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why is 4chan right wing now and left before?

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Why is new 4chan right wing when old 4chan was so leftwing?
Is it just that as more people from other parts of the internet (reddit, twitter, facebook, etc) come here the real 4chan identity gets distorted?
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>>132476032
>t. 54% white mongrel
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>>132476032

> Why is new 4chan right wing when old 4chan was so leftwing?

Less right-wing and more libertarian. Also many of these guys are fat unemployed virgins.

The most rational explanation is a lot of them are now in their 20's and they haven't had sex and they've seen brown/black men with white women and it PISSES them off because they can't even get a white woman.
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>>132476032
Most free speech forums eventually become "rightwing" like here, 2ch and voat
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>>132476528

>voat
Dude voat is just nigger this sand nigger that nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger, with a side of spic.

More hate speech than free speech, which I guess is also free speech.
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>>132476032
4chan was never leftwing, it was just a bunch of edgy teens spamming the word nigger. It just so happened that they reached adulthood and began forming concrete political thought
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>>132476032
Just the pendulum swing, I would say 4chan was anarchist before. I think we will see a shift away from the right wing stuff soon, people are getting sick of it now
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>>132476032
>spreading the idea that 4chan was 'leftwing'

Nice try, shill. 4chan was extremely reactionary and dissident even in its original manifestation. At its least extreme, it was calling people niggers and trolling online sites with swastikas, etc.

It wasn't until the forces of our modern age expelled forth with vitriol and resentment for anything of that ilk that it was forced to become politicised, and eventually radicalised itself.
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>>132476868
Nope. 4chan is going to go NAZBOL
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>>132476032
>Why is new 4chan right wing when old 4chan was so leftwing?
I've been here since around 2006 and it was never really "left wing", there were anti-jewish anti-black threads on /b/ 24/7.
I think it's just that everyone is contrarian.
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>>132476528
>Most free speech forums eventually become "rightwing"

In anonymous boards like here this happens because at the beginning its fun to spam 'nigger' etc. Then some retards take the shitposting seriously and we end up with real unironic nazis posting who have no real idea of the culture of boards like this
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>>132476817
>concrete thought
HAH
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>>132476619
This, definitely this...
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>>132476032

Because it is becoming harder and harder to close your eyes to the reality of white genocide and the superiority of white communities.

How many trucks of peace will it take to make you right wing? They will keep coming.
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It was liberal/libertarian under Bush, which is not the same as 'left wing'. Under Obama it built out into right wing in response to an expansion of the left wing.
Its unlikely 4chan will swing back to being liberal under Trump because every other social space is comprised adequately of entrenched leftist that the counter culture must orient against them.
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Being left wing is the norm for young people, and this board is anti-normie.
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>>132476339

That's not true. They just needs to realize realistic expectations in a mate.

Or better said, they are never getting a 10 and probably need to just settle for a 6 or 7 and be happy. Think about the skinny white dude in a trailer with a 400 lb. wife. That shit exists for a reason.
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>>132478885
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>>132476032
4chan never changed stance, the world did.
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>>132476032
Fuck off you brainless cunt, 4chan was never 'left wing' WE WERE FUCKING CHILDREN AND YOUNG ADULTS YOU BRAINLESS NIGGER CUNT.

/pol/ popped up long after the older members of the site had grown up, /pol/ has always been the site's 'le niggers suck' dedicated shitposting zone.

Now fuck off and kill yourself.
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4chan is an extremely reactionary place. Back when dubya was around he was hated with a passion, IIRC the old dumbfuckistan meme actually found popularity through here if it didn't outright originate here. When Obama went into office, we gradually began turning right wing, and now that Trump is in the office we're slowly seeing 4chan become more liberal again.
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>>132476141
>instantly takes the bait.

Gas yourself.
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>>132476032
Weren't we the guys who made this shit?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hAqs1G_2KU
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>>132476032
>4chan is right wing when it was left wing

Spoiler: 4chan is a melting pot, always has been. as such it has no political leaning.
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>>132479306
>now that Trump is in the office we're slowly seeing 4chan become more liberal again.
yeah, no
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>>132479717
key we're in our golden years for the next 4-8 years we're gonna stay right for almost a decade
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>>132479717

Protip: Not everyone who disagrees with you is a paid CTR/Shareblue shill.
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>>132479895
Protip: reddit != 4chan.
>>>/reddit/
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>>132479936

So not thinking any liberal has ever posted on a public website = Reddit?

Your newfaggotry is showing.
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>>132479091

>probably need to just settle for a 6 or 7

Yeah you're probably right. Couple years ago I started at this company as an IT Admin and the guy I replaced (they fired shortly after hiring me) was a fucking 30ish white libertarian that browsed 4chan all the time. Not necessarily pol if I remember but he was on 4chan often.

Dude's wife came in one day and she was an UGLY FAT limping monstrosity with a few missing teeth.

Dude even took in her 20 year old sons and her teenage daughter and her grandkid too.

That, to me, describes the average 4chan user that actually has a woman. Dude was PISSED off all the time and I could see why.

Pretty sure she was his first too.
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Necessity.
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>>132476528
2ch is the fucking cancer, the most liberal-left place on the internets
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>>132480189
Whatever you say >>>/reddit/
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>>132478885
no it wasn't you redditor

this place has always been HDNW
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because were the good guys: this truly is a war between good and evil (evil: anything that isn't functional or effective in the long-term)

And more importantly, we haven't consumed the 'morality koolaid' which summarizes and edits facts in order to appease the emotions.

We actually care about discovering truth and punishing evil. That requires flexibility on all other matters
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>>132476979
This
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>>132476032
Yes, 4chan was so left-wing that moot deleted /new/ for being too nazi. Fuck off shill.
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No!!!!!

Its because /pol is a voice against tyranny. The real tyranny is the left at the moment so when people opose it, it opens new perspective to other politics. If the real tyranny right now was right wing then the chances would be that /pol would be left wing. The fact is, we are in a texhnological revolution and the internet has changed everything. Every civilisation that has existed has had secret societies that oppose the hagenomy - and this is HEALTHY for society, to queation itself. This is what /pol is today, people that try to understand what the eliete dont want you to understand. Usac newton for example was into alcamy, which was illegal, various painter disected humans, which was illegal. /pol right now is questioning politics, which is illegal. That is all it is, like jaques fresco said "everyone is a victim of culture" and we are reacting to out surroundings right now by questioning.
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>>132476032
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4chan has always been a safe haven for free speech; it became right wing as the SJW shit took flight.
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4chan was never "left wing" it's just that Neocons were shitting on vidyagaems. So the site (which at the time was mostly made up of teenagers, including it's founder) took particular offence to what was called "the right wing" which was really just a group of centerish authoritarians.
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You know how they say, young and conservative means you have no heart.
Old and liberal means you have no brain.
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>>132476032
Contrarianism. 4chan bases its identity in negating current trends.

If normies do x we must do - x
If reddit dislikes something we must love it.

And so on.
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>>132476032
>Why is new 4chan right wing when old 4chan was so leftwing?
Have you watched the news at all over the last decade?
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>>132476817
My thoughts exactly.
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>>132476032
>pigeonholing all 4chan users

Fuck you ameritard. This black and white think is cancer. you don't belong here. people can think whatever they want. Don't like it? then fuck off
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>>132476032
It's pretty ironic that a website with very little moderation overwhelmingly supports the idea of a strong government (fascism)
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>>132476032
Because fuck the moral majority and wars before, and fuck SJWs, feminists, mass unchecked immigration, white privilege, safe spaces, trigger warnings.... now.
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>>132476032

It's not 4chan that changed. Leftards turned into fucking idiots at some point and all logic left them.
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>>132476032
4chan grew up.
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>>132476032
leftwing declared 4chan demo the enemy
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>>132476032
It's not 4chan that moved right but the left that moved further left
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>>132476339
Go back to /b/
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>>132476032
Shut the fuck up you newfaggot R*dditurd, stop pretending you know jack shit about 4chan when you just blew in last election cycle.
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4chan has always been Libertarian tbqh.
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contrarianism and gamergate
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>>132476032

pol was always right wing.

leftists are shills that come from reddit to try and provoke polacks
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>>132476032
Because the position on the political scale of how far "left" 4chan was wasn't that far left. It seemed to be a fairly centrist position, as most people are in general. Under Bush, opposing the war in the middle east was deemed a leftist position since the was the right that started the war.

This changed when governments and policies not only reached that centrist position on the scale, but went flying past it, further and further left at breakneck speed.

4chan, as did most people, saw this and started to question the new things that were coming up, like unfettered immigration, baseless accusations of racism, and the victim hierarchy that is completely antithetical to any ideal of freedom and equality.

As people started to look into these things they began to have a more fundamental understanding of how things worked, but when they brought it up they were dismissed as racist or nazi. People dug deeper and started finding more of the truth behind the "right leaning" positions and started to recognize the lies that were coming from the left.

One of the big differences, though, between the time that 4chan seemed more left and now, when it seems more right, is that the current left is doubling down like never before. While people may not like fairly right leaning positions, they tend to be fairly open for discussion and debate. The left are not, and instead of any form of debate, screams of racism and sexism have ramped up to the point where if a leftist has to admit that something is not racist/sexist/whatever, they have no way of defending their position.

I personally don't think that 4chan was ever anything more than "rebellious youth" left wing. Being left was edgy and cool, but they never really put much stock into the actual beliefs.
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>>132476032
Current /pol/ is /new/-lite you retard.
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>>132476141
I think you mean 33%
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>>132480442
Stormniggers have always been around, but it doesn't mean its the only thing around.
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>>132480711
>checked

Also, nice flag.
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>>132482212
33% i think you mean 10%

10%? wait i think it was .10%
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>>132476032
>old 4chan was so leftwing
here we go. redditors trying to rewrite history.

old 4chan was libertarian and as leftists turned more rabid 4chan turned more authoritative in response.
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>>132476032
207 oldish fag here, was totally on the 'bama band wagon as a teen.

Basically we grew up and saw the left for what it was. The hardest part for most was moving toward Trump and realizing he's just as big of a turd sandwich. Left or white it's all bullshit, but they always harness that cynicism and let you believe that this time will be different.
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>>132482156
I like this post.
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>>132476032
4chan is edgy.

You know things are bad when the shithole of the internet becomes conservative in order to be edgy.

However, 4chan was always anti-kike, and pro-white.
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>>132482393
>a whole .05%
Jesus, when did it drop to .001%
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>>132480602
This pretty much nails it.
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>>132482156
all of this

also the average age on 4chan has gotten older, since most kids for the last 5 years have moved on to reddit or some other website
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>>132476032
>Why is new 4chan right wing when old 4chan was so leftwing?

Back then it was a bunch of edgy teenagers who got their opinions from John Stewart and Southpark. Then you have stuff like Occupy Wallstreet, which was a popular bandwagon for edgemasters and le legion larpers to hop on (directed by Elizabeth Warren retardedness).

Most of these people matured under Dem rule and finally figured out that all the leftie tv brainwashing was bullshit. They became aware that the left are a fucking disaster.
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I used to be left leaning -- or so I thought. After the recent election and the scandal behind the DNC/Bernie + the leaked e-mails it made me start investigating news headlines a lot more.
One thing that really made me flip hard right was seeing the news misquote Trump on a consistent basis. This made me decide to take the time one day to watch a full speech from him. Prior to watching the speech I thought he was a "clown". After watching his speech in entirety I gained a tremendous amount of respect for him. I found myself agreeing with everything that he said. Afterwards -- seeing the news try to spin it in a different direction start building my mistrust for the media. I began digging deeper and deeper and researching.
The identity politics on the left also played a part. I became sick of these beta males on the left screeching and acting like morons.
After browsing /pol/ more and more I found that there was a lot of support here to be a better person. A lot of motivation to cut out degeneracy. This really hit home and I have been working hard on being a better person and ridding myself of degeneracy.
I view the left as becoming more and more degenerate by the day -- and that is something I absolutely despise.
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>>132483625
like the right is any better
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>>132476032
Tell me a time when nigger wasnt the most frequently posted word on /b/
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>>132483625
>Most of these people matured under Dem rule and finally figured out that all the leftie tv brainwashing was bullshit. They became aware that the left are a fucking disaster.

This

>Be teen during Bush years
>see countless pro-left memes on TV
>''haha right-wingers R so dumb''
>grow older during Obama years
>He doesn't fix shit
>find 4chan
>A million sourced graphs and statistics showing disturbing thruths
>All the left has done all my life is pretend these truths don't exist
>1844
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>>132479306
Those are just shills and butthurt lefties. Notice how yesterday there was very little anti trump posting. They were busy with the holiday.
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>>132480189
Fuck off
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>>132480198
Omg dude did you take a picture. Lol thats sooo funny. Wow.
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>>132484075
Good lad.

Last week I was watching the state run news channel, and they called Antifa ''right-wing extremists'' because one of them said that he's not especially interested in Islam.
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>>132476032
4chan is always anti authoritarian.

The left wing became the more totalitarian of the two. 4chan is not right wing persay its more right wing anarchy than anything nobody here supports cuckservatives. Nobody has forgotten mr inside job george bush.


Its as simple as standing against tyrants and wannabe tyrants and their hords of fucking wannabe followers.
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>>132477101
Yeah yeah, everyone except you is just dumb. Keep being a bitter, self-absorbed loser while your delusional political philosophy continues to get ripped to shreds every single day, each time more thoroughly than before.
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Top lel faggot, I bet you even wasn't here when moot was still admin. 4chan was always leaning right because of nature of this place. No upboats, no attention whores etc etc. There are plenty of infographics and posts on this topic
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>>132476032
The internet was much more pro-free speech like 10 years ago, then goons started raiding everywhere and introducing their feminazi moderation.

However the reason why it's still here is because the way anonymous imageboards work makes it impossible for them to get any following. This means that you have relative free-speech zone on this board and since leftists talking points haven't changed since the 70's, despite everything on the face of earth telling them that their bullshit doesn't work, they do very badly in discussion with rightwingers.
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>>132479306
>reactionary
Yawn

Your assessment is also wrong. There has never been more ironic nazi posting on non-/pol/ boards than there currently is right now. Just look at /v/, /tv/, or /b/. And as we all know, ironic nazi posting turns into unironic nazi posting pretty quickly.
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>>132476032
4chan as a whole has always been mostly libertarian. We want everyone else to fuck off and leave us alone.

In the past, that was a very liberal sentiment, but now it's become a right-wing sentiment. Basically, the political opinions of most of 4chan haven't changed but now we're right-wing because politics.
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>>132485039
Nazis/fascists compose the largest share of /pol/ posters. You're wrong and there's really nothing else to be said.
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Most of you posting in here are either stupid or liars. Stormfront invaded and colonized this place some years ago. It was literally a plan the supporting members devised in which they would take over a popular forum as their own.
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>>132480420
>>132484523
>LEFT WING LEFT WING HISSSSSSSSS
yeah, reactionary
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>>132476032
4chan was never leftwing you dumbfuck

back to faceberg with you
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>>132476032
because what is "left wing" has changed to a disgusting piece of shit.
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Eventually you grow up and realize how world truly is.
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> because conservatism is the new counter culture
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>>132476032
we weren't left wing
>what is trolling?
you might wanna research this topic
come back with the correct answer and i will tell you how you got trolled
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>>132476032
Ever since I came here from Reddit I've become more racist, homophobic and xenophobic. What's happening to me?
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>>132476619
>More hate speech than free speech
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>>132476032
The only left that is left went so left that everything else is right compared to that
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>>132480397
I don't think he's talking about dvach.
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>>132476032
/pol/ was never left wing you retard, maybe you remember stumbling across /b/ after your habbo hotel pool got raided and saw them celebrating obongo

Someone post the message m00t put about him shutting down /pol/ if it turns into r/stormfront again
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>>132476032
this >>132487784

mainstream now is very left, see Bernie Sanders, SJW, Late Capitalism and so on
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>>132476032
4Chan was libertarian, just look at the Ron Paul memes. We only had establishment assholes to pick from until trump.
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>>132488146
Bernie was never mainstream , the mainstream rejected the bern
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Because we were underaged edgelords and didn't know/care about politics
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>>132487088
the whole
>(((kikefront))) came and took over
front is, well, a front
for the real orchestrators of all this
thank you for pushing this psyop for us though!
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>>132488121
Even better, here's the habbo hotel raid in 2006 where we were making swastikas

>hurr 4chan was always leftwing goyim
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>>132476032

This is straight up lying ass shit. 4 chan was libertarian since the beginning and now we are against degenerate subversion
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>>132488121
>>132488512
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>>132476032
Oh look, it's this thread again.
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>>132476032
Lack of censorship leads to hate speech.
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>>132476032
more for the spurdo folder pelase
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>>132486024
>And as we all know, ironic nazi posting turns into unironic nazi posting pretty quickly.
This, this, this. Pendulum is swinging fast lads
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>>132488716
>posting pics from 2010 as proof that 4chan was always left wing
It was you chanology commies and your constant whining about "raycism" that ruined this site for fucking years, until Finns and Aussies saved it from m00ts no fun allowed-kikery.
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>>132488716
>>132488716

Oh you mean m**t the little faggot sell out. He betrayed us for some stank ass pussy which he didn't even get at the end, what a beta faggot
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>>132489199
as proof it wasnt retard
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>>132476032
4chan is mostly gamers and other outcasts. GOP was for old people who hated video games and nerd culture. Then gamergate happened and left became riddled with Social Justice Warriors. SJW are way worse than old men with conservative beliefs. Also pic related.
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>>132482156
Agree completely. Age is a big factor. People have grown up with this website, I'm willing to bet that the average age of a 4chan user in 2006 is a lot younger than in 2017. I was a big Obama fan in 2008 because I was a retarded 16 year old who knew nothing about politics and just heard about how bad Bush was for 8 years, now I'm right-wing.
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>>132488716

these guys are confused by post above... do they just see the leaf and assume a faggot?

>>132489199
>>132489354

he's proving we've always been awake o/

>I'm glad we are attracting the youth but fucking damn it these children are dumb
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>>132488716
Ah, i just saw the leaf and the screencap and assumed it to be Trudeau hard at work again. Sorry senpaitachi, have a blast from the past.
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>>132487972
>More hate speech than free speech

Why did you cut out the rest of the quote?

>More hate speech than free speech, which I guess is also free speech.
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>>132482616
everybody alt/politics finds there way to 4chan and here if they are in any way independent and Internet savvy.
t. bernout who voted for Trump
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>>132476032
I've been on 4chan since 2005. Back then I was largely apolitical but leaned towards libertarian. Then I saw our culture was being engineered against white males specifically but whites generally as well and I became concerned for the world my children would inherit. The only tolerable non-whites are East Asians and only in limited number.

I don't know why you brainlets pursue this strategy. It won't work. The average age on /pol/ is somewhere in the late 20's. It's not a persuasive argument in the slightest.
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>>132476032
>old 4chan was left wing
>all the newfags itt

/pol/ was always libertarian right leaning kys.
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>>132476032
> old 4chan was leftwing
Not in the marxist fashion matey, the world was a calmer sea which allowed for more flexibility aka libertarianism
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>>132491656
>/pol/ was always
>he wasn't here long enough to have shitposted in /news/
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>>132476934
So you admit nazis are right wing
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>>132477101
This, us intellectuals understand that blacks was kangs and whites ruined everything.
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>>132476032
Left wing was counter culture before. Now anything right of extreme left/progressivism is the new counter culture.
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>>132487088
>Stormfront invaded and colonized this place some years ago.
That meme collage was bogus. You should have actually followed some of the links.
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>>132476032
>Why is new 4chan right wing when old 4chan was so leftwing?
>Is it just that as more people from other parts of the internet (reddit, twitter, facebook, etc) come here the real 4chan identity gets distorted?

Given enough time, free forum will ultimately become rightwing, since left-wing rely on propaganda.
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4chan becomes whatever is contrarian at the time.If the world becomes right wing,4chan will go /leftypol/,mark my words
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>>132476032

Idealism of youth
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>>132487088
Someone got the SA screencap for this fag?
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>>132485374
>while your delusional political philosophy

What philosophy friend, I didn't say anything about that
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>>132476934
>it was calling people niggers and trolling online sites with swastikas, etc.

4chan used to also troll nazis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JOm882U774
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>>132496324
>>132496742
4chan was egoist, do I have to remind us all of "for the lulz" however the mudkips and other cringey things I laughed at now have changed into swastikas and holocaust denial which I unironically follow
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>>132480602
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4chan used to be so much fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egV5x34g1cI
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>>132496742
>Hal Turner
>not Jewish controlled opposition
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>>132497778
It was actually found out that he was a FBI informant because of this, his site was hacked and emails were found
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Even from the the very beginning, before /pol/ was /new/, when it was /n/, the nascent /pol/ was already here.
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>>132476032
you must be new here
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>>132476032
>4chan was left wing, rly, guies
Fuck off /leftypol/ faggot; 4chan has always been natsoc, and anybody with a modicum of intelligence tends to fall on the right of economic issues and the only exceptions are the Natsoc and fascist people who are still kind of libertarian on economic issues but are willing to take a slightly more authoritarian stance to protect the citizens from the Jews.
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>>132498321
>4chan has always been natsoc
hahahahaha fuck you
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>>132476979
Bolsheviks are faggots and should be executed.
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>>132476032
false dichotomy
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>>132476339
>all those roastie red flags

What's it like knowing your only use to anyone is your holes?
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The younger generation is much more right wing than the older generation that grew out of 4chan.
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>>132476032
>so leftwing
never happened
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>>132476032
I'm an "independent" or a "libertarian" - not right wing, not left wing, a bit of both. I like guns, weed, people having to insure their vehicles, Id love to see a government that truly embraces personal freedoms instead of picking and choosing based on kickbacks from corporations instead of science and public opinion. There's a trend happening here,sure, but that's young /pol/ users using this board like my brother did Eminem. People take this place too seriously sometimes. We have our days.
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>>132476528
>voat
You mean the site created by redditors pissed off the reddit was run by liberal sjws?
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>>132476032
>the old 4chan was leftwing
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Where? On /b/? /pol/ was always right-leaning just like today
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>>132477101
>he thinks /pol/ was ever satire
Wow, you people never learn
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>>132499333
Its satire for the non-retards, you can believe whatever you want
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>>132476032

The same ideology has been present continuously, but what was considered left-wing in 2008 is considered alt-right now.
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>>132476032
It's the new counterculture, after boss nigger took over.

>>132476141
Fuck off wop, half of your country is African.
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>>132499528
Nobody cares dumbass, the fact that you thought it was satire and contributed to it thinking it was has helped the fascist/Nazi agenda tremendously.

Thanks for "ironically" hating niggers, friend!
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>>132476032
Occupy wall street was a mistake and anons were underage.

Ron Paul made memes make sense.

Trump made memes come true.
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>>132476032
Maybe they saw the truth
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>>132499969
>thinking it was has helped the fascist/Nazi agenda tremendously
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>>132476339
Yeah... I don't think so.
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>>132487260
Look, I'm left-wing and whenever I hear people ass-moaning about "Drumpf XDDDDD", I get royally pissed. Half of the time, the people talking about this also demand that white people relinquish their property to black people, and that discriminatory hiring practices should be made for some nebulous "patriarchy", and/or immigrants have the manifest destiny to pour into the country. I think there's a massive difference between a left wing person and the sorts of people making these posts.
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>>132500235
Oy don't worry got, its just satire. We all (ironically) hate niggers and Jews here right?
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It's been the way it is right now since around 2010 when I found out that you never truly are able to leave this place. It was more libertarian though, I think it is very funny though how most libertarians back then were so committed, I was. But then everyone here learned that people do not deserve libertarianism at all.

>OP can't into lurking/reading old archived threads
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>>132500433
Yeah, liberals aren't left-wing. Left-of-center on a good day at best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw
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>>132500441
Yea pretty much
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>>132500579
Never said liberals, wasn't commenting on liberals, comrade.
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>>132500880
>Never said liberals, wasn't commenting on liberals
Who do you think makes those
>the people talking about this also demand that white people relinquish their property to black people, and that discriminatory hiring practices should be made for some nebulous "patriarchy"
kinds of posts?
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The right-left dichotomy is irrelevant here. 4chan is united by being anti-neoliberal and anti-globalist, and within that category there's lots of us on the left and lots on the right, lots of libertarians and lots of socialists, etc.
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>>132476032
We grew up.
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>>132501094
Do they not teach reading comprehension in Communist indoctrination camps?
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>>132479292
> WE WERE FUCKING CHILDREN
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>>132503001
The glory days
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>>132476032
4c was never left you retarded new fag.
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>>132503001
also thats a fucking pepperoni pizza idiot
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>>132501569
These 'wot hapen to 4chin, I join wen girugamesh meem it waz betr' threads will never end. You can observe that in /pol/ because apparently we are all nu-/pol/ and will be downgraded to xeno-/pol/ in 2 years by some newfag regardless if things get better or worse.
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>>132503367
t. reddit
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>>132476032
4chan was never left wing you fucknut.
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>>132476032
People grow up
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>>132479292
Now that I think of it even back in the beginnings of this we were hating niggers but loved some liberal concepts and some welfare programs.

Then we grew up to being libertarians and nazis.
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>>132503488
Oy vey PhD in shitposting refugee.
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>>132476339
>more libertarian
>less right-wing
a fucking merry tard
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>>132503754
Free education and health care for all sounded nice until the question of who the fuck pays for it appeared.
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>>132476032
4chan has always been counterculture.
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>>132476032
4chan is anti-authority.

Right used to be the authority and leftists got out of control with SJW bullshit and fascism and became the new authority, so /pol/ became right wing again.

And also because the red pill is a real deal.
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4chan used to be more libertarian/anarchist. Just a bunch of people fucking around, doing shit because it amuses them, sticking sharpies up their ass, raiding websites for kids. That sort of shit. Things weren't done for political reasons, things were done because they would have been fun at the time. The right wing rising is just a natural reaction to the kind of tone policing commie shits who shill here and say that 4chan is the scum of the earth.
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>>132476032
Any forum that does not actively censor speech inevitably becomes right wing.
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>>132484795
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>>132504203
Both wings are authoritarian, they always have been and always will.

Fuck the left/right bullshit, humans are far more nuanced that two fucking sides on a made up autistic political spectrum
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>>132504203
I cannot imagine this board turning in to a socialdemocrat, Communist board with recycled leftypol memes. The most extreme scenario would be center, center-left with a few classic liberals.
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>>132476032
>1 post by this ID
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>>132504075
Libertarians or classical liberals have historically been part the original left. Coming from the revolutionary parliament of France. The right was authoritarian traditionalists and monarchists, while the left was liberal individualists and (proto-)socialists.
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>>132476032
because in the old days it was evangelists fucking with nerdy shit that pissed anons off
since 08 it's been the left doing it
also just 4chan being a general anti-pc on all boards
and I'm not talking specifically /pol/
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>>132476032
Nice try leftypol

4chan was never ever leftwing

At worst it was neutral at the begining but that changed rapidly
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>>132476032
4chan is actually at one of the most left-wing points of its history right now.
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>>132476032
The lift/right dichotomy is a spook, anon.
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>>132476032
Even /new/ was far right.

Only chanology fags were liberal.
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>>132506091
desu
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>>132476032
Reddit is more left wing than anyone. If Reddit and Twitter were coming here we'd be super left wing.
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>>132506091
/b/ was full of nihilist anarchists back in 2007
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>>132507066
which quickly converted into libertarians, due to left wing interference in their culture as well as anti-censorship sympathies
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>>132492454
>They are all white
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>>132476032
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
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>>132476032
It's called becoming educated and aware of your surroundings.
It's called growing up.
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>>132476032
Because the left can't 'win' unless it censors its opposition. Go to any moderated forum on the internet, chances are it's left wing and heavily moderates legitimate right wing debate.

Every time a leftist comes here he gets assblasted, hard. The offline variant, btw, is political correctness. Further evidence of the left requiring some form of censorship to 'win'.
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>>132507388

>libertarians
>left wing

u wot m8
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>>132476032
Bill O'Reilly called 4chan left wing
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>>132498321
>4chan has always been natsoc
you could maybe make that case for /pol/ but 4chan as a whole? that is historical revision.
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>>132476032
Reddit. Christfags anx SJWs invaded a few years ago and turned this place into a shithole.>>132476141
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>>132476032
4chan choose anything that is edgy.
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>4chan pre-2011
>left or right

4chan just used to do things because 4chan thought it would be amusing to do, or would cause some chaos. The whole fucking deal with anonymity is that organisation is difficult and transient. Try to create groups of commies or nazis or libertarians was impossible because you wouldn't know who you were talking to at any one point. You would just know that the people you're talking to were all working towards a similar goal and when it was achieved the crowd would disperse.
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>>132476032
I wouldn't call "so left wing" but rather much more libertarian.
You can just see by entire history of 4chan transition and values it had and still has.
Boards such as /k/ and entire premise of raids and doxxes on governments and shitty corporations.

4chan always had a disdain for government regulations and interference on basic shit and cuckservative were always hated for trying to take it's vidya.
Full on liberal lefties were called normies since 2004 and being edgy to pc bullshit was high point of 4chan.
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>>132477101
the only way to enforce a "culture" is by stern fascist rules that you are never allowed to break you dumb fucking nigger and that is anathema to leftists god you are so fucking stupid
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oldfag here

4chan was never "left wing", it has always been very reactionary and anti-PC. The world has changed a lot over last 10 years, I think ISIS and the migration crisis in Europe changed the dynamic quite a bit. I think a lot of people become more 'right wing' as they get older as they get 'mugged' by reality over & over as so many of us have. Identity politics with it's demonization of straight white men has driven straight white men to develop their own brand of identity politics, if we are all just competing identity groupings then you can't just expect the largest most powerful demographic group in the country to take a backseat to their interests while everybody else forms a coalition against them. The left pushed and they went too far, they've awoken a sleeping dragon.
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>>132476032
Didn't 4chan support ron paul, who had a friend that had right-wing policies? I'm pretty sure it was.
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>>132477101
>Coming from a person who never actually reads all these links about race etc. that keep getting posted
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Because >>132513275
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>>132477257
You claiming our thoughts aren't full of rocks?
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>>132476339
Libertarian is right wing you monkey
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>>132476934
flag confirmed
newfag detected
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You new fags are fucking retarded.
4chan has always been right wing in a way that opposed neocons.

Back when something awful purged the anime subforum of people who liked echi and loli they also purged debate and discussion and gbs of most of its libertarians, objectivest and paleocons.

This mass purging around 2004 created the community that settled here. The irc channels are still filled with old Something awful trolls.

I mean the guys from SASS and MPC are still actively trolling and invented the term cuck for you.
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