Masons vs Christians

>>132448909
I mean we destroyed Tokyo much worse than those two

>>132448909
But Masonry is like 95% Christian?

>>132451330
Masonry is 100% Christian aside from believing in the divinity of Jesus Christ.

>>132451390
I meant membership numbers. Masonry has no belief system, it's just a school.

>>132451330
OP is saying that Protestants aren't real Christians.

>>132451390
>Masonry is 100% Christian
Liar. But then, Masonry follows satan and satan is the King of Liars.

>>132451330
>But Masonry is like 95% Christian?
Nope. Catholics cannot belong to it or they are ex-communicated. And any so-called Christian who belongs is no longer Christian because Masons follow satan, not Jesus.

>>132448909
>The whole world is a geopolitical battle for power between Masons and Christian
Actually, to be more truthful, would be to say between Satan and Jesus.

>>132451631
> Catholics cannot belong to it or they are ex-communicated
That's the Catholic Church's rules, not the Masons. Also it's not even true.

>>132451631
>Catholics cannot belong to it or they are ex-communicated.
Not automatically. That's why there have also been so many Catholic members.

>>132451618
Which is typical divide and conquer. Not surprising from a country split in two.

>>132448909
masonry is judaism for goys.

>>132451772
>so many Catholic members.
Source?

>>132451756
>Also it's not even true.
Yes it is. Catholics cannot belong to any secret societies. Period.

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>>132448909

The only battle is between the Devil worshipping occultists, and everyone else. All religious institutions are run by them. Also political movements. We live on the stage. They exploit us from the backstage. It's like They Live.

>>132452056
>Catholics cannot belong to any secret societies.
Freemasonry is not a secret society, it's a society with secrets. There are Catholic members.

>>132452073
>and everyone else.
well, not really everyone else, really just against Catholics, since it is the One, True Church of Jesus, and others who follow Jesus Christ. You really do not see them going after Buddhists or Hindus or pagans.

>>132452056
Jon Ruark's study is probably the latest, albeit small sample. Otherwise lots of historical chaps in France, South America, and the East Indies who are well known. Locally, a few Past Grand Masters are Catholic, and the late Grand Chaplain of Victoria was a Bishop.
There are also a few Catholic guys in my lodge, but that's just anecdotal.
>Catholics cannot belong to any secret societies
Isn't the wording that they can't belong to any society seeking to harm Catholicism? Ergo Freemasonry wouldn't be included.

>>132452151
>There are Catholic members.
Then they are not Catholic. What don't you understand? Masonary follows Lucifer/Satan. Catholics follow Jesus Christ. You cannot follow both. You cannot be a Mason and adhere to their beliefs and call yourself a Catholic. You cannot be both. Anyone who is a Freemason but calls themselves a Catholic is a liar.

>>132452326
>Masonary follows Lucifer/Satan
False. You might be thinking of the OTO.

>>132452299
See >>132452326
We all know the Catholic Church was infiltrated by commies and Jews to take it down internally. It is documented. Part of the infiltration was through Masonry. Anyone claiming to be Catholic while a Mason is a liar. You cannot be both. End of. What don';t you understand? You cannot follow the tenants of Catholicism while being a Freemason. They are polar opposites, they oppose each other. A true Catholic would never join the Mason's and thus would never be one. Hence, any "Catholic" Mason is not a real, true Catholic, they are an infiltrator to the Catholic Church to destroy it from inside.

>>132452326
>Then they are not Catholic
According to you.

>Masonary follows Lucifer/Satan
Again, according to you.

>Catholics follow Jesus Christ
They follow that guy who wants Muslims to take over Europe and kisses their feet more.

>Anyone who is a Freemason but calls themselves a Catholic is a liar.
According to you.

>>132452441
Nope. I know exactly what I speak. Masons are satanists. Stop lying. My blood relative was a 33rd Degree.

>>132452521
Oh, hi Satan. Trying to get more followers through your lies? Hint: Jesus wins in the end, so you are on the losing side. Good bye.

>>132452616
>My blood relative was a 33rd Degree.
A 33rd degree what, you lunatic?

If you're trying to get people to think Catholics are crazy, good job.

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>>132448909
w-what..

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>>132451330
>But Masonry is like 95% Christian?
No.
Masons worship this fellow in the pic. The lower degree masons don't know about it, but the more one gets higher in rank, the more this truth is revealed to them.

>>132452512
>Anyone claiming to be Catholic while a Mason is a liar.
Are you God, to be able to know a man's soul like that?
>You cannot be both
Sure you can.
>You cannot follow the tenants of Catholicism while being a Freemason.
Why not?
> They are polar opposites
Nah. Remember, Masonry was made by Catholics, after all.

>>132452616
>Masons are satanists.
Source?
I've never met a Masonic satanist. In theory, one could be, but odds are their beliefs would conflict with Masonry too much to allow them to join.

>>132452699
He's probably not Catholic.

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>>132452759
Yes Jose....these satanists are actively trying to destroy the Catholic church....apparently, they're doing a real good job...

https://youtu.be/2D5148rRIkw

>>132451330
>>132451616
>>132451390
>>132451631
Freemasonry is non-denominational, however requires belief in a all-powerful being or force.
t.32°

>>132452894
>He's probably not Catholic.
Obviously. All the best Catholics are masons.

>>132452920
absolutely haram

>>132452699
>A 33rd degree what, you lunatic?
33rd Degree Mason you idiot. You know dang well what I meant.

http://www.32nddegreemasons.org/what-is-the-scottish-rite/the-degrees/the-33rd-degree/

>>132452699
>If you're trying to get people to think Catholics are crazy, good job.
Nope. The only ones looking like fools are you lying satanic masons.

>>132452860
This. Truth.

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>>132452616
Tell me, smarty pants, what else you think you know about freemasonry? Because up to this point, all you've been was wrong.

>>132448909
catholics aren't christian, they are satanic

>>132453192
>Because up to this point, all you've been was wrong.
Typical of the profane, sadly.

>>132452860
>Masons worship this fellow in the pic.
Nope. And that's not a fellow, it's a set of balances.
>but the more one gets higher in rank, the more this truth is revealed to them.
Nope. Not how it works.

>>132453091
>33rd Degree Mason
You mean 33rd degree A&AR member, which is an admin position or honourific separate to Freemasonry.
Freemasonry has only three degrees (including the Mark Master Mason, and ne plus ultra Holy Royal Arch).

>>132452999
With that said, most members are indeed Christians.

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>>132453233
Says the loser Satan who knows Catholicism is the One, True religion that is also the only religion directly descended from Jesus Christ.

>>132453248
>>132453269

Hello Brothers.
Hope all is well in both Life & Lodge.

>>132453367
Actually both of your religions are generally fuck and are based off of solar and astronomical cults, from before the writing of the bible. Go and research it sometime. But then again, you probably like being told what to think, like a good little goy.

>>132453558
Gone dark but otherwise all is well. Hope the same for you. Brother.

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>>132453192
I know Masons are evil, they follow Lucifer aka Satan, they are out to destroy Jesus Christ and all that is good in the world. They are very secretive and partake in bizarre rituals. Basically, they contribute nothing good to society and have infiltrated the Catholic Church to help destroy it from within.

Pic related - yeah, that does not look Satanic. *eye roll

>>132453664
>partake in bizarre rituals
Oh yeah? Tell me about them!

>>132453652
>Gone dark
Oh, buy why? According to this thread, you masons are supposedly so good and kind and full of love and peace for the world. Bunch of lying satanists destroying humanity.

>>132451330
Masonry is extremely liberal (in the traditional sense) though, in ways that are obviously in violation of religious principles.

>>132453727
Nah, you can look them up yourself on youtube and the web. Plenty of documentation.

>>132453792
How could I look them up if they're so secretive?

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>>132448909
Why does he look like the emperor of fucking Nilfgaard.

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>>132453585
Thank you, Satan, for proving my point. Ladies and Gentlemen, the true satanic mason speaks. Notice how he spreads lies about Catholicism.

>>132453558
Eh, it's not bad. I volunteered to be SD again, which was fine since we had a bunch of 1st degrees coming up. But now i have to step in as JD (who does all the work in the 1st here) because we no longer have one.
Best laid plans...

>>132453664
>and have infiltrated the Catholic Church to help destroy it from within.
I thought only Jews had such a victim complex.
>Pic related - yeah, that does not look Satanic.
What looks satanic? It's just a GM with bad posture in a fairly uncomfortable looking chair.

And those rituals are all pretty well Christian.

>>132453753
It means on summer break. Because UK and USA are pansies who think it's too hot to meet in non-air con buildings during summer.

>>132453764
What ways would that be?

>>132453828
Figure it out yourself, or ask your mommy to help you.

>>132453968
Many libertarian, secular, and independence movements have been mostly operated or inspired by masons. The sorts of movements that limit the power of the church and the monarch and impose libertarian law systems. For example, just about every independence movement in any of the Americas.

>>132453991
Giving up so soon? That's no fun, """catholic""".

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>>132453968
>>and have infiltrated the Catholic Church to help destroy it from within.
>I thought only Jews had such a victim complex.
It is very well documented and they have even admitted it (hence, the documentation). It is also in the Book of Revelations in the Bible. Try using your brain sometime, it is pretty neat to do. I know researching is hard, but the results are worth the effort.

>>132453968
>What looks satanic?
Oh, I guess he is doing the U of Texas Hook 'em horns sign, right?

>>132454248
Which, funnily enough are all anti-Masonic. Like, Masonry specifically speaks against those kinds of things. George Washington should have been expelled.

>>132454298
>and they have even admitted it
Source? Because actual facts prove you wrong.
>Oh, I guess he is doing the U of Texas Hook 'em horns sign, right?
In the in line pic, yes. But that's Berlusconi. Not the GM in the chair. So pic one.

>>132451390
>>132451616
Freemasonry is Judaism, not Christianity. They follow the Qabbalah. Many Christians are in Freemason lodges, but they are useful idiots working against their own faith.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuT_4XElXOU

>>132454458
>Freemasonry is Judaism, not Christianity.
It's neither. It's Freemasonry.
>They follow the Qabbalah.
Well no. And Qabbalah isn't something you follow. That's like saying they follow the battery powered air compressor. It's something you apply, not follow.
>but they are useful idiots working against their own faith.
How so?

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>>132454422
Why do you think so many Masons have been involved in such movements, and do you know of any times when they were expelled for inspiring them? Also what is anti-masonic about those liberal principles?

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>>132453269
>Nope. And that's not a fellow, it's a set of balances.
Yeah, right, and the Church of Satan is not about Satan, it's about expresing your free will and individuality, and it's all rainbows and flowers. And the goat of mendez statue in Detroit is just an "innocent symbolic" representation.
But then this happens:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvd_MhrWp9g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVGw50hvyVY&feature=youtu.be

>Nope. Not how it works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=8UpjPzdBaGo
When a mason reaches the 33rd degree, he must do the satanic pledge.

>>132454282
>>132454422
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGOKa4KjcAY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx37l0JRTB8

https://mumbailaity.wordpress.com/2011/01/27/masons-control-the-vatican-and-the-roman-catholic-church/

http://www.all-about-the-virgin-mary.com/freemasonry-in-the-church.html

https://onepeterfive.com/bishop-schneider-freemasonry-instrument-satan-seeking-destroy-church/

https://informatiisimesaje.wordpress.com/2016/05/30/the-infiltration-of-the-catholic-church/

https://www.tanbooks.com/index.php/modern-errors/aa-1025-memoirs-of-the-communist-infiltration-into-the-church.html

Finally, Bella Dodd:
"After her defection from the Communist Party in 1949, she testified that one of her jobs, as a Communist agent, was to encourage young radicals to enter Roman Catholic Seminaries."

>>132453968
Hello brother, glad to see you're still here. Can't stick around just dropping by to say hi.

Hope everything is going well with you.

>>132454574
>It's neither. It's Freemasonry.
Freemasonry comes from a pretty simple concept. They hold masons above all, to which there is a hierarchy of all masons, Solomon, the leader of all Jews, above all.
>And Qabbalah isn't something you follow. That's like saying they follow the battery powered air compressor. It's something you apply, not follow.
Retarded. It's like saying "You don't follow this recipe, you apply it." Freemasons take it a bit further than that, since they are essentially devil worshipers just like Aleister Crowley except without all the drugs. Or maybe with the drugs in some cases, just not to the extent they become mentally non-functional.
>How so?
You can't be a true Christian and follow the Qabbalah.

>>132452894
Masonry has a deistic philosophy and believes in religious indifferentism. Earlier reply is stupid for saying they worship Satan or whatever but thw core tenets certainly oppose Catholicism's.

>>132454576
>Why do you think so many Masons have been involved in such movements
Because the people involved in such things are always joiners. They join lots of things they think might help them. Masonry is discreet, so it appeals to people wanting somewhere to hide, even if they disagree with it.
>nd do you know of any times when they were expelled for inspiring them?
Sadly, none come to mind. The only thing like it is in France, where Masonry was taken over by traitors regarding the revolution, so the loyalists pissed off and made real Grand Lodges to keep them out. That's why there are so many in France now. GLNF are the loyalists, and the GOdF comes from the traitors, and are subsequently excommunicated by other real Freemasons across the world.
Otherwise, like the the Americans, the Phillipines, the South Americans, etc, they won, and thus the GL there had to follow the new law of the land.
>Also what is anti-masonic about those liberal principles?
Masonry espouses traditionalism, conservatism, meritocracy, monarchy, and other such values. It's covered in the degrees, but too few actually listen nowadays.

>>132454638
>and the Church of Satan is not about Satan
Pretty sure it is. But that picture is Levi's Baphomet, which anyone who has read his work would know is a symbol of perfect equilibrium. Not something sinister. But idiots see horns and think "That musta be one-a them thar devil thangs!" without actually researching it.
This also applies to satanists, who are already retarded.
>When a mason reaches the 33rd degree, he must do the satanic pledge.
False. Especially since in majority of places, the A&AR is limited to Trinitarian Christians anyway. Such a "pledge" would be antithetical to the rite.

>>132454827
>It's always the fault of someone else!

>>132454830
It rather is. Same to you, bro.

>>132453967
Funny how you post a picture of Michael(Mercury) battling Satan(Saturn) and hurling him out of heaven. Which is what takes place after Sept 23, another big part of the Sun cult you follow. The book of Revelations is not an actual prophecy, it's a metaphorical book about space(heaven), the planets(Angels), and the Sun(God/Jesus).

>>132454938
>Earlier reply is stupid for saying they worship Satan
No, not stupid. It is actually very black and white. You are either with Jesus or you are with Satan. Those are your only two options in life. In other words, if it is not of God, and thus not of Jesus, then it is of Satan. God or Satan, that is all there is. Simples. Freemasons are not of Jesus, therefore they are of Satan. Call it whatever you want, but they are not of Jesus therefore they are opposite Jesus, which is Satan.

>>132454938
They have a seal of Solomon over every door of every Freemason lodge. Solomon is a man who built a temple for Moloch. It's perfectly within reason to say you are praising Satan every time a person walks through that door for the purpose of being a part of them.

>>132451330
>doesnt believe the divinity of Jesus Christ
>Christian

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>>132455187
You are so wrong and so off base. And it is called Catholicism, not "Sun Cult." If it was a pagan Sun Cult, as you claim, then no one would care, just like no one cares about Buddhists or Witches or Wiccan or Voodoo. But they certainly care about Catholicism and Christianity, which is why Satan is out to destroy it using whatever means and methods possible. So take your lame "oh, Micheal is a planet not an Archangel" drivel elsewhere.

>>132454870
>They hold masons above all
Naw, we're supposed to hold everyone equally. As in, everyone should be given equal opportunity.
>Solomon, the leader of all Jews, above all
Nah, not so much. He's just there for context. Easily lifted out, since we don't even use much around him, beyond the temple. That's why the degrees were able to be changed so easily to other cathedrals and keep everything else the same.
>It's like saying "You don't follow this recipe, you apply it."
That's a semantic issue. Following a recipe is different to following a prophet.
> since they are essentially devil worshipers
Source?
>You can't be a true Christian and follow the Qabbalah.
Why not? Do you even know what Qabbalah is?

>>132454938
>Masonry has a deistic philosophy and believes in religious indifferentism
False on both counts. Masonry imposes no religious beliefs. It's entirely non-sectarian.

>>132455325
>Tables don't believe in the Divinity of Christ

>>132455242
>Freemasons are not of Jesus
You might want to read the Bible.

>>132455268
>They have a seal of Solomon over every door of every Freemason lodge.
Not every. And it only became the Seal of Solomon fairly recently.

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>>132455626
>You might want to read the Bible.
Where in the Bible are Freemason's mentioned? Oh, you mean where Lucifer/Satan is mentioned in the Bible? Yes, proves my point. Mason's are not of Jesus. If I am wrong, please post relevant scripture in the Bible that relates to being a Freemason and how Jesus is o.k. with that. Thanks!

>>132455502
>And it is called Catholicism
Catholic means "universal", bro. It's really just called "The Church", with "Roman" and "Catholic" being added later.

>>132455880
>Where in the Bible are Freemason's mentioned?
It isn't. But you clearly either doubt Christ, or didn't read the part about Salvation.
> please post relevant scripture in the Bible that relates to being a Freemason and how Jesus is o.k. with that.
I'll wait until you post the passage where He says, "and btw, don't join together in My Name in a lodge or anything."

>>132455626
Your own beliefs about your cult are contradicted by their very behaviors. There's no actual equality within Masonry, since much of what they discuss even if at parts innocuous are subject to shadow. Nothing that is good is kept out of the light. There is also the fact that within many Mason lodges they expect ethnic-homogeneity. While I don't have a principle problem with that, it goes against the equal opportunity concept.

It's also false that Masonry imposes no religious beliefs, in order for one to even join they must explicitly state they believe in a God, whatever purpose that leads to. In the case of Freemasonry, they will corrupt you over time as you begin to move up through the orders.

For anybody well versed in symbolism it is obvious that there are countless homages to Satan(Saturn) within Freemason halls, things that no good Christian would knowingly endorse.

>>132455502
>And it is called Catholicism, not "Sun Cult." If it was a pagan Sun Cult, as you claim, then no one would care, just like no one cares about Buddhists or Witches or Wiccan or Voodoo.

I know what it's called, but I'm telling you what it is. No one attacks Buddhism because it doesn't turn people into babbling schizophrenics, like yourself, who believe in magic, satan, and w/e fairy tale bs. Read to me revelations 12 and I will show you that it is nothing more than a jumble of words for an astronomical movement of the planets and stars in the heavens. It has nothing to do with actual angels or an actual satan. It's all based off of astronomical cults, whose history goes back, way beyond Catholicism or Christianity.

>>132456124
>There's no actual equality within Masonry
How so? We're all equal. All have equal say, equal opportunity, equal voting right, and so on.
>Nothing that is good is kept out of the light.
It isn't kept out of the light. But okay, better post your bank details, and every secret and item of trust you might have.
> While I don't have a principle problem with that, it goes against the equal opportunity concept.
Not so much. Equality of opportunity. Doesn't mean everyone is suitable to join (no women, no atheists, no half-wits, etc.), but that we give everyone equal chance in life. If they fail that, it's their own issue.
> in order for one to even join they must explicitly state they believe in a God
Exactly. We don't have one for you. You have to have your own belief, and we don't discuss it.
>whatever purpose that leads to
An atheist can't be considered to be trustworthy, or to have a full understanding of the world. Used to be that you had to be Trinitarian Christian to join, but now it's just a generic belief in an Almighty. Except in Scandinavian Rite, where you must be Baptised.
>they will corrupt you over time as you begin to move up through the orders.
Yea? How?
>For anybody well versed in symbolism it is obvious that there are countless homages to Satan(Saturn) within Freemason halls,
Not so much. People have invented "Saturn" symbols recently, but that doesn't make them so. Nor does it make Saturn "satan".

>>132454870
shit up you know nothing
reveal the true meaning of 33 or go away

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>>132448909
What kind of evil genius managed to villainize fraternalism? How can such a vast amount of people oppose their own interests?

>>132456943
>>>132448909 (OP)
>What kind of evil genius managed to villainize fraternalism? How can such a vast amount of people oppose their own interests?

They aren't afraid of God.

Good thread, basically if you want to look at all religions including Satanism, Luciferianism/Freemasonry from a purely atheistic, scientific analysis, those religions are about uplifting the individual above humanity, replacement of humility and subservience to God(natural order) with that of man becoming illuminated with knowledge and becoming God, manipulating all of the Earth, and the rest of humankind as subjects to these human "Gods". However that doesn't mean these people have the intent to do good for everyone else, it is purely materialistic, unspiritual perception of people, they are no different than the dirt or mountains and they reshape as if they were all the same.

Rituals and sacrifices are carried out because of their effect on training the brain and shaping thought processes towards that of sociopathy, and psychopathy, who only regard their own selfish gain in the world. They are desensitized to murder, torture, genocide, they do not regard people with the concept of rights, every rule, law, reality is a social construct to be replaced by another as needed to succeed in their goals.

This is one of the best videos I've seen that goes into the subject
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14IloO6H7_M

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>>132456662
33 is supposed to represent the highest level of consciousness a person could strive for, though it has many reasons for this depiction through numerology of ancient cultures.
>>132456600
>It isn't kept out of the light.
Then why do you need to advance in orders of submission to them before they unveil their "mystical knowledge"
>but that we give everyone equal chance in life. If they fail that, it's their own issue.
Except they really don't. Masons inherently view themselves above others. Even such sayings as Nosce te Ipsum as Freemasons love to recant isn't something they truly believe. To "know oneself" you create a paradigm that you become stuck in, their actions, through 'advancing in orders of consciousness' expresses the contrary by proving they had not previously known themselves altogether.
>An atheist can't be considered to be trustworthy
So much for equality
>Yea? How?
By continuing to expose you bit by bit to subversive forces in the Qabbalah.
>People have invented "Saturn" symbols recently
No, sweetie. This shit has existed for thousands of years, the Qabbalah is the most recent extension of these beliefs and practices and thats been around for hundreds of years.

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>>132454298
>two in the pink one in the stink
>masonic sign language
kek

Let me also point out that if you look on the archive for ANY Freemason thread on /pol/ that Australian shill is in all of them. You'll see him in EVERY Freemason thread ever created trying to sell his devil worship to this board.

He's like IDF with how responsive he is to making sure nobody thinks they are the subversive magic kikes they are.

>>132457473
>recant
I mean simply 'cant'
Still having my coffee.

Did Truman kill FDR the same way LBJ killed Kennedy? Truman comes off as this "nice guy" and the economy immediately improved, so what kind of deals went on behind the scenes? Then Truman creates the CIA and "regrets it".

What is going on with Truman? What is his story?

>>132457473
>Then why do you need to advance in orders of submission to them before they unveil their "mystical knowledge"
We don't. I mean, first of all, we have no mystical knowledge to unveil. What we do have is a series of tools, which you can find anywhere.
>Masons inherently view themselves above others.
Nope. That would be anti-Masonic.
> isn't something they truly believe.
It isn't? Since when?
> To "know oneself" you create a paradigm that you become stuck in, their actions, through 'advancing in orders of consciousness' expresses the contrary by proving they had not previously known themselves altogether.
Ironically, you're overthinking it.
>So much for equality
Equality of opportunity. We all know people themselves aren't equal. Same way you wouldn't trust a fish to climb operate a tractor, but you'd let them do what they can do.
>By continuing to expose you bit by bit to subversive forces in the Qabbalah.
Qabbalah isn't "subversive", though. And you're really not exposed to it in Masonry. You have to join other stuff if you want to study with it in such an environment.
>This shit has existed for thousands of years
Lol.
> the Qabbalah is the most recent extension of these beliefs and practices and thats been around for hundreds of years.
So basically you don't really get what Qabbalah is?

>>132457865
>You'll see him in EVERY Freemason thread ever created trying to sell his devil worship to this board.
Just like the USA (((anti-Masonry))) shill.

>>132458027
>I mean, first of all, we have no mystical knowledge to unveil.
Funny, then, why is the greatest mystery to Masons what was beneath Solomon's temple? It's because it was a shrine to Moloch, a force in the background through all Masonic teachings, as is above their doors.
>Nope. That would be anti-Masonic.
You act like Masons actually have any real virtues while they worship Satan. Cute.
>Equality of opportunity.
>We all know people themselves aren't equal
Then why can't a woman come and join tomorrow and become a Mason. The "virtues" of Masonry are bullshit from start-to-finish. You're literal drones rehashing a statement you don't actually practice because transparency isn't something devil worshipers believe in.
>Qabbalah isn't "subversive", though.
I'll be the judge of that.
It is.
>So basically you don't really get what Qabbalah is?
Clearly you don't, given that ancient beliefs are tied in to the Qabbalah from the Torah, fucking retard.

Please stop shilling your Jewish Golden Dawn trash on /pol/ you fucking retarded faggot.

>anglo flags
>thread is pure LARP

Most anglo lodges are christian, but there are also non christian deist lodges, and in France a lot of non deist non christian ones.
The Vatican automatically excomuniates freemasons and has done so for decades.

>>132458448
>why is the greatest mystery to Masons what was beneath Solomon's temple?
It isn't. Have you not read any of our ceremonials? The mystery is the "Lost Secrets", which are to do with middle English building styles.
>It's because it was a shrine to Moloch
No, that was a later, different one. Pretty sure it wasn't Moloch, either.
>You act like Masons actually have any real virtues while they worship Satan.
We do, with the time saved by not actually worshiping satan.
>Then why can't a woman come and join tomorrow and become a Mason.
Official reason: Because women weren't operative stone masons.
Unspoken, but more accurate reason: Because women are bitches who can't be together without fighting. See any co-ed lodge for proof. Plus, Masonry is a school based on classical education, which is best suited for men.
> because transparency isn't something devil worshipers believe in.
It probably isn't. But Masonry is quite transparent. We publish our rituals, and our accounts are public.
>It is.
Okay. How?
>Clearly you don't,
I should know better than to argue with a five year old, but i'll keep going: What do you think Qabbalah is? Like give me a definition.
>Jewish Golden Dawn trash
Not actually in Golden Dawn. The Hermeticists or the Greeks. But they both actually seem pretty decent. Not sure why you'd disagree with it, unless you were a commie.

>>132452208
>one true church left

How come your pope says stupid ass shit? Why do you pray to icons? Bunch of idolatrous cock suckers with a chip their shoulders. Catholics are all shitskins and sissies nowadays.

>>132458977
>It isn't. Have you not read any of our ceremonials? The mystery is the "Lost Secrets", which are to do with middle English building styles.
>No, that was a later, different one. Pretty sure it wasn't Moloch, either.
It was definitely Moloch and anybody who reads into the underlying lore of Masonry and their prophet Solomon clearly reaches this conclusion.
>We do, with the time saved by not actually worshiping satan.
Oh, so you just worship satan ironically
>Unspoken, but more accurate reason:
You don't actually believe in the values you espouse. I get it, I mean I don't disagree with that actual value, I'm just calling you out on being backpedaling on your own morals you claim.
>But Masonry is quite transparent. We publish our rituals, and our accounts are public.
Wrong, the only Masonic rituals that get published are from trash lodges and we all know it. The actually exclusive, desirable lodges to join are as secretive as can be. Once again you are obfuscating the truth, when people on /pol/ are well aware most Freemason lodges are simply LARPers, like I am more than certain you are.
>Okay. How?
Magic shit is for people who never grew out of being teenage edgelords. Performing esoteric rituals and especially Jewish magic is culturally subversive in the primarily Christian west.
>What do you think Qabbalah is? Like give me a definition.
You keep getting mentally bodyslammed when I tell you that its Jewish mysticism in its simplest terms. You're a LARPing Harry Potter faggot(ironically calling others mental children) who thinks you are "unlocking tiers of consciousness" and "performing magick"

Please don't become sanctimonious to your obvious intellectual better, kid.
>LOL if u dont practice Jewish mysticism ur probably a bolshevik
Sad way to end your already borderline insane rant.

>>132458563
>The Vatican automatically excomuniates freemasons
Not automatically anymore. Has to go through the Holy See. Otherwise you'd hear of a lot more excommunications.

>>132459589
>It was definitely Moloch
Sure it wasn't Ashtoreth, Chemosh and Milcom like it says in 1 Kings 11?
>and anybody who reads into the underlying lore of Masonry and their prophet Solomon clearly reaches this conclusion.
Yea? How so? I mean, Masonry has no prophets, so that's curious. You're also giving Solomon way too much credit. HAb is our main nigga.
>You don't actually believe in the values you espouse
No, we do. You just seem to think we're bleeding heart liberals, rather than realists.
>Wrong, the only Masonic rituals that get published are from trash lodges
Lol. Are you trying to say they aren't real Scotsmen?
>Magic
Wrong already.
>You keep getting mentally bodyslammed when I tell you that its Jewish mysticism in its simplest terms.
But you keep getting it wrong? Yes, it's Judaen mysticism. But you're yet to explain why that's a problem. You're blinded by your alleged prejudices.
>who thinks you are "unlocking tiers of consciousness" and "performing magick"
No? You seem to think we do that, based on zero evidence. But neither are parts of Masonry.
>LOL if u dont practice Jewish mysticism ur probably a bolshevik
Jewish mysticism? GD are alchemists (primarily Christian, but i think the modern incarnation has changed), and the Greek ones are the fascist party.

Maybe do some actual reading before you try to argue with people in the know?

>>132460181
>Yes, it's Judaen mysticism. But you're yet to explain why that's a problem.
If you don't see why that's a problem then, as if it wasn't already abundantly obvious, you probably don't belong on /pol/ you devil worshiping kike shill.

>>132460368
Protip: Ancient Judaens =/= modern talmudist kikes
And i suspect you've never heard, or been capable of understanding the saying, "The mark of an educated mind is to be able to entertain an idea without needing to accept it."

>>132454458
Not an argument. I am a mason in scottish rite. you cant claim they work against themselves as an argument because its an attempt to discount all the christians in the lodge. (its a christian organization)

>>132460181
>people in the know?
Nice LARP fag. You admit to following the Jewish beliefs that both Jesus and Moses warned against

Solomon, under the influence of his idolatrous wives, built high places for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, and for Milcom, the abomination of the children of Ammon. See CHEMOSH. Because of this apostasy it was intimated by the prophet Ahijah, that the kingdom was to be rent out of the hand of Solomon, and ten tribes given to Jeroboam (1 Kings 11:31-33). These high places survived to the time of Josiah, who, among his other works of religious reformation, destroyed and defiled them, filling their places with the bones of men (2 Kings 23:12-14). Molech-worship had evidently received a great impulse from Ahaz, who, like Ahab of Israel, was a supporter of foreign religions (2 Kings 16:12). He also "made his son to pass through the fire, according to the abominations of the nations, whom Yahweh cast out from before the children of Israel" (2 Kings 16:3). His grandson Manasseh, so far from following in the footsteps of his father Hezekiah, who had made great reforms in the worship, reared altars for Baal, and besides other abominations which he practiced, made his son to pass through the fire (2 Kings 21:6)

>>132460772
>You admit to following
Again, no. Lrn2read, half-wit.
And why did you post the stuff i already linked? Like, i'm just confused there.

>>132460538
>I just worship Satan ironically
Please stop claiming to be Christian.

Holy shit the christfag triggering in this thread.

I think its because the know freemasons are actually functional as a group, and that their church is not.

What man wouldnt be envious of a kickass club for men only that get together and help each other and their community succeed....if he were not allowed to participate?

Freemasons were always spectacular neighbors and contributors in my town growing up and as a young adult. Meanwhile the christfags secluded themselves and kept all of their "community support" directed towards their own church group.

Freemasons always struck me as more christian than christians.

>>132460877
You're misinterpreting it like a subversive kike would.(surely though that's just a coincidence though, with your professed belief in Jewish practice)

>>132460936
I'm not Christian. I just know that Freemasonry is an evil path.

>>132460897
>I can't actually argue against him, so i'll claim he worships satan, even if i look retarded doing so

>>132460995
>You're misinterpreting it
In genuine curiousity, how? I know Solomon did bad shit. That's why i linked the Book of Kings.
>your professed belief in Jewish practice
None?

>>132460936
>Freemasons always struck me as more christian than christians.
Some, but not all.

I would also like to remind christcucks that their make believe book is not a source that is respected or considered valid by non-christcucks.

Quoting mythology to support your non-argument does not win you any points with non-christcucks.

>>132461138
You carry Solomons Seal above your doors. Go on, post your lodge again as you have in the past.

>>132457473
>33 is supposed to represent the highest level of consciousness a person could strive for, though it has many reasons for this depiction through numerology of ancient cultures.
ah, so they havent let you in on it yet, still spouting the lower talking point. too bad

Freemasonry was originally redpilled but it's been completely infiltrated by black lodgers who want to enslave humanity

Just thought I'd share this:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU9HL0bQwutSClRl7U-PujQ/videos

If anyone knows of more ritual videos like this, post them here.

>>132461171
id like to remind you that each cell has a set of organs
no organ can be removed without breaking everything

>>132461347
A very Jewish thing to desire

>>132461231
>You carry Solomons Seal above your doors.
Some places have the double triangle, yes. Like many Christian buildings. But you really seem to think it's older than it is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_David#History_of_Jewish_usage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_of_Solomon
>Go on, post your lodge again as you have in the past.
I haven't, actually. But mine doesn't have the double triangle anywhere. Can't actually think of any in my state with it beyond our HRA furnishings.

>>132448909
it's hilarious how every time someone mentions the freemasons there are these low level shitters that come out in full force to defend them and make excuses for them
>i'm a mason w-we're all brothers
>it's not a religion i s-swear
>i-it's just about perfecting yourself
you will never get accepted into those masonic bodies that only have high level masons so shut the fuck up, you don't have an idea what you're talking about.
90% of you have joined because it's good for business, of the remaining 10% one half are those that are obsessed with mysticism and shit and so they wanted to join desperately and the other half are people whose family members are mason and so they wanted to continue the tradition (they were probably initiated in the demolay order/job's daughters as kids).

>>132455325
Look up Thomas Jefferson. Divinity of Christ is a relatively recent invention. Early Christian theologians didn't think that

>>132461461
Star of David is never mentioned in the Old Testament. The Star of Remphan who Masons worship is.

S.E. Melb. checking in.

'Evening fellas.

>>132457364

Not all secret societies were evil, neither were the Masons originally. Occult truth is objective, natural law doesn't change, what you do with this knowledge is what matters. There have been different reasons for keeping occult knowledge hidden from the masses, one is that you could be killed by ignorant people for heresy/ect, another is to keep the masses dumb and easily manipulated which is what has been going on for ages.

>>132461428
Inside the Freemasons on Sky1 (recent documentary) shows some ceremonies.

Sadly the eps keep getting taken off youtube. DVDs out now, though, so should be a rip/torrent somewhere.

>>132461999
>Star of David is never mentioned in the Old Testament.
Agreed.
>The Star of Remphan
Isn't that eight pointed?
>Masons worship
False.

>>132462053
>Melb
My sympathies. Are you in the Blue Lounge, though? Haven't heard any objective comments on it.

>>132451390
>100% Christian aside from believing in the divinity of Jesus Christ.
Bad news for you (or good).

>>132452151
>Freemasonry is not a secret society, it's a society with secrets.
i always laugh when i see this. you people are so brainwashed, you're the worse cult on planet earth.

>>132451330
Nope. You get auto excommunicated from the catholic church if you're a free mason

>>132451390
So not christian then

>>132462619
You better go tell all those Catholic members who still take Mass, then. Especially all the priests and Bishops, since apparently they don't know as much as you.

>>132462605
>i always laugh when i see this
Because it's a stupid saying, despite being true?

>>132462258
Masons are liberal deists who had been used to weaken Christian nations from the inside. They have a strong relationship of interests with the Jews (who often form part of the lodge). They are useful fools, because as we know the greatest fear of them are the pogroms.

Its main enemy is the Catholic Church.

just a friendly reminder to all freegoys that your cult is based on a fallacy, and here's why: you say that you don't want to share your knowledge with the profane BUT the only reason the profane are profane is because they don't have access to the knowledge.
the ONLY reason why you do this is because it gives you a sense of elitism and power over the uninitiated. you are the one-eyed man in the land of the blind and you wouldn't want it any other way.

>>132463104
>you say that you don't want to share your knowledge with the profane
We don't say that, though. We're happy to share it with everyone, and are encouraged so to do. The ceremonies are just for the sake of keeping structure and order in learning.

>>132462742
It's hard to pin-down freemasons because there are so many devil worshiping practices all over the place. Some are more secretive than others, but by its very definition all freemasons are in a secret society. They may be open about who they are, but they are private about what they do(worship satan)
se·cret so·ci·e·ty
ˈsēkrit səˈsīədē/
noun
an organization whose members are sworn to secrecy about its activities.

>>132463206
>but by its very definition all freemasons are in a secret society.
Clearly not. By definition. A secret society would be secret. Freemasonry advertises and publishes. Sorry if the truth doesn't match up to what you want it to be.
>an organization whose members are sworn to secrecy about its activities.
So again, not Freemasonry.

>>132463074
The Catholic Church has kept humanity in the dark and in bondage, absolutely they're an enemy, the founders of America wanted freedom from the sick ways of old world authoritarianism. The Catholic church would crucify Christ again

>>132463104
like I said in an earlier post, that's not always the reason but it definitely is one for dark occultists who enjoy keeping humanity asleep. Historically you could be killed by ignorant people for telling the truth to the wrong person

>>132463194
>>132463104

Also we live in an era were the truth is freely accessible to virtually everyone at their fingertips, most aren't looking unfortunately

>>132463104
you can try to weasel your way around that by saying how your members have used that knowledge to contribute to humanity as a whole through politics and other venues but that still doesn't change the fact that you're jealously guarding it from everyone else because if everyone else got access to it you can say bye bye to your elitism. it's the same argument bernays used to justify his elitist ideology "people are dumb therefore there needs to be an upper class of rich and powerful to guide them". of course the people are dumb, it's because they get shoved into government schools in their early childhood, schools that don't teach them how to think, but only force them to memorize stuff and spit it out when it's grading time. meanwhile the ultra-rich are sending their children to elite school that have a completely different curriculum in comparison to government school. a curriculum that actually teaches them useful stuff because the parents demand it. those kids are trained to take over their parent's business and rule over the rest of us.
and don't kid yourself into thinking that you're an elitist just because you're a freegoy. you're just an average doctor/businessman/whatever that will never get accepted into the above mentioned higher masonic bodies and you will never have enough money to send your kids to elite schools. i bet most of your kids go to government schools.

>>132463322
Did you even read the definition you fucking retard? There are plenty of secret societies that are known about and the membership is revealed but they remain secret societies because the practice of what they do is kept out of public sphere.

You're just fucking retarded.
Here's a part of Masonic Constitution which specifically outlines you keep secret things from "uninitiated." Thus Freemasons meets the very criteria for "secret society"
>4. BEHAVIOR in presence of Strangers NOT MASONS.

You shall be cautious in your Words and Carriage, that the most penetrating Stranger shall not be able to discover or find out what is not proper to be intimated, and sometimes you shall divert a Discourse, and manage it prudently for the Honour of the worshipful Fraternity.
Mongoloid fucktard.

>>132462317
Occasionally lounged.
Occasionally lounging.
Between it all, always busy.

Sympathies appreciated however, Melb is somewhat of a disaster.
Looking forward to spring.

Wouldn't and couldn't comment objectively either way.

>>132451390

No it isnt. It's literally Luciferian. Do you not even know their doctrine?

>Masons worship the devil and infiltrate and subvert good organizations
>muh jesuits dindu nuffin they wuz good boys

>>132463853
>because if everyone else got access to it you can say bye bye to your elitism.
Everyone CAN access it, though. 99% of our ceremonies are from the Bible. But people don't read it any more.

>>132463877
>Did you even read the definition you fucking retard?
Clearly i did.
>There are plenty of secret societies that are known about and the membership is revealed but they remain secret societies because the practice of what they do is kept out of public sphere.
Perhaps, but by your definitions, Masonry isn't one of them. I mean shit, UGLE just released a five part documentary series for the 300th. Pretty public sphere there, bro.
>You shall be cautious in your Words and Carriage, that the most penetrating Stranger shall not be able to discover or find out what is not proper to be intimated, and sometimes you shall divert a Discourse, and manage it prudently for the Honour of the worshipful Fraternity.
Might want to check the context. That's about the secrets (pass words, tokens, signs), and preserving your obligation. You're free to find out the secrets, but it's on the initiated to not be violating their promises. At most, you could include the lawful secrets of other members.

But nice try.

>>132463909
Fair enough. We're actually getting a BLSC branch here. Seems pointless to me, but guys in Melbourne and Ontario seem to like it.

>My son, heretofore you have been taught to act the dissembler: among Roman Catholics to be a Roman Catholic, and to be a spy even among your own brethren; to believe no man, to trust no man. Among the Reformers, to be a reformer; among the Huguenots, to be a Huguenot; among the Calvinists, to be a Calvinist; among other Protestants, generally to be a Protestant, and obtaining their confidence, to seek even to preach from their pulpits, and to denounce with all the vehemence in your nature our Holy Religion and the Pope; and even to descend so low as to become a Jew among Jews, that you might be enabled to gather together all information for the benefit of your Order as a faithful soldier of the Pope.

>You have been taught to insidiously plant the seeds of jealousy and hatred between communities, provinces, states that were at peace, and incite them to deeds of blood, involving them in war with each other, and to create revolutions and civil wars in countries that were independent and prosperous, cultivating the arts and the sciences and enjoying the blessings of peace. To take sides with the combatants and to act secretly with your brother Jesuit, who might be engaged on the other side, but openly opposed to that with which you might be connected, only that the Church might be the gainer in the end, in the conditions fixed in the treaties for peace and that the end justifies the means.

>You have been taught your duty as a spy, to gather all statistics, facts and information in your power from every source; to ingratiate yourself into the confidence of the family circle of Protestants and heretics of every class and character, as well as that of the merchant, the banker, the lawyer, among the schools and universities, in parliaments and legislatures, and the judiciaries and councils of state, and to be all things to all men, for the Pope's sake, whose servants we are unto death.

>>132464282
>Everyone CAN access it, though. 99% of our ceremonies are from the Bible. But people don't read it any more.
There is no shortage of literature that is only available to members of Mason lodges. You're being purposefully deceitful and you know it, like a kike Mason would.

>>132463592
>The Catholic Church has kept humanity in the dark and in bondage, absolutely they're an enemy, the founders of America wanted freedom from the sick ways of old world authoritarianism.

https://www.catholic.com/tract/the-galileo-controversy

Maybe reading, apart from spreading lies, would be fine for you.

>>132464891
>There is no shortage of literature that is only available to members of Mason lodges
Such as? Because every Masonic library is open to the public, bro.

>>132464891
Are you really interested in the literature, go grab a link for apes library from /x/. He has more than enough. I am reading a copy of morals and dogma at the moment, which was written by pike. It is not as interesting as one would expect.

From what I can tell so far Freemasonry is a big helping of neoplatonic thought, hermetic wisdom, sacred geometry and mystery school traditions. Its cool but again not terribly interesting to most people.

What evidence would you need to see to be convinced that Masons are not Satanic?

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>>132451390
Stupid goy

Bunch of noobs... masonry only requires u to acknowladge a higher power... it can be jebus christ, svarog or fucking laws of physics... anyone who says it is satanism is a fucking retard

>>132466037
An internal war of condemnation for satanic homages within their lodges.

>>132465874
>It is not as interesting as one would expect.
It's let down by the style. You're better off grabbing the Southern Jurisdiction Scottish Rite Ritual & Monitor if you want a palatable publication of his.

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MASONRY SERVES THE RCO

SAME AS JESUITS

SAME AS "JEWS"

THERE IS NO GOOD SECRET SOCIETY

THERE ARE JUST IDIOTS THAT DONT KNOW WHO IS 10 STEPS ABOVE THEIR TOP RANKING MUH SECRET DUDE

ROSE CROSS ORDER IS CLOSE TO THE REAL "JEWS" BUT JESUITS ARE CLOSER. FOR ALL EFFECTIVE PURPOSES THOUGH, they're just all 1 group: the Jews.

>>132466363
Can you be more specific about the Satanic homages?

Would them barring it in their constitutions/rules ect be sufficent proof?

>>132466321
Which completely goes against Christian theology. The God of the Bible commands his people to worship him alone, revealing his supremacy over creation and all created deities. Freemasonry is interfaith deism. In the Biblical worldview it's spiritual adultery.

>>132467102
It's a secret society that has been subverted just like all of them at this point

4chan is the last honest secret society because all we wear is paper masks and have never met

>>132467102
>Which completely goes against Christian theology.

Does this mean that groups like the Boy Scouts are interfaith deists because they don't allow atheists to be members? Similar practices have also existed in governments.

>>132467102
>The God of the Bible commands his people to worship him alone
Yea? What part of Masonry prevents that?

>>132448909
Dear father who are in heaven

Hallowed be thy name

An awakened soul stands before you

to declare his stand against evil

It is sin to not protect thy fellow men

when they are killed like cattle

It is a sin to not protect mother earth

when she cries in agony

Evil can have no more power

when the eyes of the masses are open

I ask of you oh dear GOD

Give me strenght

Deliver me from evil

Make me your instrument of justice

Allow me to reach the hearts of the sleeping ones

And spark in them the long forgotten fire

>>132467638
The fire that gives them love for their fellow men

Eyes to see the truth

A sound mind to guide them

and a strong will so that they may succeed in defeating evil

Guide us to use our free will for good

so that our revolt against injustice may manifest it self

as part of your plan

And that our DEFEAT OF EVIL may be the only outcome

Please protect Kristen Meghan and keep her in good health.

For she is my spark as i am a spark to others.

Let evil and bad people stay away from her and woe to the

ones that may try to silence or hurt her

Let the evil ones who are behind the spraying of death from planes SUFFER as we and mother earth suffers.

Let the conspirators who try to hide, suppress and lie about this truth receive what they have sown.

For apathy and injustice are not my lords any more.

In the name of JESUS CHRIST and you, oh dear GOD

AMEN

>>132448909
more like jews VS Christians you stupid bosnian VPN

>>132467387
the great architect of the universe is not the creator, it's the pre-fall lucifer who deals with matter , they are about control not exaltment of the Lord

>>132467386
The Boy Scouts don't have interfaith prayers and worship.

>>132467387
Quite simply, the god of Freemasonry isn't the God of the Bible. How can people join in worship of two different deities that both claim to be supreme over the other as creator? And how can interfaith worship be considered worship at all if it's not in the body of Christ? That contradicts New Testament theology.

Freemasonry is in opposition to the commands of the God of the Bible. Plain as day, Freemasonry pretends that the worship of "the Great Architect of the Universe" is just worship of whichever god the individual believes in. It's new age religious practice.

>>132452894
>Are you God?
Not an argument. Going in rhetorics are we, Kike?

>>132468955
>the great architect of the universe
Is whatever you believe. It's a placeholder name. Not a specific religions deity.

>>132468985
>Quite simply, the god of Freemasonry
No such thing. Freemasonry isn't a religion.
>Freemasonry pretends that the worship of "the Great Architect of the Universe" is just worship of whichever god the individual believes in.
No pretending there. In lodge, a Muslim prays to Allah, a Hindu prays to Vishnu, and an Odinist prays to Varg Vikness. None of whom have a bearing on the other.

>>132469056
>Not an argument.
Wasn't arguing. Was asking a question of how he could be so certain of the hearts of men he has never met.
>Going in rhetorics are we
Duh, Freemasonry demands members learn the Trivium and Quadrivium to be qualified members of society.
One can't argue without a full grasp of the Trivium.

>>132469482
umm no, i think I was quite clear in laying the blueprint before you

>>132469728
Clear, but unfortunately you were ultimately wrong. Sorry babe.

>>132469482
>Freemasonry isn't a religion.
But it involves religious practice. Whether it's considered a religion or not is irrelevant from God's point of view. The book of Romans teaches that every human knows the one true God and is rebelliously suppressing the truth. How can you join a Muslim and a Hindu in active rebellion against the one true God?

>>132469482
>Spouts rhetorical shit
You're really something are ya? Just answer the damns questions and dont try to parry it with nonsensical, pointless mumbos. You reek of Jewish debating skill

>>132470504
>But it involves religious practice.
Where?
>Whether it's considered a religion or not is irrelevant from God's point of view.
I imagine it's somewhat relevant.
>How can you join a Muslim and a Hindu in active rebellion against the one true God?
I couldn't.

>>132470745
>Spouts rhetorical shit
Dude, not my fault you don't understand the language. Or theology.
> Just answer the damns questions
Okay. What questions?

>>132451390
>aside from believing in the divinity of Jesus Christ.

so you're saying they're jews? or similar to the founding fathers they don't like fairytales about how a biscuit is the body of god?

>>132463910
>It's literally Luciferian.

so we're talking about Seth again

>>132471101
>Where?
You admitted it.
"In lodge, a Muslim prays to Allah, a Hindu prays to Vishnu"
"Used to be that you had to be Trinitarian Christian to join, but now it's just a generic belief in an Almighty."
"99% of our ceremonies are from the Bible."
>I imagine it's somewhat relevant.
Whether Freemasonry is considered a religion is irrelevant if it is in opposition to the revelation of God.
>I couldn't.
So why do it?
Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said:
I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them,
and I will be their God,
and they shall be my people.
Therefore go out from their midst,
and be separate from them, says the Lord,
and touch no unclean thing;
then I will welcome you,
and I will be a father to you,
and you shall be sons and daughters to me,
says the Lord Almighty.

interesting

>>132452894
Popes declared you are excommunicated if you are a Mason. Excommunication = eternal damnation because you are not Catholic anymore

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>>132448909
behold the rightful king of england

>>132472193
>You admitted it.
Would you say that courts of law and government buildings have religious practices then?
>Whether Freemasonry is considered a religion is irrelevant if it is in opposition to the revelation of God.
Which, fortunately it isn't. On both counts.
>So why do it?
I don't?
>Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers
That's more of a national immigration policy flaw.

>>132472409
No longer automatic, though.
> Excommunication = eternal damnation
Oh, Popes are able to override Christ? Interesting.

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>>132472409
But Catholics are the ones who are eternally damned because they worship Satan and Elrond instead of God and Jesus.

>>132472683
>rightful
He abdicated, and died without issue. So really, it was good he passed it to his brother (who was also Grand Master of the UGLE/1st Grand Principal of the SGRACE).

>>132472982
>Oh, Popes are able to override Christ? Interesting.
if you are not Catholic (which excommunication stops you from being) you cannot go to heaven

>>132473069
not going to debate a protnigger, sorry, I actually have a life

>>132473548
>if you are not Catholic (which excommunication stops you from being) you cannot go to heaven
[Biblical Citation Needed]
And how does excommunication prevent you from believing in the Catholic church? In fact, aren't you required to be Catholic to be excommunicated?

>>132473767
>[Biblical Citation Needed]
if you are not part of the body of Christ, i.e. Catholic, you won't go to heaven. Simple.
>And how does excommunication prevent you from believing in the Catholic church?
because excommunication literally means you stop being Catholic, just like being fired from a job stops you from employed
>In fact, aren't you required to be Catholic to be excommunicated?
yes, of course. But we are talking about catholics that join masonry, and de facto with that act stop being Catholics.

>>132473069
Worshiping god and Jesus doesn't matter if you're worshiping them in a blasphemous way.
If you're a Protestant you're a thousand times worse than a Catholic because you're literally an infidel.

>>132472982
Not a meaningful response to my post.
I directly quoted your admission that Freemasonry involves prayer, ceremonies and belief in a god. You even implied that 1% of Masonic ceremonies are not from the Bible. I also provided scriptural proof that the fellowship you have talked about is prohibited by God in 2 Corinthians 6.
https://www.crcna.org/welcome/beliefs/position-statements/lodge-church-membership
https://opc.org/GA/masonry.html
http://www.pcahistory.org/pca/2-300.pdf

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>>132473548
>protnigger

Oh the fucking irony, you smelly shitskin.

>>132474153
If you're Catholic, you worship Satan. Period. You are damned for all eternity and also statistically you are probably a dirty fucking nigger.

When I go to heaven, I'm sure Jesus and I will have a laugh about you and your eternity in hellfire.

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>>132448909
Pray tell who or what is jabulon, do not be deceived. ((their)) father is not our Father, these ppl are of the den of serpents.

>>132453753
It's when the lodges close for summer, like summer vacation in school. You're really exposed here anon. Your knowledge is from YouTube videos, which is all hersay anyway.

>>132474547
>Oh the fucking irony, you smelly shitskin.
black people are humans with a soul too. They are free to be Catholic, at their own home. In fact black cardinals continuously complain about migration from Africa. So what's your point exactly? You're a protniggers because you're a prot, not because of your skin. Shoo shoo protnigger

>>132453558
Aboaz checking in here. Once the lodge re opens will be going to next degree. Stopped going in my EA for a few months, lots of personal stuff going on and wasn't to thrilled with the first few people I met at the lodge. But I am willing to give it another go

>>132473945
>if you are not part of the body of Christ, i.e. Catholic, you won't go to heaven.
So Christ actually meant that the Vatican is the only path to Heaven, and He doesn't matter as much? What a wacky typo. No wonder indulgences were allowed.
>because excommunication literally means you stop being Catholic, just like being fired from a job stops you from employed
Seems more like a match ban on sports players. You're still a baseball player, even if you're suspended. They can't take away your baseball ability any more than the Vatican can stop your faith.
>and de facto with that act stop being Catholics.
Sacraments, faith, and good acts are no longer parts of Christianity?

>>132474391
>Not a meaningful response to my post.
According to you.
>I directly quoted your admission that Freemasonry involves prayer, ceremonies and belief in a god.
Yep.
>You even implied that 1% of Masonic ceremonies are not from the Bible.
Only in the arrangement sense.
>I also provided scriptural proof that the fellowship you have talked about is prohibited by God in 2 Corinthians 6.
So all that talk of "love thy neighbour" is less important?

>>132474553
>what is jabulon
It's a combo word from four languages. It's a title which precedes what is supposed to be the Holy Name of God, which is supposed to be non-sectarian (because it's Holy Royal Arch, a Craft degree), but it's purely Christian. Like, i don't get how the other religions who join can tolerate it.

>>132475279
>So Christ actually meant that the Vatican is the only path to Heaven, and He doesn't matter as much? What a wacky typo. No wonder indulgences were allowed.
protnigger spotted. Study Catholic theology and you'll get it.
>Seems more like a match ban on sports players. You're still a baseball player, even if you're suspended. They can't take away your baseball ability any more than the Vatican can stop your faith.
Seems to me you are a filthy mason trying to damage control. You have to choose you fucking moron, you can't serve two masters. Excommunication = not Catholic anymore = not part of the Body of Christ anymore = eterneal damnation. If you are not ok with it don't be a mason, it's your own problem.
>Sacraments, faith, and good acts are no longer parts of Christianity?
You can't receive the sacraments if you are not Catholic. If you have faith you wouldn't do something that goes against Catholic dogma. Good acts are not enough to go to heaven.

>>132475627
>Study Catholic theology
I have. A lot. The Vatican is not God.
>you can't serve two masters.
No one is asking you to.
> If you have faith you wouldn't do something that goes against Catholic dogma.
It isn't against Catholic dogma though. Just a modern political feud.
> Good acts are not enough to go to heaven.
So you'd be okay with it being just faith?
But seriously, have you considered seeing what the words of Christ are on such matters, rather than a temporal Vatican City monarch?

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This many people shilling for Masonry on /pol/ ? Disgusting. If i had the choice to kill a muzzie or a Mason, i'd choose the Mason, every single time. Traitors ALWAYS get the first bullet. Fucking Cryptokikes, kill yourselves.

>>132452999

Why does it require belief in all powerful being or force? Is it a "those are just the rules thing"?

It doesn't seem reasonable that masonry wouldn't respect someone's personal belief that there is no all powerful being.

>>132476006
>I have. A lot. The Vatican is not God.
No you clearly haven't. Never said it was.
>No one is asking you to.
you are if you call yourself both christian and mason
>It isn't against Catholic dogma though. Just a modern political feud.
It is against Catholic dogma, whether you like it or not. That's a fact, it's no political feud.
>So you'd be okay with it being just faith?
You need both faith and good works.
>But seriously, have you considered seeing what the words of Christ are on such matters, rather than a temporal Vatican City monarch?
so you really are a protnigger. No use in further discussing with you. I thought I was opening the eyes of a deceived catholic, but it's obvious you are just a protnigger, which means you are too far gone into satanic lies. Good riddance.

>>132476173
>Why does it require belief in all powerful being or force?
Because a lot of the lessons are theological in nature. The general idea is that a man can't really be good, or trustworthy without having religious belief.

>>132476261
>Never said it was.
Then why do you think it's more important than His Word?
>you are if you call yourself both christian and mason
But there's no master in the latter requiring you to follow?
>It is against Catholic dogma
It isn't. Perhaps this is a language barrier issue, my spaghetti loving friend?
Dogma refers to principles. Preventing membership in Masonry isn't not a core Catholic principle, it's just a modern tiff. Remember than KoC is a thing, so it's hypocritical to speak against Masonry on quite a few grounds.
>You need both faith and good works.
I concur. And i was just making a Martin Luther joke.
>No use in further discussing with you.
Scared of learning enough to change your mind?

Don't worry, through faith you might learn. Trust in God, not man, even if the Vatican tells you not to.

>>132476848
>The general idea is that a man can't really be good, or trustworthy without having religious belief.

Thanks for the answer anon.

I have been interested in joining a local lodge for a long time, however that one thing is what always stops me (the belief in a higher power thing). I don't believe in a higher power, so I'm not going to join and lie to say that I do. It's a shame because I have a sincere interest in becoming a mason.

>>132451330
>Masons
>Christian
LMFAO

>>132477331
Masons are all satanists with symbols indicating that anyway. Masons believe in God, sure, but only so they can turn their back on him. They advertise for Christians so they can corrupt them.

>>132477331
Yea, sorry bro. I know a few atheists who would otherwise be fine members, but just don't fit the requirements.
There are fake lodges like the GOdF which allow them, though. It's risky, but overall similar stuff. But they're also hardcore jews and liberals...

>>132477539
>Masons believe in God, sure, but only so they can turn their back on him.
That makes zero sense.
>Masons are all satanists with symbols indicating that anyway
Such as?

>>132477865

Does the higher power have to be a higher power that they approve of?

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>>132476173
>Why does it require belief in all powerful being or force?
Because at the top it slides you into Satanism/Luciferianism and you can't get there if you never believed in God in the first place

>>132478075
Yes and no. It can be pretty general. Like, just a supreme creator, rather than a specific religion. But it comes down to the lodge. If you try to join some good ol' boys in the deep south, they mightn't be partial to you tryna join if you weren't a Southern Baptist. Ya dig? Whereas others would be okay with you believing that string theory fulfills the role of supreme creator to your beliefs. As long as you're honest about it.

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>>132455502
>And it is called Catholicism, not "Sun Cult."

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>>132477865
>That makes zero sense.
Probably because you're a fucking moron, or a deceptive kike. I'll lean with a bit of both.
You can't exalt Satan without believing in God.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuT_4XElXOU&t=80s

>>132478840
>Probably because you're a fucking moron,
Or it just doesn't make sense.
>You can't exalt Satan without believing in God.
Which is precisely why it makes zero sense to do so. You'd be choosing the loser. The one who doesn't like you, and wants only bad for you.
Literally no benefit to doing so.
And that pic is fake news. Look at where it's from.

>>132452860
Baphomet is Mohammad

Masons worship Yahweh the old testament version of God/Satan

>>132470411
too bad i'm neither , abo rtive midget

>>132479134
>Baphomet is Mohammad
More likely Abu Fiama(t).

>>132479182
So you can prove it?

>>132452326
I'm catholic and a mason

>>132479298
>worships satan
>catholic

>>132479288
yes look here >>132478840
>>132479298

double dip in the lake of fire wow

>>132451631
Masonry follows lucifer, the intellect, who they believe to be the ultimate. Masons believe man can be god and that morality is a burden to human progress. Just read Albert Pike Morals and Dogma you'll know everything you need about the masons.

>>132453269
Hello brother
What jurisdiction?

>>132479134

Yaldaboath is the Old Testament god.

>>132452920
This is why Kennedy was really killed his family is Catholic and the NWO Masonic elite were making a statement that no Catholics will ever have power again.

>>132451835
This

>>132479372
>yes look here >>132478840
See; >>132479017
That pic is from a magazine published by an avowed anti-Mason who made up a bunch of articles to make the Craft look bad.

>>132479438
Queensland best land, bro.

>>132479412
>Just read Albert Pike Morals and Dogma you'll know everything you need about the masons.
Rituals would be better. M&D is good, but it's just Pike's opinions on the degrees he wrote, and have since changed.

>>132453828
Are you retarded or just trying to deflect his question? There are hundreds of book about masonry written by masons you must know that unless you are an idiot, which seems more likely every time you post. Manly P Hall has written extensively on masonry and it's true meaning and Albert Pikes morals and dogma spells out plainly who the masons are and what they are working towards.

ITT

Tinfoil hat retards who discovered the super secret inner circle of Freemasonry without ever entering a lodge room

Inb4
Huuurrrr

You are not part of the inner circle huuur. But somehow we discovered the secret even though we are not masons but you are and would be in a better position to uncover the reptilian masters who worship satan even though you just spent the last 3hrs at Grand Lodge in a board meeting with 2x Christians and a Muslim

Huuurrrr

>>132456943
How do they oppose they own interests? Masons want a world without morality where man is god and they are doing a fine job of making that happen. You do realize that anyone in the first 3 degrees has no idea what freemasonry is actually about and are just there to be used for their connections by the higher degrees right?

>>132480157
And you know the truth because google right?

>>132457473
33 is the diameter of the sun, it's also the fraction (1/3=33 percent) of the fallen angels that came to earth and created the nephilim.

>>132480053
The contradictions of your subversion are starting to show. First you said Masons weren't secretive at all and anybody could know everything there is to know, now you say its a super secret secret society and that nobody can possibly say what they're about without selling their soul to moloch.

>>132480321
Scottish rite isn't true masonry
Practically died out here in Aust.

>>132458025
I'm guessing like all other presidents, they are controlled by the European elite. Look at the founding of the CIA it was John Foster Dulles who's family was of noble descent and was married into European nobility.

>>132480347
Not the same Bro
Check code before making fool of yourself

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>>132479134
Satanic goat is literally yahveh

>>132480273
No because I've read books by masons who state this.

>>132480624
All of them?

Name them

Yes the Nazis as well, like all fascists, were a Catholic plot to strike back against the Jewish and Masonic "Enlightenment"

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Freemasonry; Ideology, Organization and Policy

https://archive.org/details/FreemasonryIdeologySchwarzSS

A scan of an English translation of Dieter Schwarz's phamplet Die Freimaurerei - Weltanschauung, Organisation und Politik or Freemasonry: Ideology, Organization and Polocy translated. This book was printed by the SchutzStaffel ϟϟand issued to Waffen SS, Ghestapo and German command, it was also available to the general population.

This short book summarizes and exposes the subversive, anti-western nature of Freemasonry and how they have conspired and were conspiring against the traditional Europe.
It also goes into the Jewish dominance and influence over Freemasonry. Arguably Freemasonry is the Jewish revolutionary spirit in action.

The book also goes into how Freemason Richard Von Coudenhove-Kalergi, the founder and president of the Pan-Europa movement that would become the European Union received Jewish funding.

>>132480561
Except you are because you never shut the fuck up about your little inner circle as if you aren't a low level pleb

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>>132479786
let me tell you a little extra-craftwerk thing fella
>masonry is basically larping to be a jew , also PIC

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It's always the same aus poster shilling for this satanic cult.

>>132475279
>So all that talk of "love thy neighbour" is less important?
You're changing the subject. You do not want to interact with the text that I have provided and that's because it says you're disobeying God.

>>132480691

Written by nazi
Nazi rounded up Freemasons and put them into camps

What is propaganda


How do you even function in life?

>>132480862
Should've killed all you fucks along with your kike masters

>>132480678
Morals and Dogma, lost keys of freemasonry, secret teachings of all ages, freemasonry of the ancient Egyptians. Idk why you think someone would want to read every book realized by a mason.

>>132480992
Why?

Based on what?

How bluepilled are you to actually believe that devil worshipping tripe?

>>132480992
This

>>132481095
Because you said you had read them.
Which is false
You named like six out of the 100,000 available at any Grand Lodge

>>132480430
Nigga you crazy. Rose Croix is like the fourth most popular side degree.

>>132480790
>masonry is basically larping to be a jew ,
Yea? How so?
Your pic gets Levi's Baphomet and alchemy wrong, dude. But i guess you knew that since it's a modified version.

>>132480834
>You do not want to interact with the text that I have provided
I'm fine with it. I just think you're misinterpreting it and ignoring the greater picture.

>>132481095
>lost keys of freemasonry, secret teachings of all ages, freemasonry of the ancient Egyptians
Not written by a Mason.
Morals & Dogma is an opinion piece about the A&AR.

>>132481245
Maybe in QLD
Here in NSW it's practically gone. Templar and secret monitors are most popular.

Rose is struggling. Mostly members are in their 70s and really snub the young guys

Demolay is starting to resurge (I know not masonry) just threw that in for a tidbit.

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>>132480862
lol

>>132481245
Excuse me? Manly P Hall was a 33 degree mason he was initiated in the US.

>>132481638
And?

US are under their own constitution mostly seperate from the scot and Irish constitution

I went over there last year and the yanks rituals and customs are completely different to anything else I've seen in any other country

>>132481638
Also
Most Masons outside of US wouldn't even know who or what Prince Hall was

Not even considered regular by most US Grand lodges either

>>132448909
>The whole world is a geopolitical battle for power between Masons and Jesuits
Fix'd that for ya.

>>132481593
>Here in NSW it's practically gone.
I'm not too sad about it. Might mean they'll move the SC up here, and we might get to do some intermediate degrees and American style stuff. Or it could go bad and go to Melbourne...
>Templar and secret monitors are most popular.
HRA is here, followed by those two. Scarlett Cord is getting popular because of it.
>Mostly members are in their 70s and really snub the young guys
I hear that. I switched a few Chapters to get away from the old bastards who didn't like <30s advancing.
>Demolay is starting to resurge
Same here. In Brisbane and Townsville at least. Like, it's good to see, but i think they should do more fun stuff. Teach the kids to be proper esquires or something, rather than just Craft lodge-lite, with the occasional LAN party.

>>132481638
Not when he wrote those books he wasn't.
He wrote them, then like 20-30 years later he joined Masonry. They're interesting books, but they've not much to do with the Craft.

>>132482293
Sorry should have clarified: HRA is no.1 here
Mostly because it's easiest to get into. + we have mm ceremonies to wet the palate of newly raised brethren.

>Australians LARPing as Jews itt
Masons should get gassed

>>132482293
It's odd how the oldies are in Rose.
A few are in craft lodges that I visit regularly and they are the most humble and hospitable guys. But as soon as it's a rose meeting; complete attitude change

>>132482934
That's ok. That's how the world views all americans

>>132482949
The numbers go to their heads, i'm sure. We even had a chair throwing incident at the Sunny Coast.

>>132481245
You agree that Freemasonry requires belief in a god, that it involves prayer and that it involves ceremonies.
You must also agree that 2 Corinthians 6 tells you:
1. Worship and fellowship with rebellious sinners is like being joined to them by a yoke - a wooden bar that is used to pull a cart. You are unequally yoked with those who hate God. You pull one side of the cart, they don't pull the other, you go around in circles - you achieve nothing. Worshipping the one true God with unbelievers is of no benefit to you.
2. Partnership with lawlessness, fellowship with darkness, Christ with Satan, believer with unbeliever - your worship in the lodge does not honour God.

"Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said:
I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them,
and I will be their God,
and they shall be my people.
Therefore go out from their midst,
and be separate from them, says the Lord,
and touch no unclean thing;
then I will welcome you,
and I will be a father to you,
and you shall be sons and daughters to me,
says the Lord Almighty."

>>132483599
No sorry
You are wrong

But thankyou for trying to participate in something you literally know nothing about

Please stay ignorant, it's amusing

>>132481903
And what? You are in Australia, an insignificant piece of shit island inhabited by sub human abos. The US is the most powerful country economically and militarily in the world so I don't care about Australian masonry anyway. But what I find funny is you acting like the York rite is somehow superior to the Scottish rite like who the fuck do you think you are? The York right has the most strange and different rituals from all the rest of freemasonry they even call it the "American Rite"

>>132483775
I think you had a different conversation in your head.

What is actually vexing you? Pulling a double shift at Wendy's are you?

>>132483775
All Masons are edgy little Satanic shits that produced such degenerate faggots as Aleister Crowley. If you want to LARP as a kike for all your life stay the path.

>>132483599
>You must also agree that 2 Corinthians 6 [14]tells you:
Yes, but it comes to a matter of practicality. Would you discourage all missionaries because they have to be with unbelievers? Do you have any non-Christian co-workers and/or friends?

>>132483775
>like the York rite is somehow superior to the Scottish rite like who the fuck do you think you are? The York right has the most strange and different rituals from all the rest of freemasonry they even call it the "American Rite"
Oh 'Murica. American Rite is the Preston-Webb Rite system. Broadly it means the "two rite system" of "York" and "Scottish" because those two are popular there.
Like, the "York Rite" is superior to the "Scottish" one, because it has more stuff, and doesn't do video degrees. It's proper Masonry for an appendant body with similar rituals to the Craft. But the A&AR does have a good set up as the "University of Masonry." At least in the South.

>>132484305
Have you met all masons?

Masons are satanist? if the Catholics love fucking children so much i cant imagine what the evil side must be getting up too

>>132451390
No, it isn't. Their only requirement is to believe in a higher power when you enter. As you progress through the ranks and perform rituals, you're told that all the rituals you did were to Baal, Moloch, or whatever; and at that point you're too far gone to go back. It has nothing to do with Christianity.

>>132484936
>you're told that all the rituals you did were to Baal, Moloch, or whatever;
Because we live in Warhammer 40k, right?

>>132454638
>nigger boy
>white girl

satanists are cuuuucks

>>132484828
No I havent met all Jews or Muslims either but I know enough to say with certainty you're all collectively enemies of Western civilization.

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>>132448909
>im supposed to trust an unsourced facebook post
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>>132485187
And your overlords

How does it feel to be licking our boots for the rest of your lives?

>>132484936
Lol
There tards always make me laugh
They know all our secrets even without ever asking

>>132485049
I don't get the reference. Warhammer was never my thing.

>>132485187
Churchill, Washington , Henry ford , Colonel Sanders. All enemies of western society

Yup. You got us. We're undone .
How will we ever recover

>>132485948
Shame, it's actually got a lot of good stuff in it. But basically, in W40k, you can accidentally worship the Chaos gods. Like, if you kill someone, you're empowering Khorne. If you do drugs, you're empowering Slaanesh, and so forth.
But unlike in 40k, you can't accidentally worship things you don't believe in.

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>>132481245
>masonry is basically larping to be a jew ,
Yea? How so?
Your pic gets Levi's Baphomet and alchemy wrong, dude. But i guess you knew that since it's a modified version.
----------------------------------------------------------
everything in that pic is clear and exact , if you don't know why then it's your fault in a way

>masonry is a moquery of a religion
have a look :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJpnBXYEXfU

You must use your discernment , if youre in masonry you cant look at it from outside, I'm an Orthodox Christian but only came to my baptismal faith after my 30's coming from a blavatsky/bailey theosophist family background and heavily hinduism and buddhism positive.

But it's a false path . I tell you so you never say you never heard of it , of all ways there are only Orthodoxy is closer to God, and the insights that come fromk being there, provided you are a real faithful, are unprecedented.

>>132486190
I became a mason in my 30s

Sucks to be you

>>132486129
I'd agree with the first three, dude, despite admiring Ford.

>>132486190
>everything in that pic is clear and exact
But wrong. Like someone who didn't know what baphomet means or what alchemy is made it or something.
>have a look :
Hah, neat, i'm in that video. Gary was a damn fine GM, but our BoGP was shit and blocked all the good stuff he wanted to do.
>if youre in masonry you cant look at it from outside
Sure i can. I know we have plenty of faults. Just not the ones we're accused of.

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Wow, this thread is still up. For everyone who actually wants to read about Freemasonry, or anything else related to the esoteric, below is a link to the library kept by the Ape of Thoth from /x/.

Everything is here for anyone to read. I wouldn't say the knowledge itself is dangerous, or evil, but we do have many men in power today who are using such knowledge to further an evil agenda.

https://mega.nz/#F!AE5yjIqB!y7Vdxdb5pbNsi2O3zyq9KQ!tEAkwbRZ

>>132486190
Scratch that, i thought it was the 2013 vid. Adrian was okay, but I just never felt he was that keen on Freemasonry. Too much of a businessman who set up (hopefully inadvertently) a lot of bad stuff.

>>132486428
can't really say you won anything, and with a much shorter trajectory than mine, what exactly is it that makes you think that becoming a mason is an advantage .

>>132486533
If your immediate awareness does not hit the alarm while you watch this procession then you must sharpen it more

>But wrong. Like someone who didn't know what baphomet means or what alchemy is made it or something.

Whatever hides the corrupting influence of the serpent is a part of its enterprise.

>>132486749
over and out , noone really leaves 4chan for ever, we will still be here in the future to continue

>>132487323
>If your immediate awareness does not hit the alarm while you watch this procession then you must sharpen it more
Do enlighten me then. You're clearly wanting to.
>Whatever hides the corrupting influence of the serpent is a part of its enterprise.
Sure? But what does that have to do with it?

>>132454458
This. Christians and Masons are both types of Judeo-Cuck who sell out their own people and worship the jew.

>>132479863
>"It's totally secret guys!"
>There are hundreds of book about masonry written by masons you must know that unless you are an idiot

There's only one idiot here

you

>>132487510
we will talk about it another i must leave for a while, your theoretical knowledge must become visceral, now one does not know everything unless he lives in the spirit of God the whole time and is dead to the world, but consider the first time you watch that clip again and something clicks about not being right, being a milestone. no harm meant . farewell

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>>132488068
You may be retarded.
He never said anything was secretive. He said there are books written by Masons based on their practices and aims, and he's right. In case you haven't noticed, Masons like to wear everything mostly out in the open, just like the Jews they are LARPing as. None of it is THAT much of a secret, it's just nobody actually talks about any of it as an unwritten rule.

>>132488442
>we will talk about it another i must leave for a while
Couldn't think of a reason, huh? It is literally just dudes marching around a room.

>>132486129
Churchill was, like most Masons aspire to be, a Zionist. Probably the best Jew LARPer that ever lived.

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>>132452073
T. Naive 14 year old

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>>132448909

two sides of the same coin desu.