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'LEFTOVER' WOMEN FORCED TO FREEZE EGGS...

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A dearth of marriagable men has left an “oversupply” of educated women taking desperate steps to preserve their fertility, experts say.

https://archive.fo/s9Omm

The first global study into egg freezing found that shortages of eligible men were the prime reason why women had attempted to take matters into their own hands. Experts said “terrifying” demographic shifts had created a “deficit” of educated men and a growing problem of “leftover” professional women, with female graduates vastly outnumbering males in in many countries. The study led by Yale University, involved interviews with 150 women undergoing egg freezing at eight clinics.

Researchers found that in more than 90 per cent of cases, the women were attempting to buy extra time because they could not find a partner to settle down with, amid a “dearth of educated men”. Experts said the research bust the myth that “selfish career women” were choosing to out their fertility on ice in a bid to put their careers first.

In recent decades, the gender balance at British universities has tipped dramatically. In 1985, 45 per cent of UK students were female, but by 2000, 54 per cent were women. This group, now in their late 30s, is finding it harder to find a man of equal status, fertility experts said. And the trend is set to steepen in future generations, they warned, with nearly six in ten current students female.

The research, presented at the European Society for Human Reproduction and Embryology conference in Geneva, was based on detailed interviews with women in the United States, and Israel. But the lead author said similar trends were likely in the UK, where women are 35 per cent more likely than men to go to university. Prof Marcia Inhorn, Professor of Anthopolgy at Yale University, said professional women found themselves losing out in a game of “musical chairs” because there were simply too few men of the same calibre to go around.
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>>132435723
Not interested kill yourselves
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It's a tragedy that we have so many "men" in our society who are not suitable as a husband but I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't laugh at an unfortunate thawing accident in this scenario.
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>>132435954
It's on the front page of http://drudgereport.com/
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Hmmm, probably will help the white fertility Rate honestly
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>>132435723
They can always choose educated refugees.
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>>132435723
>eligible men
>make lots o' money
There we have it
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>>132436148
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>>132435723
They forgot to mention that "eligible" men are exclusively CEO's.
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>>132435723
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL1-340ODCM

is Mike Judge red pilled?
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>>132435723
Educated =/= smaht
Goes for both sexes
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>>132435991
>I wouldn't laugh at an unfortunate thawing accident in this scenario.
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>>132435723
>need a man who makes more money than them
>down with "the patriarchy"
kek
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>>132435723
>women
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>>132435723
>rich men don't want me because I'm too old
>I'll freeze my eggs and hope another rich man marries me when I'm older

Women logic
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>>132435723
If they make so much money already and have fought 'for workplace equality,' why would I have to make as much as them? Why can't they settle for someone slightly poorer? Oh, that's right, women don't marry for love or see relationships as objectively important.
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This is what you get when you divide feminism by reality. The dividend is misery.
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>>132436148
this. these roasties can try and settle down with the illiterate violent men they wanted to bring in so badly.
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>>132435723
Why can't all these women just share Chads?
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>>132435723
So do what men do: marry down. LOL every thirtysomething professional male who married a twenty-one year old cutie had no problem, so--??

Plenty of lonely neets would love a hot MILF and even a kid or two, plus plenty of $$$ from the MILF's successful career.
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>>132436580
https://therationalmale.com/the-best-of-rational-male-year-one/
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>>132436698

They will be probably.
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>>132436692
>This is what you get when you divide feminism by reality. The dividend is misery.
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>>132435723
No man wants to date a whore like that. They want a kind, obedient woman who would serve as a great mother and housewife. Clearly, these women aren't fitting any of those criteria.
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>>132436538
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>>132436580
>If they make so much money already and have fought 'for workplace equality,' why would I have to make as much as them? Why can't they settle for someone slightly poorer? Oh, that's right, women don't marry for love or see relationships as objectively important.

You are so stupid man, my wife's portfolio is millions of percents greater than my own. Although I am cool as fuck I am sure she could have found someone MUCH cooler and much more easily.
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>>132436580
This, exactly. I know a couple of women who did do that and they're fine. Once the baby's popped out they just go back to work. Their husbands enjoy being child-rearers and househusbands and the wife enjoys getting back to her career and bringing home the bacon. It's all good.
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>>132436692
This is a top notch post worthy of (You)s galore
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>>132436538
>Women logic
- Woman wishes to wish away the differences between the sexes. - but then, that is the nature of woman.

- For a man to pretend to understand women is bad manners; for him really to understand them is bad morals.

- Men dislike women who don't understand them, and women dislike men who do.

- Even when a man understands a woman, he can't believe it.

http://www.theabsolute.net/minefield/woman.html#_Toc489442832
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>>132435723
Women are living proof that universities are dead
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>>132436363
That's true. Educated = smug.
Modern universities are nothing more than scams. Honestly the internet made both libraries and universities obsolete. The only reason they are still around is the stigma of looking down on people without degrees. Jobs should really just require an aptitude test, no degree.
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>>132436692
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>>132436919
Then your wife is a shining example of what a good woman looks like. You won, settle down.
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>>132437120
>>132437120
THIS
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>>132435723
So Idocracy is real now?
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>>132435723
It's tragic, there are only 540 billionaires in the entire United States. That means 99.999999% of women have to settle for someone who is not good enough for them.
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>>132435723
>Hey guys I am tired of being a feminazi, I am ready to settle down now tee hee
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>>132437120
>>132437215

>we don't need two of the defining institutions of Western civilization because we have the Internet now

If you don't have a grasp of the true purpose of the university then you don't have the ability to determine whether they are obsolete.

Protip: they aren't job-training centers and degrees aren't about prestige.
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>>132435723
Are you a virgin? No? Then fuck off.
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CNN is badly in need of an ass fucking. Just FYI.
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>>132437830
Academic-Military-Industrial-Complex?
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>>132438132
Sorry, I'll refrain from posting

TO WAR!!
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>>132437830
let me guess, it's something about stepping out on your own and experiencing the real world, finding yourself or some shit like that? If they are not job training centers, then why do you need a degree to get a decent job. If you need one because it shows you are mature enough to get through school, why can't I get an engineering job with an education degree? Just face it, for the most part, universities are scams. Sure they can provide some good life experiences but you don't need to pay 20000 dollars a year for those.
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>>132437830
Nigga wut?
>>132438206
KEK!

I'm sort of ashamed to admit this, but every escort that I've ever banged has legitimately been a University Student. But, that's not to say that all women University students are hookers. Private Unis especially.
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>>132438505
>KEK!
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>>132435723

Men were good at labor, fighting, hunting, while women were superior at child rearing, cooking and making a domicile. These were things that spawned from primitive societies, but times have changed.

We live in the information age. Braun is less valuable than it was. In particular, that sort of low-level male, middle-manager, monkey tasking thing is even less valued, because it can be automated. All people doing repetitive service tasks can be eliminate, male or female, but one thing is happening -- traditionally female jobs, like education, creative arts, nursing, child care, etc. are where the jobs are, because they cannot be easily automated. Likewise, women are actually more attentive and goal-oriented, which explains why they attend and graduate college at higher rates. Men have outlier smarts -- of course the most intelligent people in math and science have been men, but females, in the aggregate are more suited to today's society than most men.

Unfortunately for you, you are redundant. And the constellation of personal traits that go along with the things you seem to like -- manliness, braun, high-T, aggression, competitiveness, etc., -- are paired with infidelity, alcoholism, depression, lack of emotional intelligence and poor interpersonal and intimate communication.

You could get away with it before, but the world is changed. A woman who is successful does not want a loser dude. Not even a normie middling dude. That doesn't even cut it. In the meantime, you guys are chasing the small percentage of females that porn and sadness taught you to want, and losing yourselves in video games. It's a sad state of affairs, to be sure.
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Isaiah 4:1

In that day seven women will take hold of one man and say, "We will eat our own food and provide our own clothes; only let us be called by your name. Take away our disgrace!"
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>>132436070
reason enough to not post it here. Fuck off
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>>132435723
This is why I'm going to marry a deaf chick
Mutually beneficial
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>>132435991
It's not the men, it's the women. These career women are 3s and 4s, and will only settle with a 10.
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>>132435723
>>132435991

There are plenty of "eligible" men, they're just not high status enough or good looking enough.

This is literally like someone claiming to be starving while surrounded by decent food, claiming there's nothing to eat because it's not 4 star cuisine. You're not worth 4 star cuisine, bitch. You're Culver's or Five Guys, you get Culver's or Five Guys. You're McDonald's, you get McDonald's.

This is part of why chastity was so enforced in times past: once a plain woman gets convenience-fucked by Chad, she conflates that with meaning a Chad will marry her. Nothing less will satisfy her now. Chad doesn't want her long term. Beta Bobby would have gladly taken her. Too late now.

Lower your standards or fuck off.
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>>132435723
Absolutely hilarious.
Feels great as a dude that I can be satisfied all my life, but they've got a time limit topkek.

Repost this after the shitstorm of the doxxed pledditor has passed over, everyone's in a frenzy.
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>>132438651
Who says we're still chasing?
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>>132439488
oh shit, forgot to remove my shitposting kuk flag
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>>132438651
Or how about this,

Women can have the careers they say they crave so bad, and I can have my hobbies, interests, and independence.

Thing is, the most unhappy people are middle aged career focused women. And the most unhappy men are divorcees. Given that over 50% of marriages end in divorce, the best choice is to live life to its fullest on my own, and not give a fuck.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/high-octane-women/201109/meet-the-least-happy-people-in-america
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>>132437244
>>132437365
>>132437484
>>132437597
>>132437734
>>132437929
Thanks for ruining the thread, faggot.
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>>132436919
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>>132438499

>let me guess, it's something about stepping out on your own and experiencing the real world, finding yourself or some shit like that?

Right, as the concept of the university was developed in Southern California in the mid-1980s, set to a montage of bland pop hits. Why should anyone here take your opinion seriously when you base your assumptions on cliches gathered in a single generation while ignoring the seven hundred years of history prior?

>If they are not job training centers, then why do you need a degree to get a decent job. If you need one because it shows you are mature enough to get through school, why can't I get an engineering job with an education degree?

You need to ask this question of the organizations who hire college graduates. If the convention were to only hire candidates who met a minimum one-rep weight for bench press, would you then be questioning the purpose of gyms and telling everyone they were a scam?

>Just face it, for the most part, universities are scams. Sure they can provide some good life experiences but you don't need to pay 20000 dollars a year for those.

Then don't. We need to go back to the time when universities were reserved for a select few who were willing to study a broad range of fields in a monastic environment. It's pretty clear that the current paradigm is not beneficial to Western society.
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>>132435723
>This group, now in their late 30s, is finding it harder to find a man of equal status, fertility experts said.

Status? Status?

Since when does someone need a university degree to make a reasonable living?

Some trades or small business people make a reasonable living.

WTF?

And some of these brain-dead SJW college students make me believe that just being in university does not mean you are smart either.
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>>132435723
>women are 35 per cent more likely than men to go to university. Prof Marcia Inhorn, Professor of Anthopolgy at Yale University, said professional women found themselves losing out in a game of “musical chairs” because there were simply too few men of the same calibre to go around.

No fucking shit you idiots. Marry down then. Fuck's sake. It's not like male doctors won't marry anything less than female doctors since the dawn of civilization. It's just further proof that some of these "professional" women, are nothing but greedy cunts.
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Some good comments under this article if you don't mind clicking your NoScript half a dozen times.
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>>132435954
Why do we even allow more than one post?
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>>132435723
all i'm getting from this is that if i finish my degree, roasties will literally be lining up in a cue for me to impregnate them
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>>132440731
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>>132438953
>>132439465

I take it you two don't see the irony in responding to a complaint by women, whose problems finding a mate allegedly arise from their inflated self-image, by claiming that men are more eligible to be a mate than the sexual marketplace would suggest.
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>>132440731
>>132440808
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>>132435723
>shortages of eligible men
so ummm, who's sperm are they exactly going to use if they can't find a good man? or has /pol/ had me fooled on the genetic aspect and women can make test tube babies
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>>132440441
Bro, first you disagree with me and now you agree with everything I say. I swear to God, every person who has that flag has proven time and time again to be intellectually incapacitated or just plain dumb.
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>female """"people""""
2D superior waifus when ?
>mfw men use 3DPD's frozen eggs for children and 2D waifus for companionship while 3D women watch from the sidelines
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>experts say

uh huh
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>>132435723
Tragic that they think themselves too good for tradesmen
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>>132440441
Universities exist because that's where all the books and professors were.
Now I can watch university lectures like JBP's for free in my room without any syllabuses or exams.
Or I can just read PDFs of peer reviewed papers to my hearts content.

Monetizing information is the problem here.
Hence UNIVERSITIES ARE OBSOLETE.
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>the female jew has been brainwashed into thinking a life of work work work for CEO Goldberg and then having offspring at 50 was a good idea

this is what they get for listening to a bunch of rich, privileged trustfund kiddie flappers who were too reach to need to work and angry lesbian spinsters who hated men. Feminism is self-destruction.
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>>132435723
>ugly women
>looking for high calibre men
Laughable
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>>132435723
>A dearth of marriagable men has left an “oversupply” of educated women
women need to understand an education and a six figure job and nothing to their desirability

An unemployed 20 year old girl living with her parents is more desirable than a 30 year old making 150k a year
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>>132439683
>https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/high-octane-women/201109/meet-the-least-happy-people-in-america

Hey -- I say "you do you," but you do realize that the article said the HAPPIEST men in that study are upper-middle-class men who are happily married with a family. Why not shoot for that?

I would also not say that 50 percent of women are trading their children outright (who will end up involuntarily childless) for a career -- since almost half of women with children work a full-time job.

There's a lot of gray area in there -- but all people should do what they want to do. I think that women and men who cannot find someone, for whatever reason, is more a personality trait issue than an identity/demographic issue.
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>>132436316
No, he's a sanctimonious retard. A) IQ is not entirely hereditary. B) Smart people will always be able to fleece stupid people, so retards getting into power is not likely.
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>>132435723

bitches need to marry down then

Men have been doing it for 1000's of years you dumb sluts.
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>mfw in 3 years this will start happening to women I went to school with.
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>>132440441
>We need to go back to the time when universities were reserved for a select few who were willing to study a broad range of fields in a monastic environment. It's pretty clear that the current paradigm is not beneficial to Western society.

So you are basically agreeing with me but being really confrontational about it. As I said, MODERN universities are scams. I was not saying universities have always been useless. Universities should go back to what they once were, but they never will. They are run for profit and there is too much money in churning out unskilled, debt-ridden, liberal arts graduates. The only way universities might reform themselves, is if people start hiring non college grads. College is not necessary for a majority of jobs that are currently occupied by college grads.
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>>132441023

Did you go to college?
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>>132440884
Interesting, thanks for posting.
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>>132440948

>Bro, first you disagree with me and now you agree with everything I say.

"Everything [you] say" being:

>>132437103
>Women are living proof that universities are dead

>>132437215
>THIS

>>132438505
>I'm sort of ashamed to admit this, but every escort that I've ever banged has legitimately been a University Student. But, that's not to say that all women University students are hookers. Private Unis especially.

Not sure where agreement or disagreement ever entered the conversation on this train of thought.
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>>132441403
>bitches need to marry down then
the thing is its not marrying down
these women have little value
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>>132441445
tee-hee. I'm going to tell the truth here, watching all of these entitled cunts crash and burn is going to be a high point in my life. Hence, I think I will put committing suicide off (which I only say for laughs) until I see this thing through the end.
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>>132441348
>IQ is not entirely hereditary.

Well, not entirely I suppose...
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>>132441519
Nope. You initially implied that I suggested that we should DO AWAY WITH the universities altogether. I never hinted at such a thing. In fact, I think we should REVIVE THEM. But whatever. And I'm not going to do some tryhard horseshit and link every episode of our contention like an insecure little bitch.
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>>132441861
It's infinitely amusing.
Imagine how it'll be rubbed in their faces even more in the next decade.
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>But the lead author said similar trends were likely in the UK, where women are 35 per cent more likely than men to go to university.

Shows to me how lazy pwople are on their literature reviews these days. I know someone who already did that research in a similar uk study. They should know that if they read the background correctly.

lazy fucking social scientists.
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>>132442092
I'm literally shaking from excitement at what's yet to come.
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>>132442236
Hello, Single Mom
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>>132435723
>https://archive.fo/s9Omm

Good thing we imported all those future doctors and lawyers into Europe the last couple of years!!!!

They will be willing donors.
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>>132435723
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The main problem is the sneering at trade jobs. If you tell someone you are a builder, they look down on you because you didn't go to university.

I fucking wish I was a person with a trade. I'd make more money. Degrees are very worthless. someone should invent a turbo degree that teaches only the essentials to specific jobs in 3 months.

I'm a data analyst and frankly all you need is excel, access and basic SQL. If you know that any power BI is obvious.
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>>132442076

>You initially implied that I suggested

Jesus Christ. Here, take your Internet argument victory.

>>132441449

>So you are basically agreeing with me but being really confrontational about it.

I don't agree with you and it's clear you're not really getting the significance of the institution in the first place.

>As I said, MODERN universities are scams. I was not saying universities have always been useless.

You also said they are obsolete.

>Universities should go back to what they once were, but they never will. They are run for profit and there is too much money in churning out unskilled, debt-ridden, liberal arts graduates. The only way universities might reform themselves, is if people start hiring non college grads. College is not necessary for a majority of jobs that are currently occupied by college grads.

Other than this thought contradicting itself, you need to understand that in the 1300s, universities were places where students paid money to study a range of fields, and, having demonstrated to the faculty their aptitude sufficiently to have a degree bestowed upon them, went on to serve academic, clerical, or professional positions. We're reaching a millennium now of their existence and the basic mechanism, the profit motives and intentions and such, haven't changed. So then the question is, what has changed?
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>>132435723
>someone always has to marry down.
>men willingly marry down but women do not
>raising women to high societal position through affirmative action will collapse society, where as raising men has a positive effect.
woooaaaahhh, you mean feminism and "equality" gimmicks were created to collapse society? what a surprise!
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>>132435723
these educated women, may i be so bold as to ask what the majority of them major in?
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>>132443799
never mind im not interested, kill yourselves
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>>132438683
Ayyy
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>>132442376
what gave me away?
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>>132441259
>Why not shoot for that?
You previous post tells us why that's untenable.

It's more rational to have realistic goals.
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what's beautiful about this is that these fatally selective "educated" cunts will be eliminated from the gene pool and we can count on future generations of women not being narcissistic.
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>>132435723
>educated women
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>>132436580
because its female nature to want a provider. its really not their fault this is just how biology works.
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>>132438651
>manliness, braun, high-T, aggression, competitiveness
>outdated

Let's see how outdated we are when the hordes of mudslimes come knocking at our door.
I don't see bitches trying to get jobs in construction, plumbing, or mechanics. Especially mechanics, I don't see that shit becoming automated anytime soon. Please, do tell, what sort of technological innovation have women come up with?
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>>132440863

There's nothing ironic about it considering men ARE more eligible than the market suggests.

The market is skewed by women's unrealistic perceptions and expectations. In a free economic market, absent of bad loans and other various fuckery (central banking, etc) you're forced to take what you can get for what you can give. You must act rationally by necessity.

The sexual marketplace is different due to various factors, one of which is women's innate irrationality and the inculcation of sexual indiscretion as "empowering" in their youth.
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>>132444079
>we can count on future generations of women not being narcissistic.
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>>132444597
>this
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>>132444425
i also suspect that women are for more unproductive than the market suggests, and their economic value is highly inflated. In a perfect unrestrained market, they'd have no option but to settle earlier on because no employer would ever take them over a guy.
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>>132436723
Where do I go if I want a young conservative housewife?
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>>132440863
That isn't even remotely Ironic. If you were on r9k, might be a different story.
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>>132444847
I guess Utah in the Us?
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>>132435723
If women had not entered the workforce all those men would have jobs. No sympathy.
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>>132435723
wow its almost like feminists/jews plan to destroy the role of the male in the world had some consequences.
but why aren't these women just settling for all the black and brown migrants they love so much?
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>>132444425
>>132444920

>There's nothing ironic about it considering men ARE more eligible than the market suggests.
>The market is skewed by women's unrealistic perceptions and expectations.

OK, let's try this again in 4chan language:

>Women: I can't find a good man!
>Men: That's because you think you're better than you really are!
>Women: Why do you think that?
>Men: Because we're better than you think we are!

Hypergamy or not, it's fair to say this is shaping up to be a two-way street.
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>>132444999
>444999
>444999
The numbers man they're driving me crazy
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>>132444999
>jews

lol jewish women are some of the most horrid offenders when it comes to feminism. Why the fuck would jewish men do this to themselves? Are they "playing both sides"?
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>>132444597

laugh really hard as well
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The bubble will burst, it's partly the reason I decided not to go to university and go into a career instead, far too many people are getting degrees, and the university are letting in just about anyone these days.

I'd bet men are deciding not to go because they realise this, and are opting to get real jobs instead of wasting their time for years in a university.

The women here have also shot themselves in a foot, it's not that they're looking for qualified men, they're looking for more qualified men than them.
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>>132436148
rarely but surely a commie is funny, (you) +1
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>>132435723
>educated women
Bitch if you so smart how come you single
>too smart to get BF
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>>132438651
Women go to college to study nonsense courses like sociology and media studies.

I suggest men have a weekly stroke where we sweep no streets, clean no drains, drive no trains.etc
You women aee so clever,you get on with it, you fuckiing well sort it out.
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>>132437830
Then please enlighten us and tell us about a university's "true purpose", Professor Shill.
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>>132442236
i'd take
heavy smoker,
drinking problem,
fucks only alpha,
and huge denbt...
all the others can die.
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>>132438651
>A woman who is successful does not want a loser dude
yea thats the entire point of the thread and why there is a problem lol
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>>132435723
>roasties with gender studies degrees
>delusional by thinking they're more educated
>obviously their degrees don't help because they still need a man
>don't go to college, let dumb women take out loans they can't take back, hit the wall before paying even half of the loans, go into depression for being a single whore with huge debt
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>>132446971
networking.
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>>132445076

>>Men: Because we're better than you think we are!

They often are though. Your fundamental premise itself is wrong, that being that women are rational and logical in "punching in their weight class" or going for men in their league, as it's called.

Men married down because they had to. They had to because overwhelmingly marry up.
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>>132435723
Haha! There's that feminism for you!
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>>132438953
>These career women are 3s and 4s, and will only settle with a 10.
No, the issue is women are biologically programmed to be attracted to mates either in the same social status or higher. A rich man would gladly marry a poor woman if she supports and loves him, but a rich woman won't marry a poor man just because he'd be faithful and supportive of their child. The real issues here is females want to take masculine gender roles but they don't want males who seek feminine roles and it's creating a huge imbalance in the stability of relationships.
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>>132440441

Gyms would be de facto job centers in your analogy.

qed imo btfo senpai etc etc
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>>132435723
>sample size: 150 women
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>>132435723
The problem is the 'educational status' part; why would it matter if the man you were dating and getting to know had a degree?
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>>132435723
>men of the same calibre
I didnt know we switched back to the caste system. Glad to know class warefare will never stop raging. Thanks feminism!
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Imagine my shock. New Zealand is having it worse.
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>>132435723

tl;dr - no man is "good enough" for a woman, the "requirements" have shifted so far into fantasyland that no man can be "eligible" anymore to be "worthy" of any woman
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>>132435723
When will women learn that to a man being well travelled, educated and career orientated is not a pro for most men and that it screams used goods slut who puts her career before everything else.
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>>132448039
Women want to marry up, no matter how successful they are.
Men were content with a qt housewife.
It's shocking how women suddenly find their options extremely limited when they're blessed with the same success. But hey, they asked for equality, now they have to live with all the cons that equality brings.
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>>132435723
this is why women shouldn't vote and study, muslims have it right

that's why muslims are spreading like a virus, while the "enlightened" west is dying
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>>132441348
>retards getting into power is not likely

Says the man living under President Shortbus...
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>>132440441

>Go to University on the false pretense that it is what it was over 100 years ago when it's complete shit now

Doesn't matter what it was. What matters it what it is.

Go live in Detroit because it was awesome 100 years ago. Let me know how it goes.
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>>132435723
Marry down, cunts. Or stay on the shelf
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>>132448430
kek at filename
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>>132441861
fucking hell bro

my cousin is like this

i hope she doesnt an hero shes too good for some dumb shit like that

but her attitude is so repugnant

god dammit
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>>132435954

It's on the 5th page of http://drudgereport.com/
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hahahaahaha pathetic /pol/ sexually frustrated virgins blaming women for your insecurities
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>>132449090
Shitty b8 m8
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>>132440731
> "There's nothing airy fairy about"

Threw up in my mouth & stopped reading right there. Written by a 12-year old virgin and presented as "good comments."

> don't mind clicking your NoScript half a dozen times

I do, and any website like that is permanently on my blacklist. Nothing posted on any website like that is worth 10 seconds of my time.
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>>132449090
t. European Union

Lol, while both your women and cities are being raped by Akmed.
I LAUGH IN YOUR FACE, HAHAHAHAHA
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>>132448315

Yup. All the traits and traditions which helped White Christian nations thrive are now folding in on themselves and will be what destroys them. What was functional has become dysfunctional.

Islam, as bullshit as it is, will win Europe only because of the minor inconvenience and discomfort of being called "racist" or "Islamophobic". Nothing less than a man, with the determination and charisma of Adolf Hitler combined with the body count of Stalin, and millions of devout followers bordering on cultists, will turn this tide. I do not believe that man will rise. The men range from unaware to aware but apathetic. The European man is now Nietzsche's Last Man. The women are the spoiled vapid jizz jars they've always dreamed of being. Islam will correct both, and do so brutally, but at what cost? It seems that Europe is dead either way, with or without Islam. I suppose Islam will at least give it a new life.

The U.S is in scarcely better shape.
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>>132447314
Basically. Most degrees you can do as a diploma at TAFE in aus and get 2-3 years knocked off your bachelors.

That's 1-2 years less study and a greater chance of getting into work because you have the neccersary skills but none of the stuck up attitude to not want to do a shitty starting job.
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>>132449430
It's fascinating isn't it.
The wealth and peace we create comes back to destroy us more convincingly than any war.
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>>132435723
Tl;dr women slut around until they are 30 so when they want to settle, only loser guys are left.

Gee, that sucks.jpg

T. Only interested in girls up to age 25 (and even then...) because all older women are repulsive.
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>>132435723
giving women the right to work the same jobs as men has removed the time and money needed to raise a child... fuck feminism
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>>132449584
>peace has cost you your strength
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>>132447446
Exactly this, if men and women are earning equal salaries then the women at the top will either have to settle with betas who are ok with being taken care of, or just go childless.
Men like to be the providers
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>>132440766
>if i finish my degree

No. You need at least a Masters on top of that, then own three houses, have a portfolio worth at least $20 million, own your own business with at least 100 employees under you. By the time you are 27. Of course, (you) do all this on a 20 hour work week and spend the rest of the time traveling the world (in your private jet, which you fly yourself because you are Chad the fighter-pilot ace), golfing, patronizing the opera, attending all the highest society dinners & plays & events, the best parties in the best cities, etc.

THEN
> roasties will literally be lining up in a cue for me to impregnate them

Otherwise, (you) are "ineligible" because (you) are inferior, a loser. Your genes are contaminated and broken beyond use, unworthy.

Assuming (you) manage all that and (you) choose a Worthy Roastie to be your waifu, she will divorce (you) when (you) ruin her life and body with 2.5 children, at which point the courts will throw you in the cuckshed and give 95% of your entire net worth to her while (you) get to work 80 hour weeks paying alimony until you're 90 years old while she fucks a string of chads in front of you every night.

tl;dr -- it isn't even worth being "eligible." You're better off if (you) aren't.
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This is what you get when you want to abolish traditional gender roles and have a generation of career women who think they will miss out if it they don't ride the cock carousel in their 20's.

Not to mention the fact that society loses respect for bread winning men so they just decide to not give a fuck and play video games.
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>>132446082
More qualified but also a Chad.
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>>132436692
I'm genuinely amused by this
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>>132449793

>The Jews have cost you your strength.
>Central banking and fighting for the Jew has defeated you.

Jews are like the League of Shadows in Batman. They've been subverting and destroying empires for profit, both monetary and geo-political, for centuries. They always end up being decimated as well. You'd think they'd learn, but they want to force their God's hand, they want to fulfill the prophecies "manually" so to speak.
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>>132435723

>"why can't I find an equal?!?!!?"
>30 year old career women think they have the same mate value as a 30 year old career man.
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I am surprised retarded women think a degree in Psychology, Sociology, and Tard Studies makes them better than a garbage man. A garbage man is superior in morality and intellect than those shit majors.
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>>132436692

lmfao
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>>132449584
Yeap. That's why humans are not perfect and we will be extinct in 1,000-5,000 years.

To think that dinosaurs who lived for tens of millions of years are more perfect than we are.
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>>132450630
Hey now, all the greats in Psychology are men.

It's a real subject, but sadly not enough intelligent people go into it. Social Psychology is retarded though, I'll give you that.
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>>132441861
It is going to be great.
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>>132449430
From your pic
>This meant that if the married couple did not have the means to take care of their offspring, they were not going to reproduce like rats.
That doesn't seem to be the case in Africa ?
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>>132435723
>eligible men
Do they define this?
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>>132450683
The pendulum is going to swing back, and when it does we'll have this failed experiment to point to to prevent it from swinging this far again.
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>>132451350
Higher social status.
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>>132435723
>female graduates vastly outnumbering males in in many countries
I don't think we should count degrees in "Ethiopian Hand Drumming" or "Gender Studies" or "Emotional History" as education
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>>132435723
Cunts don't want to marry down even on the edge of their reproductive age and that's somehow males fault.
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>>132451826
traditional social status is fucked right now anyways since boomers won't retire and the world is more globalized.
Just that much harder to make a name for yourself.
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>gen x genocide

the feminists killed off the men and now beg to have babies
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>>132452676

Feminists killed their value to men. Men sidestepped feminists.
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>>132438651
Brawn wasn't the only thing that men developed, they have faster reflexes and decision making capabilities which translate to more competent abilities outside the kitchen. Stay made fucking cat lady

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4456887/
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>The study led by Yale University, involved interviews with 150 women undergoing egg freezing at eight clinics.
i love you retards but it's bad practice to derive society commentary from an undergrad-tier psyche study done at a fucking university of all places. this article is just as retarded for claiming anything as the people are who take it seriously
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>>132435723
More women might be grads, but they graduate with fucking meme degrees.

What good is a uni grad, if they work at Starbucks their entire life with their snowflake degree about shit that doesn't matter or produce revenue outside of highly skilled experts?
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>>132450040
So pimps are beta?
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>>132440863
just because you get a master's in gender studies doesn't entitle you to marry elon musk. There are tons of men out there who forewent higher education and are making a better living than these cunts doing something like a trade but because they're "uneducated" these frigid useless sacks of shit won't give them the time if day. I can't wait until these bitches finally just start killing themselves.
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>>132445158
Peer pressure.
If you look at Woody Allen, this is how Jewish men wish to live: banging young European actresses and models, not screeching harpies that their wives become after 30.
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>>132441403
>bitches need to marry down then
>Men have been doing it for 1000's of years you dumb sluts.

do you understand how biology works?

the article was correct, there IS a shortage of eligible men, because the gender balance has been upset by a safe technological society

- excess of healthy males (before they died in warfare or aquiring resources)

- work for women (courtesy of the computer, aircon, personal motor car, street lighting, internet etc)

The article was more correct and rational than 90% of "redpilled" responses in this thread
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I feel sorry for every woman over 30 not married. it's literally impossible at this point.
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>>132447198
Except that now, not being a loser is not enough.
Women were lured into wanting only top CEO with model looks and body of Greek god, and not settling for anything lesser than that.

They would not look at their colleagues of same rank, they would consider their boss, but he is already taken and obviously, she can do better than that. And they despise anyone of lower rank.
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>>132454373
nooe, sorry. the men doing the real work that keep society running (construction, mining, oilfield work, truckers etc) while cunts doing meme jobs like teaching kindergarten or writing list articles for buzzfeed consider them ineligable because they didn't waste their getting a bachelors in a worthless field of study and aren't as "educated" ? don't make me laugh. women are spoiled rotten and need to be put back in their place. they're literally ruining society at this point
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>>132438651

You do realize that most "high status" women's work is due to massive wealth redistribution and social engineering, right?

Government, pink/white-collar set-asides, non-profits, etc.
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>>132439742
What'd the cunt do? Mods took him down
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>>132441259
married men are only so "happy" because they lump the divorced men in the other side.

Simple statistical trickery
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>>132435723
>In recent decades, the gender balance at British universities has tipped dramatically. In 1985, 45 per cent of UK students were female, but by 2000, 54 per cent were women. This group, now in their late 30s, is finding it harder to find a man of equal status, fertility experts said. And the trend is set to steepen in future generations, they warned, with nearly six in ten current students female.

And still, Imperial College, the UK's #1 STEM school, is just 40% female.
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>>132451119
>That doesn't seem to be the case in Africa?
Because that applies to civilized people, most Africans are still mostly tribal people.
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>>132436919
Lucky bastard.
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>>132449430
i don't agree with everything in that text

marriage is not for "keeping the population in check" and preventing people from "breeding like rats". Contraception is a recent invention, people back then did indeed "breed like rats" and that's a good thing, that's how it should be
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>>132456480
>the UK's #1 STEM school
*#3

#4 - #5 in some fields
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>>132441023
>university lectures like JBP's

Sure, e-learning works great for meme-studies like (((psychology)))
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>>132457519
works even better for everything math related
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>>132435723
>t. bitter beta
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>>132435723
To be fair, we all said what would happen when you do this sort of thing with gender roles. Now I am not surprised at all that this sort of dilemma is happening.
>All the successful men marry less successful women with morals
>Successful women still can't find even "equally" successful men
Remember: EQUALITY IS A FALSE GOD
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>>132448319
>artist unironically used the "horn on thumb" Iguanadon
>making a comic about ignorant people
>>
>we need equality!
>why can't I marry up?!
>>
>most men these days are obese manchildren obsessed with videogames and plastic crap
>pol is shocked that women dont want to marry these type of men
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>>132449638
>making out any woman under 25 would want you and your bong genes

kek.jpeg
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>>132442686
>not wanting to marry this makes you a feminist harpie

hmm....
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>>132440731

My very first teacher at school (4 years old) outright hated boys. The parents all hated her and she was shit. Years later, she was still there and even taught my brother. She'd improved a bit, but how the fuck she was even allowed to teach was beyond me.
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>>132435723
Just like the article said. It's not men problem because there are younger, fertile women. It's the problem of women that have hit the wall.

They have made their bed now they have to lay in it.

Oh and freezing their eggs is not a magic wand either. It's not as reliable method as they think. Also if it is succesfull they are in their late 30s, prolly waiting till like 40 to try on their own. Raising kid(s) when you are 40/50 by yourself will be a fucking nightmare. Of course, they will prolly use day care, babysitters, etc. But then what is the fucking point of having a child when other people are parents for them and they only know you as a sponsor they see from time to time. Their memories from childhood will be those of babysitters and some strangers caring for them.

The great legacy of feminazism.
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>>132459614
Well paid, high value men (doctors, engineers etc) don't want a "successful" woman - a woman who isn't going to cook, clean the house, look after the children and provide sex every night. No man pulling 100 K a year wants to have to cook his own breakfast and dinner because his wife works 8-8 at the office, clean his own living room because his wife is busy sending emails and calling clients or pay someone to pick up his kids from school because his cunt wife wants to work 7 days a week.

Successful woman =/= good wife.
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>>132459593
no successful non-homosex male wants to marry a man. a career whore is just a man with no ballzack and a huge gaping stankin hole instead
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>>132459825
you wot m8?!
you sound like a bitter cuck.
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Ayo bitch I was educated on these here streets. Dats a phd in street knowledge bitch. You prob got a bachelors in communications. My phd in pharmaceutical distribution my g. Talmbout I Ain't good enough fo yo educated ass
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>>132459593
Well, if you look like tis, you do not have a lot of options, m'lady.
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>>132459705
Bread/
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>>132460102
most women dont look like that tho, and that wasnt my point. if you are a manchild women dont want you.
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>>132436473
A most exquisite pepe
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Nobody except lesbians gives a damn about their eggs. They chose their feminist path in life. Men will find a nubile younger woman who will appreciate gestating our posterity.
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>>132460081
> phd in pharmaceutical distribution
Made me laugh, have a you.
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Fucking awesome.
Not only will they die alone, their progeny will be grown to be slaves.

What a shame.
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>>132460459
And if you're a skank men won't want to marry you.
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>>132460865
yeah and? i know this which i why i dont have sex until after marriage

but stay mad you bitter manchild kek, i clearly touched a nerve.
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>>132439683
>>132456341
:3
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>>132435723
They have unreal expectations, I have known a few women like these.
>fuck left and right through university
>get a degree
>have a formal relationship for some years
>start working
>end relationship
Now you have +30 and have a degree and work but you're alone because you think you're still in your pirme.
Nope, now is the time for -20 girls to fuck left and right, you are out of the sex market.
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This is a classic case of what I like to call "gender myopia", think that because something turns you personally on, it will also turn on the opposite sex.

Lots of women think they are valuable relationship material (and thus deserve a great guy) because they are highly educated. But men generally don't care about a woman's education. They care about her looks and youth, and maybe submissiveness. They think this because women are actually more attracted to a highly educated guy...

It works the other way too when men send dickpics to women, thinking it will turn them on because men get turned on by nudes. In any case, I can't help but smile when I read articles like this, as if women are completely unable to date a man with a lower social status than her; well maybe it hadn't been the best idea to pursue more social status then.. If you're not willing to date down, don't try to go to the top.

They have a useless degree in gender studies and think they're now entitled to a CEO who makes 200k per year. It's hilarious - get yourself out of the gene pool asap and make room for the young, submissive, traditional girls please.
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>>132435723
It's because these women didn't read /pol/ and therefore didn't know that sexual freedom leads to degeneracy among women.
It's their own fault for falling for the jew. Had they listened and simply been non-degenerate, they would have a husband by now.
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>>132436723
>So do what men do: marry down.
It's hilarious how they are completely unaware that this is even a possibility. When men had 90% of the masters degrees no one gave a fuck there was a "shortage of similarly educated women."
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>>132435723
>Go to business school
>Every single one of the male high achievers is hooked by the third semester
>It's always some chick that does one course a semester and drops out after they marry
Gee, I wonder why old hags can't find any guy.
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>>132435723
I'm glad this is happening, those women are robots that only see a curriculum instead of a person, they are not suitable to raise a children, they don't have what is necessary to be mothers. Good thing this kind of women will just naturally die out.

On the other hand in about 20 years the trend will shift and having a women be the most valuable in the relationship will be the new norm.
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>>132461368
maybe you can extend this to men too who go about fucking whores but then want a virgin wife.

i dont want to marry an std factory, keep it in your pants whore.
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>>132461309
You are right about gender myopia but dick picks do turn quite a lot of women on.

I know this from personal experience, the last girl I dated loved dick pics.
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>>132461309
>submissiveness
Not really, most men want just sweet girls, stop bitching over everything for a minute and maybe someone will pay you attention.
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>>132461577
look. your gaping stank hole isnt a prized commodity. my feet smell better than you
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>>132461265
Fucking this.
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>>132461309
>"gender myopia"
Good post. I was just thinking about this yesterday.
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>>132446923

Exactly.

>>132455276

Exactly.

Women are so completely and utterly beyond deluded about their worth and abilities. Always remember that to this day a single house does not stand that was built exclusively by a group of women.
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>>132436148
>educated
>refugee
Behold Europe
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>>132435723

>A dearth of marriageable men

Hahaha these women CHOSE the childless life of misery and cats over family and now they're complaining? Fuck you.
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>>132450683
Nah, we won't be going extinct. It's true that our peace and wealth creates decadence and a downfall of civilization, but it's a cycle that repeats itself over and over again.
Humanity won't be going extinct because of it.
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>>132435723
kek, they made the wrong choices, they're unfit
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>>132461577
90% of women sleep with 10% of men
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>>132435723

>Experts said the research bust the myth that “selfish career women” were choosing to out their fertility on ice in a bid to put their careers first.


>In 1985, 45 per cent of UK students were female, but by 2000, 54 per cent were women. This group, now in their late 30s, is finding it harder to find a man of equal status, fertility experts said. And the trend is set to steepen in future generations, they warned, with nearly six in ten current students female.

One of these is not like the other. If it wasnt a myth that women were selfish then why wasn't it an issue for men when they dominated universities?
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>>132446082
>they're looking for more qualified men than them.
more qualified than they think they are
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>>132461862
>being this much of a triggered cunt

sorry brony, no woman wants you and your tiny dick, and you would know all about horribl smells as your pony plushes are cum stained.

women like us want good christian men, not faild abortions like you. also that flag really suits you horse fucker.
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>>132462155
Only in Sweden
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>>132462155
you seriously tell me 90% of men are virgins or havent slept around? no bro.
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>>132436316
oh yeah, because it's the white people who are dumb as shit and breed like rabbits, right.
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>>132461583
Perhaps I should've said unsolicited dick picks outside of a sexual relationship. Lord knows attractive females receive dick picks from strangers on a regular basis.

Typical "nice guy" behavior is another example of male gender myopia. Men would like a female to be nice, agreeable, supportive. But we all know where nice guys finish of course.
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>>132462213
post gaping stankhole or gtfo
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>>132461577
I agree, but the stats show that men who had 20+ partners still CAN have marriages that don't end in divorce (although the risk of a divorce is twice as high ... and it's degenerate aswell)
Women in the family growth study, who had 20+ partners before marriage had a 0% chance of having a marriage that didn't end in divorce. There was actually not a single woman. Not ONE who had a successfull marriage with 20+ sexual partners.
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Another excuse of roasties who rode the cock carousel and now nobody wants them ahaha so they put their eggs thinking THAT Maybe at 50 they find someone , and thry will have younger eggs . Also "educated" probably gender studies or some shit
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>>132436692
that's my keyword, time to dump my 'women' folder
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>>132461309
Well put faggot.
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This is exactly what these fucking bitches deserve.
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>>132436538
Kek
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>>132462545
this is nature doing the beta uprising for us betas
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>>132440614
In Australia, if you're an alpha male tradie, you make a killing
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>>132462263
90% of men fight to marry 10% of women
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>>132462366
>he has no argument so the brony resorts to stupid name calling

kek stay mad, pic related, its you.
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>>132462665
No, the 80/20 rule (top 20% of men get the top 80% of women) will simply polarize further to eventually become the 99/1 rule (at least in theory.)

Women would rather share a winner than own a loser.
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>>132462497
>cock carousel
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>>132462731
freeze (liquid nitrogen) yourself old cumrag
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>>132435723
The education system in its current form in incompatible with male behaviour and learning patterns. The system is designed around the feminine ideal behaviour of obedience and booksmarts. The most fertile men will likely drop out while the effeminate and infertile men will fit the female mold. This has nothing to do with women freezing their shitty eggs. They are career cunts and nothing more. They aren't serious about having children because the educational status of males is irrelevant beyond income earnings.
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>>132462368
my point still stands tho, there would be more virgin women if less men were not degenerates.

i blame popular culture and the jews tricks desu.
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>>132435723
lel, everything to please women

they never talk of personal responsibilities to women, only rights and freedom

now its mens fault because men arent good enough for womyn who underperform compared to men anyway
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>>132435723
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surplus_women#Government_response

in the past surplus women were sent to colonies

today surplus women can be sent to kenia, nigeria, burundi, kongo, egypt, iraq, saudi arabia etc
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>>132462710
not here.

>>132462831
lol im not your mother mr failed abortion brony.
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>>132462665
Speak for yourself faggot, I just deadlifted 420 lbs as a warm up.
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>>132462844
women simply dont want a man who have less money then she does because no matter how rich she is biology demands that she find a provider who has more then she does. this is why in every society it is the man who inherit the wealth, job and title, not the women.
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>>132435723
Imagine if guys were saying "I can't find an educated woman! Look at all these ineligible dumbshit broads!"? The backlash!
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>>132462889
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>>132461583
True but most women don't want dick pics from any Joe fucking Schmo. We on the other hand would love a nice pussy pic from some random chick we just met two seconds ago. It would explain why so many guys can't wait to send a nice high quality close up of their wood.
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>>132462947
most women share the same handful of guys. thats why they hate men because they all had sex with the same guy
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>>132460102
She says she was raped as a virgin. What a good speaker for women. One that's damaged goods.
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>>132439683
Why not just admit you're a faggot mgtow kike.
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>>132463011
yeah but then pol complains about women working.

if you want a traditional woman and family then you have to be able to afford it. you guys need to make your mindup,you cant have it both ways.
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>>132463042
this isnt feminism at this point its self hating males who do everything to prop up women regardless of consequences
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>>132462844
> career cunts
Let me disprove an explicitly studied point made in the article with a crass generalization
>pol
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>>132463110
dont know what women YOU hang out with but thats not the case here.

i wouldnt sleep with a man before marriage and i certainly wouldnt marry one i know a friend has banged, ew.

>>132463115
another bitter cuck i see.
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>>132463167
mentally ill feminist spotted

all the research and studies show it

women pick partners across and up

you want it all and more, youre just plain retarded, deluded, you lie to yourself, and ask men to help you delude yourself more
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>>132448202
let me just break this echo chamber, the more educated a women is the more likely they are to be married. In fact, the marriage rate for educated white women and white men are the same as in the 50's.
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>>132463244
why do you keep lying to yourself
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>>132463295
heres the link https://www.brookings.edu/blog/social-mobility-memos/2016/08/19/the-most-educated-women-are-the-most-likely-to-be-married/
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>>132462954
>fork lifting your 500lb fatass out of the toilet
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>>132463295
define educated because we can also see that divorce rates have gone up ever since females were given enless freedom and rights
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>>132463167
western society encourage females high income earners. this effectively split the male income in half. a man used to be able to provide for a family on one income but because society want women in the workforce salary has been split in half to force women to work. its also the stated goal of agenda 2030 to promote women working instead of having children to reduce climate change
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>>132462954
congrats at picking yourself up off the floor, fatty

now go milk your tits so your shirt stays dry
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>university is 60% female (at least)
>none of them will even talk to me
>complain about tfw no bf

serves them right heheheh
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>>132463171
how do self hating males prop up women?! most men these days are manchildren this is the problem, and what the article is talking about.

a lot of men dont want children these days and the ones that do are mentally children themselves and dont know anything about responsibility.

i do wish for the days where traditional gender roles were not taboo and men providing for their families were not considered "pussy whipped" by jealous cucks who whack it to hentai.
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>>132462947
t. paki ahmeds groomed cumrag
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>>132463174
Easy there. I know you like coalburners and everything but this is pol. Show some respect and give him an answer.
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>>132463262
so true
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>>132463314
In the past, highly-educated women faced an unenviable choice between accepting a patriarchal marriage

that is one bullshit feminism oriented study

basically the people who made this study are the same type of people who disregard IQ testing as being outdated patriarchal pratices that need to be gotten rid of

your study is full of it
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>>132463262
>>132463298
i literally said im a traditional woman not a feminst, you are clearly a manchild who cannot accept responsibilies, stay bitter frenchie. im sure you'll be bred out of existence when the refugess take all your women.
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>>132463345
Educated as in the more years spent in College. Here is a pew research study that says educated women are also less likely to be divorced than uneducated women http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/12/04/education-and-marriage/
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>>132463450
>most men these days are manchildren
buttblasted feminist cunt detected


you think you can order a man around today like in the 20's?

no you cant you stupid cunt, there is this thing called freedom, and the only thing females are taught in todays society is:

1 - freedom
2 - rights


and nothing else
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>>132435723
>similar status
>implying education can make a woman more attractive
>implying age and looks don't determine female SMV
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>>132463586
you say you are a traditional woman. you represent about 10% of the women.

why do you argue when we say 90% of women sleep with 10% of men if you are the 10% of traditional women who chose not to sleep around before marriage?

you must be aware that you are not the majority but you still try to win against an argument you already agree with
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>>132444877
all the fucking thots are always quoting him as some sort of cuck who put pussy on a pedestal, but then I read this from him... Is this true?
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>>132463401
again this was done in line because women who want men to provide for them and their families are called "gold diggers". its the same solution, if you want a traditional women dont stigmatise stay at home mums. if you dont then dont complain about women working. we cant live on air alone and neither can children.
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>>132463586
you pretend to be traditional in a post modernist society, where rights and freedom is the motto, and where responsibility is a forgotten duty

telling men who have adapted to this post modernist world to behave like its the traditional times is like asking a horse to be faster than a car today

men simply can not compete against the state who is the one entity financing all this post modernist feminist bullshit
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>>132463488
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>>132443413
As a builder you have the knowledge to build your own house one day, every womans dream, yet they don't have the foresight to see this is the case. either that or they truely do see builders as their slaves that they and their highly educated partners will employ to build there dream house, i guess it depends on the woman and how much of a narcissistic cunt she is.
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Be woman,
Want equality
Excel at school
Excel at Uni
Excel in career
Take handsome yet underachieving eye-candy man
Want baby
Have baby
===
Fucked.
===

> "Wahhhh, all the other mums get to spend time with mini-anons, I have to work because you anon, are an under-achieving pleb"

-

You reap what you sow, fem-anons.
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>>132463595
Funny thing about having a good job that pays well from a good higher education is that money makes you fear divorce. Many men in their 40s that I know who are not married will never marry because they don't want to lose the many millions they made for years of hard work. They don't want to lose the life time of money to a woman who has never been faithful in their entire life. It's like betting half of your money (more likely 3/4) on an old horse that has failed 5 or more times at winning the Kentucky Derby. Men are not that stupid.
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>>132463662
>t. manchild

kek what are you sperging about you triggered cunt? aw did the idea of refugees being more manly than you give you flashbacks sucks to be you michelle, but please keep sperging out its hilarious.
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>>132463748
That's not a woman. It's some random shitposter that all of you fags keep feeding.
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>>132463958
top kek post modernist deluded cunt
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>>132463748
because i think its more than 10% of men, im not arguing in favour of the women. its just i see a lot of degenerate men who dont want the traditional lifestyle. again i think this is also to do with atheism, we used to be a christian nation, but most men i meet are atheists. ironically they still want some tho lol, but im not a degenerate.
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>>132436692
If you're dividing feminism by reality, the dividend is feminism. The quotient is misery.
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>>132463788
any person can survive on a dollar per day. the rest is just manipulation of currency to control society. nobody call women who want children and a family gold diggers. they are called uneducated white trash. gold diggers want a rich man and an easy life but no children and are considered role models in mainstream media.
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>>132463792
>you pretend to be traditional in a post modernist society

lol why are you so mad? why do you think i am pretending? you cannot complain about women not being traditional but then give a pass to men. if there were more traditional men you would have more traditional women, you are cleary a triggered hypocrite who doesnt understand how these things work.
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>Degree in genetics
>Run a science based manufacturing company
>Personal income of >~£300,000

Still no gf lol. Im only 5'10 and mild attractiveness, why settle for me when roasties can hold out for the superior version of me via online dating.

Except it won't ever happen, but that doesn't seem to stop anyone.
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>>132464048
top kek cucked tiny dick degenerate frenchie
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>>132436929
Poor children.
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>>132444079
this, as usual it's a problem that solves itself when a new evolutionary pressure is introduced. Same with fatties.
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>>132464178
>nobody call women who want children and a family gold diggers.
they do over here, all the time if you want to be a stay at home mum.

>any person can survive on a dollar per day.
you are clearly an idiot or your country gives you free money. over here in the uk you cant do that. while i say i wouldnt care about marrying a rich person ( i really dont) you dont realise how much it costs to look after a child.
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>>132435723
>A dearth of marriagable men
Ooh look at that, instantly moved the blame somewhere else, but it highlights the problem which is that women have unrealistic expectations for what they want in a husband, which isn't to say that the top-tier men don't exist, they do and always will, but most of these unmarried and childless loser women don't recognise their position in society, which is average or below average, and they won't be able to attract the best men to them. It's an interesting situation and if you want to debate why women have developed what you could describe as an "inflated sense of self-worth" in the space of a couple of generations, that's probably a far more valid and important topic to discuss than to wonder "why men aren't good enough for me :((((" I think it's very likely that the proliferation of slut culture has led to this disconnect to reality.
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>>132439683
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>>132463951
And in some states you don't even need to get married for you to have to pay alimony, some states namely Utah, Tennessee and West Virginia will force you to pay spousal support for just living together for a period of time. West Virginia is the worst because they allow for permanent spousal support.
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>>132462844
you are wrong

the real problems are manipulations with debt, tariffs, taxes and currency

people (even women and gay) can do whatever they want IF they cant take consequences.

but state forces people to pay for their shit, somebody will need to pay for this career meme, because in most cases they do low productive work. later in their life their home will be falling apart and they will be ill and lonely. they will demand GIBS. all their income they will spend on jewish goods and services. they will die with zero wealth. no wealth will be inherited. etc. perfect cattle for milking and ponzi begging

80% of people (even man) will achive nothing in their career anyway.

nobody needs old women with career meme, it is a burden^burden.
man needs good young woman to make children or he can order surrogate mother in clinic or any other option

jews (and commie ) cripple and harm people and socium because they are anceint parasites that worship satan

market will fix itself
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>>132464498
kek.
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>>132463662
1 - freedoms
2 - hating toxic masculinity
3 - entitlement
4 - carefree life
5 - not prioritizing what you want in life
6 - actively participating in feminism in college
7 - fucking 5 or more men and partying
8 - Resenting men and calling them manchild
9 - having to freeze your egg as if any man would dare want a ice baby
10 - calling men misogynistic for disagreeing with you. Oh wait. That was number 1.
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>>132464657
>2 - hating toxic masculinity
do you even know what toxic masculinity is?
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>>132464420
>over here in the uk you cant do that
That's absolute horseshit. Our country pays a metric fuckton to people in child benefit, working tax credits, housing benefits, income support, etc. and the lion's share of it goes to mothers.
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>>132464420
im saying its made impossible by the government because they dont want stay at home mothers. in most of the world people survive on a dollar per day. thats why they call us the 1% or the rich world. you would still be able to survive on a dollar per day if it werent for manipulation.

look at agenda2030 pdf and search "women" for proof of manipulation. its all about making women work instead of having children and families

https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/21252030%20Agenda%20for%20Sustainable%20Development%20web.pdf
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>>132464657
>ice baby
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>>132464831
>toxic masculinity
A buzzword
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>>132464831
Toxic masculinity is the patriarchy which was a social, economic, and political system put in place by the male ruling classes to ensure that every woman got a man who made vows to legally, morally, physically, and spiritually be devoted to her (and vice-versa) which women decided they didn't like at all because they much prefer antidepressants, frozen eggs, and suicide.
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>>132435723
Explain this shit. How the fuck can women claim that men earn more and still complain they can't find a guy who's not "beneath" them?
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>>132463958
>the idea of refugees being more manly

>fails to build strong, prosperous society
>fails to stand and fight for his own country
>fails to support their family with their own work in one of the most developed countries in the word, entire life on welfare
or
>leaves his family in the middle of war / collapsing society following some rich jew instructions
>gives his own 10 yo daughter to get raped by older uncles, then sells her to marry some old ugly pig
>raises his own sons, his own blood - to get brainwashed by some goatfucking, stinky, fat monk and blow themselves up for sick goatfucker amusement

Very, fucking manly.
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>>132464136
Yeah, and a remainder full of NEETs
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>>132439683

Archive?
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>>132460011
look gaping stankhole

Because a marriage works best that way. Obviously she loses respect for you if she brings home the bacon and you do the feminine shit. The other option is marrying a career woman and splitting the chores. Fuck that man. Especially once you have kids, your free time is fucking gone. You'll be lucky to not fall asleep within 5 mins of your ass finally sitting on the couch after the kids went to sleep. On the flipside, if the wife takes care of the household shit while you work, you both have free time in the evenings and weekends to spend time as a family. My wife quit working around the same time she popped out our son and never wants to go back to working because things are so much easier with her at home even with a kid now as compared to when we were childless and both working.
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>>132435723
Fuck (((feminism))) and fuck womyn!
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>>132465065
Its the beginning degradation of how female see male that sends them to the next numbers. This thread is the end degradation of how men see women. Do you fucking understand now?
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>>132460011
Fuck you stankhole, I'm a traditionalist and won't allow britwats like you to destroy the western nuclear family and install the "Nu-family" where both parents are careerists with sexually confused kids who kill themselves/OD on heroin at 16. Just look at females self reported happiness levels since the 50s and the amount of cunts on antidepressants nowadays, clearly (((careerism))) is the cause.
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>>132463575
>your study is full of it
I didn't even bother reading it. The title screams (((horseshit)))
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>>132465023
exactly

>>132465065
see above

>>132465185
>doesnt know the context of the comment so goes on a sperge

well its clear to see who the smart men are and the dumb men are in this thread.
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>>132464420
>>132465555
freeze yourself cumrag
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>>132465234
>1 post by this id

changing your id doesnt hide the fact your the same triggered cunt whos posted under 3 different ips here.

also i agreed, i would like to be a stay at home mother, im a traditionalist so maybe instead of being a triggered cunt actually read posts and not make yourself not look like a retard by getting angry at people WHO AGREE WITH YOU.
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>>132465457
No, no I don't, try speaking English rather than gibberish and I might.
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>>132465716
>cumrag wants a traditional white male
you dont deserve a white male

go fuck back to your paki groom
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>>132465716

Marry me then roastie, im 31 and make ~£300,000 a year. All I really want is a good wife and to start a family.
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>>132465863
Take your Newspeak and fuck off. Toxic Feminism is the route of all problems. What is toxic feminism? It's people like you who keep shilling for a perfect world that doesn't exist. Take your ideas about the patriarchy and shove them right back up your ass where you found them.
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>>132465988
>1 post by this id
>this little boy is still mad no one wants his button dick

kek you are not a white man you are an abomination, your dad should have pulled out kek.
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>>132459825
>>132459705
this

that's what your wife should do, as per the western nuclear family; I'm making the money, putting the food on the table and keeping a roof above our heads - my wife is taking care of everything else. "Buy your wife things" - buying your wife gifts on the reg is cucked af, never buy your wife shit for no reason.
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>>132460459

> if you are a manchild women dont want you.

the fuckboy phenomenon says otherwise.
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>>132466081
>this is why britslags are freezing and offing themselves
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>>132465555
The fact it's a buzzword and doesn't really mean anything doesn't change that women are taught to hate it, it just means that the end-result is women are given free reign to pick and choose what it means allowing them to hate any masculine aspect and feel justified about it. This is what killed traditionalism in the first place.
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>>132466044
kek not if you call me roastie, what job do you do? also how many kids you want?
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History is repeating itself, the lessons of history have been completely ignored, and even mocked.

If you think shit is bad now wait another 2 to 3 years when the Genx/Millenials (both men and woman) start offing themselves in droves. Suicide will reach epidemic levels, expect to see it covered in mainstream media (if they are even still around)

Think about how many people you see participating in this corrupt as shit rat race, all those faces, now imagine about 30 - 50% of them offing themselves within that time frame.

And while whites are too depressed to not kill themselves and reproduce, Ahmed and Tyrone are more then willing to reproduce with their 3 wives/rape victims. What do people think is going to happen when these shit skins outnumber us in our own homelands?

This shit is a ticking time bomb, a looming Demographic crises, and it will mean the end of western civilization as we know it.

If you plan on sticking around to witness the shit show, i would suggest focusing the next couple of years preparing for it all to come crashing down, stock up on supplies and ammo, and be prepared for one hell of a closing act.

prepare for dark days ahead.
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>>132465716
Timestamp. Now. It doesn't have to be lewd. Prove you're female.
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>>132465555
>doesnt know the context of the comment so goes on a sperge
>can't recognize which argument is being attacked
>thinks personally and binary, for or against
Where have I attacked the entire thread contex?

>well its clear to see who the smart men are and the dumb men are in this thread.
shitty sophistry is shitty, have you copypasted it from "Erisstic for dummies!" examples page?
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>>132466174
when i say manchild i mean like bronies and the like.

>>132466192
you wish child, it would make you feel better about why no one wants to touch your little mushroom dick.

>>132466204
again thats not what toxic masculity means, you need to do your research, it doesnt mean hating mascuilinity.
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>>132466060
You've just become even more confusing. What part of my post was shilling for a perfect world that doesn't exist? What part of it was feminist? At what point did I say the patriarchy (which objectively did (emphasis on the word did) exist) was a bad thing? I fear you're confusing me with the uppity slag poster.
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>>132460951
If you're serious then you'll likely have your pick of high status males
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>>132466220
I run my own business, which is why I can sit around drinking on coffee and shitposting on pol in the mornings. Have to go in now to deal with something.

Minimum of 2, I think I'd prefer 3. Maybe more depending on how it goes, money is no issue for me.
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>>132466406
Then explain, in your own words, the significance of the buzzword.
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>>132461862
>feet

They smell a lot worse than they look.

imagine bottle stored in a warm, damp, area with no exposure to light, having mixture of shit, urine, menstruation, vaginal discharges, and festering bacteria.

bitches are glorified toilets

And note that their menstrual blood does not smell like blood, it is just really bad.
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>>132466390
you went on a rant about refugees thinking i was somehow speaking in favour of them and went on a sperge, its embarassing if i have to tell you what you are doing, you should know what you are doing idiot. stay mad, faggot.
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>>132465457
no, it is real life

we return to new old type of capitalism
women are divided by quality of their body (health, beauty and fertility) and their family background (class, family wealth etc)

woman "career first " meme in this case is shit. because woman from lower class will lose their valuable "body" (the only thing they will have in 95% cases), woman from upper classes will govern her anyway in most cases.
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>>132466414
See, you don't care. I know this. Why else you be here? To either shill or mock people. You're a troll. One not even worth the time of day to converse with.
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>>132466482
dude i live in the uk, you got to be fucking joking. too many blacks and chavs and inbred whites where i am, im thinking of moving to another country.
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>>132466521
it refers to how certain ideas hurt men, it doesnt mean all masculinity is bad. like how men hate on manlets, given how many manlets frequent the board you would think they would support this.
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>>132466615
You're right, I'm asking you to clarify your position so I can better understand and make sense of what you're trying to say and that proves that I don't care and I'm just a troll.

Batten down the hatches lads, it's officially summer.
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>>132466635
fuck off we are full british slags
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>>132466635
Ha. Move away from your problems, whitey. Multiculturalism at its pinnacle form.
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>>132466812
kek like i would want to go to the shithole which is israhell where i'll most likely get blown up by a bunch of 3rd world idiots.
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>>132460951
Fuck waiting until marriage before having sex with a woman. How do I know she doesn't shit herself every time she has an orgasm? I'd prefer someone who knows her way around a dick.
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>>132466288
>the lessons of history have been completely ignored, and even mocked
It always has and always will be that way. Humans in general are fucking arrogant and that arrogance will eventually cause our extinction.
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>>132466743
Women hate manlets more than men have ever hated manlets. Go browse any kind of dating site, over half of the women will mention height. The sole reason men berate manlets is because they typically get less chances with women, which is the crux of the insult.
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>>132467029
>How do I know she doesn't shit herself every time she has an orgasm?

man you are fucking dumb if you believe this happens kek.
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>>132467080
well i dont.
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>>132466762
If you can't see the jabs I'm making at you and all you do is say you're confused then I have no other words to say. Like you said. Woman rather not live in a patriarchy. I rather now live in a world with people who don't understand that you can't understand because you're too busy talking about summer life. As if it's relevant to me. Can you clarify how this feeling of settling down young is so vile to people like you?
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>>132467156
I'm sure you believe that but it's unlikely to actually be true, if there were two men identical in every way but one was taller (within reason) you'd go for the taller man instinctively regardless of whether you consciously believe it to be a factor in a discussion on the internet. There's an entire history of evidence and research on the subject of human attraction available.
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>>132467085
I was using an extreme example for the sake of comedy to make my point. You're an American on holiday.
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>>132467250
The feeling of settling down young is not at all vile to me. Humans are designed to do exactly that and I haven't once suggested otherwise. This is why I'm confused, you think I'm saying things that I'm not saying.
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>>132467445
>my jokes are shit its your fault you dont laugh

fucking kangaroos

>>132467344
nope, if the guy is closer to my height kissing is easier :)
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>>132467445
Fuck you, outback nigger
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>>132467533
You don't want a guy close to your height who's easy to kiss, though, you want a guy you need to reach up to because that makes you feel more secure in him. Welcome to evolution.
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>>132467533
Yeah and you're fucking your cousin, Abdul.
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>>132467533
i would fuck you. i really would
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>>132467649
I'll have you know I identify as a Great Barrier Retard.
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>>132459705
>No man pulling 100 K a year wants to have to cook his own breakfast and dinner because his wife works 8-8 at the office
This precisely.
I'm in that tax bracket, and my wife has a law degree. She's a smart, capable person in her own right. When we got together it was decided she'd raise the kids, I'd work. Her job was ensuring the house I provided was a home, and something I looked forward to coming back to. In return, I ensured that she and our children would not have significant economic hardship. Nowhere in there was a "oh, and you should work 12 hours days as a lawyer for grrrlPOWER points..."
This has been the arrangement between men and women for time immemorial. And it worked absolutely fine for us - why anyone thought it was a good idea to fuck with this recipe is beyond me.
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>>132467706
no, YOU clearly want that in a man, not me. good luck to you.

>>132467722
>says the assholes whos descended from our criminals

yeah and you raping your kids, clive.
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also 5 foot 3 is the perfect height for a man. if you dont think this you gay.
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