/valhalla general/ Daily reminder Jesus Christ became a globalist

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>>132397811

THOR Getting His Own Theme Park - In NORWAY
https://www.newsarama.com/33597-thor-getting-his-own-theme-park-in-norway.html


Norway's Largest Theme Park Will Be the 'Viking Capital of the World'
http://www.travelandleisure.com/attractions/amusement-parks/norway-viking-theme-park


Viking Theme Park To Open In Norway
https://youtu.be/RVW_Jpq--XA

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>>132397811
Vikings vs ISIS - What's the difference

The Viking's urge to kill is probably exaggerated in this and other gory eyewitness accounts. The warriors had no interest of sending more than necessary to death, people were worth most alive, and most victims were therefore not killed, but captured and used or sold as slaves.

Nowadays the Vikings exist no more, but the tactics, the brutality and the bloodshed are recognizable.

As the Vikings did, ISIS train children to fight and kill.

As the Vikings did, ISIS takes slaves and hostages.

The Vikings had no fear of dying in battle, as Valhalla was waiting, where there was party time with Thor and Odin. ISIS fighters have no fear of dying as Paradise and 72 promised virgins are waiting.

Vikings beheaded people. ISIS behead people.

Vikings considered Christians as infidels. ISIS considers Christians (and all other faiths, and faithless) as infidels, and both took/take them prisoners or killed/kill them.

The Vikings looted and destroyed. So do ISIS.

The Vikings developed plans and tactics with the purpose of destroy, extort, loot, kill, rape, take hostages and slaves. So do ISIS.

So, is there any difference between Vikings and ISIS?

Yes, several. 1300 years of development, culture and progress. The year is 2015, and while the Vikings have developed into a progressive Scandinavian race, where science and European culture is the driving force, ISIS is stuck on stupid, in the year 620, citing the Quran, and acting like the then bloodthirsty ignorant barbarians of the North.

http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.1952/vikings-vs-isis-what-s-the-difference.html


https://youtu.be/znxflqHh_uY

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>>132397811

Remember learning about Vikings in school? You know the ones. They had the hats with horns, the boats with dragons on the front, and they terrorized all of Europe for hundreds of years. They would descend upon a town, kill all the men, rape the women, and steal anything of value. There was even an acrynom for that: RPP, for rape, pillage, and plunder. That’s what they did. Eight hundred years ago, most Europeans were terrified of them.

Is there any comparably dangerous group in recent days? A group that commits horrible acts of violence, and targets women for sexual assault? Of course there is. I don’t even have to name it. Everyone knows the answer: Muslim extremists.

http://thefederalist.com/2016/08/09/why-muslim-terrorists-are-todays-vikings/

There are many documented encounters between the Muslim World and the Viking World.
Although recent events has left many Scandinavians with mixed feelings about their relationship with the Islamic world; the relationship between the Nordic world and the Islamic world goes way back further than most would expect. Far enough back that their histories are actually intermingled with one another.

In March of 2015, news regarding the discovery of a ring found on a Viking woman in an ancient burial ground with the inscription ‘For/To Allah’ erupted in mainstream media everywhere.
The ring itself wasn’t a new discovery, it was originally discovered during a late 19th century grave excavation in the town of Birka, on Björkö island, about 19 miles (30 kilometers) from Stockholm.

Birka was a key trading center during the Viking Age.

The ring is part of the Swedish History Museum’s collection, originally cataloged as being made of gilded silver and violet amethyst, bearing the inscription “Allah.”

http://spangenhelm.com/islamic-muslim-vikings/

https://youtu.be/znxflqHh_uY

>>132397811
>The Church stole the idea of an afterlife from Marvel superheroes

Source?

>>132397811
I've actually started studying Celtic Gods. Much deeper than monotheistic religions and very interesting to delve into.

>>132397811
can someone send me in the right direction to what is considered the "bible" of paganism.

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Reminder the both Christians and pagans will be in common with their gods
Pagans will be reunited with their hethan ancestors and worthless "gods" when they die and decompose into mulch
Christians will be united with the one and only God and their loved ones for eternity when they are raised body and soul

Didn't take long for the jew loving, white hating Dominican nigger to show.

>>132399848

This is a shit thread and OP is incoherent and probably has schitzofrenia, so you're better off asking someone else.

But to answer your question, "sayings of the high one" from the Poetic Edda for Norse paganism.

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>>132397811
>promotes globolism even though the antichrist is a globalist
please stop being a retard

>>132399946
keep up the good work m8. These will serve as bedtime stories for my younglings

>>132400036
thanks m8!

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>>132397811
>CHRISTCHRISTCHRIST HURR
Fuck off retard, you're not pagan, you're an atheist LARPer, you are no different than a fedora or a feminist who's pitiful existence exist around for bashing the last bastion of morality in this degenerate era.
Fuck this retard for bringing Reddit-tier divisionist cancer to this board.

>>132399848
There is no Truth in paganism
The "gods" squabble amongst themselves with no singular direction or will
Modern pagans don't worship the divine, they either worship their race or nature or both

>>132397811
The Christian Bible has a big part of the game plan of the globalists man.

Keep sipping that heathen kool-aid though.

>>132400283
>the last bastion of morality in this degenerate era.
Christianity's been as ineffective with being a "bastion of morality" as it's been ineffective about recovering the lands lost to the muslims and opposing the jews.
I can't express the amount of disgust I feel seeing white people worshipping a jew. It's on the same level as coalburners.

>>132400357

>implying our race isn't divine

History revolves around the European for a reason.

>>132399950
Communion*

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Guys do you realize we're just arguing in what time in history we prefer and that this has nothing to do with actual gods? The "Christians" want to dress-up as Templars while "Pagans" want to dress up in whatever their respective region wore, Vikings, Romans, Greeks, Slavs, Central Germanics etc etc.

And of course learn from that period of time that has caught your interest. Assuming you have clear ancestors to this time on both sides, i.e. not for amerilards.

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>>132400639
>History revolves around the European for a reason
This is mainly due to the Christian Europeans during the age of exploration/imperialism
If the asiatic cultures were to conjure the world, asiatic history and philosophy would be centralized
Also, Europe's domination of the rest of the world is easily explained through environmental factors and a long series of political/cultural events (the conversation of Christianity being one of them), not magic
Please read a book, witch doctor

>>132401483
But you're a nigger from the United States, and most Christians are in Africa.

>>132401483
>Please read a book
Pic unrelated, right?

>>132398726

>Forget the LARPing Vikings

>>132398821

>valhalla
>halla
>allah

>>132400750
80% of /pol/ and alt-right "Catholics" are just crusader LARPers that know little to nothing about Catholic theology. If they knew anything about Christian philosophy, they wouldn't be white nationalists.
I'm willing to have an actual theological conversation about Christianity and paganism with use of the Church doctors that have touched on the subject of paganism, but I don't think I'll find that conversation here since most modern euro-pagans don't care about the logical merits of the religion itself.

>>132397811
https://youtu.be/tFtFUX10oZw

IF YOU ARE NOT CHRISTIAN AND ARE EUROPEAN:

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>>132397811
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKiG2cXxAWc

PAGANS BTFO
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>>132399361

Look up Syncretism + Christian Church + Survival

Or read the Old Testament lazy fag

>>132402468
>if you are European but don't worship a non-European god you're a race traitor
That makes no sense

>>132401795
Has literally nothing to do with the imperial achievements of Christian Europe that spread European civilization beyond what any euro-pagan civilization did.

>>132399431

A hidden history

For a reason

((( )))

>>132402740
The Church has spread Churches, not anything else. Those buildings are now standing empty and crumbling, all that money to waste, probably straight into Jewish pockets. Since we did not have Jews before the Church.

>>132402740
What did Christian Armenia accomplish compared to Rome? Oh wait.

>>132402656
>dat bgc

>>132399848

Edda my borther, Edda

There are many good English translations

>>132402656
Syncretism in Christianity was only superficial and never detracted from the central messages of the faith.
Also, the afterlife of the Christian faith was not revealed to the Jews in the OT but rather revealed through Jesus Christ. The afterlife of modern Judaism is not the same as the Christian afterlife and there is no actual Salvation or sanctifying grace in euro-paganism (which was partly why Christianity was widespread in Europe)

>>132402946
What did Slavic paganism do compared to Christian Britain? Ohh wait

>>132403825
I really like how this whole "Christianity did X" falls apart the second you start considering all the subhumans that were Christians even longer than Europeans without doing anything noteworthy. When the common denominator isn't relevant, it's time to look at the variables.

>>132402904
>this much ignorance

If you don't understand the cultural, societal, and philosophical impact Christianity made on Europe, you're delusional

>>132400036

I read Edda. Do not be confused, most of this history has disappeared with time

Show your flag, coward

>>132404057
You do realize that the indigenous religions of Africa and the Americans were pegan?

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>>132404119
No one's going to deny that impact. After all, we're suffering it right now.

>>132404320
Yes, and?

>>132404119
This is the description of how it affected my country.

>Christianity has rapidly gained less importance in Sweden. Sweden is one of the most non-religious countries in the world. But Sweden is still shaped and influenced by Christianity much more than many are aware of.

>The laws of Sweden and our justice are based heavily on the Bible and Christian values as the equal value of all people, fairness, to take care of weak and vulnerable, etc. Hundreds of Christian teaching has influenced people's thinking of what's right and wrong.


It's a refugee welcome Trojan "horse" from the beginning.

>>132404460
Your first comment was in reference to another anon that stated that Christianity did nothing but construct buildings

As for your 2nd comment
Then you'd know that this argument is a 2 way road. (Some) European civilizations achieved great things both before and after throwing paganism in the trash. However, there are pagan cultures (including many euro-pegan cultures) that haven't accomplished jack shit in their existence. The only correlation in any of what you have said is that pagan cultures throw paganism in the trash.
How does it feel knowing that even Africans think Paganism is autistic?

>>132403671

Salvation for practicing evil as good men, all in the name of the peaceful

Well thought, if you're a king and want to grow your territory. It was nothing more than a means of uniting clans with the power of sentiment and propaganda

>>132405619
>How does it feel knowing that even Africans think Paganism is autistic?
I don't care what these """people""" think. I don't consider them my brothers just because they had some water sprinkled on them.

>>132405619
Africans prefer Christianity because you promote it there. We want nothing to do with Africans.

>Africans think Paganism is autistic?
Because they're literal apes, if you agree more with an African you might want to kill yourself.

>>132404979
Thanks for conceding your original claim that Christianity
>has spread Churches, not anything else

>>132406001
This doesn't reflect too positively on your "Nordic brethren" that did the same centries ago without looking back on paganism as anything other than meaningless nostalgia.

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You guys should watch Sri Acharyaji. He explains the principles of natural religion (AKA Sanatana Dharma, the foundation of all non-(((Abrahamic))) religions) really well. He's very no-nonsense and logical too.

>>132405916
I'm not seeing an argument
Your religion shares more in common with indigenous African spriritualism than my religion

>>132406359
Nope, we've had the same gods and goddesses back then as now.

>>132406361

>yoga, meditation

No, thanks

>>132406587
>we
You mean fringe backwater LARPers
Most of Scandinavia is either secular or Christian

>>132397811
>Hating Christianity with a passion is a core aspect of Pagan identity
Gee, where have I seen this before.

>>132406568
>Your religion shares more in common with indigenous African spriritualism than my religion
Anon, what makes you think I care about their religion? This is about them as people - and it's your religion that accepts them. It has to, there's not even a basis to reject them.

I'm not pagan, I'm just against the anti-white forces out to eradicate us. One of those forces is Christianity.

>>132406915
There is no LARPing, Scandinavia is my ancestral land.

>>132406971

I am NOT (((pagan))) you fool

Pagan is a (Judeo-) Christian word

You should know that, coming from the Jewnited States of America

vikings are shit we beat them out of ireland haha pagans are larping faggots

>>132406361
>mentally ill street-shitter

I'll stick with Jesus Christ thanks

>>132407190
We aren't arguing race, witch doctor.
We are arguing religion so please stop tiptoeing around the subject
What theological basis does your religion have that couldn't also be said about indigenous African spirituality.
Yes, my religion accepts them because my religion believes in universal Truth. If your religion has no real truth and is only applicable to regional tribes, it's only a cute facade without a frame.
It's worse than Islam lmao

>>132407725

(((Paganism))) has been defined as anyone involved in any religious act, practice, or ceremony which is not (Judeo-) Christian

We are not (((pagans))) christcuck

>>132407200
The majority of your ancestral homeland threw paganism in the trash centuries ago

>>132407930
European tribes, of which you will never be a part of.

>>132407694
Well whatever your preferred pronoun is is edgy as fuck.

>>132408039
>any religious act, practice, or ceremony which is not (Judeo-) Christian

How doesn't that define your fringe tribal cult?

>>132407930
>We aren't arguing race
That's all I've been arguing in this thread, anon. You seem to struggle to follow this conversation considering you're still talking about "my religion" despite me clarifying that it's not my religion in the post you're replying to.

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>>132408103
>I won't be associated with an archaic cult
PRAISE THE LORD!

>>132408167
Don't expect logic from somebody who worships trees and refuses to shower for religious purposes

>>132399950

I can't believe that there are actually adults still stupid enough to believe that.

>>132408186
This is a thread about religion, anon.
Are you an pagan (or whatever label you want me to describe your obscure regional spiritualism for the sake of your feelings) or not?

>>132408543
>adults believeing if in truth
How shocking

>>132408167

Sorry, forgot ((( )))

>(((defined)))

Calling a white man pagan is calling a black man nigger, both suffered severely under Christ

>>132408344
I'm going to revel in the destruction of Christendom as much as you revel in the destruction of the native European religions, anon.

>>132408637
>This is a thread about religion, anon.
>>132397811
>Religion plays an important part in national identity and will play a major role in creating ethnostates.
>Christianity cannot accomplish this
You've conceded the second point already here >>132407930 - so you're kinda out of place in this thread.

>Are you an pagan (or whatever label you want me to describe your obscure regional spiritualism for the sake of your feelings) or not?
I already told you this, anon. Not once, but twice.

>>132397811

>believing in superstitions that don't have any tangible evidence

You're committing the same fundamental error that the Christians do. That said, if you're gonna be superstitious, you might as well believe in your own people's bullshit than something made up in the deserts of the Middle-East.

>>132408462
I wonder if pagans actually believe in their ancestral folklore or if they're just insecure atheists that don't want to be associated with the passive nihilism infecting their countries.

>>132408637

This is 14 in Odin form

You do not belong here. Go to church and pray for mercy

>>132409106

Then you do not understand these threads

>>132409144
The answer's no. They know in their hearts their old gods don't exist. The European collective spirit long ago accepted the heart of Jesus.

>>132409864

>accepted the heart of Jewsus

>>132397811
I thought current pagen belief was made by an old pot smoke in the 60s.

>>132409864
>The European collective spirit long ago accepted the heart of Jesus.
Together with the nigger dick that's raping us out of existence and the kikes rubbing their hands in the background while watching, yes.

We don't have to continue past mistakes.

>>132409802

Apparently not. Why would you waste a second of your time worshipping gods you don't believe in?

All religion is garbage. Move on. Look to Sam Harris - Moral Landscape if you want objective secular morality. Existentialism if you want meaning. Stop being a little bitch.

>>132408895
I'm going to revel in the destruction of homogeneous European ethnicities
God will sort out the wicked from the righteous
Paganism will dwell in the shadows as the second coming sheds wrathful light and judgment on the world
All that do not become one with God will perish

>>132409144
The same could be said of Christians. It's only the retard Christians who still actually believe it.

>>132410582
"Christians" that don't believe in the good news are not Christians.

>>132410737
The ones that don't really believe in the "good news" are the smart ones. The idiots actually believe it.

>>132410469
>I'm going to revel in the destruction of homogeneous European ethnicities
Yes, that's what I've been saying all along.

If you're Christian you're anti-white, thanks for being such a vocal example. Most of you filth likes to pretend otherwise, especially here.

>>132410307
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>>132410024
Yes
It's your "Nordic brethren" that converted, anon.

>>132410867
Pro-humanity=/=anti-white

Christians here no knowing of God's wisdom and the good news

>>132410862
There are no Christians that don't believe in the good news

>>132411191
You already admitted to your anti-white stance, anon. You can stop now, it's embarrassing.

>>132411305
The majority of the intelligent ones just LARP like they believe it.

>>132411327
I only said that race should not usurp universal truth. If tribal spiritualism is an obstacle for spiritual truth, then God has a good sense of humor on how to eliminate it lol.
ethnic pagan gods are worthless and it's pretty humorous how they are going to be perminatly wiped out

You all need to see the truth.
Godhood manifests in certain people.
People who had started with nothing, but grew to become one of the greats must have a spark of the divine in them, right?
Hitler was one of these people. Others included Tesla, Spartacus, George Washington, etc.

>>132411606
They aren't Christian then

>>132411897
>I only said that race should not usurp universal truth.
>>132410469
>I'm going to revel in the destruction of homogeneous European ethnicities
Reaching a new low. I thought lying is a no-no, or is it like with everything semitic ok if you do it to the goyim?

>>132399660
do you know who you're talking to?

>>132399691
literally who says that?

>>132412256
I'm not lying
I'd revel if the destruction of anything that gets in the way of Truth.
If it does (as pagans like to claim), then I'd revel in God's victory

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>tries to have a thread with a high level of conversation
>posts a well written OP
>is polite and cordial

>DEUS VULT faggots and actual niggers immediately dump the same 100 mspaint comics they dump every time someone mentions anything non-Christian

I've been debating getting back into church but I can't manage to believe the things they say, they feel so off, and it feels plastic. I've also begun feeling a calling to research Woden. Apparently Christians are perpetual children, as I suspected.

>>132413192
The truth is that Christianity is anti-white, something that's been verified several times now in this thread.

That's all there is to it, anon.

>>132412256
I'm not lying to you
You just aren't understanding what I am saying.
If race is one of the devil's horns that keeps people from his grace, then He'll cut it off
Better hope race isn't one of the Devil's horns, anon. Convert or watch "your people" be destroyed by righteous interbreeding.
If you believe your false gods are tied to your race, then God will take your word for it
Psalm 75:10

>>132413665
It's not anti-white if whites aren't anti-God

>>132410922
Why do people feel the need to do this? You know people live in places besides Germany Britian Australia or America, right? And there are proxies.

If you are a paganist, trying to fight christianism, you are pretty much a jew fighting against the moralist influence of organized religion, in a very immoral time.

A tool for them.

Join forces or kill yourself.

>>132413819
If you put your jewish deity above the race then you ought to be sent to it. That would leave both parties happy.

>>132414007
Mutually agreed upon, anon.
Christians are called to put God above everything.

>>132414202
Perfect, then there won't be a debate when it comes to it.

>>132397811
I appreciate these daily threads OP, keep it up

>>132414328
Very well then
Have a nice day

>>132414202
Tell me exactly; Why?

Why do Christians need to devote every moment of their short lives to an Immortal Godhead?

What does God get out of the worship? What's the point in Worshipping a God who demands you to stop being human?

>>132413267
One of the biggest differences between Christanity and European Paganism is the Worship Model.

Paganism from Latin to German is all about Patronship. Gods are Patrons of spheres, and you pay tribute for their boon.

Christanity is about servitude and about being dominated by their god, it's basically Spiritual Slavery.

>>132413905
But Christianity drew all it's Morales from the Europeans, not the other way around.

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>>132397811
Hail Wōden.

>>132414694
It's not that he demands worship for His own sake but rather that we worship Him for our sake.
If our death is like a desert island, then salvation and eternal life is like a ship that delivers us from it. After our life on earth, the default is death (in the atheistic sense where body and soul are terminated).
God gets nothing out of worship, but we are called to worship as a way to give God permission to send the ship.
Grace saves, but it must have justification and your consent to save you.

>>132415340
So I am supposed to punish myself in this life at a chance of happiness in the next?

Why can't god accept morally good people without the backbreaking slavery?

>>132414982
Idiot

>>132415701
Really?

Pagans had extremely complex and varied morale codes before the introduction of Christanity, Arguably, it was better.

>>132397811
My family is from the Iberian Peninsula, and my mother's side is from England/Dutch.

I have no idea what paganism to practice, any help anons?

>>132416071
Depends on Which gods you find common ground with.

Pagan worship should not feel like Christanity, don't force yourself down paths. Look to the Gods for Inspiration, You'll find your muses.

>>132416274
Ya but I don't think I'd fare well screaming "HAIL WOTAN" when I'm not that much Scando blood.

It's more for preservation of my ancestors and their culture more than anything. I'm more of the self enlightenment path Evola always talks about.

>>132401483
(((Diamond))) was born in Boston, Massachusetts, United States. Both of his parents were from East European Jewish families who had emigrated to the United States.

You can't make this shit up

>>132416502
Refute the points made in the book instead of cowering behind ad hominems

Athena=protect Odin=wisdom Mercury=comunication Freya=comunity ext... Paganism is a tool to share logic through stories and characters.

>>132416395
Well, Paganism is two parts history and one part Worship in my book. It's very likely most Pagan Gods are simply a case of the "Divine Ancestor" and passovers of Ancestor Worship.

I'd take a look into Your background, See where in Spain/Iberia you're from; What tribes lived there, their gods and their ideals.

Celts were a major thing in Iberia, but don't confuse Celt with Gael, but there will be Similar themes.

Namely, the Wheel of Seasons, A God with Horns and a great significance in knoted weave

>>132415538
>So I am supposed to punish myself in this life at a chance of happiness in the next?

If you believe that self sacrifice, humility, and prayer are "punishment", you are no better than a hedonist.

>morally good people

On whose terms? Yours?

>>132416776
Alright.

Religion was merely a Philosophical house. A tool to spread a Philosophy through a culture. Christianity changed so much on it's journey across Europe it's unrecognizable from it's source. Religions always change to suit the people, rarely the other way around. Europe would have developed along these paths with or without christanity.

>>132416776
It's a bad book that dances around obvious points to be politically correct. Also it doesn't explain anything everyone who finished high school doesn't already know.
It's only an ad hominem if it's used and then claimed to be an argument, faggot. He's just pointing something out: that you're shilling kike nonsense.

And I wouldn't mention fallacies when you believe in Christianity, which itself is a fallacy.

>>132416274
So you admit that there is no Truth in your religion an it's all about personal preference
So what's the point of these "complex and varied moral codes" >>132415786
you speak of if different gods have different agendas and you don't have to adhere to them anyway?

>>132417055
Issue is my last name is a corruption of a corruption, and my last name didn't exist until 1890 Spain. It was originated in the region west of Basque, but I don't know if we originated there.

>>132417197
See, I am not a Hedonist. I simply do not see the Sacrifice of Self as a Worthy trade off for something so dubious.

many sects of early Christianity literally killed themselves for salvation Starving away like Taoist Monks. Until the Papacy changed the rules and made Suicide a Sin.

I consider myself a Morally good person, I am polite, Helpful and charitable.

Where is the line to draw here? Even Christanity values the "Noble Pagan"

>>132417470
Could it be the truth TO my religion is personal preference.

Perhaps my gods I venerate do not exist, Perhaps it's a palcebo. But here is the fun part Christanon.

If my Gods do not exist, their ideals are, the idea of them, the basis of their influence and their stories are still there.

If my gods are nothing but their ideals, I can still look up to them.

What can you look up to if your god is not real?

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>>132402656
>a giantess will never sit on your face

>>132417470
>you speak of if different gods have different agendas and you don't have to adhere to them anyway?

Also, for this. You are entirely right, Patronage is a wonderful belief system isn't it?

>>132417532
It's all in the Journey, Follow History until you feel a big pull.

It could be pre-Rome Celtic or Roman Celtic. It could even be Greek. It might not even be on any deities and you simply feel a connection with your ancestors cultural designs and ideas.

It's only stupid and silly when you look at Paganism through the lockbox of Christianity. You might not even think the gods are real, but you enjoy their sphere of inspiration.

>>132417558
Eternal life with God is worth more than humanity (no less an individual human) can offer (which is why Jesus's sacrifice was nessesary for salvation)

You are correct in that suicide is a sin which is why the sects you described are heretics

The idea of a noble pagan is not based on the perspective of the self righteous pagan but rather the judgment of God. We might consider ourselves righteous, but every man falls short of what is justifiable for salvation (Romans 3:23, Ecclesiastes 7:20)

>>132418426
So the only way to Salvation, Is Slavery? That doesn't sound like an enjoyable experience.

What happens when you are in Heaven after a lifetime of placating for god?

Are you allowed to be free and think for yourself then?

the Pantheon of gods is the first realization of archetypal roles and repeating scenarios. In spoken language cultures, these characters could be used as a common template for story st structure. If we looked at an ancient pagan story circle it might actually look more like PNP RPG than most (except OS Gs) would imagine. Picture rolling bones, drawing simple maps, pushing figurines, sharing the story. Of course all with real life consequences.

>>132418626
submition to God is itself liberation from sin. It's not that you aren't a slave, it's that your master is inferior and tells you things that feed your pride since it offers nothing else.
Nobody knows what communion with God will be like. The experience is indescribable and unfathable.

>>132418743
Most Historical records draw a clear basic design of the Pantheon, of course, over time with changes.

The Indo-European Religious design is quite similar.

Sky father.
Earth Mother.

This two basic stances are drawn across EVERY Indo-European Religion, Yes, even Christanity. Ancient Hebrew is actually much much older than even the Jews pretend as Judaism is a recreation of old Jewish culture.

Yahweh is a Sky god. And he used to have a wife until fundamentalist Hebrew sects burned down the temple and sect to her. Christians simply deny History, probably their biggest Sin too.

>>132419045
But I'm not a slave, I am not forced to Worship my gods every day, I am not forced to put them as the primary of my life under the fear I will be punished in the afterlife.

>>132417875
Not really as it offers nothing else other than self affirmation

>>132419238
I never said you are a slave to your gods
I said you are a slave to the world and your sin.
Your gods are just an extension of that

Jesus is inevitably a member of the pantheon, as are all gods and heroes. Paganism does not dis-include any story. It is based on the preservation of all stories and history. How a god is ranked is up to the individual.

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>>132419450

I am a slave to myself. Even Christianity acknowledges the determination of self and how God cannot break this free will.

Your god is just another extension of that, for without the Self to acknowledge him, Are any gods real?

Your life is your greatest resource, Spend it productively.

>>132419697
Nothing you said is incorrect by technicality.
However, embracing sin over God makes you no less a slave.
All that is here is mutual disagreement and I could also advise you to do as you said in your last sentence

>>132420096
I do spend my life productively.

My Passtimes include Skiing, Hunting, Charcoal Drawing, Woodworking and I took up a bit of leathercraft.

I spend my spare time carving and designing Walking sticks, if I am not trying to learn a new art.

My gods inspire these acts, they inspire me to create and explore ideas. You know, Once upon a time, Christianity preached the same.

>>132399848

Assuming you're going for Germanic paganism, then The Havamal is virtually the only book it need. It's advice is practical and pragmatic and most editions of the book are small enough to carry around in your pocket.

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>>132420428
Well putting religion aside to find some common ground
I would just like to say that I can appreciate craft and actually enjoy wood working myself making furniture and crafts for my friends and family.

I wouldn't say that my God inspires me to do what I am not already called to do, but I do believe that man is given reason and creativity for expression.

Pic related. I made it for a friend that that loved boardgame as a kid

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>>132420428
Most of this damn thing was hand drawing and painting everything.

Also, what engraving tools do you recommend. I'm relatively new to the hobby and only know as much as my dad taught me when I was little