Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus

>>132298322
Kike bullshit. If Christianity was born out of a conspiracy it definitely was a Jewish one.

>>132298710
What interests me is the fact they already had a god factory up and running...

>>132298322
>>132298710
I think it's a complicated matter.

there was probably some desire to have a more centralized theological model. Christianity was popular as a salvation religion for the poor in ancient rome, and was looked at like scientology or mormonism are today.

accounts of roman cruelty are probably exaggerated, as the romans exaggerated accounts of christian "misdeeds".

frankly /pol/ is the worst place to discuss this, try /his/ instead,

>>132298710
Also, the other implication of the book is that Judaism was also hacked

>>132299087
Yeah maybe i will try there. thx

this is a pretty good documentary already, thanks OP

i'm sure you've heard of him but you should check out jordan maxwell

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>>132298322
Hol'up, what you is saying is that Christianity was a Flavian trick to gaslight rebellious kikes? Seems legit.

>>132299531
I genuinely have no idea if it's true. I am interested though.

>>132298710
Christianity is anti-Judaism, brainlet.

>>132298322
Joseph Atwill < Jan Irving

>>132299719
I'm not sure I take your meaning old bean

They literally jacked the Jesus story off of a mix of earlier Godmen myths.

I feel like all the people promoting Christianity on /pol/ don't really believe it themselves but want others to so we can fight degeneracy.

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>>132299659
Watch the documentary, it's pretty entertaining if nothing else. There might be a video debunking his thesis too iirc.

>>132298322
Joshua, they're laughing at you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzngTXkGUkg

>>132299899
I saw it some time ago, just remembered it the other day..

>>132299679
Yeah, let's worship a whipped Jews, give Jews control of money lending, and turn the other cheek.

We played ourselves.

I'll get my coat

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>>132298322
>tfw the jews killed caesar because he undermined their religion

>>132299967
You realize that Jews were kicked out of countries more than 90 times, right? And they would sometimes be killed.

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>>132299880
>so we can fight degeneracy
Isn't that good enough. People need religion and will invent one - secular gnosticism - or turn to another - Islam - if you don't provide them with one.

>>132298322
Notice how the narrator drags out the s's.

>>132300967
They're definitely getting their money's worth

>>132299281
Rome tended to absorb every religion and cult it ran across, enthusiastically, even ones where the guys chopped their own dicks off.

Except for 3: Judaism, Christianity, and Druidism. Those were rejected, with Druidism subverted in some areas, notably Gaul and Iberia but effectively at war with Rome elsewhere.

So what happened? Why those? Because they threatened Rome in some fundamental way, and it was only those 3.

So, no, the theory presented is bullshit.

>>132300375
I don't disagree and you make a good case

>>132299531
There were more Messiahs, not just Jesus. One of the more famous being Sabbatai Zvi in 1666

>>132301326
>Those were rejected
but still Christianity was eventually adopted. Im open to the idea that some strata of Rome might be down with a bit of a Psy-op. Wasn't there some hint of The Koran being transcribed by Christian Monks?

>>132299880
The Jesus presented in normfag Churchianity is effectively the Persian demigod Mithras re-invented and superimposed upon the much more based Messiah Jesus. If you know what a Messiah is and what the Jews were looking for and what the religious calendar of Jewish religion is, you see a lot of suspicious, laughable, outrageous, head-in-your-ass shit in Christianity. It's fucking hysterical - but it works, so just leave it alone.

>>132301797
I know some Korans were brought to europe in varying ways, but I'm not sure what you're getting at here.

>>132298710
He specifically says that ((Josephus)) helped Titus write the New Testament.

>>132302311
The idea comes from Mhds 1st wife being a nun from a rich family think, that and mhd being illiterate.

>>132298322
Look into Caesarian, he is likely Christ. Interesting theory, shows Christian relation similarity to Buddhism.

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>>132302575
Also understand that Augustus was Julius Caesar's adopted son. So he wanted Caesarian/Jesus killed, who would've have been the direct lineage to Julius Caesar.

The guy at 15:52 has exactly the same accent as David Icke.

>>132299880
>so we can fight degeneracy.
nothing wrong with this

>>132302539
Oh that stuff. I've heard the Koran is based on heresies found in the near east deserts, so former Christians expelled from orthodoxy gelled into the monstrosity of Islam. Quite possible.

>>132300216
you realize christcucks believing shitskins were their equal cause of christian is why kikes are in power? they played the long game while whites got played like retards. nobody has ever held as much power as whites did but they threw it all away at the critical moment and allow women, shitskins, and kikes to gain control.

talking about 1000 years ago doesn't help today and how christcucks subverted their own civilization and it's going to crash and burn

>>132303136
you dont get it, whites were great because they followed God, nothing else
USA foundation was Christians and they were the best country, now they are the whore of babylon

>>132302772
>>132302575

Whilst both of these theories can't be true, it is testament to fact fact a bunch of people think the absolute Roman madmen could pull it off

>>132303136
Keep moving the goal posts dipshit.

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>>132303285
delusional as shit. the logical conclusion to christianity is what we've got now. whites got played by kikes. everybody throughout history knew kikes were bad news and should be exterminated but it's only cause of the bible they weren't.

asia is godless and they will be landing on the moon, mars, and beyond while whites go extinct at the hands of shitskins and feminist. china will be greater than america ever was and they aren't christcucks

>>132303285
USA's foundation was the enlightenment.

>>132303285
USA foundation was judeo-masonic.

>>132303763
and the enlightenment was Christians, all the paintings, churches, the printing of bibles, it all comes to Christianity

>>132303694
>asia is godless and they will be landing on the moon
they cant live without USA, if USA fells, they fell with them, it's going to happen, every asian nation is going to fall if USA falls

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>>132298710

This. (((Jesus Christ))) and (((St. Paul of Tarsus))) created (((Christianity))) to destroy Rome and the white race.

>>132303285
USA's foundation was the enlightenment.
>>132303285
USA foundation was judeo-masonic

could be both, maybe more, assuming more than one interest group was at work, which it always is

>>132304547
just as likely to be in line with the tradition of Rome absorbing other cultures upon conquest

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>>132299880
>I feel like all the people promoting Christianity on /pol/ don't really believe it themselves but want others to so we can fight degeneracy.

Seems pretty obvious to me. I mean even their arguments always come down to functionality

>Christianity built the West
>Christianity saved us from Islam
>Christianity is needed to battle degeneracy

Ok cool. But do you actually think it is true?

Anybody claiming to be a Christian on here is LARPing.

>>132305021
>we point out the truth
>they dont like it

you are an anime weabo anyways who cares

>>132305192
>you miss the point completely

You're stupid.

>>132298322
Dont bother watching this nonsense. It is disguised atheist garbage

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>>132301326
Rome fought against Christianity as much as they could. Persia would fund Christian groups to spite Rome. Eventually they made peace with Persia just so they could purge Christians and Manicheans from their borders.

Rome may have conceded defeat against the Christians and decided to co-opty them. Haven't watched the documentary yet, so IDK how that would fit with the Roman Jesus theory.

>>132305815
Too Late! It made my an Agnatheist!

>>132298843
>god factory

What's this?

>>132306224
i was referring to the Roman Imperial Cult

>>132298322
Makes no sense, as Christians were persecuted by the Romans for a long time before it became a staple in their society. There is also a large amount of evidence to believe Jesus walked the earth.

>>132298322
>Over an hour long.
Fuck that shit, religion is gay as fuck. No evidence for God. Period, the end.

>>132298322

What does Varg think?

>>132306440
I agree it seems counter intuitive. persecution seems like concrete evidence but isn't really
>>132306543
No Idea

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>>132300216
>>132299967

>>132303285
Pre-Christian European empires were the envy of the world. Shove your bible back up your ass. Many founding fathers were deists with questionable faith in Christianity.

>>132307159
>Pre-Christian European empires were the envy of the world. Shove your bible back up your ass.
God rose emperies many times just to make jews slaves for being disobedient, they were destroyed time after tho

>>132307159
What empire did pig chasers have before the West? I can't tell if this is bait of nigger-tier WE WUZ shit. Either way you need to KYS.

>>132299531

Huh? Christianity had spread far through the empire by the time of Diocletian, but no there was no "trick". This book sounds pretty retarded.

I get the feeling this thread was made by asatru retards or shills. Divide and conquer. Christianity as a tool of politics did not come into play until the final daying decades of Rome. What is this thread trying to get across anyways? From waht I am gathering, it is some weird holy grail tier crazy shit.

>>132308724
I'm not saying i'm not a retard but this is what my curiosity looks like senpai

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>>132307517
That's the natural rise and fall of power structures. Kill yourself fucking religious nutjob.

>>132307787
The Roman Empire. Northern European pagans had top-tier steel working(pattern welding and folding), massive hill forts, and war technology that Rome incorporated into it's legions. Most of you christards are historically illiterate.

>>132309144
>jews are still here ruling everything
>just a coincidence
watava

>>132298322
OP I get where you're going with this but I think your energies are misguided
If we are going to use our meme magic to take down a religion I'd much rather work on convincing the Aegyptians that Moses the filthy Jew was an Aegyptian Prince and Judaism is the true native Aegyptian religion
Tell them Islam is a filthy Arab interloper and Judaism is their true nationalist cult
If we can convince enough of them to buy in the kek's will ensue and much shitskin blood will flow
KEK will be pleased

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>>132309295
Jewish religions seems to be the only one, that i know of, which instructs it's followers to due fair business with each other and to usurp the shit out of everyone else. That alone sets them up for success in any barter or capitalist system.

>>132298322
Kikestianity is what destroyed the west.

>>132309559
Shadilay. No really, If this is true it would be darkly funny but y'all be crediting me with attempting to take down religion? nigga please. This has been bugging me for a time. I'm not ideologically welded to this theoryt- I just find it interesting.

>>132309144
>Dacia
>Northern European Pagan
ok you're actually retarded though

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>>132310076
Even the druids had top-tier steel working and war chariots. Germanics invented all the longhouse designs copied by surrounding peoples. Romans took technology from all the peoples north of them. Dacia stretches well north of Rome.

>>132310026
got no problem with the notion the the merchants fucked things up since the Talmud came out, but before that- not so much. The romans had a bigger footprint back then

>>132310026
Whatever you say mohammed.

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>>132310076
Here is a ~500BC Germanic hill fort. They were not backwards by any means.

>>132310579
Kikes were evil even before the Talmud. Talmud was just them revealing their inner thoughts.

>>132310026
As much as i hate kikes, much of the blame lies on the illiterate turds that lick their feet to this day.

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>>132298322
I think it's a theory just like evolution

>>132298843

The God Factory was Alexandria, which was loaded with Jewish "intellectuals". Look at the cult of Serapis.

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>>132310521
>Even the druids had top-tier steel working and war chariots.
So did Rome and Greece. Greece had chariots in 1600BC.
>Germanics invented all the longhouse designs copied by surrounding peoples.
The longhouse predates 'Germanic people' by over a millennium
>Romans took technology from all the peoples north of them
HAHAHAHAHAHA, top tier we wuz my friend
>Dacia stretches well north of Rome.
>Anything north of Rome is 'Northern Europe'
Retard confirmed

>>132311064
That's interesting.if so, it doesnt mean that romans couldnt get their own gig together, and werent the jews under the heel of the romans in Alexandria? Wasnt Josephus like a Court Jew or something?

take the Fomenko pill
Any questions of historical veracity implicitly rest on the validity and veracity of the accepted historical chronology - what if it's hopelessly corrupted?

>>132311417

There's a large and involved history of the Greek and Roman periods w/Jews. What you find is the same old Jew bullshit.

>>132310855
Everybody had hill forts where there were hills to build forts. Here's Citadel of Mycenae 1350BC in Greece. (Yes, 1350BC)

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>>132311890
>>132310855
Forgot pic

>>132311745
All the same, I'd still argue the romans were pretty sharp

>>132311745
>>132311417
Fun fact: Alexander the Great actually respected the Jews according to what little we know about his connections with Israel. It wasn't until after he died during the Wars of the Diadochi that the Jews ever hated the Greeks. Hannukah is a celebration of their revolt against the Hellinistic empires.

>>132298322
Nope. Too much proof of the resurrection. Always be cautious of Christ-killing kikes lying to you.

>>132298322
>no goy it wasn't us I mean the Jews who invented Christianity it was Caesar. Pay no attention to the fact the bible is just the Torah with some more pages tacked on goy

>>132298710
This

>>132302477

thats fucking stupid. also checked

>>132298322
>Seeing conspriracies everywhere
stop being so detached from world

>>132299899
Is this an attempt at rule 34ing the Jesus crucifixion?

>>132311200
>HAHAHAHAHAHA, top tier we wuz my friend

They did you dipshit. Roman legion equipment was pieced together with surrounding tech and then improved upon. Northern Dacia goes well north of Rome. I had to retype that after a browser crash, so i blended shit together. Yes, Dacia are not northern euros, but they were one of the pre-Christian pagan tribes that inspired Rome. The neolithic longhouses were first discovered in Germanic territories.

Main point is that pre-Christian empires were very powerful and not backwards shitholes.

>>132312777
did not know that. thx
>>132312901
hmm,
>>132313063
i get your schtick, but is just the trope you trope

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>>132299087
>I think it's a complicated matter

Lel what are you doing on this board? It was the kikes!!1!

>>132311064
>cult of Serapis
Where's the Jewry here? I've never looked into this.

>>132312777
>Alexander the Great actually respected the Jews according to what little we know about his connections with Israel
sauce?

>>132311890
>>132311963
Mediterranean empires had the easiest land to develop and ready made trade/information networks. They are also closer to the begging regions of human civilization, so it's no wonder their shit is more impressive than mountain and forest peoples. Non-med Euros did very well with what they had.

>>132313437
underrated

>>132313191
Conspiracies are as comon as dirt. Anti-conspiracy theorists are mental retards.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conspiracy

the act of conspiring together

an agreement among conspirators

a group of conspirators

>>132302539
>mhd
Thread made by a dunecoon. Of course.

>>132302167
>zeitgeist bullshit
Are you 12?

>>132314458
too long, pc b up hm

>>132302167
sauce?

>>132299880
I know Zeitgiest was full of shit, but I've seen tons of parallels with older religious beliefs when I looked into them. I could never take the Bible seriously growing up. It always sounded exactly like occult ramblings. Much of the stories talk about blind obedience/faith and sound like what modern cults do to soften people's minds up before indoctrination.

>>132298322
This is generally the theory I subscribe to, anon. Definitely read the book, too.

It was a great trick by the Romans to tame radical Jews. As a side note, one thing that has been on my mind is how the same thing could be done to Islam to weaken the radicals.

Despite the motivations of the Flavians crafting the New Testament, I still hold Christianity in high regard, and attend church regularly with my wife and children.

Why?

First, Christians are still the most moral people around. (I live in a very liberal city, and would otherwise be surrounded by degeneracy.) The community is solid, and that's important for my family.

Second, the substrate the Flavians used to fuse the New Testament with the Old Testament is essentially Mithraism, a Pagan mystery religion practiced by our ancestors. The Pagan mystery religions still hold a lot of truth about the death of the lower self, and the resurrection of the higher self. (Think no-fap.) For me, nailing the king to the cross is the symbolic act of sacrificing one's ego in submission to God, the holy identity that connects our people together in the spiritual realm.

Finally, Christianity is a bulwark against Islam. Tolerating the literalist, exoteric beliefs held by the majority of my congregation is well worth the alliance against Islam. Some members are open to the esoteric meanings and in the future I hope to build bridges between Christians and Pagans, since our religions hold a common, though forgotten, history. But most importantly, Christians are my allies in the spiritual war against Islam.

Anyway, yes, the Bible is chock full of dark Flavian humor. I find it quite funny. But I still worship the dying and resurrecting God.

If you're looking for more, I'd check out the Pharmacratic Inquisition documentary as well as Jan Irvin's newer work about drugs and social control. Atwill's other books are good, too, but more difficult. Also, Jordan Peterson's Biblical series seems promising.

Godspeed, anon!

>>132313279
>sauce?
Josephus' account:
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/1120-alexander-the-great
http://www.livius.org/sources/content/josephus/jewish-antiquities/alexander-the-great-visits-jerusalem/
Most say the story isn't true but we do know at least that Alexander was fine with the Jews as long as they payed taxes

This one goes into a bit more detail, and even hints that Alexander might've been a crypto-Jew:
http://www.jewishhistory.org/alexander-the-great/

Hannukah, Seleucid empire, and the Diadochi wars:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maccabean_Revolt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judas_Maccabeus

Alexander also ordered every boy born the year after his conquest in Israel to be named Alexander which is why it's so common there to this day.

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>>132298322
>>132315452
Here's some quotes from a website that was posted on here awhile ago. I looked into the Ancient Egyptian philosophy mentioned and it checked out.

Exposing the Old Testament

Most Christians and many others believe the Judeo/Christian Bible to be the word of "God." In truth, nearly everything within the Bible was stolen and corrupted from Pagan religions that predated Judeo/Christianity from hundreds to thousands of years, from all around the world, and in particular, the Far East.

"We shall destroy God" - quote from the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.

The Hebrew written "Five Books of Moses" also known as the "Pentateuch", along with the "Torah" were STOLEN and CORRUPTED from the Egyptian "TAROT." Note- "Torah" is an anagram of "Tarot." The most noted example of the Tarot is the 78 card pack sold in many stores now-a-days and used for fortune telling. The Tarot consists of five suits [where the five was stolen and corrupted from]: the wands/rods of fire, the swords of air, the cups of water, the pentacles of earth, and the trump of quintessence/ether. The trump suit was omitted from the standard deck of playing cards, and all that remains of the trump is the Fool card, which was kept as the Joker. All of these are elements [fire, earth, air, water and ether] of the human soul and the message of the Tarot aside from its divination capabilities is the Magnum Opus, which leads to physical and spiritual perfection and immortality. All of this was stolen and corrupted into a fictitious history of the Jews, which has nothing whatsoever to do with spirituality.

The Jewish Talmud instructs the Jewish people to destroy Gentiles and enslave them, as "YHVH" in reality is the Jewish people.

>>132315502
>>132315509
thx. i will check out when i wake up. good night !

>>132315883
Quote from the Talmud:
Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen [Gentile] hits a Jew, the Gentile must be killed. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God.

The fictitious Jewish "God" "Yaweh/Jehova's" name was inserted, replacing the names of many Gentile/Pagan Gods. The entity "Jehova" is fictitious. The name "Jehova" was stolen from the Roman God "Jove" for one.
"The pious Dr. Parkhurst. . . proves, from the authority of Diodorus Siculus, Varro, St. Augustine, etc., that the Iao, Jehova, or ieue, or ie of the Jews was the Jove of the Latins and Etruscans..." "YHWH/IEUE was additionally the Egyptian Sun God Ra: Ra was the father in heaven, who has the title of 'Huhi' the eternal, from which the Hebrews derived the name 'Ihuh.'" "Jewish mystical tradition viewed the original Jehova as an androgyne, his/her name compounded as Jah [jod] and the pre-hebraic name of Eve, Havah, or Hawah, rendered he-vau-he in Hebrew letters. The four letters together made the sacred Tetragrammaton, YHWH, the secret name of God..." We can also see where the antagonistic story of Zeus [Jove] and Prometheus was used to promote the concept of a rebellious God who was condemned and ostracized for bringing knowledge to humanity." 1

Humanity's original religion was polytheistic [having many different Gods]. In the original Hebrew Bible, the word "Elohim" is used. "In spite of the monotheistic endeavors of the compilers and editors of the book of Genesis, struggling to proclaim faith in a sole deity in a world that in those days believed in many gods, there remain numerous slip-ups where the biblical narrative speaks of gods in the plural. The very term for 'deity,' [when the Lord is not specifically named as Yaweh], is not the singular El but the plural Elohim. 2

>>132315958

The dual aspect of Christianity was stolen from the duality of Zoroastrianism, which preceded the Christian religion by centuries. 3 Yaweh/Jehova replaced Ahura Mazda, and the Old Gods who were the Original Gods [Ahriman, which is Aryan and means "noble" in Sanskrit] were labeled as "evil" in order to establish the supreme monotheism of Yaweh/Jehova. The Original Gods were turned into Demons and monsters which represented evil.4 Most wound up in the "Goetia." Note the similarity of the root "Goet" meaning "Devil" and the derogatory Jewish word for Gentile, which is "Goy" or plural, "Goyim."

This excerpt quote from the Catholic Encyclopedia is very revealing:
In the same way the Greeks and Romans may have worshipped their divinities, fondly believing them to be good. But the Christian Scriptures declare that all the gods of the Gentiles are demons.
Catholic Encyclopedia: Devil Worship
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04767a.htm
DEMONS ARE THE GODS OF THE GENTILES!


Mithra, the celestial intermediary between Ahura Mazda and Angra Manyu [Ahriman], has numerous striking parallels with the Nazarene "Jesus Christ." Mithra was a savior, who like the Nazarene was announced by prophets, whose birth took place in a cave [many accounts of the birth of the Nazarene claim that he also was born in a cave], and the appearance of an exceptional star. Mithra would later supplant Vishnu, who in pre-Zoroastrianism Vedism had been the world's savior.5

>>132316018
The following is proof of the many different and diverse sources of which the authors of the Judeo/Christian Bible stole from:

THE CREATION/GENESIS:
The Enuma Elish predated the bible by a minimum of 1,000 years, and is presumed to be much older. The tablets are now in the British Museum.
The Atrahasis Story predates the biblical Genesis account by over 1,000 years or more. Both of these creation accounts predate Christianity and the Judeo/Christian Bible by centuries. Both reveal there were "GODS" not "One God." This is where the Jews made mistakes, along with the many contradictory scriptures. It is glaringly obvious the Judeo/Christian Bible is not the word of "God." The foolish bible thumping idiots rant and rave how "God is perfect." Right there is another contradiction. For a long list of endless contradictions, click here
Both of these creation accounts predate Christianity and the Judeo/Christian Bible by centuries. Both reveal there were "GODS" not "One God."

Genesis Chapter 1, verse 26 reads: "And God said "let us make man in our image, after our likeness...."
This right here debunks the Jewish monotheistic Yaweh myth.
The extra-terrestrial God, known as Ea [Satan] created human beings through genetic engineering, and several other Gods/Goddesses were involved in the creation. See the image of the Sumerian Creation below. This was originally carved in rock, thousands of years old; predating Judeo/Christianity.
THE FLOOD
The Flood Story from Gilgamesh predates the Christian account by well over 1,000 years or more.
The Judeo/Christian Bible claims that "Yaweh" incited the flood. In truth, "Enlil" allowed the flood to take place. Tracing Enlil's origins here on earth, we have found he is also known as "Bel" which evolved into the name "Baal" and eventually "Beelzebub" who was God of the Philistines.

>>132316105

The "Flood" is another ancient ALLEGORY that was STOLEN and corrupted from the original Pagan religions and has to do with the flood of energy during the working of the Magnum Opus, after which there are visions of colors indicating an important stage has passed. The allegory of the colors is where the Jewish scriptwriters got the "rainbow" and "Jacob's coat of colors" [the aura]. Allegories and CONCEPTS were STOLEN and corrupted into unsavory Jewish characters for Gentiles to slavishly worship. Sacred religious teachings intended for humanity to evolve spiritually were desecrated and replaced with Jewish literary trash. These FICTITIOUS Jewish characters have NOTHING whatsoever to do with spirituality or advancing one's soul.
"Noah" built an ark
EA warned "ZIUSUDRA" aka "UTNAPISHTIM," not "Noah" about the impending flood and instructed him on building an ark. The legend is Sumerian and Akkadian/Babylonian in origin. The "Atrahasis Epic" is the Akkadian/Babylonian account of the Great Flood.
A "dove" returned to the ark with an olive branch signifying the flood was over and the waters receded. In the original Sumerian account, a RAVEN, instead of a "dove" finds dry land. 6
THE TOWER OF BABEL
AGAIN, more than one God is involved. Also, the Gods departed from the Earth during the flood. Note "GODS."
The Bible claims that "Yaweh" confused the languages of the people's constructing the Tower of Babel. This is not so. AGAIN, the Jewish authors of the Judeo/Christian Bible screw up and evidence of more than one God is plain to see:
Genesis Chapter 11; verse 7:
"Let us go down and there confound their language that they may not understand one another's speech." AGAIN, more than one God is involved. Note the "us."

>>132316234

The "Tower of Babel" is another ALLEGORY. In ancient times, humans could communicate telepathically, without words. This was taken from us, but is now becoming a reality again as many of us are experiencing this through the opening of the mind and soul through power meditation.
THE TEN COMMANDMENTS
Many of the Old Testament laws, along with the Ten Commandments were stolen from:
The Code of Hammurabi
Below is a photo of the basalt stele showing the Sumerian Sun God Shamash giving Hammurabi the tablet listing the laws. "Shamash" is also known as "Azazel," the leader of the so-called "Fallen Angels," the "Igigi" Nordic extra-terrestrials who took human wives.
Example: Exodus 20:
16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

Stolen from the Code of Hammurabi, 3: "If a seignior came forward with false testimony in a case, and has not proved the word which he spoke, if that case was a case involving a life, that seignior shall be put to death."


More stolen from the Code of Hammurabi:
Exodus 21:24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,

Hammurabi 196: "If a seignior has destroyed the eye of a member of the aristocracy, they shall destroy his eye."
Hammurabi 200: "if a seignior has knocked out a tooth of a seignior of his own rank, they shall knock out his tooth."

>>132315509
Alexander didn't give a shit about governing though so why wouldn't he be fine as long as they weren't trying to reclaim land he conquered?

>>132316316
The Sumerian Code
The Ur-Nammu Code is the oldest Ancient Near Eastern law code recovered by archeologists. The Sumerian Code from 1800 BCE belongs to this oldest enduring legal tradition.
The Hittite Code
While Hittite law was similar in many ways to the Hammurabi law codes the “Hittite Code” containing two hundred paragraphs of regulations demonstrates a tolerance for sexual immorality with a strong emphasis upon financial concerns. The Hittites cultivated barley and wheat, brewed a barley beer. Silver pieces were circulated as currency.
The Middle Assyrian Code Decreed by Tiglath-Pileser I, Emperor of Assyria from 1115- 1077 BCE. Originally a legal code emphasizing the social concerns and interests of the Assyrian Government. Discovered in 1903 at Ashur in Iraq. Written in Cuneiform on 15 baked clay tablets. Numerous laws in the biblical books of Exodus, Deuteronomy and Leviticus have been stolen from The Assyrian Code.
The Neo-Babylonian Code
The writings in the biblical book of PROVERBS were STOLEN from numerous sources:
The Words of Ahiqar
Ahiqar was an advisor to Sennacherib, king of Assyria from 704-681 BCE. In 1906 German archaeologists excavated a copy of his teachings, inscribed upon eleven sheets of palimpsest papyrus, from the debris of Elephantine which is today part of the city of Aswan in Southern Egypt.
Parallels:

Whoso curseth his father or his mother, his lamp shall be put out in obscure darkness. Prov.20:20

STOLEN from:
"Whosoever takes no pride in the names of his father and mother, may the sun not shine upon him." Ahiqar 9:137
He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him;
Prov. 13:24

STOLEN from:
"With-hold not thy son from the rod, else thou wilt not be able to save him from wickedness." Ahiqar 6:81

>>132316369
Through patience a ruler can be persuaded, and a gentle tongue can break a bone.
Prov. 25:15

STOLEN from:
Soft is the utterance of a king; yet it is sharper and stronger than a two-edged knife." Ahiqar 7:105
The Teachings of Amen-em-opet
Amen-em-opet, son of Ka-nakht, taught in Egypt between 1200 - 1000 BCE. The text is found in British Museum Papyrus 10474 and a portion on a writing tablet in Turin, Italy. The papyrus is said to have come from Thebes and is speculated to be of the 10th and 6th centuries BCE.

Parallels:

Pay attention and listen to the sayings of the wise; apply your heart to what I teach, for it is pleasing when you keep them in your heart and have all of them ready on your lips.
Prov. 17-18

STOLEN from:
Give they ears, hear what is said,
Give they heart to understand them
Let them rest in the casket of thy belly
That they may be a key in they heart."
Amen-em-opet 3:10

Do not exploit the poor because they are poor and do not crush the needy in court.
Prov. 22:22

STOLEN from:
"Guard thyself against robbing the oppressed
And against overbearing the disabled."
Amen-em-opet 2:1

If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; if he is thirsty give him water to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head and the Lord will reward you.
Prov. 25:21-22

STOLEN from:
"Leave him in the arms of the god;
Fill his belly with bread of thine
So that he may be sated and may be ashamed."
Amen-em-opet 5:8

Do not move and ancient boundry stone or encroach on the fields of the fatherless, for their Defender is strong; he will take up their case against you.
Prov. 23:10-11

STOLEN from:
"Do not carry off the landmark at the boundaries of the arable land
Nor disturb the position of the measuring cord
Be not greedy after a cubit of land
Nor encroach upon the boundaries of a widow."
Amen-em-opet 7:12-15

>>132316498
Better a little with the fear of the Lord than great wealth with turmoil
Prov. 15:16
Better a little with righteousness than much gain with injustice.
Prov. 16:8

STOLEN from:
Better is a measure that the god gives thee,
Than five thousand taken illegally."
Amen-em-opet 8:19
[This one also smacks of the Nazarene feeding the "five thousand."]
Better a meal of vegetables where there is love than a fattened calf with hatred. Prov. 15:17
Better a dry crust with peace and quiet than a house full of feasting, with strife. Prov. 17:1

STOLEN from:
"Better is bread when the heart is happy
Than riches with sorrow."
Amen-em-opet 9:9
Do not make friends with a hot-tempered man, do not associate with one easily angered, or you may learn his ways and get yourself ensnared, Prov. 22:24-25

STOLEN from:
"Do not greet thy heated in thy violence
Nor hurt thy own heart thereby"
Amen-em-opet 13:8

You will vomit up the little you have eaten and will have wasted your compliments.
Prov. 23:8

STOLEN from:
"The mouthful of bread too great thou swallowest and vomitest up."
Amen-em-opet 14:13

Do not boast about tomorrow, for you do not know what a day may bring forth.
Prov. 27:1

STOLEN from:
"Do not spend the night fearful of the morrow
At daybreak what is the morrow like?
Man knows not what the morrow is like."
Amen-eo-opet 19:11

Many are the plans in a man’s heart, but it is the Lord’s purpose that prevails. Prov. 19:21
In his heart a man plans his course, but the Lord determines his steps.
Prov. 16:9

STOLEN from:
"One thing are the words which men say
Another is that which God does."
Amen-em-opet 19:15

Have I not written thirty sayings for you, sayings of counsel and knowledge.
Prov. 22:20

STOLEN from:
"See thou these thirty chapters
They entertain; they instruct
They are the foremost of all books."
Amen-em-opet 27:5

>>132316623
The Teachings of Ptah-Hotep
Ptah-Hotep taught around 2450 BCE, during the 5th Dynasty of The Old Kingdom of Egypt. His teachings were preserved on both clay tablets and papyrus sheets and are presently at the Bibliothéque Nationale in Paris. In addition to the book of Proverbs, many of the writings in the books of Ecclesiastes and Sirach were also stolen from the Teachings of Ptah-Hotep.
Egyptian Love Songs
The Egyptian Love Songs are 1,000+ years older than those in the Song of Solomon. The parallels are unmistakable. The Papyrus Harris 500 was discovered at Thebes in the Ramesseum Complex in the Karnak Temple.
The Visions of Nefertiti
Both the biblical books of "Kings" and "Daniel" echo the scenario of entertaining a king along with the prediction of his downfall. The theme of the slave who would be king is repeated in "The Story of Hagar [Genesis chapters 16 and 21]. The Visions of Nefertiti dates back to the reign of the Pharaoh Snefru [2680- 2565 BCE]. He calls for Nefertiti to entertain him. Nefertiti predicts the downfall of the Old Kingdom and the establishment of a new Dynasty by Amen-em-het I [1991- 1786 BCE].
Also, most of what was written in the biblical books of Exodus, Leviticus and Deuteronomy was taken from the above- NOT from "Yaweh." There are xians who are stupid enough to believe their "Yaweh" is the only god. "No Gods before me."

MORE STOLEN:

The Story of Joseph and Potipher's wife; Genesis Chapter 39. STOLEN from The Story of Anubis and Bata [Egyptian in origin].

PARALLELS TO THE MOSES STORY:
The birth of Sargon
The birth of Horus

>>132316623
>egipsian shit
>we wuz
come on

>>132316703
1. The secrecy factor surrounding the birth
2. The placing in a reed basket, covered with bitumen
3. The setting in a river
4. The recovery and adoption Much of the biblical book of PSALMS was stolen from:
The Hymn to the Aton
The Hymn to the Aton can be found in the Tomb of Eye. 1365- 1348 BCE.
The Stories of Ba'al and Anat
Inscribed upon six clay tablets, in the Ugaritic Language; cuneiform script. Circa 1400 BCE.
The Lament for Ur
Many of the writings in the biblical book of Joshua were stolen from:

The El Amarna Letters
The Stele of Merneptah
More stolen writings in the biblical book of Judges:

The Story of Aqhat
The Diary of Wen-Amon
The Gezer Almanac
The biblical books of Samuel and Kings also contain much stolen material from:

The Mari Prophecies
The Stele of Mesha
The Karatepe Inscription
The Annals of Shalmaneser III
The Black Obelisk of Shalmaneser III
The Annals of Tiglath-Pileser III
The Annals of Sargon II
The Siloam Inscription
The Yavne-Yam Inscription
The Lachlish Letters
The Arad Ostraca
The Annals of Sennacherib
The Annals of Nebuchadnezzar II
More stolen material in the biblical books of Ezra and Nehemiah from:

The Cylinder of Cyrus

>>132316763
More stolen stories and writings in the biblical books of Job and Ecclesiastes:

The Story of Keret
Here is the original story of Job, written in the Ugaritic language [Cuneiform Script], composed circa 1400 BCE by "Ilimilku The Scribe." This epic involves "Keret" and the God "El." NOT Job and jehova. Keret's family tradgedies and illness are comparable with the story of Job. In the original tale, "Satan" never even entered into the picture.
The Sufferer and the Soul
The Farmer and the Courts
The Sufferer and the Friend
As we can see from the above, the Christian "religion" is based upon stolen material that has been twisted, warped and distorted to manipulate, confuse and incite fear into humanity. It has taken the ORIGINAL GOD AND CREATOR OF HUMANITY EA/ENKI aka SATAN/LUCIFER and turned him into an assumed enemy of humanity. "We shall destroy God" -- The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. Christianity has been used to blaspheme, ridicule and malign the Old Gods, create estrangement and enmity from legitimate dieties of which it replaced with the false god "Yaweh/Jehova." In addition, this monstrous program is used as a tool to create a defenseless mentality; that of a slave, to psychologically disarm the Gentile populace into accepting communism, another Jewish brotherhood program.

>>132316882
"IN THE SECRET OF MY KNOWLEDGE THERE IS NO GOD BUT ME"
-SATAN
From "Peace Be Unto Him"
1 The Christ Conspiracy, The Greatest Story Ever Sold by Acharya S pages 94-95
2 The Stairway to Heaven by Zecharia Sitchin, page 99.
3 World Book Encyclopedia article on Zoroastrianism, © 1989
4 A History of the Devil by Gerald Messadié
5 Cambridge illustrated History of Religions, edited by John Bowker. Pages 216- 217
6 Mesopotamia by Pamela F. Service, page 44.


Other References:

The Holy Bible- King James Version

The Ancient Near East, Volume I, edited by James B. Pritchard © 1958

Old Testament Parallels: Laws and Stories From the Ancient Near East by Victor H. Matthews and Don C. Benjamin© 1991

A History of the Devil by Gerald Messadié© 1993, 1996

Encyclopedia Britannica

>>132316762
I checked into this and all the "Amen-em-opet " stuff is legit. It was freaking me out. Look into the Egyptian stuff he quotes.

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>>132315883
Here's the website this is from. Have to break the link because it thinks it's spam.

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>>132306440
This is not really true. The primary historical account is Josephus, and that becomes suspect when you realize Josephus was a Jewish elite who turned against his kind and was adopted by Vespasian into the Flavian court, where he wrote these historical documents.

The book explains how the early martyrs were probably messianic Jewish terrorists (e.g. Sicarii) who refused to submit to Rome until Titus Flavius destroyed Jerusalem. They weren't called Christians (a greek word) until much later (probably around 100 AD) and by then history was being rewritten by the Romans to justify the authority of the early church, whose power started to solidify under Constantine.

Other early martyrs were probably Gnostics and other pagans who called themselves Christians, and were purged to consolidate power with the orthodox, literalist views of the Church. Again, you have to remember that the official history was written by the winners.

>>132316762
Notice this guy doesn't go overboard like the Zeitgiest guy. I think Zietgiest was controlled opposition, whereas this seems much more accurate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instruction_of_Amenemope
Comparison of texts

A number of passages in the Instruction of Amenemope have been compared with the Book of Proverbs, including:

(Proverbs 22:17-18):"Incline thine ear, and hear the words of the wise, And apply thine heart to my doctrine; For it is pleasant if thou keep them in thy belly, that they may be established together upon thy lips"

(Amenemope, ch. 1):"Give thine ear, and hear what I say, And apply thine heart to apprehend; It is good for thee to place them in thine heart, let them rest in the casket of thy belly; That they may act as a peg upon thy tongue"[49]

(Proverbs 22:22):"Rob not the poor, for he is poor, neither oppress (or crush) the lowly in the gate."

(Amenemope, ch. 2):"Beware of robbing the poor, and oppressing the afflicted."[49]

(Proverbs 22:24-5): "Do not befriend the man of anger, Nor go with a wrathful man, Lest thou learn his ways and take a snare for thy soul."

(Amenemope, ch. 10): "Associate not with a passionate man, Nor approach him for conversation; Leap not to cleave to such an one; That terror carry thee not away."[49]

(Proverbs 22:29):"[if you] You see a man quick in his work, before kings will he stand, before cravens, he will not stand."

(Amenemope, ch. 30):"A scribe who is skillful in his business findeth worthy to be a courtier"[49]

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>>132315883
(Proverbs 23:1):"When thou sittest to eat with a ruler, Consider diligently what is before thee; And put a knife to thy throat, If thou be a man given to appetite. Be not desirous of his dainties, for they are breads of falsehood."

(Amenemope, ch. 23): "Eat not bread in the presence of a ruler, And lunge not forward(?) with thy mouth before a governor(?). When thou art replenished with that to which thou has no right, It is only a delight to thy spittle. Look upon the dish that is before thee, And let that (alone) supply thy need."[49] (see above)

(Proverbs 23:4-5):"Toil not to become rich, And cease from dishonest gain; For wealth maketh to itself wings, Like an eagle that flieth heavenwards"

(Amenemope, ch. 7):"Toil not after riches; If stolen goods are brought to thee, they remain not over night with thee. They have made themselves wings like geese. And have flown into the heavens."[49]

(Proverbs 14:7):"Speak not in the hearing of a fool, for he will despise the wisdom of thy words"

(Amenemope, ch. 21):"Empty not thine inmost soul to everyone, nor spoil (thereby) thine influence"[49]

(Proverbs 23:10): "Remove not the widows landmark; And enter not into the field of the fatherless."

(Amenemope, ch. 6): "Remove not the landmark from the bounds of the field...and violate not the widows boundary"[49]

(Proverbs 23:12):"Apply thine heart unto instruction and thine ears to the words of knowledge"

(Amenemope, ch. 1):"Give thine ears, hear the words that are said, give thine heart to interpret them."[49]

>>132298322
>Caesar's Messiah
>cover picture is a bust of Titus

>>132317437
What the fuck, stop spamming this thread with your copy pasta you stupid nigger.

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>>132317572
Reminds me of this.

>>132317606
Read it and weep.

>>132317771
Nobody is going to wade through all that shit. Post some salient pieces, then tell us where we can find out more.

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>>132315502
Why did the Romans persecute the shit out of Christians post Jesus then?

I love how xcucks post walls of text from the same infallible book authenticated by the same infallible book, trying to prove their infallible opinions.

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>>132317863
If ever there was a copypasta to wade through, it's the one i just posted. Trust me it's full of redpills. Look up the ancient Egyptian stuff.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instruction_of_Amenemope

Go to the "Comparison of texts" section.

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^this was what i was quoting. Google around for the writings/Instruction of "Amen-em-opet" or "Amenemope" and you see tons of parallels with the bible.

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>>132298710
This.

>>132307787
try rome, dipshit.

>>132317921
That's addressed in the book and I wrote another post about it.

Until Constantine, there was still a lot of different competition between religions. Up until that point, Christians were largely still the enemy of Rome, since remember the New Testament was created to pacify subordinates. So they could be openly slaughtered.

Anyway, Christianity started catching on with the Roman military. There's archeological evidence of this (crosses carved in forts). Constantine was probably a pagan, but once he realized that he made up the stories about seeing Christ to rally his Christian troops against Maxentius at Milvian Bridge. After that, he promoted Christianity to consolidate his power, although all the monuments (arch, statues) were pagan and really deifying himself.

After Constantine used Christianity to consolidate his power in Rome, then you started seeing the Holy Roman Empire start to develop and Christianity becoming official.

But before then, it was open season on the "Christians", some of whom were probably Jewish terrorists during the Flavian wars and before Christianity was official, then later some were probably Gnostics getting wiped out by orthodox christians.

>>132317921
I know this seems shit-tier because it's on the history channel, but it covers the development of Christianity under Constantine pretty well:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY1_sYnr0gE

>>132318683
I haven't watched the documentary yet, but from the title it sounds like the Romans actually invented Jesus? That doesn't quite fit the timeline. Didn't they accept Christianity after his death?

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>>132318518
>Pre-Christian European empires were the envy of the world. Shove your bible back up your ass. Many founding fathers were deists with questionable faith in Christianity.
>Pre-Christian European empires
>European empires
>empires
>s

>>132319387
There were many powerful empires across Europe. Read a book faggot.

>>132298322
There's plenty of historical evidence of a "Jesus of Nazareth" existing. He'll there's more proof of his existence than there's proof of Alexander of Macedonia existing

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Christianity is a Hellenized continuation of the ancient Hebrew religion - it is actually the conclusion to it as well. The Hebrews who rejected Jesus as the messiah went on to form the Talmudic "Judaism" we know of today not 70 years after the death of Jesus in 33 AD. The Jews who would not accept that the door to salvation had been opened not just to all Jews, but to everyone on Earth by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ formed a counter-religion based on the notion that they themselves were supposed to inherit the world - not all of humanity.

The Hebrews were, like most peoples at that time, very ethnocentric. It was the Greeks who were beginning to develop and popularize the concept of moral universality for the world at that time - we see this start with Plato's concept of "forms" as universal objects and entities. The apostles, who spoke Greek and were culturally as Hellenic as they were Hebraic due to Alexander's conquest of the region 3 centuries earlier, were no doubt influenced by Plato, who was in fact a monotheist.

Jesus's life on Earth and his deeds take the Hebrew prophecy to a universal conclusion - which was a revolutionary concept not well understood by anyone, especially the Hebrews, at the time. So their rash reaction to it can be understood as fundamentally... well, reactionary.

cont.

Fake news

>>132319490
>There were many powerful empires across Europe. Read a book faggot.
The only one that was "the envy of the world" would've been rome and even at that time they were still probably slightly worse than the Han chinese. Before then Europe didn't really have much more value than the rest of the world.

>>132298322
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFtFUX10oZw

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>>132319519
Nope. They have stuff Alexander wrote as well as his death mask. They got nothing of Jesus. Not even any historical accounts.

>>132319490
WE

>>132319196
Yes, the theory is that the Flavians invented Christianity with the help of Josephus, the Herods, and the Alexanders, to subdue messianic sects of Judaism that would not submit to Caesar.

The Roman elites never "accepted" Christianity. They always saw themselves as gods and divine rulers. The Romans were constantly conquering regions and fusing them together to bring new cultures into the empire (syncretism).

Christianity happened to catch on with the Roman military (probably because of its similarity to Mithraism), and Constantine used it opportunistically as a political tool to climb to power.

>>132298322

Epic level stupidity.

quick rundown?

>>132319558
As far as the myths, legends, and concepts being "stolen" goes: do you not understand what Christianity claims? It claims to be the universal, revealed truth - so there's no denying that other peoples and cultures would have tasted of the ideas in the Bible. It is important to note that the Biblical stories that occur also in other, older nations are elaborated in the Bible - they're not direct rip-offs. What else would you expect if those stories were meant to reveal truth? If Jesus of Nazareth really is the true Christ, the logos, wouldn't he be expected to resemble the heavens which were the source of inspiration for Mithras, Apollo, Vishnu, Osiris, and Enki? The claim is that Jesus is the son of God, so of course he would have the attributes these figures were also supposed to have - they were inspired by astrological phenomenon.

If the Bible is the revealed word of God, of course it would contain the wisdom of the other peoples who attempted to discover the truth for themselves. Of course there would be a creation story and a fall, a flood, an exodus - not because the concepts were stolen, but because the previous were vein attempts at understanding that which they had not recorded by writing, that which could only be revealed to them by God. it's because these things actually happened in some sense or another. The Bible reveals what other cultures had suspected, but corrects them where they were wrong.

So listing countless examples of where Biblical stories can be found in previous myths is pointless; listing examples of other figures similar to Jesus is pointless - the true Christ SHOULD resemble astrology; the Bible SHOULD contain the wisdom of the people who came before the Hebrews. In the person of Jesus, in His life, the allegories of the ancient astrology were manifest literally - myth became reality, so the allegory was not JUST a story, but ALSO a historical account.

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>>132319558
Plato pretty explicitly lays out his multicultural views in "The Republic" with the Noble Lie and him promoting a version of female equality. Back then there were no inoculations and vaccines, so you could only go so far out from home without dying. He probably never foresaw intermingling with niggers and low IQ races.

>>132319835
Ancient Greeks spread western philosophy and science to backwards, superstitious people and revolutionized them. Visigoths fought off steppe hordes and gave the Romans a run for their money. Northern empires were no pushovers. Han were definitely OP before the mongols ripped them part and probably spread low IQ steppe nigger genes around. Rome was able to win against them though, I've never looked into it much. Look at all the eastern empires today. Mostly third world hellholes.

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>>132316623

These examples all come from Proverbs - 1 book of the Bible written as a collection of proverbs from Egypt and Judea.

Let's see where Matthew, John, or Luke are "stolen".

Why are there always american kike flag fags that attack christianity ?

>>132320997
What does that have to do with what I was saying about universal morality?

If truth is singular and absolute, then there is ONE best way for everyone to behave. This way is laid out by Jesus Christ, who claims to be "the way, the truth, and the life".

>>132320583
This is exactly how I interpreted the previous dying and resurrecting god myths, too. That's still how I see Christianity, as a culmination of those myths.

But the Caesar's Messiah book changed my perspective on the historical account. The relation of the New Testament to The Wars of the Jews written by Josephus Flavius (the primary historical account of Jesus) is shocking. In the book, Atwill outlines how and why the Flavians created the gospels as political propaganda in their conquest against the Jews. It makes /way/ more sense than the literal interpretation of believing in a virgin birth and rising from the dead.

>>132299880
>They literally jacked the Jesus story off of a mix of earlier Godmen myths.
lol this retard still believes that debunked zeitgeist shit

>>132298322
I make it a rule to never listen to yuropoor accounts of history

if you knew what you were talking about, you wouldn't arrogantly reminisce on your jewish looting empire.

Check it, it's gold.
24-karat

>>132321233
I don't know, but I'm gonna start killing them.

>>132321088
>>132320583
They didn't quote where they heard these from. It's obviously a retelling to make the kikes look like the center of wisdom. They're just standing on the shoulders of great minds in the past and taking credit for it all.

>>132321258
I was just spit balling while you were cont.

>>132321459
Zietgiest was bullshit, and probably controlled opposition. read some of these.
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>>132321557
Hurr durr don't listen tot he people that actually live there. Listen to my bumbfuck interpretation from half way around the world.

>>132321233
Because it's an obvious ripoff of earlier works, designed to control people.

>>132299880
There's way more to it than that...

I don't believe the literal historical account, but like you said I think it's worth promoting to fight degeneracy. It's a bulwark against Islam, and if people come to realize the pagan roots of Christianity an alliance could be formed.

>>132321305
I'll look into it more, but I find it incredibly hard to believe that a Roman general and his historian created the gospels to subjugate the Jews, when the same gospels are full of condemnations of the authority of the Romans. I mean, the mass conversions of Roman soldiers to Christianity ultimately led to Constantine adopting Christianity as Rome's official religion - which I'm certain Flavius would not have wanted. It would be like the US government writing a treatise on the importance of racial nationalism and resistance to liberal democracy, and then spreading it to everyone by Hollywood and internet.

>>132321767
get scalped, nigger. I'll have you hanged from a tree real quick.

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>>132316623
>egypt
>polytheist
>having monotheism in their religious writings

>>132321459
http://pocm.info/

>>132321767
>They didn't quote where they heard these from. It's obviously a retelling to make the kikes look like the center of wisdom. They're just standing on the shoulders of great minds in the past and taking credit for it all.
I agree, but that doesn't invalidate the Bible or Christ - it just shows that the people chosen to do the job of preserving God's law and fulfilling His prophecy on Earth were just as self-centered and malicious as the other peoples.

The Egyptians claimed to be the first people ever. This kind of hubris was very common in a nationalistic world devoid of scientific knowledge.

>>132298322

If it was invented by the romans then explain the eastern churches like the St Thomas Christians in India that were using a bible from before the council of nicea.

>>132316623
>>132321908
Which reminds me:
>>132321767
You are aware that the Hebrews resided in Egypt for centuries prior to the Old Testament being written, correct?

Islam is the only religion in the world that is anti-pissrael, something that you vehement jew on a stick worshippers dont have the balls to do.

>>132322253
So the Egyptians, who were polytheists, had monotheism in their religious writings? Despite them having many gods, they seem to have written about only one god in that parallelization of yours. Seems legit.

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>>132321557
>>132321894
Cheka did nothing wrong.

>>132321818
You don't have to be a spiritual nutjob to hate Muslims. Notice how all the Christian armies are too pussy to actually genocide them? They're so tsundere with their sandnigger brethren.

>>132321908
Where does it explicitly state monotheism?
There was one or more Pharoes who tried to make themselves into the monotheist god king.

>>132322091
It doesn't validate the Bible or Christ. It's like someone retelling Lord of the Rings later on and taking credit for it.

>>132322253
Yes, then they lied about being enslaved and invented the exodus story to help secure their place inside a sympathy bubble.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instruction_of_Amenemope

Instruction of Amenemope (also called Instructions of Amenemopet, Wisdom of Amenemopet) is a literary work composed in Ancient Egypt, most likely during the Ramesside Period (ca. 1300–1075 BCE)

^Where Hebrews older than that?

>>132322480
Quote the exact phrase you're talking about. I believe they are referring to one god of their many.

>>132298710
Lmao @ my English teacher senior year unironically believing Shakespeare wrote the new testament.

>>132322328
John 8:44 - Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Revelation 2:9 - I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:9 - Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

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>>132299880
>>132300375
>>132302902
>>132305021
>>132315452
>>132321818

ATHEISTS KEKS BTFO

>>132322328
You fags have such terrible armies you're just making Jew haters look bad. The Six Day War should have been a cakewalk, but you inbred sandniggers fucked that up.

>>132322480
>>132322536
>>132322594
>Where does it explicitly state monotheism?
>Quote the exact phrase you're talking about

You need to read your own sources:
"One thing are the words which men say
Another is that which God does."
Amen-em-opet 19:15

Before you try to discredit the Bible and make it appear it was stolen from civilizations near it, at least try to fix the glaring holes and facts in contradiction with ACTUAL historical and religious beliefs of the time.

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>>132321767
People need to be controlled you retarded kike faggot.
People don't know whats good for them and can't make decisions by themselves.
God is real and if your people decide to worship the devil you'll just go to hell. So have a pleasant time while you're still alive in this world because you'll have to experience eternal torment forever for continuing to defy God and obstruct His divine will and transgress His laws and mechanisms.
It sickens me how kikes like you manipulated by the devils think they can assume the position of God in the lives of "ordinary" people and then proceed to fuck up the entire earth and themselves because you become so entrenched in that shit there's no way back.
Pawns of forces unseen chasing a shekel on a stick. So dumb , so blind , so disgusting and revolting , so unclean and and lacking truth and grace. Trully a monstrous sight to behold.

>>132322480
I was agreeing with you, dipshit. See how the third post I linked wasn't yours - you know, the one right before I made my point...

>>132298322
>Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus

The mos asinine idea in the history of human creation.

In one of the apocryphal texts Jesus literally says "I am the fire that will burn down Rome."

Jesus also hung out with a man named Simon the Zealot. He had an actual zealot in his apostles. Only an IMBECILE with no knowledge of history would think that Jesus was a creation of the Romans. It's embarrassing that this even exists.

>>132322719
He's referring to a single, specific god. That's not proof of monotheistic belief.

>>132322724
Nice world salad. Not everyone is retarded like you. Your sandnigger lies gaslight people into insanity.

The clearly Chink girl narrating is too annoying. No thanks. Peddle your shit elsewhere.

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>>132322770
I was adding sarcasm to your point because it shows how glaringly retarded the points they are making. I wasn't disagreeing with you there "dipshit".

>>132322831
Sure, because the myriads of gods of Egypt each with specific roles and powers can have omnipotence. Nice try. Please read your own sources instead of copy-pasting. pseudo-intellectual Pagan/atheist/satanist fedoras are embarrassing.

>>132322328
Islam was the biggest kike enabler until the last century. Good job proving how historically retarded you are.

>>132321842
On its face, I agree it's hard to believe. The documentary is a good introduction, but the literary analysis in the book really nails things down. I was floored by Atwill's account of the burial and resurrection.

Anyway, another thing to keep in mind is that it wasn't just Titus and Josephus behind this. The Romans had an entire bureaucracy of priests set up managing the religious orders in Rome, plus he had the help of two powerful families, the Herods and Alexanders (they were intermarried with the Flavians).

Josephus was a key player because as a Jew he had the legitimacy to write the history of the Jews (Wars, Antiquities) and since he was raised as an elite, he had a Jewish education that was valuable to the Flavians. Upon his surrender, he gave Vespasian the idea that he, the Roman Caesar, was the true fulfillment of the messianic star prophecy of the Jews, which granted him adoption into the Flavian court. Plus, he probably helped develop the typological literary structure of the New Testament, making it appear as a legitimate Hebrew text.

>>132322645
Anyone who says "Behold!" is nothing but a magician. Aka bullshit.

>>132322675
Not an atheist retard. This conversation is way above your head. Just remember Christians good, Muslims bad.

>>132298322
>The Romans subverted themselves to eliminate their own religion!

Crazy made up BS theory to excuse someone's lack of faith

>>132323032
Many are the plans in a man’s heart, but it is the Lord’s purpose that prevails. Prov. 19:21
In his heart a man plans his course, but the Lord determines his steps.
Prov. 16:9

STOLEN from:
"One thing are the words which men say
Another is that which God does."
Amen-em-opet 19:15

He's referring to the action of a single god. IDK why you think that proves monotheistic belief.

>>132299967
>Yeah, let's worship a whipped Jews, give Jews control of money lending, and turn the other cheek.
Protestant education.
Sad.

>>132323480
Funny thing is they're so adamant in trying to discredit Christianity that they refuse to even see their own sources. Anyone who knows actual history will find their conspiracy theories laughable. See:

>>132322719
>>132316623

>>132322675
I already said Zietgiest was bullshit. Fucking wacko.

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“I know men; and I tell you that Jesus Christ is not a man. Superficial minds see a resemblance between Christ and the founders of empires, and the gods of other religions. That resemblance does not exist. There is between Christianity and whatever other religions the distance of infinity. Everything in Christ astonishes me. His spirit overawes me, and His will confounds me. Between Him and whoever else in the world, there is no possible term of comparison. He is truly a being by Himself. His ideas and sentiments, the Truth which He announces, His manner of convincing, are not explained either by human organization of by the ordinary nature of things. The nearer I approach, the more carefully I examine, everything is above me - everything remains grand, of a grandeur which overpowers. His religion is a revelation from an intelligence which is certainly not that of man. One can absolutely find nowhere, but in Him alone, the imitation or the example of His life. I search in vain through history to find the similar to Jesus Christ, or anything which can approach the gospel. Neither history, nor humanity, nor the ages, nor nature, offer me anything with which I am able to compare or explain it. Here everything is extraordinary.” … Napoleon Bonaparte

http://www.stempublishing.com/magazines/bt/BT17/1889_319_Napoleons_Testimony.html
https://poptop.hypermart.net/testnapb.html
http://the-american-catholic.com/2008/12/28/napoleon-on-christ/
http://www.angelfire.com/sc3/myredeemer/Evidencep17.html
http://www.wnd.com/2016/08/the-worldwide-legacy-of-napoleon-bonaparte/

>>132323567
Nothing alike.

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"Well then, I will tell you. Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne and I myself have founded great empires; but upon what did these creations of our genius depend? Upon force. Jesus alone founded His empire upon love, and to this very day millions will die for Him. . . . I think I understand something of human nature; and I tell you, all these were men, and I am a man; none else is like Him: Jesus Christ was more than a man. . . . I have inspired multitudes with such an enthusiastic devotion that they would have died for me . . . but to do this is was necessary that I should be visibly present with the electric influence of my looks, my words, of my voice. When I saw men and spoke to them, I lightened up the flame of self-devotion in their hearts. . . . Christ alone has succeeded in so raising the mind of man toward the unseen, that it becomes insensible to the barriers of time and space. Across a chasm of eighteen hundred years, Jesus Christ makes a demand which is beyond all others difficult to satisfy; He asks for that which a philosopher may often seek in vain at the hands of his friends, or a father of his children, or a bride of her spouse, or a man of his brother. He asks for the human heart; He will have it entirely to Himself. He demands it unconditionally; and forthwith His demand is granted. Wonderful! In defiance of time and space, the soul of man, with all its powers and faculties, becomes an annexation to the empire of Christ. All who sincerely believe in Him, experience that remarkable, supernatural love toward Him. This phenomenon is unaccountable; it is altogether beyond the scope of man's creative powers. Time, the great destroyer, is powerless to extinguish this sacred flame; time can neither exhaust its strength nor put a limit to its range. This is it, which strikes me most; I have often thought of it. This it is which proves to me quite convincingly the Divinity of Jesus Christ." ... Testimony at St. Helena - Napoleon Bonaparte

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>>132323567
>writes God with a capital "G" instead of naming a specific deity
>monotheism in a highly polytheistic society
>thinks we're falling for his tinfoil history conspiracy

This is what damage control looks like.

>>132323620
>>132323745
That quote is from ancient Egyptian text. It's translation into English is probably leaving out much subtlety. He very well could be referring to the actions of a God. Capitalization is just what the original writer of the website decided on. Probably capitalized it because a God is an important figure. It's no indication of what the original text meant. That is not proof of monotheism you dumbfuck island spic.

>>132298322
Jews worship a false God.
Jews worship Lucifer, most unknowingly.
Jews killed Jesus.
Jews are awaiting the return of the anti Christ.
Even 9/11 was a sacrifice to bring forth the anti Christ.
Illuminati / Masons / Jews are all the same.
Most Christians are brainwashed into loving Jews.
Christians should hate Jews.
Christianity is the final red pill.
Read the KJB.

>>132322802

> "I am the fire that will burn down Rome."

You are making shit up. Jesus prophecies the destruction of the temple of /Jerusalem/ by the Son of Man in Mark 13.

And who destroyed Jerusalem?

Oh yeah, it was Titus Flavius.

The New Testament is extremely pro-Roman e.g. "give unto Caesar", "turn the other cheek", "if conscripted carry an extra mile"

The apocryphal texts you're referring to are probably the dead sea scrolls which tell a different story and were anti-roman because they were the "real" versions of the texts written by zealots, /not/ the Roman propaganda that became the New Testament used to pacify the zealots.

> He had an actual zealot in his apostles.

That's the whole point of this... to convert the zealots into Christians who would turn the other cheek and submit to Rome, which Jesus taught.

>>132305815
Thanks, anon. You saved me 90 mins.

>>132323669
>>132323702
Didn't Napoleon ban religion, then allow it again when he was running low on money and needed some of those church coffers?

>>132323922
>doesn't name the deity
>ascribes omnipotent power and control over all creation instead of a particular force eg rain, thunder, sunlight, crop production
>b-b-b-b-but.....that quote is from ancient Egyptian text. It's translation into English is probably leaving out much subtlety.

Lol, so your argument is that it wasn't translated properly is no different from muslims who say "B-b-but Quran should be read in Arab! MISTRANSLATION!" Get the fuck out of here with your shaky arguments.

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>>132322253
>You are aware that the Hebrews resided in Egypt for centuries prior to the Old Testament being written, correct?

Hebrews came after the quoted Egyptian philosophy and are proven liars(Exodus).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Egypt#Ancient_times

Genesis and Exodus
Aramaic. Marriage Document of Ananiah and Tamut, July 3, 449 B.C.E. Brooklyn Museum

The Book of Genesis and Book of Exodus describe a period of Hebrew servitude in ancient Egypt, during decades of sojourn in Egypt, the escape of well over a million Israelites from the Delta, and the three-month journey through the wilderness to Sinai.[4] The historical evidence does not back this account.[5] Israelites first appear in the archeological record on the Merneptah Stele from between 1208-3 BCE at the end of the Bronze Age. A reasonably Bible-friendly interpretation is that they were a federation of Habiru tribes of the hill-country around the Jordan River. Presumably, this federation consolidated into the kingdom of Israel, and Judah split from that, during the dark age that followed the Bronze. The Bronze Age term "Habiru" was less specific than the Biblical "Hebrew". The term referred simply to Levantine nomads, of any religion or ethnicity. Mesopotamian, Hittite, Canaanite, and Egyptian sources describe them largely as bandits, mercenaries, and slaves. Certainly, there were some Habiru slaves in ancient Egypt, but native Egyptian kingdoms were not heavily slave-based.[5]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instruction_of_Amenemope

Instruction of Amenemope (also called Instructions of Amenemopet, Wisdom of Amenemopet) is a literary work composed in Ancient Egypt, most likely during the Ramesside Period (ca. 1300–1075 BCE)

>>132324693
You forgot that your "precious" writings doesn't line up with history:

STOLEN from:
"Do not spend the night fearful of the morrow
At daybreak what is the morrow like?
Man knows not what the morrow is like."
Amen-eo-opet 19:11

>monotheism
>in a highly polytheistic society

Why do you keep spamming this thread with your pseudo-intellectual pagan trash bullshit Varg?

>>132324538
You're a low IQ monkey that takes every little letter into it's zealous heart. That quote is from thousands of years ago. IDK exactly what he was referring to. They revered each individual god, the actions of each would have been significant. An action of a god would be enough to write about.

>>132324838
>getting this angry because his damage control failed

For a white guy, you aren't very bright.

>>132324812
Meant this:

STOLEN from:
"One thing are the words which men say
Another is that which God does."
Amen-em-opet 19:15

>belief in a single god
>ancient Egypt

100% historically accurate folks!

>>132324812
WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT QUOTE HAVE TO DO WITH MONOTHEISM!

>>132324887
When did your people first start writing? You don't seem very familiar with it. Writing about the action of a god is not proof of monothiestic belief. Now fuck off and go eat some monkey brains.

>>132323480
What is inexcusable is discarding your God-given rational brain to believe people were born of virgins and resurrected from the dead.

Understanding the true historical underpinnings of the New Testament gives you insight into how to craft religious propaganda to wield political power, and reveals the pagan roots of Christianity.

This is an enormous opportunity to learn methods that can be used to subvert Islam, and also form a strong Western alliance between Christians and Pagans.

>>132298322
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX3RYzQc2Uk
Theory is retarded

>>132324355
It's possible. Then again, they are unusually passionate statements about Christ and Christianity. It's also possible that in the twilight of his life he was coming to terms with things that he'd been reflecting on much of his life without having spoken openly about them. Often this is the case, that as people attempt to reconcile important personal issues which they've deliberated on they allow the weight of the evidence to move them to powerful statements of belief .. to take positions with conviction. As the ferryman approaches people often take a stand on these things.

>>132325017
>When did your people first start writing?

When did you first start reading?

STOLEN from:
"One thing are the words which men say
Another is that which God does."
Amen-em-opet 19:15

>belief in a single god
>ancient Egypt

100% historically accurate folks! You're getting angry in your replies, but it's understandable because it exposes how dumb you are. For the supposed "superior" person between the two of us, you sure are easily swayed by historically inaccurate "facts". You should work for CNN, it will do you wonders.

>>132325135
Not to mention historically "accurate". Notice this tidbit in his tinfoil conspiracy of "muh baybul is stolen from WE WUZ KANG country":

STOLEN from:
"One thing are the words which men say
Another is that which God does."
Amen-em-opet 19:15

>belief in a single god
>ancient Egypt

100% historical scholarly research!

>>132324986
Yes yes you've quoted that many times already. I'm done with your bullshit. Go fuck your cousin about it. That quote is verifiable ancient text. IDK exactly what he meant because it's literally ancient history being translated into a modern language.

https://www.startpage.com/do/search?cmd=process_search&cat=web&query=Amen-em-ope+19%3A15&language=english&no_sugg=1&ff=&nj=1&abp=1

The heart of a man plans his way
But God directs his step.
(Proverbs 16:9)
and
There are many plans in a man's heart
But it is the counsel of God that will stand
(Proverbs 19:21)
can be compared with
God is in his success
Man is in his failure
The words which men say are one thing
The things which God does are another.
(Amenemope xix, 14-17)

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>>132325017
skimmed this thread, saw you slowly getting more irate and butthurt by people questioning this author. can't take it seriously anymore. have you even read the bible? fake news.

>>132325598
>Go fuck your cousin about it.
>white trash telling me to fuck my cousin

Pottery. Also

STOLEN from:
"One thing are the words which men say
Another is that which God does."
Amen-em-opet 19:15

>monotheism
>ancient Egypt

Please pick one Varg. For a supposed "superior race" you sure are embarrassing.

>>132325600
It's a verifiable quote which many sites will link you to, not just the one i posted.
>>132325598
look for the PDF link.

THE TYNDALE BIBLICAL ARCHAEOLOGY LECTURE, 1975*
THE TEACHING OF AMENEMOPE AND ITS
will CONNECTION WITH THE BOOK OF PROVERBS

>>132325714
Why is it i can find that quote referenced on many other sites? Are you saying Amen-em-opet and his writings are fake?

>>132298322
Illogical and filled with historical flaws.

>>132325835
>Why is it i can find that quote referenced on many other sites?

Well let's see. Doing a google search for the quotes you mentioned brings up the following sites:

>perankhgroup
>osirisnet
>scotteriology.wordpress.com
>christiancadre.blogspot.com/
>oaks.nvg.org
>www.boomerinthepew.com

I'm now 100% convinced that you are a scholar of good repute. Just in case you don't get it, that was sarcasm by the way, Varg.

>>132322941
At least i don't cut ppls foreskin and suck infant dicks like you do. Talking about insanity.

>>132325835
>>132325714
>>132326072
Here you fucking island nigger.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/17820288/Comparison-of-Prov-and-Amenemope

Monotheism in Amn
With regard to the long standing debate of monotheism and polytheism of the Egyptianreligion, the predominant view in the nineteenth century was that of a monotheism, more or lessmanifest or hidden. Rouge and Renouf proposed a henotheistic thesis that the unique deity waschosen by the individual. By the end of the century, with the discovery of the totemisticsocieties
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and the Pyramid Texts, it was revealed that the Old Kingdom had been polytheists.3

The pragmatic polytheism school championed by Adolf Erman maintains that the basic thoughtof the Egyptian Religion was built upon the sentiment of fear in face of nature. The archaicdeities eventually evolved towards a monotheistic concept along with the civilization in the 18
th
Dynasty. By the mid-twentieth century, Frankfort introduced the notions of deities as animatingforces of nature. This concept was then popularized by Erik Hornung and is now enjoying arather large consensus.
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Both the Pyramid text and the Coffin Texts show deities holding nets in their hands usingmagic to protect the sungod. Egyptian magic is an energy, which does not require a medium totransmit, that the gods use as a weapon to strike their enemies. Hornung argues that the most powerful weapon is the creative energy of magic available only to the gods. It is through thismagic that the gods impose his will on the land.
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In Amn 19:16-17 it states, “The words mensay are one thing, the deeds of the god are another.”
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Based upon this passage, Hornung arguesthat this magic later comes to be used by mankind, who acts independently and against the gods.But only the will of the gods can produce lasting achievements.
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Despite the energy or magic of a god, man is a created being and he is neither immortal nor omnipotent.

>>132326146
There is always roomfor human initiative. Since evil is inherent in the nonexistent,
29
it is older than the gods and thegods are not responsible for injustice. Though theodicy is not an issue, the power of the deities isresponsible for combating evil driving it out of the existent world.
30
Primary purpose of the Egyptian religion is to live in accordance to with Maat – thedivine cosmos order. Maat is the goddess, the abstract principle and personification. Since Maatis static and unchanging, perfect as introduced at creation, there is no Egyptian eschatology for afinal goal to human history – for the goal is to maintain that order – to renew and revitalize thecultic ritual, which affirms such order. The universe was held together by such myth and culticexpression.

>>132298322
They will never end to destroy christianity BAMN

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>>132326085
I'm atheist, but please do keep straw manning.

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>>132326146
>>132326179
>https://www.scribd.com/
>scholarly

Keep digging that hole, Varg. It's amusing watching you squirm and getting angry over 100% historically accurate "research".

>ancient Egypt
>monotheist

Why do pagan fags and satanists cling to the flimsiest arguments?

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>>132298322

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>>132325714
>In Amn 19:16-17 it states, “The words mensay are one thing, the deeds of the god are another.”

>>132325390
>>132325251
>>132324986
>>132324887
>>132324812
>>132324538
>>132323745
>In Amn 19:16-17 it states, “The words mensay are one thing, the deeds of the god are another.”

^See that you retarded monkey. There is no direct translation from ancient Egyptian into modern English. Every version is a TRANSLATION to the best of the translator's extent. There's bound to be some info lost in the various translations.

Peepo don't think that it do, but it is.

>>132326146
Notice the difference between your previous quotes and this one:

>Egyptian magic is an energy, which does not require a medium totransmit, that the gods
>gods
> Hornung argues that the most powerful weapon is the creative energy of magic available only to the gods.
>gods
>“he words mensay are one thing, the deeds of the god are another
>the god (doesn't ascribe omnipotence; mentions a specific god)
>it is older than the gods and thegods are not responsible for injustice
>the gods

Contrast that to this one:
>"One thing are the words which men say
Another is that which God does."

Now that you've finally admitted to your mistake, congrats on telling us there is no parallel.

>>132326337
You can find Amenemopes's writings on multiple sights and books. They're real get over it.

Scribd is just a hosting site for books and shit. How about you tear into THE ACTUAL BOOK you illiterate island spic.

"Comparison of the Theologies of Prov 22:17-24:22and Amenemope
Philip Pang"

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>>132326278
I wish you were but in essence there is no such thing.

>>132321842
In the theory Flavius is Jesus so I don't know that he wouldn't want the future empire to worship him.

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>>132326720
>multiple sights and books
>sights

I'll try not to laugh on this one.

>>132326773
Not to mention his "sources" are scribd and a bunch of new age web"sights". How can anyone take him seriously?

you'd never see this sort of discussion on reddit

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>>132326835
Not that Ceasar Flavius is Jesus but the he is the Messiah you retard,

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>>132326691
You're a fucking retard. There are no direct translations into English. They're all up to the translator. They're all going to vary a bit. You christnigger bible has multiple interpretations of the translation, but i don't see you chimping about that.

>>132326773
There is no such thing as disregarding retarded plagiarizations of earlier works? There is no such thing as not believing in something that doesn't exist?

>that pic
ChristianPriestRapesAChild.jpg

>>132326926
>hurr durr Amenemope's writings don't exist

I'm getting sick of typing at you that's what the grammar mistakes are about. No wonder your women want that white cock. You are fucking retarded.

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>>132327172
>I'm getting sick of typing at you

Well please keep typing. I'm actually having the time of my life Mr. Scholar Varg.

>>132324057
Jesus would say Christians should hate nobody.

>>132327172
Rome didn't fell because of Christianity,retard.
See Byzantium.

>>132327331
Byzantium was a stagnant, backwards shithole. Perfect example of what Christianity does to you.

>>132327172
That pic that you posted is definitive proof that you're a kike.
Everybody that has ever read the bible knows that Christs arch enemies are the jews because they chose to worship the devil again and again instead of worshiping God.
My only intent is to warn you so that when you die and face God you will have no excuse as to why you were doing what you're doing other than being a piece of shit that deserves to boil in sulfur.

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>>132327556
No doubt now that you;re retarded,

>>132324693
exodus is real. there are egyptian chariots on the red sea floor where they were swallowed up when moses crossed with the israelites.

the gold is still on the wheels

you can look this up

>>132319946
there's 45 ancient sources documenting jesus's death and only 9 for tiberius caeser lol deal wtih it

>>132327172
>The New Testament says that the Jews are God's chosen people
Fantastic exegesis. Read Paul's letter to the Romans.

>>132327647
>when you die and face God you will have no excuse as to why you were doing what you're doing other than being a piece of shit that deserves to boil in sulfur.

You that whole shtick is also stolen from other religions? You're a dumbass following a cheap imitation of older religions. Kikes would not function as they do on this earth without the constant support of Christians.

>>132327787
Yes stone pillars, wow so innovative. Byzantium was totally stagnant. Almost nothing was invented or innovated on there. The spark of old European pagan beliefs was gone and let the population to confront their mind melting, sandnigger fables. When Constantinople was captured. They found the inhabitants had smashed the Christians statues and flocked to the old gods. They realized too late how weak and stupid Christianity had left them.

>>132327840
The Exodus is pure bullshit according to most scholars. Also the Hittites won the Battle of Kaddish, throwing another wrench int he kike gears.

>>132328111
>according to most scholars
haha

>>132326983
Huh?

The Sicarii (i.e. terrorists) were a radical sect of Judaism that wouldn't submit to Roman authority, because they believed a warrior messiah would deliver them from Rome and be exalted to the throne of David (star prophecy).

Josephus surrendered to Vespasian, and said he was the messiah of the Jews, which is where the idea of Caesar as messiah (instead of an actual jew) came from. This is how Josephus ingratiated himself with the Flavians and was adopted into their court.

Then Titus Flavius, the son of Vespasian, worked with Josephus and other scholars to write the gospels of the New Testament, which appeared to be a Hebrew text on the surface, but was really a disguise for Roman propaganda that would pacify the messianic Jews with the Jesus figure. The "secret meaning" in the New Testament is a description of the military campaign of Titus against the Jews, leading up to the destruction of Jerusalem by the Son of Man -- really Titus.

So... then Titus has been secretly worshipped as god for thousands of years.

>>132328169
His "most scholars" quotes come from scribd, perankhgroup, scotterilogy.wordpress.com, oaks.nvg.org and boomerinthepew. How scholarly.

>>132328111
They are ruins because they were destroyed when Islam was the dominant religion you faggot.

>>132317323
Tacitus referred to the Christians as CHRESTIONS. And Christ as CHREST.

No one talks about this. Seems like a big deal.

>>132328277
That wasn't my pint at all

>>132328169
>>132328273
Egyptians were never slaves in Egypt, and there is no evidence of the exodus.

>>132327840
Link to that "evidence." I want to laugh.

>>132328612
*point at all.

>>132328612
*Jews were never slaves in Egypt

Fuck I'm getting sleepy.

>>132302167
Wasn't the pre-Talmud kike's messiah meant to be a prophet very much like in Islam, much closer to Muhammad than Jesus Christ?

>>132308441
Welcome to conspiracies about religions

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>>132298710
Fucking stupid. Jews hate christianity and christians hated jews. Christians persecuted jews for 2000 years, if jews created christianity to "enslave" us or whatever it backfired very badly.

>>132298322

I was genuinely interested in watching this - but the fucking narration wreaks of fedora tipping, basic bitch atheism.

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>>132299967
>We played ourselves.

So fucking true and we're still doing it today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Pgnng3bVlc

Jews have been playing the long game while we stab our brothers in the back for five bucks.

>>132332446
The triumph of Christ among the Gentiles was a terrible confirmation that their time, as teachers of nations, had passed away. They will never forgive Him and will continue to revile His Name as long as they have the opportunity.

Know that without Him there is no possible victory over the Jew.

>>132328421
Played by Sean connery?

>>132322195
Eusebius transcribes the entirety of Josephus' Testimonium Flavianum in 324 AD, and that the First Council of Nicea occurs in 325 AD. i got that from googling.

>>132298322
Retarded.

>>132298710
The magi were Persian Jews practicing Kaballah. They tried a few times to make a Jesus.

>>132314458
was too tired to point out that implying mohammed / muhammad was given the koran by monks is canon amongst edgy salafists

>>132332446
lel

>>132332446
Christians gave Jews the rights to all interest charging in their kingdoms. Literally handed all the power over to them like giant beta cucks.

>>132339840
How is lending money at no interest at all a thing with a future. I know that it's generally considered bad, maybe a .5% cap?

>>132339840
theres not supposed to be anyone charging interest

but jews just do it anyways

two wrongs doesnt make a right

>>132341078
I agree that Usury was rightly condemned, and look where it got us etc
I'm not surprised that it took off though, considering the opportunity cost of not investing the money elsewhere.
Hell, even the Calvinists wanted a bit of that action which ended up with the modern economy

>>132298322
Caesar > Jesus
Pompey > John (the Baptist)
Antonius > Simon
Lepidus > Peter
(Decimus) Junius (Brutus) > Judas
(Marcus Junius) Brutus > Barabbas
Octavianus (Augustus) > John (the disciple)
Nicomedes of Bithynia > Nicodemus of Bethania
Cleopatra > (Mary) Magdalene
Julia (widow of Marius) > Mary
The Senate > The Sanhedrin
Gaul > Galilee
Rubicon > Jordan
Corfinium > Cafarnaum
Rome > Jerusalem

>>132342045
Also plausible.

>>132298710
as pretty much admitted by one of their own...
Search for "A Real Case Against the Jews/Commissary to the Gentiles by Marcus Eli Ravage"

>https://theendofzion.com/a-real-case-against-the-jews-marcus-eli-ravage/

>>132343998
If a jew is admitting it, I don't believe it

>>132344075
i know your feels... (it's worth the read though)
although they don't have to be mutually exclusive. What Christianity has become is the kike trick and therefore who Christ really was and what he really taught remains obfuscated.

Anyway, everyone has to face Fomenko's claims regarding chronology eventually - even Joseph Atwill knows this. I wonder what he will make of them when he goes back on gnostic media.

>>132343998
>https://theendofzion.com/a-real-case-against-the-jews-marcus-eli-ravage/
Ok, very good. Opinions are like arseholes it seems- everybody's got one

>>132344427
dont know enough about Fomenko's claims. Will investigate. thx

>>132298322
is stupid. why would a romans invent new religion, fuck up their traditions, incljuding orgies, when they could always feed unruly to lions, crucify them and so on?

>>132346597
To pacify the Jews? The eventual outcome couldnt possibly be known. I'm not sold on the idea, but i'm not exactly dissuaded by your logic either

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>>132324693
>BCE
fuck off kike, that is still a reference to the Birth of Jesus Christ

>>132346896
>To pacify the Jews
beady logic. if romans wanted to, they could of killed off every single one of them. they had no need to negotiate with anyone. instead they disband their country(or most likely a region like area) and place them all over the "barbarian" lands.

>>132348395
>they could of killed off every single one of them

So why didn't they?
Why did Bibles start showing up all over the place if it was forbidden by the romans? The Dead sea scrolls were pretty much unique remnants of untouched propaganda

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>>132299899
You will BURN in hell SOON ENOUGH ..BLASPHEMOUS FAGGOT

>>132348566
>Why did Bibles start showing up all over the place if it was forbidden by the romans
hooooooooouuu, hold on their bucko. i got no time for this atm and gtg soon. but you should check your sources. for real. top fkn kek.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlnnWbkMlbg
An interesting video about how the judeo-christian god came to be and how the kikes went from polytheists to monotheists.

>>132313201
He's getting nailed on the cross.

>>132313201
It's a popular Jewish fantasy.