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Jewish judge declares Stand Your Ground law unconstitutional in FL

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http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article159394094.html

>Florida’s updated “Stand Your Ground” self-defense law is unconstitutional, a Miami judge ruled on Monday.

>Miami-Dade Circuit Judge Milton Hirsch ruled that lawmakers overstepped their authority in modifying the law this year to force prosecutors to disprove a defendant’s self-defense claim at a pre-trial hearing.

So a Kike judge is bending the rules to make it so that someone claiming self defense must prove their innocence rather than it being assumed from the outset.
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to my understanding it has to be pass by the SC of fl so i think it will get overturn tho the fact that he trys to say defing yourself is unconstitutional

>oy vey
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Soon to be overturned by an appellate court near you.

Rules of procedure are ALWAYS written by the Legislative branch.
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>>132249077
>Stand Your Ground
What's that?
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>the judiciary having to prove you acted criminally is unconstitutional

What the fuck is this kike smoking? So now if some boon tries to boon me and I shoot him I have to prove myself innocent?
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>>132249821
Someone tries to physically injure you, you can kill them in self defense without worrying about arrest.
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>>132249821
No duty to retreat before an aggressor. Someone attacks you, ventilate the cunt.
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>>132249821
You don't have a duty to retreat if you're attacked before using lethal force in a public area. In states without stand your ground you have to try and run while being set upon by a pack of niggers. Castle doctrine is essentially the same thing only it applies if you're in your home and is much more widely enshrined in state legislature. There are also a handful of super lefty states that lack both meaning you have to try and flee your own home if someone breaks in to nig on your ass.
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>>132249821
>Stand Your Ground
most states have it for say
>you are coming at me
>i fear for my life
>i am allow to use whatever force i deem to stop you etc etc

only reason its on the news b/c nig nogs always are getting BTFO by it
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>>132249821
Its our version of what you guys call "bend over and take it"

Works a little differently
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Hahaha The jews are dead set on destroying them sleves super sayian retard
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>>132250129

LOL
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>>132250404
learn english faggot
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Reminder that the Zimmerman trial was the Golden Age of /pol/
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>>132252099

Remember the skype bombing during the video-testimony of that witness?
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>>132252299
>tfw I missed seeing that live
>I could have been part of it

Kill me
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>>132249663
>that thumbnail
Fucking faggot die
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>>132249077
Friendly reminder that this is the same kike who used a similar spurious argument of unconstitutionality to prevent the enforcement of ICE detainers a couple months ago:

http://archive.is/vDJZO
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>>132249821
Something Europeans will never have, don't worry about it
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>>132249077
>The prosecution has the burden of proving a defense wrong beyond a reasonable doubt
>This is unconstitutional
What the actual fuck is wrong with your courts, America? This is 9th Circus Court levels of stupid.
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>>132252299
JAFFA CALLING

desu I preferred the Gaza war and the /comfy/ Harry threads
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>>132253153
Dipshits are trying to cite separation of powers, saying the legislature shouldn't have any say on pre-trial proceedings, which is the stupidest fucking thing ever
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>>132253321
But the legislature was just codifying WHAT THE FUCKIN LAW SAYS about burden or proof and innocence until proven guilty

Is the issue that it's a pre-trial thing, instead of an argument made to a jury?
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>>132252099
Caused my girlfriend to break up with me
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>>132253538
I was the closest I've been to having a gf during that time.

Then shit happened after summer and my chances got ruined.

Was still fun though talking with her about the upcoming race riots and talking how we'd defend ourselves.

I still talk to her occasionally, haven't heard from her in a couple weeks tho.

>/pol9k/
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>>132252299
watched that whole trial live while I was at work. thank you private office.

JAFFA!
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>>132253762
Sorry to hear that. The girl hated that I started laughing when we heard the verdict on the television out to eat. Tried explaining why they had no case, she didn't care
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>>132249077
>gassing intensifies
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>>132250129
top kek
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>Hirsch’s ruling isn’t binding – other trial courts across Florida can follow the law if they choose. But it does get the ball rolling on the appeals process, and possibly getting the law reviewed by the Florida Supreme Court.


So its literally nothing
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Fucking judges need more oversight.
How much money is being wasted on retarded rulings by isolated judges for the sole purpose of advancing their career?
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>>132253519
I just finished reading most of this kike's bullshit order. He's specifically citing the state constitution which is written in such a way to suggest that the Florida Supreme Court creates policy and procedure and the legislators can only repeal procedure.

Although it's clear this guy was itching for a crack at this law. A whole page's worth of text in there is dedicated slippery-slop fear mongering about the dangers of stand your ground laws.
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>>132253906
Yeah, at least she's stayed a good friend, though seems like a combination of work and making dumb life choices has led to her talking to me less and less these past couple months. Who knows.

But yeah, all my friends and I followed the case and got some good laughs out of it.
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>>132253995
I'm trying to understand what aspect of 'no duty to retreat' is unconstitutional? So some nigger comes at you swinging a tire iron screaming "gimme yo phone", and I'm now obligated to... what? To get hit first? To flail around like a retard trying not to get hit? To duck behind a car and wait for him to approach again?

"Stand your ground" laws have always just been a reaffirmation of a person's right to defend themselves without fear of prosecution. There's no 'acceptable' protocol for self defense that involves endangering yourself further. If someone poses a threat, and you're legitimately in fear for your safety and physical well-being, fucking shoot them.
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>>132249821
>criminal youth tries to attack you
>you shoot them
>the government is okay with it
That about sums it up, the only reason it's controversial is because it means fewer urban youths.
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>>132254420
this guy explained it
>>132254226
basically its unconstitutional by Florida's Constitution not the US Constitution
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>>132249077
(((((HIRSCH)))))
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>>132254475

It's because we're obsessed with the notion of complete equality between all individuals, rather than equality under the law.

People think that because there's a disproportionate number of blacks being killed out of self defense, that there must be something unjust taking place. Rather than saying "Well gee, we're applying the law equally, why are there so many blacks in trouble?", they say "There are so many blacks in trouble, there must be something wrong with everyone else."
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>>132254420
>>132254525
It's such bullshit too. He's essentially saying "HAHA GOT YOU!" because the legislature missed this little bit of the Florida Constitution when they were making their law. He's saying that, if the citizens of Florida wanted to have a self-defense immunity that had to be overcome at pre-trial, they should have repealed the court policy by 2/3 majority, not created a law that created a court policy.

Such a fucking rat. He knows he's being a pedantic little prick and, while it will get struck down sooner or later, he's doing all of this to convict some woman attempting to assert the stand your ground immunity WITH THIS ORDER.
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FUCK MIAMI
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>>132249077
Fucking kike is trying to make supposition of guilt a thing in US courts. Should be strung up in the streets.
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>>132254966
Hopefully this ends with an amendment saying that it's legal and the law stays in place
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>>132249077
>letting foreigners make your law
>actually follow those laws
>all of this is illegal

nice country you got there burger
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>>132254830
I agree, a conservative person will say "more blacks are being killed because more blacks are attacking people" and a progressive person will say "more blacks are being killed because people hate blacks and this law enables their murder!"
Conservatives should do their best to point out that stand-your-ground laws would actually protect blacks from actual racism, since it means they can defend themselves.
The second point, and this is the bigger point, is that blacks attack more people in general... and THAT is why they keep getting killed in self-defense.
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>>132255634
Philando was armed, didn't seem to help him defend himself too well did it.
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>>132255318
>letting foreigners make your laws
I'm pretty sure this kike was born here legally, the real issue is doing away with birthright citizenship. Next up, helping people realize the negative influence that members of a "certain group" have on our society.
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>>132255732
that nigger was high as shit. He couldn't defend a chicken nugget.
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>>132250092
Do you have the legend that goes with this?
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>>132255318

But the kikes are redpilled on guns

http://jpfo.org/
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>>132249077

>>Miami-Dade Circuit Judge


State level and in one circuit. It'll be quickly overturned because of >>132249789
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>>132249821
You have no duty to retreat. If you are attacked aand fear mortal injury and are not the aggressor, you can finish the fight and kill your aggressor.

It's called the law of the fucking jungle. If you go out and try to victimize people through threat of physical violence eventually you are going to fuck with the wrong motherfucker and get your wig split.
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>>132249077
>Liberals claim it's impossible to prove a negative
>Demand Trump prove he's not a Russian shill
>Demand right wingers prove they're not Nazis
>Demand gun owners prove they were the victims
Mandatory body cams on every civilian, ey goyim? :^)
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>>132256333
>If you go out and try to victimize people through threat of physical violence eventually you are going to fuck with the wrong motherfucker and get your wig split.
Pretty much the only way violent shitbags get justice anymore.
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>>132256559
The presumption of innocence gets in the way of enforcing diversity.
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>>132249077
should be illegal for a kike to be a judge
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wtf i love trayvon now
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>>132255975
Maybe in israel but nkt america you stupid shit eatjng burger fuck face
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>>132256694
Definitely should be illegal for them to be on the SC
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>>132256333
Amen. If someone attacks you, their life is forfeit. The price of violating the NAP is blood. Civilization was built on this one rule. If someone attacks you, you have a responsibility to put that mother fucker in his place, or he'll just keep hurting other people.

That place being the hospital, a jail cell, or the morgue - it matters not. He made his decision when he attacked you. His life is not your responsibility; yours is.
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whelp. sure feels like it's time for another revolution..come on lads... let's get to work
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>>132256736

Conservative Jews consistently vote Republican. The non-observant or devout ones are the New York liberals.

More Jewery == more redpilling. Funny, innit?
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>>132257202
>conservative jews
Oh, so basically nobody? If only Jews vote, the Democrats would win in a landslide every year. And those Jews are only "conservative" because of how much the Republican Party supports Israel. They're Zionists.
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>>132257202
Stfu kike. Kikes are almost always voting liberal in the west. Im sure someone could find the data pf last election as proof but i aint looking for it
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>>132257455
>>132257202
Most kikes in the us describe themselves as "atheist jews". Those are the subversive pricks you have to look out for. The rest focus on their own self-interests like anyone else would.
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>>132257455
>And those Jews are only "conservative" because of how much the Republican Party supports Israel. They're Zionists.

Incidentally, the hard left are virulently, violently anti-Israeli. The best argument for zionism is that all the anti-Zionist jews fall in with the far-left socialist/communist bloc.

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>http://mastrolaw.com/2013/01/11/judge-dismisses-drug-charges/

This is the only other thing I could find about him in terms of him rocking the boat legally.
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>>132249077
Fuck Miami. A bunch of good for nothing shitskins who are overstaying their welcome. If a spic tried to break into my house, you better bet that there will be a body
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>>132249821

based faggot poster
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>>132249077
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb3IMTJjzfo
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>>132249077
Meanwhile gun laws in Lithuania...

>Be random guy
>After 2 years and 3000 euroshekels spent in total finely have gun
>Some drunktard sub-human and his gang want to rob you
>Shoot 3 times in air
>They smack you in the face
>Other guy pulls out a knife
>You shoot both of them
>Get 12 years in prison because you had to tell them not to beat you up
>Totally worth it
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>>132249077
Someone needs to try and beat his ass on the streets then turn around and sue him if he uses force.
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>Mfw burgers are soon going to have European gun and self defence laws.
The slippery slope starts forming.

>>132259876
>you had to tell them not to beat you up
Sounds familiar.
In Finland if someone breaks into your home with a knife or something, you have to ask him multiple times to leave and use every possible method of de-escalating the situation without the use of force.
Needless to say if you shoot,stab or beat him up, you go to jail.
You can't even point a gun at them.
Our self defence laws are about as cucked as they come. I think we might have actually copied ours from Sweden, so that might be the reason.
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>>132249077
>force prosecutors to disprove a defendant’s self-defense claim at a pre-trial hearing.
So its now assumed-to-be guilty untill proven innocent.
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>>132257631
>focus on their own self-interests like everyone else
That's a meaningless statement, because their group still controls everything. They're foreign to European culture and identity and have always subverted their host nations. "B-but these guys are based!" doesn't mean anything, and you didn't refute my previous point on how their group votes. Jews are the most "atheist" of all other religions, that doesn't stop them.
>>132257734
>the left is anti-Israel, so we should be pro-Israel!
Such a good goy you are. The "enemy of my enemy" should not be your friend, because they are the same person in this case. They divide the left and right on such matters so that they win either way. If the Left wins, Jews are safe in a progressive society and can manipulate everything as they always do (see the USSR and Jewish Bolsheviks). If the Right wins, they remain in power AND have a protected holy land that Americans will die for forever (the current status quo, and Israel). Look beyond left and right already.
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