Are you really Christian /pol/?

Catholicism isn't Christianity and op is a faggot

>>132234424
I'm not a Catholic. Nice try though.

>>132234513
btw. I read Bible every day and don't attend to the masses because no protestant churches around. I watch transmissions on yt

>>132234312
>Are all the /pol/sters who claim to be Christian actually following their faith?
i do follow my faith but the chance that ALL pol posters follow it is very low, also protestants arent christian

>>132234801
t. thinks Jesus lives in a waffles

>if you don't read your Bible, you aren't really a Christian. Your faith is weak.

People are not supposed to read the bible themself, thats up to the priesthood, the idea that normal people should read the bible came with the (((Hussites)))

>>132234312
>if you don't read your Bible, you aren't really a Christian

What will become of the vast majority of Christians throughout history who never read the bible?

>>132234681
It's a totally different thing if there are no churches in your area. Reading the Bible for yourself is really, at least in my opinion, the best way to get in touch with your faith.

While it would be good to be able to attend services regularly, if you can't, you can't really be blamed.

You must not be from the US if there is a lack of protestant congregations around, either that or live in a rural area serviced only by a Catholic church.

I'm lucky enough to live in a state with a massive amount of churches (for our population). In fact, if my facts are correct, my state (Mississippi) has the highest amount of churches per capita of any other state in the country.

Sad to hear you can't find a church to suit your needs. Maybe you could go to seminary school and start your own church?

>>132234877
>t. doesnt understand the bible so he changes it the way it fits him

>>132235044
It was a hyperbolic statement. Rather, I should have said: your faith will become stronger through reading the Bible for yourself.

Also most of the people throughout history were illiterate. They can't be blamed for trusting in some one else to read/preach the word of God to them.

Just tried to make an inflammatory OP to get a thread going.

>>132234884
Catholics, everyone!
>>132235106
How do we change the Bible you retard? Because we read it ourselves and know what's it about instead of listening to pedophiles in dresses? Read the doctrines of catholic church and you will see how your priests manipulate the Bible to fit their agenda.

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>>132234312
I hope by Christian you mean orthodox. While catholics are wrong on some topics the pro*testants are basicaly talmudic satanists.

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>>132235467
timothy 2:12
You sure follow it

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DON'T FUCKING TOUCH ME OKAY!!!
*folds arms and walks 5 feet away*
IM SERIOUS
*keeps back turned*
I KNOW YOU DONT REALLY LIKE ME
*shoulders start trembling*
NO ONE WANTS TO DEAL WITH THE STRAIGHTFORWARDNESS AND FEROCITY OF A WOLF TRAPPED IN A HUMAN BODY
*snarls*
JUST FUCKING FUCK OFF OKAY
*bares teeth and raises hackles*
FUCK AWOOOOOOOOOFFF

>>132235795
>all congregations are the same
I'm not a fucking swede to let women preach

>>132234312
You don't have to read the bible to be Christian. I'm a devote christian, I don't go to some human made religion's church and don't ever read the Bible. Yet, I'm more Christian than most. You just don't get what being a Christian means. If you accept Jesus into you heart and believe in him/her whatever, then you are christian. Also, BTW, Christ came to me. I'm glad for that.

>>132235926
So you admit that some are wrong XD? I thought you were all following the bible 100%

>>132234312
>Do you actually participate in your faith?
I don't want to be persecuted or mistreated so I always claim to be a "Christian" or whatever when people ask.

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>>132234312
No. I'm white.

>>132235467
>thinks catholics arent allowed to read the bible
anon...
>pedophiles
you say this like you think catholics are okay with this
im not okay with literal pedophiles infiltrating the church and so shouldnt you

>>132236190
What a fucking retard, I don't even...
>protestants in Sweden are abomination so it mean protestants in Poland are the same

>>132236318
Its just because Poland is conservative in general.

From what I understand of christianity, it's a sin to ever attack someone.

For example, a satanic pedophile can kill and abuse children, and murder anyone investigating him, but it would be a sin for a christian to murder this hypothetical person.

Christianity seems to be a religion that allows for abuses by those with power and influence to go unmet because doing anything effective BACK is a sin. By all means you can defend yourself against elite assassination teams with 20 years experience murdering hajji's in the sandbox, but if you pre-emptively attempt to do anything about assassination squads or satanic pedophiles, it's sin.

How/when/where does christianity ever endorse violence?

Can christians literally do nothing against indirect violence against them?

>>132238088
>le other cheek meme
We can't be aggressors but we MUST protect ourselves and our faith.

>>132238267
>>132238088
killing another person is a sin and if you kill some1 that was doing bad things you should feel sorry because he was just human
christians are encouraged not to sin
but if you are forced to kill and then go to a confession because you feel bad for killing a fellow human i dont think you are doomed to hell

>>132238267
It's not le other cheek meme

I'm asking when christianity can be pre-emptively violent and it seems like it cannot.

Which means christians will always be at the mercy of those plotting against them but who do no direct observable violence or damage. For example, demographic replacement of christians. It's indirect, it will eventually wipe out christianity, but christians cannot and will not do anything violent to stop it, while those enacting demographic replacement always have this option and will use it whenever possible.

When you cannot use violence against your enemies, your enemies win.

Even courts and judges require the use of violence to arrest and keep people in jail.

>>132234312

Does God not say that no man has the right to judge the faith of another?

>>132238610
>wipe out christianity
anon...

>>132238589
The original commandment was to not murder, no to not kill. If someone is threat to my life I have a full right to kill him in my defence and it's not a sin.
>>132238610
First off, you can't wipe out christianity. We can't us violence against our enemies as long as they don't want to kill us. At the judgement day, God will take his believers to heaven and punish all sinners, it's up to him, not us.

>>132238776
>>132239078
OH, so it is "le turn the other cheek" meme

You can just let yourself be killed because you will go to heaven and God will punish the man that killed you. It's all A-OK

>>132239078
the commandment goes
>thou shalt not kill
not thou shalt not murder

>>132239418
where did i refrence turn the other cheek
i was pointing out your stupidity when you said christianity will be wiped out

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>>132234312
Yes

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>>132234312
>This a reminder that if you don't go to Church
there is nothing in the NT that says you have to go to church to be a Christian

>>132234312
Im a sinner, the least of all believers .
Converting to Orthodoxy as soon as i find a church, RC my whole life, got basic soul knowledge but it left me wanting, i wandered off, became ill and tried suicide, about a week later in the mental hospital, i found a belt in a patients room and took it, I decided that the next day was the day to finish it (late at night the nurses check constantly).

Funny thing, had a prophetic dream,
>symbolism overload.jpeg
I woke up and (just read Erkhart Tolle, PoN"

>born again christian

relapsed into sin, got kidnapped and ended up mental again. Tried to return to RC, I couldn't balance what they taught and what I (felt) I knew. Then I found out about Orthodoxy and the fire is burning once again.

rant over.

>>132240247
Do you know what The Church even is?

It isnt a building you Heathen

>>132239591
The way things are going; yeah, it will.

But it's okay, the sinners who wipe you off the face of the world will see God in the end, right? No need to do anything to fight back. God will fix it after you're dead.

What a charming religion for cucks.

>>132240247
>God doesn't live in any building built by human hands (waffles too)
>There is a Jesus everywhere where 2 or 3 Christians are

>>132240247
The Church is the Body of Christ. Outside it there is no salvation

>>132240529
who says we wont fight back? you think all christians are pacifists? you obviously know nothing about the balkans
kys dogfucker

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>>132234312
Yes.

>Do you actually participate in your faith?

Yes.

>Do you regularly attend Church services?

Not as often as I should, the services here are far from decent.

>When was the last time you actually cracked open the Holy Bible and read from it and prayed over it's meaning?

A couple of hours ago.

This was a stupid thread.

>>132240660
So how do you deal with someone wiping out christianity and christians indirectly?

How do you deal with a guy who hires someone else to murder christians? How do you deal with a guy pushing ostensibly non-violent demographic replacement that still results in the elimination of christians and christianity?

From my point of view Christian morality does not appear to allow proactive measures to prevent suffering and death. Only reactionary.

>>132235795
I don't think 1 Timothy 2:12 necessarily needs to be interpreted as a divine command. IIRC 1 Timothy is a letter from Paul to Timothy advising him on how best to run a church. So "Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence." is more reflective of Paul's thoughts than God's. Women tend to be easier led astray so they need to be watched fairly closely if speaking to large bodies of churchgoers.
tl;dr I belive Women probably shouldn't be church leaders, but should be allowed to talk so long as they aren't confusing others.

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>>132241012
>So how do you deal with someone wiping out christianity and christians indirectly?
By fucking fighting. Simple sentences like "Thou shalt not kill" often have much more meaning.

>>132241012
if some1 is hiring people to murder me and my fellow men, how would stopping him not be reactionary

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>>132234312
yes to all and the funny thing is, the fact that I live in such a liberal, degenerate area of the world only strengthens my resolve.

I hope and pray for a day when Christianity returns to its former glory, but unfortunately everyday it seems that we're actively trying to speed up the apocalypse, so at this point I just try to live through him with those that I care about in the hope that we will be ready when the time comes.

I can honestly say I would die for my faith at any point.

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>>132240750
The church of Sweden is a fucking joke anyway, its been filled up with pro-multicultural, leftist subversives that have done everything in their power to undermine the conservative principles of the church

>>132241668
I know, I know.

Terrible.

>>132240494
>>132240644
The Christian collective is not called "the Church" or "Body" of Christ but the "Bride" of Christ. You shouldn't claim I'm a heathen when you deus vult dummies don't even understand the basics.
Also, as I said before, you haven't shown me one verse from the NT that says someone who doesn't go to church isn't Christian.

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>>132241668
asking out of curiosity and concern
is it really that bad living in sweden as /pol/ portrays it to be and how is it living there as a christian

Most Christians are really Satanists, it's no different here.

>>132234801
>t. Cucklic

>>132242127
If it wasn't that bad, we wouldn't be flooded with swedes buying houses and flats everywhere.

>>132234312
Christianity is Jewish lies.

You don't need a fucking lie to keep you from degeneracy.

>>132234312
7:30 mass yesterday. Felt good.

>>132234884
>no goyim, don't read it on your own. You need a priest!

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>>132242298

>>132234884
>People are not supposed to read the bible themself
Burn in Hell Roman filth.
>>132234312
Yes, I went twice yesterday.
Just finished the Bible for the first time last month. Cover to cover with the aid of dramatized jewtube KJV audio. Bought a Schuyler KJV Westminister as a present to myself.

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>>132240644

>needing to submit to an exoteric man boy love organization for salvation

>>132236181
>im christian
>doesn't read bible to strengthen faith
>doesn't attend a good church to keep the faith strong and meet like minded people

>>132242127
As for living standards things are still great but are on a major crash course. Economy is twisting down the nether and politically it is a zoo.

Basically we're a meme on life-support. In some ways it truly is as bad as /pol/ portrays it, everyone is so disconnected from reality and gullible. A twilight-zone of insanity.

I don't talk religion with people, they assume I am atheist and love feminism. Not even Church-goers label themselves Christian, atleast in the Church I was baptized.

If for some reason it gets out that I am religious AND Christian I have some 'splainin to do.

>>132241950
>bride of Christ
Nope. The marriage hasn't happened yet, and you dont call your fiancé your bride until you are actually married.

Gut güd and start going to an IFB church.

Have you shown love to the poor among you lately?

>>132242903

Christians are more concerned with masturbation than helping the poor, which is funny because most of modern Christianity is just masturbation that's far removed from anything Christ taught

>>132241950
there probably isnt any statement that says you must go to *building* church that exists today because people didnt build christian churches when jesus was alive, dummy

>>132240644
>Church
The scripture says there are "churches", PLURAL.
Burn in Hell Roman filth.
>So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure:

>For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:

>Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.

>And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:

>Moreover, brethren, we do you to wit of the grace of God bestowed on the churches of Macedonia;

>John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

And on and on and on...

>>132242127
>is it really that bad living in sweden as /pol/ portrays it to be
Yeah pretty much, the only good thing is that the tide is turning in our favor and more and more regular Swedes are waking up and voicing opposition to things such as immigration and multiculturalism.
>how is it living there as a christian
I am not religious myself but i can imaige it would be frustrating considering the low-morals and degeneracy that can be found all over the country

>>132241665
>I hope and pray for a day when Christianity returns to its former glory, but unfortunately everyday it seems that we're actively trying to speed up the apocalypse

I think thats the point of it all. Jesus told us that he will come again very soon, and with all theae wild, degenerate things happening, I feel its going to be sooner than expected. There is no way to save this world, only delay the inecitable and try to strengthen yout faith and save whoever you can. God bless you brothers.

>>132243375
>>132242703
good luck anons
and i advise you to prepare for moving somewhere else in case somehting really bad happens, just so you have a backup plan in case things go bad

>>132234312
I go to mass 2 or more times a week. Read the bible. Pray everyday. No larp. Am baptised. RCIA starts September

>>132243114
>this is what happens when you mix with protestants

>>132238088
Christians are allowed to kill if it is justified. Usually self defence or defence of others. Only the bishops are allowed to condemn someone to death for a crime though

>>132241950
7 churches
7 chakras


Lord Jesus, please show them.

>>132243903
Thank you Croatia-friend, we WILL bring our country back one way or the other
it's always the darkest right before the sun rises after all

Only those who are baptised in the name of the Trinity are Christian. You can never stop being a Christian as we profess one baptism. Being a Christian doesn't mean you are necessarily saved

>>132234312
I've went to Church just yesterday. I don't like it there though, but it's the only non-Orthodox church in my shit-town.

>>132235629
Please explain yourself. I sure don't feel like a Satanist when I'm praising the Lord with my church family

>>132234312
>Are all the /pol/sters who claim to be Christian actually following their faith?

/pol/ is a troll containment vboard. Expecting everybody here to actually be what they say they are, or to do what they say they do, would be really stupid.

That said,
>Do you actually participate in your faith?

Yes.

>Do you regularly attend Church services?

No.

>When was the last time you actually cracked open the Holy Bible and read from it and prayed over it's meaning?

About a year back, maybe.

>This a reminder that if you don't go to Church, if you don't read your Bible, you aren't really a Christian.

False. Whosoever believeth, and all that.

>Your faith is weak.

I don;t think so -- I am very sure that it is not up to you to judge that.

>How can you ever expect your faith to mean anything, either to yourself or anyone else, if you don't actually participate?

Your definition of "participation" seems extremely limited.

>>132234681
>don't attend to the masses because no protestant churches around.

Wat?

>>132244521
>Only those who are baptised in the name of the Trinity are Christian
Literally every protestant denomination baptizes in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost except oneness Pentacostals.
>Being a Christian doesn't mean you are necessarily saved
Lying Roman soul soliciting cretin ransoming people's souls for control of their lives and their shekels.
You disgust me, heathen.

>>132244857
Wtf I love Protestantism now

>>132244553
why anti-orthodox anon?

>>132244933
Most protestants are Christians even if they are apostates or heretics.

A christian can still refuse to repent in which case he goes to hell

>>132235629
>pro*testants are basicaly talmudic satanists.
Except the Catholics preach works based salvation just like the Synagogue of Satan, whereas Baptists preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ and faith in His finished and perfect work.

Wake up, dum dum.

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>>132234884
>People are not supposed to read the bible themself
>thats up to the priesthood
>the idea that normal people should read the bible came with the (((Hussites)))
This post really activated my almond.

>>132235629
Most Catholic churches are shit, most Orthodox churches are shit, most Protestant churches are shit.

You get the concept - most churches are shit.

You shouldn't pick by denomination. You should pick by priest/pastor and brothers and sisters.

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>>132236181
>don't ever read the Bible.
>Yet, I'm more Christian than most.
How can you follow the Commandments without knowing them kohai?

>>132236181
> more Christian

Being Christians means believing that Jesus died for our sins and resurrected on the 3rd day.

You can't be more or less Christian.

>>132234801
I've been watching your posts, croatanon. You went through an atheist phase in your younger years, right? What gives you the right to judge others?

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>>132234312
Yes

>>132244857
Which part you didn't understand? There are no protestant churches where I live. I'm probably the only protestant in my village.

>>132246328
How big is your village?

>>132245755
Possibly because with Jesus you already know what's right and what's wrong. You should probably follow one hundred commandments if you truly want to be good.

That's religion, and a lot of religion is to promote religion. Different religions have different 10 commandments. Keep the sabbath holy. If that's not self promotion, nothing is.

>>132246501
8k people

>>132234312
>Do you really worship Jews?
No I don't

I wanna go to church but im shy as fuck. also im dead broke i cant donate money

>>132245950

Matthew 16:27 King James Version (KJV)

27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

>>132246696
Well, that sucks. I myself was living in a town with 30k people in it, but we had a protestant pastor and "home protestant group", as we called it.

Tbh, It was pretty painful to leave this town, as it meant that group became smaller. You don't have such bounds, so you're pretty lucky.

While I agree that going to Church is important and good, it's also important to remember that the Church is the body of Christ, the people, not a building, and we worship and pray every day not just on Sunday.

It's not some routine we do to "remain Christians", you remain a Christian by dying daily and crucifying your flesh daily, submitting to God and obeying Jesus.

Remember it's Jesus who saves, not the Bible, not the priest, and not a building or a routine. The more important question to ask in my opinion is, do you have a relationship with Jesus?

That being said, I was just reading the Gospel of Luke again, good stuff :)

>>132246942
>I wanna go to church but im shy as fuck.
I used to attend a Church in my local city, literal crackheads would come in and just hang out in the back to hear the Pastor, there is no need to be shy, you don't even have to talk to anyone if you do not want to anon, they will accept you.

>also im dead broke i cant donate money
If you are getting dirty looks for not being able to donate, you are surrounding yourself with the wrong people. I have seen hundreds of people pass the donation tray along and not be able to, it's normal and completely fine.

>>132246942
i never went to church btw

am I semi-forced to donate like tip in a restaurant or is it *really* up to you

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Rise of the Merchant
One of the most powerful cities in history, also had nothing going for it in the beginning. At first look it was not supposed to succeed. Unlike other towns in the region like Lucca, Pisa, and Siena, Florence did not have a shoreline, so no sea trade like the Venetians, it did not have direct acess to trade routes on the land. It did not have any immediate access to natural resources, and it had limited agricultural production capabilities. Yet in spite of this it became one the largest cities in Europe with 120,000 living there. And outside of Rome itself, it was the wealthiest city and the greatest source of Renaissance art. The Florin was the American Dollar of the day.

Florence has little to no records of transactions until about the early 1100s, probably because of high taxes. Before this Merchants in Florence would use proxy towns in the surrounding area like Pisa, Lucca, and Siena to do business, where there are plenty of records of contracts and banking loans. But suddenly the same years that transactions took place in Florence the 1st walls of Florence were built (paid for by taxes). Florence made most of it's money selling wool and silk, and interest on banking loans. From the Levant, to all of Western Europe, and North Africa, it was the bank of Kings and Popes. Florence was where the Medici lived, who practically ruled all of Europe, and with their peers, they financed the entire Renaissance. It was the Medici that found and funded great artists like Michelangelo, Raphael, Botticelli, Fra Angelico, Pietro Perugino, Donatello, and Leonardo da Vinci, and 4 Popes were from that family.

>>132246942
1) You are not required to donate money, especially when you're broke.
2) Over time, you will make good friends there. Going to church is probably the best way to socialize.

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>>132247183
Good post anon.

>>132234312
Sorry I'm not stupid enough to believe in christian bullshit.

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>>132247383


Revenge of the Goy
Their power slowly increased from the 1100s to 1500s, with a brief ShekelShoah right before the Black Plague in the mid 1300s. But after the black plague the Merchants they prospered bc God took care of the filthy goyim. Then suddenly something happened. In the 1500s trade contracted, kings stopped doing taking out loans, cities refused to commerce with Florence and dozens of other Merchant cities in Italy that also financed the Renaissance. At first it was in Northern Germany, and England but then it spread all through out Europe, until Florence totally shut down all it's banking and trading to Italy exclusively, except for certain places in Spain, France, and the city of Amsterdam. They were so skilled and YET in spite of overcoming every obstacle, especially early on, it became a husk of it's former glory all in a single century. The very same century as the Protestant Reformation. You see Protestants hated to commerce with Roman Catholics or Jews altogether. Suddenly all these patrons of the arts were without money to fund the Renaissance, so the Renaissance ended, choking them out in competition all over Europe until Florence had no power to even outsell Protestant made fabrics in their own city. This was the Great Shekel War with the Business Goy and his Reforming friends and the Merchant lost, so the Renaissance had to be shut down. This was the second ShekelShoah of this age. So they packed up their bags and sailed all over the seven seas taking their florins and shekels with them. This commenced the Golden Age of Piracy in 1600 and 1700s.

>>132247317
>am I semi-forced to donate like tip in a restaurant or is it *really* up to you
Absolutely not. The pastor usually will speak when the trays go out, a good pastor will tell people not to donate if they are broke or need help themselves, they will ask for donations from people who have the means. That's what it's been like in my experience.

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>>132234312
>>132234424

>This a reminder that if you don't go to Church, if you don't read your Bible, you aren't really a Christian.

If you read your Bible and still go to church you're definitely not a Christian....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXDL2hQ76tU

>>132247637

ok thank you

>>132247317
in an ideal world you'd just give away all your possessions "Holy Fool" and live eating leaves of various bushes and sleeping in hedges as youwalk around chatting about God.

or else you can give them a dollar from your pocket.

Christians: Does anyone here feel like they are blessed with the holy spirit? like an actual physical presence?

>>132248030
> Christians: Does anyone here feel like they are blessed with the holy spirit? like an actual physical presence?

Sometimes, not regularly and almost randomly - when I think over Bible verses or just pray and emotions decide to overcome.

>>132234312
been going to the church 2 times a week and just bought my Jerusalem Bible (the bible I had was my mother's).

What bible do you have and prefer, brothers?

>>132248030
>Does anyone here feel like they are blessed with the holy spirit?
> like an actual physical presence?
Sometimes.

>>132248030
I've been an atheist all my life till a couple years ago

The first time I genuinely asked for forgiveness, I felt like I got it. I felt relieved, saved. I was back home. That was an incredible moment, especially because of my atheist background. no actual physical presence though

>Do you actually participate in your faith?
Yes, christian catholicism

>Do you regularly attend Church services?
Every sunday and some laboural days

>When was the last time you actually cracked open the Holy Bible and read from it and prayed over it's meaning?
I do not open a Bible since more or less 1 or 2 years. You have to know that at the mass we listen to the lectures that are from the Bible.

>>132248030
Yeah, I feel different after I begged Jesus for forgiveness. My way of thinking and behaviour changed a bit.

>>132247183
I find it hard to believe that christians can have a grasp of the sacred experience without liturgical rites...

>>132249232
Of course they can. Especially now, among ex-atheists.

see >>132248687

That's exactly sacred experience.

>>132249535
Agreed.

>>13224953
Are you Christian Ortodox?

>>132250087
No, I'm protestant. I go to Pentecostal church now, but I don't agree with pastor on many matters and don't like it there very much because of that.

>>132248971
>>132248687
>>132248587
>>132248422

Good to hear. Cant stand "Christianitys over yadayada" they justcant see and feel it, its disheartening at times but Corinthians says God created the non believers so we would know what we have in our hearts.

Probably just need to toughen up a bit, but the amount of neo-pagan and satanist LARPers really depresses me. Why?(said everyone ever) why do (I,We) get this gift, and then I see people having abortions (brazen about it aswell) and everybody just using each other like dildos. and we have the (Burden? Gift aswell?) of desperatly trying to steer them away from damnation.

I dunno who or what Im asking here
>Who's your favourite Saint?

>>132250554
I am catholic. Where I live there are not a lot of protestants or pentecostals, but Islam is growing fast.

>>132246035
i never went to atheist phase in my life
was catholic since my youth and still am. im just having hard time because of this degenerate world we live and because others constantly attack me because of my religion, but i do stand back on my feet every single time, so i dont think ill give up on my faith anytime soon
>right to judge others
only god can judge other people

>>132248568
>What bible do you have and prefer, brothers?
pls respond

>>132251076
Saint Ignacio de Loyola

>>132251398
I only use the approved by the Vatican.

>>132251398
a gideon pocket bible

>>132251802
Same here

>>132251076
Neo-pagan are those who want to believe, but they were indocrinated that Christianity is bad. Satanists are just edgy atheists.

>>132248568
My mom has a Synodal Russian traslation published by samizdat in USSR in 1982. It has both New and Old Testament, and that's the first
Bible I've read.

It has very inaccurate translation sometimes, but I still like it.

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>>132236181
You're like a man who views himself in the mirror and when you walk away, you forget what you look like.

If you dont read the bible, youll never truly grasp Chrisanity and thus your faith will evade you when you need it most.

Read your bible today.

>>132248030
Once I was troubled with nightly sleep paralysis and false awakenings, the details are unimportant but they always felt troubling. I had been reflecting on faith a little in this period, with an increasing awareness of evil in the world, where once I might have sought a psycho/sociological explanation for these deeds. Falling asleep one night in a perfectly normal mood I had a vision of heaven which I felt more than I saw, an ecstatic kind of feeling in my heart. I did not suffer any sleep paralysis after this.

>>132251869
>>132251398

Id love to eventually write it out by hand, but just notes so far.

St. Columba
Idle then is a religion decorated with prostrations of the body, equally idle is the mere mortification of the flesh, and the hollow devotion of the outward man, unless it be accompanied by a fruitful moderation of the mind. What use is it for the passions to be assailed by a servant, when they are found to be in league with the master? Then, lest perhaps we should labour without fruit, let us take pains to be freed from our vices by God's help, that thereafter we can be adorned with virtues. Thus let us cleanse ourselves as far as we are able from every taint of vices, from pride first, from ill-will, from anger, from blasphemy, from injustice, from spite, from melancholy, from vain glory, from covetousness, from malice, from all bitterness; that we may be possessed by lowliness, gentleness, kindness, courtesy, sobriety, mercy, justice, joy, and love.

>>132236181
Whatever sounds pretty solid there bro.

I'm a Buddhist

>>132252756
I have always been an atheist although I did go through the more anti-theist stage in earlier life. I always understood evil for what it is and never denied it's existence as I grew up in an objectivist house hold if you will. However, it is this idea of evil that has been causing me to look into Christianity more. I am on my first serious read of the Bible where I am not looking to debunk it but to think on it's metaphysics and meaning more. This has been eye opening I am finding very individualistic and even sometimes objectivist meaning in the book. I am starting to think that as a youth I was propagandized against it and believed that propaganda. To any other atheists read it, and not just the words, think abou the meaning in them.
I had a really good discussion with an anon last week about the parable of the talents. On the surface it looks awful but it's theme was something very positive.

>>132252080
i think they are led astray, and we should be shepherding them back safely, but (I myself) amn't having much luck/skill

its nice to have something passed down, my mother gave me rosary beads & the pocket bible. It helps the mind focus (for myself anyway)

>>132234312
im a traditionalist catholic and there is no traditionalist masses anywhere near me just like you cant buy douay rheims bible anywhere so no i do not participate in my religion because im not able to

>>132247708
>committing Sola scriptura

Heretic, I...

>>132234884
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okv9CCxMQYo

>>132252125
people think "help others, non-violence" "ahhh I am the most Christian of all". But jesus wasnt afraid to whip people, and when he comes back he'll have fury that Satan itself can't match.

>>132234312

> participate by going to church
> faith is a personal relationship with god
> I'm holy

>>132253780
>there is no traditionalist masses anywhere near me

It is catholic law that every diocese has a Latin mass available to them. I guarantee there is a Latin mass held monthly, if no weekly, somewhere near where you live. Especially in catholic Croatia.

>>132254056
there used to be one i dont know how long ago 50-100 kilometers away in some random street i dont know anything about monthly, but they dont have a priest anymore who knows latin

so no, it doesnt exsist

>>132254056
we had one between 2 dioceses monthly, larger numbers than normal mass

>RC halted it dispite protests, figured holding mass in english with noone there was better than a packed church with Latin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi8vJ_lMxQI

King of tremendous majesty,
who freely saves those worthy ones,
save me, source of mercy.

Amen

>>132234312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn3MKPyBe8Y

Christ is
KING OF KINGS

Son of GOD

Glory to the FATHER, the SON, and the HOLY SPIRIT

HEAVENLY KINGDOM before earthly kingdom

>>132254310
>THEY MUST HOLD THE MASSES IN LATIN
no they fucking dont, and they dont hold them, i dont know from where do people get their ideas about that

>>132253780
douay rheims ? I downloaded it less than a week ago come back in 24 hours (i have to go now) ill leave a dl on one of the Christian threads.

Serve the Lord, he needs his children now.

>>132254413
The battle of Vienna (1683) is better when representing the christianity of Europe

>>132254413
Wow, that's pretty cool way to make a history video. Thanks for the link.

>>132254537
They offered to just hold a lay ceremony if the priest couldnt attend.

>They've been LOCKED out of their Church

>mfw these men dictated morals to me my whole life. Where is the goodness in those actions I wonder?

>>132254673
i can always see it on the internet, but the thing is i dont have a physical version

i dont always go on the internet and often due to me living in a backwater place connection keeps disappearing all the time

i have a heretic modernist bible available, but it is simply for practical measures

>>132253664
It is worthwhile looking into for sure. I wish more of those those who admit a rise in evil in the world would correlate it with the decline and systematic destruction of this faith. Americans particularly who still express doubt about it should look into the man Scofield to help make sense of their false perception of the book. If only the evangelicals would do the same.

>>132254955
where do you live?

the thing is that in the east people are extremely ignorant about all this and they look at trad catholicism the same way they look about some weird exotic religion
when i see their retardedness like that i simply have to shrug it off

>>132254253
I didn't think 50km was that far but okay. Regardless, if you want a traditional mass then Latin mass is what you want, and they aren't so uncommon.

The amount of effort you're willing to put in to attend is on you, but they exist and they're there for you so don't pretend you don't have the opportunity.

>>132255191
waht i said is a rumor i heard on the internet that years ago it existed maybe somewhere

currently for me closest one is irregularly monthly in maribor so

NO IT FUCKING DOESNT EXIST

Are there many children in your chuch? Yesterday there was a wedding in my church and I realised how many children there are, most families (not young ones at least) have at least two.

Maybe the future of Christianity is bright after all.

>>132255465
>Maybe the future of orthodox Christianity is bright after all.
ftfy

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>>132234312
If you don't believe gays deserve death you're not a real christian.

>>132255413
I just looked for you. There is latin mass in Zagreb every Sunday at 11:30. I'm sure you don't live in Zagreb, but it would be worth the trip for you to attend at least once or maybe even make it an occasion once a year or something. I took a bus from Split to Zagreb for only 15 euros once so don't tell me it's impossible.

>>132255860
first time i hear about it?
please link me

>>132255614
It was a Protestant church. From what I feel, young people tend to leave Orthodox church, at least in Russia, where it's viewed as a very corrupted one.

ROC (Russian Orthodox Church) is probably the most hated religion organisation after Jehovah's Witnesses here.

>>132256004
>ROC (Russian Orthodox Church) is probably the most hated religion organisation after Jehovah's Witnesses in st. petersburg.

>young people tend to leave Orthodox church, at least in st. petersburg

also ftfy

>>132256227
What, why St. Petersburg?

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Me, a Christian? nice try OP but I'm not following no kike religion

>>132255998
http://latinmassdir.org/location/st-martins-church-zagreb/

I see a comment saying the listing is incorrect and it is only held twice a month, not every Sunday, so perhaps give them a call and make sure it is being held on that day before committing to the trip

>>132256366
because its a degenerate liberal shithole
99.9999% of people who hate putin, support navalny and hate the orthodox church are from there

it also used to be a single biggest bolshevik stronghold back in teh day so nothing changed at all

>>132234681
where do you live where there are no protestant churches?

>>132256552
Newsflash: youth is liberal across the whole country. Give it 10-15 years and we will become a new France.

>>132256448
that priest died and now they dont have anyone who knows latin mass anymore

there are occasionally some fssp preists who come to serve the mass extraordinarily tho

>>132255027
I think the destruction of faith is intentional, I think there was a Russian guy who talks about this. That with out faith there are masses of people who would not understand evil, or if we are getting into the modern intellectual, claim it does not even exist.
I think at least from what little I know about the Bible right now there are a few points that I found very interesting and important.Evil exists, all men are capable of it (Original Sin, the beast within) but even so there is something divine in us (God or Ego), that we can use to judge and curtail evil.
On a side note the idea of individual salvation is quite interesting to me as well. The idea that only you can save yourself that it is something you have to except and maintain. I like that, it's putting the responsibility on each of us to work for our future on earth and in heaven.

>>132234312
Quality jew fairy tale.

>>132256881
>t. someone who never been anywhere outside of teh big city

>>132257049
I was living in 30k town for 20 years, I live in Ufa right now.

/pol/ is and always will be an Islamic board. Please stop posting in this thread and go to praise our true lord, Allah and his messenger (pbuh).

>>132257252
>ufa
>its population was 1,062,319
my point exactly

>>132234312
As a Catholic the Bible is read every week at church; the sacraments are imperative for spiritual well being. Protestantism fails because or sola scriptura and a life lacking true sacraments... Being Christian is a real physical thing that also implicates society, politics, economics and law. The revolutions from centuries ago have set us on a downward trajectory of rejection of Christ and his teachings. Winter is here fuckers

>>132257466
Visit Ufa before making any conclusions.

>>132258042
im from a small village and i know what all teh big cities are like
dont have to visit each of them individually to know they are filled with degenerate trash

The OP assumes that ritualistic behavior and reading a book is the sole requirement of Catholics/Christians.
It should emanate from within you.
The OP is a typical perpetually offended victim. Or a Muslim.
How has Christianity hurt you?

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>>132236280
>I'm white.

If your dick looks like the one on the left you're not.

>>132253894
>doing the exact 100% total accurate rigorous opposite of the Bible because muh tradeshun
Do God a favor, and throw that pork chop away.

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>>132234312
Reminder that the Father alone is God.