Why are gypsies hated so much in Europe?

>>132232627
Irrational racism of people darker then they are.

They steal everything.

>>132232627
Because gypsies are like a result of a genetic experiment to engineer the biggest possible subhuman. Every single thing about them is disgusting and either morally or physically repulsive.

>>132232627
Racism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiziganism

>>132232631
>>132232628
Nope. This is the correct reason >>132232629. There's 10 000 Romani where I live and they do 18% of all robberies. They practice honour killings and have massive drug problems.

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>>132232628
>darker

Gypsies are white.

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>>132232633
I'm not sure who those women are, but they're not gypsy. Probably Greek or something like that. Gypsies look like picrelated.

>>132232633
>>132232634
Romanians

Imagine cunning Basketball Americans without guns.

>>132232627
Meet one and you'll find out

Protip: they survive by begging and stealing, and contribute nothing to society

>>132232627
They graze off the land but don't set roots in. They benefit from society but can choose if they want to have a future in it or not. And who would make a society better if they have no ties keeping them to it? They have no stake in the future of the lands they occupy but reap the benefits of work and sacrifice from those who built these places.

This is true for anyone like that in any place. Any internationalist people. It's simply a moral hazard that plays out on a societal level.

>>132232627
They're literally the scum of the earth, to the point that even a tree hugging hippie would send them all to the gas chambers

>>132232627
woah.... the indo-european master race....right there

Is it possible to become stupider as a sub-group evolution survival strategy?

Like the community becomes so toxic that no one in the greater out group, which the sub-community exists in, wants to join, so there is no dilution of the pool. Few within the sub-community can leave either, as they like the ability to function in outside society. The unique character of the community thus avoids being subsumed.

Like reverse Jews.

They used to be metal workers and travelling merchants. My grandma tells me about how her mountain village in Serbia allowed them to enter twice a year to repair pots and pot in exchange for wine. She said people were super distrustful of them back too but the modern gypsies are a totally different breed.

The last 100 years have basically degenerated everyone.

>>132232627
Because they've been present in Europe for the last 1000 years or so and still haven't managed to assimilate into the local populations. Also they steal.

>>132232627
I'd take jamal and tyrone any day over those feral subhumans.

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>>132232642
The communists degenerated them because they forced them to live side by side with white people in the name of multiculturalism and integration, this led to white people getting the fuck out of there ASAP and Gypsies turned their dwellings into little Mumbai (see pic).

They're strictly a medieval wandering ethnicity, it's an evolutionary accident that they even survived the industrial revolution. They honestly should all be just gassed or deported to Honolulu or whatever the fuck just get them out of Europe somehow.

It's also funny that Gypsies left India around 1000 years ago, their language changed, they all became Christian or Muslim, yet they still behave like Indians. Shitting in the street, raping everything they see, and being all around filthy and stupid people.

>>132232639
This.

>>132232628
t. American
Gypsies are awful, you give them free houses and education and they strip the houses to sell them and move away with their slave kids

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>>132232627
>Why are gypsies hated
Gypsy expert balkanite here
>they steal and kill with impunity
>everywhere they settle turns into a localized 3rd world ghetto zone as crime skyrockets
>they see native europeans as "subhumans" (as ironic as it may sound)
>they have no morals when it comes to gypsy-native realations, murdering a retiree for his pension with a steel pipe doesn't faze them
>they leech off the social system
>they have more children that they could care for (their fertillity rate is 3-5, depending on the region)
>they have low IQ from a millenia of inbreeding, meaning they drop out of the completely free educational system en masse because they can't handle the high school curriculum or have to marry their 1st cousin at 15
>they contribute absolutely nothing to anything and drag down any society they latch on
Time of the gypsies and black cat white cat are the only notable contributions to the world gyppo subhumans have ever done.

>>132232628
>Be gypsy
>illegaly settle on some land
>refuse to work and collect welfare
>Steal from your neighbours
>Drive around without license
>Have 6 children who are just like you

Ohh geee why do they hate us so? Must be because we are brown

>>132232628
To adress that. At least in my country, in commie times, there were a lot of foreign students and worker trainees from bumfuck 3rd world shitholes like Vietnam, Nicaragua, Ethiopia, Cuba, the arab world etc. There are also big communities of armenians, russians, jews (pre-WWII). Nobody ever had problems with them which meant they were accepted just fine in society. It's gyppo's medieval tribalism that angers people.

>>132232627
because they're scum who just rape and steal their entire lives and never do anything productive

>>132232628
VERY FAKE NEWS

>>132232627
Because all the successful gypsies make it out the ghetto leaving behind the less fortunate in one place.

>>132232652
>successful gypsies
Actually, it's the opposite. They just build xboxhueg kitsch mansions in the middle of the ghetto and become like local "feudals". Also, the only way gypsies become """"successful"""" is by pimping, orgnized petty theft, drugs, organ and human trafficing and begging, for all of which they must be close to the source of crippled children, underage prostitutes and irgan "donors", the ghetto.

>>132232647
I'm American and we have gypsies in Houston. They never pay the restaurant bill. We stopped letting them in.

>>132232627
They fell out of relevance during the industrialization because they were essentially traveling farmers whom would be hired during harvest seasons by land owners.

Instead of adapting to change like almost every other culture in the world, they resorted to thieving and begging. This practice lives on to this day.

>>132232627
>ugly, low intelligence and often illiterate
>stealing is part of their ""culture"", same with selling stuff they stole and claiming its original silver/gold etc
>voluntarily living in animal tier conditions, even attempting to integrate into society doesn't crosses their mind
>they steal, a LOT
>lot of incest and inbreding within their large families
oh, and did i mention that nearly all of them are dirty thieves?

>>132232630
Couldn't have worded it better

>>132232627
They are like a huge crime syndicate that happens to be a race.

>>132232654
Even the melting pot failed to integrate them. Are Gyps just completely iredeemable?

>>132232641
It's called inbreeding.

>>132232628
(You) sound just like irrational racist. Only racists blame everything to race and racism. You're probably an liberal, too.

>>132232627
because they are the only gruop of people worse than niggers.

>>132232628
There is nothing irrational about racism.

>>132232631
Racism is proven right again.

Why is racism a bad thing?

>>132232628
It has nothing to do with skin colour retard. I live in Ireland, they don't have jobs they steal, and they have no manners towards anyone, they hang outside of shops like parasites. And their kids spit on people. Europeans hate them because they are useless sods.

I never understood it till I started working at a store located right at the main train station.
They steal, have fun annoying you, stink, beg all the time and run around in groups to intimidate you . The worst is if you ever have a feeling of empathy towards them and give them some money or a cigarette, their whole clan will run towards you.
Oh you just gave him one euro? Now he wants five.
They are the only people I hate. Even moroccans have some form of dignity and are nice to you if you speak just a bit of french.

>>132232627

Because of how they behave, how they speak, and how they think of us non-Gypsies (they don't even consider us to be fully human).

>>132232653
the only successful gypo in my country became a singer.

There was an American gypsy on int last year, interesting read

http://desuarchive.org/int/thread/55941751/
http://desuarchive.org/int/thread/56462217

Back in middle school, we even had a class where the teacher taught us what to do, if a gypsy or a gang of them tries to mug you.

>>132232627
In Bongland it's because they refuse to obey the law, don't pay taxes or do actual jobs, and still expect to take their share of the things the government provides, like hospitals and schools. They are everything that is bad about immigrants in general, but unlike indians or the polish there aren't any good, intelligent, hard working gypsies by definition, since if they were any of those things then they'd have settled down and stopped being gypsies.

Asking why people dislike a race of gypsies (say, romanian gypsies) is like asking why people dislike spanish criminals- because by definition what criminals do is shit up everything. If they stopped being criminals they'd just be spanish, and that's fine, just like how if the romanian gypsies stopped being fucking gypsies then they'd just be romanians.

There's nothing wrong with the races gypsies come from, but the gypsie culture is fucking trash.

>>132232671
Your Irish travelers are totally different from our gypsies Nigel even if they share similar behavior, why do bongs keep getting this confused.

Gypsies has had the misfortune of being a nomadic people trapped around feudal and capitalist nations

>>132232627
I hear Gypsies had a faith allowing them do steal. In this day, one family live in a house next door, and I don't have any problems with them.

>>132232673
Gypsies isn't typical nomads, they are don't have herd

>>132232672
Irish gypsies are just Irish that diverged from the rest of the population a very long time ago, they did some genetic studies on them.

>>132232648
They're like Jews concerning viewing outsiders as subhumans who can be exploited and leeched without any feeling of guilt, but they are too dumb to take advantage of it the ways have done, through banking, commerce and industry, so they have to resort to petty crime and scams.

>>132232668
Azis?

>>132232627
They're like fleas, beggars whores and thieves the whole lot of 'em

>>132232672
We have euro-style gypsies too. They're all equally shite.

>>132232674

They don't consider non-Gypsies to be humans, just talking beasts. They actually have very strong rules against theft and cheating and so on, its just those rules only apply to other Gypsies.

>>132232677

What a load of crap. Judaism teaches that all humans have a single ancestor, non-Jews are just as human as Jews.

with all the other minorities, you will meet at some point meet "the good ones". Even liberals will acknowledge that a good ones have not turned up within gypsies. The gypsies who become good, stop being gypsies- it's just like jews, there is a boiling off leaving only the parallel society.

>>132232683

This. Gypsies and Jews are ultra-tribal because only the ultra-tribal ones resisted assimilation. Those that still exist have been "bred" for tribalism, both eugenically and culturally.

Aren't gyppos originally from the "untouchables" hierarchy in India? Just wanna make sure

>>132232682
no no it's not that

they have this weird version of Christanity where Great Ancestor Gyppo helped out Jesus somehow and in return Jesus expressly gives them permission to steal from everyone else

https://everything2.com/title/The+legend+of+the+gypsy+and+the+nails+from+the+cross

like it's for reals a thing

>>132232685
People so shitty that they got kicked out from India for being too disgusting.

I'm a burger and I know next to nothing about Gypsies. They sound like modern day nomads that just thieve their way around Europe. Are they that bad of a problem? Do they really just show up in a village and squat there and no one can force them to leave? It seems bizarre to me they can just set up shop somewhere without some altercation.

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>>132232628
>Irrational

>>132232669
I have to admit, reading his comments make me want to cull him and his family. These people only learn through scaphism. Europe has a shitload of patience. If these scum lived in China, they'd already be massacred.

>>132232688
Gypsies are like Mexicans that move around a lot.

>>132232691
I've lived in rural and urban areas of the US and don't see Mexicans acting like this at all. Whenever I talk to a European they make it sound like Gypsies are their own independent area of mini Detroit that cannot be punished.

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>>132232628
Unsarcastic gratz on the ultra successful b8 m8

>>132232691
I know many Mexicans, and in general, they tend to work hard, take Catholicism seriously, and so forth. Only issue is they have many kids, but honestly, they are not comparable to gypsies.

Gypsies really need to be kicked out of Europe.

>>132232627
Cultural tradition.

>>132232627
Gypsies come from the dalit class, the untouchable class of Indians.

Basically they've historically been marginalized. And are forever marginalized as a result.

>>132232630
>>132232639
>>132232645
>>132232671
>>132232677
>>132232690
>>3027320
One day life will punch you in the stomach and you'll realize all this hate was pointless.

>>132232684
>>132232683
It's not just that, but every gypsy who attempts to join the society they reside in and participate by getting a job is pretty much expelled by them, so they lose all their friends and family. If a girl attempts to do so she's kidnapped and forcibly married off and impregnated to prevent her from leaving
Needless to say, there's very few gypsies who leave.

>>132232653
There are other kinds of success, getting an education and a steady job for example.

The problem is this success is not easily transferable, the person has to change themselves, the success may be long coming and when it comes they generally have to move somewhere else.

I'm not a leftist, gypsies (or Roma) are partly to blame for perpetuating their environment but they are still a product of their environment.

>>132232627
Because why would I share my food with creatures lower than dogs

>>132232697
Fuck off, Gypsy!

>>132232627
Because they've made the conscious decision not to integrate. They are one of those marginal groups James Scott writes about in The Art of not Being Governed. Fascinating read, by the way. And I assure you of this, as there are quite a few gyppos in the country I happen to live in.

>>132232627
If you ever interacted with gypsies you'd understand why.

>>132232648
>that kid in the red shirt in the back
BOGGED

>>132232627
>>>/pol/132094842
>>>/pol/132104401

>>132232627
croat here
people dont like them because they
>steal
>they use broken tools to wiegh metal they buy
>their houses are very ugly and they are prone to throwing trash in their back yard for everyone to see
>they breed like hamsters
and this>>132232648

source: they live not 5km away from my house

>>132232706
>>they breed like hamsters
Well, in this case Gypsy Nation have a bright future

>>132232645
Come to Ireland, we didn't have communism; still have a fuck ton of gypsies

>>132232701
t.based paki.

>>132232663
What do you do about savage white people then?

Why not judging individually?

>>132232655
They dont give a fuck about industrialisation, you make it sound like we took away their purpose since the industrial revolution, yet they didnt want to assimilate hundreds of years before
>>132232673
Poor gypsies. Responsibility is too heavy a burden for poor Romanii people, we should give them money instead, to ease their suffering.
>>132232681
>my rules apply only to me
>therefore, they are RULES instead of simply SURVIVAL
Rules imply a certain level of civilisation, they only know hierarchy, much like a group of monkeys.
>>132232699
>product of their enviroment
>nomadic people
Pick one, m8. Assimilation is a bitch, but its neccessary. but they gladly take welfare.
>>132232702
So what, does that excuse them?

Imagine if you mixed a jew and a nigger, a jigger if you want and you got agypsy. Stupid as fuck but he will try to scam you out of money

>>132232627

because we get to live with them around

Nomads do not get along with pastorists, regular euros vs gypsies is the modern manifestation of that older conflict.

>>132232627
Take a look at them,how could you not hate them?

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>>132232627
>that one town in Bulgaria were the mayor procclaimed that crime had gone down with 100% after all the gypsies had moved to Sweden
G-d bless Schengen.

>>132232635
Not all Romanians are gypsies, but a lot of people in Romania are gypsies
They speak their own language and have their own communities, usually do not interbreed.

>>132232627
Racism lmao

Eastern European here
Communism tried to integrate them into their parent nations, they didn't want to because "muh culture"
Capitalism tried to support their independent culture and create a civilized minority, they didn't want to because "we are not different from the parent nation"

Go figure it out. Instead they chose to live in ghetos with state benefits. Here in Bulgaria education up until university is completely free, yet a minimal number of romani children attend school. Further more, there's a state benefit for gypsy families whose children attend schools, and they still don't attend. Go figure...

>>132232720
>Go figure...
They are just inbred, which leads to a ~80 general IQ which, in turn, causes everything else, bace. It's either the soap factories, chemical castration and reeducation camps for everything younger than 5.

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>>132232713

Because they are thieves and vandals.

>>132232627
Gypsy women are the cutest of Europeans. They have the sexy dark complexion with that touch of European.

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>>132232724
>Gypsy women

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>>132232724
>cutest

>>132232724
Shiieeeet, are you burger?

>>132232727
Yes don't know why that's important though.
>>132232726
Nice grandma but I'm not a gerontophile.

>>132232728
>Yes
It's all clear now. Burgers are functionally retarded by default. I don't think there exist a more diseade-ridden, disgusting and retarded creature than the gypsy female.

>>132232718
>Not all Romanians are gypsies, but a lot of people in Romania are gypsies
They are like 5% or something.
They stand out like crazy, to compensate.

>>132232650
>There are also big communities of armenians, russians, jews (pre-WWII). Nobody ever had problems with them which meant they were accepted just fine in society.
I remember some news story about chinese immigrants in Romania.
Gyppos gave them a hard time, so they started hating them just as much.
Yeah, they came from another side of the planet, and already hate their stupid guts, after a short stay.
Or that time they made refugees from camps in France so pissed off they beat the dailylights out of them and burned their shanties.

>>132232697
Hating a gypsy is a true expression of love, since these people are only worth the blade to their throats.

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>>132232628
>irrational
>they steal everything
>irrational

>>132232730
I mean that the locals had no problem with or hatred for the many various races and nationalities living as productive members of society in the country. Gyppos are the odd ones.

>>132232670
What are you meant to do?

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>>132232728
This is a 30 year old gypsy woman.

>>132232672
>implying there are no Romani in Ireland/bongland

>>132232728
American females so "beautiful" that even gypsy looks attractive compared to. I feel it bro

>>132232730

I wish I had saved the BBC interview some limp wrist idiot had with an old Muslim man in Britain. The guy was bitching about gyppos and how scum of the earth they were and the BBC faggot literally went "but that's racist you don't want to be a racist do you"

Nobody likes gyppos. Muslims dont Christians don't secularists don't.

>>132232627
Got a relative who used to work in immigration and she said gypsies are a huge problem because no matter where they arrive they don't give a fuck about the law and instead follow their own set of rules

>>132232697
*teleports behind you*

>>132232668
Camarón

"Gypsy" is a way of life, not a race or nationality. A 100% purebred "Gypsy" gets permanently expelled from the community if he or she tries to abandon the lifestyle. I know a few former Gypsies who founded a NGO dedicated to getting people out of that dysfunctional community. Whatever they do however won't change the bigger picture since the Gypsy population growth far than outweighs the few that get out.

My view is that Gypsies have a very tribal "us vs them" mentality. This allows them to think about the people and the environment that surround them as resources to be gathered and used.

>>132232628

>people actually fell for this

"Being poor, filthy and unpleasant is our culture and identity"

"What the fuck do you mean you don't want us on your property, give me money you bigot"

>>132232641
>Is it possible to become stupider as a sub-group evolution survival strategy?
Of course just look at the USA [spoiler]:^)[/spoiler]

>>132232628
yeah its definitely not because theyre thieving scum or anything

>>132232697
>hate is pointless
>wants to punch people in the stomach
liberal logic 101

>>132232743
>fell
/his/ is on 24/7 raid aleart from /leftypol/ and they literally, non-ironically believe this.

>>132232654

Gypsies or Tinkers?

I'm in Deep East Texas and we have Tinkers, which are just Irish white trash doing their level best to imitate Gypsies. I've never seen any Roma, but I have seen a fucking ton of Tinkers. Usually they're moving through, scamming old people with the old roofing scam.

When I was a kid, a bunch of them set up their trailers near my home town (Corrigan). They scammed a few old folks and the local sheriff showed up to their camp at 3am with a fucking raft of deputies. All the adults got arrested and all the kids went to CPS. They never came back after that.

>>132232711
Don't know what the solution is, just explaining what's happening.

They're the only group of people that I could comfortably force into a gas chamber without feeling a shred of regret

>>132232748
>implying this thread wasn't made by a /pol/tard
>being this new

Read the rules and lurk 4 years before posting.

>>132232752
It's not about the obvious bait thread, it's about the post.

>>132232751

Having seen Tinkers up close, I can agree with this. If Gypsies are anything like them, the whole bunch needs to be herded up.

Like I said, the cops near where I grew up had zero tolerance for the fucking animals. Anywhere they set up shop, the cops hunted them down. It was funny because they were all driving around in trucks with this bullshit contractor logo painted on the sides. So the first time one of then got caught scamming a local, the cops swooped in and raided the entire camp. Since every trailer there had drugs in it, every adult got carted off and held under the highest bail possible. Being that the kids were also living in these trailers, they all got split up and sent to the four corners of of the Texas foster care system. It apparently took months for the families to get the kids back. After that, the Tinkers avoided San Jacinto, Trinity, Polk and Angelina counties like they were paved with anthrax.

Normally, I don't advocate that sort of thing, but Tinkers are walking plague. They will never integrate. They'll just pass down the same shit behavior generation after generation forever. The only way to break that, barring extermination, is to imprison the adults and split the children up so the only choices they have are lifetime incarceration or abandoning their shit culture.

>>132232630
IIRC they perform on southern european levels on IQ tests. So genetically they are not even that bad. But their culture is disfunctional beyond repair. Eliminate the gypsi culture and assimilate the gypsies and youre good.

>>132232755
>IIRC they perform on southern european levels on IQ tests
[citation absolutely needed]
I swear to fucking god, american retards come every fucking time and shit up everything to death with their corn sugar-fueled retarded uninformed opinions.

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>>132232633
>>132232635
Pretty ignorant of you to swallow up the romanian=gypsy meme; there's lots of gypsies all over the balkans, they are completely distinct from the native population, you can tell the difference from a mile; gypsies look like fucking indians, straight out brown complexion and everything. Oh. and they steal everything + most of the beggars are gypsies
>>132232718
>>132232730
According to last census (2011) the percent of gypsies is 3.08%. But it's true, they stand out like crazy since the whole of europe and maybe the rest of the world thinks we're all gypsies
t. romanian

>>132232755
They're the most inbred people in Europe if not the world, 60% of their marriages are with relatives. They're fucked beyond repair.
>perform on southern european levels on IQ tests
No they don't. In my country most of them score below retardation level.

>>132232756
>>132232758
okay maybe it was south asia, not souther europe.

http://www.unz.com/jthompson/gypsy-intelligence/

>Adult Roma have intelligence scores very similar to the South Asian stock from which they separated centuries ago.

but considering that south asia performs around 85 and southern europe around 90 the difference isnt that big anyways.

>>132232759
>confusing south asia with south europe
Americans.

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>>132232759
>literally from the source you posted

>Gypsie village next to town in Greece
>gun and drug trade flourishing
>bullet misses or some shit and hits greek babby
>greeks chimp out and try to burn pikey homes and stuff
>police doesnt dare go in pikey settlement, instead tries to control Greek chimpin'
>gov is like 'these people are opressed, have lighter criminal charges and free entry to universities'
Gee, i dunno

>>132232761

> IQ of 60
> Koko the gorilla has an IQ of 82

She's more honest, too.

>>132232759
Gypsies are complete fucktards in every sense of the word.

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>>132232763
I'd rather live with intelligent gorrilas than with gyppos.

>>132232764
Pic related, from his citation. Gyppos are mentally retarded by default.

>>132232761
Gyppos are a prime example of what happens when you import an inbreeding minority into your country.

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>mfw /his/ mods actually exist and aren't just a myth

If you have to ask,you wont understand.You just go live near them for a week and you'll understand it.

>>132234127
>week
*day