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>Steve Bannon is causing a stir inside the administration by pushing an idea that's anathema to most Republicans: raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans to pay for steep middle and working-class tax cuts. (Some officials who've heard Bannon's idea think it's crazy, but the President's chief strategist believes it's a potent populist idea.)

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>>132186999

Brilliant move if he can pull it off.
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Why not just focus on cutting spending across the board so we can cut taxes for every class and not turn into a socialist shithole?
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>>132187363
its not hard to pull off.
Tax bills needs 60+votes, so some dems need to sign on, and will... they want tax reform too

Use high taxes on 1% as bargaining chip(something that already helps you) to get something you want in return.
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If they pull this off, it's the end of the Democratic party period. Democrats will either have to side with the administration on this or be labeled as elitist thralls of the wealthy. This is big.
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>>132186999
Wtf I hate taxing the rich now
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>>132186999
checked, bannon is a legend for taxing the (((rich))) if true
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>>132187467
because we've had 60 years of pretending the gap between the upper and middle class isn't widening further and further

nobody up there has ever actually "felt" a single tax hike
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>thinking this will ever happen
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>>132187651
Let's just hope they don't make birth control "free"
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>>132187467
Why not both.jpg

I'm not for raising taxes on the rich. They're taxed too heavily now. Doing so would accelerate the benefits to the middle class and this ensure a 2020 win
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>>132187467
We're doing that too. Its more efficient to do both though. Plus lower income spend more than higher income. Higher income save money which is good for them but in general bad for the economy at large so if you let the lower income spend more of their money it pumps more energy into the economy.
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Isn't this a democrat policy that trump supporters are all against?
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Why are republicans so fucking stupid?
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>>132187651
This. Literally 9D chess.
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THEY TRYIN TOTAKE RICH PEOPLES MONEY
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>>132186999
How will ObamaLeaf try and counter this?
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>>132186999
Save the middle class and you save America
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>>132188009
Birth control has way more uses than just birth control. Women who have extremely hard period cycles need it to function. Without it they can actually lose the ability to have kids at all because of how hard periods can be if you have a hormonal imbalance. Just like how viagra is primarily used as blood pressure medication.
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>>132187467
but how will Jamal afford his weed?
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>>132186999

If true, the Democratic party will be reduced to a SJW lobbyist group
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>>132188096
They'll fall in line
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>>132187651
It really would be the final nail in the old conservative/liberal divide, right-wing populism's clearly been coming for some time now but it still has Paul Ryan and the like to deal with.
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>>132187651
except Trump is bending over for Republicans on policy / legislation.

He barely listens to his advisors anymore.
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>>132188009
>free birth control
>not the best politically feasible (i.e not eugenics or forced sterilization) way to suppress underclass births
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>>132187567
Yeah but the Democrats want Trump to fail on everything, even if that means passing something they agree with.
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>>132186999
and bannon is gone in 3 2 1
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>>132188053
I suppose I could see it that was but as it stands the top 10% already pays 75-80% of the taxes and raising them wouldn't put much of a dent into curbing our annual deficit.
I think we really need to put a greater emphasis on cutting spending hard while encouraging the rich fucks to invest more of their money into the economy through a lower corporate tax rate.
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>>132188497
Kushner and his ilk have already tried to push out Bannon. He knows Jewish tricks
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>mfw libs try to oppose this liberal idea
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Do it. Buffet and Soros would shit themselves to end up paying higher taxes for doing literally nothing to stimulate the economy instead of playing a poker game where you need a billion dollars to enter.
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>>132188595
I don't even know what Kushner's deal is anymore. One party says Kushner is the mastermind behind all these Never Trumpers getting into the White House. The other hand says McMaster and Cohn are the evil ones here and Kushner is being used as a scapegoat.
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>>132188586
>10% already pays 75-80% of the taxe

> raising them wouldn't put much of a dent into curbing our annual deficit.

You cannot have these two statements be true.
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>>132188586
I mean i agree with that too. Whats strangling the economy is the damn 40% tax bracket for small businesses. Thats fucking insane. I hope trump follows through with lowering it to 15%. If he does only that he will have my support perminantly.
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>>132188586
you are mentally retarded
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>>132188736
They're largely aligned against Bannon. McMaster has interests in upholding the military-industrial complex with useless foreign wars for the benefit of Saudi Arabia and Israel. Kushner is just the go-between for Israel. Both stand something to lose with someone as conscious as Bannon
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>>132186999
OUR
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>>132188586
Sean Hannity? I didn't know you posted here!
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>>132188265
Also does this.
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>>132188203
Libtards will say that the poor/middleclass still need to pay taxes to have a stake in government

>>132188736
No, if Kushner helps Trump get kicked out of office then he's out as well. What he's doing is pushing Israeli interests and whispering neocon kikery into Trump's ears, which is almost as bad.
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Oy vey goy, that's antisemetic! What about our libertarian principles, you better not raise our taxes goyim
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>>132188626
Future politics is multicultural neoliberals vs right-wing hippies, we're just getting started here.
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>>132188096

Meh, make it small and I don't mind. As a political ploy it's invaluable.
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>>132186999

I really do like Bannon, tbqh.
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Nat Soc.
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>>132188754
I mean given that our annual deficit is hovering around a trillion dollars, you're going to need a pretty fucking big tax hike that's going to have to stay in place for some time and make some real cuts (which the dems won't budge on because gibs).

>>132188816
Same, so far I've been impressed with his push for cutting regulations and taxes for smaller businesses and it's possible he could offset the Fed's "coincidental" decision to suddenly hike interest rates under him and trying to tank the economy.
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or he could cut spending
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>>132188821
>natsoc flag
>calling others retarded
lel
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>>132188955
I mean. Thats the fish's problem. Adapt or die.
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>>132187467
Cut taxes for the "rich", but go after the globalists and their evil loopholes.
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>>132186999

Bannon is fucking brilliant. It would completely flank the Democrats and they would be fucking devastated.
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>>132187697
Bannon's being increasingly sidelined by the Trump administration anyway. If this was Nazi Germany Bannon would be Ernst Rohm.
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>>132187651
Nah, Dems will just make up some bullshit about the tax hikes not going far enough and demand Trump add in reparations to blacks, women and LGBT's directly funded by a specific tax white males in every tax bracket.
And when the Republicans refuse to go along with their retarded shit the MSM will blame republicans for killing the bill by not allowing the moderate concession of reparations or whatever
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>>132186999
Nice.
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>>132186999
I support this. Who financed Trump, lots of small donors. All the very rich were for Hillary. Time to show them the buck stops with the President,
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>>132187707
It's widening because thats what people do. The cream rises to the top. Ever hear of Pareto's principle?
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>>132187651
God I hope like hell this comes to pass, watching reddits collective mind explode would be orgasmic.
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Bannon is a fucking idiot

>let's do what failed shithole socialist nations do!
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>>132189119
I'd be fine with this, fuck Zuckerberg, Bezos and all those other cocksuckers.
Multinationals have no sympathy from me on this.

You know, regardless of if a tax hike goes through I think Bannon is easily the best advisor in the cabinet and I hope to god that snake Kushner doesn't kick him out, seriously fuck that douchebag.
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>>132188053
> save money which is good for them but in general bad for the economy
pls go Keynes
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>>132186999

The 1% are disproportionately jew scam artists using their money to manipulate America. Fuck yeah Bannon has the right idea. How long until the corporatist left brands taxing the rich as anti-semitic? Maybe we should push the idea among the left so it backdoor highlights the fact that jews control the wealth.
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>>132189071
Our GDP is $15 trillion.

The governments in the US collect about $4.1 trillion in a year income and payroll taxes.

a 30% increase in taxes in those who pay 80-90% of the money would balance the budget and not hurt those people at all in that they would still be able to afford their lifestyles.
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>>132188586
Rich fucks just invest in (((stocks))) and gamble on dumb startups like Juicero
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>>132188364
We need quite a few more congressmen.
I wish Trump would start supporting his own guys now.
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>>132186999
wtf I hate taxing the rich now
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>>132189335
I think the only cream is dribbling off your chin
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>>132188586
If the top 10% already pay 75%-80% then we should make them pay 100% and just abolish taxes on the lower 90%. I'm not suggesting a very high tax rate either, it's just what's the point of taxing the poor if they only provide 2% of the total revenues?
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>>132186999
Bannon truly is /ourguy/. He knows that neither communism not capitalism is the way forward.
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>>132189335
Oh fucking darn, now they'll only make 750K a year instead of a million.

This makes such a difference in their quality of life.
How will they ever feel appreciated or successful now?
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>>132189118
>implying that it doesn't affect humans
>implying the increased usage of birth control didn't create the flood of transgender people we see today
Apply the evidence in fish further.
The women who pee in water parks, lakes, rivers, outdoors in general don't contaminate the local water supply.
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>>132188816
Agreed corporate tax rates should still be cut.
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>>132186999
>Trump: Oh jeez Bannon thats such a crazy idea I didn't come up with 100% for sure. I guess I could try it.. can't say its my traditional conservative idea though
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>>132189412
>the 1%
The whole concept of "the 1%" is a Jewish trick. 99.9% of "the 1%" are just smart capable people who are also tireless workaholics and slave away 80+ hours a week to make $460,000 a year
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>>132189493
Trump needs to support candidates for congress that are in his like mind domestically. Unfortunately I don't think this is going to happen.
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>>132187651
This
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>>132189691
99.9% of the 1% are Jews
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>>132188096
No idea if this is true, but it sounds like a starting point, and they'll art-of-the-deal it down to something like keep the taxes on the rich, lower the taxes on the middle
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>>132186999
this is retarded, the rich guys are bringing the money, not the middle class, if u tax the rich he might just move bussiness to canada or mexico and just export his goods. Wont be such a good idea then , would it?
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>>132189663
Trump is not a true conservative though leaf shill. Nice try.
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>>132189586
This would be one of the best ways to get people out of poverty and create a robust middle class.

Poor people accomplish much more with an extra $10,000-$20,000 than rich people do with millions or tens of millions, which are usually just squandered away in shit stocks or sit in a bank account, doing nothing for society.
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>>132189364
According to an inside source (meet with healthy skepticism), they're working on it.

http://victuruslibertas.com/2017/06/fbi-anon-responds-to-vls-viewers-and-readers/
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>>132189195
Excellent concern troll, CTR. The LARP flag was a nice touch.
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>>132189362
>Yeah, fuck failed states like norway and Switzerland
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>>132188816
theres a tax on just being self employed that has to fucking go
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>>132189703
Agree. He should start this now, and then try to get back in with another wave of new congressmen in 2020. Make it a package deal type of thing.
but I'm just an armchair strategist, so I could be very very wrong, but something tells me the Republicans aren't preparing to maintain this victory.
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>>132189814
>the joke
>your head
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>>132189593
It's not so much cutting down on their quality of life as it is their capability to invest in their businesses and startups, not that I think all of them do that but raising them too high will just lead to more tax evasion.
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>>132186999
If he can get it done I will vote him for Prez come 2020,or vote for Trump again.
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>>132189785
i'm cool if the (((1%))) leaves the country, we're better off without those fucks
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>>132189586
If you abolish taxes on a group, that group will petition and vote endlessly for gibs because they don't have to worry about being taxed for it. Cutting their taxes would be fine, but something must exist so that they have a stake in government.
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>>132189691
>implying it's healthy or good to work that much
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>>132189785
>that flag
What the fuck do you know about money? Seriously, is that what happened to the rich in your country or are you just being an idiot?
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>>132189969
which is why we freeze accounts and prosecute people / companies that do that.

Yeah, law enforcement will actually have to get off its ass and do its job for once.
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If this plan sees the light of day they will crash the stock market. They think this will hurt Trump, but Trump will reveal them for who they are for all of the public to see. It will be up to the man in the street to Make America Great Again.
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>>132188009
Free birth control is only the worst idea to the geniuses here. The rest of society has reckonized the benefits and pragmatism. I mean, I know /pol/wants women to wear chastity belts and reverse women's suffrage but this site is more about compensating irl beta-ness with anonymous edgelording and reactionary contrarian positions to intellect signal, which is really just vying for (you)s, which is pretty fucking beta
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All hands on the cannons for Bannon
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>>132189960
Any candidate that he has publicly endorsed or supported has gone on to win. The real problem however are the Cuckservative baby boomers who always vote in the primaries. They are the ones who keep voting for the establishment. So basically you NEED to go vote in your primaries so the boomers don't fuck us over yet again.
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>>132189094
he has 19 government agencies have already been iced its not enough
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>>132188447
The problem isn't Trump not listening to his advisors the problem is most of his advisors are cucks
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>>132189969
So what you're saying is instead of business owners being able to invest in new businesses, non business owners will have a better chance at starting their own businesses? Great!
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>>132190204
I have voted every year I could since I was 18
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>>132189540
>>132189593
I always forget /pol/ is full of retarded poorfags who unironically thing the only difference between them and rich people is that the rich had connections.
Just admit you don't like to work hard, take chances, and you're not that smart.
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>>132189960
I think he needs to prepare more in the meantime for the 2018 midterms, he has a huge opportunity to gain even more congressional seats with the party and thus more power coming into 2020 (especially since the dems will have 22/33 of the senate seats up for re-election next year including 3 in the rust belt states that Trump won).
Ousting Paul Ryan from the Speakership would be another notch in his belt, as would increasing the power of the Freedom Caucus while pushing out the neocons.
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>>132190189
If free b.c. is so pragmatic to prohibiting crime and other deleterious effects on society the government should subsidize porn for all the betas that want to rape or shoot up schools.
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>>132187651
Don't even begin to build that frame bud. THis is something I really want and would like for this to bring everyone together and end this partisan horseshit. If you cunts begin saying "HURR DURR THE DEMOCRATS ARE DEAD" then you might as well be shills working for the billionaire class to keep their taxes down. Let's keep this discussion civil for once, and regard it as a win win instead of a win lose. Otherwise, we will fail as a country and get what we deserve.
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>>132188009
>implying that would solve anything while they can still access welfare and foodstamps
they should be giving out free IUDs and BC
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If Trump does this, he can kiss good bye to 2020
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>>132190273
What?
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>>132188495
No Democrat would ever get reelected if they voted against progressive tax reform. Ever.
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>>132186999
2020 would be an absolute lock, in fact Republicans would probably have the government in total for the next 2 decades
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>>132186999
I want Trump's plan from his campaign. It would put an extra $500 in my pocket every month. I could really use that.
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>>132188096
Money ain't trickling down anywhere. Tax cuts on the middle class are good. I'd like the rich to cover even more expenses (hey maybe if the middle class actually had something left to tax we wouldn't be in this position) but frankly the very rich are too good at dodging taxes. They'll forge documents, lie, cheat, and kill to avoid paying more.

>>132188265
Birth control tricks the female body into thinking it's already pregnant. Women on BC are basically like women who are permanently pregnant.
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>>132190092
It's neither here nor there. Some people are just far more driven and energetic than others(ESPECIALLY shitposting NEETs on /pol/). What may seem like a life of slaving away to you others find extremely rewarding.
I guess /pol/ doesn't get out enough to really meet any successful people. If you did you'd know that there's a good reason they are rich and that redistrubuting wealth from these highly productive people harms everyone because the poor, lazy and entitled always squander it.
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>>132190435
FUCKING THIS!

He might gain a few million berniebros and people that lean left, but my 10 ancap buttbuddies will vote for BASED JOHNSON
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>>132186999
He'll never pull it off with GOP majorities. The leadership will simply never bring it up for a vote.
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>>132189614
Weakness plain and simple. And i say that as a closet tranny.
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>>132189335
Not everything is explained in terms of the Pareto principle faggot. And it's existence does not in any way suggest that more taxes are bad for the rich. All in all, the rich will remain rich, period. They will keep their status. 750 k/year is still a lot of money nigger.
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Bannon is /ourguy/ but the other republicans will refuse because of their kike donors that own them
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>>132190082
>that group will petition and vote endlessly for gibs because they don't have to worry about being taxed for it.

They already do that
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Increase property taxes on expensive propety too

Rich faggots are almost all dems
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>>132190324
>(((connections)))
why are 20-30% of ivy leaguers jews, despite being 1% of the population? doesn't add up when we crunch the numbers, even if we make generous assumptions about jewish iq
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>>132190860
This. Also fuck the ancap retards in this thread
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>>132189593
You socialist piece of garbage. The wealth inequality is rising due to globalism not taxation. Enacting tariffs would end the wealth inequality. Rich do not pay taxes they will just offshore their funds if there is no tariffs
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Trickle down doesn't work and Reagan was a senile faggot only boomers like
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>>132190338
Exactly. He needs to select and promote /his guys/ for 2018.
The 2020 campaign will be rough, depending on the state of the country, because the dems will basically parrot "why haven't you made America great again yet?" over and over, but if he promotes a bunch of congressmen to go into office with him as a "this time we'll clean them all out and really get stuff done", I think it might work.
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>>132189071
>our money literally isn't real
>deficits really don't matter
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>>132190917
>You socialist piece of garbage.
That's national socialist to you, motherfucker.
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>>132189969
No, Trump is cutting the corporate tax rate. What is being debate is increasing the top income tax brackets, while lowering the rates for the lower brackets
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if you can find a way to get those in the .01 % who use every sleazy trick in the book not to pay a dime I'd be all for it.

There is a class who are just too slick to even get a half way accurate assessment of income. the money bounces around the world - through shell companies tax haven banana republic accounts... it's just impossible to touch them.

There are a lot of freeloader corporations too.
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>>132191028
Kill yourself you fucking failure, stealing from the rich is as bad as stealing from anyone
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>>132191028
kys loser
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Lost a lot of respect for him now. The whole reason the class divide is so big now is because administrations who do this sort of shit just end up being lobbied to create fairy-dust provisions for their special donors.
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>>132191060
Your internet is a publicly regulated utility.
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>>132190324
False. 1-3% tax bracket here. Will gladly pay higher taxes if the benefit goes to a wide number of non-Jewish whites. If it goes to other groups, or if it just sits in the federal government and goes to special interests, then I have a problem.
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>>132190704
>you don't like to work hard, take chances, and you're not that smart.
Sure. Now payup you greedy kike. Don't pretend most superrich fags (and I'm not talking millionaires) don't get rich off of speculation. Rarely do ultra-rich fags get rich from producing something of value such as Elon Musk or Bill Gates. Most of 'em are greedy kikes, plain and simple who have to make others poor to keep their wealth.
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>>132191060

Depends how the rich are getting rich.
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>>132191167
Go to Venezuela if you like taxing the rich so much, piece of shit
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>>132189943
Norway and Switzerland don't have niggers, spics, and obese/disabled people. FACT: when you have a healthy, homogeneous society, political/economic system is irrelevant.

American labor force participation rate is a little over 60%, and it continues to decline.
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>>132186999
Brilliant! Force the jewish Our Valuesâ„¢ neocons into an alliance with the jewish SJW's and sweep up the rust belt permanently into an alliance with the South while shedding kikes right and left.
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>>132187651

This.

Adding Jim Webb to the administration would be the icing on the cake.
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>>132191219
For my age I am the 1%. Not everyone here is a NEET.
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>>132187467
>Cutting taxes for the Jews
Nice try there shlomo.
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>>132190861
There are plumbers who make more than (((Harvard))) professors. A lot of people with connections get into Harvard, but a lot of them are also very smart. Is it better to be smart, driven and well connected than dumb, lazy, and socially inept? Of course it is.
Do Jews use ethnocentric practices to help propel their own best and brightest ahead of us naive goyim? Of course they do. But that doesn't mean you can't get rich. Anyone in America can get rich. There are ghetto niggers who are worth hundreds of millions here.
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>>132186999
No one should have it better than me

-Republitard Voter
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>>132191189
you're a retard. The already rich pay no taxes due to loopholes, lack of tariffs, structuring etc. Interest and cap gains taxed at a lower rate than income as well. Raising top tax brackets on income will create a permanent rich class by placing an even larger premium on capital vs labor
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>>132191060
Trump will be cutting more taxes in an absolute sense, it's just the rich won't get the benefits of the tax cut but instead the middle class and poor.
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BASED BANNON

never lost faith in my boy
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>>132188053
>Higher income save money which is good for them but in general bad for the economy at large
You have no idea how economics works, do you?
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>>132191060
>stealing from the rich is as bad as stealing from anyone

Go jerk off to some gold coins you faggot.
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>>132187467
Definitely need to do both
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>>132189364
>I hope to god that snake Kushner doesn't kick him out, seriously fuck that douchebag.

Kushner and Bannon used to be good friends during the campaign
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this thread has made me lose all hope. The average pol user is a communist loser with no economic sense
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>>132190989
If the economy stays in good shape then their entire narrative will shatter, that would be satisfying on a personal level and on a financial level for our nation.
I hope he wins re-election and reinstates Glass-Steagal to fuck with them harder.

>>132190860
Property taxes are handled on a local and state level leaf, and end up fucking up shit worse for everybody.

t. Illinoisfag which is partly why I'm against tax hikes, the cocksuckers in our legislature just approved a $5 billion tax hike on us while we already pay one of the highest state income tax rates in the nation fucking commies.
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>>132191183
You know that you can do whatever you want with the money that doesn't get taxed right? You can spend it helping non-Jewish whites. Of course that would mean putting your money where your mouth is.
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>>132190472
>No Democrat would ever get reelected if they voted against progressive tax reform. Ever.

Repeat pedophilia, rape charges, fraud, embezzlement, lying under oath, being KKK members... all of that will be forgiven by liberals. Voting Yes on anything Trump's administration proposed? Too far.
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>>132189335

>some faggot was born out of some trophy wife of a billionaire's rancid cunt, so he deserves everything in the world while MY family deserves to starve! i'll surivve on the shit trickling down from his ass!

cuckservatives are the worst
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I recall hearing that Trump may implement a tax amnesty for corps./individuals with offshore/illegal holdings.

They would have a one time opportunity to bring the capitol in and make it legit - but they would have to pay a tax on it.

I thought that was a primo idea. It would be interesting to see how much money comes home.
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>>132191569
> some guy with a Nazi Germany flag defending the (((Free market))) that Hitler fought against

Lol you're retarded
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>>132188447

This

Trump went from Republican outsider to Republican establishment line-tower
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>>132187467

> Try this first
> If it fails then tax rates rise for the ultra rich and tax cuts for those making under $1 Million/year minimum
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>>132186999
It's redistribution of wealth but it would go over well with moderate dems and independants. It would also be check mate for the dems.

The republicans have become so extreme with their backing of companies that off shore american labor, they almost resemble globalists.

Trump could retain the old guard republicans if he lowered corporate taxes in addition to Bannon's plan.

It really would be devastating to democrats.
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>>132191049
See this I'd be fine with, I'm against raising the income tax but cutting down on loopholes would be good (although Trump did benefit from them but that shit was enacted by Clinton).
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>>132191241
>>132191241
Most of our problems are caused by Republican legislation that waters down our social programs and makes them utterly ineffective.

Our healthcare is shit and expensive because Republicans fucked up medicaid / obamacare funding. People are fat as fuck because MUH RIGHT TO EAT WHATEVER I WANT.

Niggers and spics do nigger and spic things because Republicans gerrymander their way into power.

That is not to say the dems are fucked and their policies are fucked as well, it's just that dems don't seek out and undermine Republican policies like the Republicans do to the dems.
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>>132191569
t. some retard who doesn't even make 6 figures but thinks he's an economic expert

Time to cite some jewish economics telling us why raising taxes on incomes over 1 million a year is impossible
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>>132186999
Fuck yes. Republicans are great on social issues, but crap on the economy. If they can turn that around then they'll win ALL the votes.

Rich people aren't gonna love it, but it makes too much political sense.
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>>132191569
Hitler hated capitalism you larping faggot
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>>132191569

>Tax cuts
>Communist
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>>132191569
>communist loser
What do you suggest Hitler?
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>>132191315
There is a Navy Secretary position still vacant and he held it under Reagan, I wonder if we could petition him to put Jim Webb back in that slot?
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>>132191569

>LARPER thinks the nazis loved capitalism, the free market, and trickle-down economics

at least pretend to know anything about national socialism before you start larping
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>>132191646
loser
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>>132186999
hikes for those earning $418K/year or more
Phew...
i guess trump is for real.
under obama "wealthy" meant families earning around 100k. So, basically 2 parents earning less than the national average income is "wealthy" and he increased taxes and premiums on those people the most.
thank god that fucking nigger is out of office.
i honestly wouldnt have any moral quandaries about disemboweling obongo in front of his family.
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Just enforce the actual fucking tax laws you have already and stop kike CPAs from shifting it through 9 offshores / buying 'intellectual property' / investing in overseas company where the money just flows right back to them.

If you can't do that though i guess this is good.
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>>132191907
I live in Virginia, appointing Webb would be yuge for us. One of the few Dems I respect.
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>>132191668
stop mischaracterizing Hitler's views to justify your laziness, you parasite
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>>132190942
>Trickle down doesn't work and Reagan was a senile faggot only boomers like

THIS

Reaganomics is cancer
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>>132187651
its basically a checkmate move

I dont see any way they could spin it that wouldn't make them look awful to their base
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>>132191060
I get you, but these days it's hard to defend the rich when Jews are starting to make uo the most of them.

If there was a tax for rich Jews I'd be all for it, but there's no chance of that happening anytime soon.
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>>132192147
> t. cuckservative neocon who doesn't know a thing about Hitlers political views

kys fag
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>>132191646
>starving
>in Burgerland
If your family is starving in the US you probably do deserve it. Even literal retards are obese here. Downies can walk down the street and fill up on Big Macs every day.
And why exactly are you entitled to the fruits of someone else's labor? Why is /pol/ so full of parasitic leeches?
Don't you know Jews are the masters of welfare scams? By adding to the government coffers you are just giving schlomo more money. Dems like (((schumer))) will of course support raising their own taxes because in their mind it's like pulling money out of their front pocket and putting it in the back pocket.
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>>132191763
you're already taxing labor at a higher rate than capital. Interest and capital gains taxes are low. Raising income taxes on top brackets will prevent class mobility by preventing people from acquiring initial capital through labor aka having a job vs what warren buffet does
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>>132191757
>obamacare
>ever intended to work
Shit was designed to fail and just forced people to buy corporate health insurance while raising insurance rates for the middle class by 20-25%, it was literally designed to force the federal government to adopt single payer once it failed.

>republicans are to blame for niggers and spics chimping out in heavily blue districts
lolwut
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We really really do not need anymore billionaires with the power to dramatically influence the world based on their own myopic view. The ability to become a multimillionaire is still sufficient for people to still try their fullest to make money and contribute to the economy. So yes, tax the wealthy and cut taxes for middle class.

And before anybody say it I don't care if the billionaires take their money and leave. fuck them, they are not worth it.
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>>132186999

Bernie Bro here.

I support that stupid racist fascist this one time. Tax the multi millionaires and billionaires
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>>132186999
>>132186999
Trump is just the tool. Bannon should be the real figure head of right wing populism.
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>>132190414
>spend entire time with "HURR DURR REPUBLICANS ARE BADDDDD"
>about to be BTFO
>"H-hang on guys, this would be good for the whole country, so let's all just get along..."
Your side is dead. DEAD.
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>>132192332
>Bernie Bro here
>>>/reddit/
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>>132191893
tariffs
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>>132192129
Do you think it would have an effect on turning VA a little bit red again?
I'm worried they're going to be stuck as another Maryland in the future at this point.

Also holy fuck why is recaptcha so fucking slow right now
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>>132190614
yeah me too, then I could actually start working towards a tax bracket where I don't have to worry about taxes so much instead of using all of my money towards rent/groceries/bills
this would be pretty fantastic.
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>>132190146
I will make it simple so that your little monkey brain can understand. At 2008 when we were forced by European Central Bank (controlled by the fucking Juden) to adjust our taxing system in the communistic tax the rich not the poor BULLSHIT , industrialists just straight up closed up shop and moved their factories to Bulgaria and Fyrom where the taxes are irrelevant and then imported ( or exported depends on how you look at it ) their goods back to Greece. Even the basic stuff, like tobbacco and milk packaging factories. Even the shipowners changed the vessels flag from Greek to Malta or Bahames because the Greek flag is now too tax heavy for them. Now the taxes are higher for everyone and the gov. is making less money . Is this understandable by you ,commie nigger, or are you going to go ape shit " pay danbtds " again? who do you think contributes more each year by taxes? 5% of the income of the rich or 5% of the income of homeless anarchofaggots?
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Unsocialize the supply of goods and services. End barriers to entry. Start with healthcare. End caps on med school positions, make the medical associations hand out residencies ASAP to every med school graduate, abolish drug patents.

It's all demand and supply. Bread would also be super expensive if demand was massive relative to supply. Nobody ever talks about supply in politics, just whether government or consumer should pay.

Understand economic scarcity.
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>>132192202
kys you parasite. Taxing labor is communist and it leads to shortages. When you're ready to grow up and stop being a parasite you can learn about tariffs
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I get the strategy behind this but i'm a flat tax guy. Gotta break a few eggs I guess...
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>>132192361
I'm not a democrat you fucking nigger. I'm a Libertarian you sonofabitch, and if we don't begin to act like adults, then we're going to lose everything we've got.
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>>132192177
taxing NEW income will help the existing rich. I would not expect you to understand, you are a poor loser
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>>132188096

Democrats are generally for increasing taxes across the board, just more so for the wealthy.

They may disagree with it in principle, but as long as their own taxes are going down instead of up, they'd probably go along with it. Could see it having fairly widespread popular support.

Would never make it through Congress in my opinion, though. Most politicians are not middle class and are too deep in the pockets of those who are rich enough to stand to lose from this.
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>>132192293
Obamacare was stabilizing the markets and was set to stabilize the markets before the Republicans fucked up medicaid expansion / funding.

You lower insurance by getting people who aren't going to use it to take it. This is economy 101 type stuff here. My full coverage $1,000,000 car insurance is $40 a month where I live because my state makes it law to have car insurance.

The major problem obamacare didn't fix is drug pricing. The Republican states that didn't take medicaid fucked up the entire market as poor people use hospitals as their primary care provider, which balloons costs. They also don't seek preventative care which also balloons costs.

You don't seem to understand what gerrymandering is.
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>>132187467
Honestly just cut income tax across the board and replace the revenue with increased inheritance taxes. I don't begrudge a man enjoying the fruits of his labor, but a family hoarding wealth for generations and living off the interest is the pinnacle of kikery.
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>>132186999
ITT /pol/ pretends they understand taxes

when ever the media says "tax" a few things need to be asked

1. How is it classified? All taxes need to be classified in order to trigger a collecting

3. How is it actually collected? All taxes must be defined has to what and when can be collected

4. What bill defines the collecting. Every tax has a bill. No bill, no tax.

5. Where in the bill is the reason stated to collect. Reasons are where the political trading happens

5 is where scaremongers attack because usually the trading is connected to other bills. Most tax bill that get the most press are those that streamline collecting often by eradicating a dept or introducing a regulation and collecting taxes elsewhere. The death tax is an example of this fake news dance. the bill was connected to others bills regulating insurance companies. ergo the name game to scare dumb voters.

10 out 10 times when tax is reported without direct citation to real draft it is to lie about it so idiots who dont understand taxes rally for other people.
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>>132192177

But 99% of rich goys are still controlled by jews
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>>132192575
>I'm a libertarian
>supports Obamacare, tax hikes and more gibsdat spending
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>>132192473
No, no going back on that. I meant it'd be good for the state due to Webb being a Virginian and a veteran, plus we have all the naval stuff here.

I live west of Lynchburg so we depend on the wealthier parts of the state to carry us in all honesty.
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>>132192613
>just more so for the wealthy.
uh no
Dems are more owned by rich billionaires than Republicans are
This fantasy of "Republicans for the rich" is just one of those media fictions that are endlessly repeated
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>>132187651
Shut up nigger they may actually be on board with this
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>>132192683
Retarded, inheritance taxes only fuck over land owners, billionaires just structure trusts, offshore accounts or hide money in metals and art. Is everyone on this board underage?
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>>132192712
This is true. I am one of them.
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>>132192151
"Trickle down" was a strawman meme invented by leftists. It wasn't a real thing, m8.
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>>132192724
Also
>acting like adults

feminized son of a single mother or female
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>tfw you realize Bannon is a BLOOD'n'SOIL benign autarkic nationalist who just wants "Americans" (not American business) to thrive
>tfw you realize he was the only thing that really made Trump interesting, and Trump's personality was incidental
>tfw you realize he's now a minority voice because Trump is drowning in neocons
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>>132192575
>if we don't begin acting like adults
as he calls you every name under the sun
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>>132186999

tax the living shit out of the wealthy

How many yachts do these asswipes need?
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>>132192724
No, I support giving the middle class more breathing room. But, I guess I'll do some research now so I can sound more intelligible when discussing the topic. See you in federal prison faggot.
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>>132191571

Someone has to pay for Chicago senpai.
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TOXIC IDENTITY POLITICS WERE FINANCED BY BANKSTERS/JEWS IN ORDER TO DERAIL ECONOMIC POPULISM ON THE LEFT, IN A PANICKED RESPONSE TO OCCUPY AND TEA PARTY BEGINNING TO WORK TOGETHER ON COMMON ISSUES THAT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO JEWISH POWER.

THIS IS WHY ECONOMIC POPULISM HAS BEEN ABANDONED BY THE LEFT IN FAVOR OF AN UNHOLY ALLIANCE BETWEEN CORPORATISM AND SJWISM.

ECONOMIC POPULISM IS WHAT GOT TRUMP ELECTED. THE DEMOCRATS HAVE MADE THEMSELVES VULNERABLE TO A KILLING BLOW -- IF THE GOP TAKES ECONOMIC POPULISM FROM THEM THE DEMOCRATS WILL NEVER RECOVER BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE NOTHING ELSE BUT CORRUPT CORPORATISM AND HYPOCRITICAL CHILDISH SJWISM.

THIS ALSO FUCKS OVER THE JEWS WHO CONTROL THE WEALTH.

THINK, YOU FUCKING KEKSERVATIVES
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>>132192507
Except we're also lowering the corporate tax rate. We're readjusting taxes, not just raising them.
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>>132192917
retarded, you are taxing new income when you raise income taxes not the existing wealthy
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>>132192917
t. college socialist who never worked a day in his life
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>>132192859
>>132192913
>acting like adults
what's wrong with saying that? You sound like you were raised without a father.
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>>132192646
I actually do understand gerrymandering because your fucking democratic party has been doing it heavily in my state and forcing Crook County democrats and gibsmedat onto our suburban districts.
If your plan can't even sustain itself without a few states onboard then it's fucking flawed and can't work, especially when it forces everyone to buy corporate insurance and limits the market to a select few large companies.
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>>132187651

idk who the "wealthy" are supposed to be and how much higher these taxes are supposed to get from where they are now.

if its a moderate increase with it decreasing with federal government spending decreases and its aimed at the top 0.5% or so, like 2+ million a year and up, then I'm for it.
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>>132192811
Then crack down on shells in addition
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It's a start. But what would really be nice is to confiscate all Jewish wealth in America and give every white man and woman a nice big fat check.
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>>132189785
they don't deserve to be Americans if they don't want to help their fucking country that is making them so fucking rich
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>>132193043
stop being a little retard and learn how the world works. Death taxes take from goy families only
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>>132192521
> t. doesn't understand a single thing about economics
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>>132193129
parasite
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>>132192922
If you supported that then you wouldn't be supporting Obamacare which raised insurance rates on the middle class by 25%.
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>>132192955

>canada
>15% corporate tax

that can't be true...
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>>132192935
>THEY WILL HAVE NOTHING ELSE
>THEY WILL HAVE NOTHING ELSE
>THEY WILL HAVE NOTHING ELSE
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>>132192811
>Is everyone on this board underage?
It is summer.
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>>132192306
this is how I see it, I lean right on pretty much everything but this, I find it retarded and repulsive that shit loads of repubs defend people illegally moving assets out of the united states in massive amounts to avoid paying taxes on it, shit while were at it, I hope trumps arrests all the bankers that obama bailed out in 2008, it would make this whole thing come full circle, and then maybe people would start to see (((them))) for what they really are, a bunch of fucking parasites.
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>>132186999

The wealthy have so many ways to jew out of paying taxes they can drive up the tax number substantially without anything really happening. But each % from the wealthy pays for immense cuts for the poor and middle income earners.

Presenting it as a tax cut and not more gibs is a stroke of genius.
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>>132187651
5th dimensional backgammon being played here. His strategy is no longer confined to the laws of time and space. He is communicating through dark matter.
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>>132193126
Wow epic, do you have a real response or just more garbage about how jews will always win so no one should bother trying?
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>>132193122
I say the same thing about Greek shipowners and factory owners
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>>132192986
He's probably still in highschool
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I don't think it would even need to be a tax hike, just cut taxes for the none rich more.

>Under $150k a year - 20% cut
>Over 250K a year - 5% cut

Same benefit and you can claim everyone got a tax cut.
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>>132186999
OY VEYY

DOESNT HE KNOW THAT TAX HIKES ON THE RICH DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECT JEWS?

WE MUST SHUT IT DOWN!
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>and instantly, Trumptards became Bernie Bros
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>>132192955

In all fairness, most US corps don't pay anywhere close to the statutory 35% rate currently. There are a lot of write-offs and stuff bigger companies especially can take advantage of (such as depreciation of assets).
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>>132192986
>>132192975

Fuck you
Trickle down only applies to my cum dribbling down your mother's leg
How many more tax breaks do these greedy fucks need?
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The top 1% will dump a substantial amount of their income into tax free securities and pay less than currently. Thats kimda how this pans out. Unless some new laws were made that prohibit that.
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>>132190426
Its funny that even rabid anti-black national socialists on /pol/ will attack abortion and birth control, especially in the form of gibs. They don't seem to understand that if we gave out IUDs to every ghetto black teen girl, we could wipe out nigger birthrates country wide AND reduce crime (by reducing future foot soldiers) within a decade.

The future of white supremacy lies in free birth control gibs.
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>>132186999
Fuck the rich who happen to be mostly kikes, I hope the top tax bracket becomes 60%+
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>>132193539
hello leftypol, imagine where we would be if hillary had won huh?
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>>132187467
Because people will die!
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>>132186999
TWO SCOOPS: Bannon pushing for tax hike on wealthy to fund cuts of middle and working classes

FTFY
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>>132187467
Because years of "trickle down" didn't work. It has to be forced to work.
>And by forced to be work, I mean figuratively shiv the elites' shekelbags so some of that "trickle down" actually trickles down to the middle class, instead of stockpiling in some Caymans bank or shell companies
>Of course, build a figurative net to prevent undeserving commies from getting shit
It's all about the middle class. They're the real wealth generators.
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>>132193018
Oh I know democrats do it, it's just that when Republicans do it, the end result is niggers and spics doing nigger and spic things.

You are too dumb to realize that you are still paying for uninsured people everytime you yourself go to the doctor or get a prescription. Do you really think it costs $1000 for a bag of saline? Do you really know why it costs you and your insurance that much? Because of the cost of treating uninsured people.

It wasn't flawed, Obamacare's framework mirrored Mitt Romney's successful healthcare plan in his state.

I don't think you understand much of how insurance companies are formed or operate, because the same companies would exist if Obamacare wasn't the law.
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>>132193647
>Why is that so hard to accept?
Why is it so hard to accept that some people deserve to die?
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>>132193488
I agree with this, tax cuts across the board but make it smaller on the wealthier classes.
We can maintain a progressive tax system without turning into Bernie's Batshit Hike Ride and making sure everyone across the board gets some more of their income back to them.
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>>132192498
I'm adding that one to my collection of rare jews. If I can just find one of "the jew who integrated completely with his host nation" and I'll have the full set.
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illegal immigrants will die............

Do NOT stop Obamacare!
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>>132186999
After working at so many places that amount to virtually "capitalism for us, communism for you" I wouldn't mind seeing fake ass capitalists get a couple fake digits taken off their screen.

It's not like I personally agree with it on principle, just a massive fuck you and that's it.
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>>132193408
No I'm telling you how things actually work right now. You will further solidify dominance of jewish families by increasing income taxes instead of taxing capital but you have a goy peanut brain so
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>>132193647
>tax cuts is giving money to rich people
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>>132193647
>not taking as much of someone's money=giving them cash

How the fuck did this kike win a nobel prize?
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>>132193545
No, local small business has to the pay the same rates. The businesses you're talking about conduct their business internationally and have to pay taxes in the country they conduct business in. This tax they pay can then be deducted from their corporate tax obligation. It fucks over small business.
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>>132193784

TOTALMENTE GRATIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Si, Por Favor, Ese
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>>132186999
This means we have failed at repealing Obamacare. Fucking niggers. Traitor Republicans will. Be tarred and feathered. We should remember their childrens children children so they get purged.
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Middle class do more spending and middle class do more with the money when they have tax cuts. Hopefully Bannon does tax the rich kikes so it goes to American people instead of some Israeli bank account.
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>>132193647
Man Krugman is becoming more insufferable by the year.

>>132193704
What the fuck are you even saying?
How does gerrymandering in primarily red states make niggers and spics chimp out more in their heavily blue districts?

And the reason Romney's plan worked was because it was implemented on the state level and not federal for 330 million people, similar to why single payer can never work on a federal level (though Cali and Vermont can't even get that to work in their own states).
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>>132193558
Trickle down works, but you need protectionism. If a rich guy get's a tax cut, but uses to buy property in Europe or invest in Chinese businesses then it does nothing for the american poor and middle class.
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>>132193558
please kill yourself you peanut brained fuck. Taxing income will prevent new people from becoming rich thus enshrining the current rich. You need tariffs or taxes on capital to fix the existing problem
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>>132192306
Do you realize how retarded you sound? If Billionaires have all the power and pull all the strings then who is going to be the one cutting the strings?
You?
A bunch of autistic basement dwelling NEETs spouting antisemitic memes an a Japanese Anime Forum?
The American Voter?

It's hilarious to me how fucking entitled so many posters itt are. You have no idea what it takes to be successful. Not a clue. You've accomplished exactly nothing in your life and yet you feel like you deserve to the power to put the reigns on others who are smarter, harder working, more ambitious, and more driven. Why?
Because you know you can't achieve that level of success so you wish the government would make it illegal for anyone to be richer than you.
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>>132193679
Trickle down is a liberal slander term for a tax plan that has proven to work every time it was used.
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>>132188495

This has nothing to do with Trump, all he'd do is sign it. He probably wouldn't though since this would hurt him, his family, and the army of Goldman-Sachs guys he has working for him.

This is the kind of shit Democrats would vote for, which means it's probably a DOA idea, but you only will have the GOP and the WH to blame.

Bannon is basically promoting the Dems idea of "Consumer Side" (Middle Class tax cuts) economics and not "Supply Side" (Super Rich
tax cuts) economics loved by the GOP for decades.
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>>132194051
Tariffs are essentially taxes on everyone through higher prices
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Cut Business and corporate tax, raise personal tax, incentivize investment instead of hoarding wealth. It is a smart move the economy will fucking boom.
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>>132191646
> Have Nazi flag
> Have the subhuman way of thinking of a begging gipsy.
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>>132194101
It'll work if it's packaged with a Corporate tax rate cut
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>>132194161
No how about you take 5 minutes and learn some non-jew economics? Tariffs protect labor by preventing labor arbitrage. The profits from labor arbitrage accrue as corporate profits. When you're done being a retard you can learn the difference between real and nominal prices.
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>>132188626

They wont, they'll love it, which will cause Trump voters to lose their shit and once again oppose their economic interests.

Obama will tweet "good idea" and dumb as Righties will literally be burning their trailer homes to the ground.
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>>132186999
wtf I'm a Bannonbro now.
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>>132194262
>Tariffs protect labor by preventing labor arbitrage.

They protect labor that can't compete on the global market, but they tax labor that can compete on the global market. That is because this labor doesn't need tariffs to be competitive and thus by paying tariffs it is forced to pay more.
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>>132194193
> instead of hoarding wealth
You think Bill Gates and co. don't have all of their money invested in shits everywhere and instead leave it under their mattress to be eaten away by inflation ?
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>>132186999
Fuck I hope bannon can pull this off. Trump is doomed for a second term unless he can do something huge for populism that got him elected. This would do it. Most Americans don't give a flying fuck if the top richest people are taxed heavier. Republicans try to pretend they do since they're paid and cucked into it by Grover Norquist, but it's not reality.

Come on bannon.
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>>132193572
>free
>not mandatory
>not just sterilizing every undesireable
You know nigresses often get pregnant just out of base instinct right? It's not always an accident. A lot of times they just want a kid so they can hold onto them and have something that will love them.
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>>132187651

This is why it won't happen. Besides, they can't pay for any Tax Cuts unless they cut Medicare and Medicaid. So a Healtcare bill will need to pass first.
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>>132194358
They invest it abroad though, do you think they invest it all in America?
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>>132188955
FIRST THE FROGS NOW THIS
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>>132193512
>Jews
>every paying taxes
You must be 18+ to post here
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>>132189335
is soros rich because he is one of the best civilization can offer, or because he is the worst.

serious question.
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>>132194357
without tariffs and without fixed exchange rates the standard of living between countries will converge as capital seeks out lower labor costs causing trade deficits which is exactly what is happening now. You should be embarrassed to know this little yet have an elaborate economic opinion
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Getting schooled on "trickle down" by a nog..
https://www.aei.org/publication/thomas-sowell-on-the-trickle-down-myth-workers-are-always-paid-first-and-then-profits-flow-upward-later-if-at-all/
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>>132194025
because it drives them into those heavy blue districts.

When they are around their own kind, their propensity for violence exponentially increases.

You even admitted it yourself. Romney's plan worked because it was state level, which meant that everyone had to abide by that law, you don't have county sovereignty in a state.

So you are admitting the reason why Obamacare didn't work was because medicaid expansion wasn't taken by Republican governors.

Single payer works in Canada, and they have better care than we do, the top 10 best countries for healthcare are all socialist healthcare systems.
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>>132194370
All we have to do is indoctrinate them at an early age into realizing they can have as much sex as they want and not get pregnant. They will be lined up for IUDs like crazy.
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>>132191219
HURRR DURRR MUH STATE RUN ECONOMY = RAISING TAXES
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>>132194236

That's true. But if it adds to the debt or deficit it will then face GOP opposition, won't it?

Will Trump sign a bill that makes him pay more taxes?
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>>132194520
Bitch fuck off with your virtue signaling. I'm a contract software developer, tariffs won't help me whatsoever. I'll just have to pay more for everything I buy.

It's a fucking tax. If you think it's a worthwhile tax that's one thing, but stop pretending it isn't a tax.
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I can't wait for the Washington Post headline:

>trump wants to tax the rich, here is why that is terrifying
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>>132194657
You're not advocating no taxes you pussy. Assuming there are going to be taxes I am telling you how to tax in such a way that will decrease the wealth inequality and raise the standard of living in the country by fixing trade incentives
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>>132194657
The point of tariffs is to discourage imports. Don't buy foreign stuff, don't pay extra.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwmOkaKh3-s
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>>132194765
Nigger, I'm saying increasing the top income tax rate marginally is a far better way to deal with income inequality than heavy tariffs.
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>>132194694
I don't think I've heard the word "terrifying" more than this last year.

Apparently those people just run around terrified all the time.
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CUT MY TAXES PRESIDENT BANON PLZ THX
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>>132193173
Why are so many neocons LARPing as natsoc now?
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>>132194905
yeah and I'm telling you that's made up, with no basis in reality, and is actually an embarrassing statement if you think you are informed
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>>132194861
At the end of the day, I have to pay more for shit. It means I reach the top-tier income slower. How is this any argument against an increase in the top marginal rates?

The rich become rich through investments anyway, capital gains is what makes you a millionaire not simply labor.
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>>132194530
Canada also has a tenth of our population, less gibsmedat and longer waiting lines.
It doesn't fucking work because you're trying to implement it at a federal level and forcing every state to comply by said law instead of letting them choose to implement their own versions of Romneycare or whatever they want, it's an idiotic idea to base your whole revamp on butting the republicans out from the senate debate (which the dems did in 2009), ramming the legislation into law without even reading what's in it, making the industry into even more of a bureaucratic nightmare than before and forcing everyone to buy corporate insurance or face a fine/prison time.

>When they are around their own kind, their propensity for violence exponentially increases.
And when you force them into nice suburbs and other primarily white neighborhoods then they turn into new ghettos, have you even looked at the histories of Detroit and Camden?
Maybe if they voted red instead of for the same shitty failed poverty programs then they wouldn't be in the shitter right now but go ahead and keep blaming muh gerrymandering.
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>>132194959
We live under a global communist society now where central banks own the means of production. Please don't post unless you are 18
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>>132194979
If you were actually knowledgeable you would advocate getting rid of social security taxes. Your're just a useful idiot for rich jews
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>>132194358
Sure they do just not in America this is where Tariffs will come in to play.
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>>132193647
>implying that all the money is coming from the 1%.

That is what makes me the most angry. I don't agree with making the top 1% pay for everything, but at least admit that you are fucking over everybody that isn't covered under ObamaCare.
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>>132195029
correct so if you wanted to fix wealth inequality you tax capital or use tariffs to prevent labor and environmental arbitrage
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>>132188816
>40% tax bracket for small businesses

Sorry I haven't heard this one. Source?
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>>132195189
> tax capital

Your arguments are contradictory. By taxing capital you make it harder for me to become rich.
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>>132195121
separate conversation
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>>132193931
Most small business are pass through entities, so corporate tax rates don't affect them. The income tax rate and FICA are generally what they're concerned about.
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>>132195102
>central banks own the means of production
confirmed for economic knowledge coming from conspiracy youtube videos
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>>132195229
false. If you want maximum class mobility you would create a premium on pretax earnings created by labor vs capital by taxing labor at a lesser rate than capital
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>>132195303
Most small businesses don't make that much money for a top margin tax hike to affect then. Remember the rest of the brackets will still have their rates cut
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jew parasite scammer -> white, salt of the earth redistribution
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>>132195307
you can come back when you turn 18
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>>132195102
I wouldn't be surprised if you used the words "fractional reserve banking" as if it's some hideous crime in this thread either
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>>132188096
>My opponents support it, so I will oppose it

That's what liberals do. If it's a good idea, it's a good idea regardless of who supports it.
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>>132195446
kys
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>>132195397
not an argument
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>>132192068

>under obama "wealthy" meant families earning around 100k. So, basically 2 parents earning less than the national average income is "wealthy" and he increased taxes and premiums on those people the most.

The $100k/a year was for individuals. For married couples it was like $250k/year.

Married couples ALWAYS get better deals on taxes. They also get even more deals if they have children and own homes.
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>>132195344
>create a premium on pretax earnings created by labor vs capital by taxing labor at a lesser rate than capital
Spoken like a true retard. Capital gains can compound see >>132195121
You only seek to force the poor and middle class to work their entire life and be dependent on the government. There should be no capital gains tax whatsoever. Furthermore, social security should not be a tax but rather forcing the poor and middle class to invest 10% of their income.
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>>132191682
>mfw people actually thought Trump would be different
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>>132195576
holy fuck I never knew there were so many economically illiterate people on this board
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>>132190082
>read:niggers
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>>132195029
Tariffs protect and encourage domestic industry, meaning more available jobs and higher pay for the citizenry. You don't have to pay more for shit unless you have some particular product you need to buy from overseas. Meanwhile your employment is made more secure from outsourcing and your income is bolstered by having higher prices forced on your foreign competitors. I recommend watching the interview I linked above when you have the time.
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>>132195102
>implying there's any real difference between (((capitalism))) and (((communism)))
Modern Globalism is simply the dialectical synthesis of communism and capitalism. Both ideologies are inherently materialist and (((internationalist))) in nature. Do you really understand anything about Third Way economic theory?
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>>132195682
>i literally can't even
Why are some natsocs indistinguishable from progressives? Social security has fucked the american poor and middle class.
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>>132192120

Republicans oppose this too, if you remember Grover Norquist's "pledge" based on Ronald Reagan. Changing the tax code like this leads to a defacto tax hike. No matter how you get to a tax hike, according to Republicans mantras, it's still a hike an needs to be opposed.
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>>132195035
There were literally hundreds of amendments added to Obamacare from the Republicans. I'll say this again, because apparently you don't understand economics. In order for insurance prices to lower, healthy people who do not necessarily need healthcare NEED to participate, there is NO OTHER WAY to lower premiums other than single payer. Quit drinking the koolaid because it's making you retarded.

Canada has better care / cost per capita than we do, regardless of wait time. The top 10 best countries for healthcare are all socialist healthcare systems. You can't deny these facts.
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>>132194042
It's more about asking what the economy needs to do better because different types of people are going to spend their money differently. At the extreme ends of the spectrum, the rich are going to invest their money and the poor are going to either pay debts or buy stuff.

If the country needs more capital investment then it makes sense to cut taxes for the rich. If the country needs more economic consumption, then it makes sense to cut taxes for the poor.
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>>132193572

Those nigger teens get pregnant on purpose you idiot.
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>>132195576
>people should be encouraged to gamble with their savings
>poor and middle class should be forced to "invest" in the stock market
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>>132195795
Social Security should simply be repealed.
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>>132196028
A Jewish wet dream
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>>132195827
> there is NO OTHER WAY to lower premiums other than single payer
100% false. You increase supply.

> Canada has better care / cost per capita than we do, regardless of wait time. The top 10 best countries for healthcare are all socialist healthcare systems. You can't deny these facts.
Not facts.
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>>132195827
Another way to reduce premiums would be to stop providing healthcare to people who can't afford it.
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>>132192724
gimme source for that image and I'll vote for trump in the next election.
I mean,I was already going to, but still.
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>>132195795
Natsocs are progressive, they're just not (((progressives))).
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>>132195762
Outsourcing isn't that much an issue. You see pajeets are paid little for a software contract, they then fuck up the code horribly. The businesses then hire Americans to fix this horrible code. This is why Google and other companies always want the H1-Bs because they want to ensure their workers know what they're doing.

Immigration regulation is also quite different from tariffs, we need to be much stricter on immigration. I'm fine with a little bit of tariffs, but capital gains is how I'm moving up. I make 60k a year and put a quarter of it into investments. Increasing capital gains will just make it harder for me to get in a position where I can live off my own investments. For the vast majority of Americans a marginal increase in the top income tax bracket means nothing.
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>>132195827
>talks about basic economics
>supports obamacare
Top lel
Again, since you seem to not understand what I'm getting at at all, implementing that sort of shitty system on a federal level in a nation with 330 million people (compared to Canada's 36 million), while butting the opposition out from any talks on how to write the law and ramming it through as quickly as possible through the senate without reading it makes for a shitty flawed law that relies heavily on the red states whose representatives you just fucked over.

Why don't you just fucking move to Canada and get in on their system instead of trying to turn ours into a bigger bureaucratic clusterfuck than it already is? We had the best healthcare on the planet up until the 70's when the government started intervening more into the market and forcing in HMO's.
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>>132196139
yeah. You increase the supply of people who are buying it. I don't understand what you are talking about and why it is a refutation of what I am saying.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/u-s-health-care-system-ranks-as-one-of-the-least-efficient
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>>132186999
No. It will create brain drain. Lower their taxes so they can increase pay.

You can only get out of jews what they are comfortable with already. If you raise their taxes wages will stagnate and people will lose their jobs.

This isn't hard to understand.
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>>132195795
socialism is socialism,
central planning is central planning.
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>>132196210
Shit, best I can give you right now is that it's Chun-Li in her Street Fighter V outfit my dude. Wish I knew the artist too.
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>>132196028
>investment is gambling
poorfag detected
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>>132196373
Republicans added hundreds of amendments to Obamacare. It took nearly a year to pass Obamacare. Can you please stop lying through your teeth like a fucking nigger?
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>>132196432
Imagine if in order to produce and sell bread, you had to be licensed by the government, but the number of licenses handed out were tightly restricted and capped.

The production of bread would be reduced. There would be shortages of bread, price of bread increases and people going without. Then the socialists come along saying "bread is so expensive, we must have single payer bread service" instead of understanding that lack of supply is the reason.

There is a lack of supply and competition regarding healthcare good and services. Med school positions are capped, the regulations are too strict, and patents provide drug sellers with monopolies.

> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/u-s-health-care-system-ranks-as-one-of-the-least-efficient

This is fake. It looks at life expectancy, not quality of care. Care in America is generally better still than other countries. Higher rates of murder and obesity lead to lower life expectancy. This is a lifestyle issue, not a healthcare one.
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>>132196580
What amendments?
The dems had a supermajority in congress for nearly two years and didn't consult the republicans on shit when they rammed the bill into law in December.
You probably think Bart Stupak is a republican for being against abortion you idiot.
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>>132196871
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>>132196580
Also you're quoting a claim from Luis Gutierrez, one of the biggest gibsmedat congressmen in the nation and only 2 republican amendments got in out of hundreds SUBMITTED.
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>>132187467
>cut taxes
>programs get less revenue to operate
>people worse off than before

How about do what Bannon is doing and try and maximize the efficiency of said programs instead of leaving the working white man worse off than before?
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>>132189335
Someone listens to molymeme.

He's right though. Lower the tax on the rich and they may not hide all their money anymore.
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>>132196341
>Increasing capital gains will just make it harder for me to get in a position where I can live off my own investments.
Good. You shouldn't be able to earn money without being productive.

>>132196534
I have money in the stock market, I just don't think it's a good idea to make people do it. And yes, it is gambling.
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>>132196664
https://www.numbeo.com/health-care/rankings_by_country.jsp

http://www.businessinsider.com/healthiest-countries-in-the-world-2017-1/#11-belgium-with-an-average-age-of-811-belgiums-life-expectancy-is-just-outside-the-worlds-top-20-the-country-has-universal-healthcare-but-also-requires-mandatory-health-insurance-for-all-citizens-6

https://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=https://www.forbes.com/sites/danmunro/2014/06/16/u-s-healthcare-ranked-dead-last-compared-to-10-other-countries/

http://time.com/2888403/u-s-health-care-ranked-worst-in-the-developed-world/
You are talking like these problems didn't exist previously
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>>132189420
But not run their companies.

Use your brains people.
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>>132197005
Garbage links, garbage, post, no expansion on your posts, no more replies.
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>>132197107
You lost

Why don't you post proof that US healthcare is top notch?
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>>132196515
fug that's all I knew to start, o well, lets have a toast to thunder thighs and voteing trump.
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>>132197255
Holy fuck you are retarded

why don't you check the dates on all those statistics.
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>>132197402
Yes, so before Obamacare came into play?

US healthcare was better in the past, and is going in the wrong direction.
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>>132190152

We dont though. Look into shadow banking. Even some states are passing laws to get into the industry.
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>>132197522
Holy fuck you are retarded.

A decade before obamacare was passed. During the fucking technology boom after a democrat left the US with a fucking surplus.

God damn man, can you stop and think before you post utter bullshit?
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>>132189691

Well you are full of shit.

Its disproportionately scamming nepotistic jews. Fuck em
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>>132197629
What does that have to do with the quality of healthcare?

Funding for healthcare continues to increase.

You are the fucking retard. It's unfathomable how retarded you are. Go broke and die.
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>>132197717
lol

Here's the retard that thinks that wealth =/= health


Jesus man, go read a book. You are pathetic.
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>>132191436
in his defense nobody really does
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>>132197797
You have nothing to say.

"there was a surplus, that's why healthcare was good" even though the lack of a surplus hasn't resulted in less funding for healthcare, there's actually been more.

You're an idiot.

> Here's the retard that thinks that wealth =/= health
You won't be able to afford healthcare though, right? Go broke and die.
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>>132197629

It was a fake surplus that evaporated with the tech bubble.
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>>132197954
You posted statistics that have absolutely no bearing on what is happening now, you have not posted a single relevant thing yet backing up any of your claims whatsoever. You're the idiot.
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>>132192396

"Bernie Bro" isn't from reddit you ridiculous fucktard. Get out of your bubble.
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>>132194074
How many hours a week does someone worth 14 million work vs someone worth 14 billion?
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>>132198089
>You posted statistics that have absolutely no bearing on what is happening now
Yeah, Obamacare is shitty.

So, you agree we should return to the system of the early 2000's. Because now is worse, and it was better then.

You are beyond idiotic. It was obvious when you couldn't grasp supply. There's no hope for you. Please die in a waiting line.
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>>132198189
lol

Can you please post something relevant to the conversation, some kind of evidence supporting your claim that the US has far superior healthcare?
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>>132188816
why punish small businesses? probably because they are not organized and don't have any defense against these fucking wolves. small business taxes should be nearly nothing.
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