What about Francisco Franco /pol/? Good leader? Bad leader?

>>132157115
he promoted family values decency and killed antifa ... what you think ?

>>132157115
A good soldier but didn't have international support
The day after he died the Freemasonry reconquered Spain.

He was the last spaniard.

/pol/ doesn't read history

A monarchist traitor. But he kept Spain degeneracy free at least.

>>132157115
A very bad one. I hate her wife.
t. jewelry store owner

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He sell our country to the yankees, who stole our last colonies in 1898.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pactos_de_Madrid_de_1953

Apart he sell the truly revolutionary fascist know as falagist.
Only cringe braindead kids likes him here.

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>>132159449

True.

Only Spanish people can tell you, so don't listen to anyone's opinion on him unless they're displaying the geolocal flag. Regardless, I doubt any /pol/ user is old enough to have actually experienced the time when he was in power, so take everything said with a grain of salt. He was definitely not bad, though, from what I've heard. He was against communists and masons, and he put Spain first. Our current politicians do none of those.

>>132157115
Low energy

>>132157115
He saved Spain from Communism but doomed spain economically.

>>132159449

Freemasonry hated him and most of the army because they were not infiltrated. There is a long story behind that.

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>>132157115

Leader? more like same shit than Stalin with different smell

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>>132160121

great guy

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>>132157115
Thanks to Franco Spain is not another south american style shithole

>>132160189
South Americans tend to hate Franco, why?

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>>132160767

Franco is also a taboo in Spain. Only fringe authors like Pio Moa talk openly about him.

>>132160517
>Thanks to Franco Spain is another south american style shithole
Fixed

Saved Spain from commies. Good in my book.

God rest his soul.

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>>132157115
Brilliant soldier and commandant, cuck politician.
>Era «entusiasta de las cargas a la bayoneta para desmoralizar al enemigo»
>Got good Opus Dei and Falangist technocrats in the Governments.
>Cucked to worst Jesus due to his wife.

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>>132159760
>monarchist
>traitor

Spain is a monarchy, you modernist cuck.

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>>132162390
>implying

>>132161116
kek, why is that? Why do discussions end with him?

>>132163403

Sorry. Some faggot following a fashionable ideology doesn't cancel out centuries of tradition.

>>132157115
Implying that americans knows who he was hahahaha.

More than half of the americans don't know even where is Spain.

>>132157115

Pathetic little man

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He put the Falange aside and hos legacy was destroyed in a blink.
4/10 still better than the commies
José Antonio Primo de Rivera was GOAT

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>>132163589
>mfw centuries of spanish traditional monarchism

>>132163855
Spotted the butthurt Catalano

>>132164433

I thought Mark Zuckerberg had blue eyes

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>>132164433
>hapsburg

There's your problem.

>>132163746
He was the fascist leader of Spain, who rose to power after he won the Spanish Civil War. I know who he is, I just wanted to know more about him.
Europeans heads are so far up their asses it looks normal

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>>132164720
kek

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>>132164401
Primo de Rivera was a Mussolini fanboy who wanted to remake Spain in his one image. He was a shadow of his father, who was a great man.

>>132164888

If he was fascist why didn't he ally with youknowwho during ww2?

>>132164701
Asturias mofo, we are Spain. The fucking midget wasn´t even able to erradicate regional nationalisms in 40 years. Sad

Useless piece of shit.

>>132164751
>They were both from the House of Trastámara were second cousins, being both descended from John I of Castile; on marriage they were given a papal dispensation to deal with consanguinity by Sixtus IV.

The kids get all inbred and shiet.

>>132164888
Franco came from a military line, different from Salazar. He kept Spain in tradition, anti-commie and nationalist

>>132165092
Because he was smart enough not to fuck up his country like everybody else did.

>>132165132
>second cousins
>inbred

What?

>>132164888
he was not a fascist, he was monarchist ultra nationalist and ultra chatolic

>>132157115
He BTFO'd the commies and prevented Spain from becoming a Soviet satellite state

But in the long run the marxists won if you look at the current state of Spain... It's amazing how quickly Spain got subverted and his legacy got wiped away

>>132165202
>Because he was smart enough not to fuck up his country
lmao then why is Spain such a fucking shithole?

By and large saved Spain from WW2

he killed Jose Antonio, so he's bad in my book

>>132165352

So eventually Spain did become a South Americans shithole then? It was just delayed

>>132165420
No he didn't, you LARPing faggot.

>>132165092
Because Spain got fucked up during the Civil War and wasn't ready to help Voldemort find Harry Potter.

>>132164888
>fascist
Franco was NOT fascist
He was a pro-monarchist cuckservative that infiltrate into Falange
>>132164401
This man right here was the actual face of Spanish fascism

>>132165441
No it became a cultural marxist degenerate commie liberal refugees welcome shithole just like any other Western European country

South American countries may be relatively poor but afaik they're not so degenerate (apart from Brazil probably)

>>132157115

Fun fact: a girl once named my cock after this man. I think it had a bearing on the way I turned out. I still call my cock General Franco.

Captcha: CELL Avenida

>>132165599
>cuckservative

He was more of a Traditionalist Conservative than you wannabe Nazis will ever be. Go jerk off the Richard Spencer's tits, faggot.

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>>132164888
>He was the fascist leader of Spain

Meh, no really a fascist, maybe the first years, later he had to be softer because they were afraid of (((USA))) since they were completely alone once the axis got defeated.

You may call him a traditionalist, atleast in the spanish sense.

Spain has evolve always around the idea of catholicism, that's what Spain is and the reason why the left hate so much their own country, and he was a catholic with steroids.

>>132165599
>He was a pro-monarchist cuckservative that infiltrate into Falange
I'm not going to list every fucking political gender on the right wing

>>132165365
>lmao then why is Spain such a fucking shithole?

Look where Spain is, and look where Chile is, spot the difference?

https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings_by_country.jsp

>>132165492
who did it then?

He refused to go and rescue him several times, waiting for the communists to kill him.

>>132165881
What the fuck kind of shit source is this where it lists Greece above Japan?

Come on pal

>>132165890
It was never proven that Franco did anything to prevent the rescue.

>>132157115
6/10

>>132160212
This table is so retarded, and since when inflation is not a tax?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tSY2CjP5l4

>>132165064
Go read what Primo wrote.
The only think that defeated fascism in Italy was ww2.
Franco's regime died with him

Piece of shit

>>132166078
Yeah he was very wise.

All the other posible leaders that could compete with him died accidentally.

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>>132165881
>https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings_by_country.jsp

I can also make these (((índexes))) like this.

>>132166308
>Go read what Primo wrote.

I have. It was Romantic nonsense. Franco was a more practical thinker with a greater sense of tradition.

>>132166427
Meaningless conjecture.

>>132166517
You are too naive.

>>132166397

Eat a dick.

>>132166427
>All the other posible leaders that could compete with him died accidentally.

Kek, it really makes you think.

>>132165365
If Spain is such shithole, why do south americans migrate there in mass?

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>>132161313
Spotted the Catalan cuck.

>>132166563
And you're too butthurt that the traditionalist lead Spain instead of some foppish playboy.

>>132166601
Chileans that migrate to Spain only do it to steal.

We have higher living standards than the dumb Iberians. We are whiter too.

>>132166517
He was no Mussolini copycat.
His ideology was different (national syndacalism not national corporatism)
In the long run he would have been better than Franco

>>132166681
In the long run he would have gotten Spain involved in the war. He wasn't as practical as Franco.

>>132166673
>We are whiter too.

LMAO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcpnfMqnbTM

May he rot in hell.

>>132166673
Spain's GDP per capita is 2x yours

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>>132166650
He died in a plane crash.

Another coincidence.

>>132166431
all the data is truth, oecd stats.
The stats they choose is their option of course, but they make sense, in quality life terms.

>>132166793
Lol Even italy wasn't enough industrialized to be in the war, he wasn't dumb Spain was poor and destroyed , even if he wanted he couldn't had done nothing.

Also Franco wanted to be in the war, it was Salazar that convicted him to be neutral (merely)

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>>132166673
Stop using a Chilean proxy.

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>>132166944
Another cuck from Catalonia.

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>>132166904
This is the average Iberian

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>>132166904
And this is us. See the difference?

We are white.

>>132167148
>88% mestizo and white
>white

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Best of the worst

Primo de Rivera was much better but he died in the first month of the war. Then the Axis got BTFO which left Spain dependent on the West, so the fascist elements were toned down. Franco wasn't really a fascist anyway, more of a monarchist and nationalist conservative. He promoted Catholicism more than anything else. He wasn't a great leader, he gave away Spain's African colonies, he didn't do anything against the Jews, and he took some of his beliefs a bit too far imo (he was very superstitious and this mindset seeped into Spanish life generally). But very much better than what came after, Spain has been betrayed by its politicians and the monarchy, and now things are fucked basically.

>>132165110
based Astur
i am a young Asturian-Californian saving every dollar to my name to return to glorious Asturies and return into the ancient sacred land that gave our people life for millenia

>>132166673

Whiter my ass.

The most recent study in the Candela Project establishes that the genetic composition of Chile is 52% of European origin, with 44% of the genome coming from Native Americans (Amerindians), and 4% coming from Africa, making Chile a primarily mestizo country with traces of African descent present in half of the population.[78] Another genetic study conducted by the University of Brasilia in several American countries shows a similar genetic composition for Chile, with a European contribution of 51.6%, an Amerindian (Native) contribution of 42.1%, and an African contribution of 6.3%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chile#Demographics

If your shithole country is less lame than the rest of South America is precisely because your spanish and european heritage, basques mainly.

>>132167277
Lol no fuck you nigger i searched Chile in instagram and yall are a bunch of half breeds

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>>132167423
Our white genes are fact. You cannot deny them.

Excuse the reddit face plastered in it. The criminal's color skin isn't important anyway. The police captain is proof enough of our superior white genes.

We are a race mixed with based Irish and Germans. We are superior by the mere definition of our genes, to the Iberian counterpart.

>>132167132
Franco never wanted in the War. He only let Hitler use a few troops on the condition that they would fight the communists.

>>132167351
>he didn't do anything against the Jews

He banned the Masons and other Jewish organizations. He was trying to solve Spain's problem's, not the world's.

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>>132157115
He was among the few leaders to ever successfully conquer and destroy communism in his country.

>>132164433
>>132163589
>>132163403
>>132162390
>>132159760
>This thread.
I was expecting shitposting, but it's actually a pretty civil discussion.

>>132165599
primo was national syndicalyst

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>>132167713
shut the fuck up dude, what are you smoking, doesnt matter if we're white or not, what matters if we can fucking hold this dammed country, even then, Nicolas Palacios and Miguel Serrano knew we were mestizos and didnt care, in fact, they were proud of that

>>132167772
Masons was a start but he did very little to do more than that.
He didn't actually do a great job within Spain either. Much better than the alternative but Franco's Spain was hardly a utopia.

>>132167277

Is it you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ufhdzYaGb0

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>>132167411
>is precisely because your spanish and european heritage
lmao

Guy on the left? Spanish descendant. Clearly Iberian genes.

Spain never reached the south of Chile, which is where half the country resides. Our based forefathers were Irish colonist, and German colonists.

The Spanish conquest is the biggest meme is since 9/11. Spain isn't good enough for us. UK and Germany are.

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What does /pol/ think about this guy?

>>132157115
Okay but he left this country to rot in hell and people don't know what the fuck to do.

>>132167953
Literally who?

>>132163403
ywn be based spanish dracula

>>132167899
>He didn't actually do a great job within Spain either.

He facilitated an impressive economic and cultural recovery, but he wasn't edgy enough for the Kekistan LARPers.

>>132168076
Hungarian king with a fascist leaning

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>>132157115
Franco was semi-decent, but also weak. Salazar was probably the most decent fascist leader Europe has ever seen, with even Western nations routinely applauding his intelligence and strategy.

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>>132166904
God is this how Chileans speak!? His fucking accent is awful. Could barely understand a word coming from his mouth.

>>132167935
You lads are actually pretty based tbqh, best country in South America
Some areas of Spain are pretty white tbf but most are swarthy as fuck, in general Chileans are probably whiter. Not by a huge amount though

>>132167986
Not really his fault, Juan Carlos betrayed him

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>>132163403
YOU ARE LIKE A LITTLE BABY
WATCH THIS.

>>132168129
>>132168076
Miklos Horthy

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>>132167423
>>132167423
Also, here you go
https://www.instagram.com/chilenaspreciosas/?hl=en

All 100% Chilean pussy.

>>132165620
You never been there then.

>>132166075
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_inequality-adjusted_HDI

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>>132168140
Salazar is so fucking underrated, he deserves more love

>>132168076
Miklos Horthy. In charge of Hungary during WWII

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>>132168201
I still dont understand how the fuck we created this fucking accent and its slangs

>>132168278
shite

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>>132168129
>>132168278
Sounds based.

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>>132157115
Good leader.

Only jews and Atheist faggot think he is bad.

>>132166673
no you don't
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_inequality-adjusted_HDI
you're below russia
shut your trap, you're making a fool of yourself

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>>132159862
>stole

YOU MEAN FREED!

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>>132168229
And then this traitor was elected

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>>132164433
>"marry siblings and cousins together? peasantry!"
>"let's marry off our daughters to their uncles like true royalty"

>>132168229
>in general Chileans are probably whiter.

The level delusion.
Spain is way more whiter then Uk, much more. Spain doesn´t have London, Luton, Leicester and Birmingham, cmpletley invaded towns

>>132168341
How did an admiral become regent of Hungary

My great grandfather was exiled from Spain and only went back to be a part of his regime (don't really know much my family won't talk about it).

Thanks to Franco I have a freebie spanish citizenship, so in my eyes he's pretty good.

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>>132168339
Indeed. His only flaw was the implementation of lusotropicalism, which didn't even turn out badly. If Portugal had won the colonial wars or kept them on a low profile we could perhaps see the only civilized niggers in Africa nowadays.

>>132168229
>Juan Carlos betrayed him
Now did he?
Corruption was there with Franco's regime.
Same for cronyism and party members doing all sort of shady deals with corps.
Same for being cucked to the US and EU's commands. He was a man without ideology and until you faggots admit it we'll have nothing decent in charge of our country.

>>132168729
I don't fuckin' know

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>>132168523
Don't give me the inequality shit. That doesn't mean anything. Just because rich people are a lot richer than poor people doesn't mean poor people live like shit.

Plus, if any of you came here, you would never be at the bottom end merely for the fact you came from the northern hemisphere.

This is the only chart that matters, and as you can see. There is virtually no difference between us, and the dumb Iberians.

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To the cunts saying that Franco wasn't fascist, I present you undeniable proof

>>132169008
>*Gets assassinated and replaced by a literal who*
Nothin personell kidd

>>132168694
>Spain doesn´t have London, Luton, Leicester and Birmingham, cmpletley invaded towns

You haven't seen some areas in Madrid my man, is not that bad but we're heading the same direction.

I hope you don't follow this path Portugal :(

>>132168694
all the white chile has comes from Spain, mixing with natives... but somehow chile is whiter than spain... this goy are deluded as fuck

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>>132169008
>hearts of iron 4
at least play a better game

>>132157115
Mostly everybody in my family who lived through the dictatorship (mom, dad, and at least 3 of my grandparents) loved him. I haven't heard anybody in my family speak negatively of him
My granny in particular misses him dearly

I was born long after his death so this is the most objective info I can give you about him

>>132157115

Ideological primitive fucker, traditional opus dei cocksucker, while he did good job on global diplomacy and creating infrastructure in Spain, we had one of the saddest periods of time in this country. Strong censorship, massive poverty, low progress rate during 40 years till he fucking died.

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>>132169125
I play EU4 and Victoria 2 as well. What's a "better" game to you?

>>132168753
I fucked up, he actually was exiled by the regime so if it wasn't for him I woudn't exist.

>>132167953
based horthy

>>132157115
He betrayed the ideology of the falange.

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>>132169212
What would Spain look like if Miguel ruled for a longer period of time?

>>132169275
Darkest Hour
Hearts of Iron 3
HoI4 dumbed down a lot of the older games mechanics, Victoria 2 and EU4 are pretty good though

>>132169494
Hearts of Iron 3 is too autistic. Go play Red Orchestra 2.

>>132168729
How the fuck did an austrian painter become dictator of germany?

The argument leftists usually present that the Nationalist faction was worse is that 1) they executed more people 2) their killings were more organized.

Reason 1. is because they won the war and conquered every town. Republicans could only do purges in towns they held during the war. Reason 2. is because well, the Republicans included anarchists which just let murderers out of prison so in their controlled cities everyone could kill anyone for revenge, including landlords and political enemies. I don't think it really matters to the person being killed whether he was picked by for an execution by an officer or dragged out of his house by anarchist killers.

>>132165666
Satan's cock is Franco!?

>>132168682
Fuck him tbqh

>>132168694
>Spain is whiter than UK
what

>>132168918
The Carnation Revolution was absolutely tragic. Scandalously understudied too. If the Estado Novo had persevered than things would've been much much better.

>>132168926
>He was a man without ideology
True I don't dispute this, PdR was better.
But Franco clearly didn't want this to happen

>>132159862
>He sell our country to the yankees, who stole our last colonies in 1898.

He was an opportunist. Comparing today's Spain with the last Republic, isn't it possible he did the right thing tho?

>>132169494
>HoI4 dumbed down a lot of the older games mechanics
That's why I like it. I'm playing a game to have fun, not to get out a fucking calculator

>>132169008
>Hearts ofd Iron 4

Solid evidence there, m8, it could actually if Spain had its own focus tree

Btw, nice 90% nat. unity

>>132167953
Horhty miklos katonaja vagyok, legszebb katonaja

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>>132169122
>still falling for the Spanish meme
STOP.

Our founding father, our liberator, is a O'higgings
>O'Higgins is an Irish surname and a sept of the O'Neill family. It may refer to: O'Higgins clan of Ireland.
We are an Irish-German-Spanish colony. Our white genes come from the first too, our 'tanned' color comes from Spain.

>>132169674
>Comparing today's Spain with the last Republic, isn't it possible he did the right thing tho?
Yes, Republican subhumans should all be fucking exterminated

>>132169758
I'm playing with Road to 56 so Spain does have a focus tree. I'm currently a fascist Britain.
I tagged over to Spain to get that view.

It sounds stupid, but HOI4 and other games like that have taught me more history then school. Things like Sudetenland, Japanese-Sino war etc

>>132169212
You sound like a degenerate faggot.

>>132169800
No it comes from mountain indians with stone technology

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>>132169122
Also, Argentina isn't a Spanish colony either.

Both of our countries didn't come from the aberration known as the Iberian Peninsula.

>>132169376
He tried to return Spain to its rightful social order, not in the name of some fashionable ideology.

>>132157115
>What about Francisco Franco /pol/?

One of histories most underestimated leaders. Literally saved Spain from Stalin.

>>132168753
I 've heard Spaniards hate south americans and call them sudacas.

Sudaca = spic

>>132169800
The tan comes from the fact you're mestizos.

>>132166517
I don't think he was too much of a traditionalist. He betrayed the carlists after helping him win.

>>132157115
He literally killed commies. Anyone who does that can be forgiven everything else.

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>>132170056
the majority of our population is mestizo, stop pretending is not, there are of course a big population of whites, and what's so bad about it? we still can be NatSocs and Fascists

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>>132170176
I ain't tanned. I have Irish genes. Many, many people are just like me.

I thank God every morning for my UK genes. I thank God every night for not having Iberian genes.

Northen chile = Spanish conquered, mestizo
central chile = Spanish conquered, mestizo
southern chile = Irish/german conquered, white

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A mediocre dictator. No international repercussion. His main task was to kill the other Spaniards.
He gave all power to the Catholic Church, the true power in Spain. After dying gave the power of royalty to the Bourbon family, another mistake. He gave his political heritage to Popular Alliance, then Popular Party. And now there are only false patriots in power.

After so many years his inheritance is all corrupt

>>132170911
Leftie detected. Go back to the Complu.

>>132157115
He couldn't fix Spain, since most catholic countries are ravaged pieces of shit. In catholic countries you have basically 3 groups of people:

1. Affluent people who want to imitate secularized Protestants, thus they tend to support Marxism and be anticlerical

2. Catholics who take christianity seriously, but those are vanishing

3. All sorts of people in between, basically gopniks, who like money and follow primitive instincts, who are impressed by physical strength, number of sex partners and cars

You see, no matter how hard you try to mix this shit, it will always stay shit, and it will for the time being stink to live in catholic countries, because they're too broken apart

Franco at least saved the clergy from being murdered by communists, I think 4000 priests and alike were murdered, and almost 50% of churches destroyed

>>132171098
I bet you aren't polish

>>132171098
Are gopniks just Eastern European niggers?

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>>132170582
Yeah, I know. Just memeing these Iberians out.

Chile for lyfe. Indian or not. We are the very best.

>>132168963
you're still 10+ positions below in the non-adjusted index
still a fool
> virtually no difference
10+ positions difference
if the Iberians are dumb, what does that make you, my mestizo amigo?

>>132171377
dude, I'm a peasant from Masovia by heritage, it doesn't get more polish than that

>>132171380
well, yes, usually niggers. But I also meant people who are well off, but don't follow the West but also don't follow catholicism, it's hard for me to give them a name. Basically rich idiots, who live only with their basic instincts

>>132169800
> irish spanish german
aaay lmao

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>>132171423
alright, speaking of Chile, did you voted?

>>132169120
Bro, i've been toMadrid and is far far away of wht you see in London:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eziF1aujpLQ

I think Lisbon is in worse shape than Madrid in terms of invasion only Barcelona is worser in all the iberian peninsula.

>>132157115
This is a very beautiful song from the Spanish Civil War.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydp01xbmueg&list=PL4-Rb5wk4OX5BoUld6UYmLdV0bda2jZmQ

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>tfw not in the "Castile finished the Limpieza de Sangre and left no one alive" timeline
Why did I have to live in the worst timeline?

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The only dictator to still have a statue standing at public sight, too bad these mongrels held the flag backwards.

>>132157115
His regime imprisoned my father's father, damaging his health for life and yet my father still insists he was a great man. employment, safety and social security were far better in his day.

>>132171679
No, did you?

None of the candidates want to send the Haitians and Colombians out so I didn't vote.
I have to vote in the next one though, the communists can't win.

>>132171086
False patriot detected.

Giving the power of religion is a mistake. He surrounded himself with people who did what they wanted after Franco's death. There is no legacy.
Primo de Rivera was a good example in a short time, he created ideology, not franco

go back to serrano street

>>132171098
>1. Affluent people who want to imitate secularized Protestants, thus they tend to support Marxism and be anticlerical
>secularized Protestants,???
What does this mean?

>>132171889
Arriba Espana!

>>132171750
The last nationalist victorious alliance for Europe was in the spanish civil war.
Spain-Italy-Portugal-Germany

bunch of stalin's thugs were killing priests, was the only other option. was blackballed from the west forever after..

>>132171981
>Giving the power of religion is a mistake

Spain is a Catholic country, you retard.

>>132171981
>Primo de Rivera
>Not Ramiro Ledesma
Babby spotted.

>>132172044
Go Merkel!

>>132172053
I admire them for fighting for a dream, 'their' dream, fighting for something that you really believe in is wonderful.
Too bad Franco had more interest in his palaces than in smart governing.

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>>132171939
me too, it's so fucking obvious Piñera was going to win this, and I'll have to vote for him in november, what a fucking shame, also, do you know the MANS and accion identitaria? what do you think of them?

>>132172033
I mean the affluent groups of big cities, who administer in many ways the country. Journalists, lawyers, doctors, politicians, professional officers, artists, academics, archbishops etc. They're usually behind the "history of guilts" and anticlericalism

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>>132172414
No man, no idea. Gonna look it up. Give me a quick rundown if you can.

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>>132172044
Heil Deutschland!
>tfw I screamed "Hail Germany!" in German class when I was 16 and got punished for it.

>>132171377
There's nothing unpolish about his post and he's right about catholicism.
It's basically dead. The only reason it's semi-useful is because certain amount of clergy is still quite conservative in Poland despite the faggot pope.
But this is bound to change in the future as there are massive attacks against catholicism from every side and catholics are too soft to defend themselves.
This is why we need to come up with new ideology.

>>132168140
Salazar was really good but you can't do any economical miracle when your country has a too small population and no natural ressources

He and his legacy was (((betrayed))) anyway with the coup that gave up the colonial empire

>>132172516
Meine Fresse, /deutschpol/ ist tief gesunken

>>132172496
(neo)liberasts. yep, makes sense. state employeesare the worst.

>>132169800

lol so full of shit. You guy are much darker than argentinians. You are mostly mestizo with some white people that claim ancestry from spain. Any irish or germans was small scale.

>>132172758
>catholics are too soft to defend themselves.

Conservative catholics are becoming more militant, you idiot. Catholicism is the backbone of Europe and is starting to show more resilience. Why would you choose some flash-in-the-pan modern ideology over it?

>>132172695
MANS is obviously the natsoc movement, accion identitaria is that, identitarians, they say that we should encourage our spanish heritage, and both are pretty third position

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>>132172717
topkek
>tfw I greeted my Spanish teacher (from Catalonia) with a friendly "Arriba Espana" that morning and got punished for it

>>132173031
Lass das!

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none like Abderramán III, khalifa of Cordoba

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>>132172325

>>132173155
Wieso? Ich bin deutscher

>>132173226
Was machst du auf den Philippinen? Affenfickificki?

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>>132171750
Noice song, check out
this band was sponsored by Goebbels.

https://youtu.be/cLkhRMBOtzk

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>>132172053
>he last nationalist victorious alliance for Europe was in the spanish civil war.

This

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st67ssYh-kk

>Franco thanks Portugal.

Try to not cry

>>132172496
They aren't even protestants or other type of christians. They are mosty agnostic/atheist want secular and anticlerical practices supported by freemasonry (part agnostic/atheist some theist). And are degenerates. Blame French revolution.

>>132173192
>Abderramán III, khalifa of Córdoba
>Caliph
>>132171981
>Giving the power of religion is a mistake.
You have to go back.

>>132157115
Pretty good. He made it to the finish line!

>>132173155
I would have support nazi Germany, what is the problem? death and concentration camps fucked your rep , It was big factories for exterminating people.

I don't know if Franco knew about those camps although tons of republicans died in Mathausen

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>>132173347
Urlaub machen. Ist ganz chillig hier

>>132173379
Glorious

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>>132171889

>>132173428
>They aren't even protestants or other type of christians. They are mosty agnostic/atheist want secular and anticlerical practices supported by freemasonry
Yes, but I meant that they want to follow "secularized Protestants" because protestant countries were the avant garde of those changes and practices. You know, Reformation extended secularism through confiscating catholic property, then those countries quickly became secular and were leading the Enlightenment, Locke, Kant - all protestants. Marxism was created in Germany and so on

>>132173599
Supported

>>132168290
Neither you

>>132173349
>>132173223
>To troops, the Spaniards are a crew of ragamuffins. They regard a rifle as an instrument that should not be cleaned under any pretext. Their sentries exist only in principle. They don't take up their posts, or, if they do take them up, they do so in their sleep. When the Russians arrive, the natives have to wake them up. But the Spaniards have never yielded an inch of ground. One can't imagine more fearless fellows. They scarcely take cover. They flout death. I know, in any case, that our men are always glad to have Spaniards as neighbours in their sector.
>-Hitler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ePPsWQeMXY

>>132173621
Feine Sache

>>132173599
Franco had concentration camps too.

>>132172758
>This is why we need to come up with new ideology
any ideology is bound to fail from the very beginning, so better just sit down and do nothing

Basically catholicism tells the truth about human nature. Anything non-catholic is a lot of fanfaronade, emptiness of ideologies is being replaced by shouting and hyperboles, or the description of the world is reduced to vague words like openness, tolerance etc.

>>132173977
More like hard labour camps in 40s

>>132173977

So did USA

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>>132173977
However not as flamboyant, my great grandfather was shot yet my grandmother has belived for years that he died due to health complications in prision.

>>132174259
Are these people basically the the old Szlachta class?

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>>132157115
Good leader, arriba espana!

>>132175248
who do you mean? Nobles became ravaged by WW2 and they're very different. Some of them assimilated into this bourgeoise, some of them stayed catholic, but they're pretty rich anyway

>>132173807
I meant to reply to this.

People in this class are descendents of the former Szlachta class?

>>132175930
some of them yes, but also townspeople of big cities. Those people emerged during 18. century

I'm Guatemalan. Still happy that we have some German in my family and some other Euro blood, but I don't exactly what. Got light brown skin.