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I am interested in the increase of conspiracy theories popularity.

What does /pol think is the reason?

My bit: in the downfall of civilizations people acquire a paranoic state, which induces the obssesion with grandiose ideas of the themselfs, along with a conspiracy theory to justify their insignificance.
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>>132127811
It's a symptom of prosperity. Fat people that need some soap opera in their lives. It's really that simple, tbqh senpai
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>>132127811

Snapchat and Reddit radicalized adam lanza
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>>132127811
Because the government needs a scapegoat to be able to discredit people who accuse them of criminal acts or immoral behavior.
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>>132127811
The same reason people look for patterns where there are none, in an attempt to make sense of random events. It's an evolutionary trait designed to help humans avoid danger by being able to interpret and predict results of certain actions. It's the root of superstition and religion as well. Attempts to explain the inexplicable. But it also leads to scientific theories and research (knowledge is power).
Of course in internet times you will always have an easier connection to likeminded people, who share the same outlandish ideas to explain some stuff, and it also serves as a tool to transmit your ideas to others who might be convinced. A huge amplifier for all kinds of information, regardless of accuracy.
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>>132127811
your bit is retarded

A few decades ago every second person thought that aliens visit Earth and that there are hidden aliens at Area 52. If something, due to all the social ostracization of conspiracy theorists, their numbers have drastically reduced when compared to those times. The average normie doesn't believe in any conspiracy theories because believing in such brands him as those mentally-unstable low social value people, and he'd do anything to avoid being branded as such and losing most of his friends
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>>132127811
Western world is getting worse everyday and shit just isnt adding up properly
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You're a bluepilled faggot. "Conspiracy" literally means "to be of one spirit" in Latin. The misnomer conspiracy theory was propagated by the CIA during Operation Mockingbird to stop normies asking questions about why all the witnesses in the Clay Shaw/Bertrand trial suddenly die.

Stupid bluepilled normie fuck, i like how you pretended to be smart with that pedestrian, pseudintellectual shit you probably read somwhere, since you're a low info Brazilian.
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>>132127811


There is no longer an honest source where we can get an 'official' interpretation of events that the bulk of the public is willing to trust.

Educators, media outlets, and governments are partisans and activists now. They probably always were, but nowdays they've proven that they are willing to outright lie and actively distort facts to move people in the direction they want to go.

What we have is a situation where amateur Joe blows need to go out into the world and the internet and try to figure out what is going on for themselves. which is good in a way, but also bad because a lot of people are dumb, excitable and have their own biases and they can be misled in a hundred different directions.
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>>132127811
Perhaps you should research conspiracy theories that have been proven to be true.

People's instinct of being untrusting of government, media and citizens that want to expand government is more than justified.

Is it paranoia if it is proven (((they))) really are out to get us?
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>>132127811
I think it's the increase of leaked government emails/documents. You can't really deny that there's a lot of shady shit going on behind the scenes.
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>/pol
fuck off plebbit
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>>132127811
A rise in conspiracy theories is probably the psychological result of the lack of trust people put into their governments, moral leaders, and other figures in authority. The breakdown of the West and the corruption which has run rampant in it's institutions has caused the people to distrust many prominent men who would otherwise be viewed as examplaries to follow in a high trust society. The lechery of presidents, the pedophilia of religious leaders and entertainment figures, the lies and deceits of businessmen and government officials looking to actively harm their clients and constituents has left little room for the public to put trust into figures who would otherwise have been moral figures in a healthy society. The lack of trust in the institutions and the people in charge of them has left a void to be filled by conspiracies and theories, many of them justified considering the abuses the public has suffered in the past. These theories might help explain the immoral behavior of people who would otherwise be their betters in a healthy society.
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>>132127811
>interested in the increase of conspiracy theories
>posts cunts
Are you looking for cuntspiracies?
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>>132128611
This. Also the european union was a grave mistake
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post more of the sloots
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Well, you can call Kalergi plan a meme, but somehow it is in action and Kalergi-designed flag is the EU flag
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Conspiracy theory == speculation.
Humans have been doing that for years.
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>>132127811
>Asks about the increased rate of the spread of information...
>..in the "information age" of the internet
>..on the internet

Brazil everyone.
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>>132131421
spoiler alert: there is no such thing as a "kalergi plan" in the book he wrote (where it is supposedly cited from) and he is merely sharing his thoughts that sooner or later those people from North Africa will want to migrate to Europe

The reason you think that such a thing as a kalergi plan even exists is because of those propaganda images that are being spammed on /pol/ by stormfront to incite you goys into thinking that there is a common enemy that wants to racemix you. Additionally, you will see stuff like "Kalergi is a jewish writer" when he literally doesn't have a drop of jewish in his blood, which is again obvious propaganda and put there to incite hatred in you.

They used to do this stuff more often back in 2012 but there were a lot of people here calling them out on their shit, it's sad that there's almost no one left anymore to do so
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>>132127811
In decaying societies people are inclined to believe in conspiracy theories for one simple reason: it provides an explanation for current woes and blames some alien, secretive group instead of them.
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>>132127811
they are not theories
these conspiracies are real
their increase in popularity is due to us living in the information age

our real enemies are the banker families, government officials, career politicians, the media, religious leaders
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>>132127811
well it depends what kind of person you are the strong make an enemy they can destroy and the weak make up a puppet master so they can justify their own weakness and conspiracy theories also have a seed of truth in them but sadly they get in to one meta-conspiracy one so big so grand that it is imposible to manage let alone plan but conspiracy theories are a human thing i believe
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>>132127811
Its due to the explosion of youtube and similar sites over the past decade
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>>132133950
>our real enemies are the banker families, government officials, career politicians, the media, religious leaders
Would you like them to fall then?
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>>132131679
It's this. However, in our current society, speculating on anything that isn't perpetuated by the mass media or government is fringe. Therefore, you get the demeaning title of conspiracy theorist in order to discredit you.
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Funny how one of the staple conspiracy books was written by a world class historian, academic mentor of 42 US president Bill Clinton.

bet you never heard of it, right?
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My favourite conspiracy theory is that Bob was probably murdered by Chris or Barb, his wife being the bigger enabler in Christoper's life I think she may have done the deed, I think there was foul play behind his death.
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>>132133950
>>132134268
this is one of them meta-conspiracy one to big to be real but has truth to it like i said before its and observed phenomenon
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>>132134268
the scary thing would be if no enemy was there no one in charge no master plan no end game no one at the helm just nothing all and still heading towards the iceberg
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>>132127811
Yes the fact that the term conspiracy theory was coined by the CIA and things like telekinesis are being used in war has got nothing to do with it
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>>132134974
>(((Iceberg)))
Every time
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>>132127811
Are you the guy that was on NPR?
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>>132134749
>>132134974
My point was if he agreed, then he'd actually vote for the New World Order.
But your post could be truth, unfortunately it's more like utopia.
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>>132134268
publically executed, and their family trees torn out by the root
their bloodlines cannot continue, they do not belong on earth
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Conspiracy theories are for morons. No wonder they run rampant here.
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>>132135368
>t. podesta
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>>132135359
Read my post >>132135237
The universe hates empty space. It always fills with something, and what you said is all according to the (((plan)))
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Here's one: Trump can't go full out because the Russian disinformation coup has succeeded. So long as he throttles back enough to be plausible, Russian maintains it's control to destroy America from within - piece by piece, little by little, until 4 years later when America can no longer defend itself and will collapse under it's own hypocrisy and eventual invasion by China and Russia to complete the long con of Communist world domination that's been brewing for 70 years.
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>>132135368

low info cuck
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>>132135696
Russia is heading towards national socialism, not communism and Chinese army is a meme
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>>132135696
>t. CNN
Actually I'd more believe that Trump's gonna be assassinated if he comes out with real change. JFK v2
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>>132135580
I just want to put an end to the endless brainwashing by the media, the pedophilia, the corruption, wars fought for the sake of human sacrifice, satanic rituals like 9/11, evil zionist bankers controlling everything, child rape and torture dungeons ran by politicians protected by triple letter agencies
and the only way to do it, is mass high profile assassinations
we must cut the head off the snake
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>>132135889
That's what Stalin said before the late unpleaseant-ness.
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>>132136042
You can cut the head, yet it'll replenish. There's some other way how to beat it.
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>>132127811

It's a phrase created by the CIA to shame/attack anyone who questions Narratives.


KB Archives: http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/
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>>132135918
well to be fair all U.S presidents since Lincoln had at least some plot to kill them so i would not be such a surprise
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>>132136043
Yeah sauce on that
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>>132135580
i hope there is a plan and an enemy to stop one you can make a strategy against because if there isnt one the we are truly doomed i tend believe its the latter one all great civilizations and empire follow a pattern
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>>132136195
This guy gets it - In response, Reagan dispatched CLA Director William Casey in January 1983 to set up a "public diplomacy' machine that journalists Robert Parry and Peter Kornbluh describe as "America's first peace time propaganda ministry . . . a set of domestic political operations comparable to what the CIA conducts against hostile forces abroad. Only this time they were turned against the three key institutions of American democracy: Congress, the press, and an informed electorate.... Employing the scientific methods of modern public relations and the war-tested techniques of psychological operations, the administration built an unprecedented bureaucracy in the [National Security Council] and the State Department designed to keep the news media in line and to restrict conflicting information from reaching the American public."

As head of the operation, Casey appointed Walter Raymond, Jr. a 20-year veteran of the CIA's clandestine overseas media operations-described by one US government source as the CIA's leading propaganda expert. According to Washington Post editor Ben Bradlee, Raymond's involvement in the campaign symbolized "the wholesale integration of intelligence and PR at the National Security Council." During the Iran/Contra scandal, Congress investigated the Reagan administration's domestic propaganda operations and found that Raymond's name appeared on Oliver North's calendar more than that of any other White House staff member or government employee. A chapter detailing these domestic activities was drafted for the investigating committee's Iran/Contra report, but House and Senate Republicans successfully blocked even a paragraph of the draft from being included in the committee's final report. As a result the CIA's domestic propaganda activities in violation of its charter have received almost no public scrutiny.
http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKraymondW.htm
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>>132136194
that's why I'm advocating to execute not just them, but all of their families and extended families, until not a single drop of their bloodlines remains
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>>132127811
Tell me anon, have you seen your pancreas today?
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>>132136273
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_in_One_Country
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>>132127811
The term "conspiracy theory" was used to get people to not ask questions. Whenever anyone branded something a conspiracy theory, normies took it to mean that it was nonsense paranoia by crazy tin foil hat people. What this of course ignores is that if the theory tests real, there is an actual conspiracy.

Now however we have the internet, which means that information propagates much further and much faster to many more people and it's much harder to censor stuff and control information. Whereas before it was hard to be informed on a topic, it's now possible to see all available information.

Couple all this with the fact that there have been actual conspiracies (chemical attacks being blamed on the wrong side, groups deliberately trying to destabilise the middle east and induce mass immigration into europe, gamegate exposing media collusion to push a political narrative, the DNC primaries being rigged, the seven goddesses in Korea, etc...). People are now starting to realise that conspiracies can actually be real and the internet and a distrust in legacy media are emboldening people to start digging.
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>>132136594
First head for the source, then move to source-dealers.
>>132136426
More faith romanon, in the end there's always a sunshine after the storm.
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>>132136665
You are retarded mate if you can't tell the difference between Marxist socialism and national socialism
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>>132136886
https://media.tenor.com/images/7b0e57e525409dce4609f92b557d47aa/tenor.gif
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I can't tell if those are sex dolls or not...
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>>132134694
Nah dude, if I were Bob, I'd eat myself to death too.
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>>132136929
It's an image board faggot you can post gifs
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>>132127811
These girls are Muslims , by the way
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>>132137166
>>132136933
Kek is here
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>>132136722
Yeah exactly. It's depressing to think how stuff like The Gulf of Tonkin incident and MK Ultra actually happened. And that's just the stuff we know about! The government was willing to do that shit to its own citizens, which just makes you wonder what kind of secret programs/false flag attacks we don't know about. But of course, if you question anything you're a tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist.
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>>132136811
are you aware of fate of empires? i have faith anon but what if its just the natural decay that comes
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>>132137310

>MK Ultra actually happened

It did, but i hope you realise the "declassified" MK ULTRA documents with the all the crazy shit about prositutes dosing unsuspecting johns with LSD were just boilerplates. They were specifically made to be this way, it was a red herring to deter from the real deal - MK SEARCH (pic related)
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>>132137610
Yeah, I am aware. Empires built on bloodshed are always collapsing. It'd be extremely hard to build a kingdom or an empire without spoiling blood. But it's all a cycle, man. We're at the end of another one.
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>>132133030

Because you have literally hundreds of people on Youtube with hundreds of millions of views on Youtube planting the seed of some shadowy global syndicate ruling the world behind closed doors.

It doesn't really matter what you personally think about this, but it's creating the same old pattern you always see : the lower classes believing they have some kind of right dictating the course while having no power to do this and ultimately chimping out.

It happens all the time, and it's always the lower class perceiving elites to be evil because they are unable to reason with the idea that elites exist for a reason and are not just there by luck.
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>>132137898
it is really depressing isnt it? for me at least wish i had not been made of aware of this
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>>132137142

I think he was definitely murdered so that Barb could let Chris live his sloth like life. Or maybe as a lot of people guessed Chris coming out as a tranny to his parents put Bob in the hospital but I think there is a strong chance Barb may have murdered her husband.
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>>132138139
If you focus only on the problem, then yeah, it might be. But it's better to be prepared, so at least you have small chances to react.
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>>132127811
when you catch government and the MSM lying again and again and again, you find yourself questioning everything. People buying into flat earth should be no surprise.
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>>132133030
I actually read his works. There is a desire and a proposed pathway to European mongrelisation and creation of urban rootless mass as the end goal. As far as his Jewish blood goes, well, he has Greek ancestry (surname lol) and Greeks are partially Jewish. So, stormmeme is not really a disinfo, if we speak genetics.

His design is the EU flag, anthem proposed by him was accepted by the EU, his "plan" (real or not) is in action. Need I say more?
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>>132136643
My dog once had pancreatitis.
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>>132138091
I agree with what you say and don't understand how is that in any way related to what I wrote

But on that topic that you began, yes, "elites" are elites for a reason and lower class people should stop chimping out for things they cannot comprehend. The last such chimpout and mass execution of elites lead to worse conditions for a century ahead for the entire lower class population on the East side, and millions dead on the West side sprinkled with worse conditions for a few decades.

The lower classes are like a kid who thinks that he deserves anything he wishes and that his parents are stupid tyrants who don't give it because they're egoists.

>>132138496
>I actually read his works.
No you didn't. You're the exact same lying Russian who keeps spamming about Kalergi and who I btfod some time ago. And I fucking told you, he isn't Greek either so stop spamming that
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>>132138688
Yes, we need more refugees, to Make Europe Kosher Again.
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>>132138091
Now you assume that the ruling class is there thru natural and eugenic selection and with good intentions. Which is rather foolish
>>132138688
Oh, it's the Bulgarian subhuman under the EU flag. Kalergi is a Greek surname. That's a fucking FACT.

You see, my problem wih EU would be still in place, even if it was limited to Europe only. As if Bulgarians and Romanians belong and have a right to reside in Germany or Sweden. Ethnic nationalism is the future. Or we simply go into global Brazil
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Everyone seems to have forgotten that the South Korean president was impeached after she was found to belong to a cabal of female mystics who belong to extremely powerful tycoons in SE Asia who call themselves the eight godesses.
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>>132127811
I think it's because imagination is a double edged sword. With its gift of creativity comes the curse of paranoia.
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>>132133030
thanks anon, now please enlighten me what the palestinian people had to do with the holohoax that they deserve to be exiled from their home
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>>132128611
>he'd do anything to avoid being branded as such and losing most of his friends
From time to time I get carried away drinking with my mates and go on rants about Jews, Satanic pedo blood cults and Nazis in the hollow Earth. If anything its made me more friends.
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>>132127811
>the increase of conspiracy theories popularity
<citation needed>
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>>132138911
None of the elites actually want those refugees in Europe because they cause huge instability and euroscepticism, a case where the cons far outweight the pros of cheap labor. And at that point the EU is with tied hands because they cannot expel them since its against UN laws to do so, and if they ever did, the entire world would turn aggressive against them and ostracize those evil racists (which is exactly what Russia, China and USA are waiting for)

Speaking of plans by the way..

>>132139164
>Kalergi is a Greek surname. That's a fucking FACT.
No its not and I traced his lineage for you. Fuck off and stop spamming it

>>132139553
>now please enlighten me what the palestinian people had to do with the holohoax that they deserve to be exiled from their home
Nothing, I don't really care about neither jews nor muslims. But to answer that question, what did the jews had to do that they deserve to be exiled by the Umayyads from their own lands?
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>>132138688

I quoted the wrong post it was meant as a response to OP. I did mean to respond to your post initially because what you wrote is true indeed but ultimately people on /pol/ do not seek truth but rather to absorb any kind of information that supports the idea of an abstract enemy that does evil for the sake of evil.

And you are correct, radicals who believe in revolutionary politics, whether that is communism or national socialism always degenerate to violence.
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>>132127811
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uixtbITasfI
Now we wait!
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>>132127811
Well I think it's a logical outgrowth of the number of massive ongoing conspiracies against people of European heritage.
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2006 volleyball incident is the ultimate and most devastating redpill
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>>132140038
Bulgarian subhumans with shit genetics like you have no business in Germany, Denmark or Italy. EU allows inferior vermin to move around and destroys the ethnic states. Enough for Ycountryname.XIT
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>>132139164

I make no assumptions. People in positions of power are on average more capable than those who are not, that is the only claim I make.
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>>132140038
>Speaking of plans by the way..
And EU will collapse, Russia will collapse, US will split in two, China will regain some of the territories.
And Poland will be a leader of United Slavic Kingdom.
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>>132140478

Damn the roids are taking a fucking toll on Rich, he aged a decade in a span of a couple of years.
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>>132127811
The alternate media has been hammering this theme for years now.
The mainstream media is failing, so more and more people are turning to alt. media instead. It's simple.
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>>132140558
They are not today, and not in European 'nations' though. Especially in ultra-egalitarian Norway that destroyed all ways of eugenic selection and segregation possible.
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>>132140854

Yeah, "especially" Norway who performs better by any metric than any other nation in Europe is run by complete idiots.

I guess I'll take a lesson about my country from a Slovenian potato farmer instead.
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>>132141333
>Norway who performs better by any metric
By that you mean misrepresented statistic? To graduate from Norwegian """""""university"""""" is a no-brainer even for an idiot.

Your salaries don't really represent the buying power of said money.

Some of your NATIVE countrymen still freeze to death during winter. Some of your NATIVE countrymen experience hunger.

You bought into one of the biggest myth out there.

Also,
>non-Nords can become citizens, their is 'refugee' programme
Yes, Norway most certainly is run by idiots
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>>132140649
>And Poland will be a leader of United Slavic Kingdom.
Not if the subhuman Russians succeed and D&C Europe

If you look through history you will see one very consistent cycle - both Russia and the US start to decay, after which they turn aggressive against Europe and invade it, after which they plunder both the resources and valuable people from it to prevent their own decay for another bunch of decades, after which the same process must be repeated else they start decaying again. It's like a nigger running out of money and having to plunder shops in the neighborhood to survive.

Stop falling for their D&C against the EU. The EU has a lot of issues but all of them can be solved by peaceful reforms instead of -exit chimping out and separatism. If all the anti-EU parties became pro-EU anti-refugee, they'd all win the elections in almost any EU state allowing them to successfully push the reforms through the union and make it a de facto right wing institution. The reason they don't become that and keep remaining anti-EU is because they're controlled D&C by foreign entities on both our sides and are capitalizing on the refugee crisis to get themselves elected (the same refugee crisis which is specifically caused by the pointless wars of both of our rivals - US and Russia, which is also being funded by both of our rivals' elites [Soros funding the refugee shipping routes in Mediterranean])
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>>132129519
This.

A lot of people are quick to discount the idea, but time and time again these "Tin foil" maniacs are actually on to something.
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>>132141333
Have you (or the EU flag fag) considered that the elites have differrent interests that common people? They may be smarter than average, but what exactly is intelligence? It's a capability to deceive (that's also where the "evil Jews" thing comes from. Jews on average have higher IQs, so they're more deceitful). Simply one more argument to keep on guard against them.
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>>132140038
>None of the elites actually want those refugees in Europe
utterly false, shitskins are a godsend for the elites. they need gibs which means the elites can empty state funds to build infrastructure and sell goods to them which are basicly stolen tax money which will never return. they are a great voting block sonce they will always vote for gibs. they lower the overall iq which means less competition. they are also great to use for sob stories to take a jab at any opposition.

>uyyadas
literally who? also why do jews got kicked out over a hundred times? also how do you know ashkenazi jews were from palestine?
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>>132127811
James Webb wrote about this

> Webb calls them "an attempt to show how the occult revival can be used as a key to a crisis which we have still not resolved, and how the occult relates to the better-lit regions of society."
The crisis Webb refers to is one he calls "the crisis of consciousness." Others might call it an "existential crisis" or something of the sort. He refers to the way the democratic, scientific, and industrial revolutions combined to increase the power of individuals and nations while simultaneously destroying the social, religious, and political structures that provided orientation in the 17th and 18th centuries
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>>132141928
BULGARians are not European though. Your country and ethnicity are named after some steppe subhuman, you have the biggest amount of Turks in Europe, you have shitton of gypsies, a lot of "locals" are mixed with gypsies, your subuman diaspora was one of the reasons for Brexit(yes Bulgarians are this unpleasant). Your most famous national is a cigan pederast. Videos related
https://youtube.com/watch?v=P9sQZLtsfp8
https://youtube.com/watch?v=jkDZP5Z1sYI
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>>132141928
If Russia won't backup Poland in the matter of the future's Union, then they'll move towards post-soviet block forgetting their back and getting assraped by China.
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>>132142073
>shitskins are a godsend for the elites
Don't forget the cheap labor. Suddenly you have more people competing for the same jobs, which means lower wages, weakened unions and less competition in business (people working 12 hours a day for starvation wages aren't known for starting businesses).
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>>132128519
/thread
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>>132127811

People are trying to find explanations for how things got so fucked up.
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>>132142013
>Have you (or the EU flag fag) considered that the elites have differrent interests that common people?
They obviously do and has always been the case - ruling class has different objectives when compared to the peasants.

The problem comes when the ruling class' objectives are egoistic and at the expense of the common people, which is not actually the case for the EU. The EU, believe it or not, has prevented multiple attempts from Russia's side at monopolizing energy in both East and West Europe while it has shielded any nation inside from foreign influence (and specifically the US) for as much as it could. If the EU goes down you wont see the separate nations of 1930 living together in independent peace, you will see the exact same thing that happened a few years later - European nations being influenced against eachother at the expense of eachother, but at the benefit of everyone outside of Europe. And both the US and Russia will go through great lengths to make sure that that DOES happen, else the alternative is both of their nations collapsing, because both of them are junkies hooked up on fleeing capital from Europe. They cannot survive without it.
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>>132140558
>People in positions of power are on average more capable than those who are not, that is the only claim I make.
I disagree. Most are there through nepotism. They were literally lucky enough to be born into the right family.
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The media wants you distracted thats why.
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>>132127811
You're all wrong. Distrust of government fuels conspiracy theories. Recently some conspiracy theories have been revealed to be true like mass collection of information, mass incarceration and corporate control. These conspiracy theories have never been challenged as wrong and were just ignored.

Conspiracy theories that dispute science like chemtrails, flat earth, and global warming hoax will always be a sign of major psychological issues.
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>>132142799
If your organisation has a flag DESIGNED BY A FUCKING HAPA, it can't be nationalistic by definition. Germanic Europe doesn't need PIGS and Balkans within the EU to form ethnic super state
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>>132129283
yeah, this. all of it.
i think it's entirely possible that state power is behind the propagation of a lot of conspiracy theory also - if people are sucking back bullshit about lizards and the nwo from rense they're less likely to be politically involved irl.
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>>132127811
9/11
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>>132143100
>Germanic Europe doesn't need PIGS and Balkans within the EU to form ethnic super state
Yes it does

It needed us in WW1, it needed us in WW2 as well. It will always need us. Every nation inside Europe has their own unique benefit and does benefit the union in some way, be it directly through money or in a geopolitical sense
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>>132143418
We literally don't need you. Never did, stable boy. Our nationalist movements are all about remaining a Germanic racial character.
t. Ethnic German
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>>132143397

Now this guy knows what's going on.
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>>132142799
>The problem comes when the ruling class' objectives are egoistic and at the expense of the common people, which is not actually the case for the EU.
Isn't that always the case? Of course they protect their power against foreign countries, which doesn't mean they care about the peasants. If I were a slaveowner living in antebellum South, I would obviously fight against thieves stealing my slaves and other plantators trying to take away my land. However, it doesn't mean that my objectives wouldn't be against the slaves' wellbeing. Unchecked power is always corrupted.

Or shorter: if the ruling class has different objectives to common people, it means the class interests are antagonistic. You paint a picture of divided Europe manipulated by foreign powers - what if "peasants" would actually prefer such a situation to a current one? I certainly would.
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>>132142997
Beautiful post.
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>>132143614
You cant manipulate a nation with ethnicity-based legal system though. Nativism is the only guarantee of independence
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>>132143529
Even the failed empire of the nation you're currently living in needed us (probably the most), so you literally have no say in this topic. As for Germany, if we weren't on their side in both wars they'd get invaded from "Europe's soft underbelly" and the war would've ended in 1942. Stop sucking your own dick for a second and read a book because your nation is not as powerful as you think it is

>>132143614
>what if "peasants" would actually prefer such a situation to a current one? I certainly would.
Are you actually trying to imply that you'd suck American/Russian dick over European dick? woah dude
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Conspiracy theories popularity is primarily tied to the ease of the internet. If you spend enough time on youtube you will see numerous conspiracies that date back decades to even centuries. The term "conspiracy theory" was created by the CIA in 1967 to discredit any unofficial investigations into the Kennedy assassination. Conspiracies have been used to either discredit legitimate theories by using disinformation agents. Or to discredit foreign governments. An example would be the Soviet operation called Infektion. The Soviets paid scientists to create false data to prove that the US created the HIV virus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_INFEKTION

http://www.globalresearch.ca/weaponizing-the-term-conspiracy-theory-disinformation-agents-and-the-cia/5524552

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZMXOQJTQdQ&ab_channel=wearechangect
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>>132142013

On what grounds have you established that elites (the people in power) are malevolent and work to deceit people?

Sure, in some sectors the capability to deceit is powerful and probably a desirable trait, but we are talking about what I assume is the political elite.

Are the politicians behind policies that reduce cancer-related deaths evil and deceitful because they have different politics than you on other areas? They simultaneously want to reduce deaths in their country while working to destroy it?

These are the types of scenarios that revolutionaries on here who want to kill and exterminate people on the left cannot answer because that kind of position requires an assumption that there is malevolence behind their actions.

A simpler explanation is that liberal politics are egalitarian by default, there is no need to create this bogeyman that doesn't exist where the ruling power is evil and corrupt and needs to be purged.
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>>132143976
All of this.

Also if you don't yet believe that the human mind is so fragile and easily manipulatable, I suggest you take a few hours of your day to watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ3RzGoQC4s . It really is a must for everyone browsing /pol/
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>>132143959
We don't need you. Non-Germanics must GTFO from our lands and we care not for the means to achieve that
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>>132144356
You're the autistic Bavarian right?

I hope you realize that posting that shit under a Russian flag automatically invalidates anything you say because you're proving that you're betraying your own beliefs - you went to live in a different country
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>>132143959
>Are you actually trying to imply that you'd suck American/Russian dick over European dick?
If American dick tasted better, why not? As a Polish gopnik, if I do have to suck a dick, does it really matter from which imperial capital it comes from?

>>132143914
Native elites can betray they nations as quick as foreign/alien ones. Poland wasn't led into EU membership by some shadowy cabal of Jewish Illuminati lizard-people, but by ethnic Polish people in power who wanted a quick buck at the expense of their countrymen.
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>>132144584
That's why the said elite must be formed through eugenic process, where chivalry, honesty and self-sacrifice are held to the highest degree. Didn't Czechoslovakia pull off the Beneš decrees and split in two states later, it wouldn't be so peaceful
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>>132144584
>If American dick tasted better, why not? As a Polish gopnik, if I do have to suck a dick, does it really matter from which imperial capital it comes from?
But here's your problem - imperial capital already comes from the EU in great amounts and you don't really suck that much dick for it. If you ever allied with the US how can you be sure that they'd give you anything and wouldn't use you for their own goals like they did Ukraine (and look where Ukraine is at now).

And lastly, you should never forget that the US and UK were the ones who signed you to tyrannical communism with a smile on their face, again, solely for their own benefits. No European in the East should ever forget their false war of "liberation".
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>>132127811
Because it's all real.

Secret societies exist and it's all coming out. There's too much evidence to ignore at this point, even the Bible has made references to secret societies
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>>132143976

>The term "conspiracy theory" was created by the CIA in 1967 to discredit any unofficial investigations into the Kennedy assassination.

Specifically investigation into why a FUCKTON OF WITNESSES SUDDENLY DIED who were supposed to testify in the Clay Shaw trial.
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>>132144294
>On what grounds have you established that elites (the people in power) are malevolent and work to deceit people?
Unchecked power always corrupts. I can easily establish it by looking at actual policies, which mostly aim to reduce freedom of their subjects. Who wants NSA-like mass surveillance? Who wants trade deals? Who wants mass migration? Who wants to regulate and micromanage human behaviour? Easy answer is "the Jews" or some other conspiracy, but it's always the unbridled elites who see their interests as antagonistic to their subjects.

>Are the politicians behind policies that reduce cancer-related deaths evil and deceitful because they have different politics than you on other areas?

Interesting example. These who for example push anti-smoking policies are definitely evil in my book, because they aim to limit human freedom.

>They simultaneously want to reduce deaths in their country while working to destroy it?
I never claimed they want to destroy their countries. What they want is power and wealth at expense of the common people. Again, in my slaveowner example - did the slaveowners want to destroy their plantations? Of course not, they wanted to derive profit and prestige from them. But for black people working on these plantation it didn't particularly matter what are their masters' goals, did it?
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>>132144584

>Native elites can betray they nations as quick as foreign/alien ones. Poland wasn't led into EU membership by some shadowy cabal of Jewish Illuminati lizard-people, but by ethnic Polish people in power who wanted a quick buck at the expense of their countrymen.

This is exactly what I'm talking about, someone outside of any political power claiming that the elites "betrayed" the country. Who exactly did they betray by joining the EU, the 80% who voted Yes in the Polish referendum to join the EU?

So apparently the elites can't do anything right, they are traitors even if they execute the literal will of the people.

>A referendum on joining the European Union was held in Poland on 7 and 8 June 2003.[1] The proposal was approved by 77.6% of voters.
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>>132128611
>The average normie doesn't believe in conspiracy theories

RUSSIA HACKED OUR ELECTIONS THOUGH
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>>132145473

Fuck, now there's a redpill you don't see often.
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>>132144963
>But here's your problem - imperial capital already comes from the EU in great amounts and you don't really suck that much dick for it.
Not that much? So tell me, why does a pack of cigarettes cost more than an hour's labor? Why did several millions of people leave my country? Why the corrupt politicians and professional hustlers are getting rich on EU funds? Why does Poland consistently import more than it exports and even politicians who care can't do anything about it? Why are we signed up to CETA and similar treaty with US didn't already happen only because of Trump (i.e. something out of control of European elites)? Why any cash transaction over 10 000 EUR in value is reported and there are plans to simply ban such transactions? Just a short list off the top of my head.

>>132145509
>the 80% who voted Yes in the Polish referendum to join the EU?
Ever heard of propaganda? They were simply lied to (straight and by omission), if there was another referendum today the results (as suggested by opinion polls) could be different.
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>>132127811
Invest in tinfoil now! INVEST
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>>132146390
>Not that much?
I don't understand your definition of "imperial capital" then. What do you expect? Trillions of dollars being funneled into your economy out of nowhere? Do you honestly think that the US, a nation that is currently propping up two relevant countries would ever gather enough resources to prop yet another one just like that? And especially when it is on the brink of a recession/depression?
And let's leave the US for a second, would ANY other nation at all give you as much as the EU has given you so far?
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>>132127811
is it really so bizarre that people can suspect that government officials can plot against the people for their own gain
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>>132147515
>I don't understand your definition of "imperial capital" then.
By "capital" I meant not capital in economic sense, but as a political center, so my post was about how there's not much difference if I "suck a cock" from Brussels, Washington, Moscow or any other foreign axis of power.
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>>132147515
>And let's leave the US for a second, would ANY other nation at all give you as much as the EU has given you so far?
Maybe, it always depends at the interests at play. Or maybe they would've given us less, but also allowed us to keep more civil liberties. Also, EU funds more often than not are embezzled and utilized to embezzle yet more local funds (I can explain in detail if you want), so again, for common people that was quite a bad deal.
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>>132127811

It's entirely subject in discrediting memetics

Its incredibly potent when you're the only
one with knowledge of trend and slope
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>>132135718
don't forget this
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>>132137815
some of the details revealed were genuinely chilling however, such as:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychic_driving
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>>132154440

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychic_driving

Spooky stories to scare the sheeple. They sucseeded in people not looking in the right direction - MK SEARCH.

https://www.google.com/patents/US6506148
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>>132127811
People are now realizing things aren't how they were sold to them by government and hollywood, so they're wondering what else they've been lied to about.
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