Redpill me on atheism? Is is /pol/ approved?

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NO

No, pol views atheism as a communist attribute. Which is stupid but that's the way it is.

>>132125258

If atheists are right, obama deserved his nobel piece prize

Agnosticism is the redpill for those who refuse to be religious. Atheists need to be gassed.

>>132125258
Hah, no. Atheism is the essence of ideological toxicity.

>>132125258
Atheists are responsible for the degeneracy that has inflicted so many once proud Christian nations in the last hundred years, and therefore are literally responsible for the death of the white race.

Atheists will be the first to go on the day of diet.

/pol/ is full of crypto-kikes who follow a semetic religion
Atheism outright rejects the possibility of any divinity which is just as reaching as believing in a Jewish tribal god
Christianity shouldn't be /pol/ approved except for christian identity RaHoWa types

That picture is incorrect, I can tell you that.

>>132125500
Agnosticism isn't a middle-man/mutually-exclusive and imbeciles like you need to get that through your intellectually-dishonest skulls.

>>132125258
No, because /pol/ is a bunch of dumb niggers who could believe in everything.

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>>132125258
/pol/ is a christian board

>>132125258
For starters, the image is not quite right. It's not the rejection of belief necessarily. Some atheists do in fact reject the idea of god, which is to say they take a strong stance against the existence of god.

But atheism as a category is more broad, more broadly it means the absence of belief.

There's a subtle but important difference there which you'll have to understand to be red pilled on atheism.

>>132125258
No. Only trolls are trying to divide by shoving it into every thread they can.

Fun fact: 99.9% of pol have never read the Bible.

>>132125862
Antitheism and Atheism are two well established different things

Atheism is great. It's the rejection of religious dogma.
Retards then dogmatically follow other ideologies like feminism, communism etc. They give atheists a bad name.

Basically, avoid dogma.

>>132125258
As a guy who believes in God, I find this picture REALLY funny. I can't be the only one. It's staring ya right in the face.

>>132125258
I'm an Atheist, always will be unless I meet Jesus. Been rightwing longer than most here have known what politics is.
IMO its wise for an Atheist to realize that being an Atheist in no way gives you any kind of superiority to anyone else, not in-of-itself and that Religion - amongst other things - is effectively used as guard against degeneracy, and therefor very important for keeping society sustainable and by giving up on Religion, you're opening yourself up to nihilism and degeneracy and if you don't have effective methods to deal w/ them not only are you not superior to the common religious and/or believing man, you're inferior.
I feel like that puts an Atheist in line w/ pol better, but even if it doesn't, who gives a fuck? Gonna get a bunch of anons pick what you get to think?

>>132125258
Yes, Abrahamic cult are Jeiwsh cults.

Christianity is a tool to control goy, made by jews, for morons with a jewish icon

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>>132126232
>le reformation never happened face

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>>132125258
>being atheist when you can literally see God's face in the sky

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<<< typical believers.

>>132126042
Fun fact: catholics are going to hell thanks to pope

>>132126345
This is why no one takes you jewish cultists seriously

Muuh space daddy will punish u !

No he will not.
And you wasted years talking to the toothfairy in your head.

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>>132126477
But didn't Russia went to shit when they rejected the Orthodox Church and the Romanovs?

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TYPICAL BELIEVERS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNw9aQJIc10

>>132125258
A decade ago virtually all of 4chan was atheist. Then atheism became leredditmeme and so 4chan slowly shifted into fundy christian territory, because we're a collection of contrarian children that fap to anime.

There's your goddamn redpill.

>>132126345
i cba to read the words but this has to be a fucking joke right

>>132126885
Russian always was shit.

every thread like this is the same
>Christianity across the board supports diversity, and the importation of Islam, Merkel's party is literally the Christian party
>but it's atheism's fault because ????
You guys need to pull your heads out of your asses and realize that all semitic religions are tools of the jew

>>132127168
Are you by chance a pagan? If so do you think you could recommend any WN pagan books?
I'm curious about their worldview

>>132127311
I am not, sorry can't help you there

>>132125258
Atheism is popular with autistic people and pseudo-intellectuals. The most autistic fat gay retard i ever knew was an atheist because a priest raped him as a child.

>>132125500
You CAN be an agnostic and an atheist at the same time.
Same with agnostic and Christianity.

Agnostic christian says " I dont know if God exists but I believe in him.


Agnostic atheist says "I dont know if God exists but I dont believe in him.

Why should I waste my time with any baseless religion bs when I could learn about applied sciences get a job as an engineer, doctor, scientist etc; better ways to spend your time than on religion.


Church tortured galilao, father of modern physics (whom newton took most of his concepts, galilao was missing the time variable)

pre-torture statements

"I do not feel obliged to believe that same God who endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect had intended for us to forgo their use."
"In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual."

"They know that it is human nature to take up causes whereby a man may oppress his neighbor, no matter how unjustly. ... Hence they have had no trouble in finding men who would preach the damnability and heresy of the new doctrine from the very pulpit..."

"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the Scriptures, but with experiments, and demonstrations."

"To command the professors of astronomy to confute their own observations is to enjoin an impossibility, for it is to command them not to see what they do see, and not to understand what they do understand, and to find what they do not discover."

"It vexes me when they would constrain science by the authority of the Scriptures, and yet do not consider themselves bound to answer reason and experiment."

"It is surely harmful to souls to make it a heresy to believe what is proved."

post torture statements

"Having been admonished by this Holy Office [the Inquisition] entirely to abandon the false opinion that the Sun was the center of the universe and immovable, and that the Earth was not the center of the same and that it moved... I abjure with a sincere heart and unfeigned faith, I curse and detest the said errors and heresies, and generally all and every error and sect contrary to the Holy Catholic Church."
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ATHEISM/inquisition.php

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>>132126945
Ty based leaf. Your insight has been of worth.

>>132125258
Be an athiest in the lab, but be a Christian in your community

>>132125258
No. This traditionalist, nationalist, anti-semitic board insists that you have to worship a anti-traditionalist, open-border jew. Rejecting said jew, or even not worshipping him, means that you somehow are a tool of the jews.

That's not the correct definition of Atheism, it's simply made popular by cowardly Atheists who are unable to defend their own worldview

The correct definition can be found in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy:
"‘Atheism’ means the negation of theism, the denial of the existence of God."

In other words, an Atheist is someone who states that "There is no God", which is a claim to knowledge, which therefore requires proof or evidence. Theists also have this burden of proof.

Agnostics on the other hand, do not have a burden of proof.

So, I'm just an atheist because I think no religion can give me a half-decent explanation for why we are here, where we came from and where we go. I have never really had any big issues with any sort of religion, as long as they try to not shove it down my throat.

So, I don't need to worship any sort of deity, I have more than enough actual problems in my live going. Why would I spend time on an issue that is not really provable nor solvable when I have more pressing matters to attend to? This is why I am now studying in order to find a better paying job. Live my life and then I may ask some of the more rethoric questions.

Does that make me a bad guy /pol?

>>132128055
>wish more people would worship you.
>hear child pray to you.
>send a priest to priest rape him
>child turns into a fat gay retard.
What did God mean by this?

>>132128562
>"There is no God", which is a claim to knowledge, which therefore requires proof or evidence
The lack of evidence is evidence in itself.

I wonder when the Islamic takeover of Europe is complete whether the Muslims will thank their greatest ally, the atheists, before slitting their throats.

>>132129089
No it's not, that's a very fundamental error you made there

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence

>>132125258
I would say there are a lot of atheists on /pol/ and 4chan, but it'll be difficult to notice as christian values/traditional values have been adopted by many /pol/sters.

>>132126945
>still stuck with cuckstianity
hinduism is the future
we are living in the age of kali yuga
hitler was an avatar of vishnu
and many more redpills are awaiting you

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>>132125258
I'm an Atheist who beleives in the cultural values that western christianity has afforded us.

I don't believe there's an actual magic man in the sky who makes shit happen, but i believe that there's a collective mental ideal people have that's worth aiming for, and that is (so far) best described by Christianity.

It doesn't take a fucking rocket scientist to look at the most successful countries on earth / the ones that EVERYONE ELSE wants to migrate to, and then take a look at the general religious majority/foundation of those places, do a simple bit of math and come out with a very easy conclusion that Christian Western Enlightenment nations are the best nations on the face of the planet, and dabbling in the rank turds that other nations/ideologies have to offer is time and time and time and time again nothing but a terrible idea.

Christian Westernism doesn't need to meld with other ideologies (such as the disgusting barbaric cult of Islam), it's done a fantastic job evolving and getting better all by itself, and producing amazing, happy, prosperous societies as a result.

>>132126148
Leaves one groundless. Society cannot function without accepted dogmas, it's about choosing the best ones.

>>132129449
>implying we won't convert to cut off the heads of the people that invited them in, who are primarily Christians

>>132125258
>love thy brothers

yes, atheism is /pol/ approved

>>132128055
The only unironically christian of my age is the autistic

>>132125258
>"Atheism is the rejection of belief that any deities exist"
Wrong.

Correction:
>"Atheists only believe in deities whose existence have been scientifically proven."
So far, that's zero.

>>132129638
Russel teapot

>>132127168
>Lowest support for Christianity in decades, if not centuries
>increasing support for open borders, degeneracy, anti-tradition
Pick both

Jesus Christ you people are retarded. Without metaphysical presuppositions to ground reality in, people become aimless, rootless, and egocentric, resulting in all the degeneracy and decay you see today. Atheism is a part of the problem friendo, not the solution. Wake up.

>>132129638
>Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
That's exactly what it is.
There's no evidence of unicorns so I can confidently say they don't exist (despite that they might even be genetically possible).
Not to mention I could also twist this around and say "Existence of evidence is not evidence of existence".

>>132129736
Is that what Savitri Devi teaches? I've had a couple of her books on backlog

>>132129927
just looking at the roots of old architectures, such as the gothic-style shows what sort of good things christianity has brought to europe. I agree with you, brother.

DEUS LO VULT

>>132130645
So if there is no evidence of a certain planet very far away, then that planet does not actually exist

Right

Got it

Sigh... I'm done here

>>132130908
You don't see Christian niggers or middle easterners do that stuff, anon. Since the common denominator doesn't cause this behavior you need to look at the variables.

>>132128185
Jesus was not for open borders, even now the most strongly religious countries are the ones with the most closed borders.
Jesus also wasn't anti-tradition, he was anti-corrupt Jewish tradition. He was literally the anti-Jew, subverting and making a mockery of their traditions because they had strayed so far from God (which they still have). He was also goading them into crucifying him, that way he could pay the debt owed for all their sins. He showed everyone the error of their ways, then atoned for their errors.
Le Jew meme. Jews hate Christ more than anything, more than Islam and the Nazis. He's boiling alive in a pot of shit and semen forever in the Talmud. If you don't understand that that is just torture porn for a bunch of ass-blasted kikes to jerk off to, you're beyond helping

>>132125258
I approve of atheism but disagree with many atheists. I don't support the retards who sperg out the moment anything religious is mentioned because it goes against their version of atheism.

>>132131010
Wrong.

It's just means there's currently no reason to believe that specific planet is out there.

We do however know planets exist.
Unlike gods and unicorns.

>>132130418
Atheism is the result of the dumbing down of the populace to the point that they are incapable of understanding Rationalism and have to rely on the baby back bitch version called Empiricism--which is in and of itself a religious belief, since it relies on axioms that cannot be questioned without destroying it, like "why should I believe my senses when we know they can be deceived?"

If you return to pure rationalism you will find that there are plenty of legitimate arguments for the existence of a "God," if that's what you want to call it. Brainlets limit themselves to the lowest common denominator of understanding, which is why they are miserable and why our society is collapsing.

I read the bible as a child. Became an atheist thanks to it.

If you want to be a Christian, don't read the bible.

>>132131497
>Jesus was not for open borders
The kingdom of god he shills for accepts everyone.
>He was literally the anti-Jew
You're right. The jews are ethnocentric, he wasn't. That's why the jews will continue to exist into the unforseeable future while people stupid enough to embrace Jesus will become a brown mess.
I'd rather not have this happen.

>>132131010
yes, if there's no evidence of something existing the only logical conclusion is that it does not exist, at the least until the contrary is proven. The ones whom, for some reason, believe that this never-seen planet exists, will have the job of gathering evidence and proving it.

>>132130645
Laughable. Lrn2Rationalism. Do you think Euclid discovered his geometric theorems by physically subdividing strings eternally?

No. Truth can either be derived by reason alone or not at all. Physical evidence is reliant upon inputs the veracity of which you cannot rely.

>>132131010
If there's no evidence of said planet then it MOST LIKELY does not exist.
Let me show you how it works.

Suppose there's a planet orbiting a star 100ly away which is about the size of earth which gives you superpowers if you believe it exists.

>there's a planet orbiting a star 100 light years away
Okay I don't know if it exists but that sounds probable.

>which is about the size of earth
That's kind of specific for a planet we have never seen before.
I'm getting incredulous.

>which gives you superpowers if you believe it exists
Nah I don't think this planet is real.

>>132131683
Seems like you're still a child.

>>132126170
This. A lot of idiots think they are smart because they don't believe in a deity and then go on and start believing any bullshit ideology that comes in.

>>132131381
If you give a chimpanzee an iPhone it's not going to order itself a pizza and listen to Nietzche on audiobook whilst it waits.

>>132131661
>"why should I believe my senses when we know they can be deceived?"
What other alternative is there?

I remember a time when most of 4chan were Atheists but then SJW and White Nights ruined Atheism.

I'm still Atheist, but I'm willing to convert to Kekism because I'll be damned if everything is just a coincidence at this point.

>>132131661
>plenty of legitimate arguments for the existence of a "God,"
Ok, give one, Anon.

And in case you manage to convince us, where's your Nobel price for making the discovery of the millennium?

>>132132142
Yes, that was my point. It's not Christianity doing these things but Europeans.

Atheism is as dumb as religious extremism; just replace violence with smug.

The outright rejection of ancient myths and creation stories is among the most foolish decisions an individual could make.

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>>132126477
Nearly half of all LGBT adults are atheist, compared to 4% of the general population. Those who are religious also attend services less often and attach less importance to their faith than other people.
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/06/13/a-survey-of-lgbt-americans/7/

>>132132313
It's both.

Does smith forge the sword or the hammer?

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>>132125258

Idk.... it lead to this: http://www jewsnews co.il/2014/11/17/feminists-shove-crucifixes-up-their-anuses-to-express-their-hatred-toward-g-d.html

Make your own mind anon.

>>132132329
>The outright rejection of ancient myths and creation stories is among the most foolish decisions an individual could make.

xD

Well I am an atheist. But I'm against LGBT, muslims etc etc...

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>>132125500

>>132132581
>It's both.
Looking at how Europeans were building neat stuff without Christianity, that just seems like appropriating something from the superior people because it's the only way for you to provide something that's not shit. Which is pretty dishonest, but I guess to be expected from spiritual semites.

>>132125500
this. atheists are too subversive and in general are pussies.

>>132132753
>gnostic atheist
So, these fellaz believe there's proof for something that doesn't exist?
wtf

>>132132584
No anon, feminism lead to that.

>>132132621
Spiritual texts, like the bible, are effectively a mapping of the human psyche; a plethora of metaphor that explains the journey of the species into self consciousness; and the origin of the metaphors, or the stories, are ancient far beyond the popular religious texts of today.

Atheism is a shallow conclusion for shallow minds which can't comprehend "God" beyond a bearded ghost in space.

>>132132329
>The outright rejection of ancient myths and creation stories is among the most foolish decisions an individual could make.
lol wat?

>>132132840
I would agree with that.

>subversive
They tend to question and critique ideas.

>pussies
They're usually not prepared to blindly sacrifice themselves for supernatural causes.

>>132132840
>i lost an argument so ur subversive
Lmao

>>132133131
If you believe the creation stories, like the one found in the bible, is at odds with scientific fact, such as evolution, then you've horribly misunderstood the text.

>>132132834
They were, yes, and Science is the primary entity of success here, more than Christianity if you want to analyse raw technological prosperity.

And yet, places like China, Japan and Russia still fall behind.

>>132133080
>a mapping of the human psyche
Namely, schizophrenia.

>Atheism is a shallow conclusion for shallow minds which can't comprehend "God"
A) I can't explain that, therefore GOD!
B) I can't explain that, therefore I'll keep looking for logical explanations.

Which one looks more shallow to you, Anon?

>>132133080
We don't need to believe in something that doesn't have evidence of it's existence.
Also, shallow minds unable to comprehend something?? Yeah, that sounds like creationists, flat-earthers and other retards stemming from religious beliefs.
You can take moral values from the Bible, but believing that the entity it describes exists, is just pointless.

>>132133341
If you take the bible literally, then yes, it's at odds.

If you don't take it literally, then what is the point?

>>132133341
Tell that to the creatards.

>>132126606
Funnier fact: many catholics don't even like this pope.

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>>132133350
>And yet, places like China, Japan and Russia still fall behind.
Come on, anon.

>>132133222
lost what argument?
kill yourself commie

>>132133146
>They're usually not prepared to blindly sacrifice themselves for supernatural causes.
im not talking about dying for a religion, but i dont think most of them will die for any of their values.

>>132126606
>>132133671
Funnest fact: There is no reason to believe hell exists!

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>>132133671
>Funnier fact: many catholics don't even like this pope.

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>>132133671
this
francis needs to go. he is worse than the nazi pope.

>>132133380
In typical atheist fashion, you've truncated a quote to manufacture something that would allow you to make a point.

Your mind is narrow. Your understanding of the evolution of the human mind is lacking.

Is the bible, and other collections of spiritual texts, stories rather than historical documents? Yes. Does that make them any less valid? No.

There is still much unexplained about our minds; and that is a reference to the literal organ we call the brain. Spiritual texts are concise metaphors, as your would expect from stories which have been retold across hundreds of civilizations and cultures throughout the history of our species. These metaphors explain us. God is us.

>>132125258
Atheists argue that you can't get something from nothing, therefore there can't be a God. Atheists also believe the universe created itself. They are pathologically dogmatic to the point of being mentally ill.

>>132130305
Same

>>132128125
>you can be agnostic and athiest while still finding yourself in threads pondering the meaning of God for others as time goes by.

just give it time.

it's not because some stupid group claim themselves atheists and do shit that all atheists are like said group. i do have to agree that most active people in the atheist community are stupid child-like people, who don't believe in god because they have some sort of trauma with a bad connection with religion or because they want to seem smart. fuck those guys. they aren't real atheists, those are the sort of "atheists" whom pray for god when things get difficult and use emotions rather than logic to judge their actions and life choices. like how stupid feminists act. they are fake.

>>132130418
>Scientifically prove God
>Science being the study of the natural world, the universe
>God being necessarily far greater than the universe
>this means that the study of science will never be able to get "proof" of God, as God is greater ontologically than the universe
>this somehow invalidates God
People like you are fools. Scientific proof is not the only valid form of proof. Science is necessarily constrained by criteria such as time, space, reproducibility, etc. You can reason to God, i.e. produce logical proofs for the existence of God, but atheists have this fixation upon scientific proof, completely missing the free admission that that won't work. Atheists are like the Russian cosmonaut that reported back from space "I don't see God up here", completely missing the point of the concept of God.

tl;dr you don't believe in God because you fundamentally don't understand the concept of God

>>132133789
It's very nice. Hey, i'm not saying they haven't got anything.

But compared to the Sistine Chapel? come on now.

They're worthy competitors, no doubt, and it's not like they're even close to being africa-tier.

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>>132128143
you realize you're taking the vatican's word on this right?

learn to critique historical documentation.

>>132133941
>Atheists argue that you can't get something from nothing, therefore there can't be a God.
Source

>>132133896
Dabbleing in burgers on july 4th btw

>>132133941
Nice straw man.
>theists actually believe that Noah loaded two of every animal into a boat he made. They pathologically insane.

>>132133834
>i dont think most of them will die for any of their values
I'll take that as an assumption, rather than fact, but yes, I think religious people "benefit from the quality" to sacrifice themselves for reasons that are beyond the comprehension of people who don't share that person's believes.

For instance, Mohamed Atta probably would not have stepped on board if he didn't believe in the Islamic teachings.

>>132134190
bow for truth

>>132129639
Most of 4chan is atheist/agnostic, but lots of us on /pol/ like to larp as Christians because "muh crusades".

>>132133941
First of all, "universe created itself" and "universe started existing" are two things with different meaning.
Secondly, that something can't be created from nothing is a rule of our universe. Before the existence of our universe such rule, along with time and space and others, didn't exist.

>>132125828
>Jesus
>wearing fancy golden robes
Anon, I...

>>132133636
>>132133420
I would never claim that atheism is the direction that these texts can be misunderstood.

>>132133615
>if you don't take the bible literally, then what's the point

The point is that the bible, and other myths, are maps which describe the development of our psyche; and they demonstrate how we became a species so far beyond apes. Genesis is effective describing when humans became aware of their own mortality.

>>132125426
I get it. Solid kek.

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>>132134017
>But compared to the Sistine Chapel?
Built by Europeans. You're not seeing anything of the sort made by shitskin Christians. Accrediting Christianity for it is dishonest. Not that it'd even matter, or do you want to talk about how great Islam is next, pic related?

>>132133979
>You can reason to God, i.e. produce logical proofs for the existence of God
Oh really anon?? So, can God create a boulder so heavy, that he can't lift it?? This question itself invalidates God pretty nicely.

>>132125426
I want to get this but I don't.

>>132134017
dude china has pyramids and ancient shit that has far greater value than anything Europe could offer hence the Opium Wars.

consider this is comparing preferred aesthetic.
your bias is towards your own people.

>>132125258
Dude, it's the topmost writing on /Pol. No "Redpill me on...". This is some /b/ shit

>athiest
>race realist
>fascist
>anti-degeneracy
>ethno-nationalist
>pan-european nationalist (aka white nationalist but for all Europeans)
>against dune coon religions plaguing our youth

Don't you faggots see? Christians are some of the biggest advocates for racial mixing. It's also anti-nation because it goes into detail about how we're all sons of god and we should come together which is the polar opposite to any nationalist belief.

>>132133934
t. Jordan B. Peterson.

You are mostly correct about how the meaning of religious texts is what is important, not the historicity, and how the patterns contained within them explain jumps in the development of human consciousness. However, you are incorrect in jumping to the conclusion that God is us. God exists independently of us, we exist dependently through him. Interestingly, man is seen as an image of God, so it stands to reason any religious story telling of God will have insights into the mind of man as well

>>132133916
you make it sound as though having a pope who was literally in the hitler youth a bad thing

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>>132133979
>you don't believe in God because you fundamentally don't understand the concept of God
Oh, and you do?
Why?
Because a dusty bundle of fairy tales written by a mentally ill desert dwelling hippie told you?

You're basically saying "It's completely beyond your comprehension, as it is a supernatural entity that lives beyond the laws of our universe. But I understand. It's quite simple actually!"

>>132135097
>However, you are incorrect in jumping to the conclusion that God is us
>Interestingly, man is seen as an image of God

You seem confused.

God is the utmost height of understanding man as God created man. Were man to reach that utmost height of understanding themselves, then they too would be God; then they too could create man.

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Atheists are niggardly with their money.

>>132133941
Wrong. I'm an agnostic atheist, and I believe that the lack of proof dictates that god isn't worth believing in. I do believe that the universe must have been by some event that is beyond our knowledge, but there's no logical reason to believe that an all powerful deity is responsible. It's even more ridiculous to believe that this same deity managed to give us a proper way of life through a book that contains numerous political biases, scientific inaccuracies, and was written hundreds of years after the events it describes "happened".

>>132135408
Stop feeding Africa, Christcucks

Everything about how the universe began is 100% theory with no solid evidence either way. That leads to all these different belief systems.

That being said, atheism gets a bad reputation on this board not because it's invalid but because of all the edgy, angry fedoralords associated with it in the online community. If atheism had better representatives it would probably not be so easy to laugh off on here.

>>132135100
lol not for a polish catholic

>>132130542
>hurf durf look how fucking stupid I am
think about what you just said for one second, atheism is the effect, not the cause
modern Christianity is an engine for degeneracy because it literally teaches submission to ones enemies and all those assertions about 'hurr atheists are aimless' and such is just that, pure conjecture
it's you who seems to not be grounded in reality

>>132125258
How about thinking for yourself & stop trying to gain approval from a bunch of neo nazi autists on the internet.

>>132135408
greedy commies BTFO

>>132135408
>tfw your "charities" fund child diddlers and their golden palaces
Atheists' money fund real work.

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>>132125258
Atheism is for people to feel they're popular, and not bedroom dweller losers with the unoriginal opinion that there is no god. They're basically mentally retarded religious people who actually can't stop thinkng about god. In most cases the self called atheist are probably spoiled adults who get everything they want, and pretentiously believe they've seen enough to equate a validation of their bedroom wide spectrum baseb opinion. What did you expect from someone who is a grown adult that still has mommy and daddy take take care of everything?

>>132134628
No, again you don't understand the concept of God.
He could not create a bould so heavy he couldn't lift it, as that would be a logical contradiction. God cannot make untrue things true: he himself is logic and therefore necessarily cannot make locically contradictory things happen. Similarly he cannot make a woman who has slept with a man back into a virgin, and he cannot make 2+2=5. His omnipotence is constrained by his own logic

>>132135596
>he posts this on a board for crusade LARPing NEETs

>>132135596
all those words and not a single argument

>>132134628

>Be god
>Create boulder
>Turn in to human
>limit your power as a human
>You now have a boulder god cannot lift

>>132135786
are trying to actually communicate? because that acronym slang is pathetic in just the duration one sentence. try using words dude. once again bedroom dweller bullshit.

>>132135990
hi welcome to /pol/, first day?

>>132135808
no theres an argument. maybe i left out to get a life.

Daily reminder that atheism is the worship of oneself; it is the religion of selfishness, hedonism, and arrogance.

>>132135759
Anon, it just seems like you are idolising him, by making assertions about what he can or can't do, just so that you can logically justify him. And also justifying that his existence doesn't need to have empirical evidence.
With such thinking, I can make my own imaginary friend true.

>>132136197
thanks no i just manage to stay away from getting on the Lulz choppers

>>132135854
But if turned himself human, it wasn't God who can't lift it, but a human who can't lift it.

>>132136291
once again needs to feel popular, and bedroom dweller is action. Intellect is the corrrect word jack

>>132135590
No, atheists' money stays in their wallets. You can tell a lot about someone's morals by what they do with their money and their manhood, and atheists keep their money to themselves and put their manhood in other men.
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/06/13/a-survey-of-lgbt-americans/7/

>>132135423
Wrong. You're a flagot.

>>132134059
>>132134190
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>>132135423
There seems to be a level of abstraction you're not thinking on.

>>132136291
That's funny, because many religious people are religious out of fear of their insignificance, but sure atheism is glorification of humans.

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>>132135352
>understanding themselves, then they too would be God; then they too could create man

Even better... Man created God.

>>132135504
Incorrect. Jewish subversion (such as atheism and the corruption of tradition Christianity) within Christian culture is what produces the degeneracy we see today.
If you can't see that you are being misled, you are a fool.

>>132125258
Atheism is like /pol/, a bunch of hiveminded idiots who are the butt of the joke to every one on separate boards.

>>132136640
>needs abstraction to help him in his mental gymnastics justification of the existence of God
Remind me again why not to take people like you seriously.

>>132125500
ITT: We dont understand atheism
or make strawmans.

>>132136439

Who is jesus christ ?

>27Then Jesus said to Thomas, “Put your finger here and look at My hands. Reach out your hand and put it into My side. Stop doubting and believe.” 28Thomas replied, “My Lord and my God!”

god can limit his power in all forms he does not even need to be human

>>132126945
Basically this.

I think in reality most of 4chan is still atheist, or apethetic agnostic atheist. But at the moment the christfags are the loudest on /pol/. Christianity also fits nicsly into the conservative values of of the "redpilled" fags

>is X redpilled?
>is X pol-approved?
>151 replies
Learn how this site works or get out, newfags.

>>132136749
People laugh at us? :(

>>132136866
But the question was specifically about a boulder GOD can't lift. Making himself something other than God, so that he couldn't lift it means that he is incapable of creating such boulder.

>>132134700
Of course they will, Europe is relatively young on the world's stage as far as civilizations go; in the times that almost everyone else was working stone, either for monuments or actual abodes, europeans were dwelling in mud huts. But just because the dinosaurs ruled at one point doesn't mean they rule forever.

If china's pyramids are of such great value, it's due to historical human context, not actual architectural aesthetic or comparable mathematical understanding to that of enlightenment era architecture. It's value lies primarily in the capacity to go "wow, look at that, didn't our ancient ancestors build some interesting stuff".
But a pyramid is little more than a stack of blocks in an ever decreasing radius, and as analysis of the pyramids at Giza show, it's only the outermost blocks that recieve special precision treatment.

>>132134564
You could argue the inspiration for that, was a woman. Not an unworthy form of worship at all, but most Islamic architecture is literally just stolen Christian architecture.

If we're playing the 'i have one example of X, therefore your 10 examples of X are equal to my 1' game, then yes, it's all equal.

But we're not playing that game, are we?

>>132125258
>Redpill me on atheism?
The image you posted sums up what atheism is. Everything else after that becomes personal opinion which can be discarded.

>>132136317
Nope, just going through the logically necessary attributes of God. None of these are new, this is some Augustine, Aquinas, and Anselm shit. It would help if you knew what you were talking about before arguing against it.

>>132136867

The rest of 4 chan is degenerate , i used to be a /b/ tard then when i found the lord i could still use 4chan with /pol/

>>132125258
Logically speaking - you need to be agnostic as you can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God.

>>132136521
>but most Islamic architecture is literally just stolen Christian architecture.
And Christian architecture is just stolen Roman and Greek architecture, which brings me back to my original point: Christianity didn't give us these things.

>>132136777
You're good at projecting. Your meme terms won't help you in the afterlife.

>>132137207
>logically necessary attributes
That can be used to justify existence of anything you can think of. That's why the need for evidence exists.

>>132125398
/pol/ is 100% athiest board

>>132136689
Yes.

Man created God as the ideal for themselves. Then man killed God, killing ideals and bringing forth the downfall we're currently seeing in western society.

>>132137039

There is probably a fallacy in your thinking , like god cannot make it dark and light at the same time, its illogical

>>132137464
Oh what's that?? Trying to """""scare""""" me with my punishment in afterlife, in which I don't believe??

>>132137563
>dude if you let yourself be slaughtered you win lmao
Pretty shitty ideal if you ask me.

>>132137672
That's not logical fallacy. That's exactly the point. Something that is supposed to be above the universe and is omnipotent, can't do something. Well in that case, he isn't omnipotent, is he??

>>132137687
I don't believe or not believe in a punitive God. What I do believe is that reality could be anything.

>>132134373
No, nihil fit ex nihilo is a logical rule that transcends our specific universe. 2+2=4 whether or not we are here to understand it. As such, that rule still applies before the universe. Which means the purely atheistic Big Bang ex nihilo is impossible.

>>132136521
>atheist = homosexual
Retard detected. But of course all christcucks are retards.

>>132137283
No proof god is real though

>>132137768
What in the fuck are talking about?

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>>132136851
This.
everything christcucks know about atheism is from memes.

>>132137843
Again, logical contradictions. That does not infringe upon omnipotence. He can do anything in any possible situation. That is still limited by the possibility of the situation. God you're retarded

>>132137872
You might have a point there, but how exactly does that make the Big bang impossible?? For all we know, before the universe there might existed something else that then transfromed through Big Bang in the universe and such possibility still doesn't require an entity to do it.

I would argue it's both, it just depends on how you project your atheism.

Don't be a fedora fag who goes and argues with people who believe in religion, your just being an ass.

If you don't wanna believe in a higher power that is completely fine, and you can express it if people ask you about it. Just don't be an ass about it, obviously you have a reason to be Atheist so properly explain why.

I'm in a weird spot where I don't believe any spoopy mystical shit, religious stuff included.
But watching Jordan Peterson has given me a lot of respect for our religions and their stories, and showed me the importance of the idea of God as representation of an objective morality. Objective morality is the antithesis of destructive postmodernism, so I guess I'm a religious atheist or something like that.

>>132138092
No, omnipotence means having unlimited power. No limitations.

>>132136633
I only wear my Ancap flag for fun, there's no reason to be ashamed of being a burger.

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>>132138289
i would love to stop arguing but christcucks seem to think its their right to stop me at bus stops and ring my doorbell to shove their religion down my throat. Atheists dont do that.

>>132125258
How is that definition any different from agnosticism?

>>132136640
If you take the Bible literally, then you're fundamentally denying science.
If you don't take it literally, then what's the point? You can still believe in European values without being Christian.

>>132138445
It's those peoples fault then, you aren't being an ass if they start the dialog. You are merely just defending you viewpoint.

>>132137559
Hi, Reddit.

>>132131683
Same

>>132125258
it's trash

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>>132125258

Those who are Atheist always seem to have something "missing".

It's fine to be one, but just because you think Higher Powers don't exist, doesn't mean you are better then those who think they do exist.

Archives: http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/

>>132125258
It is a delusion that everything came from nothing

>>132132282
It's a test you dirty heathen, y-you'll be sorry when Jesus comes and whoops your ass

>>132137989
That the ideal Christianity provides isn't a good idea for white people on the brink of extermination to adopt.

>>132138473

"do deities exist?"

"yes!" (theist)
"no!" (atheist)
"its impossible to know" (agnostic)

>>132138715
yeah thanks for understanding. i would really appreciate it if religious ppl stop pushing their ideas into government like mandatory school prayer, religious monuments on public lands, tax exemptions for churches, etc. The separation of church and state protects everyone. We dont want muslim law so we sure as hell dont want christian laws either.

>>132137910
Yet half of all fags identify as followers of atheism. It's their most preferred belief system. This is damning to atheists in general. Your belief system is the most accommodating of homosexuality.

>>132138989
Ah yes the autistic agnostic who doesn't believe in anything and ends up in a perpetual state of crippling nihilism. Real healthy

>>132138989
the thing about being an agnostic is that it implies a 50% equal probability between "God exists" and "God does not exist", when thats obviously false.
Most atheists call themselves atheists but are actually agnostic. I dont know for sure but the possibility of a deity, much less the christian one, existing is bordering on zero.

>>132139175
>Yet half of all fags identify as followers of atheism. It's their most preferred belief system.
What's the other half?

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>>132125258
Daily reminder that /pol/ is not christian bord becouse we aren't retards, a lot of christucks came here becouse of our anti gay stands and nationalism, only becouse we aprove that dosen't mean that we are your frends faggs!
Pic related sciantific comunity has 850% incarsae in atheists related to general population.CHRITKEKS BTFO!

>>132125500

Gnosticism has to do with knowlege, you retarded fuck.
Theism has to do with belief.

An agnostic doesn't KNOW if God exists or not.
An atheist doesn't BELIEVE in any gods.

In reality, everyone is agnostic, as nobody really knows one way or the other. Some choose to believe and are theist. Other choose not to believe and are atheist.

>>132139175
of course it is. Atheism is an inclusive and accommodating ideology. Gay christians/muslims are not likely to admit they exist. Its dangerous for them. Still doesnt mean all atheists are gay.

>>132139403
>Jewish 2 becomes 8

Oy vey you can't be a scientist unless you're an atheist goy

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>>132125258
Yes.

>>132139428
i agree with everything you said, except the "choosing to believe" part, i dont think you are able to choose what you believe without some sort of mental illness, you have to be convinced by evidence or have a good reason.

>>132139552
Jews score on average 110 IQ how else did you except things would turn out fagg?Of corse jews are smart, how else do you except them to controll evererything if they would be stupid?

>>132138940
The morals born from Christianity include self preservation.

>>132139577
Epicurean paradox fails at premise that god is not all good because it is applying simplistic human notions of goodness to an infinitely perfect being. Free will is more important than forcing everyone to be good in gods eyes

>>132139310
How could you possibly know that?

>>132139182
Never encountered an agnostic nihilist, only atheist nihilists desu.

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Buddhism is the best!

>>132139921
Didn't save you from japs though.

>>132139733
>main character: lets himself be killed
>earliest followers: let themselves be killed
uh huh

Come on, buddy. When the whole deal of your cult is going to heaven then it's only logical to have people stop giving a shit about this worldy stuff.

>>132135100
this

we were happy and we didn't know

Surely the church is doing a good job in Finland supporting gay pride and coming to schools to preach acceptance and multiculturalism.

Forcing everyone to have free will is damning them to suffer. Looks evil to me.

>>132139881
Probably because most people who claim they are agnostics are liars and just choose to remain ignorant on certain topics whilst having faith based belief systems on others

>>132138855
I don't believe I'm better; neither do most atheists and christians. However, a healthy amount of debate is always good for joggin' the noggin'.

>>132138386
With no context, sure it can. But in a theological context, it has always implied limitations, since Augustine. Omnipotence means all powerful in all possible situations theologically.

>>132139881
>How could you possibly know that?
the god as described in the bible does not hold up to scrutiny. Also assuming each branch, cult, schism, religion are equally likely, the odds of one particular deity being the "right" one is minute.

>>132138855
I only think I am better than those who have their beliefs in such things so strong and dogmatic, that they ignore observed reality and scientific achievements. That's the extent of it. And it is only because such people halt progress.

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>atheism
pushed by Jews, Communists, Leftists, etc. Some of them mean well, but they are still in a way killing the culture of whatever nation they inhabit. No one is, in this day and age, will seriously convert to being a pagan because we know shit like there isn't a giant snake around the world. I don't ask for blind faith for atheists, I just want them to shut the fuck up. If you don't want to believe that shit, fine, just don't tell others what to think unless you have irrefutable proof. Atheists are more susceptible to becoming nihilists, and nihilists ruin society.
>Christianity
Catholicism used to be independent, now it is controlled by Jews. Jews encourage the death of religion since it's a part of a nations culture and values. There are still sects of Christianity that are well and good, I'm just hoping that Catholics will eventually get their shit together.

>>132140448
The meaning of the word says no limitations at all. If there are limitations, than you can't call it omnipotence, can you?? Why not just claim that God is extremely powerful, why go to the lengths of claiming that he is something that can't be possible at all??

>>132139385
In America, they are non practicing Christians, Agnostics in all but name.

>>132139855
Circular reasoning, you fail to convince that there is any supreme being.

>>132138196
That is a possibility, but that results in proving nothing, only postponing the question. Instead of what caused the Big Bang now we're just asking what caused the previous event and so on forever, it's an infinite regress, which is a logical impossibility. This necessitates an uncaused cause, a prime mover, something whose reason for being is entirely self-contained, non-contingent. And this everyone calls God.

>>132140625
>Some of them mean well, but they are still in a way killing the culture of whatever nation they inhabit.
Christians can't complain about this without being hypocrites.

>>132140821
>In America, they are Christians
Figures.

I wonder, why do you care so much about 4% of your population when your country's 56% white and contains more jews than Israel who control your banks, media, courts, politics and education? It seems to me like you have wrong priorities.

>>132141002
>we don't know or understand what happened, therefore God did it!

God, Christians are almost as insufferable as stormtards, and only marginally smarter

>>132125258
>Is is /pol/ approved?
Not by man of us.

Here's a little fact that always infuriates atheists: Atheism IS a religion.

Oh they'll post that stupid meme about "atheism is to religion as bald is to hair color," but reality is that humans cannot know if there is or isn't a God. So the neutral position is "I don't know."

Atheists claim to know. (AGNOSTICS are the ones who maintain the neutral position.) Therefore atheists are holding a RELIGIOUS BELIEF.

Be careful of people with a religious belief they hold so zealously that they pretend it isn't even a belief.

>>132136742
Too bad our society is actually more prosperous today than it was ever before.

>muh kike conspiracy

>>132140760
Because it is still omnipotence you clown. Infinitely powerful in all possible situations is omnipotence. This is like arguing over infinity. There are smaller and larger infinities, yet all are infinite. Same with omnipotence, as it an an infinite quality.

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Modern atheism, that is, atheism that is a product of the enlightenment, is just a retardation of theistic presuppositions, which took 2000 years of development by Christian philosophers and theologians, such as St Gregory the Theologian's view of helping the poor and children, and into Thomas Aquinas's philosophy of natural theology, which produced human rights, based on the imagi dei. This led to things such as the Magna Carta. Continue down to our time, and our reliance on, and continual pushing forward pf human rights. One can not have human rights without God, since God created us all equal via the imago dei.

This is why Nietzsche hated liberal atheism, because liberalism relies on human rights, and without God there ate no rights. He believed in individualism, and those who could self will themselves to the front (the ubermensch). Likewise, to say that there is no God, yet rely on science is circular, since science requires the beliefs of unproval things in order to do it, such as the law of identity, numbers, forms and universals.

The only way around this is to be some sort of nominalist fag, which has led to a ton of fag problems in the philosophy of science.

>>132141024
In what way? Rome spread Christianity to barbarians. Are you going to argue that Rome wasn't western now? Or that people without civilization were a part of Western Civilization?

>>132139175
>followers of atheism

Just how dense are you?

>>132141002
But if the notion that something can't come out of nothing exists outside of the universe, it has to apply to God too. So he was either created by something, or he is eternal. But if infinite succession of events is impossible, even if it was one or two cycling events, wouldn't that make God being eternal also obsolete?? Which means that something had to create him and that something had to be created etc...

And can really such being exist, if you have to make every possible logical exception and make his existence self-explained in order to make his existence possible??

>>132141467
Again, omnipotence means no limitations. If he is all powerful in all possible situations, that places limitations on his power, thus not being it actually omnipotence.
And also, there is a difference between infinity and being to do everything.

>>132141345
No one is saying that. One can make logical inferences based on the available information. A material universe necessitates a cause. This cause can either be another material cause, leading to either an infinite regress or circular causation, or it can be immaterial, leading to the conclusion that the immaterial thing must be incredibly powerful, outside of time and space, eternal, infinite. And this everyone understands to be God.

>>132141846
>wouldn't that make God being eternal also obsolete?
No. The whole point is that he is that only thing that is, that's why he's God.

>>132141349
That's a specific subset of the atheist community, the Reddit neckbeard /rel/tards stereotypize as every atheist ever.

The question of existence of God is a position of belief.

>>132142281
And who created god?

>>132141611
Your explanation is quite confusing, religion has only been used to control the masses under the disguise of purity and classing the freethinkers as sinners.

>>132142353
But once again, it is making every possible excuse and exception, just so that his existence can be argued. An oversimplified version being "God exists because God". I don't know about you, but that makes Occam's razor pointless, doesn't it??

>>132140049
Jesus fucking christ...

Are you going to infer the stories literally or not? Swapping between metaphorical interpretation and literal interpretation based on what best suits whatever point you'd like to make just makes you look dumb.

The key tenet of christianity is living a good life, not forsaking it to expedite your own death because life has no inherent higher purpose. This is important for a species that has become aware of its own mortality.

You're also failing to grasp what I'm saying as you've gone and described Jesus as the "mian character" of the bible. The main character of the bible is the reader, as the text is a reflection of man. The story of Jesus is just one saga; a saga about the sacrifice involved to deliver children into the same higher state of enlightenment (through raising them properly). Jesus sacrificed himself to allow mankind to stand with God; God being the ideal for mankind.

>>132141846
>>132141846
God would necessarily be eternal, though a better way of saying it would be timeless, outside of time. God isn't an infinite regress because there is no causation, he one being and is self-caused. And these aren't mental gymnastics to justify God. God is the simplest, logical, internally consistent explanation for life, the universe, existence, everything.

>>132125258
Do you actually believe a magical invisible ghost created the world?
There is no logic in these posts, only fallaies and fancy puns ("the world necessitates a cause" or whatever)

>>132141217
The 4% atheists are the ones trying to turn our nation away from God. They are the ones trying to remove God from our schools, our government, our media, and our public life. Why do you want (them) to succeed?

>>132125545
>Atheism is the essence of ideological toxicity.
Atheism has nothing to do with ideology. You must be thinking of a religion, like Islam.

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It's wrong on many levels. Research it and think about the consequences of what we have been told

>>132140935
The paradox fails to reason it's absence.
As a matter of fact it demands the interviewee to make claims, to enable it to make a counter-claim(s).
That neither have evidence for to proof said claims.

>>132125258
the problem is not with atheism but with the inevitable faggoty smugness that accompanies it. the psychology of a typical atheist is one of a child who feels they've outsmarted their parents, a rebel without a cause

>>132142508
No one, his reason for being is necessarily self-contained. That's one of the most basic presuppositions for God's existence, to the point of it being definitional. Dawkins and Hitchens are absolute clowns for passing that garbage off as a legitimate argument, no one took that seriously for the past 2000 years for good reason. It belies a fundamental non-understanding of what God is.

>>132142818
>it is making every possible excuse and exception
Only two exceptions, that there had to be a beginning for something not divine, and that something divine has always existed, which, by the way is less far fetched than everything just popping up in the universe for no reason or everything always having been there for infinity. You make the same amount of assumptions we do.

>>132145161
And what stops us from saying that the reason for the big bang is "necessarily self-contained"?

to me your argument just looks like another poor attemt to define god into existance.

>>132143695
Nice strawman. You should try actually reasoning next time. If you pay attention, you might even realize those "fancy puns" are based on some sound logic and you're talking out your ass!

>>132145667
The Big Bang isn't all powerful, eternal, and different than anything we could know. It was just one event.

>>132145538
there is less assumption in saying that the universe popped out from nowhere, than in saying "the universe has been created by God" since in the latter you introduce a very specifical mechanism, without any proof. You would have said "the universe has popped out from the blue egg layed by the magical giant tortoise" as well.
Science does actually acknowledge that there are many unexplained phenomena,whereas religion takes these unexplained phenomena and pastes arbitrarily on them its own narative using complex yet totally unproven claims.

>>132125258
No, it's honestly pleb-tier mythology of the universe

>>132128562
>"‘Atheism’ means the negation of theism, the denial of the existence of God."
Belief is irrational
Theists cannot prove any gods exist
There is nothing for atheists to disprove
Existence is the non-starter - denied in advance by theists when they cannot prove their gods existence.

>>132130645
>Not to mention I could also twist this around and say "Existence of evidence is not evidence of existence".
Nice logical substitution and it works better than imagined.

>>132128125
>Agnostic christian says " I dont know if God exists but I believe in him.
wat. Either you believe God exists or you don't. If you're in the "I don't know" camp then you do not believe in God

>>132145986
your god isnt even real, the big bang is.

>>132145667
Because it cannot be, the Big Bang is a material event (i.e. bounded by time and space). An event bounded by time and space cannot be self-caused, as anything existing within time and space is necessarily contingent and changing.

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The believe that matter came into existence from nothing and that the laws of the universe that hold everything together is nothing but a coincidence.

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>>132146233
>there is less assumption in saying that the universe popped out from nowhere, than in saying "the universe has been created by God" since in the latter you introduce a very specifical mechanism
Where is the proof it was nothing? You have the same amount of proof we do, nigger. It being nothing is as likely as "the universe has popped out from the blue egg layed by the magical giant tortoise".
>Science does actually acknowledge that there are many unexplained phenomena,whereas religion takes these unexplained phenomena and pastes arbitrarily on them its own narative using complex yet totally unproven claims
>complex yet totally unproven claims
It's not really all that complex, but I do agree that it's unproven. It's just plausible that something that we have totally no idea about made everything, and that's why it's there. I can't and won't be swayed until actual proof is found either way, and even then, I'd rather preserve the traditions and religion of the West than give in the Godless and nihilistic atheism.
>>132147023
Not an argument.

>>132145813
what I've seen so far isn't sound logic. In many cases, altered quantifiers: theological arguments uses a new word "exists" with a complete different meaning; not the same as "there exists a fridge in this room".
Even the word "every" is a modified one since if the claim "every thing that exists need a creator" is true (and this sentence needs a proof too), you have to explain "who created the creator"?

>>132147023
Both are real. Both are necessary to have a complete view of reality.

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>>132131661
>Atheism is the result of the dumbing down of the populace to the point that they are incapable of understanding Rationalism
Atheism came into existence when the first liar claimed that "God created the world" and the next guy said "bullshit!"

Rationalism is the pseudoscience of theists desperately trying to make their irrational beliefs appear to be rational, i.e. in threads like this one.

A closed mind claims that religion is always right. An open mind realizes there could be other answers.

>>132147105
>(i.e. bounded by time and space)
so you are claiming there was space and time "before" the big bang?
>An event bounded by time and space cannot be self-caused
and there are no black swans because i have never seen one.

Anyway, even if you disprove the big bang it doesnt prove a god.

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>>132147177
nah wrong
atheism is the lack of superstitious beliefs. That is it. We simply don't know all the answers and that's fine. It's the logical correct choice versus the arrogant brainlet belief of "lol god did it".

>>132147224
not even trying to argue, what can be assumed without evidence can be disregarded without evidence.

>>132147287
now that is a claim that needs to be justified if any.
i dont think a god is necessary, you say it is, prove it.
and in the process disprove string theory and the matrix and create a theyory of everything.

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>>132133941
>Atheists argue that you can't get something from nothing, therefore there can't be a God.
Atheists don't make this argument. Theists literally claim that their gods appeared out of nowhere, are complex beings with no intelligent designer, and set the universe in motion while simultaneously denying anything could have set their gods in motion.

This is the classic definition of cognitive dissonance in denial.

>>132147338
>Atheism came into existence when the first liar claimed that "God created the world" and the next guy said "bullshit!"
Attacking only Christianity, the religion of the West. This is one of the biggest reasons Atheism, hedonism, and drugs are pushed by Jews - to make us weak.

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>>132135596
>Atheism is...
...nothing but non-belief. Anything else is just another lie the masters-of-lying theists whipped up.

>>132125258
/pol/ is an Agnostic board.

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>>132135759
>No, again you don't understand the concept of God.
How do you claim to be an expert on what gods are?

>>132148043
i dont know about hedonism or drugs, but atheism is pushed by reason and intellectual honesty.

>>132141611
>One can not have human rights without God
Your falsehood is easily contradicted by civilizations without any gods that have human rights.

>>132147347
I'm not attempting to disprove the Big Bang you clown. The Big Bang is a material event, involving the appearance of matter and time out of nothing (seemingly). A material event necessitates a cause, leaving a few possibilities: a different material cause caused this universe (infinite regress), this universe caused itself (circular reasoning), or it was caused by something immaterial, beyond time and space (God).

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>>132125258
atheism is degenerate, society wouldn't exist without a set of morals to agree on. The more atheists there are the more dissolved society becomes. There's a reason why atheist societies haven't really existed, and why atheism was treated as taboo in many successful societies. Special snowflakes who want to think that every generation before them was in the wrong, and they'll be the ones to free society through atheism, are fooling themselves and are walking into their own destruction.

>>132148043
>Attacking only Christianity, the religion of the West.
You must be stupid, I never said anything about Xtianity. All religions with made up gods are poisonous to people, including the Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam).

>>132148661
>I'm not attempting to disprove the Big Bang
i know, you are trying to prove something that would turn some science on its head and you are trying to do with 0 evidence or even good reason.

>>132148341
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_atheists_and_agnostics#Public_figures

>>132148585
Name one

>>132125634
Honestly i admit, he is right.

>>132148806
That cross on your image means absolutely nothing, right?

>>132147750
I'm not against string theory at all, I'm for it. I'm almost done with a degree in theoretical physics, that's why I believe in God. I was raised agnostic atheist, but I find the logical evidence for God overwhelming. To quote Werner Heisenburg, "The first gulp from the glass of the natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you"

>>132148256
Logical necessity

>>132148859
Everything I have said is congruent with science. Sorry you can't see that science has limitations.

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>>132125258
We tried atheism and it turned out to be a disaster. We goin back to Jesus.

>>132148871
i dont see the correlation, unless you are saying jews are at the heart of reason and honesty.
i certainly didnt become atheist because jews affected me, didnt know a single jew and wasnt affected by the media.

>>132149033
i find it REALLY hard to believe you are into science when you promote "logical evidence" so much.

God is a necessity in your world view, but you are not justified in having that world view.

>>132149409
>Emma Goldman[276] – anarchist known for her political activism, writing, and speeches
>Béla Kun[306] – Hungarian revolutionary who led the Hungarian Soviet Republic in 1919
>David Miliband[310] – former British Labour Party politician; Member of Parliament from 2001 to 2013; Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs from 2007 to 2010; older brother of Ed and son of Ralph Miliband (see Sociology section )
There appears to be a correlation of some kind, but I can't put my finger on it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Silverman_(activist)
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>132143878
433.8 light years

Do your trig.

>>132125634
aren't czech like 80% Atheists and are better off than poland eaven tho we are mostly christian?

>>132149820
so you are saying jews are honest and good at reasoning. ok whatever.

>>132148955
>stop using the symbol of the most popular religion when arguing against religion as a concept
You are right, though. He should add the star of david and crescent as well.

>>132150050
kek, get the fuck off of /pol/.
>>132150100
>stop using the symbol of the most popular religion when arguing against religion as a concept
Christianity isn't the most popular religion in the world, you kike. I direct you to what you're pushing.
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>>132132954
They claim proof exists that there is no god.

>>132141734
>Rome spread Christianity to barbarians.
What happened before that, anon? Specifically to the roman culture?

>>132143728
>The 4% atheists are the ones trying to turn our nation away from God. They are the ones trying to remove God from our schools, our government, our media, and our public life. Why do you want (them) to succeed?
Because looking at what being "one nation under god" has gotten you, it can only be a good thing.

>>132149359
We tried that too, now we'll have 4 billion niggers by 2100 thanks to that shit.

>>132149649
I am logically justified in my worldview. And how could one be against logical evidence yet for scientific evidence? Scientific reasoning is based upon logical reasoning, science would not exist without logic. If you delve into science deeply enough you will invariably end up arguing in terms of logic. It also depends what you are arguing about: for something pertaining to the natural world scientific thought is just as valid as logic, however for something beyond the natural world (i.e. beyond the perview of science) only logic would be relevant.

>>132150539
Bullshit. Science is a religion too. All science requires the FAITH, that the universe behaves now, like it always has.
Science now thinks the universe is a simulation, and therefore had a creator.
Way to go science...you figured out what us religious dummies knew for 200,000 years (AT LEAST).
Science is SUPER effective!!
I am logically justified in thinking you don't know half what you think you do.

>>132150539
i cant believe i have to explain logic to you.

Logic is a tool, not a way to truth. You feed evidence into logic to come to reasonable conclusions, for example.

All dogs die
Einstein is dead
Einstein was a dog

there is nothing wrong with this chain itself, its a factual problem.

Now what is the evidence you are feeding into logic to conclude that a god exists?

>>132151104
science

>>132151224
science is just another tool...

>>132143878
We spin with it, with relative low amount of positional variation; due to the fact of our systems being in the gravitational pull of the other, as the smaller masses are orbiting in the gravity of the larger celestial body's their masses.
We are as well significantly smaller in mass compared to the entire galaxy, thus we have greater difficulty to escape it's gravitational field, without enough force from an outside source, that would result our mass to "escape" the gravitational pull of the larger celestial bodies.
It's partially explained in Newton's 1st law, but the other laws explain the other aspects of this phenomena.

Thus unless we get "knocked" out of orbit, or the mass of the sun or other celestial bodies change, we won't alter our inherent positional values by a large margin in a "short" time span.
And that is why we don't really switch significantly from our inherent positions.

>>132151352
Name something that isn't. Or theoretically could never be.
(PHILOSOPHY LIGHTWEIGHTS)

>>132151537
a specific finding, for example the evidence that evolution is true, or the theory of gravity.