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>Leaders of the Australian public service will today be told

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>Leaders of the Australian public service will today be told to "hit pause" on blind recruitment trials, which many believed would increase the number of women in senior positions.

This is obviously just because women have fewer opportunities to build their resume.
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>>132093936
>tfw you can detect an insufferable cunt from her style of writing.

Women. Not even once.
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>racial profiling is bad when cops do it
>racial profiling is good when HR does it
hmm
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>>132093936
Literally disproves gender bias to females. It actually proves a slight bias to males. Fucking pottery
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>>132093936

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1400217

HAHAHA

OP THE FIRST FUCKING COMMENT YOU SAID AS SARCASTIC ANECDOTE IS REAL
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>>132093936
I am surprised the women actually thought the blind recruitment would help them.

I didn't realise they believed their own bullshit to that extent. I had assumed they were a bit more cynical than that. It looks like they have swallowed their own propaganda.
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>>132095327
>I didn't realise they believed their own bullshit to that extent. I had assumed they were a bit more cynical than that. It looks like they have swallowed their own propaganda.

You had journalists and pollsters believe Clinton was a certainty to win
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>>132093936
Wasn't there recently a tech conference which chose it's speakers by blind peer review?
They all turned out to be men and the conference shut it down and gave some spots to women
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>>132093936
How are there so many stupid people around that thought this would have the desired effect?

I really don't see where all these idiots come from? How are they this retarded?

Do people REALLY unironically think women will be just as good as men in leadership potions? Have these morons ever worked with women?

It's absolute insanity that people who think like this exist
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>>132095327
They've always believed their own nonsense, liberalism is a mental illness.
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>>132095116
huh
i guess women aren't as underprivileged as they though they would be.
stop oppressing their expectations of being oppressed, sexists
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>>132093936
> Have shit resume
> Think they didn't get the job because they have a female name

It's because women put dumb shit that has no value. Like, "Upped productivity", "Increased moral", and other shit that can't be gauged but make them feel like they have something to write down.
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>>132095543
Yeah

And one of the guys who lost his spot was a total doormat feminist cuck
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>>132095866
What this guy said is right. The number one thing to have on a resume is results.
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>>132095193
why do you browse there
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>>132095866
Literally had this discussion with a woman earlier today:

>>I upped productivity
>how?
>>buzzwords buzzwords
>okay, but HOW?
>>buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords
>No, just tell me what exactly it was that you did; give me an example
>>buzzwords buzzwords

I wasn't interviewing her, but I was trying to help her in interviews; told her to just completely drop the entire "upped productivity" thing because it just made her sound like she had no fucking clue what she was on about.
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>>132095116
>study shows that men are less likely to be chosen based on their gender
>oh shit better stop that blind recruitment, it's helping men!
What the fuck, man. Isn't the whole point of this to stop bias?
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>>132095585
tpbp
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>>132096339
>Isn't the whole point of this to stop bias?
The whole point is to equalise outcomes. Retarded liberals thought bias was the cause of the disparate outcomes. Knowing that it is not the actual cause will not stop them pushing for equalised outcomes.
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>>132093936
Internalised Patriarchy
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>>132093936

>men are better than womyns

NO SHIT SHERLOCK
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>>132096583
Equality of opportunity and equality of outcome are mutually exclusive.
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18 y.o here, dropped out of public highschool at 16

public education is an absolute fucking disgrace. Rampant with openly communist, homosexual teachers who base every class around 'muh holocaust' and 'muh apartheid'.

I cant believe my fucking taxes fund this shit.
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>>132097104
Not if the people involved are genuinely equal. Real life seldom works out like that though.
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>>132095866
I got a job in public service(to be precise libraries), before I got it I spent two years working full time in the community with the disabled and volunteering three days a week in a school library, one day a week at a charity organization library and one day a week at a different government organization in the same field(a museum).
I also have a masters degree in library sciences.

I was one of four guys hired in an intake of about twenty people. Half the women hired had no experience at all in my field, no experience working with the public, children, the disabled or non-English speakers and since then(three years) about half of them have quit.
I went out and absolutely padded my resume with all that shit specifically so I'd stand out as someone who wanted that specific job, almost half the people they were looking to hire just put their hands up for every job they saw until they got one.

The time before that, for the same organization I didn't get past the first interview round.
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>>132097973
>masters degree in library sciences
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>>132098212
Piss off you cunt
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Have you guys ever gone on SEEK and looked at an ad for a government job?
When you apply for government jobs you don't just send them a CV: they have this big thing with "key competencies" and shit to discourage them getting bombed by CVs from people that aren't "in the club."

Who is in the club? Mostly it's networks of women, gay men and non-whites. Those people tell each other how to get hired at these places and when they get themselves into positions where they choose who is hired: you better believe the exploit it.
Indians in particular love this shit. Ever heard about Fiji Indians? The Jewish Conspiracy is completely real in Fiji, with no hyperbole, except it's Indians, not Jews.
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>>132096339
Dude, come on. Are you a sweet, innocent spring child or something?
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>>132097219
Yeah I finished year 12 but did poorly due teachers not really willing to assist due to my political views.
Made me out to be an absolute cunt to my parents as well.
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>>132095585
>Do people REALLY unironically think women will be just as good as men in leadership potions?
they've been lied to about it their entire life
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>>132098392
I'll piss in your cunt mouth you fucking panzy
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>>132098212
It's a real thing. Mostly about cataloging techniques, organizational management, database and information management stuff.
Useful when I get up into higher ranks of my work, kind of useless at the lower level I'm at right now.

>>132098422
That shit is infuriating. A friend of mine wanted to get a job at a hospital as a orderly and got nowhere for ages because every entry level job was basically set aside for people with incredibly specific qualifications and experience to stop anyone getting in.
I volunteered so much because I knew that as a guy I'd have no fucking chance without experience everywhere.
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>>132096339
>Isn't the whole point of this to stop bias?
that's the claim

I don't get why they want to employ blind people though
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>>132096339
Think back to your high school days and the books and movies they made you watch.
I bet lots of them were really poor quality and boring, right?
But think about this: I bet most of them were actually the kind of banal drama that girls like, right?
Back in the day they found out that boys were doing better than girls, in school. So they re-worked our education systems to uplift girls to be the equal of boys. Because it should be exactly the same, they thought.
The result was that boys did worse but because they were now doing about equal to girls it was considered a complete success.

Contemporary education is literally designed to make boys fail and girls succeed.
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>>132098870
I see, it sounds pleasant to my autism. At least you got your foot in the door, now its just a waiting game.
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>>132093936
Yeah, right-wingers, the far-right, Nazis, National Socialists, neo-Nazis, KKK members, alt-righters, white supremacists, stormfags, bigots, racists, sexists, and misogynists were right about everything.

Nothing in nature is equal.
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>>132095116
im fine with diversity as long as it isnt purposely pursued and embraced, if im working with an asian im only going to hate it if they purposely put him there because he is asian
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>>132099177
>im fine with diversity
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>>132095116
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
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>>132098933
>Contemporary education is literally designed to make boys fail and girls succeed.
not to mention the coursework component in many qualifications these days. no telling how much the kid did and how much was a tutor or parent. then there is the biased marking(because wimmins been oppressed forever so ok to make YOU pay)
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>>132098989
It's a fun job, get to meet the public, read to kids, shelve hundreds and hundreds of books in alphabetical order. The autism levels are amazing.

Oh, that's the other thing, all the health and safety stuff is made for women, so we're told not to shelve for more than half an hour a day and not to lift anything too heavy and all these other things about gripping strength and body motion. Stuff I can do for hours in my sleep is "too dangerous" for female bones.

Not that some of them aren't up for it and work hard(the only two people I've met who work harder on shelving than me are women(and one of them is a bitch but unlike her I can respect the work if not the person), but they tap out after about an hour maximum per shift when I'm usually two hours minimum) but it really feels like a lot of them just park themselves on a chair as much of the day as possible and type on computers doing god alone knows what.
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>>132099448
What age group are the women who work there usually in? Maybe you can get lucky and bag yourself a librarian qt. Honestly it all sounds so comfy.
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>>132099359
i generally avoided homework. My argument was straight a's on tests but not ony did they still fail me but the next year i didn't get a single A from two of my teachers who were the biggest parties responsible for my flunk. They'd always find some little dipshit flaws in my work.

but it was the same fucking thing i did the previous year!

i said fuck that, and joined the military instead.

better use of my time blowing up muds.
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>>132099595

inb4 /pol/ autists think librarian is the same as libertarian
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>>132099299
>ignoring everything else i said
if i worked in a 100% white environment i would be fine with it, as long as they were all the best people to hire academic and experience wise
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>>132099595
Mostly married middle aged and older women(no-one gets fired and they keep the jobs for life so they don't quit), some younger qts just out of college but it's mostly older married women right now and the qts are usually engaged or in long term relationships and got the job to basically help save up for a house or to pay for a kid. There's a ton of flexibility in the job hours which makes it great for new moms.

The reason I'm still going okay at the job, I think, is that I literally work any shift they give me on a moments notice no matter what, when or where it is. So I'll drive more than half an hour to the other side of town and work six hours with ten minutes notice on my day off(not like I was doing anything else anyway) while parents with kids and the qts with boyfriends and social lives just can't do that.
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>>132099822

I didn't ignore the rest, the point still stands
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>>132099790
I think teachers are jelly too, most of them aren't really 1st raters

my school gave and of term grades on attainment and effort. I was very proud of all my 1F's. Much better to put in no effort and get great marks
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>>132100203
well where i went to school if you showed up every day and just put words on paper, the worst you could get is a D even if everything was wrong.

it was about getting that per head money, not about actual teaching.

sorry but if they want me to do their work on my free time they can pay me or advance me to a level that's actually challenging.

you think i wanna learn PEMDAS for a full fucking month because the class is 30% girls and 40% niggers?
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>>132098422

Its not really a big secret tbqhf, most companies put your resume through a computer program to weed out candidates. I don't know how it is in Australia but for US gov jobs all you really need to do is add the buzzwords from the job description they post(e.g. if the job description has the wording "needs strong leadership skills" the program will look for "leadership" in the resume and weed out those who don't have those words in their resume).
t. someone whose entire family works for the goverment
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>>132100334
no, that's one of the most annoying things, how fucking boring it is if you aren't a fucking retard. especially given the per head spend on actual fucking retards, how much better would society be if we spent that extra money on the gifted?
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>>132093936
>women don't get hired/promoted because of (((systemic sexism)))
>judge applicants' resumès based solely on merit, with no indication of what gender the applicant is
>most of the jobs/promotions still go to men
Feminists btfo
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>>132100481
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBcpuBRUdNs
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>>132100571
great movie, even better book
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>>132093936
Bump for obvious truths
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>>132094762
Makes U Think
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>>132100712
funny thing about reading books, the more knowledge you gain from other people the more you model your views and opinions after them.

it is after all, why television is so effective. Letting a stranger into your life and trusting them because they're on your television.
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>When your recruitment methodology supposed to find there's a bias against women
>It finds a statistically significant bias against men instead

Absolutely problematic
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>>132095327
It's because men have advantages handed to them earlier before the application process fuckhead
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>>132101057
hence i dont read books
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>>132101155
t. bogan intellectyall
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>>132099359
In Australia, education is slanted to assignments so that holes will spend ages on it and not tests because women are shit under pressure lmao
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>>132101511
same in many countries. if they can't lift up the slits, they have to bring down boys
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>>132100457
I think I remember reading about that on Cracked back in the days when they weren't entirely cucked.
http://www.cracked.com/article_20322_6-ways-companies-are-secretly-screwing-job-applicants.html
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>>132104020
Archive the shills https://archive.is/2SE8W
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>>132104052
Cheers Nordbro.
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>>132093936
This just proves that sexism is far more ingrained into our society than we even realise.

How do we fix this?
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>>132106508
More blind tests for starters.
Seems to weed out the women-folk.
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>>132095116
uh uh uh... i know! psychic patriarchy!
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>>132098933
They've done that with the HSC curriculum, less mathematical problems and calculations in the curriculum and tests, more wordy problems in subjects like Physics, Chemistry, Economics ect...

Girls are better than boys at the wordy problems and they are weak in mathematics, so the course has been redesigned to favour girls. Also the mathematics subjects have become less difficult over the years, especially the 4 Unit Maths. This is because if the subject is less difficult, it's easier for the students to get high marks, but it denies the truly talented students who are mostly boys the opportunity to extend themselves above the rest of the class.
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>>132098212
>NEET
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>>132100457
And that's why you add keywords in font 8, text color white, at the bottom of the last page and save as pdf.
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>>132093936
Why is diversity such a big thing to these people? Are they so retarded that they think all people of one sex and race all share the same ideas? You can hire 100% white male and still have a diverse list of ideas from them which is the only thing that should matter in a business. Who the fuck cares about skin color or having a vagina when it comes to a job? These people need to fucking die.
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>>132093936
The real point should be unbiased recruitment, but they make it clear that isnt their goal, their goal is to hire more women, period, full stop. That's fucking disgusting. Fucking liberals, and people wonder why many young men check out of society.
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>>132098422
The key competencies stuff is so that those charged with hiring can have a """"neutral"""" and """"objective"""" standpoint on who they hire. People literally tick boxes based on the KSC's and then the people with the most amount of "points" get to the shortlist, and they use a similar thing in interviews.

I've been on the other side and this is how it works. It's super hard to get your first public service job because it's often the case that the go to people moving horizontally or have had their contracts lapse.
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>>132112343
Because they hate white men and diversity is their buzzword for it
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>>132093936

This is what I and everyone I know of expected, females are massively over-represented in the public service compared to their competencies.

Pretty funny though.
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