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NATIONAL CAPITALISM GENERAL: FIRST OF ITS KIND EDITION

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Welcome to /ncg/! Here we discuss the virtues of the market while also acknowledging that modern capitalism is degenerate.

>THE TENETS OF NATIONAL CAPITALISM

>The Nation

1. The Nation must be preserved in order to stop globalism and communism.

2. The Nation must observe and if needed protect the free market where and when it can.

3. The Nation must respect and defend the freedom of its citizens.

4. The Nation must always maintain a balanced budget, neither debt nor surplus is acceptable.

5. The Nation must defend its borders from immigration, invasion or open attack.

6. The Nation must defend and define citizenship. The Nation must not allow non citizens to have rights equivalent to citizens. Only through civic service or birthright can one become a Citizen.

7. The Nation must allow all people the right to purchase and carry firearms, with no restrictions.

8. The Nation must not allow citizens to engage in violent crime, theft, terrorism, rape or other infractions of the Non Aggression Principle.

9. The Citizen can be drafted to civil service or military action in time of war.

10. The Citizen can vote for leadership, only the citizen has this right. Government officials and non citizens may not vote.

11 The Citizen may defend themselves, subject to liability if proven to be in the wrong.

12. The Citizen can trade freely for any good or service and the Nation may not interfere with said exchange unless it is a clear and direct threat to the Nation.

13. The Citizen may request a fair trial for accused wrongdoings.

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14. The Citizen may not advocate communism, socialism or non family kin centered lifestyles without recourse.

15. Physical removal of bad actors will be decided upon by the laws and courts of the Nation.

16. The Citizen may have a trial before being removed, a non citizen must be removed on the spot without trial.

17. The market must be allowed to work freely, interpersonal, interstate and internationally.

18. Supply and Demand must always be respected, for the market to function properly.

19. Any industry that can be run privately can and should compete with state enterprise.

20. Regulation of free exchange can only be discussed in accordance with the State, only when a threat to the safety of the Citizens and Nation can be objectively proven, and may only be implemented temporarily.

21. International trade deals may only be allowed if they benefit the Nation, it’s Citizens and the Market.

22. It is the responsibility of both the Citizen and the Nation to protect, defend and observe the Market.

23. The Market is a tool to better the lives of Citizens and the health of the Nation.

24. The means of production must be owned by private Citizens in order to get competition and thus, efficiency from them.

25. Competition in the Market is a virtue, creating new and better methods of production over time.

26. The Nation and Market serve the Citizen, however the Citizen is required to put forth effort to protect and defend the Nation and the Market.

I am hardcore shilling for NatCap. I want to gain traction with this for certain.
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>>132075991
>>132076060

Is this system racist?

Is not neo liberalism and globalism a superior capitalistic model?

Thanks
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yeah nah, you can't be capitalist and nationalist

either you believe in the free market or you don't

you don't get to pick when you do and when you don't
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>>132075991
>A dollar sign instead of a swastika
Please... reconsider. Use a rune that represents prosperity or strength or something. Just not a derpy dollar sign.
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>>132075991
isnt this essentially what the states were before all the communist subversion?

>>132076393
the national socialist pick and choose when socialism makes sense and when it doesnt. be autistic elsewhere.
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>>132076393
Fellow capitalist here:

I agree with this gentlemans description of capitalism's fixed character.

I would like to add, the nationalistic character of th Chimera ideology you had proffered is contrary to self interest, and profit.

Perhaps, you may like globalism, if you give it a chance.
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>>132075991
>nationalism
>capitalism
pick one
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>>132076436
I like movement or flow the most out of these, leaf. Still the dollarstika isn’t ideal, and neither are these runes.
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>>132075991
>>132076060
>thread was made directly after the /leftypol/ communist general died

Wow it's almost like you /leftypol/ shits are too obvious and should stop.
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>>132075991
It's bullshit unless you define what leading religion will be in this state of yours. If you believe that cosmopolitan, enlightenment bullshit of mixing up religions and ignoring them effectively, then you'll end up getting islamized
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How is this different from paleoconservatism? I like the effort though.
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>>132076817
Christianity and its morals will be applied to day to day life. Other religions must have social stigma placed against them, similarly to what Japan does to Muslims; hard laws against it only create enemies of the state. Too many enemies and your state collapses.
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>>132076972
BOOOOO
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>>132076849
State enforcement against degeneracy is a thing in NatCap. Paleoconservatism is very limited government, something I do not agree with.
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>nationalism
>capitalism


pick one
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>>132076245
The system acknowledges race and the differences between them; it also recognizes that you shouldn’t punish the many for the actions of a few. The battle of National Socialism against the Jews was misguided; you do not fire the janitors at a Fortune 500 if the CEO was embezzling money. So why kill every last Jew if it was the banking class that identified as Jews that did it?
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>>132075991
You can't have nationalism and capitalsm running with each other.
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>>132076060
How about this symbol instead?
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>>132077250
The United States for the first 150 years?

The USA had a ton of protectionism and nationalist qualities for all of its glory years. Its funny how people have already forgotten it. They act like the USA started in the 1960's.
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>>132077273
see
>>132077599
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>>132075991
I love it! Make it happen!
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>>132075991
>nationalist
>values materialistic order more than people
????

A nationslist values his race and people over everything else.
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>>132077599
based, thank you mister gadsen
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>>132077599
also massive amounts of immigration
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>>132077732
implying all immigrants are the same
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>>132077809
proof of anti-nationalism right here
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these noobs still dont udnerstand how nations become succesful
free market is what powerful coutnries push on weaker countries such as mine in order to stay in power
their nationalist markets, are our free markets
only protectionist countries that force their shit on the rest of the world's markets stay on top
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>>132077685
National Socialism lasted what, 15 years for one time in history?

All Monarchies and early Republicans were capitalists in some form, accord to socialists. They lasted much longer and did much more to further their people than Socialism ever has.

The Nazi meme was a horrible failure.
Fascist Spain was the most successful but their economy eventually died too.
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>>132077685
Nationalist means the basis that you organize yourself on is in race and this flesh snd blood, peoples, no economic dogma is the foundation of economic policy but the people themsrlves are the foundation of economic policy.
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>>132077847
we essentially brain drained the entire world for more than 100 years. its in the national interest to deprive our rivals of their best and brightest.
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>>132077732
98% of it from Europe only. Strict laws on that until the 60's.

>>132077847
not really, assimilation was forced on all immigrants. Which is nationalism.
"white" people became "white" because they could no longer be German, Irish, English etc. They could only be American.
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>>132075991
Like judeo-communism but half as bad. Fuck off, statist
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>>132075991
I like this thread. This is a good Idea. I also like the dollar flag, it will trigger communists. There should be more threads like this. Thanks OP.
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>>132077997
thats capitalist as fuck, and thats why you have shitty domestic education and infrastructure systems. That attitude is what has led to your current predicament as far as immigration and crumbling national infrastructure. You are a bloated mess that parasitically relies on other peoples for your every need, hardly nationalistic and I wouldnt recommend keeping it.
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>natcap

i like it
and i havent even read OP yet
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>>132077268
Then you are not a capitalist. Capitalists are always a minority, and we hate the majority and see them as commodities.

Sages
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hi ghost and the inner circle
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>>132077987
>economic policy isn't from economic theory
>it's da people
that sounds like a workable idea and not completely fucking retard
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>>132077987
When someone asks you what you are you answer, Race, flesh, blood human principles.
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>>132078158
we are weighed down by welfare and excessive taxation and regulations. our education system is socialized. in our glory days private schooling was the norm. youre attacking socialist elements of our country in order to somehow discredit capitalism? sure thing buddy
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Fucking autistic LARPing thread

eat shit, faggot
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>>132078538
>a thread discussing an idea
>larp

are you fucking retarded?
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>>132078538
Get out, jew shill!
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>>132075991
Good shit OP
bump
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Capitalists are always going to be globalists, the markets have to expand always. that's the only recovery in capitalism. Capitalism has become too dependant on resources across the world at first, the colonies supplied it now the world is a colony of the multinational corporations. There is no solution where capitalism and nationalism survive together since globalism is the end game. Even if you tried to keep it insular, asides from getting overthrown it would get under cut by the black market bringing in illegal commodities.

We need a new system that isn't capitalist or marxist, they're products of enlightenment era liberalism that have to die.
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>>132078360
Correct, there is no evonomic dogma but the one uchanfing principle sre people made of flesh and bone, these people is who I base my organization on, the beauty of my race snd people the spirit and values of our own.
We organize ourselves as mothers fathers sons daughters of our racial community.
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>>132078410
In your glory days pretty much nobody had a tertiary education, or even education past sixteen. Death by infectious diseases was common due to poor urban sanitary works and your economy was run off of poor immigrants from other countries. Socialised education and public sanitation works solved the first two, not the free market, whilst the last one is a proud american tradition of importing labour for cheap and then complaining when you become minorities.
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I could get behind this. It pisses off both the stormfags and the commies.
Keep going OP. Lets see where we go.
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>>132075991
Sounds a lot better than National Socialism to say at least
But it's hard to see that working out when neither nationalists nor capitalists would aprove it.
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>>132078670
We build from our people, we study from our people, we work from our people.
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>>132078651
This is dumb. The point is that it's capitalism with the "handicap" of being nationalistic as a priority. It's a solid idea.
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>>132078670
uh huh

so basically you'll trust whatever dictator throws that bullshit around while he does whatever he wants with the economy

really intelligent people you all have
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>>132078709
It's basically Paleoconservatism without the protectionism.

But I can get behind it.
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>>132078907
No its not. Because the two sides will fight each other until one prevails. Some people will support cheap shit, and so want greater capitalism at the expense of nationalism, whilst others will want greater nationalism and so have to limit the free market to do so.
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>>132076393
>>132076604
>>132077250
>>132077273
Is this a new meme or did I miss something?
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I tried making the dollar sign less obvious just to see how it would look.
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>>132075991

Fuck off and die. I swear you redditfags will end up in camps with the kikes.
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I could possibly get behind the natcap. Let's go!
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>>132078907
It won't work, they will either be the enemy for the other globalist states like Iran is or the business class that emerges will eventually ensure that the nation participates back in the global economy again.
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>>132079024
Stick that bundle of sticks faggot.

Or better yet, buy a purple double headed dildo for only 19.99
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>>132079024
its not a meme. Its a fact that hardline nationalism cannot exist alongside capitalism. Hence random people from across the globe can say the same thing.
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>>132078691
>In your glory days pretty much nobody had a tertiary education, or even education past sixteen. Death by infectious diseases was common due to poor urban sanitary works
implying the rest of the world was anything different in those times.
>your economy was run off of poor immigrants from other countries.
and this is a problem why? they still chose to come here and were better off that if they had stayed in their home countries.
>Socialised education and public sanitation works solved the first two, not the free market,
they solved problems that didnt exist. even today most people have no use for tertiary education and modern medicine is a product of the free market. even these days there still exist privately owned water,sewage and electricity utilities. please dont try to school me on my own country while you adhom from behind your meme jihadi flag.
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>>132078999
>until one prevails

Take a guess who will win.

I bet you can't
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>>132078945
We have principles that must be carried out and policies that must be implemented we will find our Fuhrer to lead us, in the meantime while no Fuhrer has bern found we are inma state of regency and the party localities leaders shall help lead the movement against counter revolutionary propaganda and reactionaries, neo nazis are counter revolutionaries who demoralize and try to turn our revolution to that of evil and destruction they come from the Jew and are counter revolutionaries all the same, all other counter revolutionary propaganda will be listed to protect the people from traps done by enemies.
Our movement is the noblest one that uplifts the human condition.

https://m.youtube.com/watchv=VeNCVFsyS6Y
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>>132075991

I agree with some of this, but what's with the restriction on avocation of communism? Don't tell me you're anti free speech anon.

Also can't help but notice the wording on the firearms part includes non-citizens. No restrictions seems a bit misguided to me as well.
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>>132079310
capitalism no shit. I dont know what your point is
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>>132079145
>knowing the price of dildos
Well...
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>>132078609
>>132078630
>'guys, lets make a whole new normie friendly ideology!'
>copies nazis

Fucking retards. This is an adult board, you have to be 18+ to post. All these children need to leave
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>>132079310
Nationalism would win if we act fast in trying to suppress capitalism!
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>>132075991
>4. The Nation must always maintain a balanced budget, neither debt nor surplus is acceptable.

you are fucking retarded
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>>132079400
My point is you nationalist suck my almighty capitalistic cock
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>>132076393
>capitalism means free market

fucking idiot, that's Laissez Faire Capitalism
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>>132079334
Dead link
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhdy0Y8AqPM
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>>132079442
>what is google
>obviously not a capitalist
>there is a market for everything
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>>132079310
>>132079400
>>132079557
>I'm a shill trying to use divide and conquer tactics because your ideas would destroy the NWO
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>>132079306
>implying the rest of the world was anything different in those times.
And then the rest of the world socialised, and then the rest of the west got better. My point still stands that socialization is good.

>and this is a problem why? they still chose to come here and were better off that if they had stayed in their home countries.
Thats not nationalist. Thats the problem

>they solved problems that didnt exist. even today most people have no use for tertiary education
Is this a joke?

> modern medicine is a product of the free market
Is this a joke. certain drugs cost under two dollars to make but are sold for 170 dollars, not exactly fair to the public.

>even these days there still exist privately owned water,sewage and electricity utilities
Still subject to intense government regulation and built off the government grids.
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>>132079644
The best form of calitalism.

It has a nice ring to boot!
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>there are people ITT that think Nationalism and Capitalism are mutually exclusive

absolute fucking retards
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>>132079557
Thats the point, that nationalism and capitalism cannot coexist.
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>subscribing to the nationalist spook
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>>132079767
the best form of capitalism is one that finds the optimal level of competition on the market

which is not free market capitalism, but one with minimal anti-trust and anti-pollution laws
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I love it. National Capitalism now!
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>>132075991
The system has to acknowledge and always aim to preserve the racial composition of its people and acknowledge racial differences as absolute truths if the system does not, the "system" will inevitably collapse like Rhodesia like South Africa like Europe and the USA will unless something is done.
The system has to acknowledge that perhaps sadly humans are not equal among the races, with varying degrees of success along different spectrums.
The race that creates it's own civilization must be preserved along with its civilization at all costs.

Would the "system" agree?
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>argue against communist
>get called a capitalist
>argue against capitalism
>get called a communist
>tfw
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>>132079748
>thinks it is relevant
>thinks shills exist

I think you need to recharge your EBT card...you are running out of foil.
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We don't need this general, anyone who's redpilled already knows capitalism is the only answer
You cunts want to.make yourselves useful go fuck with the other commie/socialist/sg/ threads that spring up and let them know ow they aren't welcome
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>>132079788
When the most capitalistic countries in the world are letting brown people in by the millions and gave faggots the most rights they have had in the history of human civilization, don't be surprised when people are going to think that the two are mutually exclusive.
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>>132075991
The dollar sign reminds me of what I saw when I read Atlas Shrugged. Also, I think you should emphasize the importance of private property rights as well as that is essential to a free society. Also, what about things like eminent domain, which goes against private property. There would be no income tax correct? Would there be free market banking or how would the monetary system work? Would it be state regulated money, that wasn't fiat? Would minority immigration be allowed, because personally I think it should only be white immigration. Also, I think National Capitalism is the road for America. White European countries can have their fascism and NatSoc, because I think it is possible there. I probably have more questions but let's get this thread going because I love the idea of NatCap
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>>132075991
>>132076060
eh, i've seen way worse. have a free bump and let's see where this goes.
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>>132079920
except those countries were welfare states when they let those brown people in
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>>132079669
As National Socislists our primary enemies are subversives who call in our name for acts of destruction evil and murder, and the lies of us being on a path of conquest, 1st of all we are on a policy of world disarmament, 2nd of all we have no desire to harm any other peoples in the world.
We are an enemy of the exploiters of the economically weak and an enemy to the exploiters and murderes of the world, international finance.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uBxvdkpV8Z0
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>>132075991
>>132076060

3. The Nation must respect and defend the freedom of its citizens.

14. The Citizen may not advocate communism, socialism or non family kin centered lifestyles without recourse.

kek
This shit doesn't even pass peer review
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Capitalism is nothing but a tool that a nation uses strategically for the benefit of it's people.
It is not an end in itself
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>>132079920
>Implying Sweden and Germany aren't ruled by EU socialist dictators
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>>132080001
That doesn't mean they aren't a capitalist economy. Only literal memeball Ancaps think that some form of welfare means capitalism doesn't exist.
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>>132079852
>>132079852
No, you just set up a private industry that competes against pollution. Laisse faire still wins; okay, some intervention here and there, but we are behind the politicians all the same, and capitalist are usually present in the room. So, LF still wins.
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>>132077268
Because it isn't just money. Look in to MindGeek.
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>>132080144
>Blaming Capitalism for a problem caused by a socialist program
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>>132077268
>So why kill every last Jew if it was the banking class that identified as Jews that did it?

For fuck sakes Reddit.

...There were no gas chambers and there was no genocide. There were labor camps that the National socialists lost the ability to maintain properly and this combined with the unhealthy living conditions/spread of disease within the camps led to the unjust deaths of many people. Jews and also many poles and other people.

The biggest cause of suffering and starvation in the camps was the Allied bombing of supply routes to these camps. The allies are directly responsible for that starvation.

Part of me feels that this provided the jews with enormous leverage. The truth is that the mass casualties that took place in the labor camps were almost entirely caused by the Allies. Thus the post war arrangement to villify beyond doubt, to the extent it became cartoonish, the germans who ran these camps, while submitting enormously favorable conditions toward the jews. A country, Military and financial aid, continued support.

The Allies basically got blackmailed into this.


Now as far as capitalism.... late stage capitalism is the cannibalism of culture. If growth is threatened then the entire ethnic and cultural history of a country is thrown out for mass immigration in the hopes of maintaining a certain level of growth that maintains gov borrowing/spending/liabilities. Meanwhile about 100% of the mass immigrants will continue to vote for a larger Gov. It is cyclicaly self fulfilling destruction.

This is why it doesn't really matter who is in power. Rep/Dem. The private owners of the central banks and their fiefdoms in the media, academia, and entertainment, are what count. Own the currency, the culture, and all of the debt, and it doesn't matter what politicians say or do. They are basically playing a game of public make believe for people who believe the state is just a collection of the best and brightest coming together. no.
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Give me one good reason why we shouldn't just adapt the Classical fascist corporatist system and apply the logic of right wing economic policy
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>>132080038
Hahahhaha, that's funny. Implying communists or leftists deserve citizenship though... Although I definitely see this deteriorating in theory. I don't even know how you could enforce such a thing, although I agree with the idea. I guess private property rights + strong government sentiment would purge leftists on its own from living under its rule. Really you would just need a strong leader who represented the capitalistic right wing values, and those who wanted leftists views to be heard would hold no chance, and in the end would be better off leaving the country.
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>>132075991
JUST
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>>132080087
They aren't socialist, they have socialist parties(in Germany case not even the "Christian" Democrats have run the state for years now) but they don't actually control most of the economy, they just give away money. Welfare doesn't negate capitalism.
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>>132080144
welfare states are not very capitalistic

>>132080190
>you just set up a private industry that competes against pollution

that makes absolutely no sense
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Nationalism is a collectivist ideology, while the liberal capitalism is all about individualism.

The core of this ''ideology'' is an antithesis. Therefore, it would never work and it is impossible to be put in practice.
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>>132077268
All jews should be sent to Israel under a NatCap society. Or just leave it to private property rights and let them build their own little villages together.
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>>132075991
13. Let the gods decide our fate
>trial by combat
Make this happen :)
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>>132080311
>Welfare doesn't negate capitalism
but it isn't capitalistic, it's inherently socialistic

>>132080353
nope, nationalism doesn't address many parts of economic policy and capitalism doesn't address many parts of social policy

national capitalism is possible
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>>132080241
Most immigrants came because you capitalist wanted cheap labor rather than paying your citizens enough money to support a family. The kids they pop out are the one who uses the welfare.
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What about miscegenation?
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>>132080031
As national socialists we are a people movement our focus is on you not on any dogma, the people.

This is life under Hitler.
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>>132080330
>welfare states are not very capitalistic
Is the means of production in private hands?
Yes. Then its capitalistic
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>>132075991

> Muh Fascism

You think you're Mussolini reincarnated or something?
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>>132080471
Strong social discouragement plus blatant disapproval from leadership
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>>132080330
>makes absolute no sense
>does not explain why

:$
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>>132080478
you might want to read the chain of replies before you post you brainless nimrod
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"Sheckles are my God" the political party
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>>132080604
>make a claim
>don't explain how it works

private industry solves everything because magic!
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>>132080455
>but it isn't capitalistic, it's inherently socialistic

The government controlling an industry would be socialistic, the private sector running an industry would be capitalistic. Welfare doesn't fit in this context, it's just government spending but is all government spending now inherently socialist?
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>>132080616
Hahahhaha, leave natsoc to the european countries and let us burgers get fat and make money
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>>132075991
so mercantilism
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>>132080607
Thats capitalism tho. Plain and simple. If you tick the yes box then thats capitalism
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>>132075991
Can't wait for you to make a NazBol general next you fuckin shill.
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>>132080655
>not understanding the principles behind redistribution of wealth

please leave /pol/


>>132080730
and i never made the claim those countries weren't capitalist you fucking idiot
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>>132080353
>>132080455
You can't convince people that their goal is to work having the common good of the nation as a goal if the economy is all about self-centred acumulation of money in order to buy futilities.
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>>132080647
>puts words in my mouth
>trys to set up a strawman

Wow! Bro! That famous dutch weed kicking in yet, homie?
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>>132080692
I'm not even natsoc.

Jeffersonian Democracy brochacho
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>>132080760
naz bol is ok tho. Like the black front
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>>132080864
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA no
NazBol is just as jewish as any other form of marxism.
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go to hell fag we hate you. seriously take a gun and kill yourself. You are not needed in this world please go kill yourself and do the world a favor.
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>>132080811
you can if you enforce family oriented social policy

>>132080833
you still haven't explained why private industry just magically solves pollution
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>>132079838
Spooks are spooks
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>>132080278
>I don't even know how you could enforce such a thing
No shit lol

>you would just need a strong leader who represented the capitalistic right wing values, and those who wanted leftists views to be heard would hold no chance, and in the end would be better off leaving the country
Sure, lets call him the Fuher too.

Let the retarded be retarded, only job any authority needs to have is a mediator between two parties. The only laws are the ones that ensure the freedoms.

With these simple rules doesn't matter how many left cucks exist they will always get BTFO no matter how hard they scream
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FACT: You cannot revert to a previous form of capitalism without it developing to the form of capitalism we have now by virtue of the inherent workings of the capitalism system like wage labour, capital accumulation, banking and private property. The system we have now is the inevitable result of any kind of capitalism.

Thus in the interests of the nation we cannot have capitalism, we must have a system that works for the nation that does away with the contradictions of capitalism, we need socialism.
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>>132080847
>Democracy
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>>132080806
Then the original point that the countries being gay and liberal all being capitalistic still stands, and so therefore the observation that nationalism and capitalism being exclusive still stands.
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>>132080711
That's actually a great system, can respect that
>>132080711
Basically, that's what it seems like to me, waiting to find some differences though, or someone to explain to me the differences.
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>>132080353
if a collective does not believe in surplus "theft" then it is a capitalist collective
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>>132080806
Play with your shekels elsewhere, Shlomo.
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>>132080972
Good point, honestly just keep the civil laws enforced. Fuck all this other authoritarian bullshit. Respect.
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>>132080986
yeah you sure proved that capitalism is the cause of the immigration of brown people you fucking idiot
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>>132080901
All socialism is marxist, even national socialism. Marxist in the fact that marxs observations and commentaries on capitalism are believed. Not marxist in conclusions tho. As nationalism and orthodox marxism do not complement each other.
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>>132080904
don't do that

>>132080930
>hey guys, the priority of your lives needs to be family and motherland
>now use all of your hard-working money to buy stupid stuff so the free market keeps working.

Self-centered enrichment opposes nationalism. It's that simple.
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>>132081090
wow great argument faggot
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>>132080981
Nothing in this world is perfect

I'd rather be in a free society than a pure one

I don't have to associate with undesirables if I don't have to.

Just sayin
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>>132075991
NATIONAL JUDAISM THREAD
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>>132081151
>all capitalism is consumerist

you're an idiot
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>>132081146
>i have never heard of prussian socialism: the post
Just fuck off already you Molymeme niggers.
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>>132080977
this
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>>132081170
>Nothing in this world is perfect

not with that attitude
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>>132081192
All capitalism will inevitably degenerate into consumerism as a society that allows capital accumulation can only incentivize consumption as that advances the riches of the elite.
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>>132079024
Capitalism requires and promotes foreign outsourcing of jobs, and non national control of the industry.
It cannot be nationalist because of that.
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>>132075991
You've renamed Fascism claim to want a free market and then attempt to restrain it with the state. Next you'll tell me that this government will issue currency rather than allow for free market money and banking
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>>132075991
Holy shit someone who shares those opinions with me... there is truly hope in the world, if atleast a little...
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>>132081325
You realize that fascism is also against a private central bank issued currency right? Look up the Reichsmark you dumb fuck.
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>>132080472
Any focus away from people and into 3rd parties we oppose, we are only focussed on the people not on materials or ideologies.

National Socialism is a social movement, we base it on the people, on their souls and eyes.

Murder is anti social and illegal as is murdering ither peoples of the world.
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>>132080930
I actually did in one of my first replys.

Stop throwing the word magic around, you jester.

It is a mechanical process. Offer economic incentice to combat amd compete against pollution. Naturally, idealistic and driven capitalist will try to create an industry, an energy one, to compete against coal and crude oil. The thing is making it economically feasible, so you have to wait until RnD finds a green energy source superior to oil and coal. Look, China is cleaning up its act, because of free market dynamics; there is my emperical evidence.

I have given you enough proof. Now sell me some tulips at discont since I invested my time into you.
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>>132081120
Capitalism is globalistic. Nothing matters but the ability to produce a good or service. When you hear people going "they do the jobs that we dont want to do" they arent being liberal. They are being capitalistic. Capitalism encourages cheap labour and so will work at the expense of the natives of a country, as cheap foreign labour is preferential to the uppity native working class. Being the worker and the capitalist want to game the system in their favour, there is no balance, if one has its way (the capitalist) the native worker loses and vice versa.
tl;dr capitalism like open borders and cheap labour
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I dont understand how so many people like capitalism. Capitalism only benefits those who are lucky from birth.
It is downright impossible to get a job without being born with some kind of advantage or inheriting a family business.
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>>132081192
The free-market that OP described would eventually become all about consumerism.
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>>132075991
>3. The Nation must respect and defend the freedom of its citizens.
You can't phrase it like that. You need to be specific about what the state can and can't do. "The Nation shall pass no tax." Not, "The Nation shall respect freedom."
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>>132081153
Because you're being purposely obtuse or you have to be stupid to actually think wealth redistribution in the context means= "I get a check in the mail from the government". The "redistributing of wealth" was because the state controlled the economy, not that they decided to tax some people and write checks.
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>>132081194
ignoring my post; the post. Marxs analysis is still used in prussian socialism, but like I said, the conclusions are different
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>>132081430
Ultimate value is not on gold or materials but on the people.
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>>132076060
9+19) Does that mean single moms on welfare could be compelled to literally whore themselves for the state in time of crisis if they lack other skills deemed efficient by the state?
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>>132081293
It advances everyone's life. If you haven't noticed the capitalist wonderland that you currently live in take a step back and take stock of the general material conditions of even the poor compared to the poor under Feudalism. I can get a chink to send me some plastic parts from China to the USA for less than it costs to order a pizza from down the street. It's like fucking magic. There's a reason the Marxists would have died waiting for the revolution if they hadn't moved the goal posts.
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>>132081477
Capitalism benefits those who are willing to work hard and put their values into the market place. Are you retarded? high IQ people generally succeed under any system, and with a completely unhindered free market there are plenty of jobs and companies compete for workers. If you start out poor, you can work your ass off, save, invest, learn to day trade, learn various other things that raise your market value, and then start a business, rise in a business, etc. The options are endless. The defeatist self sacrifice attitude will never get you anywhere in the free market.
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>>132081660
You realize that prussian socialism is basically keynesianist capitalism right? You stupid fuck?
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>>132081477
They like the fact that they have gadgets or that their car is a different a color than another car. Shame how greed has gotten to all of these people, they'd rather have all this materialistic bullshit than raise families
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>>132081092
You my boi, look up:
Thomas Sowell
Milton Friedman
James Rickards
Warren Buffet

They woke
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>>132081397
>Reichsmark
>State issued currency
>Not a free market currency


I'm sure your fascist state would be all about free banking.

You dumb fuck
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>>132081194
In the 21st century any socialism worth a damn uses Marx's analysis. It doesn't necessarily agree with Marx on everything (not even Lenin did) but it does apply Marx's analysis and methodology as necessary.

Non-Marxist socialism is like non-Darwinian biology - it's simply antiquated and not useful anymore.
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>>132081801
I love Milton Friedman but he was a monetarist which I can't support. I was a hardcore libertarian like 3 years ago, hahah, I became obsessed with the free market. Then I got really into Hoppe, then I flirted with the ideas of fascism, and now I am back to free market capitalism, etc.
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>>132081745
You arent really getting what Im trying to say. The conclusions drawn about how socialism should work are not marxist, but the tools and method of analysis is. If you cant separate the two then read a fucking book you mong.
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>>132081700
just because its better than old systems doesnt mean its a perfect system.
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>>132081801
>nigger
>jew
>actually not too bad
>jew
L M A O
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>>132081915
Marx was never right and died a capitalist. Fuck off Bolshi kike
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6r_u5fo5uc
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>>132079900
>want to peacefully live on a farm in a country where i'm not forced to die for jews, pay for niggers, or public expenditure consumerist garbage
don't know what i am, but if you argue for "authority" you are a boot licker cuck that needs to be put down.
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>>132081860
>BUT MUH FREE DUMBS
Oh I'm sure the economy will be fine when everyone and their mother trades in their own currency. Ancaps are hilarious.
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>>132081430
All that we care sbout is our people and their socialization, we oppose capitalism
that devalues hunan beings to monetary benefit and we oppose marxism that devalues human beings to materialistic definition.
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any good books or literature about natcap? Or is it just a meme?
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>>132081915
>flag
Of course. I'd expect nothing less.
>>132081945
It's ideology is influenced by Marxism in that it rejects it, yes, but in no way at all does it use the tools and methods of Marx. kys
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>>132082131
It's a JIDF meme just like this thread.
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>>132082059
Don't you want a state that will prevent children from becoming degenerates and ensure moral values?
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>>132082024
Marx was right, even if his theories are so vague that to call them a theory is kind of wrong. Doesnt necessarily mean his conclusions are right, even if his methodology was
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>>132082154
National Socislism is not influenced by Marx at all, National Socialism is inherent in nature.
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>>132081959
That's the beauty of liberalization of economies. Even half measures bring about some level of improvement. Look at Hong Kong. Not a super free place, but does have some idea of free market values and it's off the chain compared to its Host country. You'll probably never get "perfect" from where we are now, but the more steps you take to get there the better it gets and you don't need a violent revolution to do it usually
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>>132081700
You see, here's the thing. If you're going to call our current societies capitalist wonderlands you're just proving my point that capitalism is inherently hostile to nationhood - in case you haven't noticed our national identity and folk traditions have been under assault by the capitalist mode of production for quite a while now. Read Adorno.

I do not want Coca-Cola and McDonalds, I want authentic folk culture and tradition. I don't give a damn for fancy trinkets I want a strong community. Notice that in this sense the strongest countries in Europe are the ones that were once socialist, and inevitably capitalism is going to rob them of that too unless they realize the grave error they made in 1991.
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>>132078651
An imperialist system allows for a nation to maintain its national identity while still exploiting global markets. The Imperial nation is not subjecting itself to the will of a global collective.
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>>132082154
>It's ideology is influenced by Marxism in that it rejects it, yes, but in no way at all does it use the tools and methods of Marx. kys
My fucking god you're an idiot. You have no idea the difference between conclusions and methodology. God you're dumb
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>>132082131
Without a doubt a meme, but if you really want to get a close look into NatCap look into Mercantilism and also the CIA puppet Pinochet who was controlled by the (((Chicago Boys)))
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>>132082257
It's influenced by the German November Revolution (which was marxist) in that it say that it is false socialism and that the unity against it was true socialism. Therefore it is influenced by Marxism, just that it rejects it and goes against it.
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>>132081937
True, a few of his ideas don't seem to be tainted by it

A bit off topic but watch this play list, pretty much a redpill on US money

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE88E9ICdipidHkTehs1VbFzgwrq1jkUJ
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>>132082201
morality and the existence of a "state" are exactly contrary. government exists solely to traffic drugs, sex, children, and other black market degeneracy. you don't get it, you're a good goy. you think government exists because its some grand idea of protecting liberty. you're a fucking goy. learn what gematria is.
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>>132082024
>Marx was never right and died a capitalist
Clearly this man has read Marx.

Also
>Solzhenitsyn
lmao, if the Soviet Union was a tenth as evil as he said it was he would not have lived to tell his fairy tales.
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>>132082319
Conclusions: not marxist
Methodology: also not marxist
Inspiration: marxist in that it was inspired to stand against marxism.

Makes sense to you, retard?
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>>132082358
Thanks buddy, I will watch a few of these in bed in like 30 minutes.
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>>132082214
>Predicts that the proletariat will rise up in revolution against the Bourgeosie

Never happened

>Posited the value theory of labor

Profoundly blown the fuck out by every economist ever

Pic related wrote a book called "Socialism" you should check it out
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Finally a National Capitalist thread.
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>>132082453
Was also a jew just like Karl Marx. Into the trash it goes.
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>>132075991
Most of your points I agree with, but there are a few I strongly disagree on.

#4 sounds good on paper, isn't necessarily healthy for a growing economy. There's often speculation of how much debt to accept, but it's obviously way too much at the moment.

#7 is impractical in dense cities such as NYC. Also, "with no restrictions" is retarded.

#9 I think should be expanded. Germany requires civil service/conscription for a year upon reaching adulthood, regardless of war.

#14 is a slippery slope. Who decides what 'communism' is? It can be frowned upon, of course, but is dangerous to have laws like this against free speech. Europe/Canada's been making these kinds of laws lately - the whole "Islamophobia" hate speech laws.
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We need it in our constitution that only Europeans be recognized as true Americans.
Hopefully sometime within the next few decades/century we can finally get the shitskins to migrate elsewhere.
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>>132082434
>>132082453

Marxism =/= marxist analysis.

>>132082434
Conclusions : Not marxist
Methodology: Marxist.
Pro tip: If you examine economics through a lens of social relations to labour and labour to capital accumulation. Thats marxist, not necessarily marxism. Pretty damn hard to make a socialist critique of society without that lens of analysis
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>>132075991
stop it, get some help.
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>>132082480
>civic nationalism
You know that you're making yourself look worse, not better, right?
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>>132082349
Marx was a Jew, Hitler burned all marxist literature.

Nothing that Hitler did was Marxist influenced.
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>>132082288

You are romanticizing a past that never truly existed every generation does this. What is authentic folk culture to you now was pop culture then. If you want these things then buy them and create communities such as you wish to live in. Capitalism does not stop you from doing this. The sense of "community" that you so adore comes out of a collective level of suffering that you would surely revile if you had to live it yourself.
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>>132077268

JIDF detected

It is in the jewish scripture to exploit, rape and pillage all that is non-jewish.
The only path to true world peace is through the eradication of all jews.
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>>132082480
(((Civic))) Nationalism
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>>132075991
I agree with most of the tenets, but some of it sounds unnecessarily authoritarian. Besides that, capitalism without any socialism invariably results in extreme wealth disparity. (((They))) will always abuse systems like this and benefit more than the average joe. I resent socialism as much as the next fella, but a certain amount of it is absolutely necessary to temper capitalism, and ultimately avoid extreme wealth disparity (like what happened during the industrial revolution in Britain)

I maintain that basic public services like fire brigade, police force, hospitals, libraries etc should be publicly funded, as well as education.
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>>132082715
Hitler himself was anything but Marxist. His economic policy was based off of Prussian Socialism which was in turn partially inspired by marxism. Or rather, anti-marxism.
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>>132082302
The non-white population is too big to set working colonies in the age of imperialism the nonwhite population was a lot smaller compared to the white one. Besides when colonies were established, no market existed, with the current system they can easily gain access to resources so they don't need it. The goal should be to teach people to use the resources within their means not keep it's addiction to new ones.


>>132082378
Just because our goverment is bad doesn't mean the government is inherently evil. If it valued were the protection of its people rather than making money then yes it would be a lot different.
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ITT: natsocs show their true form
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>>132082408
> Be Marx
> Get old and move to Capitalist London
> Participate in the financial exchange there

Marx was a leech even on his friends, and never worked a day in his life, why anyone would take any direction from commie Santa claus is beyond me.
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>>132082922
the people shilling for capitalism are not natsocs
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>>132083012
ok
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>>132079759
>certain drugs cost under two dollars to make but are sold for 170 dollars, not exactly fair to the public.
The second pill cost two dollars to make, the first one costed millions to develop
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>>132082922
You get the gas too buddy
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>>132075991
Been waiting for this General thread. We can have the constitution and a dictatorship at the same time right? Fuck democracy.
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>>132083204
No as in sold for 2 dollars. There is therefore no reason for the price jack other than opportunism
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>>132083224
Why are Ancap memes all based from ideologies they claim to hate? Be it free helicopters or gas chambers, neither fall in line with their ideology. Even commies have their gulags and mass starvation. How sad.
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>>132075991
While I understand the appeal of such a system, as a libertarian I can't support it in good conscience
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>>132083271
America isn't even that democratic, to begin with. Most places are either solid red or solid blue, close races are won by fundraising, and about 7 states pick the president.
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sounds pretty cool anon
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>>132083399
As a burger I can confirm
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>>132083320
Becuase ((Murray Rothbard's))) ideology was never implemented by serious minded people. Ancaps are mostly fantasizing about a utopian society, they aren't trying to solve real world problems like their own race losing it's homeland.
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>>132082024
>>132083224
After reading your posts in this thread I'm a little confused. Why do you post as a Nazi in one post and say you want to kill Nazis in another? Are you just shitposting?
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>>132075991
>2. The Nation must observe and if needed protect the free market where and when it can.

One can argue that free market inevitably leads to globalism. There's always gonna be someone outside offering a better deal and the market ain't free if the state says you can't do business with them.
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>>132083574
are you kidding? ancaps solved the problem of money so well that bitcoin is over dollar parity several thousand times
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>>132075991


Israel is Arming ISIS & AlQaeda to Conquer Syria & Stop Iran Pipeline - Alex Jones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssn27xOBdG0

Alex Jones Exposes Jew Control of US Government & 9/11 Mossad Involvement : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONUzQ4q-Amk

Israel using AlQaeda to Kill Syrians & Overthrow Assad - Alex Jones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0zt9aCnx14

Alex Jones says Talmud Judaism is Satanism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_zRglOPt7E


Caller Exposes Mossad 9/11 Involvement on Alex Jones Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPKRQDadIjQ

State Dept Official: Israel & Saudi Arabia created ISIS with CIA - Dr Steve Pieczenik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isfJ0xbXwjw


https://www.infowars.com/dancing-israelis-arrested-on-911-later-sued-the-govt-but-lost-their-case/

https://www.infowars.com/more-israeli-mossad-connections-to-911/

https://www.infowars.com/govt-insider-confirms-israels-role-in-911-attacks/

https://www.infowars.com/us-mossad-played-roles-in-911-event/

https://www.infowars.com/militarization-of-police-in-america-trained-by-mossad/
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>>132082743
Actually I'm not, indeed this is something I would criticize non-socialist nationalists for. I don't like the idea of imagining a sterile past and using it as something that is taxidermized and only ever brought out for tourists and special occasions like "folk culture" is now. I think culture is something to be lived and participated in by the folk, not something to be sold to you as is the case with pop culture and what we're told is "folk culture". I don't want to restore anything necessarily, I want to create a climate in which all people can and do participate in and create their cultures as it once was before the capitalist mode of production and as it will be again under the socialist mode of production.

>What is authentic folk culture to you now was pop culture then
It's not, again read Adorno. All that mythology, song, dance, dress and bardic tradition that nationalists revere wasn't something that was perpetuated and confined to a professional culture industry as is the case with pop culture. Pop culture is unique to capitalism as it is only capitalism that has a commodified, industrialized approach to culture - it is a necessity of capitalism to behave it this way as it deprives the folk of their ability to participate in culture through alienation and trying to work them for all that they are worth rather than letting them devote their efforts to the arts - any of the ones that do either go into poverty or are recruited into the professional culture industry where their artistic talents are directed and dominated by businessmen.

>Capitalism does not stop you from doing this.
Not directly, but capitalism is systematically hostile to these kinds of communities as capitalism seeks to expand and dominate their entire planet by nature of its inherent workings. Capitalism must at all times be expanding as it is predicated on constant growth.

1/2
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>>132082743
>>132083806
>The sense of "community" that you so adore comes out of a collective level of suffering that you would surely revile if you had to live it yourself.
And the capitalist system you live in is sustained by innumerable suffering all across the world, but the great thing about revolutionary terror is that it ends - capitalism requires perpetual suffering to survive. It can only be ended with the end of capitalism.
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>>132083625
he correctly identified fracture points and is attempting to crack consensus
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>>132083721
>a currency made for nothing but illegal drug trade is worth higher than a currency used for absolutely everything else
Great job we sure showed those nahtzees amirite
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>>132082973
>If you participate in society you must condone the workings of a society
Or in other words
>Why don't my political opponents starve themselves to death?
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>>132083828
>capitalism requires perpetual suffering to survive
source? that just sounds like a string of buzzwords, as well as a moral claim. where are you deriving your morals from?
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>>132083851
>a currency made for nothing but illegal drug trade
I remember this being listed as a reason why it would never be more than a dollar
you sure showed me freshman
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>>132083721
Bitcoin is on the brink desu.
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>>132083980
>currency trades only high value items
>is therefore worth high value
>currency trades basically everything
>therefore also accounts for its lowest common denominator
Good job
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>>132083625
Nazis don't listen if you don't fly their flag.
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>>132083574
I don't understand the appeal of any kind of racial nationalism. Why should I care if people look like me later on? Besides, white women are spoiled and Mexican women make the best mothers
>cuck hurmdur
There is nothing cuck-ish on having a preference in women
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>>132083904
>Why don't my political opponents starve themselves to death?

Good question it seems to be about all they are good at doing.
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>>132083281
No, drugs cost money to research and develop. 2.6 million on average according to https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cost-to-develop-new-pharmaceutical-drug-now-exceeds-2-5b/

Once developed, the evil pharmaceutical companies have to recuperate the cost of developing them, hence the mark up.
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>>132084183
Enjoy your IQ 90 halfbreeds, fuckwit
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>>132083911
>Source
Look at the label on the neck of your shirt.
Now look at working conditions in that country.

> as well as a moral claim
Is it?
Suffering is something that can be identified, and in a loose sense quantified. Identifying that suffering is there and the scale of it is not necessary a moral claim - saying that this suffering is bad is a moral claim.

Which I would, but that's external to my argument. My argument is that it's hypocritical to condemn the suffering in socialism whilst ignoring the suffering that capitalism is predicated on.
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>>132084183
It is the only appeal you kike, race is the only truth
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>>132084183
Agreed mate.

People care about the appearance of the bottle less than its contents.
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>>132084217
Met lots of toothless idiot whites, never met a mature Mexican that was unbearably stupid. Live in a town with approximately half and half whites and Mexicans
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>>132084183
Evolutionary biology is real. That's all you need to know, also as an ancap you should understand that some groupings of people will not allow certain groups in hoppe
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>>132075991
>1. The Nation must be preserved in order to stop globalism and communism.
>2. The Nation must observe and if needed protect the free market where and when it can.
These two counteract each-other capitalism is gloablism

>5. The Nation must defend its borders from immigration, invasion or open attack.
>6. The Nation must defend and define citizenship. The Nation must not allow non citizens to have rights equivalent to citizens. Only through civic service or birthright can one become a Citizen.
These two counteract each-other only those of your race are citizens

>10. The Citizen can vote for leadership, only the citizen has this right. Government officials and non citizens may not vote.
(((DEMOCRACY))) are you even trying at this point. Give power to the media and the stupid masses. Good goy
>12. The Citizen can trade freely for any good or service and the Nation may not interfere with said exchange unless it is a clear and direct threat to the Nation.
So exactly like national socialism right

Also 20 counteracts 12
20. Regulation of free exchange can only be discussed in accordance with the State, only when a threat to the safety of the Citizens and Nation can be objectively proven, and may only be implemented temporarily.


>17. The market must be allowed to work freely, interpersonal, interstate and internationally.
(((Internationally))) Not nationalism, good goy Chinese imports are good for the local workers.

ITT: people who never read any of the Nazi's economic polices and actually believe they were socialists, and people not redpilled on capitalism and how it destroys cultures and nations
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>>132084234
Race is only real to an extent. You nazis are obsessed with preserving the white race but the truth is that most Caucasian traits are recessive and evolution will eventually make everyone brown-ish
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>>132084454
>anecdotal evidence is proper evidence
Truly the kind of thing an Ancap would say.
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>>132083828
Even a sweatshop is a step up from the subsistence agrarian labor or utter destitution people would be experiencing otherwise you have to compare apples to apples here. Hong Kong, again, used to be a sweatshop city and now its a finance center once capital was allowed in to the place. Socialists seem to think that everyone should be rolling around in BMW and living in mansions before we can declare "equality" achieved. Utopia isn't happening Schlomo, and no one is going let you be dictator.

Capitalism has objectively improved the material conditions of more people globally than any socialist planning scheme ever did and we haven't even gone full bore Capitalism yet.
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>>132084459
Biology is a soft science not as concrete as math and physics. Gtfo larper. Capitalists do not care about racial or social consequences. Stop being jealous, loss the tribalism, and grow an IQ.
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>>132084226
>.....Conditions in that country
see
>>132084659
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>>132075991
sounds like statist claptrap
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>>132084405
I mean more

The cattle folk care more about apperances
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>>132084613
Personal experience is good enough for my personal choices, although as a nazi you can't handle other people's personal choices if they're not the same as yours, along with anything else about others that isn't identical to you
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>>132084199
except that they were sold at 2 dollars previously, so the company obviously made the decision that they could still make a profit at 2 dollars, however when the demand increased they jacked up the price to 170 dollars
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>>132084600
Evolution depends on variety and value, as does the free market. A pure and perfect white race would be the ultimate result of capitalism applied to biology. Scientists call this evolution. Unfortunately the Jews have been using disgenics to undo evolution similar to how they use socialism to destroy economies.
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>>132082843
We can adapt Imperialism to the modern economy. We no longer need actual colonies, we can exploit resources in foreign lands by proxies. For example, we could have came out better in the Iraq war economically. All we would have had to do was simply tie our foreign and military aid to the regime we established, directly to their oil production. They want to survive with our assistance, they pump us the oil. It wouldn't even have to be that exploitive, we could have just upgraded their fifty year old Russian refineries to modern American ones and kept the difference in production. No real colony, not relinquishing national control to a global collective, and bring home a valuable resource to improve the standard of living in our capitalist nation.
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>>132085131
thats called neo-colonialism. It already exists
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>>132084659
Here is how you're missing the point, and how this very common argument in defence of sweatshops always misses the point. The criticism is that capitalism structures itself in such a way where your only options are backbreaking labour or death for these people. The fact that working in a sweatshop is marginally better than being homeless is true, no one would dispute this. The criticism against capitalism is that for these people the only possibilities are horrible labour or homelessness.

We are not saying that their workplaces should not exist - we are saying that they should control them.

>Capitalism has objectively improved the material conditions of more people globally than any socialist planning scheme ever did and we haven't even gone full bore Capitalism yet.
In terms of pure numbers? Probably. In terms of efficiency? I would not think so- the USSR went from borderline feudal backwater to second largest industrial superpower on the planet in just a few decades. In terms of efficiency central planning is demonstrably the king - it's no coincidence that private companies are centrally planned.
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>>132076393
this here

and if youre not a natonalist gtfo /pol/
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what about them cryptos though
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>>132084900
My bad, I see your line of argument usually referring to drugs that still haven't recovered their r&d cost, and assumed that's what you were doing.
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>>132000000
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>>132077685
CAPITALISM IS A ECONOMIC SYSTEM NOT A POLITICAL IDEOLOGY!!
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>>132085758
*sniff* Thats where you're wrong kiddo *sniff*
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>>132085015
>biology+capitalism=pure white race
Explain
>Jews
This jew shit gets pretty ridiculous on this board. Yes, jews have been known to exploit economies, but there is more at work in the world pulling the strings than just the jews. You can't call me a kike because I don't think Isreal should exist and I am aware that a jewish elite exists, I just think the theories get out of hand, such as in this case
>socialism destroys economies
We can agree here for sure
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>>132085758
>leaf
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>>132079358
commies aren't ppl tho
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>>132075991
LITERALLY HAVING A FUCKING SHEKEL SYMBOL AS YOUR FLAG.

Absolutely Degenerate.
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Hey Natsocs, No need to fight us over our ideology. In a NatCap world, you can exist aswell. Natsoc's are greatest ally
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Although Natcap's let's get rid of the civic nationalism, atleast have segregation or some shit. You don't want your women to get POO'd do you?
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>>132086497
>You can trust me, goyim. I promise I'll never try to subvert you.
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>>132086600
Your ideology isn't even a real thing. Also Marx was a jew.
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>>132086497
Oh fuck, wrong CIA pic
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>>132086635
So were most libertarian economists. Who cares if they're Jewish if they've got good ideas?

>Your ideology isn't even a real thing.
Says who?
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>>132086636
hey goys, look communism is totally not jewish, join communism to fight the jews goyim!
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>>132086735
Yes, good goy! fight ebil capitalism! Join Communism and fight for a greater isra- i mean greater nation!
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>>132084849
>personal experience is good enough for me to make racemixed IQ 90 halfbreeds
Alright, go throw your genetics in the trash. Not my problem.
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>>132086737
Capitalism is literally the most Jewish thing ever.
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>>132086842
yes good goy, keep worshipping hitler, He was the father of isra-i mean destroyer of joos!
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>>132086831
>Communists
>Israel
Have you not noticed what kind of economy Israel is and who Israel's greatest allies are?
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>>132086856
Karl marx was a jew
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>>132086856
Strasserism is also Jewish you dumb fuck. Strasser literally spent half his time whining about Hitler being anti-semitic.
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>>132080270
conspiracy theories get you no where
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>>132086923
Capitalism is what made the Jews so rich.
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>>132086903
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Soviet_Union
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>>132086897
Holocaust is a lie and Israel was made by the Balfour Agreement. Try again.
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>>132075991
>The Citizen may request a fair trial for accused wrongdoings.
You mean: The citizen is guaranteed a fair trial for accused wrongdoings.

This is essentially the USA without most of its socialist BS.
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>>132086961
communism is literally (((their))) invention. soviets made anti semitism illegal
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>>132086929
NazBols and Strasserists are two different but somewhat related ideologies.
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>>132087015
So hitler was a shit leader then. he didn't kill 6 million. Can we get behind a leader who actually did kill kikes?
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>>132087041
Sure thing you commie fuckface. Keep telling you and your jewish ideology that. And while you're at it fuck off to /leftypol/
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>>132075991

If this is satire, it's fucking gold. Keked and saved
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>>132075991
>3. The Nation must respect and defend the freedom of its citizens.
Sounds good
>9. The Citizen can be drafted to civil service or military action in time of war.
Get fucked you stupid cunt. So long as the state is allowed to ship you off to war you aren't free. National Capitalism is like Natsoc boot-licking but with better economics
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>>132087098
God sometimes i do wish the NatSoc's would come back and kill every last commie.
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>>132087086
Oh yeah, let's look for a libertarian one that'll kill the jews. Oh wait, that violates the precious fucking NAP which is incidentally a Jewish invention. What a twist!
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>>132087038
Capitalism is literally the source of their power. Without the capitalist mode of production Jews would not run the world. Indeed Jews were pioneers of capitalism in their early adoption of modern banking.
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>>132087145
Hitler didn't kill a single kike, what a shit leader.
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>>132087197
Stalin was a jew and he had all the power. Nat bol btfo
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>>132087201
Libertarians didn't kill a single person. At least Hitler had commies shot during the Night of Long Knives.
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>>132087098
I'm /leftypol/ and regular /pol/ at the same time.

>>132087138
More like get killed by commies (again)
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>>132087223
Stalin wasn't jewish, his advisors were. Lenin and Trotsky were jewish.
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>>132087223
>Stalin was a Jew
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>>132087242
Nah hitler didn't kill anyone, he was a good goy.
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>>132087251
So you belong on /leftypol/ and shill for communism on /pol/. Good job, now fuck off. Go join the retarded finn and spaniard in commie hell.
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>>132087260
Lenin wasn't Jewish either. Even by Nuremburg laws he's a goy.
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>>132087322
LMAO
Don't make me laugh, mischlings are still jews, they're just given the opportunity to water down their filthy blood.
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>>132087322
Answer me this, Was, or was not Karl Marx a jew?
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>>132075991
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>>132087322
Karl Marx, Founder of comemeism, was a filthy kike. If the Natsoc's don't get to you first, We will.
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>>132087321
>So you belong on /leftypol/ and shill for communism on /pol/
Yeh boi.
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>>132087459
Yes goy! shill for the regime that made Anti Semitism illegal! Oh and answer my question, Was Karl Marx a Jew?
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>>132079030
Now all you see is a 69
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>>132075991
Oh and Op, NatCap goes by a different name. It is called Capitalist Fascism. It was what Pinochet was.
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>>132086842
>racemixed
Literally it doesn't matter if people look just like me, I can handle differences
>IQ 90
Actual IQ of nazis who base their judgments on faulty statistics rather than actually experiencing the people they claim to be superior to
>halfbreeds
What is this fucking Harry Potter? A human is a human and if you find another human cute that's a sign that they're good for procreation right there
>throw your genetics in the trash
What I'd be doing by procreating with a bitchy spoiled uninteresting white (or black) woman
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>>132087354
Not necessarily, it depended on how mixed they were. Of which Lenin would not be considered a Jew as he was only 1/4th Jewish, neither a Jew by religion nor married to a Jew.

>>132087381
By Nurembarg laws yes, by Rabbinic law no.
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>>132087657
>actual IQ of nazis
K E K
E K E
K E K
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>>132087526
I already said he was earlier, dumbass.

>>132086735
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>>132075991
This is the best ideology
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>>132087657
>A human is a human and if you find another human cute that's a sign that they're good for procreation right there
LMAO
Mixedrace children suffer from more health problems
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/

Racemixing leads to outbreeding depression & pairings of non-complementary traits.

A massively well-funded study of over 100,000 schoolchildren found that “Adolescents who identify themselves as mixed race are at higher health and behavior risk than those of 1 race.” Indeed, even when controlling for education, socioeconomic status, and other factors, there is an across-the board higher rate of health risks amongst mixed race adolescents than mono-racial adolescents.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/

One study found that White-Asian mixes had a 2x higher rate of being “diagnosed with a psychological disorder, such as anxiety, depression or substance abuse.”
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-08/uoc--baa081108.php

A study on Black-White mixes in agreement found that ”When it comes to engaging in risky/anti-social adolescent behavior, however, mixed race adolescents are stark outliers compared to both blacks and whites.” This holds true despite being raised in similar environments to mono-racial children.
http://www.msu.edu/~renn/RHE-_mixed_race.pdf
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>>132087657
>>132088050
The average rate of success for mixed race couples is around half that of same race couples, 0.127 compared to 0.213.
http://www.jstor.org/stable/4145377

There is evidence that the more similar the two people are, the happier their marriage tends to be.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/019188699190057I

A study in Iceland showed that 3rd cousin marriages are the most fertile and successful. Suggesting that mating within one's ethnic/racial group would be more beneficial than outside of one's ethnic/racial group.
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/319/5864/813.abstract

One study showed that people tend to find their own face when morphed into the opposite sex most attractive, even when he/she doesn't know it's his own face, strongly suggesting that people typically prefer those who look like themselves, in other words their own racial/ethnic group.
http://www.psyc.nott.ac.uk/research/vision/jwp/papers/pentonvoak1999.pdf
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>>132087657
>>132088050
>>132088137
One study on the craniofacial morphology in White-Amerindian mixed race individuals found that over half of the 52 shape variables deviated from the mathematical average completely shattering the above argument.
http://majorityrights.com/images/uploads/spanish.indian.pdf

The neurotransmitter oxytocin "makes people more co-operative, benevolent, loyal, generous and trusting of others. It is involved in the parent-child bond - new mothers and fathers have raised levels of oxytocin. Production also increases when people hug and when they have sex and, recent research suggests, when they receive psychological warmth." However, oxytocin has been alleged to "foster racism."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/jan/30/bright-ideas-oxytocin-hormone-racism

The study found that "intergroup bias that fuels prejudice, xenophobia, and intergroup violence… Which maybe modulated by brain oxytocin." This suggests that the instinctual desire to pursue the interests of one's own ethnic group to further ensure the existence of one's people is linked to racial bias, coinciding with the observation that diversity is a weakness, not a strength.
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2011/01/06/1015316108

One study found that during the menstrual cycle when women have a higher likeihood of conception, racial bias is increased, especially when the likeihood of sexual intercourse was increased; "increased conception risk was positively associated with several measures of race bias. This association was particularly strong when perceived vulnerability to sexual coercion was high."

>Although egalitarians suggest that only a racist would consider race when it comes to reproduction and mate choice, this study observed a general, innate tendency to prefer one's own race especially when most likely to be impregnated.
http://www.cdnresearch.net/pubs/private/racebias.pdf
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cool, another fucking /general/ to clog up the board
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>>132087867
>list of politicians with IQs typical of most high ranking politicians
I'm assuming that you base your assessment of Mexican IQ based on a poll of Mexican citizens, some of whom lack the opportunity to go to school, while to prove that nazis are all smart you showed me a list of men who were obviously formally educated but grew up in a racist echo chamber. Talk to a Hispanic who received a formal education, you will soon see that such arguments about IQ by skin color aren't valid. But to entertain the argument, I'd sure like to see an average IQ of modern nazis and white nationalists, because you may find to your dismay that you don't quite measure up to the unjust authoritarian leaders you all seem to idolize
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>>132075991
State capitalism is an oxymoron.
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>>132083399
>America isn't even that democratic to begin with
But we have elections every 2, 4, and 6 years. You can say the elections are shit but it does give the people an opportunity to remove politicians, as has happened many times even in the last 5 years. In a dictatorship there would be no way to affect the government outside of violent uprisings.
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>>132088150
While you have good research here, I find a fatal flaw in that this is all based on either statistics, which don't really account for lots of factors, especially in something as abstract and complicated as a romantic relationship, or based on hormonal tendencies, which, correct me if you feel that I'm wrong, often contradict conscious, rational thought, especially when armed with the knowledge of such things
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>>132088629
>t-they were smart, b-but raycisms!
K E K
Go back to plebbit faggot, it's where you belong
They even have a subreddit for your kind
https://www.reddit.com/r/ancap
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>>132075991
>The Nation must not allow non citizens to have rights equivalent to citizens. Only through civic service or birthright can one become a Citizen.
just black my country up
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>>132089004
The idea is that hormones are exactly what fuels intergroup bias you dumb shit. And what are hormones? Oh right, an unchangeable unavoidable fact of reality and therefore an essential part of human existence.

In other words, if you want to be purely rational it's best that you stop being human and kill yourself right away.
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>>132076436
ᛞᛟ ᛁᛟᚢ ᚲᚾᛟᚹ ᚺᛟᚹ ᛏᛟ ᚱᛖᚫᛞ ᚱᚢᚾᛖᛋ?
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>>132088137
>similar people are happier together
That's really a personal preference, and if Plato is anyone to be trusted then it's much healthier to be with someone who is opposite in certain ways
>People tend to like their own face
Again that's all preference, and although I can see the truth in it because I almost always find black women to be ugly, a cute face is a cute face and at that point the reasons for white nationalism are getting petty
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>>132089402
>a philosopher from several thousand years ago is more accurate than scientific studies done today
This is borderline (You) tier.
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>>132089109
If you think resisting superficial, back of the mind, irrational urges is grounds for me to kill myself, surely this debate is futile.
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>>132089659
>resisting the very chemicals that govern every single action and thought you have including your lust for shitskins is good
WEW, logic says that continuing your own genetic purity (unless you're already a halfbreed) is better for children therefore you should breed in your race rather than fucking anything that walks.
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>>132089010
>go back to plebbit
I only use /pol/ for online political discussion. In any case, telling someone to leave rather than try and debunk their argument only proves that authoritarians such as nazis can't be trusted with society lest you bring us back to the gestapo ways
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>>132089890
>MUH EBIL GESTAPO
Topkek, cry harder you social leftist. I already trashed your racemixing gibberish as I've trashed it so many times before.
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