Trump Overrules Cabinet, Prepares To Unleash Global Trade War

>>132074051
China was a good boi, didn't do nuffin!

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>>132074051

And all of the shills will claim

>"b-but China is totally gonna destroy America now"

Not realizing that no one will buy shitty Chinese knock offs in a competitive marke

>>132074051
I sense 22 people that need to be removed from his cabinet, and have outed themselves as globalist shills. The world does not need the US, and the US does not need the world. Its time we part ways, and live in our own homes. We can be good neighbors, invite eachother over for a barbecue...but trying to sleep in the same bed is fucked up.

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>>132074051
>tfw trump does something for us

>>132074051
>but since one of the three is named Donald Trump, it was case closed.
i cant disagree with this

>>132074051
But my economics textbook says that tariffs cause inefficiencies and harm domestic consumers??!!?!!?

>>132076302
(((textbook))) we get it leaf.

>>132076302
Written by a jew

>>132076302
what good are cheap goods if you have no job and no income to buy them.
there seem to be practical limits to comparative advantage.

>>132076487
well it looks like you need to go get a fucking job then stupid nigger.

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>>132074051

>>132074051
20 top officials don't know how to win. SAD!

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>>132074051
>tariffs
>only in the double digits

If you niggers ever even looked at what tariffs other countries put on american products you would be surprised that we havent done our own earlier and at the same rates.

China has like a 500% tariff on everything made in America, regardless of what the product actually is. And the EU is no different really.

>3 in favor

Trump, Bannon, and...

>>132074051
Glad Trump doesn't let these guys lead him down the road of the cuckservative. Finally a president with balls.

>>132075071
You're retarded that is already happening.

>>132076725
Trump again.

>>132074051
Trumps doing what ever he can to prop up this shitshow. Its not going to work though so why not just call out our real problems.

>>132074051
Let the shills spam this and think it's a bad thing.

This gets me rock fucking hard.

also you fuckers realize that almost everything you use has something in it that was made overseas right literally almost fucking everything is going to get more expensive as a result

>>132076725
Trump, Bannon and Miller, duh

>>132075071

Walmart and amazon say you're full of shit

>>132076487
Also, what good are cheap goods if they need to be replaced every year, cause money to exit your country, and put your own people out of work? It's not that hard to imagine a scenario where you get a net positive either financially or in your average quality of life.

>>132076852
two scoops and now two votes when will he stop!

>>132074051
what are the odds of section 4 of the 25th amendment (president gets removed when majority of cabinet declares he's unfit) getting invoked?

>>132076931
I don't care. As long as it's made american, I'll pay.

>>132077045
What does removing Trump accomplish? Nothing. All these politicians are tools of the status quo.

>>132074051
It's been a while since Trump has done something right. I approve of this even if it makes the Yen stronger and hurts our exports, since the filthy Chinese needs to be challenged.

>>132076931

Oh no.... people won't be able to buy as much cheap shit as they have in the last couple of decades, it's the end of the world.

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>>132074051

This is some good fucking news. Looking forward to seeing this unfold in the coming weeks. Maybe we can see an end to this low energy movement of $15/hr minimum wage.

Gib the 22 names

>>132077228
I have a feeling (((they're))) waiting to turn on him once as soon as they no longer find him useful
this would allow them to make room for Pence

>Un-named sources
>Un-named "cabinet members" save for the VP
>No video
This reeks of fakenews and you're a faggot for even wasting our time with it
I actually want international tariffs and you can still go fuck yourself for helping the MSM perpetuate lies

>>132074051
I support this except we should strengthen our ties with Japan and the UK, we could create a Pacific-America-Atlantic trade deal unheard of. Include SK for good measure.

>>132076588
is that Shinzo?

Are Trump and Shinzo becoming best brahs?

>>132076693
They price hike everything we fuckin export regardless of what it is. Even fucking OJ gets hit with it
Tariffs are also how politicians steal most of their money

>>132076931


Trump voters don't give a shit about how much they will lose and suffer, as long as brown people somewhere else suffer more.


inb4: "WTF I LOVE BUYING AMERICAN NOW"

and "CHINA MAKES CHEAP SHIT NO-ONE REALLY WANTS TO BUY"

>>132076931
American can produce literally every resource known to man save for Lithium(but we're actually working on fixing that)
There isn't a good damn thing we need from the rest of the world
Suck my dick

>>132077894

>American can produce literally every resource known to man save for Lithium(but we're actually working on fixing that)

China will have a monopoly on rare earth, they already almost do.

We're too focused on oil to do anything about it.

Maybe we will get quality American made products again

>>132076931
Not me I'm posting on a Mac

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TRADE WAAR

Let 'er rip. May god have mercy on your soul if you are not an american citizen.

>>132074051
MAAAAAAAAAAADMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNN

>>132077667
This.

Zerohedge is confirmed fakenews.

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YAAAAAAASSSSSSSS KING SLAY!

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

>>132077667
You're right. This does have just as much credibility as the Russia story. It's just nice to hear something positive for once recently.

>>132077957
>China will have a monopoly on rare earth
>Rare earth
>We're too focused on oil
We have more oil than literally everyone except for Canada, we are obsessed with making everyone else use their oil and then getting to ask any price for them to be able to buy ours

>>132074051
>all the leftist hashtagfreetibet
>also all leftist, muh China, trade war bad for US.

>>132076588
Only two people are loyal to country and trump both are riht behind Trmp in this pic

Bannon

Flynn (his Turkey lobbying was surprising though)

Everybody else will backstab. Trump already said if Flynn is absolved he will hire him again. Let's poke him on twitter about this.

>>132078394
So how is it good for the US if your domestic prices go up AND your businesses lose access to foreign markets?

>>132078327
Have you not been paying attention?
Zero can have good articles but he's also borderline autistic and overtly apprehensive so he jumps on stories before letting them unfold to see if they're a nothing urgent or no

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>>132075071
>no one will buy shitty Chinese knock offs in a competitive market

True.

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>>132074051
Muh >china

>>132078461


>Flynn loyal to the US

F A N F I C

>>132078483
Because the domestic prices wont go up, at least not on the long term. Short term yeah maybe, but we almost entirely import "junk" goods from China, which we could easily produce here. Producing them here would raise the GDP per capita, and thus improve the quality of life overall. A lot of people don't understand that the rules of supply, and demand apply to the job market as well.

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>>132074051
get some

>>132074051

News like this make me giggle with glee.

I love Bannon.

>>132078483
,also "access to foreign markets" is a silly thing to bring up. We don't export much anymore, because most nations are either too poor to buy, or have such high tariffs on us, that domestic goods there have an incredible market advantage.

Guys guys

Tariffs, automation, american energy sales, tax cuts for rich so companies are incentivized to come here for production, privatized healthcare, min wage hike. What does it all mean? Artificial eco boost while desperately holding onto wealth in a broken money system. International Corporations are bleeding us dry and all these bandaid solutions do is prolong the inevitable crash.

There is no way we can keep on this path and compete with developing nations who not only have the man power but will work dirt cheap. The moment we sold off our corporations and production for short term profits and investments the country was doomed. Wall street is going to sell and the depression will set in like you have never witnessed before. America can no longer hold off against the developing world, we can no longer strong arm intellectual profits.

The only solution to come together and hold these corporations accountable for their theft. They hold trillions which normally would be taxed back into the economy providing the means for people to, receive healthcare and wage increases like our country was intended to function.

Everytime you buy something from walmart you are contributing to this countries demise. Everytime you take out a loan our debt increases and thus lead to more crippling interest.

AMERICA IS BEING BLED DRY.

>>132077760

The first leader Trump met with was Abe. China is fucking up Japan in the South China Sea. Trump is tough on China and loves Abe and Abe loves Trump.

Japan owns something like $1.9 trillion of our debt and uses it as leverage to get us into that mess.

>>132078483
>on the labor supply/demand rule
The more applicants you're competing with, the more likely it is, that you'll be getting paid less.

>>132078377

That's my point.

We're playing an old game, china is playing the future.

>>132079425
We need to be moving to nuclear power. Not this stupid hippy solar/wind shit, or old school fossil fuels.
>rare earth, mostly meaning fissionable matter

>>132079561

>>132077957

>>132078789
>which we could easily produce here

:- Someone who doesn't know shit about manufacturing.

In China, you have entire districts filled with factories that have inter-locking dependencies that allow you to make a call and within hours have hundreds of thousands of components delivered to your doorstep and with a handful of calls have workers and engineers to put on a massive project.

The Staffing, processing and availibility of which takes a fraction of the time and cost of a similar operation in the US.

If you want a preview of manufacturing against China I would direct you to CHERRY-MX switches.

A good Cherry-MX board new floats at a bottom of $80 while its cheaper Chinese knock-offs can be had for $30. Thanks to the superiour QC and CHERRY's spotless reputation with Companies and Consumers alike enough bite that cost.

To build up something even somewhat similar in the US will take decades.

>>132079660
That's true, but China is making headway into Africa for the reason I mentioned.

>>132079337
What do you propose then genius?

>>132074051

Trump has to be VERY careful. I don't want him starting a global recession and killing nationalism forever.

>>132079732
That was retarded. China's manufacturing is almost entirely old school (put enough bodies on it) assembly lines.

>>132079765

2 birds 1 stone, anon.

>>132074051
>however the collateral damage would extend to Canada,
GOOD.

Fuck Canada up. Show us how rough the waters can be. We'll never survive in a hostile environment, our people are weak and complacent and liberal.

We need a storm here in Canada.

>>132079732
I'm not even contesting that example you gave, I'm just calling it like it is. If you look at almost every Chinese factory, it's early industrial age tech.

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China bout to get an old fashion American ass pounding

>>132079732
t. assblasted fake news consuming China lover

Go torture dogs somewhere else, we dont need your toxic products anymore.

>>132079732
>population
The number one advantage China's industry has over us, which history has proven only works for so long.

>>132074051
Yeah, the people who voted for tariffs are the only ones who aren't globalist cucks.

>>132079425
You are right. Free market capitalism is done.
>>132079791
Come together as a people and hold those accountable. Top down, bottom up.

>>132079879
>That was retarded.


Strong Argument

>China's manufacturing is almost entirely old school (put enough bodies on it) assembly lines.

There are more chinks of working age with useful STEM and Engineering degrees than there are burgers entire population. Add in the fact that the grunts work for pennies on the dollar and the laws are almost non-existent for protecting employees and Yes the personnel situation is a massive factor.

But you didn't read or grasp what I said (which shows how little you know about manufacturing)

Ask anyone and they will tell you that not only is the man-power situation one of note but its the factories upon factories in central disctricts that let you quickly source and deliver components for assembly. You can turn-around a project in months that would take years in the US easily.


Has nothing to do with their tech and how old it is (of which that is bullshit, depending on the factory and company in question they make enough money to get their hands on the best)

>>132079732
Chinese steel is inferior to American steel. Sure, it's cheap- but it's not durable at all and every single business that buys Chinese steel almost always regrets it and ends up paying for superior American steel.

>>132080138
>t. assblasted fake news consuming China lover

>Anything I don't like is fake news

Ask someone in manufacturing and they will tell you exactly what I said, almost verbatim

When I can make a call and have trucks and trucks drive up within hours in China and in the US it would take weeks at best? Guess where I build my factory?

I hope Trump knows what he's doing, because I don't.

Seriously though, I literally don't know how the economy works. Godspeed, Mr. President.

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>>132074051
MUH SHEKELS

YOU HAVE TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR JEWISH BUSINESSES!

SHREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>132080421

The chinks will screw you over on many deals such as steel and other things. But 1) They don't screw over other chinks 2) I was speaking small components. Who gives a shit if the steel is awful crap when you need a million screws delivered yesterday? If you check the terrible screws on anything made in China the answer is: Most OEMs don't give a fuck.

>>132080346
>That was retarded again
You painted it, as if that was my only argument, also you're failing to point out that they may have "more people with STEM/Engineering degrees", but not when you factor in what percentage of their population has of those degrees, compared to ours.
This, and you're essentially rehashing the Luddite argument, but with a shiny new paint job.

>>132080724
>They don't screw over other chinks
Americans wouldn't be inclined to screw over other Americans either. But the Chinese do in fact screw each other over and will jew you more than actual jews. It comes to a point where if someone wants honest business dealings, or shitty shady dealings that are guaranteed to make you pay and end up with a shitty product you most likely didn't fucking order.

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>USA closes up trade with allies
>China increases trade with EU , chinada and lmaoxico
>China gains global hegemony

A truely well thought out plan burgers!

>>132080803

Your argument hinged on the idea that the US could install an industrial complex and processing region "easily". Without acknowledging the decades it took and would take to build such an industrial boom your argument was flawed at its core.

>>132080346
Not only this, but almost every piece of tech China has, has been stolen from either Western Europe, or the US.
>First to patent laws=Legal industrial espionage

>>132080485
In the US, because greedy, chink-loving kikes like you are about to get fucked in the ass by tariffs lol.

Cry more faggot, your tears are delicious.

>>132080485
Every experience I've had with Chinese manufacturing has been horrible. The quality control is never there. The chinks always underestimate the amount of time an order will take. And, if, despite all that, you do have a successful product, the chinks will blatantly copy your design and sell it as their own.

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>>132080962
>Americans wouldn't be inclined to screw over other Americans either.


Oh and Trump has his ties made in Chink-land by the by

>>132076302
Bunch of bullshit. Written by globalist Jews.

Tariffs against slave states and cheaters is good business.

>>132081114
>europoors become even more poor as china sucks out cash from them instead.
enjoy it retards

>>132081114
go back to /ic/

>>132081123
Which is why our black tech is locked away never to see the light of day. Can you imagine those assblasters getting their filthy hands on it?

>>132077579
>this would allow them to make room for Pence

if Trump tweets some undefensible shit then the GOP will abandon him for Pence

>>132081117
It's not "flawed". It takes about a year to set up a factory. You've obviously never paid any attention to how fast they get built. If what you're saying was true, we would have lost WW2, because we could have never set up weapons factories fast enough to fight the war.

>>132081278
The chinese middle class will suck the shit out of their high end products

Suprisingly chinese factories are opening up in eastern europe and mexico too.

>>132081234

>Chinks screwed over a Filthy Gwailo

Standard.Operating.Procedure.

>>132076971
I dunno, the last pair of Nikes I got lasted me 6 years and I can still use them now if I want. Chinese made isn't always bad, maybe.

>>132081377
America already had those factories pre ww2 , ww2 got them back to work again

>>132079898
We need our cock sucking leadership to stop licking Euro and chink asshole.

>>132081254
Yeah, I know. I'm not going to justify that- he should rescind his products from being manufactured in China and instead let them be manufactured in the South.

>>132081254
Trump hasn't had a fashion line for years, m8. In any case, he just licenses his name on products. You think George Foreman designs grills?

>defrauded contractors out of $64 million

Anyone who has worked in construction knows how grimy some contractors can be. Paying less than the contract price is normal when the work is below the standard agreed upon.

>>132081499
Yeah we had factories with machinery to produce weaponry, that had only even been invented within a year of the war breaking out. Your argument has no logic behind it whatsoever.

>>132081377
>It takes about a year to set up a factory.


Yes, a single factory of a particular type can be setup within 12 months. That does not have a bearing on how long it takes to build an entire region of factories of several dozen types in close proximity feeding one another.


If you think that takes less than a decade you are full-on retarded.

>>132081403
you didnt prove me wrong retard.

enjoy getting your ass raped by a slave based economy.

>>132081114
GIVE FULL PICTURE

>>132081600
>factories cant be retooled
In england they used musical instrument making factories to make sten guns

>>132081536

>Trump hasn't had a fashion line for years, m8

http://www.trump.com/merchandise/signature-collection/


>Defrauding american workers is fine as long as my waifu Trump does it. Oh and it doesn't count as fucking them over against the previous quoted statement.


Cool.

>>132079337
Riddle me this, we have debt. We don't pay, banks go under, we issue American notes because we have the biggest military and fuck you world we can do what we want. Explain to me how these corporations are going to do anything against us. Oh btw we also are the biggest consumers :^) have fun selling your trinkets in Zimbabwe

>>132081718
>>132081622
If that's the case then both of your arguments are invalid. We could just retool factories to produce the essential products, and just do without non essentials. You two idiots are talking each other in circles.

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>>132081687
Ehh, I kinda doubt trump will pull through with this one, he might get impeached for this retardation

>>132081702
Sure

Also there are chinese parts even in your F35 programme apparently

http://www.cnbc.com/2014/01/03/us-put-china-made-parts-in-f-35-fighter-program.html

>>132081254
When contractors and construction workers are late on the job finish or do a shit job they dont get paid as much.

If its a contract, the only way for him to walk away with paying them less is if they broke the contract.

How do I profit of the inevitable collapse of China?

>>132081838
Making war equipment =/= making modern consumer products

>>132081856
Thats not the full picture. You know what i want.

>>132081838
>We could just retool factories to produce the essential products


Yes you |could| but you have had decades to |do| it and guess what? Few companies want to.

And again: My argument is upon the decades it would take to do. Your claim that it would be done "easily" is dogshit.

>>132079855
No we need a global recession, then commies try to take over then we can go 2.0

>>132081776
All the links are dead.

Renegotiating a contract if the work isn't completed to spec isn't fraud, you moron, it's standard practice.

>>132081856
>Ehh, I kinda doubt trump will pull through with this one, he might get impeached for this retardation
you realize washington will burn if that happens right?

you dumb kikes are so stupid.

>>132081408
Yeah, great argument you got there for keeping our manufacturing jobs in dog-boiling, backwards Chink land. Youre going win a lot of supporters with that one, Tommy Chang. Im sure your long, drawn out tl;dr posts crying about basic tariffs arent self-serving at all.

>>132074051
This is why I worked to get him elected. I want him to go mega-nuclear and leave no survivors.

>>132081948
>>132081921
Yeah the don't equal out. War equipment during a war, we can do without.

>few companies want to
Conversation ended right there. If you're so idiotic as to think that companies don't want to produce profitable products, then there's no hope for you.

>>132076302
>my economics textbook says that tariffs cause inefficiencies and harm domestic consumers??!!?!!?

Then it only covers one political theory of economics.

If economics was a science we'd be in a stable securely growing economy without a boom and bust cycle. We would have figured out how it ticks and be able to accurately predict it. A money printing machine.

But it's not.

Globalists and "free market" people (who seem unconcerned about capitalism killing monopolies but very concerned by nation state borders - go figure) have a lot riding on nobody questioning their assumptions.

>>132081876


You would |almost| have a point if Trump didn't also screw over business partners and employees in several other roles entirely outside of contract work.

You don't get to 3500 lawsuits without being an asshole that screws over workers. Meanwhile, American blue-collar workers voted en masse for him.

>>132082083
>can't* do without

>>132081948
>it would take decades to do it

m8, China was a rural country as recently as 1990. If the money is there, it's trivial to build such a manufacturing base.

The problem in the west is that our idiot leaders don't subsidize manufacturing as much as China does.

>>132082030

Its not an argument, its a known factor. The Chinks will cheat a Gwailo at any turn if you let them. So you have other Chinks work with them and then at the top you put your guys looking over their shoulder at every turn.

See: Apple

And they still photograph Apple's stuff for knock-offs even with them watching them like hawks and working them like dogs.

>>132082019
Washington will burn either way

He approval ratings are lower than nixon now no?

>>132074051
B-but muh IQ. Muh memorization and muscre memory!!!!! Ayaa how wir we conqueru the rear estate in Austraria???

>>132082101
3500 is counting the lawsuits he was a plaintiff in as well. If you look at the history of any business mogul, you'll find some disgruntled former employees. If Trump was a sleazy as you make him out to be, then nobody would work for him.

>>132082156
This.

We were manufacturing our own shit with no problems long before NAFTA, when China was just a rural, flea ridden, shithole rice field, and we can do it again.

>>132082273
>He approval ratings are lower than nixon now no?
nope, thats just jewish propaganda.

>>132082083
>If you're so idiotic as to think that companies don't want to produce profitable products


I wasn't aware that your reading comprehension is non-existent.

For your limited mind: The chasing of easy profit is exactly why few companies are rebuilding the US industrial complex. If the US shuts its doors with tariffs the majority will pivot to emerging Asian markets.

>>132082273
The polls said he wouldn't win I wouldn't trust them so readily.

>>132082273
Honestly if Trump gets impeached or worse I will have to stop going to work. I would literally not be able to stop myself from killing the mexishits I work with.

>>132076693
Chinese show up here in swarms every day just to shop. They know everything made to Chinese standards is garbage and therefore buy Japanese. It is cheaper for them to fly to Japan, shop and pay shipping back to China than to just buy in China. Not just talking clothes and trifling things; they buy air conditioners, refrigerators, washing machines, furniture etc.

>>132082409
Your argument is silly. If tariffs were put in place on imports, it would incentivize companies to bring manufacturing back to the US, not move it overseas. We're still a huge consumer of goods.

so Trump is going to end Consumerism?

he just fucking saved our society.

>>132081512
Sorry but you have more in common with the EU than the anglosphere and the anglosphere itself is compromised.
>>132081798
I believe we would drop out of the global economy as a currency leader. And the world would declare war upon us. However your plan might as well be what is going on as we are just not ready for war yet. We are at trade war stage if this article is truthful.

>>132082268
One way or a other you're going to get fucked in the end without a steady stream of bribes to the right officials.

The correct way to deal with a kleptocracy cheat like China is tariffs. Targeted and levelled to gradually encourage state side infrastructure gradually ramping up until the supply chain is replicated.

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>>132076829
>>132076956

If there were tariffs on imports, this wouldn't be the case. I've heard that nowadays, companies only save a few % by outsourcing to China.

Haven't you noticed that everything in America is shitty? Old electronics used to be nice. Now they're all plastic shit, and no one takes time to make it good. Even food quality has gone down. I love organic stuff, not because I think you get cancer or whatever, but there's quality to the food. Bagged salad is so shitty now. Companies are getting shittier and shittier with their quality, which is why little independent online shops and luxury class items for pretty much anything is showing up. Chinese already trust things like American baby formula more and go crazy to buy it, because in China it'll have lead and kill their babies.

Stuff made in America is better, period. If companies get forced to stop using shitty Chinese factories, chances are they will get better. But honestly, I think we're going to see more and more independent businesses start cutting away the market from these big corporations. The same way online news sources are starting to challenge cable news for dominance.

>>132082341
>If Trump was a sleazy as you make him out to be, then nobody would work for him.


Except that as a builder almost no-one will work with him for that exact reason.

Its why the Trump Organization has pivoted largely from building their own things and instead are primarily now into branding under the TRUMP name and managing properties.

Because any contractor that sniffs at Trump will get thousands of stories of how working for him has ruined other contractors and tied them up in lawsuits.

>>132082409
>will pivot to emerging Asian markets
So doing doing the opposite of what we're currently doing, will have the same effect as what we're currently doing? That's how idiotic your argument is. Just pathetic.

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>>132082414
>>132082388
Why not? Coal aint coming back, you are paying for the wall and many poorer republicans will get their healthcare fucked

>>132074051
yes, fuck the globe, we will win this

>>132081921
Now I'm beginning to wonder your knowledge of manufacturing.
Tons of household items are produced from military development.

China is constantly poising their land to top it all off.
Resources for production or not, China can not feed it's own population anymore. They aren't growing food like they used to, and they keep destroying or developing farm lands.

Their main advantage is man power, and basically having a slave class.

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>>132077045
They're already working on it. The Russia narrative collapsed so they're going for the Twitter offense.

>>132082569
The move to syndicated deals is a national trend. I've been considering it myself lately. If you set aside your arrogance, you might learn something.

>>132076302
>people who argue this will also argue for a minimum wage hike
lel

>>132082535
This country isn't nearly as left as Trudeau makes it appear. He is a symptom of our electoral system and the fact Harper was a globalist shithead flooding this country with more shitskins than Trudeau is.

>>132082583
>That's how idiotic your argument is. Just pathetic.


Nice string of insults, doesn't change the facts on the ground of the laughably weak state of the American Manufacturing Industrial Complex versus China's nor how few companies want to engage in the expense of rebuilding America's when they can go to Mexico, China or Africa and do it for cents on the dollar.


But you keep fucking that chicken.

>>132082268
Sounds like great people, we should totally continue to do business with them.

/sarcasm

Fucking retard.

>>132076302
The problem if we tax them at 0% and they tax us at 30+%.

What's the point if we're the only ones not putting tarriffs on shit? It's just to fuck with us.

>>132076931
deal with it nerd

Start exporting consumer goods to us and i will start buying. God bless you America you have my support for what it is worth.

>>132082662

I never spoke a single word about whether syndicated deals are bad or not. I made the known point that Trump did it because his name was nuclear as a builder.

>>132082645
Military rnd =/= Military manufacturing

Yes they did use radar technology for the microwave, but there is still a time period where iit goes from radar prototype to radar manufacturing and usage in a microwave.

The F35 is just going into production and that took almost one and a half decades

>>132082772
>String of warranted insults.
I'm not going to give you respect, when you're presenting an "argument" without even the slightest bit of common sense to support it.

>>132082618
You don't seem to understand. We don't care if coal comes back. Yes, many will lose healthcare, but they only use it because it is free and available. They WANT to lose it, because they know the minorities will lose it too and will have to either work or fucking die. We wouldn't have voted for Trump if we weren't willing to pay for the wall ourselves, but having mexico pay for it would be idea. You are completely out of touch with reality, stop warfing down every log of shit cnn feeds you.

>>132082618
I think people will be able to hang in there for a little while longer. Although you are right the clock is ticking, but people should give him more time, it's his first year.

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>>132082409
>The chasing of easy profit is exactly why few companies are rebuilding the US industrial complex. If the US shuts its doors with tariffs the majority will pivot to emerging Asian markets.

And sell to whom?

They're emerging because they sell all their shit to the west. With tarrifs they take a punch to the face and aren't "emerging" for long, at which point said investments fuck off because it's not profitable.

World economics is a victim of its own short term plans for profit. We're reaching a point where efficiency and exploiting the third world to push down prices has cost us the engines of the economy required to have anyone to buy the products.

Wages are stagnant adjusted for inflation since he 1970s but profits are rising. How come? All that profit has gone to the upper 1%. The elites. For decades they're the only ones profiting.

Meanwhile living costs have kept rising, and so's the price of essentials. This is why your grandad could afford a house and supporting a family on a non-university degree as a single income earner, and you struggle to move out before 30.

It's a death spiral. The elites can see it coming and are cashing out. The question is if you need a complete meltdown before you fucking realize they made their fortune by fleecing the rest of us.

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>>132082858
Trump still develops some properties. He just redid a golf club on NY a few years back. The profit margin on syndicated deals is a lot higher, especially when you get to license your name out.

>>132077037
two terms

>>132082569
He has no trouble getting contractors. The ones that's didn't get paid didn't do their jobs and everyone in industry is aware of that. Every single developer has situations where they don't pay or pay less than full due to incomplete or shoddy work. His hotel in Chicago was built with minimal issues, it's wholly owned not branded. That's an nearly 100 floor building. You're an idiot.

>>132082341
>If Trump was a sleazy as you make him out to be, then nobody would work for him.
Unfortunately some people need jobs since they have Family's and whatnot. I knew Carlos Slim was a huge crooked piece of shit but i needed the job and i took it, Once my position was no longer needed (it was outsourced) they tried to fuck me over and wanted me to quit, so that i could not collect unemployment and they wanted to screw me off out of a payment for firing me, they demoted me and fucked with me for a year until they had to fire me because i called a nigger a nigger and slapped him on the office, No racial charges were made everything was kept in house.

>>132082772
They're free to go overseas, but they shouldn't be surprised when their products are hit with a tariff.

>>132074051
Good, fuck the soulless Chinese.

>>132075071
>implying shitty disposable engineering and Chinese manufacture has not created an eternal race to the bottom

Even premium brands cut corners now, often using the same techniques and materials used by shitty Chinese knockoffs. You pay for the nameplate only.

>>132082912
Plenty of his voters care

>>132082920
Is he going to ruin more international relationships next year? You know he is actually managing to make China look like the responsible adult in the room right?

>>132075071
They don't make knock offs anymore.. They make many first party products and produce most of our tech man...

>>132077958
even if not

shitty American product > shitty Chinese product

>>132074051
>solve unemployment by putting people back to work in new manufacturing jobs

>$15 will never work, so those areas will die off

>throw the illegals out, so scabs cant undercut the workforce

fuck yeah

>>132083111
Nobody has liked the US for decades now. Don't pretend it's just a Trump issue. They hated us slightly less when King Nigger was in charge, but that only lasted until they realized he followed the same policies as W.

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>>132074051
This is what Trump ran on. At every rally, he talked about it.

The media wouldn't mention it. The interests they serve like the status quo. They don't want the public to know.

No other politician could talk about it.

>>132083111
You are not his voters. Do not speak for them you lying fuck.

>>132074051

I'll believe it when I see it. I don't get excited by talk.

>>132076302
The market is not taking into consideration the damage to western nations and economies. This damage is being hidden from market forces by (((debt))) and as such is treated as an externality.

When China matches western living standards and regulatory restrictions then we can talk.

>>132082947
*drops mic*

Nailed it. Outsourcing is what is killing America, just as it killed Detroit. Period.

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>>132074051
People complain that CEO incomes go up but American worker incomes don't.

That's because the income gains are going to China. This is why our wages are stagnant.

>>132082618
>Coal aint coming back
its already back, better if it dies to the market than to the government, its got 5 years left.
>you are paying for the wall
good
>and many poorer republicans will get their healthcare fucked
good, fat asses need to die, at least they vote properly.

>>132081991
wrong, people will hold it against republicans, this was actually a tougher time to inherit presidency than it was for Obama. Easier climb out of the hole than stay on top of the bubble

>>132082880
Cool, but there's more than just machine manufacturing.
We develop and manufacture new materials all the time. This often leads to new manufacturing methods as well.
A lot of stuff stuff we r&d for military use never even get's produced for the military and goes directly to the consumer market.

>>132083111
You can't help but make enemies when you're the most powerful guy in the room.

The old man might have dementia too, but i guess that does fit his country.

https://youtu.be/N3CFwkoqxIs

>>132083493
Please archive.

>>132083426
Its dumb, and china knows this by doing the research to product process more than you do.

>>132074051

This only works if Trump is going to use the U.S. Navy to stop protecting ALL shipping lanes and ONLY protect American cargo.

>>132083256
Nigger don't even fucking start with this balkanizing us vs them shit.

>>132083111
>(((international relationships)))

You mean countries are going kick and stomp their feet because they wont be able to fuck us over anymore and have our tax dollars subsidize large chunks of their quality of life? Nevermind the fact that they still hated us back then even when we used to give into that bullshit.

People voted for Trump because theyre tired of other countries dictating our lives.

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>>132074051
Back in 1992, Ross Perot talked about a giant sucking sound of jobs going south of the border to Mexico because of NAFTA.

That was 25 years ago. We see now that he was right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkgx1C_S6ls

Timestamp 1:17

GIANT SUCKING SOUND GOING SOUTH

>>132083793
Sure,leave the world stage by all means. America should have done that some time ago, but now is the perfect time..

>>132083874

Glad you agree, now get ready to lose over 50% of your "peacekeeping" fund

>>132083951
Not really, we'll just switch to buying european weapons

I dont recall us needing your funding either

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>>132083874
>it shows it's true colors

>>132084021
its*

>>132084019

Europe is second-rate compared to America in everything they do.

And where is the U.N. going to get the money to buy the weapons, America is the largest donor by far.

>>132080293
>Come together as a people and hold those accountable. Top down, bottom up.
So nothing but buzzwords and empty rhetoric? You're as bad as Bernie. No worse than Bernie, because at least he had some form of plan, even if it was retarded.

>>132084019
You need our jobs and business as a customer though. Thats what keeps your giant house of cards you call a country afloat. Without us, the economy in ching-chong goes ping-pong. Understand now?

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>>132074051
AMERICA FIRST

>>132084278
Ehhhhh, we can manage.

>>132084138
China has been eyeing that UN spot for some time now imho

Global warming is only bad for non-whites.

The U.N. is only bad for whites

>>132083572
And what do they have to show for it?
They can do product process faster. That's cute, but it doesn't matter when your products are all shit.
They don't innovate fuck all, they just steal shit from other people. Take the F35 for example.
Who knows what kind of corners they cut in production.
And they simply copied it just to copy it. It's not like it was some huge leap in fighter plane innovation. They obviously were really doing "more production process research" there.

And you still haven't addressed the points from here >>132082645.
All that manufacturing doesn't mean shit when you can't feed yourself. Classic communist fuck up.

>>132083493
a lot of this seems INCREDIBLY biased.

I mean when he's quoting Trump he's quoting it in the least-Trumplike tone and pacing imaginable. It doesn't include beats or pauses.

basically, this guy is fake news.

>>132084363
Lol China has been riding high on American charity for quite some time. Nothing more, nothing less.

And yes, it is charity. America literally GAVE you those manufacturing jobs, and its whats propped up your heavily embellished economy this whole time. What do you think is going to happen when Trump is the first one to finally pull the rug from underneath your feet? Compounded even further by tariffs that renders whatever poorly made Chinese junk that remains in the market as too expensive to sell to US consumers?

Its going to send your chink economy, thats as cheap and as plastic as your manufactured goods, into a blackhole-tier free fall. China is barely able to prop itself up as it is, just wait until someone so much as blows in its general direction, its going to crumble like the piece of shit it truly is and always has been.

>>132083379

this

Bush's failures made the Republican brand toxic for many years

>>132083624
man, it's almost like we stop working overtime for nothing.

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>>132085218
Any day now.

>Trade war from the side of the consumer

So, I have two electronic devices. One has the stars and stripes in it and its slightly better, but holy shit it costs 3 times more! The other has a red smudge with yellow stars in it. Doesnt seem so good, but holy fuck that price!

Yeah, fuck the burgers I´l have the cheapest. If it brakes I can still buy another one and still save money.

>the funny thing is that american entrepreneurs think the same thing about american workers

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>>132085218
B-but China NEEDS us!

Also, what's stopping China from using other countries as middlemen? Lol.

>>132086041
I dont remember any american electronic goods being made in america

>>132082858

>I made the known point that Trump did it because his name was nuclear as a builder.

Proof?

And one of Trump's largest success stories is that ice rink deal that the government had in limbo forever. What really went down there if he is so bad?

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AMERICA FIRST.

AMERICA FIRST.

GOD BLESS AMERICA AND GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP!

>>132084320

Holy shit I remember that now.

>>132075071
Yes. People don't realize that they won't pay 20% more for steel, but an extra few cents to buy it elsewhere

>>132076302
It's correct. Free trade has kept us alive while we waste money domestically on over bloated government spending.

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>>132074051

>Zerohedge

You're disingenuous news.

Fuggin Bulgarian propagandists.

>>132074051
This will not only affect those countries, It will fuck us too.

Please Trump don't do this, this is not what we elected you for

>>132074051

As a Canadian let me say "good". The States has been getting fucked over by bad trade deals for a long time now. Canada as well, but we're too spineless to do anything about it.

>>132075071
everything is produced in China... they are so far ahead of us manufacturing wise that any industry we setup will be the knock off

>>132075955
This. He never did pick a good cabinet but I think it's time to fire them all, fire everyone in those departments, and just handle it himself how he wants. Fuck senate confirmations. Make the VP earn his paycheck.

>>132074051
Wow now i get to cum even more in my sleep thanks President Trump

>>132083560
>using a mace on horseback
ISHYGDDT

>>132088631
Their capacity for manufacturing is higher, but certainly not their technology. Every large company there is just a knockoff of an American or European company. The government forces this by making foreign companies have local "partner" companies, whose sole purpose is to pilfer IP and the mimick business structure of the foreign company.

>>132078939

True, for example I was trying to ship a rx580 from USA and had to pay the $70 tax, despite a trade agreement. Meanwhile we export food almost freely damaging your internal economy.

China has a much better trade deal, the tax for importing manufactured goods is ridiculously low.

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>>132086041

Not everyone is that cheap schlomo.

Would you rather buy an Oris or 20 cheap Chinese made watches?

>>132074051
Trade war with china is in response to north korea.

China said they'd help out then turned around and moved a bunch of support for the Kim regime only a month after meeting with Trump.

Trump responded by selling a huge amount of weapons to Taiwan and sanctioning Chinese bank accounts tied to NK.

Now he launches the trade war. This is brilliant. He can now tighten the screws on the chinese financial apparatuses supporting rouge states while fulfilling campaign promises to bring back US manufacturing jobs and punishing businesses that seek cheap labor over American loyalty.

I support trade war and the sanctioning of China. This is war, not in the traditional sense, but a little sacrifice is necessary to rebalance power in the hands of Americans.

>>132088466
What the fuck are you talking about? This is precisely why I voted for him. Protectionism now, protectionism tomorrow, protectionism forever.

>>132090939
> confederate flag
> pro-protectionism

You started a war over opposition to it back in the day.

>>132074051

those pee tapes must be crazy.

i bet he drinks the pee.

>>132077332
We are in Accord, China must pay.

>3 for
Bannon, Miller, Trump

>>132083260
>When China matches western living standards and regulatory restrictions then we can talk.

Lol, I don't see that one happening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrv78nG9R04

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>>132074051
USA IS NUMBER ONE!!!!

>>132090939

Even if it tanks the economy?

hell no.

>>132079732
And watch it all crumble down when they have nobody to sell to. Or maybe Germany will buy it all to prove that globalism is awesome...

>>132086098
Selling to a hundred shitholes still would not match selling to America. Or ok, they can keep Pakistan, Nepal, and Indonesia...who gives a fuck.