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Why would communism be a better system than Capitalism.

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A big problem I have with these type of debates is terms and definitions. So I will try and create concrete definitions. So here is a the basic defection of communism:
In political and social sciences, communism (from Latin communis, "common, universal")[1][2] is the philosophical, social, political, and economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of the communist society, which is a socioeconomic order structured upon the common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money,[3][4] and the state.[5][6].
So now with a basic definition let's get started.
A problem with communism seems to be state control. Now yes, there is the exception of Anarcho-Communism. But the only real existence of such a system was the CNT which was crushed in 1936 and is now nothing more than a labor union. So unless better examples of this system can come up, I will be looking into State Communism.
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Now, here in America we live in very divided times. Many Americans don't trust the state to do the right thing. Now imagine if we gave all the power of our money, our labor and our rights to the state. That would be terrifying. So in my opinion, it's better that we don't have a state run economy.
Furthermore, does a man not have the right to the sweat of his own brow? In a Communist system, a man who does nothing would be payed the same as a man who worked his butt off. So in essence we would be rewarding laziness. I don't think we should. A man is often poor for his own mistakes. Men of high valor should be reward with bonus wealth.
Capitalism takes man's natural need to compete and makes it productive instead of destructive. It starts innovation. It starts a desire for change. A desire for a freedom of choice. So, why is communism better than capitalism? Would places like America be better off Communist?
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>>132060953
Capitalism itself contains many paradoxes.
The capitalist wants to reduce operating costs to make more goods for less price. So he can lower wages, employ less people, or get a better deal on his underline (presumably this happens first). SO lets say he automates and can now employ the same number of people but for less because the job isn't as skilled. He has now damaged his ability to sell goods. How you may ask? Well because the workers have less money, workers with less money cannot buy things. So he must make his goods cheaper so the workers can afford it. SO he automates and needs only half the workers now. BUT WAIT now the workers have even less spending power and he has hurt himself again.
This is just 1 of the paradoxes of capitalism.
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>>132060004

USA is a perfect place for socialism, they have the most advanced technology to sustain it via automation
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>>132061147
So just sell outside dummy, economics 101... but we all know gommies dont know any economics.
>>132061707
Yeah perfect place to ruin.
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>>132061995
Competition has proven to be a horrible way to progress and innovate. There are no upsides. What capitalist "competition" does is separate the best people in the field and don't allow them to communicate and collaborate. No matter how empty you are to be motivated solely by personal material gain, collaboration, not isolation, allows for progress.
There are so many aspects of capitalism that stagnates progress. This separation of possible collaborators. The piecemail release of progress. The lack of education of much of the population, the environment of poverty many are forced into. What the capitalist considers progress is not what the workers consider progress.
>the freer the market the freer the people
You are an anti-capitalist, you are just too ignorant to know better.
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>>132061707
Thanks Comrade! Viva la Revolution!
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>>132060004
Capitalism doesn't reward hard work, it rewards exploitation and opression. (((Zuckerberg))) definetley isn't a hard worker compared to any fucking child slave in Africa. Capitalism only seeks to expand this inequality and call it "freedom"
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>>132061707
USA is a perfect place for fascism, they have the most advanced technology to sustain it via automation
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>>132059982
Every time I think of Marxism I have to laugh at the idea of applying the concept of alienation of modern workers in the West. That and "exploitation rates" are reliant on the assumption that the clever arrangement of capital and labor does not in and of itself create value which is obviously untrue.
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