>Conservashits

>>132055870
>Not taking money from someone is wasting money
Yeah ok

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Are these retards still obsessed with muh inauguration crowd? Do they not realize that Bill had 800k attendees too?

>>132055944

> we are going to pay off the national debt by giving out massive under funded tax cuts to undeserving billionaires

Lmao sound logic repukelishit

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>>132055870
>wars
how else is that shit gonna pay for itself?

>tax breaks
more money to invest into lower/middle class and other stocks, etc

>the other one involving the crowd
literally no source and 99.9% bullshit. even if it is true, it was for like a week or around there. who the fuck cares if there were more in 2009 than in 2017 for the inauguration, even though that's probably wrong too.

>>132055870
A tax break costs zero dollars though

>>132056218
>underfunded tax cut
You don't need to "fund" a tax cut retard. Spend less.

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>>132056377
this is why right wing retards can't be trusted with money

>>132056556
ITs underfunded when they are going after my Social security you fucking faggot pathetic leaf . No wonder why autistic virgin insecure men post on /pol/

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>>132056556
you just admitted that tax cut needs to be funded with spending cuts

right wing retards can't be trusted with money

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>>132056740
GOP tax cuts are always deficit financed. They literally borrow money to give tax breaks to billionaires.

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Part 2 — Billionaire Warren Buffett says GOP health reform bills are relief for the rich
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/part-2-billionaire-warren-buffett-says-gop-health-reform-bills-relief-rich/

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Shill thread. Absolutely pathetic.

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>>132056906
the paid shills are the ones fighting for tax breaks for billionaires.

>>132056718
Cool graph Ahmed!

>>132056823
I agree . We've gone through 4 decades of massive tax cuts and they've done jack shit to "stimulate" the economy . Conervashits are such gullible retarded voters that believe in Le trickle down meme

>leftist memes

They'd be better if they had any basis in reality.

>>132055870
Another shill thread.
Pathetic.

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>>132055870
>Occupy Democrats

Saged, hidden and reported.

>>132057005
>obamaleaf still assblasted his shitty ideas are repeatedly rejected by the voters

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>>132055870
>cherry picking

>>132056823
>borrow money to give tax breaks to billionaires.
but all they do is just steal less money, that's not giving money and requires no money to do

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>>132057052
yep the economy actually does better when u raise taxes on the rich

>"It is striking to note that the best growth years for the bottom 99 percent since 1990 have taken place in the mid to late 1990s and since 2013, shortly after increases in top tax rates," Saez wrote.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/economicdevelopment/study-obama-tax-hikes-on-rich-didnt-hurt-economy-or-rich/2301353

>>132057043
LOL he won't refute the graph, and instead uses an ad hominem :^)

>>132057229
Lol are you fucking retarded? the majority of Americans support higher taxes on the rich.

Not everyone is cucked by the wealthy elites like you are

>33% appeals to authority
>33% ad hominens
>33% out-of-context cooked graphs
>0% economic literacy

Never change Obongoleaf

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>>132057563
100% no argument from the spaniard

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>>132055870
OP is baiting, but someone reading undoubtedly believes this, so I'll respond.
>healthcare
>food
I'm not sure why everyone thinks it's their right to have these things. The rights guaranteed to you by the Constitution pretty much begin and and at the right for you to live how you want. Stealing other people's money because you don't feel like getting a job violates that right for them.
>clean environment
I actually think that this is important, but there's obviously a lot of bloat that gets funding just like in every government agency.
>wars
Dems and Repubs both like killing people to extend our influence. Though now with all the shit that's popped up in the middle east, it's pretty much necessary to be at war.
>tax breaks for billionaires
There should be tax breaks for everyone. Why does the government lower incentive to do things like make more money or spend money through income and sales taxes? Both of these things are beneficial for the economy but they're discouraged through taxation. Everyone should be encouraged to make as much money as possible and spend as much money as possible.
>investigations
Never heard about that, but it sounds a lot like a fake news leftist hit-piece.

>>132055870
Bush started 1 justified war and 1 avoidable oil war. Obama got us involved in 4 avoidable wars (Syria, Yemen, Libya, Somalia).

Also tax breaks is the opposite of wasting money. Its literally letting people keep their own money.

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>>132057563
There's nothing more economically illiterate than thinking massive tax cuts for the rich pay for themselves with trickle down magic. That's been GOP ideology for 40 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St6ZNHKLiP0&feature=youtu.be&t=214

>>132057750
>linking MSNBC video
Hooktube that shit so they don't get views

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=St6ZNHKLiP0&feature=youtu.be&t=214

>>132057263
how many on food stamps in 2008
how many now?

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>>132057692
>right wing retards don't understand the difference between Bush invading and occupying Iraq with hundreds of thousands of troops and costing trillions of dollars.. and Obama launching a few drone strikes

holy shit u retards are fucking GONE mentally

>>132056906
>>132057043
>>132057063
>>132057135
>>132057146
>>132057229
>>132057231
>>132057563

Damn, when the fuck did /pol/ get filled with elite-loving cucks?

>>132057650
>Obongoleaf calling anything a non argument

I knew democrats have 0 self awareness, but damn this is a whole new level of lacking it.

>>132057794
Why do right wing retards think billionaires need tax cuts?

>>132057836
(((pol)) is mostly a GOP establishment shill and billionaire globalist supercuck board now

>>132055870
literally everything listed is supported by both parties

kys

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>>132057868
still not a single argument from the spaniard

>>132056174
that was over 2 decades ago
>>132056234
>more money to invest into lower/middle class and other stocks, etc

Why didn't they do that with the Reagan and Bush tax cuts? The Middle-class and below have shrank after both and saw their income decrease.
>>132056906
>t. Schlomo Rothenburg Shekelstein
>>132057043
>t. Marty Leiwotiz Ruthberg
>>132057231
>t. Benjamin Ruben Goldstein

>>132055870
SAGED

How many balanced budgets did King nigger have?
Say a number this time, don't try to move the goalposts like you always do

>>132055870
Wait, occupydemocrats still exists?

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>>132057563

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>>132058040
How many have Republicans had in the last 50 years?

Lol Bush hands Obama a $1.4 TRILLION budget deficit and an economy on the borderline of another Great Republican Depression and u retards want him to fix all that and balance the budget?

Obama reduced the budget deficit by 2/3. Name the last Republican to do that. Name the last Republican to balance the budget. Oh shit you can't do it AHAHAHAHAHA

Democrat Based Bill did. Based Bill's balanced budgets triggered right wing retards so hard, they had to come up with all sorts of conspiracy theories. Just like Obama's unemployment rate.

>>132055870
>thinks spending varies that much between left and right wing presidents

They all blow money on socialist garbage and war

>>132057836
>>132057983
>Taxing the rich will solve all our problems!
Government should not tax more
Government should reduce spending

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>>132058292
here u go

Name the last time a Republican reduced the budget deficit by 2/3. Show proofs. Oh shit you can't. Spaniard btfo

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>>132058348
Republicans don't cut spending

>>132055870
>War
>Implying that the military industrial complex doesn't supersede both parties
If you make an argument, you shouldn't literally invalidate it with your first point faggot.

>>132058292
>Obama reduced the budget deficit by 2/3
Didn't he increase the deficit a lot in the first year?

>>132057983
What difference does it make? Time doesn't matter, it's reception.

>>132058392
>automatically assuming I support republicans and vote republican

>>132058360
>the budget deficit matters when the money that is still being spent is still wasted on old people and niggers

>>132058360
>source: office of magement and budget
how many on food stamps in 2008
how many now?

>>132058348
when the rich manipulate the government to benefit themselves at the expense of average americans, then yes, they should be taxed more.

>>132057979
Here's an argument:
Calling people right wing retards (which btw, 90% of the democratic party members are by definition right wing) while posting a completely out of context graphic isn't a base for a political discussion.
Try to think by your own, like, for once, try to study the graph and the statistical manipulation behind it instead of zealously believing what it says and moving the goalposts every time you get cornered on an issue.
And no, I don't like the GOP either. I'm saying this because I know you will move the goalposts.

Well, that's more more argument of what you ever did here.

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>>132055870
>muh us vs them dichotomy
Two sides of the same shekel.

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>>132058493
No. That's another hilarious right wing retard fake news meme. FY2009 was Bush's last budget. Obama's first budget was FY2010. How do retards not know this?

Just like Obama's last budget is FY2017 and Trump's 1st is FY2018.

>>132058516
My point is Republicans should stop cutting taxes and gutting revenues

I think we can all agree that the best way to lower the national debt, is to stop all welfare programs

>>132058292
How many balanced budgets did Obama have?
Give a number, Obamaleaf, a number.

>>132058558
>>source: office of magement and budget

Yeah. You're whining like a bitch about the source because you're getting btfo by the facts. Bitch.

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>>132058645
The thing is tho, the right wing retards of (((pol))) love it when their billionaire globalist heroes buy off politicians

>>132058772
>ignoring the rest of the post.

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>>132058660
It's not an out of context graphic. It's an accurate graphic. you just don't like it because you're getting btfo by facts

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>>132058645
I agree
lobbying cancer should be removed
>>132058731
I want less taxes and higher efficiency
bureocracy is about as efficient as powering a car with ants on a treadmill

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>>132055870

>tax breaks for billionaires

Wow, really makes you think, I guess that's the reason 9 out of 10 of the richest people in America gave money to and voted for Hillary.

Kill yourself, faggot.

>>132055870
>wars
Stopped reading there.

These idiots don't realize that Shillary was an even bigger war hawk than Bush and that Trump is pro-peace.

>>132058750
The same amount as Republicans have had in the last 50 years.

Now answer my questions bitch. >>132058292

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>>132058826
>billionaire globalist heroes buy off politicians

Neither side is ever really going to fuck with the rich. After all, wealth naturally accumulates with those most capable of generating it, so to fuck with that is just shooting the country in the foot. The left says they're going to tax the rich harder while ignoring the fact there's nothing left to tax because they let the rich hide their money outside the country. "Taxing the rich" is just gutting the middle class while the rich go unphased.

>>132058898
Yeah except what happens is Republicans cut taxes and explode the budget deficit.

>>132055870

>Dems don't spend on war

I'm sure you forget Libya and clandestine Syria, as well as Serbia.

Dems do war just as much as Repubs.

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>Democrats don't waste money on wars

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>>132058676

Fuck off, leaf. If we want your opinion on our domestic affairs we'll ask for it (spoiler- we'll never ask for it)

>>132058878
So when the GOP has the house the economy does good better?
Also, I know long-term thinking isn't your strenght, but many crisis come from decisions made several years before them. Liek the 00's crisis which was thanks to Bill's idiotic choices.

>>132056779
It's why Trump has been cutting programs left and right while the left whines about it.

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>>132058986
I'm against money in politics. So you shills disavow the Koch Brothers and oppose Citizens United? You retards cheered when the GOP Supreme Court unleashed big money in politics with Citizens United.

>>132058982
The same amount as Republicans have had in the last 50 years is not a number. I asked for a number.

Who invited the libtards on here? Shouldn't they be hiding on /leftypol/

>>132059187
>/pol/ is one person

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>>132059130
>Liek the 00's crisis which was thanks to Bill's idiotic choices.

Whenever right wing retards are getting btfo.. they always turn to their last resort. The BUSH DINDU NUFFIN phase

George Bush: we want everybody in America to own their own home. That's what we want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68&nohtml5=False

>>132059272
>right wing retards think for themselves

>>132059270
Obama leaf has been here for years. He's just most active in the summer when he spends all day, everyday here

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brb going out for canada day

Literally NOBODY cared about Trump's inauguration crowd. The fuck are they on?

>>132059325
>Arguments in your post: None

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>>132055870

>>132059305
WTF you talking about, Bush was Obama on roids... neither are near trump.

>>132059305
Well, bill Clinton was the first president to force the banks to give loans to people who shouldn't have gotten them, which ending up leading to 2008

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>>132055870
remember to sage these threads

>>132057903
He cannot answer, and must deflect. Such is life as a leaf.

>>132058516
95 percent of /pol/ posters are republican because they vote republican >>132058554

>>132055870
>tax breaks for billionaires
ROFL, so Republicans waste the money other people earned by not stealing it?
Democrats are just a bunch of thieves and nothing more.

>>132059462
He cannot answer, and must deflect. Such is life as a right wing retard.

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>>132059428
Trump is Bush 2.0

>>132058292
>Name the last Republican to do that. Name the last Republican to balance the budget.
newt gingrich

>>132059325

Right wing is actual independence and less state

Left wing is for collectiveness and single mindedness

Of course, right wing comes with conspiracy and whatnot simply because it's a self-reliant mindset, but left also has craziness in blind trust

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>>132059187

Who gives a fuck what you think? You're fucking Canadian. Eat a dick (just like your PM does)

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>>132059437
>accompying

>>132059305
>Whenever right wing retards are getting btfo.. they always turn to their last resort. The BUSH DINDU NUFFIN phase

Bush was almost as bad as Obama. Almost.
Also, it was Bill who started the home ownership "strategy", ya know?

>>132058922
>Bush
He was actually the dove in his first election. Al Gore supported the kind of nation building Bush ended up doing. Bush spoke against it.

>>132059651
Trump is giving everyone tax cuts. The rich have more money, so they save more.
Also trump is against war while Hillary was a warmonger.

>>132059556
Amusing how their morals seemingly justify to steal from those who have a lot of money.
Democrats are literally white nigger underachievers, just like niggers they justify stealing from others because they have earned more money in their lives.

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>>132059655
Newt Gingrich had nothing to do with the Clinton surplus. He got btfo by his own in party in disgrace in 1998 and the GOP pissed away the Clinton surplus the moment they could with Bush

I love how all u right wing retards can do is try to take credit for OBAMA AND CLINTON GREATNESS while completely dinduing when the GOP are in charge because deep down you know they're shit

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>>132059187
>Le laughing crying girl leafposter

There's only one place for you

>>132059706
Does the Obama leaf get paid for the wonderful public service he provides?

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>>132059725
>almost as bad

1 million jobs vs 16 million jobs

u retards really are fucked up

Bush is the worst president in American history. Obama is one of the greatest. Right up there with FDR and Based Bill

The first grand wizard of the KKK was honored at the 1868 Democratic National Convention.

No Democrats voted for the 14th Amendment to grant citizenship to former slaves and, to this day, the Democrat Party website ignores those decades of racism. Three years after Appomattox, the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, granting blacks citizenship in the United States, came before the Congress: 94 percent of Republicans endorsed.

The records of Congress reveal that not one Democrat -- either in the House nor the Senate -- voted for the 14th Amendment

March 20, 1854 Opponents of Democrats’ pro-slavery policies meet in Ripon, Wisconsin to establish the Republican Party

May 30, 1854 Democrat President Franklin Pierce signs Democrats’ Kansas-Nebraska Act, expanding slavery into U.S. territories; opponents unite to form the Republican Party

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ok brb for realz now ill catch u tards and shills later

>>132059833
You're forgetting that 9/11 happened when bush was president, which led to a series of wars in the Middle East. If a democrat was in office, the same thing would have happened.

>>132059911
>Bush is the worst president in American history. Obama is one of the greatest. Right up there with FDR and Based Bill

You managed to name 4 of the top 10 worst in a single sentence.

June 16, 1854 Newspaper editor Horace Greeley calls on opponents of slavery to unite in the Republican Party

July 6, 1854 First state Republican Party officially organized in Jackson, Michigan, to oppose Democrats’ pro-slavery policies

February 11, 1856 Republican Montgomery Blair argues before U.S. Supreme Court on behalf of his client, the slave Dred Scott; later served in [Republican] President Lincoln’s Cabinet

February 22, 1856 First national meeting of the Republican Party, in Pittsburgh, to coordinate opposition to Democrats’ pro-slavery policies

March 27, 1856 First meeting of Republican National Committee in Washington, DC to oppose Democrats’ pro-slavery policies

May 22, 1856 For denouncing Democrats’ pro-slavery policy, Republican U.S. Senator Charles Sumner (R-MA) is beaten nearly to death on floor of Senate by U.S. Rep. Preston Brooks (D-SC), takes three years to recover

March 6, 1857 Republican Supreme Court Justice John McLean issues strenuous dissent from decision by 7 Democrats in infamous Dred Scott case that African-Americans had no rights “which any white man was bound to respect”

>>132059877
He does it for free.
Also, he is a faggot. For real.

>>132059953
>the 0.1% makes insanely huge ammounts of money
>they get more off taxes

Hurr durr what are maths

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>>132055870
>'The best argument against democracy, is a five-minute conversation with 'the average voter'.
--Winny-C

>>132059911
Bush was shit. Obama was shit. Bill was shit.
And with the graph, aren't a lot of boomers retiring?

>>132059911
>Obama is one of the greatest.

>muh Libya, which created 1/2 the refugee crisis
>muh Syria, which created the other 1/2
>muh son (who was found to be a criminal), which set back race relations

Yeah, greatest.

Literally Bush-tier overall.

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>>132057836
>board with 1 million unique visits per day
>post with 80 replies
>finds 8 replies that disagrees
>/pol/ is FILLED with elite-loving cucks

Kill Your Self.

>>132056718
>thinking govt deficits are a bad thing

pleb, read some MMT

June 26, 1857 Abraham Lincoln declares Republican position that slavery is “cruelly wrong,” while Democrats “cultivate and excite hatred” for blacks

October 13, 1858 During Lincoln-Douglas debates, U.S. Senator Stephen Douglas (D-IL) states: “I do not regard the Negro as my equal, and positively deny that he is my brother, or any kin to me whatever”; Douglas became Democratic Party’s 1860 presidential nominee

October 25, 1858 U.S. Senator William Seward (R-NY) describes Democratic Party as “inextricably committed to the designs of the slaveholders”; as President Abraham Lincoln’s Secretary of State, helped draft Emancipation Proclamation

June 4, 1860 Republican U.S. Senator Charles Sumner (R-MA) delivers his classic address, The Barbarism of Slavery

April 7, 1862 President Lincoln concludes treaty with Britain for suppression of slave trade

April 16, 1862 President Lincoln signs bill abolishing slavery in District of Columbia; in Congress, 99% of Republicans vote yes, 83% of Democrats vote no

>>132059833
>Newt Gingrich had nothing to do with the Clinton surplus.
That's where you're wrong.

>the GOP pissed away the Clinton surplus the moment they could with Bush
Or in reality 9/11 happened and the dotcom bubble popped.

>>132059953
I already explained this >>132059768

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>>132060102
>>132060086
>>132060100

>Not knowing who obama leaf is
>being this new
Lurk Moar

>>132060098
no sources on that pic

>>132059911
>Implying Obama had anything to do with jobs
Get a load of this cocksucker here

>>132059953
Booohooo, of course any tax cut is going to affect high achievers more than the middle class.
High achievers pay by far the highest taxes and 1% less taxes can often be millions.
Why don't you show a graph that shows the percentage drop based on income level.

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>>132058878

>>132060414
The graph needs an update asap.

>>132060286
I know who obamaleaf is >>132059327

>>132060414
Another white nigger who wants to steal more because he is a failure in life.
Move into a ghetto to be with your nigger brethren and join a gang that steals and mugs all those who achieved something in life,

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>>132055944
sure buddy. Sure, allowing them to wageslave is finnne

>>132056900
>>132056823
>>132056779
I SEE SOME TRUTH SPITTING

>>132056906
Haha anime freak mad at getting btfo with facts

>>132057229
Yoour shitty ideas are being rejected now!

>>132060414
Didn't good 'ol Bill get that reduction by cutting many of FDR's "New Deal" regulations that directly lead to the mortgage bubble?

Didn't he reduce debt with money that should have been for social security? Effectively spending money from a program and ensuring it would collapse, as well as spiking debt later down the road?

Also mandatory: Add Obama to the graph and the debt is literally off the chart. You'd have to make it 10x as tall.

>>132055870
>tax breaks
>waste money
liberals increasingly see citizens as merely tax nodes to be harvested for the benefit of non-tax-paying leeches like themselves. they believe that money is rightfully the govts.

I have encountered multiple canuckold defenders of trudeau who say his killing of the conservative gov's tax free savings accounts plan is a good thing because people were building up too much in personal savings and not having to pay tax on it, apparently robbing the government of needed money

>>132060098
>>132060355
because it's total bullshit, states like N dakota and Montana have the highest iqs in the country, pic related. California has like the second lowest iq of any state besides mississipi

>>132060793
Bro, I respect your opinion but you really got to educate yourself more. I see you're not a right-wing retard but seriously bro here are the facts. Bill Clinton did not do any of that, it was the Congress that did it, Bill Clinton couldn't have vetoed since a Presidential veto only works once. Get that bro? Also he never took from social security he borrowed since social security was running a surplus.

>>132060856
Billionaires are literally robbing you of money via corporate theft and you say nothing. Also Trudeau is a neo-liberal. Educate yourself dawg.

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>>132060901
forgot pic

>>132060925
Bill Clinton created NAFTA that ruined US industries. Tax income was bound to drop after that.

>>132061011
What billionaire stole money from you. Can you give us a concrete example?
And don't give me that bullshit "Steve Jobs created expensive iPhones" because he didn't force you to buy his shit.

>>132060856
What the ever-loving fuck Canada? So do you just tax everyone's savings now too?

>>132060925
He didn't veto at all, he worked with the Republicans to pass the laws. He was famous for bringing the two parties together and being a man who could go "across the isle" of politics.

And I don't say all that blaming him for everything. Bush is clearly similarly shit. I hate them all.

>>132057903
Why do leftists think they're entitled to other people's money?

>>132059588

I think you guys are missing a point with why there is such mistrust of you progressives. Lots of people think that you have alternative agendas behind what you are preaching and trying to enact, same as the rich republicans as well. We do not trust any of those fuckers. Right now though the neolibs/neocons are in power so you guys are getting flack because they are the biggest powerbrokers right now in Washington. I agree that tax cuts for the wealthiest elites is ridiculous. Problem is people are afraid you have a hidden hard socialist agenda and that these things you are pushing are apart of the "long march" to getting rid of private property and removing our constitutional rights. So see, the stuff that you do talk about that does make sense is discounted because they know your college professors were instilling subtle marxist notions into your brains and conditioning you. If it was purely about cleaning up the corruption in our capitalist system and stopping the disparity of wealth between the very rich ad everybody else, i think more people would be on your side. IN other words, some folks might not trust you.

>>132061011
>Billionaires are literally robbing you of money via corporate theft
how?

income inequality is the biggest political meme this decade, it's literally complaining that other people have more money than you. not that they didn't earn it, not that they stole it or exploited someone to get it, only that they're rich and you're not. the very act of employing people is called exploitation by you people, because they don't turn their companies into communes and split all the profits equally regardless of actual work done to make that profit.

>>132061266
Because they are white niggers. Low IQ, under achievers, low self esteem, believe that they "deserve" it for whatever reason to have all the gibs they desire.
Really, not much of a difference between them and niggers.

>>132060643
Then ignore him. He feeds on autism.

>>132061056
Yeah NAFTA was a fucking joke but what do expect him to do? Presidents don't make the laws

>>132061189
Macdonalds steals from me by taking away business from my restaurant

>>132060925
>it's not taking but borrowing if they're running a surplus
did he ever give it back?

>>132061599
YES! Every year every dollar of debt the U.S is borrowed gets paid back plus interest, it just then borrows the same amount.

>>132061598
>Macdonalds steals from me by taking away business from my restaurant
Are you on some kind of drug? How is competition stealing?
What kind of shitty restaurant are you running that shitty McDonalds servers better food than you?
Maybe you should clean your place and ask your employees to shower before coming to work.

>>132061598
This is a good point. The majority of the blame really should reside where it belongs, with our congress. They have been scared of doing anything wrong for so long they've let go of all responsibility. They won't pass laws, and the ones they do pass are useless and easily reinterpreted by anyone else coming along. Congress does everything it can to do nothing on any issue.

>>132061774
I don't really have a restaurant. It was just an example. Basically small businesses are being driven out forcing people to get jobs to the very same corporations that drove them out of business. Corporate feudalism.

>>132058676
You're technically correct, but your point is moot because Obama voted 'yes' on that budget.

>>132061892
I know, people need to focus more on their local senator and representative than Drumpf and Hillary. It's way more important on domestic issues.

>>132061768
did he give it back to social security.

>>132061903
Oh so you don't have any concrete example of how a billionaire stole your money, yet you claim they do.
And competition is feudalism. Because McDonalds at one point will run the world and you will have no other choice then flipping burgers at McDonalds on the conditions they offer you.

>>132059846
shut up girl stop crying

>>132060286
stfu pleb

>>132055870
I would much rather see MY MONEY spent on wars killing shit bags than for healthcare for these liberal retards who support the shit bags we are at war with.

>>132061197
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canadians-have-mixed-feelings-on-liberals-lowering-of-tfsa-limit-poll/article27971003/

it's like an rrsp or a charitable donation (to yourself) for tax purposes. believe it or not this was a campaign promise they ran on and we still gave them a majority.

can't be letting people save up to start a family, we need that money to import a new generation and pay their welfare since canadians refuse to breed! can't imagine why!

>>132059556
> paying fair share in taxes is stealing

You can get the fuck out of this country if you don't want to do your civic duty and pay up , Faggot

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>>132055870

how /pol/ has fallen to even respond 150 times to a thread like this...so sad...

>>132062071
You know what, you're the kind of guy that will blame guys like me for stealing your girlfriend.
Even if she wasn't your girlfriend but you courted her, yet she chose me.
Because all the sexual competition has created people who are more beautiful and others who are not.
It's all so unfair, you should go on the streets protesting and demand your high quality women being given to you by the government.

>>132059556
Billionares are theifs themselves.

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>>132062407
Except it's true. While based Bill Clinton is "wasting" the money on things people need right-wing loons are spending trillions on wars while giving more trillions to trillionaires

>>132062341
You could also suck my dick if I was gay. You would probably be better at sucking dick than at reading and understanding texts.

>>132062071

Lol Faggot.

In the entire history of the world, you can count on one hand companies that have lasted more than 300 years.

Just major car companies that have become defunct in the last 100 years, and its not even a complete list.

American Motors (AMC) (1966–1987)
Apollo (1962–1964)
Aptera Motors (2005-2011)
Autoette (1948–1970)
Bricklin (1974–1976)
Checker (1922–1982)
Citicar (1974–1976)
Corbin (1999–2003)
Dale (1974)
DeLorean (1981–1982)
DeSoto (1928–1961)
Dovell (circa 1980s)
Eagle (1988–1998)
Edsel (1958–1960)
Electricar (1950–1966)
Eshelman (1953–1961)
Fiberfab (circa 1960s)
Fisker (2007-2013)
Frazen (1951–1962)
Gaslight (1960-circa 1961)
Geo (1989–1997)
Henney (1960–1964)
Hummer (1992–2010)
Imperial (1955–1975, 1981–1983)
International Harvester (1907–1975)
King Midget (1947–1970)
Mercury (1939–2010)
Nu-Klea (1959–1960)
Oldsmobile (1897–2004)
Plymouth (1928–2001)
Pontiac (1926–2010)
Powell (1930s-1960s)
Rambler (1958–1969)
REO (or Reo) (1905–1975)
Saab (1937–2012)
Saturn (1985–2010)
Studebaker (1902–1967)
Stutz (1968–1987)
Stutz (1968–1987)
Vector (1971–1999, 2006-2010)
White (1902–1981)
Willys (1916–1918, 1930–1942, 1953–1963)


To be honest, McDonalds is going to go the way of the dinosaur in possibly 30 years.

>>132061982
They are exactly the kind of Weimar shitstains that would delegate themselves out of existence.

>>132062285
I suppose it depends on the amount of the tax? Frankly some of your money should be invested anyway, but 5,500.00 is low. Like extremely low. And any serious tax would absolutely be some communism tier bullshit.

>tax cuts
>giving billionaires their own money
>needs funding
>adds to deficit
Wew lad. Stop spending so much. lol Just pull out of the middle east.

>>132062671
Wow, you are retarded. So you suggest that McDonalds actually steals from other restaurants by attracting more customers.
And that they will be like a feudal ruler in 30 years.
Please look in the mirror and look into your white nigger face. You don't want to be a white nigger, you will not reproduce if you choose to do so.

>>132063000
>billionaires
>their money
They stole it from the collective.

>>132063055
How? I didn't know that they force you to buy their products.

>>132061388
And straight into the heart of the matter. Want to see a liberal respond to thia

>>132063139
Didn't know you consented to Macdonalds being in your city, didn't know you consented to Ford building a plant in your country.

>>132055870
>wars
these niggas serious?

>>132055870
>wars
lmfao

>>132063017

No, I was just finding incredible your claim that McDonalds will become corporate overlords and demand labor similar to feudalism.

Also your assertion that competition is feudalism. Competition by its nature is a meritocracy.

>>132063017
Fuck fatty over there, but also I think it's right to be scared of certain businesses or conglomerates / monopolies. I mean just try to say with a straight face that the US Banks and Military Industrial Complex isn't a tangible problem.

There's a difference between being better in fair competition and using money to ensure the opposite.

>what republicans waste money on

Seriously? Oil. That's the root of all this shit. The foreign wars, gutting the EPA, for fucks sakes the Secretary of State was the CEO of Exxon.

>>132063363
Then we have a misunderstanding. The leaf I replied to was stating that competition leads to feudalism to which I objected.

>>132056218
>you need to "fund" not stealing not the government's money in the first place

>>132063256
>>132063341
Stop laughing at fact! Obamaleaf will debunk you if you keep talking shit.

>>132063235
>providing a product or service is theft
>wrong opinions are violence
>up is down
You're a master (you) farmer, you cheeky cunt. If I didn't know any better I'd say you actually believe the shit you say.

>>132063541
Billionares stole their money so it's only fair they pay back

>>132059953
STOP
POSTING
THIS
that fucking y axis is extremely misleading

>>132063385
>I mean just try to say with a straight face that the US Banks and Military Industrial Complex isn't a tangible problem.
It is, but why? Because the government decides who is getting rich in their industries.
Because the government writes laws for them.
Government creates situations where no competition exists anymore.
It's hard to imagine how McDonalds could ever be so powerful to end all restaurant competition without the help of the government.

>>132063637
>providing a service is fine
>thats the same as megacorporations such as macdonalds or kock industries
I know you don't actually believe that and you want to troll me but the scary thing is some lawmakers actually think that companies provide a service besides taxation.

>>132063515

Must have been so, and i regret any confusion caused on my part in your conversation. I'll leave you to your burning of the leaves then.

Good day.

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>>132062572
>keeps posting the same bullshit about ol bill and obongo

>>132063737
how about the DOJ actually does its fucking job???

>>132055870
>implying republicans are still the war party.

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>>132063879
Oh Leaf. Always good for a laugh. Real talk: How long have you been refining your rhetoric? The graphs are ace. They trip people up big time if they don't understand what they're looking at.

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>>132057231
>throwing the baby out with the bath water

You know deep down that beyond the screechy identity politics and welfare spending is the only party remotely interested in working class living standards and ensuring your children don't suffocate on their way to school someday.

>>132061011
>corporate theft

Hahahahaha. That's not a thing faglord.

Neo-liberals are not to be trusted. They vote for wars and crony capitalism that empowers these corporations that you seemed so worried about a moment ago.

Neo-liberals are the leftist version of neo-cons. Fuck them both!

I absolutely love how willing Conservashits are to shove corporate cocks down their throat if they believe it will hurt liberals

>>132063825
Sort of. I mean fuck McDonalds here. I don't really care about them, and I don't really see a tangible way they're effecting policy in Washington.

But it is not a crazy idea to suggest it can and is happening right now with other businesses. This corruption presents a serious threat to our democracy in a number of ways and needs to be managed somehow. Some people even want communism, because nothing else is even attempting to manage the problem.

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>>132064081
Except it's fully constititutional to steal in America. It's labelled under "property rights" so the courts protect them

>>132063965
I can post more facts if you'd like

>>132064223
You guys do understand and agree though. I know you like to post because it's funny but i know this board is liberal

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>>132064310
>You know deep down that beyond the screechy identity politics and welfare spending is the only party remotely interested in working class living standards and ensuring your children don't suffocate on their way to school someday.
>You know deep down that beyond the screechy identity politics and welfare spending is the only party

>tumblr gif


living standards are not the governments problem
if you live in a shithole it's your fault for not getting a better job

>>132059120
fucking canalda

>>132064511
THE
SAME
FUCKING
GRAPH
do you have 20 copies of that fucking graph or what

>>132064317
Corporate theft is what right-wing retards propose is good.

Friendly fucking reminder that Tax cuts is code word for corporate welfare

Low IQ, broke Venezuelans crying.

>>132064566
I keep myself educated and that's all you need to know

>>132064743
Finally a true American who isn't a right-wing retard

>>132064846
You're a poor broke Venezeulan crying to your little mommy that your poor, and yet you blame DEM IMMIGRANTS DEY TOOK MUH JOB

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>>132064846
EDUCATE YOURSELF

>>132064907
Nobody cars about your opinions, Venezuelan. They're dumb.

>>132064310
>Implying Bush and Trump weren't the candidates of the working class and represented the interests of the poor
You probably need to check that again. Democrats have proven themselves to be literally useless. There isn't even a reason to vote for them in opposition to Republicans anymore, since they're worse in every way.

>>132064743
And more taxes is more government waste and restriction on your personal life. Try imaging that your taxes will go to welfare, then fucking remember that the military needs more tanks to sit in a parking lot.

>>132065063
>he can't read a simple flag
Stop crying, your poor.

>>132064743

I have a question here. Corporations are viewed as people for tax purposes in America or a very close equivalent. So why do you object to tax cuts or reduced taxes for corporations, since it stands to reason that the same tax loopholes that corporations use can also be used to some extent by an individual?

>>132065127
> He's currently in Canada
> that means he descends from the original colonists

Venezuelans are everywhere.

>>132055870
how do u waste monkey on a tax break, does it cost money to cut taxes and if so, why

>>132065133
Business tax is entirely separate from income tax. Corporations were ruled to be people because they're merely an institution ran by a group of people. Same as a union, whom also get the same rights, something many ignore

>>132065277
Well if I was Venezeulan I wouldn't be defending capitalism since it's the same system that created venezeulan crisis.

>>132065133
Because corporations bring in billions of profits. Anyone who makes that should not get a tax cut.

>>132065133
Because the tax loopholes aren't really accessible to normal individuals. They're more like Jew magic you can only take advantage of if you have money already.

Shit like setting up a dummy corporation in another country and giving it a "loan." Cheaper than simply transferring money. You never have to worry about paying back the loan either, since it's too yourself. But if you do, that would be cheaper than transferring the money back. Effectively it's a better way to hold money overseas. Usually involves some kind of bribe for the paperwork.

>>132065407
>Well if I was Venezeulan I wouldn't be defending capitalism since it's the same system that created venezeulan crisis.

Was Venezuela, dare I say it, not REAL socialism?

>>132065063
>cars
>>132065127
>your

jfc

>>132065384
>government collects 1 billion in taxes every year from GoldmanSachs
>government gives tax break
>now only requires 500 million
>goldmansachs now only pays 500 million to the government every year
>government now has 500 million less
Is it that complicated?

>>132065407
Revenue is not the same as profit and regardless, no one deserves to have more of their money taken for any reason, rich or poor

>>132065558
IDK man, you're the one saying do i dare, Not real capitalism?

>>132065642
The rich desserve to pay more since they have more.

>>132065666
> IDK man
Then I will answer for you - yes, it was.

>>132065627
>all money belongs to the government

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>>132058911
/ T H R E A D !

>>132065730
It was real capitalism? I know it was, venezeula was very capitalistic

>>132065829
Well yeah since the government creates the money i think so.

>>132058911
you're totally not ill.

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>>132055870
>I know! We'll waste money on an investigation about whether or not Trump colluded with Russia!
But wait... Didn't glorious leader Obama say that no one is capable of hacking the election?
>...RUSSIAAAAAAAA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>132066155
> Venezuela didn't have enough socialism.

You really are a disease.

>>132066414
>most capitalist country on earth
>not socialist

>>132065516
Or donating to a Charity that you set up to be a front for something else. You can write off a lot of US taxes if you donate. This is obviously illegal, but just look at the Clinton Foundation.

A few layers of obscurity seems to be all that's necessary to avoid jail. Plausible deniability.

>eats KFC reguarly
>"gold" plated everything
>suits 2 sizes too big
>prefers his steak well done
>5 kids by 3 different women

>daily reminder Trump is more of a nigger than Obama ever was

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>>132057836
Where the fuck have you been recently? Shit is nothing new.

There are people with functioning brains, all fighting against Trump now and there are brain-dead retards all sucking Trump's dick no matter what he says.

Don't worry, we all for his kike lies. When Trump said he would "drain the swamp", when Trump said he would kill the special interest groups, when Trump said he enact 1930's policies that would stop billionaires from having too much power politically, and when he said he would fight against jobs going outside. Campaign Trump was a fucking saint and his promises were great.

Now? Now he's an absolute cuck for the kike elites. His administration has the most billionaires in history. He has given tax cuts to billionaires saving them trillions. He has put them into positions of power so that they wouldn't have puppets like Hillary indirectly doing their bidding. He shat on Goldman Sachs and other billionaires for funding Hillary yet literally gave them political power in the government. He has completely surrendered all of America to the rich kike elite yet brain-dead retards still think he is their /guy/. Like holy fucking shit, Trump legitimately said "I'm going to put solar panels on the wall so that Mexico won't have to pay" and all his brain-dead supporters cheered on like fucking apes and monkeys.

Stupidity is a fucking plague. This kike puppet needs to die. Not only did he surrender everything to the billionaires, but he's also following their foreign policy and wants to start war with Syria now. Trump needs to fucking die.

>>132064511
no leaf.
DOJ as in breaking corporate consolidation, jailing lobbyists, and prosecuting bankers with jail time as opposed to fines.

not some blind commie, muh billionairez bernie madoff sander kike rhetoric

>>132055870
Obama
>Democrat
>the most at war president in American history
>the most economically destructive president since FDR thanks to Obamacare
>telling foreigners what to vote for in their own countries

Democraps. The nutshell they can't afford.

>>132055870
You give your money to the government then, cuck. If you have any left over, give it to the niggers. And give a room in your house to some illegals.

>>132064518
>part of the forest is on fire
>let's not do anything about it
>poverty struck shithole spreads like cancer to rest of society

It's like you want our nation to be a degenerate shithole overruled by elite trillionaires.

>>132064518
>living standards are not the governments problem

They most certainly are when it has spent the past four decades actively making things worse for your bottom line healthcare options and breathable air/water. They are when it has spent that time fucking crucial scientific progress in the rear. And taking your money while threatening to privatize social security to fund money hoarding for the trust fund titty baby class. And pretending it wants to reduce total govt spending, create jobs and "stay out of your way." They are when it used unprecedented deregulation of the banks almost 20 years ago to result in an economic downturn that might've vaporized your 401k or prospects of owning a decent home. They are when it uses wafer-thin "religious" and "personal" freedom excuses to pass needless laws that restrict your personal life, like when/where/how you are ready to raise a family, with whom, and when you can purchase alcohol to drink and forget all these problems.


Were YOU consulted on whether you wanted all that? Were you around for most of it? If you really think conservatives aren't needlessly over complicating our lives as well then I'm super sorry about that.

>TUMBLR TUMBLR REEE

And? You can laugh about it to yourself in the shower later idc

>>132067443
>poverty struck shithole spreads like cancer to rest of society

Yeah, thanks to public housing and anti-discrimination laws.

Markets actually lead to gentrification and drive the trash out.

>>132067637
But where would the trash go? And you say markets like nothing isn't monopolized to shit nowadays.

>>132059651

>Hilldawg says by a factor of 2
>its true b/c its more than Bush!

didn't even offer any support of the initial claim; used a red herring.

those clowns are pure 100% cancer.

>>132067908
>But where would the trash go?
The wilderness to start over.

>>132066602
Couldn't have said it better. Glad there are sane people here who look at facts instead of "promises" and rhetoric. His supporters are the most fucking gullible retards i've ever encountered. They would eat shit if it had the Trump brand on it.

>>132068208
>ruining the outdoors, hunting and camping with degeneracy

>>132055944
>not taking money from someone is wasting money
Since when Republicans stopped taking money from the citizens? They cut taxes and use "debt" to fund the rest