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Emigrating to Lithiania

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I am considering relocating to Lithuania. What is life like there? I am looking to buy a villa on some farmlands. What area should i look at. To get a 5 year residence permit i have to invest 60 000 euros into a local business over a 2 year period. Any suggestions what type of businesses i should look at? I have experience in farming, livestock, tobacco, wheat, onions, garlic etc on commercial scale.
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>>132024491
Lithuania will be annexed by Russia
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>>132024491
>1/2 Lithuanian
>Visited, never lived. Take this with adequate salt.

>The country is beautiful.
>The people would bend over backwards to assist you in whatever you needed, even those in extreme poverty.
>Ethnic Lithuanians hold to their traditions, a nice change from Western Europeans.

Personally, if I were to move their, I'd look for a country home, not the city. With that in mind, you are making a good choice.

Regardless, this could be really bad advice. I just love the country, people, traditions not to throw in a good word.
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>>132025280
there*
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>>132024491
It's a shithole populated by low-iq peasants.

You should migrate to Australia or New Zealand.
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>>132024491
Yes hi, hey, hello. Im here to guide you and answer all of your questions.
But first you need to post a picture and a timestamp of your left hand in clear light.
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>>132025535
Could be. Could just be Polish-Lithuania bants.

All I know is I enjoyed the country-wide visit. Sure there were shithole areas where I thought I was going to die, but at least there were fewer kikes and niggers than in the US. Besides, OP is from SA, I'm sure he can handle a few "bad areas"
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Extremely cold and soulles people that make Germans look Spanish

Also everybody is height masterrace so if you aren't at least 6'2 don't even try

You will feel like a subhumanity 24/7, with even 15 year old girls towering over you
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>>132025580
this.
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>>132025777
look how shituania is low iq-d in comparison to neighbouring countries

lulz
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>>132025812
You change flags more frequent than an australian changes underpants.
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>>132026063
>lulz

:(
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>>132025812
nice try żmudzin

now go back to field
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>>132026063
I admit I don't know why this is. Could be genetic to Balts, or Lithuanians in particular. Maybe it was a selection for this study. Maybe it is brain drain to the West.

Regardless, most Lithuanians I know are very smart, but this is just a selection.
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>>132026389
>Regardless, most Lithuanians I know are very smart
Those were probably just lituanized Poles and Russians, lol.
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>>132026493
Poland I stand for you, but once the race war is over with you and I will have round two for this disrepespect you're showing my people.
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>>132026095
True but I happen to have exp in EE so I always visit EE threads trying in my 2 cents
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>>132026389
Maybe its a brain drain, maybe the smart ones were killed, maybe we are just dumb in comparison, but its true. The charts do show we have lower IQ's than the most of eripean coutries.
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>>132026493
Nah, they were Lithuanians for sure.
I am curious, why the hate? Is it because you honestly see Lithuanians as subhumans vs Europeans or is it a nationwide Polish feeling due to historical issues between you two?

Also, good on you Poland for standing strong in the face of the Muslim hoards. Why push for brother wars?

>>132026584
iktf
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>>132026584
I don't have respect for nations who disrespect Polish minority and autisticallly screech because of Polish language signs.

If they weren't part of NATO, they would have been invaded a long time ago, but now those ungrateful fuckers feel too safe.
>>132026830
We're not the ones pushing brother wars. It's shithuanians who disrespect Polish minor-... well... actually MAJORITY in some parts of Lithuania.
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>>132024491
>60 000 euros
That is alot. You will get around quite easy at first. But this is where the hard stuff starts.
Firstly: the language is VERY difficult, but you must learn it if you want to to be accapted into nation and community.
Secondly: life is not as nice and easy here as you might imagine, the weather is shit, and everyone is constantly depressed, suicide is common.
thirdly: Dont bother starting a life alone, bring family with you, it's gonna be rough the first few years.
And integration into the local community (not enclaves) is a must, otherwise you wont make any friends.
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>>132026830
In all likelihood, it's proxy shilling to turn perception against polish posters. There's been a pretty big uptick in custom flag shilling against polacks, I think this is phase two to try and sway opinion against one of the last white ethnostates.
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>>132027186
that's not a lot
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>>132027153
This may be true, I just have never heard of this. Do you have any links that talk about this?
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>>132027186
>Secondly: life is not as nice and easy here as you might imagine, the weather is shit, and everyone is constantly depressed, suicide is common.
Are you sure you're not describing your country?
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>>132027280
It is more than enough to buy land there, as it is even cheaper there than here.
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>>132026830
>Polish feeling due to historical issues between you two?

Its this. And its 4chan.
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>>132027268
Very possible. Even if this is a real polish poster, it doesn't change my opinion. They are doing God's work in once again defending Europe from the muslims.
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>>132027394
Latvia and Lithuania are very much alike. And no, that description is (slightly) more fitting to LT than LV.
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>>132027430
Good point. Sometimes I'm in far too amiable a mood to effectively post here.
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>>132027430
two people's that hate each other but the only time they were relevant was when they were one commonwealth.
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>>132027305
http://thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/219422,Polish-schools-strike-in-Lithuania
http://www.rmf24.pl/fakty/swiat/news-litwini-nie-chca-tablic-z-polskimi-nazwami,nId,1470309#utm_medium=frame
http://pasaulis.lrytas.lt/europa/lenkijos-valdantieji-iskele-grieztus-reikalavimus-lietuvai-20170331061529.htm

You can use google translate to translate some of above.
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>>132027268
nah dude, its just our love/hate relationship.
>>132027305

Basic gestalt:
In Lithuania street signs, names on official documents, etc. must be typed in only lithuanian alphabet. This was since we regained our independence in 1991. So now the 5% polish minority in whole Lithuania are butmad because their names on our passports are lithuanized and are written without w. Esentially they are mad because we cant pronaunce Grzegcor Brzcdznievvcziek.

Only the poles are mad about this.
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>>132028166
>[Canned response]
Not passionate enough to talk about it yourself, hmmm?
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>>132027983
Modern "lithuanians" have very little to do with the ones ruling the Grand Duchy, who were mostly Polish and Belarusian speaking.
>>132028289
What the fuck is your problem, diaspora żmudzin?
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>>132027153
assimilate ,if you have problem with that than gtfo to shithole u came from slavnigger
>>132026389
its mostly brain drain after ww2 which effected our gene pool very badly , +300 000 went to gulags in siberia and +100 000 emigrated to usa
>>132025777
where was those 'bad' areas?
>>132024491
go to country and start farming,land is cheap and fertile ,consumption is big ,you will be welcomed if you look white .
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>>132027528
Christ. We are not defending anything. Eastern Europe is not defending Europe.

We just have different mentality than the people from Western countries. People in E. Europe are still bluepilled on many subjects because of communism. It is not like we actively fight against muslims. Also we could not care less about the west or about chaos in the west. It does not bother us, we just want to be left alone.

We just don't tolerate muslims and (((them))), we don't tolerate socialist/liberal ideology because it is the exact opposite of what are mentality stands for. We don't trust strangers, we don't trust each other, we don't put on fake smiles like people in Ireland or UK.

There is even a saying in Poland - everyone knows it, even young kids. Sadly it is nearly impossible for me to translate it but I will give it a shot anyway.

"And on the trees, communists will be hanged instead of the leaves " I have no idea how old that is, it probably comes from 1920~ or 1930~
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>>132028227
We and Eesti have the same problem with Russians. Streets and locations were renamed, and Latvian is the only state recognized language.
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>>132028411
>gtfo to shithole u came
They are living there for centuries. You are the ones who should either respect them or fear when NATO will no longer protect your asses from Russia.
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>>132028389
My full blooded Lithuanian ancestors only stopped working once they got off the boat to fuck and build a church, only to have (((multiculturalism))) gut the building and install a different denomination under the same roof. Your suspicious behavior has me on edge, sniffing for the concern trolling (((nose)))
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>>132028656
That's a bit confusing, I thought you are going to call me "Russian shill", but you implied I am a kike :)
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>>132028649
>muh russian invasion
if they'd come for us, they'd come for you too, retard.
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>>132024491
slav shit.

Emigrate to principalities without property tax you stupid knucklehead.
If you need to pay the government every year, pro-tip, you dont own your fucking property, you're renting it.
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>>132028411
i live in a country where ethnic lithuanians are majority so the only ones who should respect our laws and rules are minorities like u nigger .
Fuck even germans assimilated in memel through years ,but you roaches always makes a problem out of nothing(some dumb street sign naming)
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>>132029054
cringe
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>>132028969
>they'd come for you too
For what? For our shitty forests in Podlaskie voivodeship?
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>>132029151
and what do you think russia would gain from the baltics?
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>>132029280
Riga :)

One Riga is worth more than those shithole villages in 80% of Russia.
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>>132028649
>centuries
HAHAH
>You are the ones who should either respect them
Respect is earned, polish dont earn, they steal : >)
> fear when NATO will no longer protect your asses
Im usre we will be ok.
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>>132029151
>>132029280
>This is when the pole knew, he kurwa kurwa'd
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>>132029386
)))) ayy blayt
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>>132029136
Latvia is 5x better than Lithuania, stay out of this. This doesn't concern you.
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>>132029386
y-you too...
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>>132029498
Can't take anyone serious who sports the harbinger of autism in his flag tbqhafaik
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>>132029386
Pfft. I wish. It is an old city, and it's main attraction is tourism. And tourists don't go to possible warzones.
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>>132029280
Protection over minorities, well + it would connect Kaliningrad with the rest of Russia, and better acces to the Baltic sea.
>>132029425
Yes, centuries.
>>132029453
Go eat a potato.
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>>132027396
Decent tractor cost more than that, land is not the only thing you need to be a farmer.
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>>132029498
Same land, same people, but somehow one is better than the other. Explain how.
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Lithuanian girls are amazing
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>>132029766
>Decent tractor
You mean the fancypants wesern made plastic crap? An old T40 is all you need. They are dirt cheap, reliable, and are found all over the place.
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>>132029737
>Protection over minorities
hhaaha
>and better acces to the Baltic sea
hahaha " OUR COAL CARRIER WILL ROAM THE BALTIC SEA"
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>>132030022
buy the new tractors you stupid peasant!
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>>132029737
>yes, centuries.
And which centuries that will be? inb4 commonwealth meme times
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>>132029737
>latvian russian minorities
trust me when I say actual russians don't want them.
>connect Kaliningrad to Russia and better access to the Baltic sea
it's not the year 1800 anymore, there is 0 reason to go to war over that.
I like europa universalis 4 too but you should lay off the vidya for a while.
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>>132030108
If it ain't broke don't fix it.
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>>132030108
enemy spotted.
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please don't judge whole Poland on this one pink faggot

soviet did number on us, tried to bent us against each other on the idea that the only country that loves you is mother russia, and everybody else raped your daughter at least twice, i guess some low iq faggots got that to their heart, and what you see here, is a child of such low iq faggot.
Low iq faggot junior

in every country there be few like those
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>>132030221
>>132030279
Doesn't matter, EU funding gets cut in 2020, we're fucked anyway
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Are you white?
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>>132030067
not an argument
>>132030159
commonwealth + many shituanians adopted polish culture in 19th century
>>132030170
the same would chochols have said about russians in crimea...
>it's not the year 1800 anymore, there is 0 reason to go to war over that.
1800? goymany started a second world war for similiar reasons, but got s l a v e d later
>>132030358
cuck
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>>132030421
>fucked
Only the cities are.
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>>132024491
Vilnius is booming, Kaunas and Klaipeda are ok. People emigrate from periphery because of low wages. Check if you have litvak blood - could be possible to get a citizenship. Do you want to do farming? Here I found some map with soil productivity. Good luck, don't worry about autistic poles on pol/.
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>>132030358
Dont worry, we know you dont hate us, well at least not that much.
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>>132030358
this desu
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>>132030576

REPLYING TO:
>Anonymous (ID: yIdUwKLj) 07/01/17(Sat)21:47:56 No.132030576 ▶
> >>132030067 (You)
> not an argument

COPY Anonymous (ID: yIdUwKLj) 07/01/17(Sat)21:47:56 No.132030576 ▶

>>132030067 (You)
not an argument
>>132030159
commonwealth + many shituanians adopted polish culture in 19th century
>>132030170
the same would chochols have said about russians in crimea...
>it's not the year 1800 anymore, there is 0 reason to go to war over that.
1800? goymany started a second world war for similiar reasons, but got s l a v e d later
>>132030358
cuck
>not an argument

>not an argument, pablo
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>>132028492
I am fine with the map in the middle.
Hell, you could even add some more terrritory in the east.
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>>132030700
are you autistic or something?
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Every Lithuanian I met was an utter cuntbag. Literally every single one. They were a mix of Tumblr/SJW/cunt across all of them (old, young, man and women).

But that's how they behave in my country, don't know if they're still cunts in their own country.
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>>132030592
what. you do understand that EU funds move literally everything? From renovating public structures like municipal buildings, schools to fixing water system, subsidizing farmers, I could go on and on
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>>132030426
If was about to ask. I swear, if you people are letting niggers into the ancestral motherland, so help me
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>>132030821
>judging an entire nation by it's emigree trash
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>>132030815
Why don't you fuck off already you fool? Haven't been BTFO enough yet? God, what an autist, I'm sorry for other people in Poland that have to endure you
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>>132030987
OK, so you are just retarded

That's typical for B*lts.
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>>132028411
Not sure the name of the city, it may have been Palanga. I was staying with someone who lived in one of the many former communist housing buildings. The area was very different to what I was used to. Probably not as bad as I remember feeling at the time.
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>>132030852
>subsidizing farmers
Are you a farmer, dear nigger? No? Then shut it. You don't know what the EU has done to us here.

And once your gibs stop, jobs will (hopefully) decentralize back across the nation, and so will the people.
You like to pretend that we are this nation of beggars, but it is not so. Our economy was booming before joining the EU. They put a lid on us.
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>>132031161
Sure showed me, can't even argue properly

I should say something in your tongue

ahem
"kurwa kurwa"
:)
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>>132028389
> We wuz Kangz and shiett and you weren't
Just stop
>>132027983
I don't really hate polish people, they are similar to Lithuanians and have basically the same culture. Just that they are very very nationalistic, self centered and a bit insecure.
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>>132030920
I've worked with some for over 10 years and most of them only work between 6 months to a year so I've met plenty. But if you read my post I said I don't know if they're alright in their own country. Sometimes immigrants who go to one country act like cunts there but in other countries they don't.
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can someone send a Witcher™ to this guys house? could be possessed.
>>132030576
we're in that NATO thing btw so whatever man.
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>>132030815
Marku, proszę się stąd usunąć.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CExlwc5DSpM
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>>132030576
>polish culture

But we are not talking about culture, are we, Grzegor?

Vilnius was founded by a lithuanian. Vilnius is historically lithuanian clay. Lithuanians lived in Vilnius for a longer time than polish did.
Vilnius was polish clay for like 19 years or so?

What claims you have for it? non.
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>>132030821
>They were a mix of Tumblr/SJW/cunt
what
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>>132028492
Sorry, I didn't mean you were actually fighting Muslims in the streets to better the UK. I meant fighting in a more "Fighting For Your People" way.
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>>132030593
Sorry, map here: http://konsolidacija.maps.arcgis.com/apps/ImpactSummary/index.html?appid=36b86706915a4a72bbb1c629c7677c38&webmap=368cb01dd91f4d4f8985f85efae3b780
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>>132025580
i am white. i can trace all my ancestors back to germany and netherlands. to 1600's. Also niggers ib south africa doesnt come here. they are on twitter.
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>>132030821
>lithuanians
>tumblr/sjw
the fuck? you work in a gay club or something?
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>>132031523
whatsup? do you think the situation in SA is going to get spicy this fall?
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>>132031430
I don't know why the fuck would he focus and talk about muh polish Vilnius while there is Lwów, which used to be polish for 700 years and now has 100% polish architecture.

It does not make any sense, we should be focusing on reclaiming Western Ukraine instead of Lithuania.
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>>132024491
Good choice anon hear nothing, but good things about it 1/2 Lith here would love to visit/move.
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>>132031439
The way they behaved and treated others.
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>>132031444
>holy shit those digits

>. I meant fighting in a more "Fighting For Your People" way.
Yep, now it sounds accurate.
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>>132031703
like how?
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>>132031267
I should say something in your ton-

no wait, it's so irrelevant that i don't even know one word in it
>>132031303
We wuz noblemen in Lithuania, you were just peasants. Deal with it.
>>132031356
You would be fucked by Russia after NATO falls.
>>132031403
Ale wiesz, że "kończ wasć wstydu oszczędź" znaczy "przestań MNIE kompromitować"? Czyli to ty przyznałes się do bycia skompromitowanym?

Poza tym, na chuj bronisz żmudzinów? Przecież oni walczą z Polakami na litwie i traktują ich jak gówno.
>>132031430
Wilnius was like 90+% Polish and 2% lithuanian.

Also woooow so brave you re-annected it because Soviets invaded us... but got annected by them year later.
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Wait a sec, let's say I want to immigrate too. Where should I go? Kaunas seems like the place for me.
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>>132031251
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>>132031251
My god, you have absolutely no idea of how our country is run..

You realize that we are highly dependent on EU gibs? It will be the same thing as when the housing bubble popped and the crisis hit, Estonians had predicted it and prematurely made a backup of some sort, so that their economy wouldn't have been totally fucked

How do you see anything decentralizing? Especially with less money and development, has there been any significant advancement in local municipalities, hell, outside Riga, for all these years?

Look at Ventspils, royally fucked, it's utterly fucked by corruption and shit leadership, the east is fucked too, no one is going to build or create anything there, and less funds will be an even bigger reason not to

Our economy was booming before EU? How so? What, you mean the overbloated construction sector in which some idiot constructor putting bricks had the same salary as a surgeon? Or that the banks giving out loans left and right? Oh right, that was exactly what led to the shitstorm
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>>132031636
you both and your 'reclaiming'

you got mother/sister/wife/daughter?
is there a danger to them from whatever side?
u fucking protect them

thats the nationalism i understand
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>>132026389
This is just some random map. There are no information whatsoever how the tests were performed, what IQ test was used, how population was sampled (I am sure could get a sample of dog torturing chinese ants with iq ~70 on average) and even if it has any statistical significance. Anyway it's just probably fake or cherry picked by that autist pole or proxy shill.
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>>132031778
here's your guide
>>132025580
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>>132031403
>witcher music at the end
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>>132031635
no it will be a very slow fall. south africa is immensely rich compared to other third world states. its just that i dont wanna live amongsts niggers anymore .
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>>132031769
Divide et impera.

Skupmy się lepiej na Lwowie, dobrze? Polecam się przejechać do Lwowa.. idzie depresji dostać od tego, jak te miasto jest zaniedbywane przez Ukraińców..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjhYCTOkUbw
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>>132031636
We Lwowie już nie ma Polaków... na chuj dbać o niemal całkowicie schoholczone miasto?
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>>132030593
Most people that emigrated from Lithuania to South Africa were kikes. Its was something like 600 Lithuanians and 60 000 Jews. They went there for those precious stones and metals. I doubt he has any Lithuanian blood.
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>>132030821
>lithuanian sjws
u literally making shit up dima
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>>132031181
Palanga is one of the worst regions i guess, especially in summer. Scum of the earth and russian bydlos like to swarm that city.
>>132031303
> a bit insecure.
you mean a lot? lmao, polsih are the mosy insecure people in the whole europe. Romianians feel less insecure about someone calling them a gipsy than a polish is when someone calls him a thief/plumber.

>>132031328
Thats why we, more calm ones, like schengen zone. All the trash, scums, uneducated bydlos leave Lithuania for a better living in europe. When summer comes they return here and it feels like shit to live among them as well. So i dunderstand you and dont blame you. Its the reality.
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>>132031769
>You would be fucked by Russia after NATO falls.

I mean, hypothetically speaking, if it does, they would roll over your pathetic military with one division from Kaliningrad, and probably split you up again, one half to Russians and other to Merkel, lmao, the ride never ends
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>>132032320
patrz >>132032324
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>>132031749
>>132032042
If anon has an English degree or a Psych degree if I speak LT is it easy for me to move / get a job I am half Lithuanian
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>>132032042
>how population was sampled
Sampling is always random, there's no reason to think otherwise, unless it's specifically stated.
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>>132031884
The EU gibs was neither of our decisions. It's the 100 cabbage heads who are responsible.
And do you really believe that EU cuts will be the end of us? This nation has survived way worse. We recovered from the Soviet Union's retarded policies, and we will do so again.
And this is coming from a lifelong pessimist, so I don't even know what does that make of you.
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>>132031769
>We wuz noblemen in Lithuania, you were just peasants. Deal with it.
I don't need to because I don't give a shit.
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>>132032186
understandable

I would be paranoid af to raise a cute white daughter in SA
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also lithuania has better weather than letland and estii?
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>>132032429
Nope, because we would ally with Russia then.
>>132032502
Don't you give a shit about the fact that your nation had no role in creating your country and cities like Wilno?
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>>132032417
That explains it. It felt different from everywhere else I went. Not bad enough to turn me off from the country, but I knew I wasn't going to make friends. Everywhere else, people were great
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>>132032441
Jebani gommunisci, ich jebany niedziałający system oraz ich deportacje powojenne ;_;
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>>132032677
Its the same.
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never before this thread I believed that there were some 'they' trying to trick us against each other

fuck you world
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>>132031523
Still waiting for that picture and a timestamp. Im sure you will understand.
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>>132032677
Nope. Maybe the eastern parts are warmer during summers by a few degrees, but that's it.
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>>132032677
The difference is negligible. My guess is that, on average, Estonia is colder than Lithuania.
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>>132032750
Ale nadal jest wielu Polaków w Wilnie i na nich się skupmy, a nie na widmie polskiego Lwowa.
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>>132032677
Same shit , if you want the most developed region go to Vilnius , if u want something which reminds you home choose Klaipeda and build house outside city perimeter .There are many options if u have cash .
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>>132032478
>100 cabbage heads
>fucking politicans11
>atlaist saeimu, atlaist saeimu!
oh boy here we go, the very idea of joining EU was via referendum, what, you're going to tell me it was faked or something? 70%+ participation and about the same part voted for

Obviously the cuts won't end our country, but if it does happen, it's not be a total cut of funds, but a significant cut for sure. It will get worse, less things done all around, because we're so much used to the funds, every thing you see built anywhere, really, is 80-90% made up from EU finances, which we have also been shit at acquiring.

I'm not a pessimist, but a realist, and if you thought it was better before EU, surely you're some weird optimist , it was about the same
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>>132031778
ehem
>>132025580
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>>132032924
How much would a burger have to save to buy a home in LT?
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>>132032924
unrelated question but why is basketball so popular in Lithuania?
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>>132032700
>>132032700
>Nope, because we would ally with Russia then.
hahaha, keep dreaming of that, you'd be carved up again and made a bitch, except then no one would come to your aid
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>>132024965
living in south africa i don't think he cares senpai...
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>>132025535
Australia and New Zealand is nice i suppose. But i like peasants. My father was a farmer. Most people i know are farmers or children of farmers.
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>>132025580
kek
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>>132031769
>Wilnius was like 90+% Polish and 2% lithuanian.
Daily reminder that "Poles" living in Lithuania are ethnically Lithuanian and that there was no actual large scale Polish migration into Lithuania. Pilsudski, Mickiewicz, Stanisław Narutowicz one of the people who signed Lithuanian independence had a brother who was first Polish president (both born in Lithuania from noble family that lived in Samogitia with).
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>>132033102
not too long in the future Russia will annex Belarus and then Poland and Russia will be neighbour again

no way they will ally Russia
just retards would think so
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>>132033102
Wrong.

Also remember rhat Goymany will be completely destabilized by non-white minorities in incoming times.
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>>132032700
> Don't you give a shit about the fact that your nation had no role in creating your country and cities like Wilno?
That's only in you little insecure autistic mind. I don't care. Even if it would be true I still don't care.
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>>132033272
>not too long in the future Russia will annex Belarus and then Poland and Russia will be neighbour again

You do realise that we already border Russia?
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>>132032924
i dont like big cities. have been looking at farmland near klaipeda. any good estate agents you can recommend?
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>>132032700
>Nope, because we would ally with Russia then.

:DDDD i wanna see it
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>>132033116
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Lithuania is a poor dying shithole with zero economy (beside beads and clay) where everyone with a brain wants or has already immigrated to Britain/Germany and all that is left is 70 IQ bydlo drinking 70 degree vodka.

You are far better off living somewhere in western europe.

>t. lived in Lithuania for 5 years
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>>132033283
>Wrong.
Sure proved me right, huh, they will be your friends like that time your plane got mystically downed in over some russian forest?

you're really delusional, if it was 1930s you'd probably say Hitler would ally with Poland, haha
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>>132033395
yea Kaliningrad enclave

but with Belarus it would be much worse
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>>132033266
>"Poles" living in Lithuania are ethnically Lithuanian and that there was no actual large scale Polish migration into Lithuania.
It doesn't matter, or if it does, it's actually an argument for their right to live in Lithuania. They were Polish, because they seen themselves as Polish.
>>132033353
Good, go back to field then.
>>132033544
He actually allied with us for a moment (we partitioned Czechoslovakia together), but then eternal Anglo and French convinced us to ally with them and fuck goymany.
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>>132033283
>Goymany will be completely destabilized by non-white minorities in incoming times.
>times
What time frame are you even referring to? You do realize mass scale demographic shifts don't happen over the course of a couple of years, right? An invasion happens instantaneously, by comparison.
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>>132033014
Most of the things that they built are useless anyway. No factories, and the roads are almost as shitty as the Soviet built ones.
Do you really want to live your whole life on handouts? Then leave, that is why many have left for Germany, Ireland and so on. Fuck this foreign gibs crap.
I wish we could bring back the Lats and get rid of this Euro trash.
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>>132033075
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1606829/

Watch this if you trully want to understand. Not a shame to admit i cried watching it.
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>>132024491
Do you like die antwoord?
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>>132033669
>He actually allied with us for a moment (we partitioned Czechoslovakia together), but then eternal Anglo and French convinced us to ally with them and fuck goymany.

Yeah, I bet Ribbentrop had a great laugh about this when he talked about which city to take with Molotov, eh, I'm having a laugh right now at your delusion
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>>132033266
>ethnically Lithuanian

no such thing. Its a meme ethnicity invented out of local illiterate peasants by early XX cent edgy """intellectuals""". Luckily this joke is running out of time given their demographics.
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>>132032700
>ally with Russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIR_mS_ZjII
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>>132024965
No, we dont need alko-slowpokes anymore!
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>>132033669
I have a deck that needs building and I'd like to put an addition on the front of my house. When can you get your cousin over here?
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>>132033790
only when i am very drunk
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>>132033523
Ah, the typical "I am not a flithy Balt! I'm Nordic!" stuck-up Estonian crap.
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>>132033075
Tall and coordinated people in general, then won 1937 european championships and after that it just happened little by little. At the end of soviet era Zalgiris was kicking CSKA ass (in USSR that was a big big deal - all the best players had to go to army and play for CSKA(army club) so it could not lose). It was uniting and empowering. Then winning against USSR in Barcelona olympics as a free country was also huge. And then it just become very very popular, there is infrastructure, trainers, financing etc.
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>>132033669
>eternal Anglo and French
we should just all gather up, take some baseball bats and beat those two fucker countries up.
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reminder: real poles dropped their nazi-like imperialistic views and stopped looking at neighbours to annex
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>>132033708
I don't know yet.
>>132033816
That was after Anglo counter-offer.
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fuck off faggot, they are full
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>>132033068
It depends on city ,neighbourhood and either if u want house or apartment.
>>132033075
Its mostly due to tradition, historic sense of feeling more superior to russians (Kauno zalgiris btfo cska moscow), and specialization .
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>>132024491
Lithuanian language is ebin. Too bad they are dying out so fast.
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>>132034055
South Africans are an exception.
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>>132032785
kek
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>>132033669
>It doesn't matter, or if it does, it's actually an argument for their right to live in Lithuania. They were Polish, because they seen themselves as Polish.
Actually from what I know they were well aware of their roots. They only advocated for civic nationalist Pole or Polish-Lithuanian. Mickiewicz said that Poles and Lithuanians are like English and Scots in that sense.
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>>132034055
why are you mean to me?
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>>132033849
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>>132033523
it's the bottomfeeders that are leaving the country because they are too stupid to get a job.
>be very smart
>fly to ireland to pick berries
???
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>>132033849
Well Pilsudski though he had Lithuanian roots, Mickiewicz too.
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>>132033733
who are " they" ? You think EU bureaucrats decide what to build in some eastern ex-com county? I can't tell, anyway.

It was a chance to get funds and do something, look at Estonia, a great example, the fact that our great leaders under (((freiberga))) ransacked it all and still continue? As opposed to actually investing and building those "factories" you're talking about?

By the way there are factories still, but the way we operated before was a single county of a vast mechanism, transitioning to a individual entity, with greedy leadership and unproductive factories resulted into what we had around early 2000s

I mean, this is where your pessimist actually shows, the average Latvian doesn't know jack shit about the economy of his country, I mean can you even call a single manufacturing plant? A single renowned IT company?
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>>132034189
Because you haven't posted your hand yet to prove whiteness.

But if you are a nigger, then you would be perfectly fitting to the shituanian society :)

>>132034265
"Litwin" meant for them just anyone who lived in the territory of Grand Duchy. Modern "lithuanians" were seen as "samogitians".
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>>132034077
A family home I would love to move there and teach English or be a Psychologist/psychiatrist
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>>132034017
Sure, sure
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>>132033986
this
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>>132034408
dlaczego bronisz żmudzinów, cucku?
oni nie umieją nawet uszanować polskiej mniejszosci... a własciwie WIĘKSZOSCI w litwie srodkowej
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>>132032380
I know, that's why I wrote Litvak (lithuanian jew). There is a possibility for Litvaks to get double citizenship (or at least was). He needs to dig into it if he is serious.
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>>132033479
sorry mate nope
>>132034055
dont lie :D , we have as much land as netherlands+ belgium combined,also negative population drop, so its far from that .
>>132034099
True , if only we could give the last death
blow to russia before our eternal extinction brother , that would be glorious.
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>>132034408
What about Lwow? The weak Ukrainians aren't making good use of your rightful clay.
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>>132034368
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>>132034225
this only proves my point
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>>132033986
lmao saved
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>>132034368
>were seen as "samogitians"
But Pilsudski hailed from Samogitian noble family and Gabriel Narutowicz was born in Samogitia, his brother identified as a Samogitian.
>>132034602
Ah okay, but if he is a kike he needs to fuck off.
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>>132034265
they meant Lithuania as a region of Poland
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>>132033479
Emigrate to Kaunas, lots of farmland, better folk better landscape (more rivers and shit) and probably the most lithuanian* city. Vilnius may be more developed/(((progressive))), has better city center more job opportunities etc, but only arrogant faggots and polaks with russkies live there, it is also the most libtard city in Lithuania. If you like living near the sea then choose Klaipėda I guess..
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>>132033876
Too bad that Russian AI sucks ass. I had to fight german reich 1vs1 totally despite the fact that I was communist and soviets were called into that war.
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>>132034788
And cuturally they were Polish... and they seen themselves as Poles.
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>>132034688
Don't even mention Lwów..

It still triggers me. I live very close to eastern border so I visit Lwów every now and then.
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>>132034354
Accepting any "funds" was a mistake. The EU was a mistake.
>MUH FACTORIES
They are ALL centarized now, and they are importing Chinese to operate them because the ones living outside the big cities can't get to them.
Your EU gibs and centralization is what is fucking our country up more than anything else. This is what made us dependant on foreign influence in the first place.
Once this stops, there will be a CHANCE to fix this, if you don't run off like the rest, in search of an easier life.
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>>132034807
Really? But even Poles regarded it as an Union of both nations with separate institutions, army, budget, territory ect
>>132034935
Usually they would say both, and you can see them either way depending how you see nationalism either ethnic or civic.
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>>132034848
i dont like russians so much, they have tried for years to take over my country. so will want to stay away from places with lots of russians.
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>>132034567
bo gówno masz a nie prawo do jakiego miejsca w europie, tysiące lat, setki narodów, co dekade nowe granice

z naszej historii jestem dumny i z tego że pozatykalismy w połowie europy nasze flagi ale to nie znaczy ze miast z przed wchuj lat jest jakos magicznie 'nasze' na zawsze.

i nie, nie 'uszanują' polskiej mniejszosci, nikt kurwa nigdzie nie szanuje zadnej mniejszosci. To kurwa definicja mniejszosci.
I tak, ja wiem, Ty pewnie 'szanujesz' wszystkie mniejszosci.
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>>132034688
There are no Poles left in Lwów or east galicia/volhynia, while there are still a lot of Poles in Lithuania to care about.

Some were murdered by ukrainian "partisans", and some were forced to leave and settle in "Ostgebeite" by Soviet authorities, while they didn't pay as much attention to removing Poles from Lithuania, for they didn't even want ethnically homogenous Pribaltika.
>>132035274
Even if they described themselves as "Lithuanian", then they referred to Geographical region, and not to lithuanian peasants.
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>>132032470
So how large was the population? What is pi value? Random sampling is wrong in this situation as its just too easy to get simply unlucky with your sample. It must take people randomly but from different background, education, regions etc. Each country with same proportions to have meaningful comparison. That's just statistics 101. I doubt that retarded pole complaining about IQ knows anything about that.
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>>132024491
It has massively high crime rates and organised mafias.

T.assisted their police with repatriation/deportation of their criminal scum
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>>132034382
from 100 000 -300 000 for land + house materials ,it really depends on details and land price .Sorry not much expert on housing
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>>132035493
you do realise i live in south africa. your massively high crime rates sounds like a peacefull utopia. the reason i am looking at lithuania is because they have a relatively cheap way out for me. the other is Uruguay. Both are infinitely safer than here.
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>>132034382
>Psychologist/psychiatrist
i don't think such a thing even exists in this part of the world.
Here people just drink their problems away, and kill themselves if it doesn't work.
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>>132035383
>>132035383
>bo gówno masz a nie prawo do jakiego miejsca w europie, tysiące lat, setki narodów, co dekade nowe granice
aha, czyli Polacy żyjący od wieków na Litwie nie mają żadnych praw i powinni być w domysle traktowani jak gówno?

Zajeb się smieciu.

>i nie, nie 'uszanują' polskiej mniejszosci, nikt kurwa nigdzie nie szanuje zadnej mniejszosci. To kurwa definicja mniejszosci.
Co ty pierdolisz ty pierdolony debilu. My na przykład szanujemy ich mniejszosc i nie skrzeczymy przez dwujęzyczne polsko-litewskie tabliczki, a oni tak. A u nich POLACY SĄ WIĘKSZOSCIĄ w niektórych rejonach.

>ale to nie znaczy ze miast z przed wchuj lat jest jakos magicznie 'nasze' na zawsze
no i tego nie powiedziałem, ja chcę tylko aby żmudzini uszanowali polską większosć żyjącą tam, najlepiej dając im autonomię

ale w sumie to nie narzekałbym litwę srodkową w granicach Polski, albo Rosji, bo mamy do niej takie same prawo jak gównojady
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>>132035959
I'd go with Uruguay in all seriousness. They're also very unlikely to have problems with their neighbours
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>>132035397
>Even if they described themselves as "Lithuanian", then they referred to Geographical region, and not to lithuanian peasants.
That is civic nationalist way of thinking, even though they were brought up in a way that was very much influenced by Polish culture they were still descended from the same Lithuanian peasants.
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>>132035153
You can't name anything, what the fuck is wrong with you, one post you're crying about no factories, the beloved latvians cry about daily in their wet dreams about USSR, the next - you're mad because apparently no latvians is working there

How are you certain of it? I mean you haven't got a clue about the EU funding, the housing crisis, our general economical situation, how in the fuck do you say it all and be convinced of it?
You have to understand that we fucked up huge, as I stated before, what could have been is north and what could have been 2 - a bit worse, is in the south, and that's as realistic as it gets.

Okay, take it that EU funds stop, with the current state of our country, what do you propose? we're geographically alone a country that cannot deal without foreign influence at this time especially, it's not 1920 where war-ravaged Europe was a 0 starting point for everyone, especially us.

And just drop the centralization shit, it would happen with or without EU, the housing crisis was a bigger propellant in it too, people leaving to Riga and surrounding areas, bigger cities for search of jobs etc, the other regions will die out inevitably
Just to disprove your EU=centralization meme, Russia is not in EU and influenced by only, well, Russia, yet regions like Pskov, like other regions with a main city, they are all dead, absolutely empty, everyone migrates to the city due to shit economy
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>>132036243
>wet dreams about USSR
Ok. You can go fuck yourself.
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>>132035493
its not 2004 anymore rotten teeth bong ,all always have been locked up and local mafia dismantled.
U should be worrying more about roaming paki rape gangs than us .
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>>132036096
its just real estate is just so cheap in the baltics. the organized crime there is like albania level?
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>>132024491
Well actually no and you can simply google out why. Still, if there will be some war in near future, shit can happen, but Lithuania is very strong and independent right now, you polack scum.
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>>132035984
Oh that sucks I mean the psych Jew is dangerous if people abuse their power, but it could do alot of good for these post communism countries. You guys are already on the fast track to being the most well-off countries on the planet just a decade or two more left of shit for you :)
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>>132036452
Nice rebuttal you absolute fucking idiot, this right here is why Latvia is in such a shit state, because of worthless fools, with little to no reading comprehension

Good luck crying about 100 cabbage heads or whatever you do whilst chugging a cheap beer and complaining
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>>132036712
wat?
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>>132024491
Just go to Estonia. With the exception of their weird language, you will be way more happy there.
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>>132036682
>Albania level
Not even close mate, crime really isn't that bad here.
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>>132036901
How do you expect to learn Lithuanian so quick if you can afford land ?
It's not easy for adults to learn language , if you can't do it there's no point of moving there
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>>132036682
what do u mean by albania level? no one will ever racketeer your buisness and police will always do their job if u report any crime . its not 90s man , no more drive by shootings,car bombings, racket , serious mafia was dismantled or emigrated ,left overs only focus on drug sales and stolen cars from usa .
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I hear Poland is pretty redpilled. You should also check that out SAnon. But Lithuania seems pretty good.
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>>132036946
i cannot afford to get estii investor visa.
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>>132024491
>Lithuania
>I have experience in farming, livestock, tobacco, wheat, onions, garlic etc on commercial scale.

Are You sure, that this is a good place for farming? What about Romania or Moldova?
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>>132037058
How does affording land equate to learning a new language? Is this a new Irish study?
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>Its Eastern Europeans crying how bad they have episode
I hate reruns
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>>132037352
we have also farmed with potatoes
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>>132036682
There are some crime like everywhere but nothing serious definitely not Albanian level. Police would actually help you if needed. One problem in regions can be drunk bydlo. They might steal something so need to watch out if you do farming. In Vilnius I often don't even lock my car though.
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>>132037352
It is OK place for farming. It would be great if South African would teach us about livestock and good meat. There definitely is a market for that here as it is hard to get good quality beef or it is very expensive.
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>>132024491
Fuck off, were full
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>>132029773
Latvia feels less soviet, and lithuanian food is shittier.
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>>132032785
i am so white the chart doesn't show it
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>>132024491
Lithuania must become Great Belarus again.
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