I'm reminded of the fable (from the bible?) that said in hell there was a bowl of rice and everyone had chopsticks too big to reach their mouths, so they go without rice. in heaven, the exact same thing happens except everyone uses their chopsticks to feed their neighbours.
give me fifty reasons why this isn't an analogy of a proper Communist society and why people wouldn't be better off with it.
>>132023465
wishful thinking, commie faggot.
>>132023465
because at some point, some humans will demand 70% of your rice so that it can be more evenly distributed.
>>132023465
Communism's retarded, syndicalism's the best ideology.
>>132023465
Why dont they just hold the chopsticks lower?
>biblical fable
>analogy of communism
>millennia prior to the conception of communism
Feeling anachronistic today are we commie? Also, you really want 50 reasons to disprove your shirty Marxist thinking? How about you to take a look at all of the successful communist states we have today that aren't founded on poverty and political prisoners? It defies human nature.
This is definitely not from the Bible
>>132023465
how does my neighbor know how hungry I am? how do I know how much to feed my neighbor?
>>132023465
Chopsticks. In the bible. Sure.
I'd break mine into several usable sized chopsticks and sell them to my fellow hellions in exchange for some of their rice.
>>132024678
Syndicalism leads to open borders and multiculturalism. Communist leadership does the opposite for your country.
>>132026243
Communism is literally supposed to be an ideology without borders.
>>132026187
Why am I not surprised a Jew would go to hell
>>132023465
I fucking hate rice.
Check and mate pinko shitters.
I would agree with that other guy that Syndicalism in general achieves everything communism aims to achieve better with fewer of the obvious repercussions we've all seen play out multiple times in the past.
>>132023465
>everyone had chopsticks too big to reach their mouths
What
>>132023465
If you have hands to hold chopsticks you have hands to eat rice.
>>132023465
>Chopsticks and rice
>Bible
There's a chinese version of the Bible?
>>132026388
Borders will be just temporary, just as the state apparatus. For how long trough? Comrade stalin gave us a good estimate of 1000 years.
>>132027234
The thing with communism is that you need to have an extremely selfless leader because most of the time you get a dictator who won't give up their supposedly temporary power. Most of the time this results in a dictatorship.
Meanwhile with syndicalism most of the power lies within the trade unions ran by workers.
There has yet to be a communist leader who was a good enough human being to make it work
There will probably never be one
Power really does corrupt
>>132023465
Its even from Paradise Lost
Would you rather serve in heaven, or potentially reign in hell?
>>132027856
I'd rather reign in heaven.
But out of those two I'd settle for middle management in hell.
>>132027791
Tito perhaps
>>132028320
Perhaps, he was authoritarian without a doubt but argument can be made that he held Yugoslavia together at a time where most would have failed and served his people well.
Shame he died of gangrene, what a retarded thing to die of, doctoring in 1980s Yugoslavia must've been shit.
>>132027542
Democratic centralism does that already. We had selfless leaders like Lenin,Stalin and Mao already.
>>132029231
Stalin was the exact opposite of selfless and Mao and Lenin kicked the bucket before true communism could have been implemented.
>>132023465
>chopsticks too big to feed yourself
>break chopsticks until they're the right size
>sell correct-length chopsticks and chopstick shortening services to other people
>>132029231
Stalin selfless lol
Fucking LOL
>>132029361
Stop being so sectarian, comrade.
>>132029511
American Heaven
>>132027171
Of course there was.
>>132023465
Only one reason and that is enough:
Freerider problem: Almost immediately someone will realize that getting fed but not feed someone else is individually more profitable than getting fed and also feed someone else. It takes little imagination what will inevitably happen then.
Btw, all "hell" really needs at this point is proper organisation, you know, like any working business....
>>132023465
It's Chinese actually, a Chinese story.
Now, because I know you are an imbecile, let me explain why it is a PHENOMENAL analogy in very simple terms.
1: "Proper" Communist societies don't exist because Communism isn't real. It was a lie from start to finish to convince gullible idiots like you to give power to people like Vladimir Lenin, Fidel Castro, or Robert Mugabe. Or Mao Zedong. So, much like Hell, it isn't real. The fable is correct.
2: Notice how in this fable there is no discussion of the mass-theft of food from farmers to redistribute to these fat fucks eating out of bowls with elaborate chopsticks. It is actually the perfect representation of a Communist society: Everyone is doing something pointless and stupid and someone off-camera is slaving away to feed them at gunpoint.
3: It would be easier in every single regard if everyone just had normal fucking chopsticks and just ate out of their own fucking bowl. So, much like Communism is objectively inferior to Capitalism because it places ludicrous restrictions on free enterprise, every problem in Chinese Hell could easily be solved by removing the overcomplicated apparatus imposed upon the people living in it.
The only thing that really rules it out from being a perfect Communist allegory is that there's food to eat.
>>132027542
Only achievable if every citizen is replaced by a machine. To be a communist you must renounce to every one of your dreams and ambition in life. If isn't for the benefit of the "people" and the communist party to the gulag you go.
Selfless leader and selfless insectoid people who work, suffer, die and sleep without dreams. Sounds like hell to me.
>>132029907
That's a big Jesus
>>132023465
>communism is heaven
That's why it's impossible. Earth is not Heaven
It exists between Heaven and Hell
That's why you have people feeding each other and people failing to feed themselves in equal measure
Jesus Christ, go to the underworld and save your fucking father from the dragon you nonce
>>132031767
I was literally just trying to find a work a Peterson reference in there because this whole thing sounds like the sort of thing he would talk about.
>>132031681
4u mona mi
>>132026187
>'d break mine into several usable sized chopsticks and sell them to my fellow hellions in exchange for some of their rice.
Proud of you, son.
>>132026243
>not knowing about the ComIntern
This is why it's impossible to have constructive conversations with you fucking communists. You know literally nothing about the history of communism.
I've decided: I hate communists more than larping Nazis. At least Nazis know something about national socialism.
>>132029231
You're having a laff, right?
I really hope you're making funny jokes because that's the dumbest fucking statement I've read all year
>>132032206
Ye.
Still, Stalin was the best of all communist leaders.
>>132031087
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>>132032206
It's a coping mechanism because the mental imagery of leftist scum shrieking for their lives in Finland while their fingers are being broken by right wing men is bad enough without imagining Joseph Stalin patting his warm, full belly after gorging himself on rich red roast beef and suckling pig.
It's actually funny because we have a first-hand witness of this exact thing happening. While the Red Army was being butchered in the tens of thousands in the snow, crying for their mommies as they were starved, frozen and shot by Finns, Voroshilov threw a tantrum at Stalin and specifically smashed a plate of suckling pig with his hands for being scolded. Nikita Khrushchev was one of the witnesses.
Mmm mmmm mmmmmmm! Nothing makes me enjoy the fruits of my labor more than being tortured to death in a forest while some Georgian bank robber feasts on suckling pig in his warm dachau.
>>132032665
Fuck you I`m finnish.
Stalin`s attack was justified against proto-fascist government of Finland, especially since they had provoked Soviets with heimosodat.
>>132023465
wew uncanny
floor is exactly the same as in my own room
>>132032916
>bringing up fascism in an argument about communism
The chief difference between fascism and communism is that communism murdered more people for worse reasons and worked less well. You've got a lot of nerve bringing up the ethics of "Greater X" when the USSR was usurping entire countries and displacing entire ethnic groups on a whim with regularity.
You know what would've been better than the Winter War? Doing literally nothing. None of it had to happen. Russia didn't need to invade Finland, Russia didn't need to work with the Reich to invade Poland, Russia could have sat on its hands and done NOTHING and the world would be a better place today.
You know why it isn't? Because Stalin needed more roast beef. They must've killed all of the actual men in your country 80 years ago for Finnland to produce girls like you. Endorsing the invasion of your own people. Pathetic.
>>132032916
>an attack on my nation was justified
wew
>>132023465
Because communism makes sure that there's no rice to feed your neighbors.
>>132023465
Give a man a fish he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish he eats for a lifetime.
>>132023465
>(from the bible?)
>rice
>chopsticks
>in the bible
Fucking hell man, and I thought I was a mess.
>>132026187
>>132031087