Titanic Coverup

>no radar on board because it wasn't invented
>goes full speed through iceberg country
>can't see shit captn

>>132005801
Look at who was on board. Influential people.

>>132006280
The Astor guy, for one.

Wow, you are a racist cis faggot OP and this is fake news

>>132006182
>country known for pushing prototypes into action
>rising tensions between civilized world and germany
>No radar, no sonar on civilian ship
>knows they can get away with it scott free
>a country that has a past of being homicidal maniacs and progressing technology at any cost

>muh iceberg

>>132005801
Funny how a group of influential people that opposed the creation of the Federal Reserve just happened to be aboard that ship.

My biggest fear right here

>>132005801

>(((Iceberg)))

Everytime!

>>132005801
They swapped the ships out and killed a bunch of people who were agains the fed. It is known

>>132006593
it was an accident dude

why would the captain and the crew agree to a suicide mission?

they had bad sight, no radar and spotting shit in the dark over big distance is hard.

I'll just drop this here.

http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1907-03-19.htm

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The titanic was planned, primarily as an assassination to kill those who were against the Fed reserve.

Even more proof that Woodrow Wilson should never have been born.

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>>132006612
proofs?

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>>132006996
This one's a pretty well known fact.

>>132005801
Well, we all know who loves to make money on deaths and tragedies.

>>132006785
>implying the captain and crew were even aware of the plan
I'm very interested in this theory... what indicators on the wreckage would say torpedo attack?

>>132007094
but didn the people who survived say they heard the crash and saw the iceberg?

>>132006785
Oh yeah, an (((accident)))
>captcha: (((kauf)))

>>132006963
When you know something the whole time but didn't know it but now you know it for sure

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>>132006963
Woodrow Wilson and FDR are the two worst presidents, can't tell which one is worse desu

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>>132007073
i'm always on the lookout for new proofs or evidence in case anyone has any

>>132007199
Yes there were icebergs in those waters, but that doesn't necessarily mean the ship hit the iceberg

>>132007094
Just the fact that the ship broke in half or "broke its back" is a huge indicator of such. This is exactly what torpedoes do to a ship, not what icebergs do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27vRt6S6aZo

Granted the yields are different, but look at the point of detonation and the aftermath of the ship. Broken in half. Perfectly. Just like the titanic. Iceberg my ass.

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guys, I think I'm transforming into a full /pol/acks now.

There's absolutely no way an iceberg could've sunk the Titanic. Go look up the tensile strength of steel and ice. Steel is literally 100 times stronger. Say it with me, /pol/:

ICEBERGS CAN'T CRACK STEEL HULLS

>>132007199
What they heard was the torpedo detonating and the following breaking of the ship. They were later told it was an iceberg so their stories and memories of the event changed to fit that narrative.

>>132007312
Wilson approved of the (((Federal Reserve))) and sold the ass of the country to the (((Rothschilds))). On top of that he was one of the key negotiators of the (((Treaty of Versailles))) and created the (((League of Nations))).

FDR forced the US into (((WWII))) (which it along with the UK and France were technically at fault for) as well as being one of the heads of the operation that demonized Hitler, nationalism and National Socialism. Also worked with the (((USSR))) and (((Churchill))) to create the world's greatest hoax: the Holohoax.

Take your pick because those two men were demons on earth.

>>132007558
Now thinking about it, the iceberg allegedly struck the front of the ship, the way it broke up if that's the case makes no sense.

But wouldn't a submarine have to navigate itself through an ice field to hit the titanic?

>>132008024
I feel compelled to pick FDR of the two, as he not only collaborated with the USSR and sent millions of Eastern Euros into Stalins gulags, but also brought in communist agents to influence US policy

Both men are Rats

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>>132007758
>ICEBERGS CAN'T CRACK STEEL HULLS

>>132005801
The iceberg was payed by Mossad

>>132007073
Well there is just no such thing as coincidences. More like (((cohencidences)))

This is just to damn much of the same thing

>>132008084
A prototype U boat is difficult to see especially at night. If the titanic could navigate the seas a submersible roughly a third of the size wouldn't have a problem at all. They could have followed the ship for an entire day waiting for night to carry out the attack.

>>132008084
When a ship that size sinks at the bow the weight of the stern elevated from the water is enough to break the hull amidship. This has happened with countless cargo vessels.

Doesn't prove the iceberg or disprove anything else but it is a normal occurrence.

>>132008263
Also note that he was as his predecessor the creator of yet another globalist jewish organization: the (((United Nations))), which unlike the (((League))) still plagues humanity today.

At the same time though Wilson was a clear marxist in the closet. His ideological egalitarianism and naivety shares far too much in common with the works of Marx. In fact one could argue that Wilson pushed Marxism in the US and is one of the main reasons that Trotskyists and other sorts of filth are rife in all levels of government.

>>132006785
>still believing in the iceberg hoax in 2017
Open your eyes, sheeple.

Could it possibly be some other military vessel that destroyed it than a u-boat, the certain influential people on board weren't enemies of the germans were they?

>>132008483
Ok
>>132008412
Well that's another thing, who owned this supposed U-Boat? I mean which country did it originate from?

>>132005801
The Titanic didn't sink, it's sister ship did. They wrecked the sister ship before it's maiden voyage so they swapped it with the Titanic so that they could sink it and collect the insurance. There was supposed to be a ship nearby to rescue everyone when it hit the iceberg, but the rescue ship got off course and missed the queue.

>>132008663
U-Boats were a German invention which makes this theory slightly questionable. Why would the Germans of WWI give aid to the Jews that wished to enslave the US financially?

>>132008565
Yea, he also created 16th and 17th amendments, both awful in their own right

>>132008483
Are you saying the Titanic collapsed under its own weight. You show me even one instance in which ICE causes a steel structure to collapse into its own footprint, and maybe I will start believing you are not a shill.

>>132008744
Well pre WWI Germany was just as jewed as the rest of Europe at the time

>>132005801

it was a coal fire that forced the ship at full speed through dangerous waters because otherwise the trip would have been delayed or ran out of fuel in the middle of the ocean. also the delays would have caused financial difficulty for the owners of the ship.

also you're a retard.

>>132006963
>Woodrow Wilson wasn't the President yet.

>>132005801

it wasn't the Titanic, though. It was the Olympic for the insurance money.

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>>132008879
>oh shit he's right
Mfw

>>132008879
Except that he was the one who gave the go signal for the Fed Rev. If he had never been elected then the Fed Rev would arguably never have gone anywhere and the third US Rothschild Central Private Bank would have been a failure. Making the deaths of the Titanic less impactful.

>>132008846
>it was a coal fire that forced the ship at full speed through dangerous waters because otherwise the trip would have been delayed or ran out of fuel in the middle of the ocean. also the delays would have caused financial difficulty for the owners of the ship.
wew lad that massive blue pill must have been a doozy to swallow. You do realize the simplest conclusion is usually the correct one right? Incredible series of unfortunate events or a straight and simple torpedo detonation?

Bongs, you're smarter than this.

>>132005801
>Pardon me sir but I noticed you're a gentleman of a massive size
>For you, perhaps

>>132007758
The steel was made too quickly and was brittle, it cracked and didn't bend.

>>132008846
A coal fire? Coal only burns at 3590 degrees. But the Titanic was half-submerged in water. Water boils at 212 degreez. If there really was a coal fire aboard the Titanic, it would have melted the ship amd boiled the ocean. You know what does neither? A torpedo. Check mate. Another shill BTFO.

>>132005801

Nice try Alex jones.

>>132009074
Some people don't want the truth desu.

>>132008840
Nah Germany was always the epi-center of jew hatred

>>132005801
Shill thread

>>132005801
>The damage done was indicative of a torpedo strike.
unlikely

probably just an iceberg

the only conspiracy theory that seems interesting in this context is the one that says opponents of the federal reserve act of 1913 were purposely killed on that ship

>>132009413
>shill post

>>132009155

this has been debunked. the steel was fine.

>>132009355
No you daft idiot. It was a central hub of jewerey. Hitler had simply had enough being surrounded by it growing up.

The Titanic went to bottom because the architect who dreamed the plans up didnt think of the fact that water will fill the compartments and flood to the others regardless being higher than water level.
I think it was an accident.Shit happens.

I feel like this shitpost is more a commentary on how ridiculous most conspiracy theories are. Pointing out similarities and (((coincidences))) but mostly conjecture. 10/10 OP

>>132009355
>always the epicenter of Jew hatred
Nigga are you retarded? Germany had one of the highest population of Jews in Europe, historically they've always been very friendly towards Jews, that's why when the Jews betrayed them in WWI, they were so angry

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>>132009528
>The Titanic went to bottom because the architect who dreamed the plans up didnt think of the fact that water will fill the compartments and flood to the others regardless being higher than water level.
design incompetance doesn't disprove the torpedo theory though

>>132009442
>unlikely
But is it really so unlikely? What really precipitated Weimar anyway? Most would say Versailles. I might argue that it was this event, delicately designed by international bankers to set the stage for the fall of the west. Why was Titanic the highest-grossing mov in history? Who gains? I'll give you one guess.

>>132009541
This. Why else do you think nearly every single Ashkenazi jewish name is partially german in origin?

>>132009528
>muh design incompetance
>muh compartments
Iceberg shills never change.

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>>132009788
>Who gains?
muh young dick when i saw those titties getting drawn for "artistic" purposes

>>132009811
Wasn't it some German naturalization act in the 18th century that did that? They attempted to assimilate the kikes and failed horribly

>>132009074
>incredible series of unfortunate events
Ships used to get sunk by icebergs all the time, the International Ice Patrol set up after Titanic is still a thing

I just realized. We should bring this to the attention to Trump. If any president would spill the beans on the true fate of the titanic to the public via social media it would be the god emperor himself. Just post to his twitter that the damage done to the titanic was indicative of a torpedo strike.

>>132006593
You forgot
>(((someone))) had full coverage insurance on the Titanic

>>132009907
Exactly. See how die untermensch seduces the Jewel of Europe? THEY ACT IN PLANE SITE!

>>132010138
Who was that (((someone))) anon?

>>132010017
This is the most important mission of our age. Operation: Huge Torpedo. He probably already knows and is being silenced desu.

>>132009788
You're trying too hard.

>>132008836
The hull was already breached from a collision before the maiden voyage. They hastily patched and painted it and created a plan to collect the insurance money by ramming an unfixable RMS Olympic, disguised as Titanic, into an iceberg. The plan went wrong though, and cost thousands of lives.

>>132009788
>I might argue that it was this event, delicately designed by international bankers to set the stage for the fall of the west.
well
i personally consider it possible that the conspiracy theory is true

but I just dont believe that a torpedo was shot
I think they just went full speed and steered the ship into risky waters on purpose to sink it
that's at least possible

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>>132005801
yep heres a good piece right here

just another red pill to dish out for the newfags.
http://www.williammurdoch.net/articles_34_Titanic_switch_theory_03.html

>>132009725
Well.Think about it.
Before the FED,did the jews have power enough to get a sub there on time and torpedo it succesfully and keep a lid on it all this time since?
They didnt.
Looking at the passenger list,and the fact that coincidences never happen by themselfes,logic would point at a fucked up operation.
Like,the captain wated to scrape the iceberg to damage the ship and use it as a cover accident,but the captain fucked up and instead of damaging he sank the ship.

>>132010468
Ships that collide with icebergs don't sink in a fashion that breaks their back.

>>132010413
I think they call this the "semi-official" story.

>>132010610
not sure about that explain

>>132010610

How do you know how ships sink? You a marine engineer or shipwreck investigator?

>>132010704
Iceberg-sunk ships just slowly go under, not explode in half.

>>132010597
German Uboats officially went into service 2 years after the sinking of the Titanic. They definitely had prototypes before then and in Atlantic waters. And I should probably remind you that years later a main german tactic was to use U-boats to sink merchant vessels from reaching the UK.

The Titanic was the largest ship they could target at the time so they needed to see how much damage their torpedoes of the time could do to the largest of ships. They were already thinking that far ahead.

>>132005801
The jew that built it cut corners really hard, otherwise it would have been able to handle the icenerg

>>132010794
didnt explode
it broke when it sank on side side faster than the other

>>132007268
sauce?

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it didn't sink because the ice "cut" the steel, it deformed it and the rivets couldn't handle the stress and pressure

shitty construction did the rest in sinking the ship.

>>132010794
Thats a bold statement,mate.There are 28 known ships sunk by icebergs,none of the comes any close to the size of the Titanic.
Therefore you dont have any data to back up your argument,not even statistics.

>>132010931
I bet you think the WTC didn't explode either. Who pays you guys to come and derail redpilling threads with these weird myths anyway?

>>132010971
So much false evidence has been created over the years it's baffling.

>muh rivets

>>132011084
>I bet you think the WTC didn't explode either.
pfff Ive been arguing that since 2006
and hard
try something else

>>132005801
The Titanic was a insurance cover up that went wrong. The Olympia took damage and used parts to of the ship that would be the Titanic. To make up costs to complete the Titanic and get a boat load of money, the ship company switch the names of the ships. The company planned to sink the ship and even covered up the engraved letters of the Olympia with a steel plate being held by steel letters of the Titanic. A cargo ship carrying a large supply of winter coats was supposed to rescue the people of the sinking Olympia. The cargo ship mistake a fishing vessel signal flares as the Titanic flares. Fishing vessel signal all clear so the cargo ship kept following.

https://youtu.be/K7dSMvI6zG4

No if you want to believe that the six richest most powerful families were killed by the remaining 6 families looking into the fishing vessel.

plebs
educate yourselves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saHs6J0OXVI

>>132011064
Out of those 28 how many broke cleanly in half?

>>132010900
>prototype sub
>no radar no sonar
>finding the Titanic
>attacking the Titanic
>hitting the Titanic
Man you know shit about subs.
There is a greater chance of aliens sinking the Titanic than german prototype subs with prototype torpedoes.

>>132011064
So you're saying all ships sunk by icebergs didn't break in half and therefore the Titanic, which was the biggest ship of its time, did because this single instance is a body of evidence amd even though it flies in the face of all other imstances, it's okay because most huge ship ever. Gotcha.

>>132010574
Thanks for the blue pill, but the eroded lettering on the wreckage imply Olympic much more than Titanic. For the switch theory to be false, at some point in time the Titanic lettering would have to have been replaced with the Olympic lettering.

>>132010413
>The plan went wrong though, and cost thousands of lives.

>the plan went wrong

So, the insurance didn't pay out?

>>132005801
Brits needed a trigger for WW1 or their empire could have sunk prematurely.

>>132011151
So overcomplicated. Again, huge series of unfortunate events. The tell-tale sign of a shoddy misdirection or outright lie. Probably one to placate early conspiracy theorists, to silence them from further investigating and finding the truth. It was absolutely a torpedo attack. Straight, simple.

>>132006182
No torpedos back in 1912 either

>>132011225
>doesn't matter because the Titanic was the biggest ship and only the biggest ship breaks in half when it sinks so you are an idiot.
You can't talk sense to some people.

>>132005801
Having lived in conspiracy world for most of my life I have come to the conclusion that most theorists have no ability to objectively collect and examine evidence.

As a hint, look into the ship line that ran the titantic and the sister ships.

Second hint: think insurance fraud.

>>132011327
>implying it wasn't arranged and organized from the start

neck yourself cunt, also you didn't even click the link because you would of fucked up straight off the bat

>>132011225
>dumbfuckistan
Go on,proud dumbfuckistani,tell everyone how you want to compare a ship the size and complex constrution the Titanic with research boats and sailboats.Even if all 27 ships would break in half you still could not say thats how they sink because its statistically not enough data to draw conclusions.
Yet here you are shilling and arguing like a dumbfuckistiani with no education at all.

>>132011301
There were working torpedoes as early as 1880. I think you need to learn your history my man.

Also it's easy to find a gigantic civilian vessel with enormous smoke stacks especially if you've been told where to wait.

>>132011438
A bomb would be simpler

FIRE weakened the hull so an iceberg could easily sink the Titanic.
Unfortunately fire couldn't do the job on the WTC ibeams.

>>132011689
Bomb would be too obviously foul play. That's bush league stuff anon.

>>132011734
Whoa. Wrong, but whoa.

>>132011311
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>>132011598
Go on,argue how you are master lookout and can see smoke stacks in the night.
The sub could not have waited for them,because the Titanic changed course to race for crossing the ocean.
Sub didnt had any chance catching it.

>>132011590
Only the horrifically blue pilled become incoherent and violent when confronted with the truth.

>>132011689
They would have to rig the whole ship with bombs. Which they might have, just to make sure the torpedo got the job done.

>>132011832
Yes. G HW Bush league
Simple. Effective.

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>>132008836
I hope you're not actually this retarded. I'm talking about the mechanism for breaking a ship in half as a result of sinking due to hull breach at either end instead of the middle, where it breaks.

You're making 9/11 references and accusing me of shilling, for what I'm uncertain. You're either shitposting or an actual retard.

Why did OP fail to mention the coal fire??
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/coal-fire-may-have-helped-sink-titanic-180961699/

>>132011862
Unless it followed it out of port and waited for it to be out of range of rescue ships. Did your mother have a child that lived?

>>132011920
Go on,entertain me.It was you who made it clear you need to be handled as the obvious retard you are.
You dont even know that americans righfully earned the designaton dumbfuckistan after all of you eat up 9/11 like the retards you are.

>>132011862
You're still clinging to the blue pill that the ship went full speed to race across the ocean. You need to scrub that lie from your mind.

The titanic was going a normal speed and the U-boat was simply able to identify it during the day, then follow it until the night. Nighttime also increases the chance of false eyewitness reports. Say it was an iceberg and everyone's recollection shifts to fit that.

>>132011920
Or it could be that people become frustrated with people who choose to ignore all evidence except that which fits their preconceived notion.

Tell me, did you think "Titanic was sunk by a torpedo" first, and then go looking for evidence to support it, or did you come to that conclusion after looking at the evidence?

>>132011857
You didn't know about the coal fire, right?

Just the titanic was a cover up. But as always /pol/ believes the most retarded shit without proof.

Titanic was a scam. They replaced titanic with its older brother and sink it to get money, but the plan failed. It's well documented, and makes more sense than the federal Reserve shit. Why would they bother to change ships of it was only about the federal reserve


I know barely anyone caresand the federal reserve shit is more fun and tinfoil, but this short docu is pretty cool

https://youtu.be/gRvMPc1KuJQ

>>132012076
>shilling for whom
Asks the shill with the pirate flag...

>>132008836
Ships are designed to float in the water, not have one end sinking as it floods while the other end raises out of the water. The centerline of a ship is not made to bear the weight of half of the ship in the air. I hope you are just a troll and not really this stupid.

>>132011476
This is dumb and false, torpedos were sinking ships in the Russo-Japanese War. Modern torpedos were invented in 1866.

>>132012110
See you idiot.You dont understand.The Titanic had a listed speed of 24 knots.
WW2 subs had above water tops speed under 20 knots,submerged even under 10 knots.
Go on,dumbfuckistani,argue how your magic sub followed the Titanic.

>>132012154
No Sub from that time would have been able to follow the titanic and plot an ambush.

Titanic was fast as fuck and subs from that time were slow as shit

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>>132012154
>false eyewitness reports

So the crew of the steamer that saw red paint on the iceberg before they were even aware of the ship sinking were making it up?

>>132012076
It broke in half, cleanly. A ship that does this due to stress of sinking will not cleanly break in half. The it would still be attached to some degree if the collapsing theory were true.

>>132012227
This is my favorite line of reasoning? Profoundly complex plot involving literally hundreds of coconspirators? The truth! A single torpedo that only a small handful of people would ever know about? Absurd!

>>132012154
Because you say so,yes,my dumbfuckistani retard.
I will scrub that because you of all retards on the internet told me so.
Go on,entertain me

>>132012438
How do you know how ships break apart?

>>132012094
Because the coal fire was a misdirection. Try to keep up.

>>132012265
Kys nigger. Can't even have a discussion on this board without retard nupol cunts screeching shill at every post.

>>132012398
And had a miniscule range underwater

>>132012133
You're the one becoming more and more unhinged. Defending obvious lies must be difficult.

>>132012281
The centerline is also not designed against torpedos. They might have designed it for smaller impacts, but experimental torpedos are impossible to anticipate during the design process. I know the hilarious Titanic movie scene theory, but let's be honest: is Hollywood where we should get our knowledge of science and history? I think not.

>>132011349
Well, I guess it was a success in that regard, but they didn't intend for so many people to die. I'm sure (((they))) weren't too distraught over it though

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>>132012438
This exact thing happens to tankers and container ships. Also the steel was known shit at those temps. As I said, it doesn't prove or disprove anything but the fact that it broke in half is not terribly unlikely given the circumstances.

Try to earn the right to wear the tin foil hat. It's a big responsibility.

>>132012384
Because ships always go as fast as they can, and experimental vehicles are the same as their production counterparts. Have you been in the thread this long and still don't understan what really happened yet? Sad.

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>>132012133
>burgers are so retarded that they believe the official 9/11 story
>burgers are so retarded that they question the official Titanic story

But if the titanic sank how did we get titanic movie? 2 ships perhaps?

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>>132005801
>>132006182
>>132006593
>>132006785
>>132007094
>>132007199

Hmmm this actually really makes me think. I read OP and I'd usually just write it off as /x/-tier nonsense but then this g*rman comes in and insists it was an iceberg which makes me doubt it was an iceberg and gives credence to OP.

>>132012398
If you were to believe your own theory the Titanic was passing through a thick iceberg infested section of ocean. What makes the most logical sense?

Full speed with reckless abandon
Half or slower speed to avoid iceberg impacts

A U-boat would only need to follow the Titanic until nightfall if it were doing what any captain with a brain would be doing, not going full speed. Coal fire my asshole.

>>132012545
You are the nigger who should kill himself instead. Clearly this discussion is getting under your skin. Facts have a tendancy to do that to misinfo agents.

>>132006696
Severely underrated post

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>>132005801
Look at the photos of the so called Titanic during its maiden voyage and compare it to its sister ship the Olympia, you will be able to tell that they switched the ships while they were in the boatyard.

Evidence show that the key characteristics for the Olympia ship is present in maiden voyage of the ship they called Titanic, proving it wasn't the Titanic that sank.
>>132008738
This, since they were not eligable to collect insurance after it was ruled that Olympias captain was responsible for the collision with a federal ship.

>>132012438
Yes, they do break in half very cleanly. Ships are built in compartments, every room below the waterline is sectioned off from the other rooms so it can be sealed in case of flooding. If the hull fractures it will fracture along the lines of the compartments, even more so if those on one side are flooded and the others are not.

>>132013385
Fag theory to cover up torpedos. Read the thread before replying.

>>132013044
the other theory is that the ship was instructed to go faster than it should so that it may collide with something

>>132012845
I implore you to look at the wreckage field then. Does it look like a field created from a passive sinking process or an explosive splitting in half?

>>132012639
Keep it coming,i see you out of meaningful things to write.Low energy shill you are.
>>132012867
You know,back then posting your crossing time was something worth.
>>132012883
Its not questioning the official story,its claiming their psyop shit to be possible,thats the part of dumbfuckistan.

>>132013044
But the sub can't even keep up if its not submerged.

Would have been impossible to sink it that way.

>>132013603
It might be your minimal grasp on the English language, but I am more inclined to believe you just actively hate the truth.

>>132005801
The biggest cover up is that the earth is flat and they have hidden our true origins and powers from us.

>>132011438
Hmm that is two years before the war. Damage is more of something that rammed into it. No signs of a sunk U-boat. Shipwreck does match shipswrecks that have been torpedoed.

Then your going to tell me that the US government didn't make a deal to both make an insurance scam, steal the gold from under the WTC, and push a false terrorist narrative to invade two countries. That they didn't relocate 4 aircraft, fire two missile one at PA and the other at the Pentagon. Use two drone planes to crash into the WTC which had 45 degree angle torch cuts at the lower floor supports and place termite explosives in the two towers and demolition charges in building 7. While Dick Cheney order war games that distracted the military and civilian air traffic control.

Complex things make the most unbelievable things like the way the SR71 Blackbird was constructed.

>>132013746
Subs go under icebergs desu.

Those fools, if only they had built it with 6001 hulls.

>>132013044
The speed of the Titanic when it hit the iceberg is known. It was travelling at 22.5 knots. By comparison, the most advanced German U-boat of the time, the U-19 had a top speed of only 15.9 knots surfaced or 9.5 knots submerged, and a submerged range of only 80 nautical miles

>>132013816
I love this post in my weiner.

>>132013818
>sub goes like 12 knots
>Titanic goes 24+

and people would have seen the sub if they looked outside.

Also how is the sub going to plan a Fire solution if they don't know the course, can't determine the speed etc.

No sonar, no radar....

Its impossible deal with it

I dont believe you actually know what damage from torpedoes of that era would look like.

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>>132006696

>>132013927
>"known"
By whom? How did you come across this information? Official sources? I bet it was official sources.

>>132005801
Interesting.

>>132005801
the problem is people went down and took pictures of the iceberg damage and it doesnt looks anything like a torpedo.

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>>132013495
Did I rule out that Olympia under the guise of Titanic wasn't hit by a torpedo? I did not.

In actuality it would make sense to either set of a bomb or torpedoe the ship as plan B if said Iceberg didn't sink it - Can't have the ship inspected and brought to land as they'd be found out of the fraud.

>>132014056
Sworn testimony from the quartermaster whose job it was to record the speed

>>132014084
By people you mean Hollywood movie producers?

>>132013816
>No signs of a sunk U-boat
Why would the U-boat be sunk?

Damage can be faked. A torpedo does lots of things. Explosive splitting. Flying metal creating scrapes. Hull distress along the entire ship. Punctures along the entire ship. Flooding.

All you have to do to the dumb public is tell them something remotely plausible and they can't refute anything simply because they don't know enough.

>>132014123
Touche.

>>132013992
Didn't Spaniard canards blew up your military ship in 1898?

Could be the same.

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>>132005801

"Titanic"

It was the Olympic you dumbass. The fucking kikes switched the ships as part of an insurance scam.

>>132005801
ok I get it..
this is a troll post
people this stupid can't exist

>>132013927
>at 22.5 knots.
According to "them". You know, the people feeding you the lies.

>>132005801
Because

It was not the Titanic that sank, it was it's sister ship.
It was a massive fraud perpetrated by the usual suspects.
There's a pretty good doc on jtube about it.
Pretty compelling

>>132014169
Without being able to make a fire solution its impossible to hit a moving target at such speeds with a torpedo.

They had primitive contact fuzes and not MK48s

>>132014217
Olympicposters are by far my favorite posters on this whole thread. They are still wrong, but they have the right idea.

>>132013969
>and people would have seen the sub if they looked outside.
What is a submersible.

>Also how is the sub going to plan a Fire solution if they don't know the course, can't determine the speed etc.
You do realize that torpedo warfare was being waged as early as 1870 correct? How did they do it? Must be impossible.

>>132014217

What if it wasn't Titanic or Olympic and a completely different ship?

>>132014286
No, according to the man who was at the wheel of the ship when it hit the iceberg and whose job it was to maintain a record of the speed

>>132013816
>the way the SR71 Blackbird was constructed
can you elaborate?

>>132014436
You don't see how his testimony might be questionable?

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sank 600 kms south, so east of Newfoundland in cucknadia, there's no ice there. Gents, this could be a ruse

>>132014426
How can it keep up submerged? Its slow as fuck and has a mini range.
The titanic would easily outrun the sub.

Torpedo warfare was back then sneaking into ports and attacking the ships there, so in coastal waters and not in the deepest parts of the atlantic.

>>132014084
It looks exactly like a torpedo. Oh, right, you're under the assumption torpedoes burrow into the sides of ships then blow up. That's now how they work. The detonate just under a ship and create a cavity that causes the ships back to break. So yes, it looks exactly like a torpedo strike.

>>132014547
No? Now crew members are involved in the German torpedo plot?

>>132007073
Why use a torpedo? Why not just let the captain drive it into an iceberg?

>>132006696
Kek

>>132013589
Again, I'm only addressing the feasibility of a hull of that nature breaking. I wouldn't know how to evaluate the debris anyway. Assuming it was a plot of some sort a bomb seems more likely than a torpedo. Idk.

>>132013057

No, I'm a based white American that's been based since you were a child. You couldn't get under my skin if your life depended on it. You're pathetic and you bring shame to our race if you believe yourself to be white.

>>132014629
>implying torpedos back then had anything other than contact fuzes

>>132005801
Dumbest shit i have ever read, weather conditions were ripe for stray icebergs at and the phenomenon of icebergs that far south has been observed since. Torpedos were still in their infancy and a torpedo boat in that era under north atlantic conditions at night would struggle to hit its target, without radar.

>>132014155
Testimonies under extreme pressure and chaos are always accurate and truthful. Right? Or is it more likely that he lied to try to save his own skin?

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>>132014723
Plz look at pic related, is there any ice burgs out there? Seems too far south of the pole

>>132014760
No sonar, no radar, impossible to make a good fire solution without those.

>U-boats
Is this another low key German hate thread?

>>132014685
I am not saying he lied. I am just saying you might not know what he really said. If it were known that mystery subs were sinking ships in the Atlantic, could you imagine the panic it would cause?

>>132005801

>How can there be iceberg on flat earth?

>Wake up normie

>>132014723
>based white american
>based white
>based
I am not even going to say it. I'll let someone else notice.

>>132014776
So now you believe him to be lying about the speed of the ship (which was never contradicted by any other surviving crew members) based on? Your feelings? How would testifying that the ship was travelling faster than it actually was save his skin?

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>>132014565
>US Jews deal with Germans, copy an unknown novel from several years before
>Titanic sunk by U-boat waiting along Newfoundland, kills anti-Jews
>US makes the Fed Reserve and communications regulations. Blame it on the ice(((berg)))
>Germans thought we'd go to war so it would end and save money, so they blew up the Lusitania a couple years later
Guys this redpill is too much.

It was a conspiracy. A conspiracy between the Captain, Architect, Engineers, Builders and opperators of the boat claiming she was unsinkable to the poor members (and rich) of the public. They conspired on what was essentially a poorly designed or unfinished vessel, and many innocent (relative) lives were lost because of it.

>>132015092
>U-boat waiting along Newfoundland
Now we're talking.

>>132005801
JP Morgan owned the white star company. They created the Titanic as the sistership to the Olympic and the Britannic rounded out the 3 star ships of their fleet. JP Morgan only owned about 15-20% of his companies and was revealed to be completely backed by the Rothschilds.

The Olympic suffered catastrophic damage when they collided with another ship that was their own fault and became uninsurable. Completely unrepairable and would result in the ship being scuttled.

They decided to swap it with the Titanic, its nearly identical twin. They were in drydock together before Titanic launched and to do "repairs" on the Olympic.

You can find other things associated with the switch, such as key figures not getting on the ship or being told to get off in Ireland. JP Morgan and many of his associates that wer ebooked for the cancelled last minute. All proponents to the Federal Reserve - several of the richest men in the world at the time - were on the boat when it sank.

The captain was one of the most decorated in the world and kenw the Atlantic better than anyone. He had white flares used to signal an emergency when the international standard is red - white is meaningless and indicated it was fine. He ignored EIGHT telegrams telling him about ice and to slow down that night.

Another ship owned by JP Morgan, the California, was seen in the area that night. It had no passengers, no cargo and no reason to be there. All it had was 3000ish emergency rescue blankets and supplies.

The most famous, unsinkable titanic sailed its maiden voyage with roughly half a boat full of people. Not sold out, not full, not even close. During a workers strike for boilermakers, many people refused to work on the Titanic for its maiden voyage in a time when there was huge unemployment. Crew and survivors were required sign basically NDAs to never speak of what happened, but some tell ow they were told in lifeboats that the California was coming to save them.

>>132015169
That's also why they never disclosed the location. Not because of pirates stealing silverware but because they want to hide the evidence.

>>132014433

Britannic? Mauritania?

Or are you saying there was no ship and it was actually all just a bunch of holograms made to look like a ship?

>>132015285
They didn't have holograms back then. But they did have literal smoke and mirrors. This is the same technology ancient Romans used in their temples to convince people the gods were around. It is not a big stretch to imagine holographic Titanic.
I still subscribe to the torpedo theory, though.

>>132014879
You sir are an autist

https://www.navcen.uscg.gov/?pageName=IcebergLocations

>>132012421
I'm sure OP would have people believe that they either planted the paint there or that the steamer crew was in on the whole thing.

>>132014199
The reason the U.S.S. Maine fucking exploded when it hit a mine wasn't because of the mine itself as much as it was that the U.S.S. Maine was full to the brim with explosive ordinance that detonated in a chain reaction.

The Titanic meanwhile wasn't carrying any explosive ordinance, so while damage from a torpedo might be quite sever depending on the location of impact, it wouldn't cause anywhere near the devastation that we saw with the U.S.S. Maine.

With all this information out there i don't know why patriots don't just go rogue and kill a bunch of the people in charge of the federal reserve? Aren't they the villains? Why don't they do the same in hollywood? It's not like this informatio is hard to find. Make a list of the current heads pushing zionist control over america and pop em

Lol, unless y'all just like talking like a bunch of hens and are not men of action.

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>>132013855
you mah niggah, str8 up

>>132006785
With cloud cover maybe, but at sea the moon shines bright enough to show the contrast between the ocean blue and the pale white ice.

>>132014881
Exactly, a bomb is more plausible, but i believe it struck the iceberg. There was nothing to be gained from sinking the titanic.

When you consider they did 911 some asshole boat doesnt seem such a big deal.

>>132015482
Uprise, my fellow white men! For the Titannic torpedo and 9/11! For Sandy Hook and Vaccines! For all (((THEY))) have done to our proud race!
I agree anon. We cannot let this vile shit go unanswered.

>>132006642
lol the titanic being a hoax is your biggest fear? how do you think people would respond?

>>132005801

Forensics work done on steel at the shipyard shows that it has so much sulfur in it that they were lucky it didn't split open when it was pushed into the water... but sure, lets make a new conspiracy to push whatever agenda.

>>132015589
>a bomb is more plausible, but i believe it struck the iceberg
This is a really interesting theory, actually. What if they just strategically bombed the iceberg?

>>132015589
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Act_of_1912
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Jacob_Astor_IV
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_RMS_Lusitania
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Act
It's literally 9-11 1.0

>>132015656
A bunch of irish niggers died in the sinking of the titanic, there is no conspiracy theory here.

>>132005801
Look at the list of occupants that fateful night and you'll really see ((((((((who's)))))))) behind it

>>132005801
A fire was already burning in the coal storage below deck, they spent days burning extra coal in the engine furnaces at the start till the point that they didn't have enough left to slow down as still make it to the destination. The fire caused the steel to become weaker which explaines why the sections system that would make it "unsinkable" didn't work, given that the coal fire probably spread throughout all the coal storage below deck.
In addition to this it was likely made out of inferior steel as the sister ship of the titanic got crashed into by another ship and sustained way more damage than to should have, this fits with the economic troubles the company that built the titanic was suffering at the time.
This was all covered up at the time to prevent the higher ups that signed off on this from being humiliated and hated.

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>>132015547
There was almost no moon on the night Titanic sank

>>132015656
Im hispanic i just wanna see this all unfold.

It's amazing to me how the ENTIRE world knows and sees north america as Israel's literal bitch

But north americans are blissfully ignorant and refuse to even acknowledge their leash.

Lol land of the (((free)))

>>132014199
It blew up from an accident, as >>132015466
says, though he also points out something most dont realize, 'torpedo' used to be a term for a mine. In the famous 'damn the torpedoes full speed ahead' quote from the battle of jutland, the torpedoes in question where actually mines

>>132014629
looks like i was correct, you dont know anything about historical torpedoes :^)

>>132005801
So, this is the new psyop after the flat earth?
holy shit man...

>>132015676
WWIII

>ctl+f motive
>0 results

jesus christ, am I really the first one who's going to ask what the possible motive for this torpedo strike would have been?

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>>132015945
Coal burning sunk the Titanic

>>132016106
I really do think it was this issue that took me over the edge. To be faced with the fact they made the highest-grossing movie in history based on a lie they created was just too much for me. Fuck this gay earth.

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>>132005801
>more mandella tier dis info garbage designed to make all of us seem retarded
fuck off

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>>132014730
>tfw you make a dank titanic conspiracy shitpost because you're tired of the 24/7 trump posts and just want to do something light hearted and silly but you forget that mark 43 torpedoes weren't invented by 1912 thus cavitation damage wouldn't be the same to a ship of the titanics size from a contact fuze torpedo striking her keel

Welp. It's been fun gentlemen.

>>132005801
The link between the Titanic and the Creation of the Federal Reserve cannot be understated.

Regardless of opinions on Neil Keenan the below gives a good gestalt on the situation, scroll down to section 2.02

http://neilkeenan.com/history-events-timeline/

>>132016424
>fact
I don't think you know what that word means. What you have is a whole lot of speculation built on extremely flimsy foundations

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>>132016442
I would be attentive. if this is some kind of new psyop, that's because thery are trying something new, or want to cover something that it's happening or will happen soon

My cousin went to the Titanic and I can assure you it happened.

>>132005801
The ship didn't break in half before sinking into the ocean.

>>132016500
I'm just saying man, the technology back then wasn't so precise as you make it to be.

>>132016368
The Olympic was not insured. The Titanic was. Swap sister ships and sink the one that is fucked beyond repair. Collect the 10 million dollar insurance that is roughly quarter of a billion dollars today.

Other motive is that the richest men in the world that were not jewish and opposed the federal reserve's creation were onboard. All of JP Morgan (ship owner) and his associates cancelled their trip on maiden voyage of "unsinkable ship" at the last minute. Were seen partying the night the ship went down and celebrating.

>>132016571
It would have been full of helium if not for america.

>>132016536
So they didn't make the movie then?

>>132016687
Why weren't the rich dudes in the lifeboats?

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>>132016634
nothing matters anon

>>132016646
I'm saying you won, anon. I tried my best to /conpsiracy/ but forget one little detail that derailed my entire theory and you called me out on it.

Kudos.

>>132015796
Radio act saved lives and made shippinh safer,
John astor was a rich dude and highly commendable individual i can see him giving up his position on a lifeboat for others.
Lustiana was sunk at 2:30 in the afernoon, at a range of 700m from its target, near the irish coast. Not the middle of night under shit tier north atlantic conditions.
Federal reserve act was passed so rich individuals wouldnt have to bail out private buisness and the government would after the 1907 gfc.

Kys

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>>132016500
>pretending to be retarded

>>132016861
But anon, the way early 20th century torpedoes function should be common knowledge

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>>132016861
In the spirit of fairness, I will also concede to being slightly misleading in the form and intent of my posts.

>>132015547
New moon conditions, literally blacked

>>132016861
sure there is many mysterys surrounding the titanic but to proof anything nowadays seems impossible.

We should rather concentrate on other Things, like 9/11 CGI planes, the government hiding Alien technology and other stuff.

>>132009945

Nope, on the contrary, they let the kikes have family names, this is why they chose German ones.

>>132016687
>build brand new ship
>fuck it up beyond repair
>repair it anyway, to the extent that no one notices the supposedly irreparable damage
>swap ship with it's sister without anyone noticing
>sail ship almost all the way to New York and sink it by ramming into an iceberg and killing hundreds of people, all as part of an elaborate insurance scheme

If the Olympic was able to be repaired sufficiently to pass as the brand new Titanic, then there would be no reason to sink it. The ships were incredibly expensive and time consuming to build, you don't throw that away on an insurance scam

>>132011585
Nice. I did click the link and the entire site is a contrived blue pill. Thanks.

>>132017326
>should rather concentrate on other Things, like 9/11 CGI planes
should rather concentrate on other Things, like 9/11 CGI planesshould rather concentrate on other Things, like 9/11 CGI planes
Now that we have gathered, go forth! Ravage the earth, white men!

>>132017432
Are you all going insane?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3FDvyRIIo

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>>132005801

Like the recent US ship getting hit by a container ship & the Hindenburg , it was no "accident".

Archives: http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/

>>132005801
8/10 bait.

>>132017370
But how would you convince the captn to kill himself?

>>132016687
next to a cara-van?

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>>132017499
Insane with shitty formatting!

>>132017598
exp;lain this

>>132017051
aren't we all pretending to be a little retarded in the modern world just to fit in?

I'd rather pretend to be slightly retarded than go full WOKE and be an outcast.

>>132017711
Oh, that little thing? That's what a REAL conspiracy looks like.

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