Stefan Molyneux BTFO

yes i am sure that every woman who takes birth control has some fucked up internal organs like this degenerate

>>131948627
Who?

>>131948760

This

Get a hysterectomy or gtfo

>>131948627
If you take birth control for any reason other than birth control (i.e. Hair loss, hormonal balance, regulation of cycle) the precription is usually half the dose and not covered as birth control. Even Catholic hospitals do this.

This "btfo" is just some cunt that has no idea what she is talking about.

>>131948627
>people writing something with an emoji between each word
absolute cancer (wouldn't even do it to respond)

Male haircut on a female.
>sage

>>131949037
so... it's health care?

>>131948627
That's obviously not what he was talking about

the result of riding the cock carousel

>>131948627
He's right still. Birth control isn't health care. Progestin pills prescribed to correct hormone imbalances are not birth control. Their purpose in that application is not to prevent fertilization of an egg, that's a side effect.

>>131948627
Isn't there some non-contraceptive medicine that deals with those same issues?

>>131948627

Not understanding the difference between the act of preventing pregnancy and the drugs themselves.

Taking medication which, among other things, causes temporary sterilization is not 'birth control'.

Dumb roasties

>>131949256
Fucking this

Birth control is often used for other reasons and when it is it is insured for the intended purpose.

>>131948760
>>131949037
>>131949149
>>131949233
>>131949242

not a valid argument

>BUT I WANNA HAVE CARELESS SEX FOR FREE
Not on my dime, I use condoms.

>>131949527
Correction, I use and pay for my own condoms.

>>131948627

>birth control is a miracle cure that holds one's organs together

Can somebody explain?

>>131948627
Why not get a hysterectomy?

>>131949685
DUDE ESTROGEN

Ew her vagina sounds gross

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>>131949259

>arguing with people on twitter

when will they learn?

>>131948627
/pol/ will defend this xD

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>>131948627
>Pay for my birth control

>>131949462

Op is not a valid argument you stupid fuck

>pay for my complication of being a degenerate slut, it's healthcare sweetie

Based Molymeme would rip her a new cunt in a debate

shill>>131948627
BC for medical fucking reasons is an RX that is covered, stupid shill
>Also her excruciating pain is endometriosis caused by being a Roastie with HPV

>pay for my birth control
>pay for my womens studies degree
>pay for my abortion
>pay for my maternal leave
>pay for my childcare


Hmmm yes, truly feminists have broken the yoke of patriarchy and have become completely independent of men

>>131948627
Using a niche case as a counterpoint is not an argument

>>131948760
actually birth control is a treatment for a ton of gynaecological diseases

>>131948627

shouldn't she get a prescription then based upon that, and not to stop pregnancies? arre we outlawing bc?

can the Twitter twat not afford less than a dollar a pill?

>>131951243
i know that but this chick scar tissue in her uterus and shit

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>>131948627

Birth Control & Prescription Drugs causes Frontal Lobe Damage/Disorder in Women.

Archives: http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/

>>131949462
>>131949462
>>131949462
>>131949462
SUCK
MY
DICK

>>131948627
Sounds like she is infertile and defective.

>>131948627
$20 says there are alternative treatments that you can use for most of her issues

>>131948627
1. literally who?

2. if you need birth control to treat a medical situation, pay for it yourself. Like I'm expected to pay for my own narcolepsy pills to be productive (100 euros monthly), you can do as well.

>>131948760
Trying to avoid gods punishment she will burn in hell

>>131948627
yeah, it's also the worst solution for the shit they claim to use it for. thank god I've never taken the shit in my whole life. all the women around my age (37) are losing their fucking minds right now. the depo shot literally killed people. if you love your daughters never let them touch the stuff.

>>131949121
The clapping hands emoji is memeing what an angry black female / white liberal copycat would do IRL

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>>131948760
A lot of girls take birth control just to help them with their period pain, blood flow, endometriosis, etc.
Pol is officially a virgin board.
Anyone who has lived with women knows this shit.

>>131948951
Girl with daddy issues who sings about wanting to fuck older men.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGulAZnnTKA

Shes hot though.

>>131952329
>A lot of girls take birth control just to help them with their period pain, blood flow, endometriosis, etc
as I said before, BC is the WORST POSSIBLE "solution" for any of these issues. never let your daughters touch this shit.

>>131952329
>living with women
Not even once

>>131952550
Ok, doctor know it all.
I'll make sure to spread your anonymous professional suggestion across the internet boards.

>>131948627
Not an argument

The argument should really just be that no one should be forced to pay for some one else's health care. Problem solved.

>>131952735
maybe, faggot, you should look at what endometriosis actually is and what bc does to the human body before you shit up the internet with your assumptions.

>>131952329
>lived with women

Cuck detected

>>131948627
this dumb pop star doesn't realize she's not taking "birth control"
she's taking medication that has the side effect of making her temporarily infertile

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>>131952841
Yes, doctor.
I'll go research endometriosis, then I'll spend several hours a day endorsing your anonymous medical advice across the globe.
We're gonna make a difference, doctor!
You... You're going to be a hero!!!

>>131948627
She literally got baited. Hour-long autistically researched video shitting on her coming soon to his channel.

>>131948627
Damn I actually liked a couple of her songs, why does everyone have to be a marxist kike these days. I purposely try to avoid finding out artists political views so I don't have to stop listening to them.

>>131949257
Marijuana

>>131948627
>hate single mothers
>doesnt want all the stupid sluts in america to have birth control

cult leader logic

>>131952023
Yea I heard the depo shot dosage is way too high and is as ridiculous to do to yourself as getting silicone butt injections.

>>131948627
Organs fuse together?
Darwin... get the theory

>>131948627
Healthcare is not insurance...Does your car insurance cover oil and wiper blades? Take care of your own maintenance and save insurance for the big things then we all could afford it and stop calling health welfare Obamacare

>>131953474
They could just exercise a bit of self control instead of drugging themselves up

if broflakes are gonna start taking positions on issues that are nothing to do with them, its kinda a good idea to at least read the wiki page or something.

you elevate imbecile e-celebs so everyone thinks they represent you, when they act like the cretins they are they make every one else a laughing stock too.

even this thread is a caricature of male rage

no wonder you are all unfuckable

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>>131948627
>oppose birth control because they don't want their money being spent on skanks
>healthcare costs, plus state support for the kids, costs literally thousands of times more

And this is why libertarians are retarded

>>131952329
You're correct, but it's not right. It's like treating a bumped toe with a leg amputation.

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>>131952735
estrogen in the water making the frogs gay

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>>131954960
Photon Master Race

>>131954518
>healthcare costs, plus state support for the kids, costs literally thousands of times more
Maybe this should be abolished?Come on it's not communism.

>>131954518
Pay for the birth control yourself.

Healthcare costs are related to insurance companies and have nothing to do with birthcontrol

>>131948760

Plenty do.

>>131949182
not birthcontrol.

I think Molyneux is a psychopath. Jordan Peterson is the better YouTube father figure.

>>131955328
>oh please give me free birth control, I have uhh, PAIN! that's it pain

>now let me set up 10 tinder "dates" a week

>>131955266
>Healthcare costs are related to insurance companies and have nothing to do with birthcontrol
are you actually clinically retarded?

>>131955139
yeah, the problem with that is that America, unlike Russia, isn't a third world country were its considered acceptable to let babies die.

>>131948627
Why are they both engaging in the clapping technique? That's what rachet hoes do.

>>131952735
Holy fuck, what a pathetic little faggot you are

>>131955483
You're trying to muddle two separate issues

1.You want free birth control so you can fuck without having to pay for your lifestyle

2."healthcare costs, plus state support for the kids, costs literally thousands of times more"

Children are not "inevitable"(Hint, you can avoid them by not having casual sex) and will be a non-issue if you pay for your own birth control

Nobody is outlawing BC, you're just going to have to pay for your own degenerate lifestyle yourself.

The fact "feminists" are begging with their hands out to big government is fucking pathetic and just lets everyone know how weak and illogical they are.

If women can "do it for themselves"
then they can pay for their own shit.

>>131948760
>moving the goalposts

>>131955483

That is why America is full of beta cucks who would have otherwise died by age ten.

>>131952823
You retard that means the healthcare system wouldn't exist at all.

>>131952423
I'm in the music industry and holy shit kill yourself whoever signed her thinking she could sing unless you're doing it to be fucking her

wait, women want me to pay for their mild cramps or whatever the fuck they get every now and then? holy fucking shit, artificial wombs can't come soon enough.

>>131948627
>Molyneux thinks he is unbeatable in a debate but gets his ass handed to him by a dumb pop star. How will he ever recover??
Ahhhhh. This is simple.

My wife uses birth control for the same reasons, though her tubes are tied.

Protip men: There is a shit-ton of plumbing down there on the ladies.

But yes, getting it cleared through insurance was a total nightmare, since the plan refused to provide any more birth control due to the her being sterilized. It was a mess.

These people are idiots.

Both of them.

"The Pill" or w/e you want to call it has its uses. It should certainly be available for purchase with Rx prescription. Tough shit however if it is not covered by our current version of socialized health insurance. ONE CAN STILL PAY FULL PRICE FOR THESE DRUGS OUT OF POCKET.

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Birth control should be subsidized to keep minorities from breeding. Being anti-birth control and anti-abortion is anti-white.

>>131948627
>sinead wannabe btfo molymeme
>not an argument

>>131948627

>feelings
>argument

I do hope someone sent you anthrax in the mail before you could read this post.

>>131949462
Yes it is.

>>131948627
I can't believe that people are arguing against birth control.

What is going to cost the taxpayer more:

a) birth control
b) raising the fucking kids

Hmmmmm.....

>>131957004
probably fucked her b4

>>131953072

More than a guy parroting bullshit because "people do it", like that somehow invalidates what anon said.

>>131960231
both

>>131948627

Birth control as a treatment isn't birth control, its essentially hormone therapy to deal with that shit.

However, abortion as a form of birth control isn't healthcare.

Abortion and more aptly the institutions that are subsidized by the government are holdovers from progressive era politics and philosophies, such as those promoted and instituted by Theodore Roosevelt, like race and class suicide, for example.

Goodness knows we couldn't have those poor, dirty european immigrants, natives and minorities ruining and polluting the values of our White, anglo saxon protestant nation.

They should be forcibly sterilized for their own good, lest they outnumber us- I mean, lest they come to stay in poverty as a result of their large extended families.

>>131948627
>won't spend 10 dollars a month to keep her spooge collectors in place

Skip a few tattoos and you won't die.

>>131948627
is there any reason why hormonal birth control (prescribed for the purpose of birth control, not for other health reasons) should be legal? The environmental side effects are terrible and non-hormonal birth control is effective

>>131949182
Then it should be prescriped as such by a doc tor for health insurance to cover it ... Privately. Why the fuck should the public pay for non health and essentially ease of life for anybody who wants pne

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>PAY FOR MY SLUTCARE

>>131948760
>>131948627
Every woman Ive known that was on birth control had fucked up mental issues.

>>131952550
It's just hormones, Dr Pillock. What else would you prescribe?

Do they want free BC or something? Why should someone else have to pay for it? Just because you want medication, doesn't mean it has to be free. BC isn't even expensive.

The whole issue doesn't even make sense and it feels more like they are just making up a sexism boogeyman to rally against since they really have nothing to actually complain about. They want to feel oppressed, but they really aren't, so they try so hard to come up with absurdities like this to justify their feelings as if that retroactively justifies their feelings.

Because there's no way feelings can be fake, right? If you feel it, it MUST be true, you just need to search a little harder to find a way to blame men or something.

>>131952329
>muh virgin argument
Fuck off back to the kitchen woman. It won't be long until we implement White Sharia on you sluts.

>>131962677
Birth control is oral estrogen.
Estrogen is a cancer causing hormone.

>Cramp pain > Cancer

>>131952329

I've been married twice and this is the first I'm hearing of some other mythical therapeutic use for birth control. All women I've known have usually bitched about the negative side effects.

I have no idea what the woman in the OP is even talking about. Isn't she rich enough to go to a fucking doctor and find out why she's a mutant?

>>131953072

Well...why not?

You're ignoring professional medical advice and listening to a retarded celebrity who uses birth control pills to treat some kind of rare African organ fusing disease.

>>131949584
The sex isn't nearly as good though

>>131953706

Fact: prior to birth control all women died during puberty because of organ fusing.

That's why men have a head start in society.

>>131951243
>birth control is a a cure for tons of pussy problems
>pills that con your body into thinking it's pregnant make your body feel better
Gee it's almost as though god is trying to send a message to stupid whores

>>131948760
Fpbp

>>131954252

If it's got nothing to do with us, why are you bitching at us to pay for it?

Pay for your own slut pills and coat hanger corrections you fucking leech.

>>131954518

We shouldn't provide welfare to single mothers. Let them and their rats starve. Literal parasites.

>>131948627
Taking medicine to stop your scar tissue from initiating the fusion technique is literally not birth control. Maybe it's the same formula used for birth control, but the usage is obviously very different and that makes her case an exception not the rule.

>>131960231

So if we pay for birth control can we cut all public spending on single mothers anf their children?

Chemical castration, should be illegal.

>>131952329

>lives with women
No you live with sluts who want cream pies from strangers. Sorry about your mom Anon but this is what the drug companies say to normalize the usage.

I really fucking hate that clapping hands meme

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>>131952329
Why do western women all take the pill?
Serious question here.
It was banned for a long time in japan.
If you check the body temperature you can avoid getting your wife pregnant. Worked out for me.
The pill causes all kind of body and mental fuck ups. Thats why western women are so moody, think about it.

>>131965730
And it enters the drinkwater because of their piss. Thats bad as well.

>>131965087
I don't agree with this for several reasons, like, say a stay at home mother's husband gets run over by a random drunk driver?
I do think that children born out of wedlock should not qualify for benefits, though. That would stop a whole shitload of problems.

>>131965730
Tell me how the body temperature thing works you dirty mongol

>>131949685
She probably has fibro-thingamee, so periods cause extra pain, bleeding & scar tissue formation, ex girlfriend had something like that, dunno, didn't pay too much attention, it made her complain a lot, but women do that anyway.

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>>131965730
How do you use body temperature to keep a women from getting pregnant?

>>131952841
>endometriosis
That was the word I was looking for.

>>131948760
Kek

>>131948627
maybe theres a reason god doesnt want you to live anymore

>>131948627
Women will literally make up all manner of bullshit to justify their own stupidity. They pay good money to smear damaging cosmetics on their own faces. Did you not notice this? Because it tells you everything you need to know about them

>>131964630
There's barely any difference if you're not a cheap faggot. Also sex outside marriage is degenerate and non-procreative sex is literally masturbation.

>>131966209
>>131966267
you can buy a temperature thing which checks a womens body temperature. bought it online.
the only hassle is you need to check every morning. there are apps in google store as well to keep track.

now here is how it works:
spoiler: most of the time a month you can't get a women pregnant.
its usually 1 week per month which is dangerous. around1-2 weeks which are safe.
other is not 100% safe but should be fine.
its really popular in japan my friends use it as well. never got pregnant if it was not planned.

i think japan has the worlds thinnest condom but for me wearing it kinda defeats the purpose and cumming outside is a let down.

but of course you cant use this if you change your women often because of STD.

>>131952329
>Pol

>>131948627
She could also use suicide to address that. Jus sayin

>>131948627
>n not an argument!

>>131948627
>clapping between each word like a couple of thots
baka senpai

>>131957004
>unless you're doing it to be fucking her
Women are inferior at art of any kind, anon. She's not there because anyone was impressed by her voice.

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MIKE, DELETE THIS TWEET

Molyneux is one of the smartest motherfuckers out there. Sure, he's not 100% right all the time but who is? Just calling him an imbecile makes her argument void. He's right 95% of the time and she's a little dumb chick who hasn't been around for long enough yet to get unbrainwashed. When I was her age I was a stupid libturd and thought I had the answers to everything. How naive I was. Glad to have matured. Glad to finally have found freedom in an unfree world.

>>131966666
those digits

>>131948627
Anytime you question a woman's life choices, she launches off into a combination of rage and victimhood, talking about "excruciating pain." Fuck this bitch.

>>131954211
>They could just exercise a bit of self control instead of drugging themselves up
Using birth control is exercising self-control.

>>131948627
This is like the same argument when feminist cunts bring up insurance covering Viagra.

Im wondering if a thick hot load in her mouth would help to keep her organs from cementing together. Its by far one of the cheapest birth control methods i can think of..........H.A.

>>131967684
>DURR HUURR

Uh....no,sweetie.

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>>131953474
>doesnt want all the stupid sluts in america to have birth control
He's fine with birth control. What's he not fine with is the state using force to fund it.

>>131965730
>Why do western women all take the pill?
It's easy and it makes it easier to be easy. It also means sex is devalued, disconnected from reproduction and marriage.

>And it enters the drinkwater because of their piss. Thats bad as well.
This sentence is homophobic dae le gay frogs lol stupid CIServatives

>>131948627
If its that important then pay for it your fucking self you thot

Why should Joe McAverage in Wisconsin who barely makes a thousand a month after taxes pay for your shit?

>>131963783
>white sharia

You must be a leaf. Fuck off, faggot.

>>131948627
Thinking
Scar
Tissue
Works
Like
Super
Glue

>>131952329
A lot of people take Tylenol for a headache. Usually, they buy it at the store with their own money.

>>131967828
>"DON'T GET PREGNANT AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY, WHORE!!"
>"Okay." (takes birth control)
>"THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT SLUT!!!"
lol, go fuck yourself.

>>131967935
The "logic" goes that the single mother will become a welfare leech, which might make one wonder where her parents and boyfriend are and what has happened to family values, but that's dangerously close to endorsing patriarchy.

>abuse something for so long your body becomes dependant on it
>somehow this means the government should continue to pay for your substance abuse

>>131967112
Holy fuck hahaha

>>131948760
>Being female and having non-preventable gynecological issues makes you a degenerate

>>131948627
This is why I'm glad my gf got the IUD.
>>131949037
Hysterectomy is not like a vasectomy, in that it doesn't have an affect on you other than sterilization. Unless you've entered menopause, it absolutely fucks up your hormones and causes a lot of problems down the road, especially if you're young. More so than birth control pills ever could.

>>131968216
Retard think having taxpayer funded birth control for whores is 'taking responsibility'

>>131968216
How about holding off on the "vagina full of cum" thing until you secure a permanent cum dispenser? They sell vibrators online if you're too dumb to masturbate yourself.

>>131966666
Cheked and agree. Difference is honestly minimal and not enough to suddenly shift from capable to impotent. It's a whole bunch of ((muh dick)) shit anyway

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>>131948627
>pay for my birth control so i can flush the extras and poison the water with estrogen
sick

I support free birth control for poorfags and minorities.

t. eugenics supporter

>>131948627
The difference between otc ibuprofen costing several dollars per bottle, and doctor-prescribed ibuprofen that gets almost full coverage through insurance. Exactly the same drug, but one is not a medical necessity, the other is.

>>131968663
Birth control is much cheaper than supporting unwanted babies and future criminals in tax payer funded prisons.
>>131968686
Women in marriages still use birth control. but it's not like /pol/tards are fucking any women to know these things.

>>131968747
What about IUDs? They can be non-chemical.

Ignorantfag, here. It might be used to treat these problems but I have a hard time believing there are women that need birth control just to function.
We've only had this stuff within living memory, how could that possibly be the case?

And these problems it's used to treat: how many of them would also go away if these girls ate right, exercised etc.?

if birth control is so important for preventing various gynecological issues, how did women survive before the creation of birth control pills? is it possible that (gasp) they don't need it?

>>131969136
>It might be used to treat these problems but I have a hard time believing there are women that need birth control just to function.
You also have never had a period.
>We've only had this stuff within living memory, how could that possibly be the case?
lol. Gee, how did the world exist before you were born?

>>131968884
>Women in marriages still use birth control.
Yeah, but they shouldn't. There's no real reason to. Do NFP instead of fucking your brain up and urinating poison into everyone's drinking water.

>Birth control is much cheaper than supporting unwanted babies and future criminals in tax payer funded prisons.
Lead is less than a dollar a pound.

>>131948627
Is there not a better medicine for that?
seriously wtf. It is not supposed to be for that.

>>131969317
>Yeah, but they shouldn't. There's no real reason to
So women are supposed to have litters and litters and dozens and dozens of children?

You don't understand this "family planning" thing do you?

An "e-celeb" whose threads stay up without being deleted.

>>131949256
This

>>131969299
It's a legitimate question. How did women live long enough to bear multiple children before hormonal birth control was invented? Were they just too busy whining about their ouchy pussies to engage in politics? Might that be a better way of life?

>>131969318
>Is there not a better medicine for that?
like what? Tell me what chemical is supposed to treat a hormonal issue other than hormones.

Did you go to medical school? You seem pretty confident diagnosing a random women you've never met online and act like you are qualified to treat her.

Redpill me on endometriosis.

Everyone I know who has it is a slut and is a super vocal feminist. Is it caused by HPV or something?

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I love how the same people that would scream in my face that i'm a sexist for having a penis and that they live as second class citizens in an evil patriarchy country are also bickering for the government to forcefully remove money from my pocket to pay for goods they want.

>>131948627
Maybe if she didn't fuck horses she wouldn't have this problem.

>>131969591
>It's a legitimate question.
No it isn't. You're nearly fucking braindead and you think your bullshit matters.
>How did women live long enough to bear multiple children before hormonal birth control was invented?
Maybe you need to understand that many women died from giving birth and from other complications from pregnancy before modern medicine.

>>131953162
i would watch the shit out of that.

i love stefans long presentations and i get a little depressed when i see 3 call in videos go up in a row

>>131969299
I really believe you are a woman, with answers like that.
Let me spell it out for you. Birth control is brand new, it still has that out of the box smell on it.
We lived for tens of thousands of years without it.
So how could it be the case that women today can't live and function without it? You did for tens of thousands of years: there's no way you've "evolved" to some place where you lost the ability to deal with it.

So either you split-tails are exaggerating this or there is another problem here that you need to deal with. If it's the latter then that's actually a good reason to really address this problem you have and not dope it with birth control.

eg. If you broke your leg I could probably give you enough morphine to not care that your leg is broken. But that's not treating the problem, is it? That leg should be in a cast or maybe operated on if we're returning you to good health.

>>131948627
This is a non-starter. Arguments against providing any birth control are full retarded. Arguments against health insurance providing birth control are full anti-woman.
There isn't a good individual or macro scale argument here or anywhere on removing birth control that doesn't seem from some fantasy of reversing women's right to vote and work. It is a pipe dream and just opportunity for virtue signaling on /pol/ disguised as discussion.

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>>131969591

>>131969443
>So women are supposed to have litters and litters and dozens and dozens of children?
Four or five is probably fine.

>You don't understand this "family planning" thing do you?
Here you go, retard.
http://americanpregnancy.org/preventing-pregnancy/natural-family-planning/
It's the same kind of thing that jap upstream was talking about. Amazingly, even before 2017, people were able to figure out when to have sex and when not to in order to have children or not.

>>131948627
Tons of medication have off label use and are approved by insurance. It has nothing to do with birth control meds for use as birth control. People can be prescribed viagra for blood pressure and Raynaud's disease.

>>131956499
I'll move your mum

>>131949121
It's just voice to text technology being adapted for ebonics.

>>131969443
If you have sex you're supposed to have a chance of getting pregnant, yes. Your purpose is to make children. There's nothing you will do in your life that is better than making children.

No amount of pleasing your boss or taking overseas trips will bring you the happiness and fulfillment of having lots of children. You were made/evolved to do it.

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>>131948627
PAY FOR MY BIRTH CONTROL

>>131969794
>We lived for tens of thousands of years without it.
same thing with most of modern medicine. Do you really want to treat an infected cut with prayer and/or amputation?
>So how could it be the case that women today can't live and function without it?
Because they can have it now. You can function without modern transportation, but you'd rather not. What point are you trying to make?
>eg. If you broke your leg I could probably give you enough morphine to not care that your leg is broken. But that's not treating the problem, is it? That leg should be in a cast or maybe operated on if we're returning you to good health.
Great analogy for advocating that women taking birth control if they want. Thanks.

>>131948760
fpbp

>>131969834
>>131969764
Birth control was invented in the late 1950s, dumb fucks. The drop in maternal mortality is due to a) doctors washing their hands and b) improvements in surgery and antibiotic technology.

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HOW DARE YOU FORGET US BIGOTS
PAY FOR OUR BIRTH CONTROL CIS SHITS

>>131969854
>Four or five is probably fine.
What if a woman doesn't want "four or five" children?

>>131948760
>yes i am sure that every woman who takes birth control has some fucked up internal organs like this degenerate
/thread

>>131957637
>expecting subhuman animals to follow insructions and adhere to a schedule
hownu.ru

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>>131948627
MIKE....CUT HER OFF

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>>131970116
These arguments are shit. We all know you're an assblasted roastie. Stop posting.

>>131970067
>If you have sex you're supposed to have a chance of getting pregnant, yes. Your purpose is to make children. There's nothing you will do in your life that is better than making children.
But that's short sighted. If you plan and provide for your family, you prevent neglecting their needs and bringing them harm.

No one should just shit out children without thinking first. You need to consider their needs then provide for them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBqjZ0KZCa0

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>>131952423
>everything is blue
>his pills

what did she mean by this?

>>131952823
?????? what the fuck are you talking about? Doctor's and nurses existed long before the concept of both insurance or a healthcare system, and they where all privately compensated for their services? Believe it or not the world was just fine before Karl Marx came around.

>>131970116
Birth control doesn't solve problems, it causes them.

For instance we've got the stats about sexual partner count vs successful marriage, happiness etc. Fucking a lot of people makes you less happy, not more happy.
(true of both men and women, actually. but men have much less financial incentive to divorce when unhappy)

We've got a birth rate that is in the toilet. If white people we having more babies our governments wouldn't be importing massive amounts of third world people.

If people had children they'd be invested in the future. They would work harder because their lives would not be devoted to their own base pleasures and they would care about the future.

There really aren't very good reasons to permit you to use birth control.

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>>131952329
>Women take pills to avoid being women
What's it like living with your bull's gf?

>>131970170
>improvements in surgery
lol, yeah, I wonder why they need surgery and what kind to prevent what complication. You leave a lot out of the conversation and mislead.

>>131955483
Children raised by single mothers are better off dead

>>131970116
An infected cut is not a natural condition and is really not even a serious problem if you don't pick at it. All female primates have periods as part of their normal, healthy lives. Menstruation is what you're supposed to do, not a condition that needs treating.

>>131969814
No one is against birth control being provided through health insurance. The issue is having birth control classified as health care. The issue is the state using force in order to provide health care.

>>131970227
You get modern western white culture.

>>131949462
>That's obvious not what he was talking about
>Not an argument
????

>>131970440
>But that's short sighted. If you plan and provide for your family, you prevent neglecting their needs and bringing them harm.

>No one should just shit out children without thinking first. You need to consider their needs then provide for them.

Birth control does not make more stable families, it makes less stable families. You can see this quite clearly in the stats. Things like marriage success and the rates of children born of out wedlock sky-rocketed after the introduction of the pill.
And did you know married couples that use birth control actually have less sex and less satisfying sex?
It might sound counter-intuitive but when you are off the pill you will want sex more and men will want you more. Because your hormones tell you it's time to breed and men's animal instincts sense you are fertile.

>>131970521
>Birth control doesn't solve problems, it causes them.
Calm down you Cassandra.
>If white people we having more babies our governments wouldn't be importing massive amounts of third world people.
lol, you really think that's why they are importing immigrants?
>There really aren't very good reasons to permit you to use birth control.
you've still listed none. Family planning creates better families.

>>131970612
his point was "the drop in maternal morality wasnt caused by birth control"

he actually gave more information than needed if you think about it

>>131970440
>>131970847
Erm, I mean the rate of marriage success went down and the rate of illegitimate children born went up.
Marriage success obviously didn't go up, lel.

>>131962314
taking "whore"mones as a form of birth control can affect a women's mental state? who knew!

>>131970666
>An infected cut is not a natural condition
but it is.
>and is really not even a serious problem if you don't pick at it.
lol, thanks doc.
>All female primates have periods as part of their normal, healthy lives. Menstruation is what you're supposed to do, not a condition that needs treating.
Humans menstruate in a different way than other primates do.

>>131970521
I don't really disagree with your sentiment, but this is a terrible argument.

>We've got a birth rate that is in the toilet.
>If people had children they'd be invested in the future.

Lower birth rates in the West are primarily attributable to economic conditions, not the prevalence of birth control.

>>131948627
Unique case.

>>131970847
>>No one should just shit out children without thinking first.
Tell that to the mudslimes, niggers and streetshitters.

>>131970781
You guys need to stop watching "A Handmaid's Tale". It's just allegory for Islam and the defunct American Christian Right.

>>131948627
Stephan has been acting retarded lately. How is birth control not health care? Why would anyone be against that? Do people seriously think these women's are just gonna stop being whores if they don't get birth control? No they are always gonna be whore so it's better for them not to get knocked up.

>>131971090
And beaners.

>>131970847
>Birth control does not make more stable families, it makes less stable families.
You have nothing to substantiate that.

>>131970440
>No one should just shit out children without thinking first. You need to consider their needs then provide for them.
lmfao who gives a shit when the government will pay for all of it? there's zero incentive for the poverty stricken to not breed like rabbits, because for the women it means free housing and food paid for by the taxpayers.

>>131970876
Governments need debt slaves. Our system is built on the idea that there will always be population growth.
White people stopped providing population growth and even went into sub-replacement numbers.
That is why the governments bring in the third worlders. So they can borrow money and create debt growth.

It's the main but not the only reason, of course. For instance if you slash government funding of med schools you save money. But you still need the doctors. So what do you do? Bring in street shitters and chinks to fill in the gap. It's a saving because we didn't pay for their med school.

>>131970227
Women are meant to be seen and not heard.

>>131970440
If you plan too much, you risk not having the children in the first place.

>>131970612
What have I been misleading about? And why aren't you happy that the state of medical technology means you can survive maybe a dozen successful pregnancies instead of bleeding out on your first try?

>>131970847
>Things like marriage success and the rates of children born of out wedlock sky-rocketed after the introduction of the pill.
That's not because of "the pill". It's because of the welfare state.

>>131971204
https://soundcloud.com/florian-geyer-9/mysterium-fasces-episode-31-sexual-ethics

Listen to this. More entertaining and informative than I will be.

>>131971113
The American Christian Right is the most civil group of people in the country (westboro doesn't count it's just a family that looks for lawsuits). Why not strive to be like Evangelicals, Mennonites, Amish, Mormons, strict Catholics? Everyone ends up flocking to their areas AND schools.

>>131970935
>his point was "the drop in maternal morality wasnt caused by birth control"
neither was mine. Modern medicine was the reason for the drop in material morality including women having less children instead of risking having dozens.

>>131971134
We're barely above replacement levels tyrone, you may look at the beaners doing the kiddies, they're not Mexicans.

>>131948627
That girl needs a fucking hysterectomy if she has that many issues. Fuck.

>>131971119
>How is birth control not health care?
It's contraception
>Why would anyone be against that?
Stefan is for birth control, just not the state being able to use force to make people and businesses pay for it.

I get really bad menstrual cramps. My doctor told me to take the pill to reduce it and it did help a lot, so... yea.

>>131971206
>lmfao who gives a shit when the government will pay for all of it?
There are people ITT making the argument that birth control should be outlawed and that it somehow causes social ills. The Malthusian Trap never occurred to them though, apparently.

>>131970999
>but it is.
Your skin does not grow cuts on its own.

>Humans menstruate in a different way than other primates do.
Why would you think that's relevant? Stupid woman. The point is, menstruation is what your body does when it's healthy.

>>131971424
>implying I'm a nigger
The wall just got ten feet higher, taco paco muchacho.

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>It's a "woman wants the right to vote" episode

>>131971217
>That is why the governments bring in the third worlders. So they can borrow money and create debt growth.
But they cause more debt and stress to the system. No.

Out "leaders" bring in third worlders to prop up cheap labor and illegal trafficking that they benefit from.

>>131971406
>including women having less children instead of risking having dozens

but if the graph goes by live births, women risking having 12 kids wouldnt affect it
the other guy pretty much attributed the drop to modern medicine as well didnt he?

>>131971284
The natural expected outcome of sex is pregnancy. Birth control erodes that understanding and makes people dumber about family planning, not smarter.
You know what is good family planning? Finding a solid guy and marrying him when you're still a teenager and having your kids when you are young and healthy. Not 39 and making down syndrome babies.
You want to fight nature not to improve our lives but to live out your own base pleasures.

>omg I'll never see the pyramids if I have babies!
>omg I'll probably never fuck a dick bigger than my boyfriend's if I get married to him and have kids!

Stop fighting your purpose. Do you think it really makes women happy to do that? You lot are more desperately unhappy than ever. Just look at the rates women are taking SSRIs today.

>>131966687
>you can buy a temperature thing which checks a womens body temperature. bought it online.
A thermometer?

>>131956139
You are an idiot you are preaching social responsibility to people who have none. Guess what happen these bitches don't wanna spend money on health care and end up pregnant and raise a fucked up kid. Do you really care if you have to pay a dollar more to not have to deal with some niglet running around? Women raising kids as a single mother affects you when their kid is a shitty person.

Yes they will inevitable have sex and yes they will end up pregnant. This happens every fucking day and you people have been preaching social responsibility for years and it's changed nothing

>>131948627

> clap hands emoji like a black woman

what a cuck

>>131971240
>Women are meant to be seen and not heard.
You're effectively sterile.
>If you plan too much, you risk not having the children in the first place.
that's not what family planning is at all.
>What have I been misleading about?
That you're embarrassingly full of shit and you know it.
>And why aren't you happy that the state of medical technology means you can survive maybe a dozen successful pregnancies
I'm a man.

>>131971570
This Malthusian issue could be resolved quite simply through erection of trade barriers and cessation of welfare/aid gibs.

>>131971038
hard to have kids when your wagecucked

>>131971306
>The American Christian Right is the most civil group of people in the country
They don't exist anymore. You don't know shit and your age is showing.

Are you going to tell me the "Soviets" are still a danger too?

>>131971581
All muricans are niggers to me, sorry faggot.

>>131971734
>women risking having 12 kids wouldnt affect it
bullshit. Each birth is a risk and the older you are the higher the risk of the pregnancy.

>>131949257
Been wondering this. I've heard of women taking BC for all kinds of non slut related reasons and it really begs the question as to whether or not there's some kind of non contraceptive medication that they could be taking

>>131948627
Not an argument.

>>131956139
>real world sex
It is inevitable that you don't want to pay for something you will never experience yourself.

>>131966262
Fibromyalgia is not real

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>>131971856
I don't believe you're a man. Here's a family planning tip: don't have sex. It's the most effective way to prevent unwanted pregnancies and have healthy, stable families.
Observe the results of having more sexual partners.

>>131972029
I always knew beaners were stupid but GOT DANG.

>>131971514
Again why would anyone be against that? Yeah it might not be "health" care but it's fits neatly in that category so it's easy to stick there.

Again giving girls free birth control if they want it benefits everyone so it's an effective use of tax money.

>>131971514
>businesses pay for it.
I don't think businesses should be involved in healthcare and insurance at all.

Why? When you're sick, the first thing you can't do is work, so why the fuck would you get health insurance from the company you work for? It's dead weight and other nations have figured this out decades ago.

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>>131971856
>I'm a man.
"I believe you."

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>>131972208
LEL.

>>131971580
>Why would you think that's relevant?
because it is.

>>131952423
>tfw i have some of her music, but for free
feels good, she doesn't seem like a great musician

>>131972052
so how old were these women who were dying having children? surely contraception existed before hormonal birth control and was it adapted fast enough to cause that fast of a drop?

i still think its more modern medicine than birth control

>>131971856
Post dick or tits.

>>131972211
No, it only benefits them at the expense of the taxpayer.

Having premarital casual sex with birth control isn't a constitutional right.

Not spreading your legs will not adversely affect your health, ergo it's not health care.

>>131968459
He's not implying she's a degenerate because of those things, he's just saying she's a degenerate for other reasons which you can tell by her profile pic.

>>131972071
sometimes they have problems due to hormonal imbalances, some forms of contraception are hormones

>>131971768
>The natural expected outcome of sex is pregnancy.
but it isn't. Humans have sex for many other reasons other than reproduction. We're not frogs or fish. We don't "spawn".

>>131972239
>When you're sick, the first thing you can't do is work, so why the fuck would you get health insurance from the company you work for?
so that you can get back to work and you might feel grateful toward your employer for helping you. Are you stupid?

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>>131948627
>Molyneux thinks he is unbeatable in a debate but gets his ass handed to him by a dumb pop star. How will he ever recover??
David Brock Trolls think they are exposing conservationism, when in actuality strengthening it.

>>131971813
Pay

For

It

Yourself

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>>131948627
>How did (Emoji) Women (Emoji) Survive (Emoji) up until this point (Emoji) without it (Emoji)

>>131972211
>Again why would anyone be against that?
No one is against birth control. People are against paying for something that isn't their choice to do so. Hobby Lobby won their case because the mandate which demands businesses pay for contraceptives went too far and infringed against their religious rights.

>>131971813
>Do you really care if you have to pay a dollar more to not have to deal with some niglet running around? Women raising kids as a single mother affects you when their kid is a shitty person.
These dipshits only care about their smug sense of pride while they do things the most destructive and expensive way.

>131971980
They voted in a landslide for Trump, but of course you have forgotten them. Everyone did.

>>131949182
Not if it's done for superficial purposes. It's the difference between someone needing plastic surgery after a traumatic accident and someone wanting to get plastic surgery to look better (or bogged)

>>131965730
Those pills also causes autism on their babies.

>>131972507
I said expected outcome. If you have a guy cum in your pussy and you aren't using any birth control or contraception: you know a pregnancy may result.
I did not say it is always the outcome.

>>131971874
>This Malthusian issue could be resolved quite simply through erection of trade barriers and cessation of welfare/aid gibs.
The Malthusian Trap predates the modern era. All the things you listed are meaningless to it.

>>131966666
Checked. Cheap faggotry confirmed.

>>131948627
It's not our responsibility to pay for her medical issues.

>>131972198
>I don't believe you're a man.
You have a hard time understanding many facts.

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>>131948627
>googled "birth control not health care"
>articles about this tweet and Stefan Molyneux come up
Oh boy, what a slow news day. Can't wait for the next video.

>>131965823
>enters the drinkwater because of their piss
Wait what

>>131949256
The correct answer.

>>131972198
Also, nothing in your graphs have anything to do with family planning.

>>131972368
It's not. Homo sapiens have been around for hundreds of thousands of years and it's moronic to pretend that our females suddenly developed a need for extra hormone pills in the last sixty years.

>>131966687
HOW DOES IT FUCKING WORK THOUGH

are you shoving it in her vag or just orally like a regular thermometer?

>>131972817
We filter our water but the hormones don't get taken out.
Birth control hormones in our water is one of the big reasons so many men are grass-eating, faggy, soft nu-males.

>>131966666
Nothing wrong with cumming on your wife's face.

>>131972954
They're turning the frickin' frogs gay!

>>131972817
The water you drink from your kitchen has hormones from the pill inside.
When women piss that stuff enteres the water. It will be cleaned with cemicals, but the hormones remain. Now men becoming effeminate faggets doesnt seem so strange does it?

>>131948627
he's talking about preventing pregnancy, not health problems in a vagina. is everyone really too stupid to understand this?

>>131972594
I'm against birth control.

>>131948627
>my specific body does some weird shit and birth control helps

>free birth control for everyone even tho less than fuck a woman will experience the same effect

Slam that not an arguement meme molyjew

>>131948627
By this logic healthcare plans should also cover prostitutes for men to prevent the pain that can be cause by vasocongestion (aka "blue balls")

>>131972396
>surely contraception existed before hormonal birth control
actually it did. There are medieval tales of a orchid in Europe that was an effective birth control. It was harvested to extinction in a short time.

But no, nothing compares to the variety of birth control methods available now because science.

>>131972071
>some kind of non contraceptive medication
Vitamin D(ick)

That's what they are mimicking anyway.

>>131972881
Yes of course they do. They talk about the results of having an increasing amount of sexual partners.
That's what your "family planning" is. The freedom to fuck a lot of dudes.
If you deny that birth control means people fuck more people and delay marriage: you'd really be arguing in bad faith.

The best possible thing for our civilization is that we marry young and marry as virgins and we stay married.

>>131948627
I'm pro-life, Birth Control kills my child before it even is born so i'm against it personally

>>131972898
Just like regularly is fine.
It should just be always at the same time and you need to be careful if your wife has fever, because that changes the temperature.
But really with a bit of dicipline you can have raw sex without fucking up your wifes brain.

Most scary part is that I told the same thing my friend from swiss.He said after his wife stopped the pill her behaviour changed as well. Less angry without reason etc. Scary stuff.

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>>131948627
Seriously, why are you edgelords against birth control? would you rather pay a few thousand in tax dollars to keep those whore from complaining or have them become single mothers who live off the government or give the child to a group home. Either way, you're paying tax dollars for 18 years on that kid. Fucking why?

>>131972396
Also, see this graph. Modern medicine has significantly lowered material mortality as well as modern family planning as part of that modern medical care.

>>131972071
>it really begs the question as to whether or not there's some kind of non contraceptive medication that they could be taking

I've read about this PCOS thing women get and it looks to me as if it's treatable by not being a fat cunt.
I even know one girl irl that had terrible period pain, got diagnosed with PCOS and she hasn't had problems with it since she got into fitness.

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>>131966666
>dem digits

Wew lad, is this a satanic psyop or something

>>131948627
Ever since my sister started taking birth control she has horrible stomach cramps and diarrhea that smells like death. We keep telling her to stop taking it but she refuses so she must be getting mad d

>>131973053
How to avoid this? Drinking out of plastic bottles doesn't seem like a good idea either what with all the bisphenol A.

>>131969591
Some chicks have crippling menstral cycles and they have to take birth control to be even remotely functional.

>>131951672
https://examine.com/nutrition/can-i-take-something-to-alleviate-premenstrual-symptoms/
You can solve pretty much anything that's not caused by a pathogen without paying the pharma jew tbqh.

>>131968638
>it absolutely fucks up your hormones and causes a lot of problems down the road, especially if you're young. More so than birth control pills ever could.
source? birth control has fucked women to the point that they think it is a right

>>131973434
It's even worse than you think. BPA free plastics often still have estrogen-mimicking chemicals in them.

>>131973434
I dont know either to be honest.
Glass bottle is the way to go...but very very expensive in japan because we use so much plastic.
I also bought a filter for my kitchen sink (no not from AJ..) because I like to make myself tea at night.

>>131968216
How about keeping those legs closed you whore

It literally takes less muscles to keep your legs closed than it does to spread em

>>131948627
You know she is talking out her ass sideways right?

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>>131972537
>so that you can get back to work and you might feel grateful toward your employer for helping you. Are you stupid?
Your employer is your health insurance company? Your employer is a hospital or a doctor? Are these things true for everyone?

You're mistaking "Worker's Comp", the healthcare industry, medicine and employment for being the same thing.

People don't work so they can be "grateful to their employer" you dipshit. People work to earn money.

>>131973292
Please read the fucking thread.

>>131952329
thats because kikes lie to these whores and give them birth control for stupid shit like acne

>>131973292
because I would rather pay to raise hitler than to pay to have hitler aborted?

>>131972718
>If you have a guy cum in your pussy and you aren't using any birth control or contraception: you know a pregnancy may result.
so what's the argument against birth control then?

>>131973434
Sourced spring water. Don't worry about plastic they don't use that kind anymore.

>>131957637
If you're going to suggest that then you might as well castrate them at birth

>>131972896
Humanity has invented a lot of things. We still use them because we can and we want to.

Enjoy your computer.

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>>131948627
Why should we pay for her shitty genetics tho?

>>131962677
>It's just hormones

>>131972728
>The Malthusian Trap predates the modern era.
Malthus was a contemporary of Napoleon, so no, and it hasn't happened yet.

>All the things you listed are meaningless to it.
Wrong. Tariffs and ending welfare are tactics to reduce the flow of resources to populations with high birthrates and/or a demonstrated lack of care for nature and resource conservation.

>>131973005
It's inferior to sex and indicative of watching too much porn, but no one's going to stop you.

>>131973809
Your fallacy is false equivalence.

>>131969633
No it's called karma. They have endometriosis so that they too will know what it's like to have to entertain an intolerable cunt everyday

>>131973434
>>131973578
There's some other stuff you can do like take DIM, eat cruciferous vegetables. Eat plenty of fat and cholesterol. Lift heavy objects and put them down.

>>131973130
>They talk about the results of having an increasing amount of sexual partners.
Sleeping around and family planning have nothing to do with one another. Typically, a "family" consists of a man and a woman in a marriage having children. There isn't "multiple partners" because bigamy is Illegal in the US, Mohammad.

>>131973586
>It literally takes less muscles to keep your legs closed than it does to spread em
And sperm apparently just magically flows in the air from the stork and has nothing to do with a man.

>>131969834
>random pointless graph in the vain hope that it would support his argument

Yeah because birth control somehow miraculously saved all these babies since the 50s, and it TOTALLY had nothing to do with the fact that medical care improve by leaps and bounds within that same timeframe

Neck yourself retard

>>131972071
yes, it's called semen in their vaginas until they're pregnant

>>131973886
>and it hasn't happened yet.
>"I don't know what I'm talking about"
Okay.