Evolution/Groupthink

>>131945989
>what is a transistional fossil?

>>131945989
What is HERV's

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In addition to this, you cannot be red pilled if you believe in a spherical earth or jesus.

Literally worshiping a jew, rather than the based white ancestors and OUR REAL gods

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=60744.0

>>131947183
>some bones look similar therefore WE WUZ BACTERIA N SHEEIT

>>131947603
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/diapsids/birds/archaeopteryx.html

Feel free to write a paper on why evolution is false, get it published and collect your nobel prize :)

>>131945989
schizophrenia strikes again

>>131945989
>http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-38800987
This is either a tired troll or a moron. Either way it's still a terrible post.

Git gud.

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>>131945989

>>131947811
>implying any and all dissent isn't suppressed

Professors have lost their jobs for even uncovering evidence against it.

This guy lost his job because he found a dinosaur fossil had soft tissue:

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/07/24/scientist-alleges-csun-fired-him-for-discovery-of-soft-tissue-on-dinosaur-fossil/

>>131945989
Saged. You don't seem understand how life works.

You can't believe white people are genetically superior if you don't believe in evolution.

>>131949429
>You can't believe white people are genetically superior if you don't believe in evolution.

If whites are genetically superior then why do East Asians have higher IQs?

>>131949756
They dont, american east asians do because of a highly selective immigration program. If you were to poll the average Vietnamese dirt farmer they would come up sub-retarded.

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>>131949042
Why are you communist fucks the only atheists on /pol/?

>>131949971
Actually, the top countries ranked by IQ and math&science test scores are Asian.

>>131945989
This is a slide thread.

>>131950402
>anything I don't like is a slide thread

>>131945989
Never go full retard, I bet you think god is a magical sky wizard too and magic/miracles are a thing.

I bet you think when you close your eyes and mumble to yourself some ethereal dude is listening and going "Okay Bob sure thing"

You're a fucking barbarian who doesn't even understand the concepts you pedal, you are not red pilled.

>>131950497
>I've been found out!

>>131950535
Attacking another belief doesn't make yours correct. Try harder.

>>131945989
I believe that god created us through evolution

>>131945989
If evolution does not happen then how did we get here? I am not 100% convinced about evolution but at least it seems plausible.

Question it all you want but you'll be hard pressed to find a theory thats more plausible. Don't say religion, that falls more into the belief category. It isn't a theory.

I for one think that if evolution is false then nearly everything we "know" is also false as a consequence. If evolution is false then how did the first human arise? There must have one day been zero humans, and the next day a nonzero number of humans. If weren't procedurally generated from bacteria then things like the big bang theory suddenly makes a lot less sense.

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>>131945989
i'm not sure if the catatonic denial of empirical, irrefutable fact -- by fretful godtards, in their death throes, grasping at any tenuous straw of validity for their child-abused-in delusions -- is more pathetic or pathos-inducing...

either way, it's entertaining!

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>>131951186
>OP unironically believes god created this

>every human is retarded except me :)

Options;

1-Descended from a lazy rat himself descending from a ugly fish out of nothingness

2-Created by a crazy all powerfull god with super-power that created rats,human and fish with strange twisted rules for us to follow or be punish forever and himself come out of nothingness.

>>131949086
>but muh conspiracy
If you actually read your article then you might have read the bit about iron allowing the tissue to remain. I love how you won't propose your own model to explain the diverisity of life but instead just shitpost about evolution.

>>131951293
This is why no one likes you. You give away the troll with the namefag

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>>131951553
Better yet OP believes god created this monstrosity, platybelodon.

>>131950497
No, scientific matters that were closed 200 years ago are slide threads. You really, genuinely should kys even if you are white, which is doubtful.

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Why don't you believe in evolution?

Even my religious family believe in evolution

>>131951186
>>131951186
>Don't say religion, that falls more into the belief category. It isn't a theory.

Neither is evolution. There is no evidence of life spontaneously forming, no evidence of said life becoming every other living thing. How do you explain the supposed transition from prokaryote to eukaryote? How do you explain complex organs like the eye? It's all imagined.

Also, the Big Bang theory really doesn't make sense when you actually look at it. There are a number of holes in it. Before you attack the messenger, note that these are commonly identified holes. There are Wikipedia pages on them. But yet somehow this "scientific theory" gets passed on as fact.

The Horizon Problem. Google it. No matter how far in any direction astronomers look, the universe appears homogenous. These regions are separated such that information could not have been shared between them because there hasn't been enough time.

The flatness problem. The universe is generally accepted to be flat (minimal curvature). Essentially, a very specific value for the density of matter/energy is required for the Universe to be this flat. The current density of the Universe is very close to this value. However, this value changes, meaning that the further back to the beginning of the Universe you go, the closer this density approaches this key value, so close that the difference is essentially insignificant. This is seen as evidence of fine-tuning.

>>131952577
That's not very scientific of you.

It was also once considered "scientifically closed" that the Earth was orbited by the Sun.

>>131952650
I don't believe in evolution for the same reason that I don't believe in a flat earth. It doesn't make any sense.

This is EXACLY why i am coming to /pol/ rarer and rarer, the delusion here is beyond my understanding, how can anyone in modern age (who can think logicaly) denay evolution?

>>131952650
Don't you ever lay your DIRTY eyes on my anime ever again

>>131954156
> how can anyone in modern age (who can think logicaly) denay evolution?

You, 1000 years ago:

"How can anyone in the modern age deny geocentrism?"

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>mfw gullible ppl start doubting scientific fact because of shitposting

>>131954375
>scientific fact

Geocentrism was once considered scientific fact. They even had evidence for it.

Obviously, that was shown to be nonsense.

>>131954105
Which part doesn't make sense?

>>131954156

Theyre trolling you m80 and its working wonders

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>>131954375
>fact

>>131953840
>no evidence
You mean like how sheep are selectively bread to be fluffy?

>big bang makes no sense
Then leave science to the adults and go back to 9gag.

>universe is flat
Conservation of angular momentum plus gravity

>>131954550
How would prokaryotes become eukaryotes?

How would complex systems like the eye evolve? Would parts just sit there functionless because the other parts needed for a functioning eye hadn't evolved yet?

How would sexual reproduction develop? Why and how do you go from asexual to sexual?

Even if life somehow assembled itself, how did it learn to replicate?

>>131954886
sheep can be bred to be fluffy, but no one has ever bred a sheep from a goat

>>131955073
>how prokaryotes and eukaryotes evolved

I do not have an intellectually honest answer at the current moment

>irreducible complexity
Vestigial organs are no stranger to life ie male nipples and whale hip bones

>>131955188
>muh kinds
Hippos and whaleshave plenty of transitional fossils, archeoptrx is a thing you know :)

>>131954886
>You mean like how sheep are selectively bread to be fluffy?

You destroy your own argument. Selective implies intelligence. Also, working with what's already there is far different than new material being created.

>then leave science to the adults

The Big Bang contradicts science. Are you just going to ignore the glaring holes?

>conservation of angular momentum plus gravity

You're going to have to explain, because that doesn't make do anything to solve the problem.

>>131955307
>le male nipples
what is sexual dimorphism
>le hips
they're for reproduction
https://news.usc.edu/68144/whale-reproduction-its-all-in-the-hips/
>>131955400
fossils are only proof something died, not that it had children

>>131955472
>he dosen't understand the difference between natural and artificial selection

What glaring holes

Minute physics has a great video on the subject
https://youtu.be/tmNXKqeUtJM

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>>131954724
By the deconstructive jewish logic that this controlled opposition operates on, you cannot prove that the sun is hot because hot is a relative term and ascribing it to temperature that you deem high enough to be considered hot is simply a subjective opinion.
In short, everything is spooks, nothing is real, nothing matters.

This is the path that people go down when they get too disillusioned for their own good. They become overly critical of things they are not equipped to be overly critical of (through no fault of their own sometimes).
The red pill has disastrous side effects if your proverbial immune system can't handle it.

>>131955534
>he dosen't know what vistigular means

>>131955307
>I do not have an intellectually honest answer at the current moment

So in other words you have faith that this happened?

>vestigial organs like male nipple and whale hip bones

The male nipple actually raises questions about evolution. Are you suggesting that men once could breastfeed? Or that men evolved from women, losing this ability to lactate?

The whale hip bone has function. Even evolution researchers admit this now. Google it, Harvard admits it.

>>131955073
you dont have to explain how it happened to believe it happened, i cant explain how simple life forms became complex life forms, but I believe they did, why?, because otherwise I would have to believe that complex life forms dont originate from simpler life forms, and this sounds less beliveable than its opposite

>>131956152
>you have faith
Im not as informed on cellular biology , so maybe?
>are you suggesting men did x
Actually no male nipples come from the delayed effect of the y chromosome, bad example for vistigular organs, a better example is the wings on emus and the eyes on some salamanders

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>>131955073
you dont have to explain how it happened to believe it happened, i cant explain how simple life forms became complex life forms, but I believe they did, why?, because otherwise I would have to believe that complex life forms dont originate from simpler life forms, and this sounds less beliveable than its opposite

if you want to play the agnostic card, good for you, but I dont see why you would waste your time debating us when you could be studying serious biology instead...unless evolution is secondary and what you strive for is debate

>>131955740
The glaring holes I just listed to you.

In case you missed them, here they are again:

The horizon problem.

The flatness problem.

In addition, the monopole problem. Or maybe the antimatter problem.

>video

You can't equate the solar system to the universe at large. it has nothing to do with gravity, it has everything to do with a very specific parameter. Look it up.

>>131955842
>>131956049
vistigular isn't even a word, but here's the definition for vestigial: (of an organ or part of the body) degenerate, rudimentary, or atrophied, having become functionless in the course of evolution
those hip bones still have a function

>>131955842
ok property, enjoy being a stirnercuck

>>131955073
christ I hope you're trolling

>>131956724
he is just in that "I question everything" phase

>>131956724
not an argument

>>131956475
So in other words, you take it by faith that those things happened.

Also, I'm not agnostic. I believe we were created. As to the exact processes that were used, I don't know, and I don't know if we'll ever know. I'm debating you because I want you to actually think about these things and not just accept them as fact because some guy in a "science" TV show said them.

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>>131955073
>How would prokaryotes become eukaryotes?

Look up endosymbiotic theory. The endomembrane system of eukaryotes is thought to have risen from the bacterial membrane of the progenitor bacteria that gave rise to plastids and mitochondria.

>How would complex systems like the eye evolve?

This topic has been explored thoroughly, try doing a simple google search. Light sensitive cells provide an evolutionary advantage just by being able to detect the presence of light or darkness.

>Would parts just sit there functionless because the other parts needed for a functioning eye hadn't evolved yet?

No, the early versions of sight-related cells could have a different function from later versions. For example, wings are thought to have evolved from rudimentary "gliders" that allowed animals to survive long falls more than other animals who lacked the gliders.

>How would sexual reproduction develop? Why and how do you go from asexual to sexual?

Sexual reproduction is highly advantageous because it allows for greater genetic diversity in a population, which increases the rate of evolution. Having more traits to select from == having a higher chance of advantageous traits arising from random mutations and recombination events in a populatiton.

>Even if life somehow assembled itself, how did it learn to replicate?
You happen to be posting from a planet where life learned to replicate, but there are 1,000,000,000,000,000+ worlds where it didn't happen. See: anthropic principle. Also, cells which pass on the ability to replicate are obviously going to stick around longer than cells that are genetic dead weight.

>>131945989
>If you truly believe humans descended from this then you have swallowed the Kool-Aid.
I totally know what you mean, Jesus proves we have more in common with palm trees and starfish.

>>131956885
>I believe in infinite universes
nice religion

>>131953974
>Read a book
>Jump off a bridge
Pick one, I have no time for you.

>>131956528
>horizon
What is the inflation period

>flatness problem
What is inflation again

>the universe needs this certain peramiter to look this way

Thats like saying whats the odds that this piece of plastic fits its mold, the universe has had its laws and devolped with them not with a preconceived image of the universe and set the laws to fit. You are purposely trying to shoehorn in a creator

>>131945989
why do you post this bait thread all day you colossal faggot

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>>131945989
>Derp

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>>131956857
yes, I take it by ultimately by faith because I am not a biologist and I dont pretend to understand the reasoning or proofs behind the theory, it is a theory that fits my worldview and explains a wide variaty of phenomena like for example why humans are similar to dogs but even more similar to monkeys(why life resembles other life in different degrees in general), perhaps it is wrong to accept the paradigm of your time, but perhaps it is also wrong to oppose it just for the sake of being contrarian without having any serious alternative to put on the table

Also, whats the point in debating biology with people you are not certain they understand biology?, as I said, if it is evolution what matters to you you could spend this same hours doing some hard serious study instead of debating strangers on /pol/, we are not scientists, even if we convinced you to believe in evolution it wouldnt be because of us being right but of us being more persuasive

>>131956614
It's pretty obvious from my post that I don't subscribe to Stirner's philosophy.
Surely you didn't simply reply to the picture you saw without actually reading?

>denying extensive research to where any more investigation on this topic would be superfluous is considered "red-pilling"
>posts a news article that has little to no relevancy in supporting that denying evolution despite all the evidence is logical
The news article you've posted is just sharing the discovery of an ancestor to many multi-cellular lifeforms.
>Why are people so willing to question the government/elite on multiculturalism, sexuality, etc. but so blindly go along with them on mankind's origins?
Because the origin of mankind is something told to you, it's backed up by research. We don't go by what biologist say with just their word. What do you think peer-reviewed means? Why do you pretend that it's just all a conspiracy and you're being lied to? Why are you pretending that scientists that do lie are not found out and discredited?

>>131945989
I'm not even religious

I just feel like there's something extremely arrogant (and vaguely racist) about assuming that 99% of human civilization was fundamentally wrong about our origins, and it was a white guy with a beard who finally got it right.

To reject intelligent design, you have to make a very unintuitive assumption about the nature of human reason; You have to assume that; not only has every culture, every civilization, every scientific discipline in history (up to 19th century Britain) been wrong; but that they have been wrong in the same exact way. Which, of course, is unprecedented, for how is it possible that over tens of thousands of years, hundreds of millions of people all asked the same question, and found the same wrong answer? It would be like if all of human history thought that 2+2=5 and we only just recently discovered that it's 4.

>>131954508
>Geocentrism was once considered scientific fact
It never was considered scientific fact even before the invention of the scientific method. Anything pre-Enlightenment was never defined as scientific fact like science is now. For fucks sake geocentrism was disproven in the time of Galileo.

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>>131957479

I have a personality disorder and I see myself in 10 years much like him. I am afraid of this but as it stands I have all of the negative side effects and symptoms of being a paranoid schizophrenic with no safety net of not knowing how crazy I am. So I burdened with knowing I have crazy thoughts instead of just going with it.

I would rather be a nigger transsexual amputee than have a schizophrenic disorder but because I'm a white cisgender male with PTSD and a schizophrenic disorder, I'm basically going to be crucified.

>>131955073
>how did life learn to replicate
Loaded question, self replication isn't something learned it's just chemistry. Do elements learn alpha decay? Fucking retard

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>>131958316
>I just feel like there's something extremely arrogant (and vaguely racist) about assuming that 99% of human civilization was fundamentally wrong about our origins, and it was a white guy with a beard who finally got it right.
99% of human civilization was wrong about everything and still is, also you are adopting a judeochristiancentric point of view by assuming that inteligent design is shared by all cultures, I please ask you to stop being so arrogant and racist and study other cultures to understand that not all creation myths fall under the abrahamic paradigm, if you refuse and continue to imply that all cultures in human history have embraced intelligent design I will be forced to respectfully ask you to leave

>>131956885
>endosymbiotic theory

This doesn't explain the actual mechanisms in which the organelles developed.

>light sensitive cells provide evolutionary advantage

That doesn't explain how those cells developed. It's like me saying I'd have an advantage if my dick was 8 inches, even though it's not.

>sight-related cell functions

Again, that doesn't explain the mechanisms that supposedly brought this about. You're only postulating.

>sexual reproduction is highly advantageous

But how would that evolve? Again, you're not talking about the actual mechanisms, you're just offering reasons something being better. That's like me saying that Toyotas are better than Hondas and concluding that Toyotas evolved from Hondas.

>life replicating

You start with the assumption that life learned to replicate and use it as proof of life learning to replicate. That's called circular reasoning. Also, again, you're offering rationale without showing any process that brought it about.

>>131958316
>99% of humanity was wrong
Well if 99% of humanity is just spouting off that 2+2=5 without anyone actually going out of their way to verify it that's the result you get. Why was 99% of humanity wrong? Because of ignorance. I think it's pretty fucking selfish to not care about the truth, and force others to live in your own delusion. Are you seriously asking how 99% of mankind has been wrong along about medicine? Because that a perfect analogy

>>131956885
>Sexual reproduction is highly advantageous because it allows for greater genetic diversity in a population
How would it evolve by chance, though?

What are the odds of a species developing penises -and- vaginas simultaneously? We are told that evolution happens very gradually, but how can you have varying gradations of penises and vaginas, organs which -- by their very nature -- must have very similar sizes and shapes?

>>131945989
>tfw muslims are more redpilled on evolution than the west
b-based mudslimes?

>>131958874
>you are adopting a judeochristiancentric point of view by assuming that inteligent design is shared by all cultures
Every culture in history has believed that the Earth and everything on it was created by some intelligent force. They didn't all call it "God", but they all follow that basic format. Egyptians believed we were created by Ra, the Norse believed we were created by Odin, Indians believe we were created by Brahma, the Japanese believe we were created by Amaterasu, and certain Native American groups believed we were created by a "Great Spirit." There has never been a religion that says we evolved.

>>131959185
>What are the odds of a species developing penises -and- vaginas simultaneously
You do realize there are fucking plants that reproduce sexually

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>>131959139
are you implying that 99% of humanity was wrong when they held that illness was caused by evil spirits?, wow, so arrogant and racist
>>131959185
>How would it evolve by chance, though?
trial and error
>What are the odds of a species developing penises -and- vaginas simultaneously?
about 13%
>We are told that evolution happens very gradually, but how can you have varying gradations of penises and vaginas, organs which -- by their very nature -- must have very similar sizes and shapes?
yes

>>131959395
Because religion doesn't care about the truth. All it does is provide an answer

>>131959390
Majority of Muslims and Jews believe in (((evolution))), that should be an ENORMOUS red flag.

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>>131947811
>publish asomething and get a nobel prize for it that doesnt align with public opinion
>2k15+2

>>131945989
"There are no peer reviewed articles by anyone advocating for intelligent design supported by pertinent experiments or calculations which provide detailed rigorous accounts of how intelligent design of any biological system occurred.”
-Professor Michael Behe on cross-examination during the Kitzmiller v Dover trial

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>>131959395
>Every culture in history has believed that the Earth and everything on it was created by some intelligent force.
absolutely wrong, you obviously dont understand none of the religions you have listed, you just picked a series of names of god and supposed that the other person was as ignorant as you and would take it as given. To just give you one example, the viking universe is not created by Odin, this is a blatant lie that just proves how untrustworthy your opinions must be and how little have you researched this topics, to learn more about viking cosmology just fucking google it

I know of plenty of religions that dont involve intelligent desing, just to name two: jainism and buddhism, eventough most "primitive" religions, explain the creation of the universe as a natural cyclical process, not a rational choice by some God with capital letter.

As I said, you are an ignorant racist and should leave this board until you have learned more about other cultures

>>131957141

>inflation period

You realize that this was made up to try and solve the problems, right? It literally says on the Wikipedia page that the Horizon problem was one of the justifications for developing the inflation theory.

That's not science. Science is working with observed phenomena and developing theories based off that, not making up phenomena to justify your hypothesis.

>you are purposely trying to shoehorn in a creator

When even atheists admit that this value points toward fine-tuning (i.e. something to tune it) it's not just me pushing it.

Also, this isn't just a matter of the universe's current shape. Under the Big Bang model, the universe would have either collapsed back in on itself or expanded too quickly for complex structures (galaxies, stars, etc) to form

Evolution has been reconstructed using chickens in a lab.

I miss that anon with a biology doctorate. Obviously his work isn't finished

>>131959486
Nah some muslims believe in the big bang because of shit in their book but are against evolution.

I mean you can look up news articles, forums, even youtube videos where muslims argue against teaching the unproven theory of evolution.
If they weren't generally brown and with an accent then you'd be hard-pressed to tell them apart from chrisatians who battle against evoluton being taught in the west.

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>>131959185

They evolved penis and vagina by chance , and also the instinct to fuck .


>mfw

>>131959876
>Under the Big Bang model, the universe would have either collapsed back in on itself or expanded too quickly for complex structures
According to whom?

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>>131945989
That creature has a neocortex, mammals have a neocortex because we share similar DNA in the tree of evolution, and that includes humans. Sorry pal, you're full of more shit than a sewer. Your monotheist religion was started by Jews. Kek

>>131959737
>(((Kitzmiller)))

>>131959814
>To just give you one example, the viking universe is not created by Odin
I didn't say the universe was created by Odin. I said "we" (as in, the human race; I assume you are human?) were created by Odin.

Or, more accurately, we were created by the brothers Odin, Vili, and Ve (hey look at that, a trinity of gods!)

Yes, the Norse religion did (and still does) support intelligent design.

Why do threads like this still exist on the internet when we have the bogdanoffs

>>131960060
Where did the matter that exploded come from?

>>131959876
>it's not science unless I say so
Anon what the fuck

>>131960060
Check the measurement section, it provides a citation as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatness_problem

>>131960545
>what is the scientific method

>>131960497
I'm not a cosmologist so I wouldn't know. What we do know is that all of the matter in the universe was at one point in time all at one place. Just because we don't know something is not justification to call it god. That's not giving us an answer that's holding us back from uncovering the truth

>>131960321
>two things have something in common therefore one evolved from the other

I have a brain, you have a brain. That doesn't mean I evolved from you.

>>131960773
>I'll say something does not follow the scientific method and not explain how it does not

>>131960987
It means you have a common ancestor with a prehistoric species that had one

>>131960990
What part of the scientific method calls for somebody to invent phenomena to fit the theory?

>>131961101
>proves common ancestor

Why wouldn't it prove a common Creator?

>>131960676
>I don't understand the science behind what I link but I'll show it to you and pretend it's an argument.
Use it and make an argument out of it you dunce

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>>131959989

To add to that the female instinct became receiving , while the male instinct became giving, evolution its almost magic

>>131960911
Cosmologists cant find it out because it is impossible
The best ive seen from faggots is that it was from the last universe that collapsed but then where did that one come from
And because we dont know something also means that its not justification to call it whatever scientist literally made up

>>131961181
Because that's unfalsifiable

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>>131960987
AHHAHAHAHAAA
Did you forget how ancestry works?! Oh wait, that's right, you're an inbreeder. Kek :^D

I DID NOT EVOLVE

>>131961247
So you're dismissing an argument because of the way in which it was transmitted to you?

That does nothing to address the argument itself. Also, keep in the mind that these are proponents of the Big Bang admitting these problems.

>>131961125
You've just repeated your initial statement.

>>131961372
so is common ancestor

>>131961368
>we do not know something
>scientist make up something to answer
That's what religion does

>>131961452
>dismissing an argument
I was never given an argument. You don't understand the context of what you're showing me which is why you do not have an argument.

>>131961655
So if a blind and deaf man came up and handed you a book full of evidence for something, you would dismiss it because the man doesn't understand the context of it. That's what you're saying.

>>131945989
Oh no, what would I ever do if some random person on the internet didn't think I was """redpilled""".

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>>131961565
Then i guess all these religious texts were a coincidence so we should believe whatever people today say
Really boggles your noggles

>>131961542
>what is DNA sequencing
Anyone that understands how evolution works knows that we can tell how "far" apart every living species is by sequencing their amino acids. We build taxa off of this. Look at the great apes. Surprise surprise look at how nearly identical their sequences are. Look at another non great ape animal. Our DNA sequencing is much closer than a fish.

>>131961889
No, I would dismiss him because he does not understand what he's reading

>>131962041
But you wouldn't dismiss the actual evidence?

If so, why wouldn't that principle apply here?

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>>131950055

>triggered christcuck

topkek but pathetic

>>131961968
Except we don't go by scientist on what they say.
See here >>131958082

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>>131962041
>dismissing evidence because of anything
Kys

>>131961452
We are a part of the biological emergence of the planet, plus we're not the only sentient beings in the universe with this form of philosophy, there was never a god, it's a complete kike lie made to create compulsively devoted fanatics like you, we don't need Christianity to maintain morality, that's what national socialism is for, I believe in civil rights, you can have your religion, but don't expect me to respect your pitiful devotion to it.

>>131961975
>things that look similar to each other have more similar genetics

That does nothing to show the origin of each thing. It doesn't tell you that one came from the other. That's you projecting a belief onto it.

>>131962143
You do not have an argument. You present me evidence but you do not know why it is evidence. If you could put that article in layman's terms I would have no problem taking into consideration what you tell me

>>131962328
>national socialism
>I believe in civil rights

wut

>>131962208
Then post the infallible researches and articles

>>131962394
I literally did put it in layman's terms. The article itself is in layman's terms. That you didn't take the time to read it doesn't warrant dismissing it.

>>131962437
You have no idea what you're actually talking about do you? You outright ignored the rest of >>131962328

You're obsessively retarded.

>>131962183
This faggot still believes in the 9th Century fairy tale called Evolution written by th Darwin sky man

>>131962362
>he does not understand amino acid sequencing
Do you even know what speciation is? Amino acids differ between species because of it. If evolution were true, which it is, we should find a tree of all species. When we find a fossil of homo erectus and notice all of the homoligies with existing species, we know that those existing species came from it. What we mean by came from isn't literal. When homo sapiens did not exist 1mya, anatomically correct humans, there was a population of homo erectus, This population will change gradually until a point where the current population would no longer have been able to reproduce with the population that used to exist. So we now have a new species

>>131962538
>article itself is in layman's terms
Nice joke. Saying that there are problems with the big bang isn't putting the article into layman's terms

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>>131945989
>>131947447
Shitty d&c. Fuck off shareblue fags

>>131962868
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS-GYLVNh-k


Dawkins did not even know what a cell was if he did he would have recanted his theory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS-GYLVNh-k

>>131962868
Unlike religion science doesn't stay stagnant. Countless scientists after Darwin have added to the theory of evolution only making what Darwin first discovered more accurate.

>>131962990
Then how do you explain fish that remained untouched for gajillion years
And all that shit doesnt prove evolution, just that there are similarities between species

I'm Christian and believe that evolution and the natural order of things can be considered part of God's method for creation/design. There's no reason you need to believe one or the other

That said, creature in OP's link is fucking disgusting and no decent person should write a fucking article about it

>>131963463

And then you get this from your prophet, aliens made life on earth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiVoS78lNqM

>>131963616
Then you're a heretic

>>131963483
Same explanation for why crocodiles look similar to how they used to 60 million years ago. When an organism is in an environment that does not change any new adaptations would be unnecessary. Therefore they do not spread or provide any advantage to the population that current exists. Conversely, there is punctuated equilibrium where organisms that are introduced to new environments experience rapid diversification.

>>131963911
>Conversely, there is punctuated equilibrium where organisms that are introduced to new environments experience rapid diversification.
Proofs
And if the sea didnt change then how do you explain the fish that allegedly did evolve. Were they in a different part of the ocean?

>>131963852
Why? It's not my fault some scientists hacked into God's work-product

>>131949086
No they haven't. Professors have lost job off putting out bad papers with faked evidence to "disprove" evolution.

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>>131964372
>hacked into God's work-product
>why am i a heretic

>>131964296
>Were they in a different part of the ocean?
I too wonder what it means by climate remaining unchanged.

>>131964822
Then why didnt some fish evolve?
There were a couple of ice ages between gajillion years bc and today and yet they are somehow the same

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>>131965015
>yet they are somehow the same

Your IQ is 89, isn't it?

>>131964645
I don't think you understand English or the appropriate time to post that meme

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>>131955073
Congratulations anon, you exposed people with faith in science to be just as biased and unscientific-minded as those with faith in God whom they so mock for.

>>131945989
>You are not "red-pilled" if you believe in evolution.
Evolution is a fact-based science that you accept if you are rational. It not something that requires "belief". That's why people a lot smarter than you accept evolution, and idiots on your end of the spectrum don't.

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>>131965306
>Being this based

>>131959876
You are just spouting total ignorance from 'I fucking love science' and the like. If you want to understand more about the topic go and take an astrophysics course, this stuff isn't really the kind to be understood after 20 minutes of browsing Wikipedia, people actually have to study it for years.

>>131950055
Im an atheist and not a communist. but you christcucks will get gassed second after the luddites

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>>131965235
>what is so called living fossil

>89 IQ
nice projection

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>>131965617
You're defeated, cuck.

>>131965281
I just clicked the first image that looked like something appropriate
I found out what it was the same moment you did

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>>131965847
No, you

>>131952650
christcucks are dumb man

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>>131945989
Because most of the science is right. Vaccines are fine, humans are fucking up the environment, evolution is real, the earth is a sphere. Science is like that, not reliable, not incorruptible, but being a facet of logos there's a capacity within it that speaks of truth unerring and it tends to find its way out. It's just part of the inevitable progress of scientific advancement.

The other shit - multiculti, sexuality, the whole leftist shabang on PEOPLE is philosophical and ethos based. That means it's up to interpretation, can be dragged through the pathos mud as leftists do, and can contain questions of good and evil. The thing with the people question is that if people hadn't discovered the truth about human beings, civilization and advanced human organization wouldn't have been possible. We'd still be in tribes chucking spears. People figured humans out ages ago - keep your own exclusive, fight for your own, the family is the foundation of society, monogamous marriage is the foundation of the family, marriage is man and woman, the woman submits to the man, find shit to bond over, don't forget your traditions, etc. Every civilization including the ones we live in right now were born this way because it's the truth, if it had been lies then we wouldn't have nations.

So then you niggers show up on left and right and decide that the science stuff and the people stuff are the same.
Leftists are like "well science keeps getting better so that means everything we know keeps getting better so that means what we know about people is the best knowledge there has ever been!" They're idiots.
And then you come along and you're like "leftists are wrong about people why do you agree with their science?!"
It's because you're an idiot too.
You're the biggest nigger on the Internet.
You're the reason people who think there are literally no intelligence difference between the sexes or races are under the impression that they're the champions of science and reasoning.

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>>131961350
You two must've failed basic biology.

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>>131958782

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>>131947447
Maybe if Hitler had better maps he would have won the war?

>>131960497
black hole, at least that's one theory. In said theory the universe goes though cycles of "big bangs" then after it cannot expand anymore it starts collapsing in on itself.

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>>131945989
This is a very good thred

>>131953840
>Neither is evolution.
Evolution is a theory like gravity.

>There is no evidence of life spontaneously forming,
The origin of life is not within the realm of evolution. If you were a lot smarter, you'd know that evolution does not begin until the second species diverged from the first species.

>no evidence of said life becoming every other living thing.
Well, there are literally millions of specific examples of speciation and DNA tells us with some precision the recent ancestry of many Holocene species.

>the Big Bang theory really doesn't make sense when you actually look at it.
>I'm not smart enough to understand it so you must not be either.
The universe is what it is. But it is apparently one where life is possible in many places and human existence has already reached a probability of 1.

>the universe appears homogenous
Why would that be a problem? Our limited senses perceive a limited range of cosmological
identifiers. That doesn't necessarily make what we observe improbable or unbelievable.


How do you explain the supposed transition from prokaryote to eukaryote? How do you explain complex organs like the eye? It's all imagined.

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>>131966505
fixt

>>131966469

No evolving a penis will take millions of years , at what point does it become a vestigial organ?

>>131966505
>Stupid and gay.

Reality check faggot, he's the same as other /pol/lacks, except you disregard science, despite it being responsible for the telecommunications and technology you're currently using to disregard the fact that we emerged naturally from the environment of the planet and it's vast regions.

>>131953840
>complex organs like the eye
>he doesn't know about eyespots/pit eyes/compound eyes/spherical lenses
you can't say it doesn't make sense when you don't know what the fuck you're talking about

is this really the best theistfags have to offer?

>>131966469
microbes don't exist because I cant see them, they are in fact mini demons

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>>131967025
Who are you quoting?

>>131967233
I repurposed the green text for mocking.

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>>131966505
Why don't you go adopt some niglets like your fellow christcucks? it is the christian thing to do as BASED niggers are your brothers in G-D

>>131966749
Look at this shit>>131961368
Read the thread before posting

>>131967161
>/pol/
>Hates race-mixing, denies evolution.

TFW?

>>131958925
>you can't explain the origins of life - therefore magical space wizard that says "no pork no fags praise me or die"

>>131967621
of curse my fellow brother in G-D, we must prevent the evil of evolution from reaching our wives BASED black sons

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>>131956528
>The glaring holes I just listed to you.
>There are GAPS!
Why don't just invent some Gods until we get it sorted out?

>>131947447
>Asgard
>Reachable on foot
REEEEEE BIFROST OR BY AID OF THE GODS

>>131965415
Got any proof of your assertions?

>>131968217
Yes.

>>131950394
Asians are notorious test cheaters and probably got the answers for their IQ tests. Every Asian I ever met was a fucking retard.

>>131968402
>Yes
But that isn't a peer reviewed study. You must be a flat earther.

>>131949086
>soft tissue
>he thinks dinosaur fossils are actual bone

you fucking retard

>>131969002
http://www.history.com/news/scientists-find-soft-tissue-in-75-million-year-old-dinosaur-bones

Shill harder

>>131955073
>How would prokaryotes become eukaryotes?
Look at fucking both cells, bacteria is literally the shape of organelles in eukaryotic cells. Some of them merged to work together.

>How would complex systems like the eye evolve?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnAAcr-26NA

>How would sexual reproduction develop? Why and how do you go from asexual to sexual?
There are species that can do both. Obviously they do what is more practical and advantageous for them. The difference is meiosis and mitosis.

>Even if life somehow assembled itself, how did it learn to replicate?
Do you really have no idea how DNA, meiosis or mitosis works? Go back to fricken middle school. The damn thing peels in half and gives one half to the new offspring. The simple DNA half just bends back into a helix and the complex half combines with another DNA half.

>>131950535
>God is not real
>But frog gods are

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I don't understand, why can't we just coexist? Either Atheist or Theist it doesn't really matter.

>>131970082
The only ones not getting along are the American Protestants and Muslims

>>131969655
>some of them merged to work together

How?

>video

>guy makes up ideas about how he thinks the eye evolved

>there are species that can do both

That doesn't explain why sexual reproduction came about.

>DNA, meiosis, mitosis

No shit, but how do you think these processes came about?

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>>131970385
>God. :^)

Because let's not actually accomplish anything beneficial for humanity and just kiss Jesus's ass, and pray he forgives our sins. Keep being inferior minded, goyim.

>>131945989
>denying science