Tech Billionaires are buying doomsday shelters

>>131937316
>universal basic income

>>131937316

>It's either that or they're selling our personal data to the highest bidder.

No shit.

>>131937316

Why do you think they are pushing UBI dipshit? Gets them Brownie Points from the left (Avoiding them being labelled Ebil Right Wing Corporatists) and helps sooth over what they see as the automation threat.

>>131938234
What's wrong with that?

Keep consuming and giving us data goys!

>>131937316
Sorry Grandpa it's time to go to the retirement home.

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The world is changing fast.

People without education, like 87% of the monthly visitors of this board (survey by vice news), will have a terrible future.

You either learn to like maths and coding or you will be the slaves of those who do. There was a time where you could live on society's edge and not contribute to anything and have a (((decent living wage))) but that time has come to an end.

If you don't obbey the rules of the new rulers of this world, you will live miserably.

The only question is, what will you do

>>131937316

they are not safe from the people who built it lol dumbass nerds

>>131938862
>People without education, like 87% of the monthly visitors of this board (survey by vice news), will have a terrible future.

Proofs?

>>131938322

UBI is a vehicle to governmental slavery and an uncontrollable hyper-welfare state.

Look up 'Riders of the Purple Wage' by Philip Jose Farmer. That kind of society would be inevitable under such a system. Degradation and stagnation of nations and societies to the extreme.

>>131938862

Most white collar jobs are going to be automated too. The only jobs that will be left are trades and jobs that require human interaction.

>>131937316
I MEAN THIS IS BREAKING STUFF PEOPLE

THE ILLUMINATI ELITE ARE PEDOPHILE SATANIST THAT ARE BUYING EXPLOSIVE UNDERGROUND DOOMSDAY SHELTERS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM THE TOXIC GAY RAYS THEIR AUTOMATION SYSTEMS ARE EMITTING

THIS IS INCREDIBLE STUFF. BUT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK AND TALK ABOUT HOW INFOWARS WATER FILTERS ARE THE HIGHEST GRADE WATER FILTERS YOU CAN BUY. TECHNOLOGICALLY PROVEN TO FILTER OUT ALL THR CHEMICALS AND HORMONES AND BRAINWASH RADIATION IN THE WATER.

>>131939086
I dont care about proof nigga

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>>131937316
>muh automation
The most retarded meme ever. What do you think the industrial revolution was about? Hint: It was automation. Technologically speaking, most jobs can already be automated. The jobs that aren't automated are not automated for reasons unrelated to technology.

They have been doing this since the 90s. Not news.

>>131939765
Well, the horses paid the price for that one.

>>131938862
>People without education

A society in which you need a STEM PhD to make a living has no reliable future

>>131939332
What else will the people without jobs do? How will they survive?

>>131937793
>everyone gets a thousand dollars a month
>everything gets even more expensive
>taxes go up to fund UBI and the government
>take the worthless money goy

UBI people can never actually explain how it would work.

>>131937316
>he isnt prepping for the happening
Its like youre trying to die.

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>>131939765
are you comparing technology that replaced beasts of burden to technology that replaces people?

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>>131937316
A cave is a grave. Let them dig.

actually automation is a good thing it will make it easier and cheaper for someone to start up his own business, thus more competition, also it would be easier to compete against huge AAA companies.
For instance I make video games, before you would have to higher a texture artist, 3d modeler, concept artist and a rigger, sounds expensive right? well not anymore with the tools to day you can higher a 3d modeler to do both texture and 3d art and rig a character, thus making it cheaper for me to start a buisness and create my product, now with the unreal 4 engine out i don't even have to higher tons of expensive programmers to make an game engine. automatation is great for small buisness.

>>131940230

Through the help of finding a job, private charity, and some basic governmental welfare when or if needed.

>>131938862
The first job that AI will be programmed to do is code.

>>131940555
What technology. Be specific. Servos? Neural networks? Censors? Guess what? This technology has been around for decades. Sure, it has gotten smaller, but most jobs don't require microtechnology to be automated. It's not automated for other reasons. Protip: Companies respond to demand and humans aren't demanding the robot apocalypse you retards are imagining.

It amazes me how far-removed most of you faggots are from the real world.

>>131938862
>Survey by (((Vice))) news
>flag

>what will you do?

Probably watch your deformed movement kill all the intellectuals when you realize you can't do maths

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>>131937316

Sorry to break it to you OP, but the real reason why the elites are buying doomsday shelters is not economical....it's religious.

Trust me, it's not /just/ the four horseman coming to earth....there's another group of 4 ALREADY HERE!!!!

It was written and foretold millennia ago that during the "end of days" (read the signals, were in the end times as a planet) that the kings of this world will be the Archangels Michael, Raphael, Gabriel, and Uriel....

>>131940316
What's the alternate if millions of people lose their jobs?
>>131940633
>Through the help of finding a job

Not many jobs left

>private charity

Can this take care of millions of unemployed people?

>some basic governmental welfare

How is this different from UBI? Poor man's UBI?

>>131940900
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-GTiaA9h88

if AI can code then AI can kill us all

>>131941103
I'm actually writing a story based on this.

>>131941213
>What's the alternate if millions of people lose their jobs?
How is UBI even an option if you can't even explain how it would work, you're just spouting nonsense

>>131937316
You are saying tech billionaires are buying doomsday shelters and prepare for the societal collapse due to Automation. But you do not provide any Source data or evidence.

>>131937316
What's the point of raking in billions if you're just going to hold up at home jacking off all day? What's their endgame?

>>131941372
AI will be able to code, its some time intensive and formula/math based that its actually perfect for giving to AI as one of the first things to do where the result of the AIs labor will make money as well. AI coding vs human coding will be no different than a computer competing against humans at doing math.

Billionaires should invent pill that increase IQ so when everything is automated, they will give it for free and dumb people will focus on smart stuff and solving problems.

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>>131941493
I just googled, " tech billionaires are buying doomsday shelters and prepare for the societal collapse due to Automation." Took me less than 5 seconds and I found dozens of sources.

>>131941600
Hold money till land decreases half way through riots.
Buy up as much as possible via proxy.
Wait for shit to blow over.
Come out with writs and contracts for land.
Promise land and homes for people to serve you as serfs.

Same shit that worked in the past for medieval lords and dukes.

Karl Marx was right!

>>131940316

Why would goods that are produced under fully automated industries get more expensive?

>>131940594
make a geopolitcial simulator of current times, nobody is taking this niche , even faggots from paradox refuse to make it .

>>131941600
it makes no sense, if you are going to make billions but it will cause fall of civilisation then your virtual money are worthless.

Only way to keep billions is to make normies feel like they are treated good while feeding them up with shit.

It works in oil based countries. While there is a group of people with billions $$$, they share very small % of it with whole society so normies are convinced that its all okay and fair. Otherwise they would rebel.

>>131941213
>What's the alternate if millions of people lose their jobs?
ww3 to eradicate 90% of the world's population while the elite live in automated bunkers until the surface is livable again

>>131937316
>Do they deserve any of their wealth

What is it with liberals thinking these CEO's are worthy of their net worth? It's like they're jealous or something.

time to find the blueprints of every bunker being built for my future group of pirate bunker raiders

>>131941429
I'm not a fan of UBI in general, though I read an interesting article which posed it as an option to an alternative to welfare programs.
10K a year. If you make over 25K a year, 5K is taxed.

>>131942262
I have your back anon, We're currently making western game great again!!!

>>131938862
>You either learn to like maths and coding or you will be the slaves of those who do
Ha, I'll just make my living suing people like I do now

>automation will eliminate lawsuits
try again, lawfags will be sitting pretty everytime a robot breaks and one company sues the manufacturer/seller/servicer of that robot.

Thankfully, most of my profession cannot be automated. You can get forms from legalzoom or whatever but legalzoom can't write an appeal. .

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>>131942717
count me in cap'n

>>131942060
Its all speculation. Their reasons why they build them are unknown. But you have to see it from their perspective. Its like spending a single cent for an insurance to you. They have infinite money why not build some cheap Shelter for a few millions. To have a plan b just in case. But is it due to automation ??

>>131941600
>Their endgame

Their endgame is simple and obvious.

Step 0: loot the system of it's wealth

Step 1: hide in their basement when the shit hits the fan and there's a bunch of unemployed peasants running around.

Step 2: after the dust settles they re-emerge from their basements as part of the post-crisis ruling technocrat class.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcCfkKziWa8

>>131937316
Imagine that jews get extremely wealthy when the federal reserve prints trillions of dollars.

>>131942823
Fan or not you better start liking it because it's inevitable. Machines will out-perform people in every facet of existence. What these nerds are essentially doing is replacing our species.

If you think AI can't write music or paint pretty pictures you're just a retard. Sorry. I hope you like mountain climbing and exploring the world, that's the only thing people will be able to enjoy recreationally that robots can't take away.

>>131937316
This is why Socialism is the ultimate redpill

If I had the money(and I wouldn't get thrown in the bay), I too would build a fully sustainable nuclear powered bunker in NZ.

>>131938862
White collar paper-pushing jobs are the first on the chopping block, boyo. All you need is robust software. Trades and jobs that require physical interaction with customers or materials are much harder to automate, because you need a reliable general purpose humanoid robot with sufficiently advanced AI to handle a variety of tasks.

>>131943060
There is only one reason to build a bunker/shelter like that. Is it all because of automation? Who knows, I think most of it is anticipating a market crash, which you would have to be fucking retarded not to anticipate one at this point. Sometime in the next 10 years the world is going to change very quickly for the worse.

>>131937316

To be honest, society was correcting itself until liberals wanted to import millions upon millions of low IQ/high birthrate migrants.

> Institute a 1 child policy throughout the world (except in places where the population is already declining.)

This will allow the population to level out with the inevitable increase in automation. Problems solved. Not to mention, if the population goes down, the quality of life rises. This can be done peacefully and without any bloodshed at all. It's a realistic way of solving this problem (as well as a possible UBI until we level out the population.)

>>131938862
>STEM majors thinks everything boils down to math and coding for survival

Don't come crying to farmers for food and produce when all you've been doing your whole life is sitting in a computer chair coding while I spend daylight to farm and gardening.

Please, code me up meal.

>>131939971

underrated

>>131937316
Whats up with this automation talk. Media is hyping it like tommorow we wake up all jobs will be taken by robots.

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>>131943036
Alright number one

>>131941087
>demanding the robot apocalypse
we will see about that when the first human like sex androids are for sale with a tesla like intellect

>>131937793
do you think the people buuying up these bunkers are going to pay for YOU to live after automation makes you obsolete? you're a fucking lunatic. They don't CARE about you. if they did they would advocate for law changes to take away some of their money

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>>131937316
i feel like any billionaire who doesn't build their own fortress is just doing it wrong. i would literally build a small castle with stone walls and a keep as my home. the keep would be teched out and comfortable, but my house would literally be a fortress with a gate house and an outer wall. no need to worry about burglars, zombies, or chimpouts.

>>131943171
Sorry, I should have clarified. I'm not a fan of UBI in our current state.
I'm actually well aware of the possible future, and I welcome it.
Assuming we don't blast our selves to death in a nuclear holocaust, the future looks bright and shiny to me. I'm a follower of transhumanism.
There's literally nothing stopping the progression, and it will only get quicker once we open the box of bioengineering we've been kicking around. It's been the "next big thing" for the last 50 years.

>>131938862
>learn maths or coding
lol we don't need 7 billion mathematicians or coders

>>131943509
>All you need is robust software.
Wow, did you know that to remove our dependency on oil all we need is a super alternative unlimited fuel source? Lets state other retarded obvious things like they're going to happen tomorrow.

>>131942183
Why wouldn't they?

>>131937793
>infinite consumption
no thanks

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Yes they've known for years humanity is ending. The Beautiful People are. Lonely neets locking themselves away from society. Violence and hate running rampant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z760XNy4VM

It's almost over and the ones in the know are trying to prepare for it. The ultimate red pill is that the rich evil guys are the ones trying to save humanity.

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>McDonalds automates making cheeseburgers
>Now there is nobody left to make cheeseburgers for
>mfw burger without burgers

>>131943171
>replacing our species
Think long term. What is a tool? It is an object that we use to accomplish a task we cannot do ourselves. We cannot drive nails with our fists, so we use hammers. We cannot run at 100mph, so we use cars. We cannot solve thousands of complex equations in milliseconds, so we use computers. But what if we didn't need those tools to achieve the same result? What if we could do what the hammer the car, and the computer does without external aid? The end goal of machine superintelligence is not to merely do everything for us, but to allow us to become capable enough that we don't need it. The final purpose of AI is to put itself out of a job.

not gonna happen. they build bunkers to avoid the coming war. automation cannot keep up with living organisms. just because some nigger robot can draw good does not make humans replaceable. have you heard the faggoty music robots make? not good. you are misinformed. the gay geniuses who invent this shit know that life is not replaceable by machines. the only thing your bitch ass comment can hope for is genetic manipulation of existing life. this bullshit is a pipe dream. not sure its political either fag. THEY said the same thing when aquaducts were invented. piece of shit fear mongering.

>>131944262
This is a pretty good documentary for anyone wondering if they should watch it

>>131944338
I can't wait for that to happen honestly.

Now we dont have to waste our time feeding those lard asses indefinitely.

>>131944082
because labor costs are eliminated.

>>131944572
there's infinite demand now dumbass.

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>>131937316

They also have Underwater Bunkers in some paces. Which are more expensive then the Underground Bunkers.

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>>131944016
Stop being willfully obtuse. As we speak, machines are doing financial analysis and conducting millions of dollars of trades. They are driving cars. They are diagnosing cancer better than panels of physicians. They are delivering food and packages. It's already happening you moron. Just because the entire economy isn't automated yet, doesn't mean automation isn't a thing. Neither does anything you said invalidate my point. A desk job requires no interaction with physical materials, so it is by definition easier to automate than a maintenance welder job in an oil refinery.

>>131938862
I have a bachelors yet work in the trades, make 35/hr total comp.
no need for calculus or coding. I took physics in hs and did fine. Not all jobs need it.
If you truly work hard which has been lost as people left farming you can still do well.

>>131937316
The rich have been doing this for years. You only need to worry when they start disappearing into those bunkers. That means they probably know somepu dont

>>131941103
o goodness, a braindead religious tardnugget right hyuh

>>131944650
whats happening now?

>>131944730
Fuck off Frank. Post a real source for once in your life.

>>131937316
>Tech Billionaires are buying doomsday shelters

Cool

>because they think automation is going to cause a societal collapse

Speculation. Potential societal collapse is a secondary reason to build an awesome shelter.

>>131941411
you're not the first faggot to jack of to your own lack of creativity either

>>131943967
Removing the struggle from life will be like activating invincibility in a video game. Our lives will become very boring. When AI starts replacing us in art, we'll officially have zero purpose.

All the musical artists you listen to, their music will be cheapened by AI that will use algorithms to replicate their chord progressions, bass lines, even their lyrics. We'll never be able to tell if someone wrote a song with machine assistance and thus the value of art (and the human species as a whole) will be severely undercut.

When genetic perfection can be achieved in a lab, everyone will become perfect. That means no one will be special. Scientists can flip a switch and make humans that are happy 24/7, wholly independent of external stimuli. No more scientific progression for humans, let the robots do it. But why should the robots want to advance scientifically? The end goal of any organism is to reproduce. Blablablabla...

>>131944339
No. No, pretty sure AI will take all the jobs. What you just wrote is incoherent.

>>131937793
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha good one

You leftist Reddit tards that think you're going to have a UBI so you can pursue making music or art or whatever the fuck to create your hippy Renaissance are in denial. Automation will be the death of the bottom 95 percent. You will be begging for a liter of old jizz to fill your stomach while you die of malnutrition

>>131943109
>>131941600

>Their endgame

Basically, Peter Sellers explains this far better than I can

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybSzoLCCX-Y

>>131941978
yeah that book exists too. in it the doctor gets raped by a retard

>>131941103
no. If I have a billion dollars a 5 million doomsday shelter is called a hedge.
They do see the future eventually all rates will go negative. Broken interest rate market.
We've almost borrowed as much as we could from the future.
A debt clearing would destroy 401ks and cause a civil war. You dont fuck with peoples money so thats not happening.
I feel elites are in race towards the singularity. They will drag these zombie economies out another 15 years till we reach it.

UBI will collapse under its weight as does all communist fiscal policy. The rich will no longer have a need for you, anyways. Their robots will gather all of their energy and food resources for free. Their robots will build their mansions for them. Their robots will build expensive cars for them. There will be no need to keep you alive.

>>131941213

UBI is a universal gibs check to anyone able to breath. A stupid idea based on leftist doomsday scenarios and welfarist ideologies taken up to 11. No man is entitled to money merely for living, especially those who already have it in some manner.

As long as man lives, there will be some manner of jobs to do, and people willing to do them. Robots cannot and will not take everything, and the economy and demand for human workers will adapt with it.

The government should only provide a small cushion of welfare on a need-only basis. For the unemployed, temporarily, for the disabled, and for the elderly. That which is in between can be covered by private charity and local communities. It can either be a trimmed-down version of the present system, or perhaps even a VERY limited Negative Income Tax that replaces it.

>>131942262
you think swede cucks would(PI based in sweden)?
I wonder if they are redpilled, with EU games having cultural maluses for wrong culture.
In a 2017 game would they have a cultural malus on certain provinces in sweden?

>>131942060
>a billionare who can piss away money buys something cool
shocking.

>>131937316
This seems like one of the least sensible doomsday scenarios - I can understand biological / natural / nuclear disasters causing a sudden collapse, but automation seems too slow for society not to self-correct.

If politicians don't curtail the automation for fear of the collapse, where their heads would be one of the first to go, then the rioting populace would.

The benefits of automation are economic, which is nonexistant if it's reached the point where society collapses.

>>131945268
>What you just wrote is incoherent.
If you have poor reading comprehension, maybe.

If we have superintelligent AI that can do everything, why would we rely on them to do things for us, instead of enhancing ourselves to the point where we are as superintelligent as them and no longer need to use them? Adding extra layers of complexity results in extra failure modes. My point is, we will become the AI. And then we can do whatever we want.

You define your own meaning in life, you clown. Just because a machine can make better music than you, doesn't make the song you wrote any less legitimate. Right now, human musicians make better music than you; we don't even have to get into the issue of machines. Does that mean you're going to kill yourself because there is no point in living anymore?

>>131944572
>labor costs
irrelevant. Chinese people make all your shit for pennies an hour. Labor costs haven't been relevant in decades

>mcdonalds replaces all servers with kiosks
>burgers same price

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>>131946273
>If we have superintelligent AI that can do everything, why would we rely on them to do things for us, instead of enhancing ourselves to the point where we are as superintelligent as them and no longer need to use them?
That's the wrong question. You're talking about improving a failing model past a threshold that's impossible to breach. That is to say that there's diminishing returns for what you can make a human capable of and it would be much simpler just to switch to artificial humans with machine brains rather than meat brains.

If you want to call that AI human, go ahead. I never will.

Your meager intellect has lead you to misinterpret my point. No, I won't kill myself because I'm not one of the finest composers in the world--that would be silly. What I did say is that it will be hard to appreciate art when it's so easily replicated (you know, like supply and demand). I would have thought an autistic ancap could understand such simple concepts.

my favorite part is that there are people who think robots will replace the arts. clearly someone who's never played music before. if your life revolves around a screen you will clearly have no value in life so why not end it now? none of this end times garbage will happen from automation unless you're a lazy sack of shit.

>>131937316
>doomsday shelter
>thinking they can hide

>>131946291
true, the recoup the cost of the capital. But at the same time they may rise in the expectation to buy new burger flipping tech every 5 years.

DONT FALL FOR THE AUTOMATION JEW

WHEN THE ROBOTS TAKE OUR JOBS WE CAN JUST BREAK THE ROBOTS!!!!

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>>131940594
>higher
Dude it's hire.

>>131945268
Check out elecerendo
It's a OSS book, so it's free. Pretty cool. It gets a little chaotic at the end, but the first parts are spot on.

>>131946776
>If you want to call that AI human, go ahead. I never will
Up to you. It's the logical result of advancements in AI. Don't cry when everyone around you is an augmented "human" and you're still stuck with a meat brain, like some sort of caveman.

>it will be hard to appreciate art when it's so easily replicated (you know, like supply and demand)
Art is not appreciated simply because it is rare. People appreciate blank canvases, something you can buy for $20 at any art supply store.

Think about your favorite musical artist. How many pieces did they produce? How many are actually your favorites? Evidently you have no problems appreciating music despite an abundant supply of it.

>>131947205
Redpill the robots so they gas the bikes

Is that why a new Denver Airport was built replacing Stapleton, then the newly built airport was completely paved over, and a brand new airport was built on top of that, citing some BS excuse. Then, the new airport was filled with ultra-creepy doomsday artwork.

>thinking any of that shit will ever happen
>implying some politician wouldn't get into office who's entire platform is "I will basically make automation illegal and give you your jobs back"

>>131946818
Playing music is a piss-easy task for machines. Maybe you're talking about composing it? That side is still improving, but there is no magic fundamental limit that stops machines from matching or surpassing human musical talent.

>>131938862
define education

>>131947505
Won't matter. DNA editing and other bioengineering will allow you to choose all characteristics of your child. Literal eugenics.

Why did the Bush Family buy a million acres of land in Paraguay?

>>131947577
you mean like trump who hasnt done jack shit about it?

>>131939713
nevermind this post tells me more than enough wrt to your own level .edu

>>131938862
Bullshit. This is like any of the other hundreds of doomsday shit that never comes true. The rich seem to be particularly susceptible to horse shit like this so don't take them as an indication of anything.

>>131938862
>coding
>math
plz go

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>>131938862
>Anarchist
>Survey from Vice news

11/10

>>131941493
I don't know about the automation stuff. But I did read an article that billionaires are buying land in New Zealand because if shit goes down, that country is remote enough and self sufficient enough, that they could survive a global societal collapse.

>>131947722
I'm talking a decade or two( maybe three) when shit gets REALLY bad
Like full on luddite( against automation technology atleast) tier anti automation

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>>131937316
Smart folks. I would do the same if I had the cash.

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>>131947419
>Art is not appreciated simply because it is rare
It is, actually. It's called the contrast principle. It's why an artist like William Adolphe-Bouguereau would be called masterclass today but by the standards of his time he was merely "Meh, one of the better ones." Furthermore, it's a lot harder to appreciate the beauty of something that was created artificially by a soulless machine. Can you imagine people wearing T-shirts of their favourite melody-generator like they would their favourite band? It's silly and misses the point of art as human expression.

Listen, how much music there is now doesn't matter as very little of it is any good (and it's mostly created by human beings). When you have AI that's composing 1,000,000 Beethoven sonatas per minute, there's a real problem there for people who like to write music. Any retard could make pretty sounds with the click of a button.

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>>131938862
>Muh coding
>Can't post a fucking picture right
Nice job phone posting moron.

>>131940594
>automation
>helping small companies
Anyone who has even heard of Amazon knows the opposite is true. Automation helps massive companies to price small companies out of the market.

>>131948011
it won't happen anyway because these jokers are going to see most of their wealth disappear when the second bubble bursts. that'll be a real honest to god global depression.

>>131937316

stupid fucking libtards trying to burn it all down became trump became president. LE WORLD IS ENDING FUCK IT.

>>131941493
>>131947999

Here's the article:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/01/30/doomsday-prep-for-the-super-rich

>>131948656
Let's archive it
https://archive.is/VDLQ1

>>131945547
This. If I had the money, I'd build a doomsday shelter just in case myself.

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>>131947652
>everyone will be white in the future anyways

lol kikes and libshits btfo

>>131948704
Norwegian Archive bot I love you
You stop our enemy from procuring funds to print lies
You even though you are little more than code are making a difference in our fight

>>131937316
They'll just get mobbed and murdered by brown/black people.

Meanwhile, I'll be here in my all white community growing food and shitposting on postapocalyptic /pol/.

>>131944016
You're really not grasping the post.

White collar pencil pushing only requires software to write. It will happen fast.

Trade jobs also require massive hardware supplies for a nearly infinite amount of tasks. It will happen slow.

>>131937316
>buying doomsday shelters
people have been do this for 50+ of years now,

>>131938862
>He actually thinks that in the future every yahoo wont be able to code, because more user friendly languages will be made

Node based programming is the fist big step to this.

>>131947722
>5 months in office
>hasnt brought back jobs that were list over decades
fuckin drumpf amirite

Gotham shield, nyc/sf. The $ is bs. They know you are going to come for them in the millions. Zuckerberg needs a bigger wall

>>131937316
I CAN'T WAIT TO EAT THEM ALIVE!

>>131937316
>Basically they want to hide in a comfy bunker while the rest of us peons are left in the dust
Who is going to protect their assets?

>>131949477
why wouldn't people simply march into the factories smash the robots and grab the stuff they want if things get so bad?

>>131937316
>muh automation
Nothing will happen you idiots.
Real AI and automatization is expensive as HELL to create for even the most specific of purposes and will fail outside the specified boundaries. Humans, believe or not, are way cheaper and reliable for tasks that have not been already automatized during the last 20 years.

I know you guys crave for something to happen to put some excitement into your lives, but let me tell you that (((automatization of everything))) is just a fad.

>>131949862
>Real AI and automatization is expensive as HELL to create for even the most specific of purposes and will fail outside the specified boundaries. Humans, believe or not, are way cheaper and reliable for tasks that have not been already automatized during the last 20 years.

You're an idiot.

>>131937316
They will still die though, those bunkers wont save them

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>>131937316
>Let's do shit that we do not exactly understand for extra profit.
>Oh no, it's breaking up society!
>Fast, revamp those bunkers inb4 pleb will kill each other for scraps.
Modernity...

>>131949862
>Absolute retarded

>>131938862
I

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>>131950012
>>131950278
Nice arguments you virgins. We'll see who was right in 10 years.

>>131939765
The problem is that at some point in the future the human brain itself will be made obsolete by machines

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>>131937316
Lol no they don't, the only people concerned about automation are people who don't understand machines.

>>131949862
People are whiny as fuck and the cost of a human is always increasing because they demand more wage,rights,etc.

AI costs less and its capacity and intelligence is constantly increasing as technology improves.

What will happen when time approachs infinity? Mmmmmm

>>131942183
>>131944082
>>131944572
>>131944650
The long term trend is that the marginal costs to produce things will approximate zero. Combine this with a stable global human population and theoretically we could get enough goods to go around for everyone, for free.

In the very long term of course.

>>131950702
When Chile has AI micros (small insane city buses) then I'll be convinced. But, until a machine can out smart Chilean traffic - it's not intelligent.

>>131950647
/thread

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>>131951173
Thank u sir!

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>>131937793
UBI is propaganda meant to make you feel optimistic about the future. Normies won't see it coming.

>>131945369
Very underrated post

>>131944262
The one massive flaw in the study
>Us humans are not living under utopian conditions.

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>>131937316
>do a video saying that rich people are becoming preppers
>induce the need to buy prepper stuff on viewers
>????
>profit

Are you guys retarded? This is propaganda, pure and simple. Your belief on the rich buying bunkers and being paranoid is based on fake things said in an internet video. Probably it was financed by these prepper sellers. God damn /pol/ you are stupid.

Basically buy my prepper shit, super rich people are buying, why arent you? Buy, buy, buy

>>131950503

I'm right. You're wrong. Simple as that.

Automation is getting easier and cheaper every day. Every man and his dog has a CNC machine in his garage. Supposedly "complex" assembly tasks can be programmed by literally holding the hand of a robot and moving it to where it needs to be. Automated systems are less-and-less designed for single products.

Do you actually know a single thing about manufacturing?

>>131937316
the difference is they are (((non-threatening))) because they do it subversively instead of the masculine way ie Long John Silver.

>>131954157
You're talking about a specific subset of all jobs that exist.

People here are saying that automation will replace all jobs, including white-collar jobs. That's one massive fucking difference.

>>131938862
>There was a time where you could live on society's edge and not contribute to anything and have a (((decent living wage))) but that time has come to an end


what are you talking about faggot the Internet has made this easier than ever. You can get rich without even leaving your parent's basement if you're smart.

>>131955237
exactly. yes manufacturing and truck driving and taxi services will all eventually be automated. but an AI cant negotiate a business deal or sign a contract. it's definitely going to be a challenge, but society isnt going to collapse because of automation

>>131955237
>specific subset of all jobs that exist.

No. You're just expanding your nonsense to a set that covers all sets.

>>131955237
>People here are saying that automation will replace all jobs

No they aren't and it doesn't need to replace ALL jobs to cause problems.

>including white-collar jobs

Accountants.

You're also speculating that real AI is impossible or something.

>>131955612
>but an AI cant negotiate a business deal or sign a contract

Why? Business deals are highly algorithmic in nature.

>>131937316
They're buying bunkers because they're fucking bunkers and they're cool to have. It's like fucking horses or supercars - they don't need them, but they're neat.

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I always wanted a comfy doomsday shelter

>>131955715
Jesus, you are dense.

Yes, many people here are arguing that automation will indeed replace all jobs. See >>131939440, >>131940900, etc. It wouldn't need to replace all jobs to cause problems, true, but one thing is "problems" and other the job apocalypse some are rooting for, or it's counterpart, UBI for all.

>Accountants.
That's not the only white-collar job you fucking faggot. Here's a list of jobs with most expected growth for 2024 (https://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_table_104.htm)
personal care aides, registered nurses, home health aides, retail salespersons, nursing assistants, customer service representatives, cooks, janitors and cleaners, medical assistants, construction laborers, software developers.

And as for general AI (I guess this is what you're referring to with real), while not impossible, I believe we are very far from attaining it.

>>131957319
So have I. Fuck, I would have settled for a goddamn tree house.

>>131937316
>automation causes societal collapse

That makes automation pretty useless unless they create robots to buy their garbage.

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You have no clue how much a Billion dollars is in reality. You have to spend huge amounts in order not to get wealthier. Of course you buy a bunker, if you ever need it, its there. Same as me or you buying a smoke detector for our house. But that doesn't mean the world isn't going to end.

I just got a helicopter and soldiers on patrol captcha, been nice knowing you guys.

worrying about automation is so 2 months ago

the current fear is that everyone's wired up so bad and criminals/russia's finally figured out that you've essentially got a zero marginal cost nuclear bomb in ransomware that is covert and travels accross mediums like an infectious disease.

say goodbye to your banking system, your hospitals, your logistical networks, and your power grid. You can thank your political represenatives that vow to "return a cyberattack with even greater force", defense divisions that are 90% concerned with "offensive weaponry", and a tech industry that's seen if you're first out of the gate and can monopolize, you'll make a couple hundred billion dollars.

ransomware of course is what's been in the news lately, but it's the whole spectrum of infectious computer diseases :)

"robots" aren't the issue aswell; the hardware requires creation and moves too slow for an economy/workforce not to react.

software on the other hand can be deployed at such a rapid rate that you can't react and you'll shake the economy and pop existing bubbles.

another interesting thing will be how this affects housing markets. Most of the largest cities in America cater to a more global working professional class and then have a service class(?) that runs the city. What happens if you can essentially remove your need for that service class, or at least lessen the amount you need in total? The only thing I can forsee is a flight from the cities by the lower class, then what happens? Do rich foreign nationals then come in and purchase up all the real estate that now has lower value? Do more professionals move into the cities? Are those that rent-seek unable to meet their existing liabilities and default?

>>131948819
I'd hire PMCs and PIs to scout out these Doomsday shelters

>>131938862
I have a double major in Topology and Mechanical engineering, and the best job I've been able to get in the past 8 years is a shitty dead end job at kwik trip
you have no fucking idea how the American job market works. I have absolutely no prospects in live because I have no fucking connections, despite having a well-fleshed out education in STEM fields, despite having a 128 IQ, despite being more then qualified for many high end jobs the most I will ever get out of my education is being able to know what I'm talking about when shitposting on /sci/
fucking kill yourself brainlet.

>>131948372
Recently saw an article talking about amazon's need for employees for the business to function. It was funny to read because it was so absurd, as fucking if amazon would keep employees out of a sense of social duty. They're already heavily into automation, like every other big business, there's no reason why they wouldn't keep doing it when technology gets good and cheap enough.

>>131939971
At least you can eat horses. You can't eat cars.

>>131955612

only a portion needs to go to cause a collapse and restructuring. the great depression wasn't at 99% unemployment.

>>131944005
>expecting everyone is competent enough

What he was saying is that because most people are not competent, their future will be grimm.

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>>131937316
White people that migrated toward the north (Europe -vs- Africa) had to learn how to sustenance farm and build shelters to survive the Winters. Africans were content to graze upon a land where game flourished and almost every plant was edible.

To say that White men are not adverse to such a desperate environment would be a fallacy. Whites are built for uncertainty, by climate itself. So, talk shit and get hit by nukes, but only one race has prepared for this. We are acclimated. We will survive ANY climate change, because our brains have evolved to create, not imitate like a chimp.

>>131964955
I bet that's bullshit. You are really saying that the entire country of America has nothing better to offer? If you really put the effort into it you should have been able to find something better.

>>131937793
UBI IS "NIGGER VOTE PLANTATION V2 GET ALL THE LOSERS VOTES"

IE VOTE FOR US OR LOSE YOUR MONEY

>>131938862
People who can create art will be able to surive.

>>131967192
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbdQbyff_Sk

Keep telling yourself that...

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>>131942183

>>131953565
>more than enough food to not die of starvation
>no predators of any kind

conditions for humans are as ideal as nature allows

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>>131937316
>Implying we won't dig them out of their bunkers.

>>131942076
Detroit is still a shithole.

>>131938862
Try automating tile mofuckers!!! All I have to compete with is mi Mexican compadres

>>131967192
>Art

HAHA

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>>131967486
Calm down.
#WeAllBleedTheSame

>>131938862

Network engineering, I'll ride this out in a comfy, climate controlled data center

Enjoy fighting with sticks

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>>131937316
>setting up the world for a robot takeover
>this was the (((tribe)))'s plan all along

Reddest pill: Jews bow to the Decepticons

>>131945520
Kek what book?

>>131944650

Why is there "infinite" demand? There aren't infinite humans or an infinite amount of UBI.

>>131946291

How is it irrelevant? Also, you're arguing that burgers stay the same price when you were arguing they would increase. I'm the one saying they stay the same price.

yeah, at my farm i just replaced my (shitty) farm hand with an solar powered automatic cattle feeder, so another job has bitten the dust to automation. As an employer, i feel economic pressure to replace inefficient parts of my operation with automated tools to make it run smoothly.

>>131941213
>alternative
you just invest meme jobs like 4chan shill or youtube ad leecher or bitcoin miner.

>>131968984
Until they start using machines to grow synthetic meat in labs on a massive scale.

>>131943943
I'm also retarded

>>131943027
The irony is all the coding and math jobs will be automated, luckily I'm a businessman in sales which will never be automated

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>>131937316
>bunkers
It would be a public service if some autist posted the location of said bunkers. I really don't think these guys know how warlords work. Basically they are saying, come Silicon Valley or Redmond WA and loot the shit out of us.

tfw when military contracting survives the apocalypse.

>>131944262
This experiment is ridiculously flawed. The rats had no purpose. As long as people remain poor and are forced to fight/kill/work/hunt then they have purpose to live. Automation isn't going to make it rain food and wealth on everyone only a select few. Rats are not people: we have access to guns and can destroy each other. We can invent our own purpose.

>>131947999
And all of the pirates head to NZ for gibs. Sound plan.

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We can all breath the collective sigh of relief after we behead all these people.

I swear by my words that once the moment comes, it will be like a flash of light and whatever the situation is to get us all out of our placated state.

It will happen- heads will roll. We will be on top, our idiology will rise to the top.

We will make the entire 2000 year suffusing of the Jews seem like heaven when we are done with them.

>>131944748
>captcha still can't find all the cars in a picture
>curing cancer better than a board of phds

Nigga...

>>131948972
>postapocalyptic /pol/
The return of old usenet, or dare I say BBS?
t. old fag

>>131969818
>not shitposting over packet radio

>>131969468
this. we'll just have to start colonizing the moon.

>>131969342
Someone would have to think it's worth cutting through a significant amount of steel to get to whatever is in there for the bunker to not function as intended, assuming there aren't escape routes installed like there are on the presidential bunkers.

I don't think you guys realise how expensive automation is, Jews rather hire minimum wage beaners than high maintenance technology

>>131937793
kys

>>131969098
There was a thread on /trash/ recently about that, its already being done.

>>131970143
Not on a large enough and automated scale yet.

>>131970212
True that, can't wait to see the infrastructure be built and everything fully automated in 5-8 years

>>131970376
Not going to happen that quickly.

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>>131937316
>buying doomsday shelters
pfffft. Fucking amateurs.

>>131970549
They said the same thing about social networks and internet infrastructure when they first popped up

>>131970750
There's plenty of places that still haven't even experienced the industrial revolution yet, or even the Renaissance.

>>131937316
Montana's coal plants power Silicon Valley and half of California.

>>131937793
Negative Income Tax is better

>>131971074
True, but I mean in areas that have.
Particularly countries with a small labor market, like how Norway has completely automated their docks.
On the flip side though, this may lead to cities being less inter-dependent on rural areas, leading to a deeper divide.

Why do you guys care anyways?
You're all uneducated, poor and stupid.
You are poor, you will remain poor and if you have children they will be poor.

>>131937316

yeah. so let's give them a tax break.

/pol/

>>131937316
bwahaha fuck yes
they know it will happen
THERE IS HOPE YET

>>131937316
They invest in their bunkers, I'll invest in a blow torch to get into it

>>131937316
Looks like the unwashed have to sabotage their escape plans. If everyone's going down, they're going to take the elites with them.

There are people who are working on these secret projects that are considering sabotaging said doomsday shelters and cause it to fail, either burying or suffocating the occupant(s) within. Some have even planted poison gas, making said doomsday shelters like some kind of twisted Schrodinger's box, but whoever opens it will find that the inhabitant(s) would be dead 100% of the time. Oh, and irradiation. They might live through the "apocalypse", but they'll either be sterile or too genetically damaged to sire normal children--either way, they "end".

There is no escape for the elites.

>>131971459
>Norway has completely automated their docks.
people seem to think automation is a once and done thing. it's not. those docks might work 80% of the time, but the 20% of the time that they fuck up will cost billions.

>>131938322
requires a tyrannical government that none of us could escape.

>>131970019
We have time. And anything that well protected must be worth effort. Of course, there is no indication that these guys are building NORAD. Most of the doors I have seen are in the 4-6 inch steel range. Often double doors with an airlock.

These nerds don't know anything about the workin' man, rednecks, or mexicans. They will rig up oxyacetylene and/or plasma cutters, steel cutting saws, and breach these doors in short order. Most likely, the "miners" will be accompanied by a war band of vets with now decades of combat experience.

>>131970005
Perhaps the return of numbers stations.

>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>83912 83912
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>10080 10080
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>46543 46543
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>257 257
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>143 143
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>00000

>>131969818
>The return of old usenet, or dare I say BBS?
that is my fetish

New Zealanders will be glad to take their money, and always respect a rich pozzed out twerp profiteer who sold out the rest of the world and now wants to hide in his hidey-hole.

>>131938862
>survey by vice news

Heh nice try kiddo

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>>131973901
>his country isnt a doomsday shelter

>>131937316

Why don't we just kill these people? I mean we know who they are and they exist out in the open they don't have secret service levels of protection

Why not just kill them

>>131970733
wouldn't the mountain fall on him and crush him?

>>131974612
Not with 3 dimensions, burger.

>>131974540
because murder is illegal.

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>>131974714
>posts 2d image
>get called out on it
>"bb-b-b-but muh secret 3rd dimesnsion HURR DURR xD"

kill yourself, medpack.

>>131974725

But by killing these faggots you're literally saving the world, you're a super hero beating a super villian

>>131974813
>2d image
You want a 3d model depicting a tunnel to understand, burger?

>>131974855
but Bezos is a good guy. Just because you're butthurt about being stupid and unsuccessful doesn't mean he's bad. There have always been titans in every industry ever. That's capitalism.

If you keep killing everyone at the top, you end up with a bunch of retards eating dirt wondering where all the overnight shipping went.

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>>131974813
Psshht!! WHO THE FUCK TOLD BURGER ABOUT THE SICRIT 3RD DIMENSIONS!! NOOO! IS SICRIT!!!

>>131975322

They're evil they're going to kill millions

>>131975630
do those millions include me?

>>131975653
you use 4chan, so yes.

>>131975796
why would they target 4chan users?

>>131947999
>Bunkers in NZ
If there's anything Burger/pol operatives have learned about the secretive tribe of the Kiwis its:
a. they never build ANYTHING leaky
b. kiwis can't dig worth a shit
It's like the 'white men can't jump' kind of thing. Also they are very pro-elitist.

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>>131937316
>It's either that or they're selling our personal data to the highest bidder.

Its the biggest issue of oure time.

>hack ur parlament and publish their browser history

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>>131938862

>vice news

>>131943943
i'd build a secret underground bunker hidden off of a modest house hidden on 100 acres of woodland.

like john malcovich in RED.

everyone's gonna after that castle fort.

>>131957319
needs a shower.
clearly doesn't have enough food stored.

>>131937316
>Be (((((Bloomberg)))))
>Decide to attempt to flood the very same country that gives my land and people power and without it means I'm just a vulnerable rat
>Do it
>Hide in my doomsday bunker while shit hits the fan.
>White race is finally killed
>All smiles.jpeg
>3 weeks later
>Civilization collapses because no one is working now
>Oy vey.
>The wealth I have acquired over time of my life now has no power because every single country that has given me power is now flooded with shitskins and nogs that do not work.
>This makes me a target now.
>Hear that Japan is the only place left that has a heaven like life
>They could save iseral!!!
>Go to japan in attempt to negotiate a (((((Deal))))) with them to save greater Iseral
>They decline and say fuck off we are full in Japanese
>*Cavtech internally*
>Try to guilt trip the Japanese into letting me in
>They point thier guns at me ready to blow me to smithereens if I attempt to try again
>Scurry away
>Watch as my homeland is destroyed as my people are killed because the white goyim are extinct and thus are no longer there to protect my people.
>Peaceful migrants capture me
>My last thought before they behead me are aleast I'll be able to be with my g*d now since we are his chosen people!!!
>Turns out god is pissed at my people for destroying his creations and the world and thus sends me to hell for my crimes.
>Go to hell
>Burn forever.

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>>131957319
>doomsday shelter
>watching tv, browsing the webs, ...
What kind of weakass doomsday is this???

It's like a me.xican stand-off. What they do depends on their options. What's viable?

Best case scanario is that they invest heavily but then find out there's really no place to hide which can be defended by loyal people, because there are no people loyal to an unethic and disloyal person.

Once they realise this they will see the need to face the public will and not work directly against the public good.

It's interesting how they seemed to move into a seeming over-drive in pushing their agendas lately. Almost like they're late or behind. I don't think things are going strictly according to plan.

We need to think more about a C.O.T. plans (continuity of Trump-wave) for when he's gone.

>>131943821
Everyone but me gotta learn your a loon. They do care that's why they advovate universal basic income

>>131938862
>People without education, like 87% of the monthly visitors of this board (survey by vice news)
O i am laffing

>>131938862
Everyone but me gotta learn. Mathers and coders are literal parasites. We don't need them

>>131955351
Only the dumb can do that

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>>131974813
DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW?

>>131941493
He gave you 3 and you still cried

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>>131938862
Ive already switched to law enforcement and so should you

>>131937316

There is literally no reason that you can't build your own shelter, stockpile food and water, and learn survival skills.

If shit hits the rafters the thing that kills you won't be the collapse, it will be your own goddamn laziness.

>>131941978
That will destroy jobs

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>>131939765
https://youtu.be/WSKi8HfcxEk?list=PLZTWY0N5DB1yrKUU3I8ujWNffBvvFBs0J

https://youtu.be/7Pq-S557XQU?list=PLZTWY0N5DB1yrKUU3I8ujWNffBvvFBs0J

I would be a little bit more worried if I were you.

>>131937316
Every gazillionaire since the 1950's have been buying doomsday shelters. The hysteria inherent in the op indicates either a female or a nu-male. Get a grip.

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>>131978386
D..did you just black my fucking tunnel, burger???

> technology will create poverty
Never happening. Been predicted forever.

>>131937316
Allah, now all the hipsters will try to be preppers.

>>131976386
epic pic

>>131937316
>Back in the 1940s. 50s, and 60s it seemed like the tech and STEM people were trying to build society up, trying to send people to the moon, etc. Now their goal is to just destroy and loot the system of it's wealth and hide away in a bunker while society goes to shit.

LOL at anyone who believed technology and science is here to improve and build society up. How dumb are you? It's only here to give even more power to the ones who finance it and to get rid of human slaves and replace them with robot ones. Science and tech is the new religion - a bunch of psychopaths wanting to play God.

>>131975394
How could we even dig a straight tunnel if the earth is round?
Get rekt round-earth-conspirateurs.

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>>131979191

>>131937793
>region implements Universal Basic Income
>every unemployable crackhead, bum and hippie from surrounding regions, whether city, state or nation floods region with UBI
> region implementing Universal Basic Income collapses under strain

good plan

>>131947746
You are uneducated

>>131944016
Sure

>>131944730
Everyone but me gotta learn that's a myth

>>131943171
No one does that for recreation

>>131979123
Idiot

>>131978527
Learn to not be paranoid

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>>131949666
>666

KIWIBROS MOST OF THE BUNKERS ARE NEAR WANAKA IF THE WORST HAPPENS WE MEET UP THERE, EAT THE RICH AND LIVE LIKE KINGS

>>131969342
they're all in NZ

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>>131937316
>societal collapse
race war when?

>>131937316
>Tech Billionaires are buying doomsday shelters because they think automation is going to cause a societal collapse.
No, they are just afraid of the people that buy their stock

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>>131937793
>>universal basic income
So we become new age serfs. Wonderful way to make sure no one ever speaks out against our government overlords when they can withdrawal our income.

>>131940594
you're retarded. a person who can do your 3d model, texture and rig is going to pretty expensive if you want all of these components to have a high level of sophistication. there are higher chances this person will go to a aaa company because they can pay his wage, unlike many indie startups

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>>131937316
and they buy gold because they are certain the economy is going to totally collapse...

and the US stockpiles nuclear missiles because we will use them...

I'm sure you won't get it

Thats hilarious. Techies ruin world, try to hide from it. Expected behavior by these faggots.

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>>131938862

>>131937316
Billionaires buy stuff. They buy bunkers because they have already bought everything they need.

>>131945680
It's not so stupid if we liquidate all of our non discretionary spending into UBI. But the thing is leftists will not want to phase it out, they'll try to hold on to it as long as possible eventually discriminating people who need it less until it's no longer a universal basic income but an exclusive basic income.

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>>131947291
>higher
>Dude it's hire.

Correcting someones spelling on a message board with thread limits is pretty autistic and clearly shows you are from faggit. If everyone did that, threads would die at an even faster rate. Do everyone a favor, either lurk more and kill yourself.

>>131944650
The worlds pop is not infinate.

>>131946291
Maccies is not going to reduce prices because they've reduced costs. They will however get increased profits.