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21 states refusing to provide voter data to Trump election panel

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21 states refusing to provide voter data to Trump election panel

At least 21 states are pushing back or outright refusing to comply with the Trump administration’s request for voter registration data.

The Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity, formed by President Trump to investigate his widely debunked claim that millions of illegal votes cost him the popular vote in the 2016 presidential election, sent letters this week to the 50 secretaries of state across the country requesting information about voters.

http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/340289-19-states-refusing-to-provide-voter-data-to-trump-panel
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>>131933800
Always archive
https://archive.is/x42Dw
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>>131933800
what are they hiding?
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If it's widely debunked, why not just had over the info to prove trump wrong
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>>131933800
Oh boy

Surely they are not guilty at all right....
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>>131934051
everybody in California pretty much knows that there's mass voter fraud in this state. Fair elections are a thing of the past.
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>>131933800
>widely debunked
>you sure about that? mind if I check the dat-
>WIDELY DEBUNKED
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>>131933800
Just exclude these states from the next election.
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>>131934563
Fair elections were a myth in the first place. Election fraud in the United States is as old as the United States.
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>>131934574
>THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED DRUMPF
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Oddly enough, this man was investigating voter fraud in Florida, and ended up dead on the beach.

This is one of the most important issues threatening our democracy. Anyone refusing to cooperate should be jailed.
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>>131933857
It will be like this with everything sensitive to their methods. They'll make themselves look shady, but lord knows if leftists will see it.
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>>131933857
The truth voter fraud exists. And how it exists mainly.
>>131935131
Yup as bribery or extortion can be considered fraud. Obama basically bribed americans on public television with his whole free taco bullshit.
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Voting is a local government authority; Feds can fuck off.
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>>131937180
not if they allow illegitimate votes
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>>131937180
Local governments have run amok. Thats what happens when you elect populist leaders in your democratic autocracy trash state. The result is activist judges, senators and congressmen who are enemies to the republic. Hiding the truth of said crimes only further incriminates you. Minorities are the new southern rednecks impeding progress. We will never move onto fixing our healthcare system or income equality until the illegal problem and people who harbor them are sedated. You want a civil war? Be my guest it will only speed up progress.
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>>131937655
>Thanks for your full name
>address
>social
>party affiliation
And
>VOTING HISTORY!

>Just expanding my data analytics operation m8s, nothing to see here.

Kleptocracy in action.
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>>131933832
Thank you friend
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>>131938389
>south were bad guys

Kys uneducated nigger
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>>131938389
you'll cry
>state's rights
on every other issue, I bet...
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>>131938518
Great argument. Let's not do anything because if we do Kushner might profit.

The derangement is strong with this one.
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>>131938518
fine, if you don't want to give up the information then we can just pass a federal law requiring ID to vote
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>>131933832
White and based.
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>>131933832
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>>131938735
Learn your history. A splintered united states is a weak united states. Succession puts us under europes thumb. Just as illegals divide natives now.
>>131938782
True. The illegals need to be dealt with however. Join or die we must not let them have their way.
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There are no studies for voter fraud except for these:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/17/no-voter-fraud-isnt-myth-10-cases-where-its-all-to/
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Bump, this needs more discussion
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>>131937180
You don't get to claim states rights now, you motherfuckers. How long have liberals been using the federal government to oversee elections? How many federal laws have you passed governing how southern states do their elections because muh racism? How many campaign finance laws have you pushed for?

The FBI has jurisdiction over voter fraud claims. Don't like it? Take it to the Republican controlled Supreme Court and find out what happens.
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>>131938861
Fine, as long as the federal government provides a free photo ID for every citizen.
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>>131937180

If non-citizens are voting that is voter fraud. Chances are they're voting under someone else's name. Obviously, liberal states aren't going to investigate themselves. It's a federal election and therefore a federal matter.
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>>131939278
does anyone actually have a problem with this?
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>>131938831
>>131938861
When there's any actual evidence of widespread voter fraud other than the anecdotes of some bumpkins, I'll be happy to consider a policy proposal.

My privacy rights are not a lower priority due to your fake news. Still have the law on my side.
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>>131935131
Benjamin Harrison won tbe 1888 election through outright fraud. If you think it's common now just imagine how bad it was in the age before the private ballot and ability to really enforce voter laws.
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>>131939409
so you withhold evidence of possible voter fraud because there is no proof of voter fraud

that's a catch 22
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>>131937180
>a state refusing to allow the federal government to verify the integrity of a process that affects the commander-in-chief of the 49 other states is totally based and in the spirit of state sovereignty

fuck off
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>>131939362
I don't see how they can use "Muh black granny can't get to the DMV to get her I.D" defence, she's got 4 years to get there now.
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>>131939260
You're assuming a lot about me. I'm just following the laws and protecting myself.
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>>131939409
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/did-votes-by-noncitizens-cost-trump-the-2016-popular-vote-sure-looks-that-way/

study cited:
http://www.justfactsdaily.com/substantial-numbers-of-non-citizens-vote-illegally-in-u-s-elections/

corroborates previous studies:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261379414000973
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>>131933800
>widely debunked claim
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>>131939601
Please answer this >>131939515
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>>131939515
Get a court order, or piss off.
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>>131939769
enjoy protecting your precious illegal immigrants
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>>131933832
>25 secs
this is a bot prove me wrong
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>>131939350
Yup just as these liberal statesmen harbor illegals criminal or otherwise. They will do anything to stay in power including defying the federal government.
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>>131939769
It's coming, want to bet on the outcome?
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>>131939409
>I'll help you guys investigate voter fraud when you show me some evidence of voter fraud

wow are you a cop?
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>>131939769

So... the party that just wants to "investigate" the President refuses to comply with a Federal investigation.

Cute.
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>>131940000
d i g i t s
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>>131939409

Here you go:
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/harvard-study-yes-illegals-help-get-democrats-elected

The source is that bastion of right wing radicalism, Harvard.
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>Civil War 2
>It's another "Republicans take away slaves from Democrats" episode
>Different color this time tho
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>>131939515
>>131939585
You don't need my voting history to accomplish this review. Feds always trying to extend their reach. Bullshit.
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>>131939710
>>131940209
Not interested in your spam sites.
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>>131940343
It's a secret ballot, it doesn't show who you voted for.
It just shows if someone voted in your name.

It's essentially an audit of the organisations that run and maintain both paper and electronic ballot systems and their records.

How can you establish voter fraud if you can't check if, for example, George C. Smith of 1492 Pennsylvania Ave is registered to vote in two or three or four different counties?
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>>131940296
Exactly. And this we will deport these slaves back to mexico behind a big beautiful wall.
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>>131934563
Well but then you have Ohio and Ole Miss and Arizona that went for Trump also refusing and I suppose I'm also fairly confused as to why they of all states are refusing to hand over their data.
Like you would think the obvious thing for every state (save for Cali) to do is just hand over their data to destroy the myth (Red and Blue states alike)
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>>131933800
Am I correct in assuming at least 80% of these states voted for Hillary?
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>>131939998
don't worry, its /ourbot/
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>>131939998
Ok, what else is there to do in Norway besides browse /pol/ and archive?
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>>131940641
>POST EVIDENCE
>OKAY BUT NOT THAT EVIDENCE
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>>131939260
The irony of someone with a Confederate flag decrying states' rights. Ha.
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>>131940693
Audits are racist, just like being forced to show ID to vote
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>>131940693
The feds are asking for a lot more than that m8; this is an unconstitutional overreach.
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>>131937180
>a paper piece of paper is more important than the well being of good, honest, huwite Americans.
Oathcucks can burn in hell.
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>>131939362
The people who would have to herd niggers to go get one.
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>>131933800
>>131933857
>>131934051
This will be easy to spin, especially with many thinking Russia interfered with the election.
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>>131941047
like most of what Trump does, he asks for more than he knows he can get

see the travel ban. Trump will get the evidence he needs
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>>131940693
>>131941014
You obviously don't know what you're talking about since they are asking for address, voter history, and who they voted for
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>>131941083
>Trump's administration is asking for complete lists of voting for the 2016 election
>21 states refuse to comply the Trump Administration's request
>TRUMP IS TRYING TO HIDE EVERYTHING LIKE THE FACT THAT RUSSIA HACKES THE ELECTION
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>>131933832
Based Norge

By the way, is California on that list?
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>>131940641
Here is a direct link to the Harvard study.

https://cces.gov.harvard.edu/news/announcing-2014-cooperative-congressional-election-study
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>>131933800
>Election Integrity, formed by President Trump to investigate his widely debunked claim that millions of illegal votes cost him the popular vote in the 2016 presidential election
if it's debunked then why are almost half of states refusing to release the evidence? my almonds are going quantum
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>>131941303
Is a frogs butt water tight?
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>>131940922
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>>131941266
They are not asking for who you voted for, numbnuts. Those things aren't even possible to trace, because your ballot is given to you after you check off from being on the rolls as registered. I worked as a vote watcher
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>>131941343
wrong
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>>131941301
I mean turn it on Liberals and say if nothing needs to be investigated, then Russia had no hand in the election.
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>>131941343
Thanks. I'll check it out.
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>>131941590
Typical bootlicker ready to give out his information because daddy Trump said so
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spics and dems BTFO
EAT SHIT NIGLETS
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>>131941053
>a-at least I still have the constitution
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>>131941941
nigger
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>>131939475
>If you think it's common now just imagine how bad it was in the age before the private ballot
lots of people were coerced to bring their paper voting slip to their Union rep to prove they voted for who they were told
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>>131938518
Not everyone has a party affiliation and just because someone may have voted for Trump does not mean they are a republican. I am a democrat and voted for him because the communist progressives have taken hostage of my party for example. It's not a us vs them thing as the media is desperately trying to have you believe.
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>>131942126
Cuck
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>>131941941
no you just dont want your illegal vote farm shut down.
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>>131933800
>there is no voter fraud
>there is no voter fraud
>there is no voter fraud
have you ever checked though?
>no, but there is no voter fraud
well can WE check then?
>OMG NO NO NO
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>>131941343
>This is the preliminary release of the 2016 CCES Common Content Dataset...This first release includes only the data and the questionnaires for the survey. Subsequent releases will include a full guide for the dataset and vote validation for the cases.

>Subsequent releases will include...vote validation for the cases.

Did the fake news sight try to convince you there was some conclusive evidence here? Maybe recheck how they phrased their assertions/speculations.
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>>131940296
This.
States like CA are the new southern slave states. Their economies are based on cheap illegal immigrant labor. Then the poor taxpayers get duped into providing welfare, education, health care for the illegal workforce.
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>>131933800
>IT'S COMPLETELY DEBUNKED
>YOU DON'T NEED TO SEE THE DATA, JUST TRUST US
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>>131942382
There is no evidence of voter fraud. I don't even know what institution Trump got the figure 3 to 5 million illegal votes. Probably the University of Straight-Out-of My-Fat-Ass
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>>131941266
this is a lie. they are not asking who you voted for.
piece of shit ignorant liar
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>>131942828
Then what's wrong with the states sharing the data?

If their was no fraud, wouldn't they want to?
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>>131942828
>There is no evidence of voter fraud.

Except from Russia.
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Truth has nothing to fear.
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>>131940343
Hey see below you moron
>>131940693

>>131941047
fucking shareblue i swear to god. if you're ever actually voted in your damn life you'd know there isn't a single god damn thing on that form to trace back to you. they literally just take your voter id card at the front and you go to a station that has a ballot already there and fill it out. feds are totally justified in this.
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>>131943249
Got your law degree from Trump U, eh?
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>>131941266
fucking shill
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Should probably just ask the NSA
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>>131943461
still in your mummys basement are you? bet your bitch ass isn't even registered to vote.
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>>131933857
jew know our own government rigs elections they have since forever
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>>131943554
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>>131940641
>http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261379414000973
lel
that damn clickbait fakenews site, elsevier
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>>131941941
>Have to use some type of ID to do most things
>Some states don't even require a simple drivers license that the state gave you
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>>131937180

Just like they follow that second amendment, huh?
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>>131939278

it's already free in almost every place, or it's like $5-10 max.

if they got $20 for crack, they got $10 to get an ID
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>>131933800
>his widely debunked claim
Oh, in that case it must be like that.

Nevermind the fact that when actual recounts were done they always showed fraud in Hillary's favor.
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>>131933800
>debunked
>no investigation allowed

Pick one.
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>the government should be clear and transparent
uh no sweety this is not your little republic fantasy.
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>>131944282
this

fuck drumpf and fuck white people
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Another study showing fraud:

https://publicinterestlegal.org/blog/report-ineligible-aliens-registering-vote-casting-ballots/

“An investigation in Virginia by the Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF) and the Virginia Voter’s Alliance (VVA) shows that the cause of this problem is something much worse than simple ineffective governance. Worse still, Virginia state election officials are obstructing access to public records that reveal the extent to which non-citizens are participating in our elections. These obstructionist tactics have led to PILF and VVA obtaining data from only a handful of Virginia counties so far. But the information from a few counties demonstrates a massive problem.

In our small sample of just eight Virginia counties who responded to our public inspection requests, we found 1046 aliens who registered to vote illegally.

The problem is most certainly exponentially worse because we have no data regarding aliens on the registration rolls for the other 125 Virginia localities. Even in this small sample, when the voting history of this small sample of alien registrants is examined, nearly 200 verified ballots were cast before they were removed from the rolls. Each one of them is likely a felony.”
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>>131933800
^did you know?^

nancy Pelosi and her rancid infected hole we call the "DEMOCRATS"^

are evil?...and stupid?
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>>131933800
>RUSSIA INTERFERED WITH THE ELECTIONS
>Okay we got a Election integrity to analyse the vote data for this to prove it
>WE WONT GIVE IT TO YOU BECAUSE YOU'LL USE IT TO SUPRESS VOTES!!!!

????
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>>131943923
>1 out of 3 sites listed that I commented on.
Also, I'm not complaining about Elsevier. Can you tell me who funded that study though?
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>>131943014
Because they are forcibly including us in this experiment of theirs against our free will based on a lunatics baseless accusation
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>>131942127
Unions are fucking cancer
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>>131944703
>>131933800

I like when you dumbfuck...please dumbfuck more...
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>>131933800
Clearly the data was hacked by the Russians and is therefore inadmissible.
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>>131933857
The official in my state that refused the order saw the issue was that once the voter info was collected it would be made publicly available. This could potentially include home addresses and social security numbers. He didn't want people being liable to identity theft over petty politics.
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>>131944855
^please be a bleeding vagina more^

^you bleed out of your girl hole well^
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>>131933800
If they're so sure voter fraud didn't change the outcome, why aren't they complying? This proves Trump right.
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>>131945117

That doesn't make sense. Where in the investigation does it state that it's going to dox everyone who voted?

Completely made up.
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>>131938518

You think this matters when NSA/DHS already has all the dirt and numbers on you they could ever want from packets pulled off Internet wire and reassembled for internal hueristic searching pleasure.
>address oh look it's on your tax record

>social are you truly this retarded

>party who gives a fuck

>voting history well duh it's a voter fraud issue remember MUH RUSSIA

Dear lord please rid us of stupid leftists SOON.
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States' Rights, bitches.
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>>131945326
in America...we allowed nearly 30million undocumented dumbfucks to vote...

and TRUMP wins,.,.,.now go be a liberal dumbfuck that thinks Hillary won...stupid fuck
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>>131945564
Not interested in bowing.
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>>131945605
states rights are important only when convenient
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>>131945605

>states' rights only matter when my side wants to hide something

As an independent this really sours my view of the DNC. Republicans just want to fuck everyone over and enrich themselves, but shit like this makes them look like the lesser evil.
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>>131945117
Voter registry information is already public.
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>>131945605
But keep giving us federal money ;-)
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>>131946088
>>131946135
And apparently state's rights _don't_ matter in _certain_ cases for these "principled conservatives" here.
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>>131938518
I get it, you're part of the cheating crown and you're scraeed. Just come clean and sell out some higher up and you'll be fine, although unlikely to be allowed to vote in the future... but that didn't stop you from cheating in the past has it?
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>>131946088
Constitution says that states run elections. Trump has no legal basis whatsofuckingever to demand voting records.

So, to repeat: States' rights, bitches!
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>>131940641
17 posts

holy shit you are desperate
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>>131946477
they do run elections but they have to follow federal rules in federal elections
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>>131946236
^thinks mommy will forgive her^

^sometimes is the dumbest fuck in the room^
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>>131946452
>trying this hard
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First reply to this post with digits determines Trump's popular vote victory margin.
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>>131946477
>All the states and politicians will look up and shout "Let the Feds investigate our elections" and Trump will look down and whisper "No."
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>>131946390

>Dems shit on states' rights for 100 years
>suddenly they claim that states' rights matter

It's too late for that. You've already destroyed the American experiment by using the Federal government to chip away at the power of the states for a century. It's not going to save you now.
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>>131946561
just getting inb4
>1 post by this id
>SHILL!

Can't win since the goalposts keep moving.
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>>131942828
over 200 reports have been filed in response to complaints coming from all across the nation. by your logic the paramedics should never respond to a 911 call because it's just a claim and there's no evidence anybody has been injured yet. you're a worthless retard, get a real job if you want to be taken seriously.

>$0.02 have been added to your account
kys, faggot.
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>>131939278
I'd be more than happy to see tax dollars go to this.
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>>131933800
the more they struggle the closer we get to voter ID.

keep killing yourselves you stupid libshits.
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>>131946758
>>131946765
^reach around each other for pleasure^

^are gay and suc dic only for pleasure^
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>>131946477
except it explicitly says who can vote in a presidential election.
like how you have to be 18 years or older and a US citizen but keep trolling
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>>131945117
That is bullshit but that info is already publicly available, to criminals.
SC Daily spam list and River City media spam list leaked out and exposed the data, including phone numbers and addresses of dozens of millions of people.
Worst part is the operations basically continue because we still don't know how they got the information and people to this day have fresh phone numbers and addresses paired with their identity in these lists, indicating government databases are compromised already.
I'm sure this info isn't used to farm socials for the massive identity theft industry illegals perpetuate though.
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>>131947152
^you have to be older than a lil girl that sux dic^
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>>131947147
was doggo ok?
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>>131947467
nothing edgy about terrorists getting a dose of freedoms
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>>131947467
did I get to edgey?

I almost give a fuck...
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>>131947331
can confirm. i used to farm id for cigarette money in high school. it's easy to get and the government takes zero precautions to protect people who's id has been stolen. you could sell 2000 ss numbers for like $40 back then, it was a shit job.
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>>131947555
yes..you lil girl..doggo lived...evil died...because AMERICA SAID SO
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>>131933832
Norway you are the anti-Turk.
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>>131947147
reminds me of this webm
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>>131947467
>>131947555
^your concern for the dog = my own concern^
then you sound like a dumbfuck that needs to die w/the dog...are you a stupid liberal dog-dic sucking faggot...or are you a republican?^

^just askin'^
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>>131933800
Trump won the popular vote. Hand over the data.
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>It's been debunked
>No we don't want the information revealed

Choose one.
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>>131948774
>>131948611
^I like when dumbfucks like you type...it makes retarded people feel intelligent..^
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Dead people voting in Colorado
http://archive.is/mQCls
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Dead people voting in Chicago
http://archive.is/z9BZO
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>>131933800
21 Holy shit, how bad did Hillary cheat?
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>>131948550
Honestly? If I gotta be labeled?
Classical liberal.

My morals and faith guide me to have deep concern for all creatures great and small, but I accept the reality that life feeds on life, and that we all must do our duty.

That's the honest, no -LARPing truth.

Pic-related is my hero.
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>>131949305

You don't know what the word patriot means.

Please come back once you're 18.
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Dead people voting in California
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2016/11/07/only-on-2-nearly-280-votes-cast-in-2016-primary-by-people-who-are-dead/
http://archive.is/7ZsIC
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>>131933857

Nothing.

Why do you want the Feds to breathe down the necks of local electors?
>>
Dead people voting in Dallas...
and it goes on...and on...
http://archive.is/QHqoO
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>>131934574
What data???
Every time I ask for proof of widespread voter fraud, you Trumpanzees remain oddly silent.
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>>131949624
when you type...all I hear is.."my vagina is over-worn and stinky"

"my hole is used and old"

then you think you said something relevant...you did'nt
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>>131948550
That dog was clearly more valuable than the mudshits who got blown up
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>>131934832
>exclude half of the union and over half of the population from making policy decisions
Taxation without representation is what started our revolutionary war in the first place, Berthold
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Enough of this bullshit, crush these cucks Mr. Trump!

The white man needs to take his country back from these fucking traitors, hiding their illegal voters from the law. Disgusting scum.
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>>131933800
Trump planning to send people to the reeducation camps?
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Trump needs to force this probe
I Get the feeling, if he does, we are going to see the biggest Liberal BTFO since the Election.
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>>131950079
^your mom's hole is clearly more of a hole worth giving a fuck about^
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I'm a Democrat and I support this whole thing. We need to know once and for all if Russia hacked the election, and this is how we do it.

No democrat should oppose this effort because surely it will blow up in Trump's face
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I dont really mind if the fed got their hand on the information, as long as theyre held accountable to keep the information safe and confidential. And of course the reporters could be given the information regarding any voter fraud it found. That should be enough. We all know illegals are voting, and the dems shot themselves in the foot by claiming russian politics changed votes, when in reality its the influence even the united states uses on them when possible. They talk as though putin had some russian spy changing votes, when in reality their liberal gaylord policies create much more voter fraud. Get fucked dems.
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>>131950534
when you type...I grip my penis hard...then I understand you suc Hillary a lot...and I get depressed...
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>>131950320
friendly fire m80
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>>131950833
suc on liberal dic elsewhere...
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>>
debunk is another fucked up word now.

we can play this game too. global warming is debunked! why? because someone said so! it is debunked! you shut up! DEBUNKED! DEBUNKED! DEBUNKED!
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>>131950965
Nigger I've beaten libshits at free speech rallies fuck off.
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>>131949379
Denver here: I didn't think I could be more upset with the cuckoldry which has descended upon the Centennial State, but there it is.
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>>131950006
You don't need data for common sense. The registration process is unchecked and they don't check ID at the booth.

People use fake identities for low stakes products and services (alcohol, tobacco, welfare). You'd have to be pants on head retarded to think that campaign strategists wouldn't be bussing people around on BOTH SIDES of the isle. But, we know what side immigrants and illegals will favor. Those people vote. It's easy as shit. Why not?
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Are they all blue?
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>>131933800
This was clearly not a serious attempt to do an investigation. He basically asked if he could publish everyone's private information and everyone said no. Now he's going to claim the big bad states just didn't cooperate so now he can't do his investigation and find the 5 million illegals that Trump claimed voted. They all know that was bullshit and they're not going to make a real effort. This is just a show.
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>>131951679
>risk a felony charge and make it easier to get yourself deported in order to cast 1 vote
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>>131933800
Womp womp
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>>131933800
Jokes on them, every County will provide the voter roll for a nominal fee. If anons worked together, we could get the voter registration data on a County by county basis and just mail that data to Trump team.

t. former political intern who spent hours waiting in county elections offices to get voter rolls
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>>131952071

They already risk a felony charge being here illegally to begin with, what's your point?
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>>131933800
As is their right. The constitution confers the states the right to electoral independence.
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you don't think people would be pissed if they found out elections are a scam?
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>>131952780

So? They should be.
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>>131952359
https://elections.co.kern.ca.us/Elections/forms/APP_TO_PURCHASE_VOTER_INFO-KERN.pdf

there is the application for my home county. It's 45 dollars. It would be no major task to apply to each county individually as anons. If the state won't hand over the entire list of registered voters, then the complete list could be made from each county obtained by people not known to be associated with Trump. While the state may deny the entire list to the administration, each county won't deny their list to persons identifying themselves as students or researchers.

I know trump people lurk here. Run this up the flagpole seriously.
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>>131952921

Or just get in contact with the walklist people.

They already have all this info in DBs.
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>>131952838
and that's why they want to keep it covered up
so they can keep their power
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>>131952480
There is no incentive for these immigrants to further incriminate or further expose themselves... for what again? To cast a vote for someone? Sure, m8. How could you not recognize this basic flaw in the argument presented by the administration?
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>>131940743
I guarentee some fuckery went on in Arizona related to the local elections. My state's election officials are corrupt as hell.
The Dems are the worst tho. The whole Democratic primary was pretty much rigged to ensure Bernie fans weren't showing up.
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>>131941651
Oops my bad
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>>131947836
That dog is cool.
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>>131953115

>There is no incentive for these immigrants to further incriminate or further expose themselves... for what again?

I'll clue you in to how it goes in the real world.

You give them $20. You say vote for this bitch, each time you do it I give you $20. You give them the fake news about how Trump is going to exterminate all mexicans, makes it easy. If they still refuse, you tell them you will call la migra if they don't, because nobody is going to believe an illegal beaner over someone connected to a political campaign.
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wOw! I wonder what they could be hiding?
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>>131952561

If they have nothing to hide, they have nothing to fear :^)
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>>131953115
"Hey Jose, vote for this cunt or Trump will cut your dick off, throw you across the border and fuck your wife. If you don't vote, I know a guy at ICE."

Do you even live in the real world my dude?
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>>131952561
We just need to make sure they aren't discriminating against anyone. Yeah that's the ticket. We just need to check the records to make sure there's no racism in there. Totally cool, right?
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>>131953057

Fun fact: My dad got dropped from doing walklists for dems after he was continually removing people who showed up on obits.
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>>131953478
Ah, of course. Tell me more about how this vast conspiracy works. So the volunteer staffers are risking their own felony charges as well then. And you say "retarded libruhls" are pulling all of this off without detection, outsmarting Republican as well as Democratic elections officials? How long had this been going on exactly?
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>>131953729 see
>>131954090
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>>131937180
It's a federal election, faggot.
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>>131954090

Ask Scott Foval.
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>>131939278
In Arizona a state ID cost $12 and is valid for 12 years. Once you hit 65 it's free. A lifetime of ID renewal in the state would cost you $48 total and a couple hours of your time every 12 years.
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>>131954235
We obviously had different Con-law texts
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>>131933800
We want the data!!!
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>>131954090
>>131954239

I should mention, I don't know much about republican antics. I haven't been connected to that side of the aisle.
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>>131935131
this desu
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>>131954516
I've argued with people about this before. They constantly were telling me that even the time needed to go and get an ID is too much for people and said that they themselves were too poor to afford that $12.
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>>131950006
Check my past 4 posts for a start
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>>131945605
>Is a Federal Election
>SOMEHOW state's rights
Fucking Europoors
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>>131940743
there are corrupt as fuck Democratic power centers even in red states.
I'm sure Arizona has fucking massive illegal voters
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>>131945605
bitch please, as if any of you liberal cucks advocate for state rights.
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>>131954847
Generally speaking voter suppression/intimidation and gerrymandering is much easier, and far more rewarding than in-person voter fraud.
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>>131933832
Thank you Nor-man. You are the only person on 4chan who is not a faggot.
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>>131940867
Its not /our anything. Its a bot pushing advertizing. CNN first posting every thread to remind us to go to them for the real story? Get fuck outta here with this bullshit.
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>>131955560

Correct.

But you have to understand, "sanctuary cities" are literally using illegals as a bastard form of gerrymandering on the federal elections.
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>>131955587
>>131938600
>>131938897
>>131939039
>>131941303
>>131948190
Fuck off you bot advertising supporting prices of shit. Fuck that data mining site. Fuck this nigger that won't stop spamming ads. >>131933832
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>>131933800
>We will not participate in this systematic effort to suppress the vote. -Tom Wolf

How does ensuring there is no fraud in anyway related to voter suppression?
Every single one of these people is obviously guilty of fraud.
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>>131933800
>implying they have a choice
Have all the traitors who would interfere with the operation of the country executed and their families (immediate and extended) imprisoned in labor camps. Stop being such pussies.
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>>131955810
>(R) House, Senate, White House, Conservative majority SCOTUS

Fuck me, right?

Thanks for the bantz, m8.
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>>131951679
>He basically asked if he could publish everyone's private information

Sauce.

I already know the answer faggot so you can go on ahead own up to your bullshit lie.
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>>131941941
They already have all the same data from tax returns, drivers licenses, nsa ECT. They are just receive it again in a different form. Wtf is the problem here besides contrarianism?
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>>131956830
It didn't help that they chose perhaps the absolute worst woman in America to run on the Dem ticket.
There are some things even copious amounts of money can't cure.
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>>131956830

You don't seem to realize how many people voted against party lines this election.

I know quite a few lifelong Dems that couldn't stomach voting for Hillary.
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>>131942828
>you have no evidence there was voter fraud so stop investigating for evidence for voter fraud
>yes of course russia hacked the election there are investigations thats evidence enough, never mind there arent any investigations

hue hue
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>>131956503
>Every single one of these people is obviously guilty of fraud.
These are the same people who claimed when we were concerned about NSA spying on citizens, they said "if you're not guilty of anything you have nothing to worry about". The same logic doesn't apply to them. Liberals hate the truth because it exposes who they are. Just like all the libs get pissed about Drudge report. Drudge doesn't write the stories he just links them. Read the comments sometime. Being exposed is what pisses them off.
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>>131939409
Voter logs are public record. How do you think all those PACs get you voter information to send you a bunch of garbage emails? This is just libs crying because le Drumpf is asking for it.
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>>131933800
ITT: a lot of cucks

secret ballot is one of the lynchpins of of our democracy

let's not collect everyone' name, ssn, and party affiliation into one file please.
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>>131957343
Just look at how hard they shill on here, gotta be mentally unstable to go around shit posting this hard, who the fuck spends their Friday night doing that shit?
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>>131957577
>let's not collect everyone' name, ssn, and party affiliation into one file please.

All of this information except the social security numbers are already public knowledge.

Even then, they only requested the last four digits.
>>
If there wasn't any fraud, you'd think California would be foaming at the mouth to be all like "AHAHAHA DRUMPFYPOO LOOK WE ARE SQUEAKY FUCKING CLEAN AND YOU ARE A DELUDED MORON AS ALWAYS!" And yet here they are, not doing that.
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>>131957179
>>131957192
I completely agree and I do understand the dynamics of 2016 completely. I've never been #withHer. I am not a fan of Trump, but I get it.

It's not personal, I'm not a team kinda guy. I have definite concerns with federal overreach and I'm not keen on what I see as a kleptocracy in full view. I guess I'm old-school in what I expect out of the social contract, and in what leadership looks like.
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>>131957989
Instead through mental gymnastics it means voter suppression, holy shit that instills confidence.
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>>131957577
>secret ballot

lmao. I can go on any state website and see how you're registered my dude. They aren't looking for who they voted for, they're seeing who illegally voted.
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>>131958251
OK, tell me how i'm registered.
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>>131957262
just trying to have a conversation,
nu/pol/. Piss off if you don't anything of value to contribute.
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>>131941941
What information does the government not already get from my income tax filings?
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>>131958326
You're delusional.

>>131958410
Speak for yourself faggot.
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>>131957577

Your raza is show.

That's not how secret ballots work. WHO voted can be separated from HOW an individual voted.

Lastly, we don't have a democracy. The US is a Constitutional Republic, as are the States that are its constituency.
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>>131939998
>implying anyone would be pissed at a bot doing God's work.
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>>131958092

>I guess I'm old-school in what I expect out of the social contract

Honestly compromise and truth are dying concepts. It stopped being about making things better and started being about controlling people when I was young (it began before that, but it became quite obvious to me in the late 90s/early 00s).

Serious dem candidates are just formulaic amalgams of Goebbels and Alinsky. You can tell what they're doing by what they accuse their opponent of, it's all telegraphed.
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>>131958640
>Lastly, we don't have a democracy.
Semantics nigger. You are obviously black.
When i enlisted i raised my right hand and specifically swore an oath to defend democracy.

>>131958608
>You're delusional.
Not an argument.

>>131957966
[citation needed]
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>>131958949

>truth

Trust*.

I'm not letting truth die.
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>>131957577
Do you pay income tax?
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>>131959039
Eat a whole bag of dicks faggot.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/metabrown/2015/12/28/voter-data-whats-public-whats-private/#587213581591
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>>131933857
The "Hillary actually won"-lie.
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>>131956130
Are you losing shekels?
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>>131959039
>the details of the civic foundations of our nation
>semantics

Fucking kill yourself
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>>131958949
This.

They hate Trump for stealing their ideas straight out of Rules for Radicals.
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>>131959568

They get really angry when you use their playbook against them. It's similar to when you use jew wordplay against jews.
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>>131959457
Fucking Denmark even gets it, kys.
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>>131944855
>Sir your neighbour reported to watching you stab someone to death last night, we need to search your premises, and you're under arrest.
>UH BUT LIKE, YOU GOT ANY EVIDENCE I GOT MUH RITES N SHIET

You're asking for the evidence that you're actively withholding you retard.
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>>131959039
Where you at faggot? Get back here and face your bullshit lie!
See:
>>131959289
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>>131933800
huh. you would think they would be eager to prove the crazy meany pants president wrong.

there's no way they could possibly have something to hide, right?
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>>131956130
No shekels for you today.
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>>131958949
>>131959098
Truth is under siege big league right now, and the threat is not always apparent. Think critically.

For everything else you mentioned, press F to pay respects to a bygone era.
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>>131959289
>>131959829
>social security number
guess you're the one telling the bullshit lie.

>>131959457
i actually waived my constitution rights when i joined and served, all to protect these faggots' democracy so they can tell me to kill myself.

can't wait for the day to come when the cucks are outed, yoked, and roped up.
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>>131960118
F

I'm amazed by the amount of "hate speech" prosecution across Europe lately.
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>>131960278
>>social security number
>guess you're the one telling the bullshit lie.

>>131957966
>All of this information except the social security numbers are already public knowledge.

Eat a whole bag of dicks you stupid stoned faggot..
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>>131937180
>your local government may be intentionally lax in enforcing voter authenticity in the election to determine the president of both our local governments

No and goodbye.
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>>131959735
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>>131933800
>nearly all the states are either Democrat-run or cuckservative-run

Hmmm what a coincidence? Perhaps there was some fraud during the primaries they don't want us to know about.
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>>131942127
"The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair had a whole section on being bussed around to vote multiple times

>Inb4 Marxist cancer
Read it, it's not that bad
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>>131962524
Wasn't The Jungle written as a pro-socialist tract?
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Is winning not enough for Trump?
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>>131936408
It makes no sense to fight a simple probe into voter fraud. The dems always fight any sort of verification because they are obviously criminals.
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>>131933857
20D chutes and ladders: They look guilty by hiding information or they say there was no election fraud (making the whole Russia thing look even crazier). People will also start to wonder about the system.
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>>131962524
>It's not that bad
Yeah, up until the end when it turns in to a socialist manifesto. It's actually a great book until it starts going on and on about the "greatness" of socialism and how socialism can solve all of the peoples problems. The book doesn't even have a real resolution. The main character just buys into the socialist bullshit and fades out of the story as it becomes more propaganda than a commentary and expose on the real problems that were going on.
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>suddenly kikes screaming about state's rights

like clockwew
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>>131941053
>Oathcucks can burn in hell.
oathcucks don't even think that piece of paper is all that special

the organizations officially came out against the constitution because of the alt-correct
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>>131933857
Probably Dem voter fraud
>illegals voting
>duplicate ballots
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>>131955421
They mostly don't even know when fucking election day is. It's the libshit kids / 3rd-gen spics

t. Scottsdale
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>>131933800
oy vey, the sides of the civil war are taking shape
take notice
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