Is "burger education" a myth?

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the only three words I need to know are U, S and A!

>>131925874
Kurwa mać how i wish for a sign like that
I'm fairly certain motherfuckers would jail me if i put one of those on my gate here.

>>131926090
i dont think bad spelling is punishable

>>131925874
What's weird about that one?

>>131925874
No, the education system here is abysmal. But those are nice signs.

>>131926324
i bet he meant
>on sight

>>131926433
Nothing odd about that. Site means a particular place or location. Or to put it another way, "Trespassers will be shot on premises." Which isn't grammatically wrong or anything.

>>131925874
So there's nothing behind that gate worth dying for, but it's worth killing for? Republicunts sure are master of cognitive dissonance.

>ON SITE
Technically not wrong, they will get shot if they are on the site of this private property.

>>131926770
>>131927367
i guess you guys know better
yet, i find this hard to believe

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>>131925874
Depends on your definition of intelligence really. 95% of people here can't find Poland on a map or name out first 5 presidents but they can build shit like pic related.

>>131927716
how does it turn

>>131927716
*our...dammit.

>>131927218
>PLEASE TAKE MY THINGS, NIGGERS!

>>131925911
A holler is a term for a wooded valley... it's basically slang, I guess... it's definitely a white rural thing, mainly along the southern reaches of the Appalachians

>>131927218
>assuming trespassers only steal

Cuck

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>>131927798
I have no idea, but building ridiculous vehicles from junk parts is pretty common in the south. You have to be kind of smart to build shit like this but I doubt most of them could spell "engineer".

>>131927218
Uh... killing people is fun? Dying isn't.

>>131927798
If there's no steering linkage then it pretty much has to be skid steer. Although it's possible they kept that neat system you find on tractors where there are separate left and right brakes so you can force all the drive power to one side or the other.

>>131928017
uhm
>dieing

>>131925911
Dumb Ass doesn't know it's spelled, "Hollar".

It should be legal to shoot trespassers if your land is fenced and posted. It's not though, even in uncucked states with castle doctrine laws.

>>131928625
I seem to recall that Texas as some relatively decent laws in that regard.

>>131928552
I might be an uppity northerner but it's obviously an adaptation of hollow, which in white people slang would be holler. Hollar looks black. Do you look black too? Just curious.

>>131928625
It should be legal.

>>131928751
It's Hollar. Trust me, uppity Yankee.
I've never heard any connection to Hollow, so to an uppity yankee it might make sense, but around these parts, that don't.

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>>131928625
Actually in North Carolina you can shoot people for trespassing. They actually just passed a law where you no longer need a concealed carry permit either.

>>131925874
Basically.
The school system is broken.
We don't really teach necessary skills.

>>131928956
Well that's how dumb you are, you didn't know a wooded valley is a hollow.

>>131928721
Trespassing is a really minor crime in every state. They have to try to come into your house to shoot them. And that's assuming you live somewhere uncucked.

>>131928956
It's holler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_3DDVKMTE0

t. Appalachian

>>131929029
No offense there neighbor, but I don't believe you.

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>>131928751
A buddy of mine's 145 year old cabin in the Hollar. It's pitch fucking, can't see your hands, black as midnight after the sun goes down.

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>>131928625
Are you sure? I want to move to Idaho because I've lived in a nanny state all my life. Can't I just shoot all the coons stepping on my property there?

>>131929354
I stand fully corrected.

>>131927690
what the fuck do you find hard to believe

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>>131929288
Your beliefs are irrelevant, buddy.

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>>131926066
HAHAHAHAHA

>>131929532
Was talking about the trespassing part. Open carry isn't unique to North Carolina.

>>131929128
Maybe 1,000 miles from here it's called that, but in these mountains, it's a Hollar.
I think your dialect, customs & traditions are dumb, but I don't fault anyone for the way things are in that area. Around here, we do things different than you, and I'm Ok with that.

>>131927798
I don't think the engine is capable of producing the kind of torque required to move that thing, but it could turn like a tank does.

>>131929288
I know in my state they have to try to break in to my house. I forget the ins and outs of Texas law, but I've heard of cases under which you can fire on somebody for doing something or other even on a neighbor's property.

Realistically, I don't really want to open fire on anybody. I probably would be unlikely to consider it until somebody broke in to my house anyway, so as long as Castle Doctrine stays it's not really high on my list of things to complain about.

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>>131929354
For giggles he put this on his property.

>>131929368
I've lived in Idaho, if your english is good you'll be fine. Just don't dress or act gay, and if some good old boys mess with you, bitch about immigrants ruining your country. You'll be drinking beers in no time.
Oh yeah, the beer, you're going to have to get used to that. Just look for something cheap that doesn't give you the shits in large quantities. Coors Light is my choice for cheap beer, and I like some of the mexican imports for expensive beer.

>>131929776
I lived out in the country many years ago. If your land is fenced, STAY THE FUCK OUT signs are posted, your closest neighbor is a mile away, and someone is wandering your property then that fucker is looking for trouble and needs to be put in the ground.

Living in the burbs or a city is a slightly different story. There I think waiting until they break in (or try to) is reasonable.

>>131927690
It's really more intelligent to word it that way. "Shot on sight" could be spun by a (((lawyer))) as "angry redneck shoots anything that enters his or her eye-line" whereas "Shot on site" means deadly force will only be used to defend the property from actual trespassers.

>>131928625
>be kid playing in woods having fun
>get shot by a fudd for trespassing

>>131928152

>jacked up truck.
>still has the same ground clearance.

Burgers.

>>131930139
Good logic leaf.

>>131925874
Fucking dank ass signs.
Thx for the design idea!

>>131925874
I think for it to be a myth there needs to be at least somebody who actually thinks it sorta exists

>>131929638
I was just taking the piss buddy. Country folks around here call creeks cricks, and coyotes is said ky-oats.

>>131930139
that makes sense

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>>131929354
These chairs will start rocking on their own, with zero wind in the Hollar. Legend has it two kids were killed when they fell into the hog pen on this property. You hear kids laughing down there all the time, when there isn't s child to be found for miles. It's spooky.

>>131925874
Oh no, it is fucking as real as shit

I spent a great deal of time educating Americans on early US history vis-a-vis the native treaty debacle.

You have the left and right

the left = total fucking pol burgers
the right = too intelligent to even give a fuck and don't correct the morons

I went to a US college and can tell you that the USA operates on extremes of intelligence/ignorance.

Those who have parents at home with a brain don't learn shit in school, they learn at home

Those with shit parents are fucking dullards that put fire crackers in their ass cracks

>>131925874
>>131925911
There is literally nothing wrong with these signs.
In fact, it should go without saying or posting anything.

>>131930098
>Just don't dress or act gay
Check
>bitch about immigrants ruining your country
I already do
>Oh yeah, the beer, you're going to have to get used to that
Pls explain. I'm really into the bitter stuff. Is that going to be a problem?

rednecks in america are irish and scottish in origin mostly, it figures they would more hot tempered, violent and stupid

>>131930306
>imma shoot you for trespassing, hurrrr
>im big man, durrrrrr
>i got gun
Never change, murica.

>>131930104
Yeah, for my personal moral disposition, if there's a clear fence or fence equivalent and clear signs, I think that's pretty fair game for getting shot at.

>>131930518
t.Muhammad

>>131925911
I'm willing to bet it's pretty damn effective at keeping people out

>>131930545
>Takes Arab cock in Anus

>>131930501
It's piss water here. Some crafts are good, blue moon has a nice flavor. Generally tho, American beer is weak and watered down.

>>131930472
i was referring to the words themselves mr rothbard

>>131928751
Plenty of white, southern pronunciation overlaps with black "ebonics" - its often one in the same. One is fetishized by liberals, the other is dismissed as "ignorant."

>>131930518
The real american rednecks are actually fur traders that mixed with natives and live mostly off the land

Cajuns for example...name comes From Acadians...people that were living in the Canadian Maritime provinces and were sent on a death march to the southern states like Louisiana that used to be part of the French Empire during the <geant au pied d'argile> era...the brits actually cut the French territory and isolated French/Native canadian hybrids in the Southern American States

>>131930761
>takes multiple choice test
>still fails

>>131930384

how much does an acre in the spooky woods cost

>>131927716
>>131927798
>>131928152
That tractor tire Honda is from an old Canadian TV show called "the red green show" pretty damn funny and it's before Canada became cuckland. Was released on DVD it's hard to find copies of it outside Canada but you CAN find it on piratebay last I heard if you're comfortable screwing around with that shit

>>131930501
There's a couple dank-ass thick beers to be found, but most of the gas stations and smaller grocery stores don't carry them. I've seen Sapporo in bars, and most bars will have Guinness. There are a lot of microbreweries around, and if you live near a medium size town you shouldn't have any problems finding a good beer you like.

>>131931068
your soul

>>131929638
Shut up flaggot.

>>131927218
So we should just let people take our stuff?

>>131929354
Looks comfy as fuck

>>131930170
Fantastic example, Mr. Lipschitz.

>>131930501
As soon as you get settled in buy a case of natural light and drink it exclusively until you like it. Because if you can drink that you can drink anything

>T. Busch light drinker

>>131928625
My dad always told me if you ever shoot someone in the yard drag his ass inside the house

>>131929532
Wait didnt you just say concealed?

>>131931364
You know there would be bloody drag marks right? Don't do that

>>131927716
I can't name the first 5 presidents. That's not a reflection of my intelligence. It's irrelevant information to me, so I just forgot it. No reason to revisit 4th grade social studies info.

I can point out Poland though. And after a few years of flags on /pol/ I can identify just about any flag, too.

>>131930848
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>>131931304
I tried Budweiser once. It's like Bitburger with a spoon of sugar and some tap water. It's going to be interesting though trying out American beer. Do you guys have Carlsberg by any chance?

>>131930571
Killing is always wrong tho

>>131930909
This is because of public education, which inherently leads to reduced quality.

Look back at 18th and 17th century literature. It was much more advanced and the words were almost always spelled correctly.
This is because education was completely privatized back then and therefore was a superior good.
As it exists now, 95% of students in the US go to public schools, which inherently is an inferior product.

If you want to increased the spelling proficiency of the literate portion of the population, simply end public education. The literate would become excellent spellers again owing to the greater quality of private education.

>>131925874
>thinking you can kill someone for walking on your lawn
This faggot should be arrested for threats

>>131931480
Well it was a joke about retarded laws not serious advice

>>131931597
Murder is wrong. I object to taking a life in general, but killing is not always wrong.

And you'd have to differentiate getting shot from getting shot dead, which always leads to a sadly dicey argument based on potential legal ramification rather than moral correctness.

>>131931587
I'm sure if you looked hard enough you could find anything you wanted. Land of opportunity Deutschbro

>>131931587
>It's like Bitburger with a spoon of sugar and some tap water
Damn. Like Bitburger isn't already bad enough.

>>131925874
Of course its not a myth. I learned like ever1else about the 6 gorillion and best ally!
I even learned about some non-country called Poland that got invaded and lost.

>>131930098
>mexican imports for expensive beer.

1. You have to go back.
2. Mexican beer expensive? Is Applebees fine dining to you?

>>131930247
Wow, all trucks have 28" of ground clearance in eurabia?

>>131931858
is beer drinking really that important? potato farmer here, don't touch alcohol or tobacco and try to mind my own business best i can but would like to emigrate in the future

>>131931587
Yeah I don't know how Budweiser manages to be so popular. You almost have to go out of your way to find something that's significantly worse.

But like the other guy said unless you're in the middle of nowhere you should be able to find something halfway decent. A lot more people care about beer that doesn't suck than in decades past.

>>131929029
Thats some real dakka right there.

>>131932136
Alcohol is a huge part of American culture. You rarely meet someone who doesn't drink. Unless you live in Utah

>>131930411
Every list I checked Brazil is ranked lower than the United States in terms of education.

http://www.edudemic.com/learning-curve-report-education/

http://worldtop20.org/worldbesteducationsystem?gclid=Cj0KEQjw7dfKBRCdkKrvmfKtyeoBEiQAch0egVtBwyscXS1Vw6DSWdOlnjZ3sgbmbsHH2beBzukVgloaAmkH8P8HAQ

https://fairreporters.net/world/the-best-education-systems-in-the-world-in-2015/

>>131927218
private property is always a thing worth killing for,a rusty nail or saint graal? no difference ,you touch it you die.

>>131925911
>dieing
That's cute, but I'd still stay the fuck away.

>>131929122

lived in suburb of nations capital, top 5 richest counties in the country. Crazy education budget.

>learn about Mesopotamia and ancient Egypt
>learn mitochondria is powerhouse of the cell
>learn how to write in cursive
>never learn how to properly cook, clean, sew, manage money, doing taxes, doctor's appointments, insurance, basic auto repair and maintenance, how to read a contract, modern countries and history, and basically anything that an adult needs to know to function properly as an adult.


burger education is real, even in rich yuppie area.

>>131932136
Drinking beer is a huge (maybe the biggest) part of German culture.

>>131932306
Among low IQ people yes, but most intelligent people I know in grad school either drink lightly or don't drink at all.

I don't know a single intelligent person that gets wasted.

>>131932306
That being said, it's not uncommon to know somebody who's been through AA or whatever. It never struck me as though not drinking would be a social impediment beyond being increasingly out of touch with the crowd mentality if people start all getting sloshed.

>>131932377
Why didn't you parents teach you that shit?

>>131925874
Pretty sure it would be illegal if they were shot off-site.

>>131932465
I'm from rural Ohio so I have a rural Ohioans perspective on the US. Even the geniuses around here black out once a month

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The only things that matter are family, tradition, freedom, liberty and responsibility.

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>>131932493
>not drinking would be a social impediment

Nah unless you're hanging out with complete idiots no one would shittalk you for not drinking. Just be aware they'd definitely try to get you drinking though.

>>131932465
I work at a university and there's plenty of drinking, although of course not at undergrad frat house drinking. Although visitors from Europe do seem to drink more like getting good and buzzed is expected part of the visit, which is fun.

>>131932606
they taught me most of what I need, dont know about cars because dad doesn't. learning from an uncle right now.
most kids in my area are latchkey kids and both parents work as govt contractors. All they do is eat snacks and watch tv, bring friends over and act like niggers, fuck, or play vidya.

>>131932606
They figured we were learning the basics of it in school like they did and would ask them if we needed help. That's no excuse, it's just what I think happened in many such cases. Sad!

>>131932325
Yet I keep schooling Americans on stuid shit they should know.

The problem with the figures is that if you dilute general education VS private school education in a population of 200+ million, you don't get the actual figures of rich vs poor education.

Brazil is fucked up in that the poor get sub par education and the rich and upper middle class get an education superior to your regular american high school.

American education used to be fantastic....but it currently is pretty fucking retarded. Home schooled kids in the US do much better than those who go the public school route.

Not saying Americans are retarded but most public schools in the USA are really weak.

I can't tell you how many times a regular burger fails to have the most basic knowledge when it comes to math, geography, history and general science.

>>131933206
100% the truth.
I knew kids who never had a talk about sex with their parents and never learned about it in school because of time constraints.
had a kid think the urethra and uterus were the same thing.

>>131930247
The purpose of jacking up a truck is to allow greater suspension travel.
Spend some time on /o/

>>131932853
Wait I thought this was to the European. I'm drunk now btw

>>131932606
I had really good parents, but strangely I wound up teaching myself most of that stuff. Maybe they didn't because I'd beat them to it?

It really is a glaring omission from schools, though. I actually had to teach a lot of my friends in college some of those things, and we're not talking dumb people at a dumb school.

>>131932638
>understand near the bottom
kek
That should be on top. Creating something without understanding it is aimless, leftist hippie shit. Understanding comes AFTER evaluation and analysis.

>>131932853
i don't fault them for that, i'm fine with other people doing whatever they want with their bodies but i simply can't do it for personal reasons

>>131932867
Most university students are average IQ or slightly above average.
I specifically mentioned "intelligent grad school students" as the population.
Average IQ of grad school ranges from 110-120 depending on the major, so intelligent relative to this would be slightly above these numbers.

>>131931587
Carlsberg and Elephant are fairly common in liquor stores though generally not in restaurants.

>>131933538
That's not how pyramids work, anon.

>>131925874
public yes. private no

>>131932377

>Never learn how to properly cook
Define properly
>Never learn how to clean
Are you fucking retarded?
>Never learn how to sew
Arts and crafts? Never?
>Never learn how to manage money
Only legit argument
>Never learn how to do taxes
There's very clear instructions on every form
>Never learn how to make a doctors appointment
How is this different than any other appointment?
>Never learn how to insurance
How is this different than any other service?
>Never learn basic auto repair
No shop class?
>Never learn how to read a contract
You never learned to read?
>Modern history and culture
Ever turn on the news?
>Basically anything else than an adult needs to function properly
It starts with not blaming everyone else for being a fucking idiot.

>>131928625

yes, it is absolutely legal in most states.

>>131933675
Depending on where you go in the US, people might assume you're Mormon or in some hippie cult if you don't drink, but it's no big deal.

>>131925874
>nitpick deep south trailer trash redneck images
You sure showed me how intelligent my country is.

>>131927716
>95% of people here can't find Poland on a map
It's the same in Poland, too

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>>131925874
I wish

>>131934266
In the context of this thread I see/saw it as a hierarchy, with the more "admirable" mental exercises on top.
>"Anyone can remember or understand something, it takes a true genius to create!"

>>131930501
>german
>believes he knows half a shit about beer
your pisswater is just that; kraut
pisswater

>>131930098
or don't drink coors lite and go to a fucking liquor store where they carry plenty of shit, there's good stuff made in the northern rockies

>>131934927

In San Diego.

Can confirm German beer is piss water.

Except Marzen hopped Oktoberfest and schwarzbeir. That shit is fucking dank.

>>131925911
>>131925874
you should take it up with the owner. go walk up, bang on the door, and calmly explain your quarrel

>>131934555
that doesn't sound so bad, will it help if i wear a funny hat? no probably not

on an unrelated note what is your opinion, if you have one, of alaska?

>>131928625
people in here saying you have to be in your house, not true, you just need to be in imminent fear of death or great bodily injury

>>131935286
>german beer
>shit

try again budlight buddy

>>131928956
shut up kentucky faggot, it's a hollow in TN

>>131925911
>>131925874


that works for me, I will go somewhere else thank you.

>>131934358
>There's very clear instructions on every form
Clear and exhaustive. Some overall understanding of the process would be helpful to a first-timer tackling this stuff.
Of course, if the US were a proper First World country and not just a blood-sucking flea market for little bitches, the IRS would simply file a pro forma tax return for you, send you a bill, and you could pay the bill or optionally file an amendment or not without some corporate middleman in the way.

>>131934927
Buddy, you eat snails. Your opinion means shit.

>>131927716
Poland is right next to England

George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, and Ulysses S. Grant

>>131935677
I went to berlin and the beer there reminded me of budlight, it was shit, especially after coming from Belgium

>>131933412
I don't know if that's worse than my very liberal mother having the talk with me when I was 5 or 6 because I was really into zoology/paleontology and as a result encountering the fact that everything that has ever lived has been trying to smash in one way or another. Kinda ruined the sense of discovery in adolescence though

>>131935677

Perhaps you missed the part about San Diego, faggot.

Stone Brewery just opened up a location around you, apparently Spaten is in trouble.

>>131934358
never learned to cook
dangers of an oil fire vs regular one, how to prepare food, dont cut different meats on the same cutting board without sanitizing, etc.
there is no mandatory cooking course. home ec covered how to sew and cook but they were 6 month units taken in middle school.
never learned to clean
how to properly sanitize and organize. not something school should have to teach you and should be something you learn on your own but I knew too many kids who weren't dumb but were never taught.

>Never learn how to sew
if you mean construction paper and silly scissors in kindergarten, then yes. otherwise there was no formal education on this topic. knew a person who didnt know how to sew a button back onto a pair of pants

>Never learn how to do taxes
Fair point.
>Never learn how to make a doctors appointment
no difference from any kind of appointment or insurance or whatever. Fair point.
>Never learn basic auto repair
No shop class. it was offered at our school but again, not mandatory.
>Never learn how to read a contract
Never taught by education system how to critically read.
I learned from my dad.
>Modern history and culture
News is fine if it's unbiased. you forget we're talking about the US. Faux news and CNN is considered real news. nobody ever tells you there's other sources of news media. I know the difference, I know people that do not.
>Basically anything else than an adult needs to function properly


Like I said, formal education in the US doesn't teach these things. I know many of these things, but not because of my education.

>>131935875

>Clear and exhaustive

Stopped reading. You clearly are incapable of functioning in society. It's no one's fault but your own, and possibly your parents for raising a fucking idiot.

>>131935561
Right, well we're just saying it seems sensible to be able to shoot on your own property given fair warning without being constrained by the usual requirements for imminent injury or whatever else normally required.

>>131935465
No, you just say you don't drink. Unless your with a sophomoric party type crowd that's about the end of it. Maybe some friendly jibing depending on the situation.

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>>131925874
No. Public education here is fucking terrible. They even force that crap on the private schools. Stay far, far away from U.S. state education.

>>131925874
Lawyer here, the posting is very stupid; however, it likely stems from the backroads of Kentucky. In no jurisdiction of the US may you use more than "reasonable force to prevent trespass or harm to property", with an absolute bar on the use of deadly force, unless you are doing so in self-defense or defense of others. In fact, even in cases of self-defense you may ONLY use enough force to proportionally stop the immediate threat. This means you can only shoot if they have a gun or knife and are coming at you. A similar standard applies for defense of others, but that is judge from a reasonable belief standard. Finally, in MANY jurisdictions you have a duty to retreat, unless you are actually inside of your home, and even then some jurisdictions find that you must exhaust all other options before killing. Before you go gun happy, know that you'll probably go to jail.

>>131936012
law doesn't allow that because ancient common law provides for the right of necessary trespass, where if you have to trespass to save your life you can, you just need to pay for any damages to the property you create.

If we let people shoot trespassers on sight this would be defeated.

>>131926066
>Says words.
>Proceeds to spell the letters.
>The correct way to say this would be "The only three letters..."

Fucking hell burger.

>>131925874
>>131925911

While the typos are complete unintentional, more than likely, they still make people reread the sign several times when they catch them or feel like they caught them. I'd imagine that makes them a bit more effective.

Thinking on it, I think I'm going to misspell a random word on any signs I really want people reading from now on.

>>131934358
>Define properly cook
Putting tendies in the microwave does not qualify. Knowing how to read a recipe and the processes called out in a recipe.
>Arts and crafts? Never?
These things have been defunded in many schools.
>How is this different than any other service?
See below on contracts.
>No shop class?
Not mandatory, but it really should be.
>You never learned to read?
Contracts are specialized legal documents that do not use plain-language definitions of terms.
>Ever turn on the news?
Anything someone pays for you to see is advertising.
>It starts with not blaming everyone else for being a fucking idiot.
Good goy. Surplus eaters like yourself really need to be killed.

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>>131935907
Berlin.

Yeah that was your mistake.
you went to a city which is literally a shitfest and considered a ,multi-culti fortress.
everything you will get there you will get in any high density city

The stuff we give the bums to drink is the ambrosia for you

>>131936182
>This means you can only shoot if they have a gun or knife and are coming at you.

Wrong bitch, it turns on reasonable fear of imminent death or bodily harm, which can be created in many ways besides guns and knives.

Come at me

>>131936201
Ancient Roman law also provides for something called usufruct, which is the right to use and avail oneself of private property and the fruits thereof as long as it doesn't harm the owner. The right of usufruct in modern law is mostly limited to beachfronts.

>>131936308
so none of your "good" breweries sell in berlin? how inbred are your brewers?

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>>131929572
Then I was like ...

>>131936308
>pilsner

nah, I'd rather have a Belgian Quad if I'm drinking something imported

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>>131929572
>googles amount of deaths of muslims in the last 16 years compared to US servicemen

>>131936284

>Blaming Jews because you're fucking stupid

You are the living embodiment of a LARPing faggot.

Killing yourself would actually harm the Jews because they count on weak idiots like you to be among us.

>>131931065
>I will not defend my property if it is invaded.

Will you fuck off already you cucked cunt? Damn I know you Germans want to keep the cuck throne, you can keep it and shove it up your ass.

>>131936478
You should ask how inbred berlin ist instead

>>131936387
Listen moron, I was using the most common examples. In MOST cases if someone is just walking onto your property then you cannot shoot them. In fact, in our investigations we have had the live-cams in the car and were threatened with shooting. Guess what? They didn't shoot because everyone understands that at the end of the day, if I'm not objectively putting your life in SERIOUS danger, then you can't do a fucking thing. Pussy.

>>131936516
rejecting the bohemian brew-art

i got bad news for you

>>131931550
Lol you're retarded

>>131936714
Oh and fucker, I was talking about preventing people from trespass in the first half of my paragraph. If you had actually read, then you'd know only the second half pertains to your level of defense (aka defense of the self, NOT the property). Christ alive, let me guess... law student still reading out of BarBri?

>>131936569
lmao shit slinging because you have no argument. gj anon proud if u
ps
the game

>>131936714
I don't think anybody's actually advocating for going on shooting sprees over technicalities but rather having a friendly discussion about what exact boundaries seem most reasonable and from what perspective.

I think so far we've heard some interesting historical legal arguments for why we would not want to allow for shoot on sight of trespassing as well as a cultural agreement that you're asking for trouble to abuse whatever right to trespass there might be.

And then there's you thowing a fit.

>>131935465
>Alaska
The south and southeast are pretty comfy, the interior is infested with mosquitos, almost everyone is white, which is nice. I've never been to western Alaska but I think it's mostly Indian. Paving and plumbing are low quality or nonexistent the further north you go due to permafrost, but those are minor issues.

>>131931587
>>131932254
>Budweiser a piss shit meme
Of course it's not great, but for as cheap as it is and as light as it is it has a pretty nice flavor.
How many beers in Germany are sold for about $1 per 12 OZ?

>>131937056
So law student reading out of BarBri or 20-25 year old that reads too much common law online and believes in bullshit like 'sovereign citizenship'? One of those is right and I'm not sure which one it is.

>>131927367
Dumbass, he means they will be shot on-site, as in; they won't be marched OFF-site and THEN shot.

>>131937313
You're the first one to have brought up sovereign citizenship in this thread. It's Friday night dude. Maybe lay off the adderal for the weekend. Crack a beer.

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>>131937278
most euro beers cost more in europe than america

>>131937443
Aha! We have a winner, it is one of those. I'm going to go with law student reading BarBri.... I venture that you're a 2L. Perhaps at a Tier 2 school with not so fantastic job prospects? I'm on a roll here.

>>131926303
come on give this man some love

>>131937366
He won't shoot you if you get outside of his property lines first.
That's good and fair and sporting.

>>131929029
Alaska Gold Standard for 2A checking in. I can bring an RPG into a school and have beers with the principal during school hours.
But only if invited.

>>131932254
I'm in the asshole of this country and I still have the choice between a few decent beers. It isn't the 80's anymore.

>>131930170
They would only get shot if they were niglets. Definitely wouldn't shoot white children. All is well.

>>131934358
This

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>>131936569
Sorry, I didn't notice your post because I filter rebbitspacing.
>needs people to be idiots
>Jews need people to be idiots
Nice white solidarity there. Swing your pee bottles around some more, won't you?

>>131930411
>Those who have parents at home with a brain don't learn shit in school, they learn at home

Very much this. Or if you are able to go to a private school, or one of the very few and shrinking good public schools.

>>131937548
Beer in germany is cheaper than water.

Try to get a pint of beer for 29 cents in burgerland.

>>131936212

Do Swedes understand irony?

>>131936308
So is Ottinger good?

>>131937584
If you read the thread, you'd see that I work at a university. They just gave me some fancy certificate for being employed for 15 years as a research scientist. I'm not sure what you're after here.

>>131937826
i can get a 30 pack for 15 bucks

>>131936182
You are a very shitty lawyer then. In Arizona if someone is unlawfully within your residence you are well within your right to shoot them. Shit if they are advancing toward your car in a threatening manner you are within your right to shoot them. And this is all without them having a any weapon besides their own body.

>>131937278
>about $1 per 12 OZ?
>cheap is good
Mein Gött, man. Grow some fucking discernment. Lager is for people who don't know better.

>>131937826
What beer is being sold for 29 cents per pint?

>>131938016
you can get a can of beer with 500ml for 29 cents.

>>131937853
i would say yes.
other germans would say no....cuz it is cheap.
and everything that is cheap is bad in their opinion.

>>131937863
Lol. "Research Scientist" Strange, I got a Master and a Doctorate (Chem. Eng. and Law). Went to two pretty good schools and never remember having a "research scientist". However, if you're an adjunct faculty at some shitty liberal arts school, then don't toot your own horn. I'm still convinced you're a grad student though.

>>131936714
>being this mad that he can't accurately state a common law rule statement

No need to lash out at me for your shortcomings. You pulled an overbroad rule out of your ass that mischaracterizes the law and completely left out the most important elements of the defense.

>>131938011
>I'll make up a completely new argument because I'm too fucking stupid to figure out what someone typed out and yet I will still manage to come across as an arrogant asshole
Oh fuck off you hipster piece of shit.

>>131938090
Which beer?

>>131937776
That image is oddly inspirational in a way only a Taiwanese basket weaving forum meme could be.

>>131925874
>On site
>On this site (property), trespassers will be shot
>Trespassers will be shot on site
This is actually more correct than "on sight" because you could see a trespasser on someone else's property and not have the right to shoot him. However, if the trespasser is "on site" you 100% have the right to shoot, depending on the state.
These Americans seem well educated and capable of critical thinking.

>>131938008
Show me a statutory interpretation/verdict that wasn't reversed regarding THAT ISSUE (don't try the bullshit of sustained on alternative grounds) or GTFO.

>>131938401
Sorry not sustained, affirmed. Apologies.

>>131938008
And it could be easily argued that the act of trespass image rural community is done with malicious intent to which the owner had no idea what type of malicious intent the perpetrator of said trespass could be with the intent of. At that point they would be well within their right to end said tressapass in the most expedient manner and safest possible to said owner which would include shooting and killing the tresspasser

>>131938338
it is called schultenbraeu.
500ml can at aldi

>>131938401
Would case law work for you, faggot?

>>131938262
I've never been a grad student actually except for having been signed up for a program to get an MS with an additional year before deciding I'm not much in to being published because then my name goes on things. I went directly in to staff getting a BS, although that doesn't stop people from frequently assuming I should be addressed as Dr. Anon. And of course that's not my technical title, just a suitably anonymized job description.

Kind of backward considering now if you put my name into google you'll mainly find publications with my name on them. Life's funny that way. I guess you might also find all the questions I field for the main project I've been on for the past 8 years with a tiny bit of digging.

>>131938568
That's cool, you can 'argue' that. With that said, it won't fly in the Fourth Circuit. How do I know this? I practice in two states in that circuit. Additionally, I've yet to hear about cases from any of our other locations that suggests otherwise. There's a difference between law school and practice. It's that in practice, the strong majority of the time people who attempt this crap end up with time behind bars.

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>>131938338
Best shit joooonge

>>131936212
Thatsthejoke.jpg

>>131938401
Chapter 199 Senate Bill 1145 passed into law April 24, 2006.
Straight from the state legislature website http://www.azleg.gov//FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/47leg/2r/laws/0199.htm&Session_ID=83

>>131938598
> schultenbraeu
well, first it looks like google says it's dutch. second, it's only sold at a supermarket. third, thats kinda cool its so cheap.

i assume you're meaning to say that this is commonplace, and you can get just about any beer you want for less than $1/12 oz. if so, thats awesome.

>dont kid yourself. nothin' personnel

>>131938675
Case Law that hasn't been overturned and isn't currently in question (If I search it on westlaw/lexis/etc. and it has a yellow flag, then don't give me that shit if the yellow or red flag pertains to that issue). I don't care about "well ONE COULD argue". Yeah nice, my clients don't pay for ONE COULD ARGUE.

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>>131925874
>not knowing what the word 'site' means
>attacking others' intellect

>>131939131
Interpreted fucker. I said interpreted. Like by an app. court?

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>>131925874
>>131925911

>>131930247
>2 meter tall tires
>same ground clearance
Your retarded m8.

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>>131925874
It is and isn't.

Europeans make fun of us for our shitty education system. But when people who remember how well educated this country was before the DoE existed point out that we were #1 in science, math, medicine, engineering, and then say we should get rid of the DoE and go back to the American system(states, counties, and cities control their education and no one else because the constitution doesn't empower the federal government to run education) Europeans make fun of us even more and go "hurr durr stupid burger wants to get rid of education hurp derp I am completely oblivious to the fact that literally every state, county,and city in the US has a government" while also being totally oblivious to how mis-educated and brainwashed they themselves have been by a centralized government that doesn't want a populace of critical thinkers.

The irony is in the US some of the smartest people are the ones who avoid the education system, especially now that subjects like calculus and computer programming can be learned completely free of charge and totally outside of the school system.

But long story short, getting rid of the DoE would fix our shitty education system. When we had freedom in education, it was the best. Take away the freedom, it's shit.

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>>131925874
Hey Poland, I thought we were cool.

>>131938877
That's cool and all but Arizona isn't in the fourth circuit and in Arizona if you get off in the first case at state level you can't be retired because of this thing called double jeopardy. Not to mention here killing someone on your property is a very easy write off especially down along the border with the cartels. You won't find a jury in the state that would convict without video or audio proof of you not being in fear for your safety.

>>131930170
I'm sure they can make exceptions and just tell them to leave or have the police remove them. The signs are to ward off intruders with malicious intent, regular people at the wrong place ignorantly is a different story.

>>131939268
It's law faggot.

>>131927218
Where do you live? I need a new tv and it obvious you won't be fighting back.

>>131931587
Never heard of it, and Budweiser is absolutely disgusting. I prefer Belgian ales with some actual taste.

i searched a bit more like i have nothing else to do.

so i found that the beer called 5.0 is priced 29 cents aswell and is crafted by the oettinger group.
and can only be sold so cheap cuz it is just a black can with the 5.0 label on it because it contains half a litre.

schultenbraeu is dutch yeah...at least the name.
but the beer itself is sold germany wide for the same price at 29 cents.
Aldi has its own brand which is sold by a six pack of 0.5 plastic bottles.
which means 3 litre and are sold at 1.69 euro

>>131939143
>hey Bill what's your offer on this case?
>Wow 2 years state? He's a good kid, this was all a misunderstanding, any way we could do 5 years probation?
>No? Oh.. Okay...
>Good news Jimmy! I talked him down to just two years!

>>131938989
Je kan je eigen winkeltje beginnen zo te zien.

>>131928956
>t.suburban and rural retard

>>131939268
http://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/00411.htm

Maybe that is better for you faggot.

>>131939532
That's fine, find a non-fourth circuit case friend. You know Arizona has an app. court too right friend? It doesn't have to be a fed. app. court. Also, even if you were worried about Double J. you could still find a reversal of conviction or the appeal that usually comes from a prosecutor on that issue. SOMEONE would appeal that issue. That would be a landmark case in your state. Find it or gtfo.

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>>131931587

Oh boy. Yeah, Carlsberg is here, but don't spend your time there. About 10 years ago America started making the best beer in the world. Not even kidding. The best beer, in basically every category, better Belgians than Belgium, better Pilseners than Germany, etc. Much like how our wine blew the pants off of France once we started trying, our beer has surged into its natural place. The only problem is wading through the enormous variety. The market is so ravenous, we do shit like resurrect dead German beer styles (pic related), because who doesn't love saltwater and coriander?

Go to a large scale tasting with a bunch of brewers, almost guaranteed to be 99% white.

>>131925874
>Is "burger education" a myth?
Libfaggots have been in charge of our education system for several decades now. That is why we are sinking down the list of educated nations that we used to top.

Our white kids still do pretty well, though, in spite of it all.

>>131939843
>http://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/00411.htm
Two things, while you still need a case cite, I'll forgo that and point out that nowhere does it say you can use deadly force to prevent trespass. Just as I suspect friend.

>>131939268
You can google the appeals court cases there are a shit ton that all say the law is clearly written and applies to aggregated assault among other things.

>>131939730
de blikken leeg Kanker

>>131939895
Start with State of Arizona vs Barraza

>>131940086
Yes but from you can say they were on your property to commit burglary, which is covered under that law.

>>131940189
Lawyers don't google. Also, you're making the claim, you provide the case cite. I'm going to go ahead and assume you're an army-baseball cap wearing "oath keeper" or some such bullshit. Provide a case THAT HAS NOT BEEN OVERTURNED IN YOUR STATE or GTFO.

>>131930518
Scots are the engineers of the industrial revolition, Mehmet.
Irish are the skilled tradesman who built nearly every monument and cathedral in the nation.

>>131940047
>sour cherry beer
best beer in the world

>>131940388
Horseshit, you'll take a plea so fast your head will spin. I've had idiot clients decline our rep. and lose those case (one got 15 years for manslaughter).

>>131940500
You don't know me

>>131940500
You'd sure try to get him to take the plea, you defense attorneys are the biggest pussies.

>>131940305
They affirmed the conviction... either we are looking at different cases or you didn't reading that the conviction was affirmed at the app. level.

>>131940790
He didn't take the plea with us, we were left simply monitoring the case while he effectively lost his case and took the plea deal last minute.

>>131940790
>You'd sure try to get him to take the plea, you defense attorneys are the biggest pussies.
Have you forgotten your muh private property and muh no right to my labor storylines so quickly? You'll plea because your muh private enterprise ass can't afford to defend the case vigorously.
Kill yourself, socialist.

>>131940790
And when I say kill yourself, I mean don't EVER post on this Cambodian spear fishing forum EVER again unless it's a link to the live stream where you blow your own head off.

>>131940391
I'm doing this on a phone it's kinda hard to read through the cases to find the small thing you want to nitpick on. I've given you a case which sites other cases and the law on the books. You called bullshit on my first post which had nothing to do with rural property trespass but referred to your car and house. I've given you enough info to show you were wrong to call bullshit on it, and if you think you couldn't make a case for a rural trespass shooting on the outlying property and not the immediate home you are, as I said before, a shitty lawyer

>>131940391
It was overturned in favor of the law you dumb fuck.

>>131941245
>I've given you a case which sites other cases and the law on the books
>sites
You're outclassed, kid. Just give up.

>>131931587
Budweiser is a German beer.

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>>131925874
burgers are to (((education))) what pooes are to (((hygiene)))

>literal caste societies

Does everybody love lawyers or what? This is what they do on Friday nights for fun.

>>131941030
>>131941192

I have no idea what you're talking about so I'm guessing this is the gibberish ramblings of a schizo

>>131941386
Of course I am I'm doing this from a phone and I have no law experience. The law on the books says if you have reasonable fear of loss of life or bodily harm you can kill niggers who come in your house( which is reason enough in arizona) and faggots who approach your car with the intent to remove you from it. This nigger wants me to cite a specific case in the thousands of random ass cases in Arizona regarding this law.

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>>131933401
Common core tucked the US math-wise. It's all about being number smart but they teach it upfront... it's like teaching someone how a car works before they've ever seen a car.

>>131940990
Just pointing out that in general defense attorneys these days are just well marketed plea machines. Telling their clients that they negotiated for the agreement when in reality it was the standard offer based on the offer matrix

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>>131931068
it's not worth it

>>131941386
Hahahaha you couldn't even cite a proper case and you're saying outclassed. You idiots didn't even know of where to search try westlaw/lexis/ravel/ shit there's plenty of free sites, and guess what the house and car are different from trespass on land. You can't make a case for it, why? I've seen lawyers better than me fail. At the end of the day, even if the jury is sympathetic, the judge ALWAYS reverses and its normally not even sent back to the same jury. You can call someone a shitty lawyer, but your redneck philosophies don't work in actual courts. My challenge to you is simple: cite a case that has not been overturned that says without a legitimate deadly threat, and ONLY to prevent trespass or property on land, you can shoot to kill(or other use deadly force to do so). If it's been overturned then don't cite, obviously. I just shep'd the case law twice btw, you can give up if you'd like.

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>>131931587
Budweiser is our worst macro brewery beer. Try Miller, PBR or Coors instead.

>>131941514
German ***Inspired**** maybe. But I agree with that German poster. Budweiser is shit.
Adolphus Busch didn't even drink Budweiser because he himself thought it was shit.
At least Adolph Coors actually drank his beer recipe.

>>131941641
CITE, you fucking special needs student. Get out.

>>131941691
>The law on the books
Remember checks and balances? The ONLY reading of the law that matters is the one made by a judge hearing a case.

>>131941981
>didn't see that I was telling the gadsdenfag he was outclassed by people who have at least a vague understanding of judicial review
Friendly fire much? You're ignorant of post IDs, you're samefagging, and/or you're just an attorney shitposting for fun.

>>131942497
>being this psychotic

m8 either you're a mongoloid who doesn't know how the ID system works or you're a schizo, because this has nothing to do with anything I've said

>>131942497
You know too much.... I've pretty much been shit-posting but he hasn't replied in a while... so I'm gonna fuck off and get ready to go out. I'm still in the fucking office. If he really wanted to win this argument he would just use a free case-reporter, but I already made sure that I was right. Sure you "could argue his case," but it's all so fact-intensive that it usually ends up with a plea. (Btw, good reply to that kid with the checks and balances). PEACE!

>>131942851
Ok bye, go scam some drunk drivers out of their money to play telephone between them and the prosecutor

>>131936569
>larping on the internet
how are you on this fine day, /r/the_donald?

>>131942210
You know, of those, I actually wouldn't mind swilling PBR. Maybe my low class college days are showing, but it's actually pretty inoffensive for cheap piss beer.

>>131942851
Kek. Cheers and have a good night, you cunt.

>>131942814
Nah, just need to step out for some tendies to calm muh jittery fingers. Have fun everyone

>>131943189
PBR is pretty good, but it's inconsistent as fuck when it comes to taste sometimes.
Part of the reason they are so cheap is that they don't actually have a their own brewery, it just gets contracted out to a handful of breweries in the Wisconsin area.
It's like a beer recipe football that gets tossed around the country a bit.

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>>131925874
>burger meme

>>131925874
>>131925911
what if the mailman comes?

>>131943777
kill him

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>>131941869
Who thought this was a good idea?

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>>131931587
>It's like Bitburger

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>>131930384
did you photoshop this on you fuck?

>>131946723
Looks like a steel shooting target.

>>131941869
As much as I despise Common Core, I think a kid's more likely to understand how to do smallish sums in their head with the understanding imparted by the latter method.

>>131943777
Make him lick it up

>>131947692
It shouldn't be required though. It's a useful neat trick for estimation and a worthwhile exercise, but there's literally nothing wrong with doing real arithmetic the real way.

If a kid wants to show his or her work using an officially sanctioned one neat trick instead then fine.

>>131943106
>doesnt know the meme about using the term LARP to also refer to people rp'ing on the internet

holy shit, is it literally you're first week?
I dont even mean this in a "hurr durr new fag" way either, we always refer to people as LARPing even though its online , it gets referenced in the majority of threads

>>131947961
>calling out redditors posting reddit memes means you're a newfag
fuck off newfag

>>131947916
When kids understand how to estimate, they understand the holes in bullshit arguments more readily. That's not just a neat trick, that's the basis of not getting jewed in life. It's also a helpful check for knowing whether they might have made a calculation error in the usual process.
I don't think kids should be mathing so verbosely throughout their school careers, by any means. But, if kids and adults can math in their heads without showing their work, there's literally nothing but good that can come from that.

>>131948482
I'm not against teaching the technique at all. I'm just against requiring it beyond getting the kids to understand how to use it as one of the tools in the bag.

For me, I found showing work to be really tiresome, and it was was nice to have something as braindead stupid and easy as long division where you could numb yourself to the world and mechanically crank it out until there was something more interesting to do.

>>131928152
Binge watching it on (((jewtube))) m8.

>>131929638
Your retard friend just can't spell, it's holler.

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>>131948134
>im not a newfag, YOU'RE a newfag

wow, nice

>>131925874

At least with my interactions with burgers it seems to be truth.

>>131931152
>1

Your right. We don't got education.

>>131931152
Forgot to add that this is proof jews want us to kill each other. This kike post right here is trying to prevent a good ol' boy and a damn yankee from even trying to get along. Disgusting.

>>131931612
Nonsense. Back then the average person was even less educated. It's just that the retard masses were completely illiterate so they couldn't write their retard-speak down.

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>>131950165
dont even start with me fucker, i have more of those images than you could possibly imagine

>>131931597
Sure it is, but you know what they say: play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

>>131936182
You're dumb as fuck, in Texas you can hose down a hooker with your AK if she tries to burn you: http://americablog.com/2013/06/ezekiel-gilbert-prostitute-acquitted-murder.html

You fucking flaglarp mouthbreather, gtfo

>>131936212
My thirty ought six don't need none of your talk, Swede.

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>>131936284
No, he's completely right. You're just a lazy faggot who can't bother to do a simple google search to learn about these things. In the age of information, there is NO excuse to be ignorant.

Don't blame your parents/the jews/genetics/etc. for your woes. Stop shifting blame off of yourself and actually do something to fix your problems rather than whining about them on a vietnamese mahjong enthusiast forum

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>>131930247
Your effeminate faggotry is showing anon.

>>131936714
>some Kentucky holler at 2 AM
>trespassers dead, probably records as long as your arm
>my story is I din do nuthin, them boys were sayin they was gonna kill me

Whatevs, city lawyer.

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>>131925874
>Nothing behind this gate worth dying for
hmm...

>>131954117
You're not going to fall for that old trick, are you?

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>>131954117
>>131954917
Wrong one.

>>131925874
Technically, that sign still works. Castle doctrine doesn't apply until they are on your property, or "on site".

>>131942210

> PBR, Miller, or Coors

What the honest fuck? Not recommending Yeungling. Are you uncultured?

>>131957631
Somehow people don't seem to know about yingling. I haven't price shopped in a while but for grab me a beer beer it's pretty dang solid.

>>131957631
I love Yeungling, but I only drink it when I travel to Florida.
I wish they sold it out west.

>>131927218
Commie

>>131925874
tell all the foreigners to get the fuck out of our colleges then, especially the indians and chinks