Guys, I just got done reading this and it's pretty convincing.

K.

>>131918646
congrats, you're retarded. pls fuck off now.
>sage

>>131918646
>Guys, I just got done reading this and it's pretty convincing. I don't know if I can stay on the right side of the political spectrum anymore

read it and I say you need to become alt right.
Nowhere did Marx talk about the plight of the forced employment immigrantian to serve the rich.

But he did say support the working class, it was in fact his entire life's work.

Marxism was changed in the 1970s, class struggle become various struggles which had no relevance in the real world. Like feminist struggle, race struggle etc. Even though many of those issues were more or less resolved.

That's why Marxism today is the opposite of the early Marxism, which was right.

Marx also never believed in a utopian state, which is fair, no such thing can ever be achieved without severely oppressing the population.

But Always support the working class people, lest you are on the wrong side of history.
And the working class leans heavily to the right.

>>131918714
>>131918745

Don't act so infantile

>>131918646

but of course the narcissistic idiots these days
fancy themselves "marxist" because it is
supposed to be a part of their socially
constructed new identity or something.

They ascribe to a prefixed set of ideas whic
in more way than one mirrors a fusion of the
worst aspects of communism and the worst aspects of fascism.

The way in which the imperialistic powers
use "Marxism" as a tool to promote imperialistic
ideas about a forced unification of Europe
should itself be evident of how little they know
about Actual Marxism and actually supporting
working class ideas.

But the bourgeoisie elites care little for
actualities. It's more about a sense of being
able to redefine themselves to appeal to some
sick sense of moral decay.

How dare people have material possessions I want and I don't have.

>>131918646
grab 'em by the pussy

>>131920744
>How dare people have material possessions I want and I don't have.

You could have houses filled to the lid with materialistic trash, and that would still be a drop in the ocean compared to what some of the people who lobby the European Commission has. Those who lean "left".

>>131918646
the real question is weather or not people are hard working enough to continue contributing to society when they're going to be taken care of regardless.

Shill

>>131918646
Read Mein Kampf, then you will come to the good side. You can tell how incredibly intelligent Hitler is by reading it

REMINDER: LEFTY/POL/ IS ORGANIZING RAIDS AGAINST US, IGNORE THESE THREADS.

>>131921302
>the real question is weather or not people are hard working enough to continue contributing to society when they're going to be taken care of regardless.

That was not really that much of an issue
during Marx's time, by todays definitions he
would most likely be considered a conservative
or alt-right.
There are no Real Marxists left, sadly. But the
rallying cry to help out actual people has been
taken up by the populist Right.

As for people contributing to society there are
several people to old or sick to contribute.
As for those who steal benefits there clearly
has to be regulation in place to prevent this.

As for nations, smaller nations are best for
looking after their own working class
populations, and not gigantic empires like the
EU.

The US is a special case because it actually
works and has worked for a very long time,
without being too oppressive.

Now read Mein Kampf and swing back around

>>131918646
So, how communism is supposed to work?

>>131922249
>communism

communism doesn't really work, never has and
never will.

Marx was in fact (in contrast to popular belief)
an avid critic of utopian socialism like communism.
But try telling that to Antifa. But then again,
they are more interested in their drugs than
actual politics and issues.

>>131922249

>So, how communism is supposed to work?
During the 70s, A lot of prominent communists
did a 180 and became extremely right wing
around the same time as the international
establishment adopted marxist rhetoric to
promote their politics bs.

>>131922594
So, have anyone ever proposed an alternative to capitalism?

>>131921768
This. Ban and scalp all left scum

>>131918646
The best part was when Dumbledore died

>>131922952
There is none. Capital and "personal" property are the same, and property ownership is a necessary part of human nature.

>>131919856
Fucking kill yourself you commie scum.

>>131918646
have you read Mein Kampf?

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I agree w/ the OP. It was a very convincing book.

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>>131918646
Have you read the Gulag Archipelago, bucko?

>>131918646
If you read this and agree with it its obviously the first political manifesto you've ever read

>>131922952
>So, have anyone ever proposed an alternative to capitalism?

A lot of people did, communism, Stalinism,
Leninism, Maoism, Red Khmer, etc.

But Marx was dead a long time before this
happened. Engels finished his work and wrote
from a more ideological point of view.

Capitalism as a whole is not really a political
ideology, but more of a loose set of ideas about
macro economic.

Most political system has influence from Marx
criticism of utopian politics, it was considered
an important work for a long time. Even the US
and all of Europe.

in particular and every authoritarian system is
that they remove agency from the people in
order to govern. Being deeply rooted in civic
upheaval and revolutionary rhetoric,
communism betrays its own ideas because it
becomes too authoritarian to be a political
system which represents the trends of working
class ideas.

>>131918646
Realize that every power hungry "leader" after who "tryed" Marx ideas simply used them to make themselves literal god-emperor dickhead tyrants.
>But China
Is more capitolist than commie at this point. Humans in power are shit heads looking for a leg up over his fellow man and the luxury of life. It can never work, at all. Stalin abused it, Big L made himself a worshiped cult leader, Fidel had a differant woman brought to him 3 times a day while his people starved, Pol Pot was INSANE, luxury goods got to the rich quietly in the USSR while people starved, North Korea is INSANE by which I mean the entire dynasty.
Will.
Never.
Work.

>>131924145
>A lot of people did, communism, Stalinism,Leninism, Maoism, Red Khmer, etc.

none of them worked very well. One of the best
examples of communism is North Korea. It
hasn't fallen yet, but it is authoritarian and oppressive. Nobody wants to live like that.
as fuck.

>>131924503
>oppressive
typo
oppressive as fuck.

>>131923262
>Fucking kill yourself you commie scum.

piss off antifa scum.

>>131922992
We're not organizing. We just come here randomly to shitpost

>>131918646
Now read Ayn Rand

>>131918646
Have read it, Marx is good at identifying problems, without offering any valid solutions

Does it work in practice though?

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>>131918646
Guys, I just got done reading this and it's pretty convincing. I don't know if I can stay on the left side of the political spectrum anymore...

>>131925062
>Does it work in practice though?

communism doesn't work. It's self contradictory.

I think most of the people who believe in
utopianism have the same zeal /
fundamentalism as religious zealots.

Then you have the establishment, they use
rhetoric to make cash. They use their academic
connections to write a bunch of phd thesis's
which makes absolutely no sense but promotes
their BS agenda of globalization.

>>131925291

My thoughts exactly

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>>131925501
This.
This this this.

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>>131918646
Even Hitler agreed with most of it.

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>>131918646
WTF I LOVE JUDEOBOLSHEVISM NOW!!!

>>131918646

now read a history book

>>131923262

Aside from the debatable quotes of the evolution of marxism how is what he's saying wrong?

>Support the working class
>Kill yourself commie scum

How about you keep sucking on your Israeli billionaires cock and stabbing your fellow countrymen in the back.

>>131918646
You're on a spectrum alright.

>(((reading)))

>>131928290
eliminating inequality is a soulless inhuman endeavor

Lol reading CM and Das Kapital made me lean even father right

>>131924954
Rand is a shit novelist, read Rothbard or Hoppe.

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Hahahah OK

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