well /pol/? How do you justify monarch on this day and age?

>>131902513
>How do you justify monarch on this day and age?

Bessie didn't vote to let the shitskins in. Your parliament did that.

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>>131902513
Anything to prevent the proles asking "who is really in charge?". She is a mascot for the system that supports her.

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>>131902513
How do you justify not killing yourself when you look in the mirror you stinky 3rd world subhuman

>>131902513
You do know she reading the government speech, she doesn't get a say on what goes in it...right?

I'd rather pay for one monarch than 200 million mexicans

>>131902513
Figurehead monarchs are a pretty neutral issue, they don't seem to sway public opinion much in either direction

>>131902513
Divine right

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>tfw no absolute monarchy
Democracy doesn't work.

Oh yes please let the left go after the queen
That will backfire hard.

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>>131903147
>wanting to give absolute power to this cuck at any moment

yeah okay

>>131903300
Monarchy works best with constant plotting and regicide between noble families when required.

>>131903300
>implying absoute monarchy supporters accept anything other than prince charlie and the jacobite king

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>>131903300
It's not about what we want. It is GODS WILL.

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>>131903300
>>131903431
>>131903485
>this will never happen

>>131903670
https://youtu.be/MoJVn0Eq8y0

Forgot the link, I'm a retard.

>>131902513
Literally a welfare queen

>>131902513

Who is that guy next to her in the royal throne? I thought they didn't have a king? If they do, why haven't I ever heard of him, only the queen?

>>131903825
prince consort, literally the he-wife of the queen

>>131903825
It's her husband Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh. Look up quotes from him he's brilliant.

>>131903825
The Queen holds 99% of the royal titles. The King is pretty much just her husband.

>>131903825
Prince Philip, the Queen's husband

the goyim just need to be controlled.

You want to talk about wealth inequality? At the turn of the 20th century, 81% of Americans owned property. Just 3% of Mexicans did. Our Anglo legal system (and genes) gave us a robust middle class.

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>>131902513
>sell all that shit
>split the money between everyone
>everyone gets ~$1

>>131903825
He is Prince Phillip. He actually the best royal they have. He fucking hilarious.

"I decare this open, whatever this is"

"At a project to protect turtle doves in Anguilla in 1965, he said: “Cats kill far more birds than men. Why don’t you have a slogan: ‘Kill a cat and save a bird?’”

"to a British trekker in Papua New Guinea, 1998: “You managed not to get eaten then?”

To Atul Patel at reception for influential Indians, 2009: “There’s a lot of your family in tonight.”

To a woman solicitor, 1987: “I thought it was against the law for a woman to solicit.”

>>131902513
It's quite easy to justify the monarchy in this day and age, not that current year means anything. And completely ignoring 1post by your ID.

The queen is the head of state and she mainly has a ceremonial role in the day to day workings of government, the royal family also provides good people to host public events, openings and award ceremonies. That said, From birth the members of the royal family are groomed to be the head of state and every responsibility that entails, this is their first responsibility in life and as such are literally the best people for the job. They are also the best failsafe for a collapsing or corrupt government, if at anytime the government goes full autist she can dismiss them and enforce it as she is the head of the armed forces, the military take orders from her. I highly doubt that this would ever have to happen as the Westminster system is extremely stable, but it is an option. If the Germans had succeeded in taking out British parliament or if the government had been ineffectual in WW2 the king Could have dismissed the government and ran the country until hostilities had ended. The royal family may appear to be redundant by the uneducated, but having an impartial highly educated, trained, unaffiliated observer sitting at the top of the system that has the power to fix the shit when it goes wrong is something republics should envy.

>>131902942
The monarch makes more money than she costs anyway, not to mention her private properties which she lets the government take the income from more than offset her cost.

Every Nation needs some core device to protect their culture and way of life, in the United States that device is the Constitution. In the United Kingdom it's the King or Queen.

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I give you a toast Ladies and gentlemen
May this fair land we love so well
In Dignity and freedom dwell
While worlds may change and go awry
There'll always be an England
While there's a country lane
Wherever there's a cottage small
Beside a field of grain
There'll always be an England
While there's a busy street
Wherever there's a turning wheel
A million marching feet
Red, white and blue
What does it mean to you?
Surely you're proud
Shout it loud
Britons awake!
The Empire too
We can depend on you
Freedom remains
These are the chains
Nothing can break
There'll always be an England
And England shall be free
If England means as much to you
As England means to me

>>131903300
>cuck
>ex wife got knocked up by a Muslim so he had them both executed rather than defile his sons
>also married said woman who is one of the all-time babes with literal 10/10 tits

>>131902513
Someone is always going to rule us. In a capitalist society it's the one who is ruthless enough to amass a great wealth. In an aristocratic society, it's the one who was lucky enough to be chosen by God. Pick one. I'd pick the normies any day over ruthless globalists.

>>131903802
She wouldn't be if they abolished the monarchy though, being ancap, surely you would let her keep her private property and everything, the royal family is independently wealthy.

>>131903431
>>implying TRUE absoute monarchy supporters would accept anything other than Arthur, King of Britons back from Avallon to rule Europe.

>>131904747
Silence peasant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfHrMnl1uLo

>>131904744
>If this photo was taken today it would include a paki, a african, and a transgender for PC sake.

>>131903147
You would have massive improvement if you just gave lords real power and let all the hereditary peers sit, and let the political doner life peers die out.

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>>131905027
No it wouldn't.

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>>131904387

wooooow that's so wild

>>131904829
I do believe in an aristocracy it falls to whoevers ancestor conquered the most shit. Divine rite is just an excuse to hold onto that power.

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>>131904747
>still want to hold onto british nationalism
>need to defend anti nationalist cuck heir
>dilute yourself into thinking he called diana because of her muslim boyfriend

lolling @ your life

>>131904928
Says the fool whose ancestors sent away Dom Pedro II and doomed the country.

>>131905157
We'd be much better off if we genuinely managed parliamentary/royal relationships better and returned to how it was, say, between the English civil war and Glorious revolution where most of the legislation comes from.

In the words of the traitor Oliver Cromwell, who got one thing right, an absolute parliament is as tyrannical as an absolute monarchy - but our ancestors experience was with tyrannical monarchies so their solution was to give power to parliament and this is what we have now.

The Queen (or any reigning monarch) whilst still subject to removal by the Crown if they overstepped boundaries, should have the unconditional right to pass or deny Royal Assent.

>>131905403
>I do believe in an aristocracy it falls to whoevers ancestor conquered the most shit. Divine rite is just an excuse to hold onto that power.
Yes, it's an excuse, but regression to the mean means that it's going to be pretty average people who end up ruling in the end. Not everyone can be Alexander the Greats.

>>131902513
You too had your chance at being a prosperous and wealthy nation when Maximilian was in charge, Juan.
Instead, you chose to forever be poor, violent and stupid when you killed him.

>>131902513
except she wore a blue dress and hat with yellow flowers this year...

>>131905339
Considering he is the consort to the head of state, an extremely important public figure in an ever increasing PC world, yea it is pretty fucking wild. His statements could easily be construed as sexist and racist by modern standards and somehow he is still more likeable by the far left than PC libshit future King Charles. Honestly the best thing about Charlie becoming king is he'll have to shit up.

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>>131902513

Anglos love their beady rulers.

the republican model doesn't work everywhere, sometimes monarchy is objectively better.

>>131904345
The queen is a multi-trillionaire.

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>>131905887
British Republicans are the most deluded fucktards on the planet. It couldn't and has never worked here.

>>131905488
Agreed,

Or at the very least call a snap election by denying royal assent being like a motion of no confidence.

>>131902513
I see no problem with the Queen giving a speech about poverty while sitting in her 24k gold Throne. Poverty is like rape, it's a social construct so it isn't real.

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>>131902513
She will die on July 4th

>>131902513
>when you live in a shit country and you trash civilized cultures

>>131905991
It didn't work because you cunts were the first to try it since Rome, you were making it up as you went along.

>>131906235
All Brits die a little on 4 July.

>>131906235
How so burger what so special about July 4?

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>>131906404
And we ended up reverting back to a monarchy, exactly like Rome, but in a much shorter time period. The Romans were making that shit up by 100 BC anyway.

>>131906469
Actually we eat lardtard food and theres celebrations held at George Washington's grandfathers home every year

>>131906480
>t. Paki

>>131904992
>king of england, northern ireland, wales, and scotland

Wrong desu, we're one united kingdom, not a set of united kingdoms

>>131906869
The whole movies a clusterfuck from what I've been told. That scene is pretty nice though.

>>131905848
imagine being the greatest race, and knowing that you are the greatest race on the earth, you just know you're the best

except there is one slightly better version of you right next door

they are smarter, funnier, more successful, and everybody seems to like them

that's how Germans feel about the British

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>>131902513

She'll die this year, when? No one knows but I'm sure she hears the oh so low sound of the reapers blade against the grind stone.

>>131906503
Tbh the British system of government is severely outdated when compared to the system implemented in the colonies. And I dare say the reason the republic fell apart aside from the fact Cromwell wanted to be king in everything but name is because of the rotten boroughs. And these rotten boroughs still plague your government to this very day.

I'm sure you miss pronounce borough to an Aussie it looks like it should be pronounced Boh-rooo-gah not buruh

>>131906691
t. Aussie

But honestly what's so special about 4/7/17?

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>>131902641
>didn't vote to let the shitskins in
>>131902721
>She is a mascot
>>131903064
>Figurehead monarchs

How can you people be so brainwashed? She is the real power in the country. Blue pilled normies don't know about the Rothschilds because they stay hidden. But the fucking Queen in her palace? Such overt power and you retards are completely blind.

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>>131902513
>doesn't overthrow monarch
>doesn't understand why the monarch is still there

>>131902513
Monarchy is more real than ever today. People who own transnational banks are basically monarchs of this world, and their children inherit their power as well.

>>131906577
What is considered "american food" on July 4th?

>>131907113
Off yourself Chang

>>131902513
I fucking hate people like this, anti-monarchists are worse than Muslims, niggers and commies combined

>>131906996
No argument what so ever towards the British system being out dated. It wasn't adapted in one single document and there was no founding, it was largely just made up on the spot as a reaction to different parliamentary and royal crises.
>>131907499
Burgers, hotdogs, chips, that sort of stuff. I mean all of this is regularly served in Britain, but we put fancy sauce on and wave a few triangular American flags so its lard food.

>>131904648
>Every Nation needs some core device to protect their culture
>In the United Kingdom it's the King or Queen

Not only has your "device" failed, it has completely betrayed you. Your queen is a globalist pedophile that has sold out the country to muslims.

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>>131903300
Andrew should be King 2bh

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>>131904387
>If it has four legs and it is not a chair, if it has got two wings and it flies but is not an aeroplane and if it swims and it is not a submarine, the Cantonese will eat it.” Said to a World Wildlife Fund meeting in 1986.

>“Well, you'll never fly in it, you're too fat to be an astronaut!” then later, “You could do with losing a little bit of weight.” To hopeful astronaut, 13-year-old Andrew Adams

>“I don't know how they are going to integrate in places like Glasgow and Sheffield.” After meeting students from Brunei coming to Britain to study in 1998.

>“Ah, so this is feminist corner then.” Joining a group of female Labour MPs, who were wearing name badges reading "Ms", at a Buckingham Palace drinks party in 2000.

>“It looks like the kind of thing my daughter would bring back from her school art lessons” On being shown “primitive” Ethiopian art in 1965.

>"Would I get arrested if I unzipped that dress?", after catching Hannah Jackson, 25, in an eyecatching dress

>>131908723
I will miss him when he gone.

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>>131904398
That and a troubling thing I see is the lack of interest in the legislative branch of Republics. They end up focusing on who is the President rather than who actually goes and makes the laws.

With this system all eyes (of the politically illiterate) are on the legislation part of Government during elections. Which results in proper scrutiny during the election period rather than a popularity contest it devolves into in the United States.

Honestly I feel bad for them if you think about it. I dislike the lack of choice they have in who will be King/Queen. Since last time somebody flip flopped out of it caused a crisis that nearly blew up in our faces. Luckily George VI sorted his Monarchy out. Shame the chain smoking did him in.

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>>131902513
Monarchies are cheaper to run than Democracies. So much of the taxpayer money in Democracies goes to corruption, bureaucracy, and the salaries of the bloated government employees.

Its not hypocritical for the Queen to give a speech about poverty. Monarchs are supposed to be a symbol of the people and care about the well-being of them.

Elected officials don't really give a damn about the people. GW Bush didn't care a bit about the poor in America- he just sent them to die in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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>>131909287
I'd like to speak to the Queen and find out her opinion on modern day Britain. I bet deep down inside she knows it's long gone. I think she truly does care but is essentially powerless both through law and old age.

>>131903485
i-is there more?

>>131902513
Actually british monarchs are a net positive for their economy. They get just a fraction of money they would normally do from all the land that belongs to the family. I would be all for richest family over here to pay most of their income back for a privlige of wearing a fancy hat but i doubt they would go for it.

You guess think Prince Charles will try and take her out soon. I mean the guy has been waiting a lifetime for his turn.

>>131909287
>Monarchies are cheaper to run than Democracies. So much of the taxpayer money in Democracies goes to corruption, bureaucracy, and the salaries of the bloated government employees.
>people actually unironically believe this

This is a problem with government, what the fuck do you think "nobles" are exactly? Just unelected bureaucrats sucking up all that money, at least we pick our unelected bureaucrats in a way where some actually competent people get through. Just look at the french revolution or even the tens of thousands of saudi royals sucking MILLIONS individually off the government tit today. If you think this problem comes from democracy you're a mong

No justification for nonces


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>>131909743
>>131909287
I'm not even anti monarchy your argument was just painfully shit.

>>131909743
I mean besides from ministers which are assigned, and under circumstances where PMs can be assigned as opposed to elected (the US has the same system & has applied it e.g Gerald R. Ford), all officials are elected. The reason monarchs are not elected is hurr durr chosen by God, but more importantly they are meant to be raised for that role from an early age. It's meant to be their identity and in their blood.

>>131910383
Is London being rich as fuck any secret?

There's nothing more British than the house of saxe Coburg Gotha

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>>131910590
It baffles me how the longest reigning monarch in history who has served as Queen of Britain for almost 3 quarters of a century can be accused of being foreign by inbreds who have done fuck all for Britain because European monarchs in history (and all aristocrats) married their sons/daughters off to other aristocrats.

>>131902513

Threads starting with "well pol?" Should be banned

>>131902513
Ain't broke don't fix it.

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For commies in particular, it's not good to good on this route, communists are even worse.

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>>131904398
This basicly happened in Norway in WW2. The King refused to recognize the Vidkun Quisling government as legitimate and thus many Norge refused to accept his government as the real government, and looked to Haakon VII as the real government.

>>131910872
I never understood it as well.

Also, the English system seems to make sure that the right member of the family ends up on the throne. That Elizabeth was viewed as highly suitable for the role of queen (and she proven it over decades) was one reason why Edward VIII didn't get much support and was pushed out, and I suspect that Charles might get pushed out in favor of William.

>>131903732
What is this from? This would so awesome if it happened.

>>131902513
Monarchy is preferable to democracy in the long run

>>131912195
Its from the movie King Charles III. Don't watch it. It's not what you think. He's not taking a stand against London being 50%. He isn't removing kebab. It's over some stupid premise where parliament try to pass a bill, King Charles disagrees, refuses it, parliament tries to remove his powers, he disbands parliament (its anti-monarch propaganda), then somehow Kate and William take over and get rid of Charles.

Also Harry's girlfriend is a nigress with a London accent.

>>131912195
>>131912530
but I agree that scene is great

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>>131902513
Queens always do this. I see no issue here.

Go back to /leftypol/

>>131910872
Nice propaganda photo. Yeah Lizzie did shit for the army. So did millions and millions of others if you hadn't noticed.

All I want is a mature 21st century nation that doesnt buy into bollocks like king and queen that you read about in fairy tales.

>poor talks about the rich
>nothing happens

>rich talks about the poor
>everyone loses theirs

>>131902513
A monarch is tasked with giving noblesse oblige to the fickle peasants

>>131902513
>How do you justify monarch on this day and age?
You don't. But nevertheless OP picture stupid beyond belief.

>>131912820
She never said that. This phrase is the best work of propaganda since the 6 gorrillian.

>>131912999
lel fuck off mate. You belong on jewbook with the rest of the middle aged labour voting republican fucks in the north. Your definition of a "mature 21st century nation" is just ruinous and you essentially have what you're asking for. The last time a monarch refused any law parliament passed was Queen Anne in 1708 so enjoy your mature 21st century (((democratic)))) nation because it's right here. It's us pro-monarchs dreaming.

> like king and queen that you read about in fairy tales.
No mention of the last 5000 years of kings.

>>131912530
That sucks, that scene really gave me hope.

>>131912999
UK has little enough checks vs a runaway parliament, let alone if it became a republic.

>>131913618
It's exactly what they've done over the course of four centuries since the civil war. Parliament was never absolute, and still isn't on paper, but they've degraded the monarch to the point where their powers to dissolve parliament would be largely attested and likely thrown out within a day on some legal technicality. Parliament is a joke.

>>131913443
What's wrong with being middle class m8? You classist? I think you have to look at things on their own merits, or lack thereof, and not just continuing something for the sake of it. I don't say anything honourable about being a monarchist, just useful idiots defending the old guard.

>>131914046
Not at all m8 I live in Newcastle and am working class. I just don't go to them for politics. All they want is a sports car and a cheque signed by the Queen every month, they're know fuck all about the monarchy.

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>>131902513
Are you saying poor people are a modern phenomenon?

>justifying a monarchy after 509 BC

>>131914724
why not? the romans did it again 5 centuries later

>>131914787
>republic started basically as a single city and took over the world in 5 centuries
>empire went from most powerful superpower in the world to overrun by tribes in less than 4 centuries
good job ruining civilization monarcucks

>>131915318
>republic is small
>conquers the world in 5 centuries
>becomes too much for one government to manage
>republic becomes oligarch
>political violence, bribery and assassination become the norm
>monarch saves the world
Fuck you faggot Octavian was a genius

>>131906577
Why though?
What's the reasoning for Britain celebrating their colony leaving?

>>131915738
cause we're best friends m8
google washington in the north east of england. its where george washingtons family house is and theres huge celebrations there

>>131915917
Learned something new today.

>>131915711
>Octavian is a pretty good ruler
>Augustus is kill
>25 years later
>DUDE LET'S MAKE MY HORSE A CONSUL LMAO
Thanks a lot empirecuck

>>131915917
>>131916462
the vast majority of brits have no idea what the 4th of july is

>>131909743
>at least we pick our unelected bureaucrats
What?

>>131916867
no thats absolutely true. in primary school and high school it was a dumb excuse to eat lard food like i said and they flew triangular american flags. but i live near washington, infact only 20 minutes from it and know they celebrate it there. its a mock celebration albeit. not like actual americans crying to their national anthem.