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How can we entice young men who have dropped out to opt back

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Alright, the Sexodus of young men is really happening, there's no denying it - they are staying indoors watching porn and playing video games instead of going out, finding gainful employment, finding a wife, buying a house and having children. But how the fuck can we reverse this trend?

>inb4 they are happy, let them be

Yes, they might be now when they are in their teens or 20's, but when they hit their 40's and they realize that they have nothing, they will kill themselves. Just like we should fight against women squandering their youth and becoming bitter, childless cat ladies, we should also fight against men becoming ticking suicide bombs. And this is only talking about them on a personal level, the adverse effects on the wider society are even worse - less taxes, for example.

WE. MUST. DO. SOMETHING.
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>>131897557
>Yes, they might be now when they are in their teens or 20's, but when they hit their 40's and they realize that they have nothing, they will kill themselves.
What exactly is wrong with fewer beta males polluting the gene pool?
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>>131897557
You can't. They've chosen not to play your shitty unrewarding game. Unless you can come up with an entirely new game it's literally game over.
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>>131897801
Beta males are the backbone of civilization. Civilization=civil. If you want a society full of alphas who dominate and where betas don't get anything, go to some African shithole that has constant war.
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>>131897557
40 year old neet here. Married, no kids. Fuck society. Nothing will entice me to come back. Besides two bit street hustling for play money I will never again rejoin society. None of it matters. We all die in the end.

>inb4 holy shit kill yourself
Nah. I'd rather be a drain on society and die of boredom waiting to participate in a civil war that will more then likely never happen.
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>>131897801
>What exactly is wrong with fewer beta males polluting the gene pool?

Because beta males constitute the majority of men.

We actually need them to make civilization function. Just because they're not the absolute pinnacle of sexual majesty doesn't mean they're not useful or important. Being ugly and awkward is not the same thing as being useless.

I was looking at a thing the other day that said something like 50% of millennials have less than $1,000 in their bank accounts. Most of these people are in their late 20's and 30's right now, and they can't even afford rent. If that doesn't worry you, you are probably a nihilist memelord and one of these sad betas.
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>have a job
>still play lots of video games

Its almost as if there is no correlation!
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>>131897557
They honestly don't see a reason for it. My personal opinion is it's becoming a psychological disorder, like that experiment with the rats that became anti-social and genocided themselves.
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>>131897557
The women have become whores

Fix the women and you'll fix the men

Don't and you'll lose society
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>>131898129
there is a difference between playing a bit to relax, and devoting the majority of your time to it because it's where you derive meaning in your life.
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>>131898129
I play a few select games here and theree for some down time
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>>131898077

holy shit kill yourself
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>>131897557
How can we entice young women who have whores out to opt back in to being enticing to men that they feel society is with giving a single damn about.

NOTE: men will have to fix this.
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>>131898085
>We actually need them to make civilization function.

we don't though. that's the problem. if men were needed then they would feel their life was purposeful and they'd bear their burden. instead most have to fight for the scrap make-work that isn't taken by women, migrants and robots.
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>>131898077

Nobody cares about you, pal
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Why should I invest in a doomed society that hates me?

Why should I better myself when any movement to save society will be struck from behind by /pol/acks accusing it of being CONTELPRO?

Why should I contribute to change when democratic outcomes only lead to betrayal (Trump) and violent revolt is numerically impossible?

There's no point anymore.
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>>131898486
>we don't need men to fix civilization because civilization is broken

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>>131897557
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Who the fuck plays a game like this?
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Daily reminder that these threads occur daily and are slide threads made by shills to promote the feminist/Jew narrative that men (especially white men) are useless in society and it also perpetuates the idea of the "manchild" (as if modern women somehow represent maturity in any way shape or form).

Sage, report, and ignore these threads
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>>131898085
I'm shamefully one of these dudes. I don't even splurge on a lot of things or dislike work. Everything is fucking expensive. I also followed bad advice to always seek a better job. No one told me that not working at the same place for 5 years fucks your credit score all the way to hell. Fuck the credit system.
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>>131898571

so you're saying we need beta males to be revolutionaries ? we have that, they're called "allies" . i was talking about men contributing to the system that's in place.
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>>131898541
>Why should I invest in a doomed society that hates me?

Society only "hates" you because you've given up and let other people who aren't like you control it. If you hadn't thrown your entire life away playing videogames in your youth you'd be capable of influencing how society is structured and could turn it to your benefit. How do you think society even forms to begin with? That it just falls from the sky into perfect order? People like *you* were supposed to maintain what existed and build upon it. Instead of that, you've chosen to kick and scream and cry in a pile of your own feces and blame everyone except the only person who can actually do anything about it - YOU!
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Do you guys really want to have kids?
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>>131897557


You do not have to do shit nigger. In a free society you have the freedom to waste your youth, the freedom to work and the freedom to kill yourself from regrett. I will rather kill myself in my 40s, knowing that I only owe this to myself than let some fucker tell me what to do just because he wants to get his hands in my pocket.
Get fucked bitchface, the betas are crashing this plane with no survivors.
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>he's playing Call of Duty Black Ops 3

Not a real gamer
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>>131898823
Society hates me because I'm a white male you bluepilled faggot.
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>>131898486
>we don't though

So why is the MSM raising the alarms about young men dropping out of society and refusing to contribute? Even though men don't find satisfaction and fulfillment from the jobs they are needed to do and drop out, it doesn't mean that those men aren't needed by the society.

It's like a blind person with a helper dog. The blind person isn't nice to the dog so it decides "fuck this, I'm not doing anything anymore". The blind person still absolutely needs the dog to function, but the dog thinks it doesn't need the blind person.
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I just want to play videogames
how hard is it to just leave me be? go fuck off to whatever bitch has it open for you this week, or go jump off a bridge if you're so concerned about civilization
I'll eventually grow out of this when bad times are happening, or I'll succumb to the hard times. Rules of nature, if it ain't broken don't fucking touch it
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>>131898816
>so you're saying we need beta males to be revolutionaries

No, they simply need to be present in society. Locking yourself in your room and playing cowadooty for 16 hours a day whilst earning no money, fathering no children, fighting no wars, and building nothing would logically lead to the total destruction of civilization. Who do you think makes civilization? It's beta male dads who build and fund and make everything. If you decide you want to be an eternal child who just watches the world burn, then you don't get to then complain that it's burning. You already surrendered.
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>>131898523
Then why does this thread exist and why did you respond to my post?
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>>131898951
Nobody hates you. They would need to acknowledge you first for that.
You're just being ignored.
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>>131898951

Yeah because you gave everything away to niggers and women.

Stop being a pussy-whipped little cuck with a negative bank account and twenty-seven WoW characters. Your life will become much easier once you stop immediately surrendering to everyone who tries to step on you.
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>>131898859
4u
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>>131897557
Government arranged marriages with gamification. Contributing to society earns points, (for example: x points for y hours of community service) men with higher points get first pick of wives.
I could elaborate but it doesn't matter because this would require 1) complete fascism and 2) the return of women to the status of being property, neither of which will ever happen in the west despite this being how human civilization has worked for the past 10,000 years. Everyone would rather just abuse freedom to do drugs, play video games, then kill themselves.
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>>131898085
>I was looking at a thing the other day that said something like 50% of millennials have less than $1,000 in their bank accounts.
This is pretty widespread across generations in the US, at least. People are fucking retarded when it comes to saving money.
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>>131899047
>worship immigrants
>worship transsexuals
>worship homosexuals
>demonize masculinity
>denigrate families
>incentivize women towards divorce

>why aren't men participating ???

Hmmm really makes me think
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>>131898541
>Trump betrayed me ;_;
Nice meme, but no. Go be a nihilist degenerate elsewhere
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>>131897557
I think racial homogeneity and de-Judification would solve everything.
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I dont want to grow up, there is literally nothing waiting for me out there but pain and sadness

t. betacuck
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>>131899219
>Contributing to society earns points
Will those points unlock achievements with nifty titles?
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Society is cancer, humans are garbage. We are easily controlled machines programmed to breed and work. There is no point in doing anything.
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>>131898077
40+ neet here too bro. I like you. Your thinking is on point.

A job is worse than any gig. Because a job ends without you having knowledge of the end date. At least with gigs, you have some ability to plan. Plus it's easy to make less than the cutoff for gibs.

And don't listen to this guy >>131898523. If nobody cared, you'd already be dead.
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>>131898595
Everything is a slide thread nowadays, it seems.
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Wives do nothing but bitch, having a wage slave job sucks ass and kids are expensive ungrateful shits.

I do plan on doing all of that, however.
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>>131897557
>kikes fuck over an entire generation of men
>they opt out
OOOOOOYYYYY VEY if the goyem don't work we can't collect any shekels
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>>131897557

The problem is the women. This won't work until men collectively withhold sex to force women to change. Since that will never happen betas have three choices:

1. Become what they hate (douchebag alpha cad) and perpetuate the cycle
2. Remain a beta and wife up a used up whore
3. Say fuck it and let society crumble while playing video games

Are you surprised that so many men are picking option 3?
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>>131898823
Part of this is true. Another aspect was parents who either let them sit there all day, or didn't have the time/money to fund productive activities (I'll remind you that most of these things, like boy scouts or school sports, requires parents pay for it and provide transportation). Nothing annoys me more than parents who don't consider why thier kids have anti-social behavior when they don't encourage participation in social activities. Like a kid who won't respect a parent who they see disrespected all the time, they won't become social when they don't see thier parents putting value in social things.

Everyone has to take responsibility for their actions. By that, I,mean everyone.
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>>131899498
>If nobody cared, you'd already be dead.
this.
you have no idea how many people care (even if they care to watch you suffer they still watch you as you are theirs) :^)
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>>131897557
Just let it fucking crash, it's the best possible option to stop the degeneracy.
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>>131899047
You don't get it. We aren't surrendering. If anything we are fighting for a better future by bringing the collapse of society sooner. /pol rallies unceasingly about the degeneration and collapse of society. Why contribute positively to society when non participation tears it down further and faster. Better to bring it all to a head and watch it burn to rebuild anew then perpetuate the current paradigm?
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>>131898085
>Most of these people are in their late 20's and 30's right now, and they can't even afford rent.
We're in for another massive recession in the next couple years. Boomers have absolutely fucked the housing market by converting millions of affordable 'starter homes' into expensive rentals or flip houses. Even if millenials weren't all poor as fuck, it's become harder and harder to find an affordable home.

Home ownership is one of the simpler and more important ways for people to build equity. You get a house, keep up with payments, keep up with maintenance and do the odd upgrade now and then and after 5, 10, 20 years if you decide to sell the house you get a lot of the money you invested into it back (not all, but a lot). With rentals there's no equity, you leave with nothing, the money is fucking gone.

The oversaturation of rentals has left us with an entire generation of young people with no property, no equity, no investments, no savings, no serious assets, nothing... you can't fucking sustain an economy on people with no stake in said economy.
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>>131898399
Obviously, you can't expect women to fix dinner these days.
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beta males were slaves and then 'free' laborers.

alpha males were slave owners and then 'leaders'

alpha women were alpha male main spouses

beta women were sex slaves/breeding stock for more slaves


with the rise of automation, the role of beta males is shrinking. it makes sense for some of them to opt out/kill themselves off.
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Worked hard for 6 years, got nothing to show for it.
Retired at the age of 23, don't ever want a fucking job again. Now 28, doing just fine.
Tax is theft, work is slavery, society is a joke.
I don't care if you hate me. I don't care if I'm a drain on the system.

I know there isn't going to be a civil war any time soon. I'm not a paranoid fuck like the rest of you. All that matters to me is that I am fed, watered and winning my online matches.

Wagecucks will try to defend their slavery
but they can't
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>>131897557
>>131897988

GOD ALMIGHTY JESUS CHRIST HOLY SPIRIT

GAS THE KIKES
RACE WAR NOW
1488 1776
WORLD WIDE

#America #Freedom #Liberty

Our World. Our Time. Our Future.

A Holy American Empire to rule the world for 1000 years.

America, the Heartland. Jesus Country. Western Nations as satellite states. Maintaining individuality and autonomy. Retaining history. Australians stay Australian, but with American Freedoms and Liberties. British stay British, the French, French, etc.

Full Freedom and Liberty.

The biggest baddest empire this humanity has ever seen. Waiting for Jesus Christ to save us. With Holy Spirits help. God protects us from Jewry and any form of oppression.

This is so the European(white) male can live well. That's all its about. So we can start families and continue the works of our Father.

Retain our history, thousands of years in the making. A global effort by the commoner. For our greater good. We craft our future.

Remove Kike. Remove Foreigner.

One last War. Our World Forever After

S H A D I L A Y ~ B R O T H E R S
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>>131899335
I agree
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>>131899035


>using some retarded dog analogy to view the concept of interaction between an individual and a collective

The non-contributing beta is an existentiall threat to society, the consequences of his deeds will unfold long after his demise. The crumbling society is merely a bunch of fucking memes with no tangible roots in reallity for the beta at this point. Abusing society to get the bare existentiall minimum is easy as fuck if you live in the west. Loner life is easy in general if you can overcome the obvious dread of being lonely.
The politicians are obviously flipping their shit about all of this, but you have to try harder to convince someone here that playing videogames and telling everyone who wants your money is going to fuck you over you hook nosed vermin.
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>>131899047
>. If you decide you want to be an eternal child who just watches the world burn

It should burn
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I only make 20k a year, 25k in student loan debts and nothing to my name but about six guns. Although i dont legally have to pay my loans cause according to the government i dont make enough money to do so. More guns for me i guess. After i save up of course. Fuck society man, after all the hard work i put into current and previous jobs, I only manage to make 12.50/hr. If my effort isnt worth more than 12.50, then why should i strive for more? Nobody is willing to train anymore, nobody is willing to help. Take it as it is i guess
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>>131897557
Go fuckyourself old man im not working for your pension
ill be perfectly fine with my video games at 20 40 and 60
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>>131899393
It would probably be an Sr system that punishes you for trying
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>>131898595
Multiple times a day in fact.

When this thread 404's it will pop up again In about an hours time.

This will repeat for another 3 - 4 times just today.
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>>131897557

>tfw been slacking for almost two years
>tfw unemployement benefit about to expire

I guess I'll have to get another slave job for at least six months...
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>>131899814
Society is worse than a joke, kiddo. It's an elaborately planned Skinner box meant to reward you for towing the Communist Manifesto.
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>>131897557
>finding gainful employment

This where I am fucking up. I can't find a job to save my life. Bring back the jobs and a lot of us will come back.
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>>131897557
Disband socialism, reintroduce freedom.
I'm not wasting my time getting a job I hate only to have half I make stolen from me to pay for corrupted and inefficient systems and niggers.
On the same level, I'm not spending 3-4 hundreds k to buy land where regulations make impossible for me to build anything.
Most people seem to be okay with the current state of things tho, so maybe I'm just insane.
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>>131897557

What incentive do I really have to come back?

Divorce is not likely than not, and a super majority are unilaterally filed by women, thus turning me essentially into her slave.

The cost of housing has inflated through the fucking roof and the next economic crisis is close. Even if I was lucky enough to have a job that paid enough for me to keep my life together and save for a down payment, I'm far too aware that it'll disappear in the blink of an eye for me to want to commit to 30 fucking years of paying for it.

Every day I see the nervous doing nothing but demonizing everything about me-that I'm white, male, not gay, not a communist, anything I like that's even the slightest bit masculine and not full of Jewish tricks is "toxic". Why the fuck would I WANT to be a part of that society? It's too fucked to unfuck it. It has to burn before we can rebuild it.
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I'm overweight and video games are ruining my life. I'm such a shut in. I lost all my friends, and my part time job blows. Anyone have motivation to throw my way?
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>>131900200
Fuck my phone's autocorrect

Divorce is more likely than not*
Every day I see the media doing nothing but demonizing*
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>>131900207

Wait till it's dark and go jogging every other day. Get better diet, meaning less fat and sugar. Never stop, slowly you'll get better.
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>>131897557

"men"
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>>131900207
Get a full time job and buy guns. Its the only satisfaction i can get in this modern day. I also started reloading, so to go and shoot about 50 rounds through my 7mm-08 only cost 40 bucks, versus damn near 100 bucks off the shelf
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>>131898687
Hate to tell you dude, but that has no bearing on your credit, you fucked it up elsewhere
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>>131900207
Quit your part-time job.
Focus entirely on video games.
When the NEET uprising occurs (which it will soon) you will be on the winning side from day 1.
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>>131899758
Underrated
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>>131900207
>>131900419
This, and make extremely sure to avoid fat-oily things because they weight down your mood.
L-taurine supplements helped a lot with my mood too, it's pretty cheap too.
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Lol the west is dead. Enjoy the vidya.
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>>131898076
>Beta males are the backbone of civilization.
lol no
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>>131899778
>these days.
nothing new under the sun
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>>131897557
We're just turning into Japan.
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dont reply to op he is a datamining NSA nigger. many of these replies are bots using replies from previous threads.
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>>131900207
Do a term of service
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>>131898076
Thanks for that screencap.
Was a good read.
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>>131897557
I have a personal anecdote about how to fix this: I used to be an extremely depressed college dropout. I ended up in a mental institution. There I met the most beautiful girl you could imagine. She was insanely smart and spoke 5 languages. And she was crazy in a good way: She wanted to exterminate all Muslims as I do! Interestingly, she is also Jewish (yes, I use /pol/ and am in love with a Jewess.), the only one I've ever met. Anyway, she is the reason I started to improve myself. I wanted to get her, I wanted her to have my children, I wanted to provide for her. My depression was cured overnight, something a ton of drugs and ECT could not do in years. I returned to school, got my bachelor's degree, got a job, learned new languages etc. etc. I will finish my master's in a STEM field in a year, and I have two years of relevant experience in the field now. Quite well for someone who was a suicidal NEET a few years ago.

All this because of a grill. That's what young men need. I can't even start to describe the motivation and the energy a girl can give you. It's like I became a completely different person. I know many of you think there are no good and virtuous girls left, but you're wrong. They exist, and they're just as unhappy as you are. They can't find masculine men any more than you can find feminine girls. But if you do find each other, you will feel like you've never felt before. Don't kill yourselves. Start improving yourselves instead. Make sure you're worthy of them once you one day do meet such unicorns.

p.s. She looks kind of like pic related, but way prettier.
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>>131897557
Real life needs to not bankrupt young men at every corner for us to participate in it again.
You boomers had it so fucking easy.
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>>131900470
Well, that's what the fuckers at the kike savings and loan said.
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>>131897557
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>>131897557
>they will kill themselves at 40
Actually they will continue playing vidya and having fun until they die. They may not ever retire but they will find a way to be happy.
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You can have a job and still play videogames

duh
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>>131897557

>Be white male
>Pour your heart and soul into a career
>not promoted because not a woman or a shitskin
>Constant HR complains about you because you smiled at a woman
>Only women that treat you like a human are hispanic and asian women
>What's that? You don't have 15 years of experience as a fry cook? Fuck off, whitey. Welcome on board Jamal/pablo.

As a white male unless you went to college you are fucked. If your parents didn't pay for your college good luck going into massive debt for your degree and good luck finding a job that will net you enough to even rent a room and pay for your upkeep throughout schooling.

If you are white, unless your parents are rich you're being fucked in the ass by a society that will treat you like the world has been handed to you on a platter at birth which is so far from the truth it makes me want to grind my fucking teeth to powder
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>>131898687
Fuck credit. My landlord just invented bullshit to try and gouge me. I'm going bankrupt and IDGAF. If anything this just stops me from falling for the interest meme.
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>>131900207

hey anon, I used to be depressed a lil and ate crap daily, I got really out of shape and felt bad about myself.

get a gym membership. little by little you can dig yourself out of the hole. try to eat better, drink lots of water, and exercise daily or when you can. you dont have to lift weights, cardio is good too.

it takes work but it's worth it: you can do it. I still enjoy games, but I feel much better since I got in shape.
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>>131900749
You're a Russian, you wouldn't understand anything about civilisation. Most of your menfolk drink themselves to death in post-communist rust-towns, or oligarch-sponsored resource camps, the rest are Muscovite criminals, and all of them are trash. Literally the only reason Russia stays afloat is by exporting its natural wealth West, much like the Gulf states, because you faggot vodka niggers couldn't keep a civilisation going on your own.
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>>131900749
You really have no clue how society works. You think that one alpha dude in charge of a hundred beta laborers is the backbone of society? Jesus you are retarded. Society doesn't need the alpha for anything besides herding the betas. Even without the alpha the betas would be fine. Betas are like cows. They just stand around doing their thing. The alpha on the other hand is nothing without the betas. Alphas are literally leaches in modern society.
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>>131901347
Tolstoy.
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>>131899758
That's true, though i'd say 7-10 years, unless you want to stay there. Boomers development fucked the spacing as well, so the option of buy acreage is fucked as well.
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>>131901347
This should be the Wikipedia entry on Russia
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>>131901501
Yeah, I read War and Peace. Notice how even then the Russian didn't have his own culture, but stole everything from the French. It was the whole shtick of that bydlo nation from the beginning of its history. They'd still be Mongol rape dolls if not for Westernising under Ivan the Terrible.
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>>131897557
there is no turning back retard , you are all modern slaves now. get a fucking grip thats why we dont want that bullshit , ill rather live under a bridge than work 9to5 just so i can sleep eat and have 1-2hours freetime inbetween except for weekends unless on weekends shlomoskehelstein also wants me to work without pay.

ye dreamlife.
fuck off idiot.
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>>131897557
Video games makes me forget about being depressed. Nothing wrong playing them while also having a job.
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>>131901882
Charlemagne.
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>>131901219
Interest is fucking usury to highest degree. For things like housing, it just ensures these kikes can milk you for decades while actually retaining legal ownership, and you end up paying another 20,000 on top of it for the trouble.
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>>131902051
>Charlemagne
Had nothing to do with literally anything East of the Oder.

Are you avin a giggle, you convict scum?
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>>131902033
Don't become complacent. It's far better to be a hero in real life than in a video game. If you must play video games, play something educational with a foreign language UI. That way you'll improve yourself even while 'wasting time'.
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>>131897557
First off, end no fault divorce
Secondly, end false rape accusations
Lastly, stop denigrating men and let them be builders, society has stripped that away from them so they have no identity left and idle all their time away as a result because they have no incentive to do anything constructive given that it is rigged against themselves.
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>>131897801
Beta turn violent past a certain point.

In countries where there is a lot of polygamy (ie Middle East and Africa) and so a large part of men are guaranteed to never build a family (which is a biological imperative), so what to they do ? They rebel against society, here for example with Boko Haram:
>https://www.economist.com/news/special-report/21688587-young-single-idle-males-are-dangerous-work-and-wedlock-can-tame-them-men-and-mayhem

Today with hypergamy we aren't really far from this situation because only a minority of men have access to sex and a relationship with the majority of women.
If it wasn't for escapism and western comfort of living you would already have a lot more dangerous society, happily there are video games and porn but it won't last eternally because as you grow older you feel more and more despair with this lifestyle which turns either in suicidal thoughts or anger.
The societal decay is real and it could bring down everything with it.
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>>131901882
>but stole everything from the French.
...
You're a fucking British man! You are practically French yourself.
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>be me
>graduate with a STEM degree a year ago
>landed a temp job
>temp job ended after 4 months
>can't find another job
>too depressed to even play video games
>just drink all the time to ease the sad

The problem is that there AREN'T jobs out there for young white men
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>>131902455
>you must self-improve non-stop until you die
Stop it with this meme.
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>>131902532
>societal decay is real and it could bring down everything with it.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with this scenario. Even if a majority of civilization got wiped out in some kind of self created apocalyptic collapse mankind will rise again.
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>>131899335
Obviously, but simply stating the obvious isn't going to help. The communists have been working their 1,000 year plan for a century now.

And what do you have to offer? A simple basic bitch complaint.

Enjoy your genocide, dummy.
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>>131902821
Why? It's true. Well, it's not an absolute must, but you'll be happier. Especially if you find someone for whom you want to improve yourself.
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>>131900928
How old are you anon ?
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>>131903046
Recently turned 27.
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Welfare for people who refuse to work was a mistake
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>>131902821
Yet another retarded post by a Britfag. Go choke on a sausage retard.
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>>131897801
Let me guess, you consider yourself an alpha despite posting on a puerto rican anime warehouse
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listen
and listen good
would you honestly do some sort of WORK THAT YOU dont want to do and be miserable or sit at home in comfort and safety and play video games and have fun? it's a no brainer
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>>131901528
The problem with buying lots or acreages now is that Boomers have fucked the new housing market as well. Even if you can find a nice bit of land, most contractors these days will flat out refuse to take a job if you're not building some obscene $700K, 5000 sq ft home. If you just want a little farmhouse or a small minimal traditional or whatever you've got to either find a smaller, more desperate contractor or build it yourself (which is a fucking nightmare).
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>>131902388
Are you stupid? England is West of France.
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>>131897557
>WE. MUST. DO. SOMETHING.
we did, we created feminism so that our women may take the role of wage slaves while we enjoy our lives
we told them it would be "liberating" and they were dumb enough to believe it
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>>131900749
it's true though.
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>>131897557
Nah faggot just let me play my video games in peace. I don't care about women
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by not telling us that contracted 6mo position is a great deal while we are drowning in student loan debt
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I'm at the age now where even fixing my life would net me the discarded scraps chad left behind with mental-baggage galore. Just let me die in peace.
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>>131897557
Whats the insentive to work these days? If you dont have the education youre pretty much doomed to make shit money, work long hours and never own a home or live a comfortable life. Also, everything is dependent on having duel incomes but the high divorce rates coupled with favorable rulings for women makes people not want to even try. The scary thing is this is only beginning. Gender quotas and this 'white male' hating shit are going to cripple an entire generation of men.
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>>131903686
Seriously, almost everyone I know is unemployed or temp/contract as fresh grads. It's the new entry level, but there's no plan to actually hire anyone as a permanent employee.

I did a full 2-year internship in college and employers don't even consider it to be professional experience.
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Not pursuing every available opportunity in your 20s hurts you in every single category in your 30s and beyond. Being underemployed working less than 40 hours a week hurts your social security earnings. Not socializing and masturbating in isolation causes you to fetishize your own cock. watching male-female porn causes you to train your mind to be aroused at seeing another mans cock, and it turns you into a cuck that would rather see any female you do have with another man instead of exclusively yours. yes you can still fuck her normally but that doesnt really get the dopamine going. You want to see a big fat cock inside her...you want to be the observer like youve always been when youve been so turned on you couldnt stop jacking off watching the couples on your screen. You turn yourself into a progressing faggot and cuck with your porn life, folks. You lose out on the best years for earning money and expierience at a job. You fall so far behind socially no female in your peer group wants to deal with being your mommy. TYou atrophy your core muscles while sitting on your ass for days at a time playing video games. All around its very destructive. Eventually you will only be able to relate to mid teens and youll end up groping your nieces in your 40s.

Get up. Get out. Get a job. Get laid.
Before its too late.
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>>131902820
This desu.
>Graduate college
>Young white male
>Applying to jobs
>Most entry level expect atleast 2 years experience
>Most other jobs won't even tell me I didn't get the interview.
>land a contracted position that gets strung out for 2 years. Finish LITERALLY fixing some major issues with the companies software and ticket resolution process... immediately shown the door.
>Ive been unemployed for 3 months now and just got a call from the company saying "hey anon, we have another contracted position we think you would be a great fit for!!!"

Fucking assholes. Too bad I live hours away now or I might consider being their bitch for another year.
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>>131897557
>But how the fuck can we reverse this trend?
Either convert to islam or revoke women's rights and bring back slut shaming.
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>>131899035
They are only raising alarms because men dropping out means they don't marry or date women or raise their children. It is just another way they are trying to force men to take care of women and Tyrone's child. They won't allow men to not spend money on them.
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>>131904064
The last one would work the fastest and is already in effect.
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>>131897557
It's worth pointing out that in the UK unemployment is steadily dropping, and that includes unemployment of young people, specifically the 16-24 range is dropping.

http://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/SN05871

And of that range (download the PDF) there is actually more unemployed females, so men are 16-24 are employed at a greater rate than same age women.

What is actually happening is that men are playing video games and retreating away from women, basically because the juice ain't worth the squeeze. The sexodus article by Milo covered this, women's expectations are higher than ever because they want to date someone that makes at least as much money as them or more. But the qualities men want in women, femininity, chastity, loyalty, they've all gone away.

All these articles try and dump on men and say they're useless, but the fact is that men are working, they've got careers, they're saving for homes, they're supporting themselves and making a good life for themselves. They're just not interested in women anymore, marriage represents insane financial and legal risk, children even more so.
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>>131902821
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>>131897557

Why work hard for some Chad fucker?
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>>131898076
>incoherent rambling
to ensure "genetic reproductive success" i just need to fuck some random bich real quick.
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>>131903391
Exactly. The pricing is outrageous, these contractors do everything they can to squeeze the money out, from refusing to build anything but big projects to delays and over priced shit material. Always over budget, rarely quality. Building additions yourself is hard enough with the coding laws and for how long it takes, which you alphabet to pay for, and you have to hire out your wiring and plumbing anyway.
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>>131904050
Always apply even if you don't meet the minimum or preferred. It's literally an HR tactic to justify not hiring people for any reason and cover their asses against discrimination. It also helps them negotiate down your salary because you're ''not really qualified, but we'll take a chance''.

I hate HR so much, it's women and minorities with fluffy non-STEM degrees telling everyone else they're unqualified because they're butt hurt.
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>>131898486
Yes we do. This picture sums it up. How long until the effects of hiring less qualified, suitable people for jobs happen. We see it in things like video games already, but what about when it spills over into actually inportant things like sciences or institutions like the police and army.
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>>131897557

if women would just stay home and let men work there wouldn't be this problem
how long till women get tired of supporting men?
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>>131897557
>WE. MUST. DO. SOMETHING.

CANCEL.NO-FAULT.DIVORCE.AND.FEMINISM

MEN.WILL.NOT.SERVE.A.SOCIETY.FILLED.WITH.UNTRUSTWORTHY.WHORES
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>>131904004
You're full of shit. We're hiring college grads to entry level jobs in IT every day.
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>die in their 40s
i wish
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>>131903017
This makes sense. I just don't see the need to devote every single hour when I'm not sleeping to 'improving myself'. There has to be down-time as well. The original anon you were responding to was right on with
>Video games makes me forget about being depressed. Nothing wrong playing them while also having a job.
You have time to improve, and you can also distract yourself for some time. It's important to remain in balance.

>>131903218
>>131904208
as for you retards
>expects others to constantly self-improve
>while shitposting on an Iranian butterfly catching forum
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>>131904512
The picture undermines what your saying however...
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I have a 2.1 in Electrical Engineering, I've sent out more than 2 dozen applications so far this year for advertised jobs, each one with a purpose-written cover letter and good references, and that's just counting the applications for proper career jobs, it doesn't include all the shitty little warehouse and retail jobs I've applied for. I'm doing my part, now it's up to society either to employ me or fuck off and leave me alone.
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>>131904672
>You're full of shit, the place I work at is representative of the market!!
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>>131897557
Oh wow really insightful article from Sept 2016. Really makes me think back to 10 years ago when the same issue existed.
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>>131904323
How in the fuck was anything in that image incoherent, you putrescent Turkish rapebaby?

Also, what you describe cannot be construed as reproductive success, because having children out of wedlock like that ensure there is no continuity to your social and cultural status. Genetic legacy is only half of the equation, heredity is more than just that.

But you wouldn't understand that, Ahmed.
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>>131904672
>cherry pick literally the only industry still hiring
I know I should have majored in CS/informatics etc.

I guess I should say everyone I know who majored in a real science is in that situation
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>>131898399

Once a ho, always a ho.

There is no such thing as a reformed slut. Never pay for something other guys got for free.
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>>131897557

YOU MUST GIVE THEM JOBS
thats right, skip past the job hunting and just give them a job without them asking for it.

> but muh initiative
Listen son, do you want to put them to work or not? If you dont, then stop complaining about it.

And it'll take $15 an hour to do it too. Video games are alot more fun than work, or the money you get from it.
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Yes, I should join a workforce that will bemoan and demean me simply for being male, white, and straight.

I should then take my earned capital and spend it on a mate whom is highly unlikely to stay loyal or faithful to me in a society wherein she is placed higher on the totem pole for simply being female.

The simple truth of men is that we can enjoy life without the pressure of finding mates and reproducing. Men don't lose their shit and jump off a bridge when they hit 35, have no partner, and no children. We just keep finding shit to do that makes for an enjoyable life.

Women on the other hand tend to deteriorate and ultimately destroy anything they've been chosen to lead. As of late, women have been chosen to lead social values. Those results have spoken for themselves.

I don't know why so many men fear the collapse. Men will thrive in the collapse because men build and prosper. It's the women who will find themselves utterly crushed under it.
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>>131904121
You still need to revoke women's rights, not all but most of them because women now have this princess mentality where they demand equality but if anyone tells them shit a wall of men must instantly surround her and attack one one telling her shit. Redo laws so women don't abuse the ever living fuck out of it like considering "sexual harassment" as some ugly white nerd telling them hello. Also cut off welfare for single mothers.
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>>131902913
>There is absolutely nothing wrong with this scenario.

There would be nothing wrong with this scenario if it did happen in our youth when we could rebuild, start fresh and settle new bases for our civilization, but it won't happen before at least 30 years or even more, by this time I will already be in my 50s, hell it can even happen after that.

I don't know for you but I don't want to remain a zombie waiting all his life for an eventual miraculous happening that will change everything and finally give my life an opportunity to build and so a meaning to my existence.
It's hard to find drive and fight the rotten but we must do it, I don't want to be the one who gave up, even if you are alone, depressed, poor and unloved right now you still carry an heritage worth to try for, search for it.
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>>131897557
It's because modern women aren't worth the effort. Sure, after you've gone to the effort of speaking to her first, wooing her, paying for her meals, treating her nicely, holding the door for her, comforting her on a hard day and giving her plenty of attention, maybe then she'll give you some pity sex. And if she gets bored with you and decides to go chase some more Chad cock, she can clean house and take your children away. The game is rigged from the very start and the only winning move is not to play.

I'm going to keep my nice little pile of money, save up for the house I want, continue playing video games, continue indulging in pornography, continue playing pornographic games and eventually paying for a surrogate pregnancy when I'm ready to be a parent. This is a waiting game and women are going to run out of time before I do.
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>>131904805
I struggled finding my first EE job. Nobidd fucking contacted me for like 5 months then I met a woman at a networking event who had a mother that was a state legislator and had contact with power company on the area. Next day they contacted me and I just got an offer yesterday. It's who you know nobody cares about degrees anymore.
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grow up and turn yourself into a reliable, stable male or stay forever as a manchild blaming everyone but yourself for your own inability. It's not the boomers, it's not the women, it's not "chad". It's you.
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>>131898292
the only thing you can fix is yourself
telling everyone else they need to fix themselves up is self indulgent and pathetic. Fixed men = fixed women, fixed women = fixed men. The only place the cycle starts is with you.

A society will reform when its men do.
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>>131904904
Below a certain intelligence level, everything becomes "incoherent rambling".
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>>131897557
>WE. MUST. DO. SOMETHING.
Turn society back to what it was some 20 years ago.
No sandniggers, no dragonkins, fewer niggers and fewer faggots.
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>>131899664

Not really, because becoming good with women requires facing a lot of rejection. Most men don't have the balls for that.
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>>131904512
Didn't bioware hire some slut cosplayer to be lead facial animation developer of that new mass effect game?
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>>131904805
Your GPA is nigger tier. Get it above 3.0
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>>131903357
Who the hell told you life is meant to be fun? Nothing worthwhile is easy, but the rewards are profound, not transient.
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>>131897801
Literally nothing, not that the fags on this forum will admit it
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>>131901347

This.
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>>13189947
>You don't get to complain that it's burning.
I'm fucking not. In fact I contribute the minimum because I want it to burn. I'm not a cuckservtive cucking in order to hold it together or a boomer selling everthing in sight to buy just a few more years.
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>>131904455
I do anyway. 90% of the time, if you do that your resume won't even see a human. Big companies use programs that sort qualified and unqualified resumes.

Nothing pisses me off more then the fucking contract positions. My gf is a Petro Engineer and is even getting fucked over with contract positions.

I fucking hate big businesses and want to start my own but due to the gov. proping up big corps, the start up required is massive for me and I already have just under 100k in loans. No bank is gonna give me more

>College was a colossal waste of my time and money
>I wish I had just gone into OCS and became a Green Beret
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>>131905064
This is a healthy attitude, embrace the collapse. What I've been doing is working on my career and getting enough money together to be self sufficient, make sure I have a house paid off ASAP, make sure I've got savings and assets spread around in different places.

When everythin finally starts to go to shit, the men who remained stoic and strong will thrive like mad.

Women are fucked, but that's OK because they made their own bed and will have to lay in it, all we can do is find the best seat to watch the collapse from and enjoy the entertainment that comes from the chaos.
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>>131897557
Sorry the culture and nearly everything it generates is garbage. I will not participate and work to make it succeed. I would rather subvert and destroy the culture absolutely. Also Battlegrounds is the best fps in years so fuck off.
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listen, the worst thing you can do is act like it's all over.

don't give up, the world is there: take it by the balls. trump beat hillary clinton who had the ENTIRE MEDIA in her pocket and spent 1.2 BILLION DOLLARS.

if trump can beat the odds, why not you?
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>>131904011
Probably the gayest thing i've read on /pol/ bar none.
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>>131897557

The answer is obvious. Fix society. Impose harsh prison sentences for females that falsely accuse men of rape. Reform divorce laws. Outlaw alimony and give fathers parental rights so that marriage isn't a life destroying threat for men. Outlaw affirmative action and all quotas. Make America a meritocracy. Then and only then will this society be worthy of survival.
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>>131904696
Just be a man.
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>>131904672
Not a fucking chance, and if its true you are probably paying them half what they should be making.
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>>131899047
Motivated people are the ones that have fucked this world. Religious assholes are motivated. Wall Street crooks are motivated. So are serial killers and Oil companies. Perhaps it's a good idea for the human race to be less motivated for a while. Might do the world some good.
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>>131905400

It's not a 2.1 GPA, we don't use GPA here, it's a second class first honours. There's no 1:1 conversion, but it's somewhere in the mid 3 range.
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>>131905400
Depending on where the curve was set, IF there was a curve it might be just a little below average.

My department always set the average at a 2.4, which sucked dick. I'm proud we didn't suffer from grade inflation, but it's a disadvantage when most schools set averages at like a fucking 3.0
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>>131897557
>they are staying indoors watching porn and playing video games instead of going out, finding gainful employment, finding a wife, buying a house and having children

What if I told you that you can do all of those things
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>>131897557
How many jobs are there to go around when you have outsourcing, legal and illegal third world immigration, and automation to deal with? I just found out millenials are now the largest generation. There are not enough jobs to go around for everyone and it looks like it will only get worse. Don't blame the guys in their basements playing video games. All this was engineered by someone else before they were even born. I don't have answers for you I just know things are not right and it really bothers me.
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>>131905191
Well you have sense. As long as you have money you can do anything in this world. Just make sure you have a son with your surrogate because the biggest cuck thing you can do is raise a daughter. Think about it. You raise a daughter trying to teach her he right things, making sure she's fit and eats a healthy diet only to have some other man destroy her pussy and use her as a cumdump.
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Alot of women, whiteknights and boomers dont seem to grasp that average or below average faced women arent willing to date average or below averaged faced men, and this is more of a modern thing. They spend their entire teens and twenties fucking men that are better looking than them, because men are willing to have one night stands with women that are below them in looks. Then by the time they're 30, they have this delusional dream of a male model sweeping them up and marrying them, but in the end it doesnt happen, because chad settled down with an attractive woman on the same looks level as him. They thought they were going to marry a chad, because this is who they were getting fucked by, but chad was just using them as a cum vessel.

And now we have entire generations of delusional, childless, average faced women that whored their enitre youth away, and wonder why no one wants to settle down with them. They turn around and blame men for whats going on, not realising it was their delusional, whoreish, hypergamous behaviour that got them in this position in the first place.
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Reading this thread makes me realize how fortunate i am to land a full time job out of college.

Still a disgusting neet at heart and wish i could drop out of society every day. My honor dictates i start a family and be successful though.
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>>131899664
women and men are in balance. Blaming a gender will not help. Women are sluts because men let them be. Collectively withholding sex is absurd, it'll just mean the women whore harder for the men who aren't withholding the sex. Alpha male traits are masculine, not douchebag. If you believe that you're pathetic. You have the freedom to do whatever you want.

Betas don't innately hate alphas, they want to be them. Their hatred mostly comes from jealousy. Also you don't have to be a douche to get a nice woman. If you don't believe that, then you need a little more sun.
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>>131900928
Problem is though finding a mate these days is based on luck. For example, say you go out and see a girl by herself. You start chatting her up and ask her out. At this point the ball is in her court. She decides whether she wants to go out with you or reject you. Most men who have a woman they are intimate with don't know how lucky they are. Their women could have easily rejected them but they did not. It's up to the woman to decide whether a guy gets a gf/wife/fuckbuddy.
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(((Jobs)))
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>>131905439
Who told you life was meant to be anything?
You think plants grow out of the ground for a reason? nope, they just grow.

If you feel the reward of money is worth donating 8 hours of your day every day for, then go ahead. If you gain fulfillment from this, then I am genuinely happy for you.

For me the pursuit of fun is its own reward, and it is fulfillment enough.
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>>131897557
>17 last year
>Finally got a job after months of searching.
>Cozy job in a ice cream parlor
>Made friends with a couple of dudes.
>After work on my 3rd day, the whole staff carpooled and went to El Charos.
>I had my truck so I got 4 people in mine.
>Night manager is super liberal, she got in the passenger seat.
>On my dash, I had a trump bumper sticker and a MAGA hat
>I know she saw them.
>2 days later, get laid off for "Unprofessional behavior"

Lesson learned, never work with fuck wits like her and find a job in manual labor.
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>>131897557
>instead
Last I checked playing video games doesn't pay your wage.
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>>131905813
have you ever spent so much time on 4chan that you began to believe your own worth is a jewish construct
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>>131905197
this is spot on.
Who you know, not what you know.
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>>131904793
No, it proves gender quotas etc means hiring the less qualified candidate on a massive scale. Double the amount of men were hired when the gender of the applicant wasnt known. Now think about the effect of having a 50/50 or more gender split.
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>>131905948
>manager
>she
and there's your problem
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>>131905227
Oh fuck off, the reason we refuse to become this "reliable, stable male" you want us to be is because we've all seen what the rewards for being a "reliable, stable male" are in this fucked up society. A marriage that starts dying the moment it is taken, a cheating, unfaithful whore of a wife, a divorce, child support payments and alimony, alienated kids, and dying alone anyway, even after you did EVERYTHING right. You gonna tell me all those guys who got fucked over deserved it? Really? Each and every one of those broken men simply wasn't a good enough man, is that it? You fucking retarded child! You have no idea how this shit works, and if you ever succeed in becoming what you describe as the male ideal, you're in for a WORLD of hurt, because the current legal and societal system doesn't give a single flying fuck how alpha, how reliable or strong you are. So keep on telling yourself and others that injustice doesn't exist, that everyone only ever gets what they deserve, that the world is basically a just place, and that people in general, and women in particular will respond to your virtue by being virtuous in return, you naive fucking cretin. There's one born every minute, and the world needs its suckers.

Good fucking luck, twerp, you're gonna need it.
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>>131906099
what are you implying
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>>131906027
Are those people keepin u down?
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It doesn't help that:

1. Women are pushed/favored in all facets of life -- especially in such things like divorce courts
2. Jobs moving out
3. Lack of incentives with the growth of cost-of-living

People ask how to fix the numale problem instead of asking what caused it and how to fix THAT.
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>>131906033
Hmm first pic said that blind hiring would excentuate gender disparity though, did it now?
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>>131897557
>but when they hit their 40's and they realize that they have nothing

They will have everything they worked for. That's better than divorced men that lose their house, their children, half their bank account and forced to pay alimony and child support.
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>>131905948
Pssst.... fuckwits are everywhere. No job is safe.
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>>131906140
what does that have to do with what we are talking about.?
Shit attempt at b8 m8
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>>131900749

Russian doesn't understand all Nazis were Betas.
All bolsheviks were omegas.
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>>131905568
anybody who wasn't retarded knew literally any republican would have won

the fact that it was close says more about trump being fucking terrible than having low chances
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>>131906171
I think there's more to the discussion than that, it's not like you can go up to some male and ask him why he is so pathetic and get a genuine answer, let alone for him to be able to pinpoint one of those 3 reasons.

Makes you wonder what he'd actually say, being so demoralized as to disregard his possible future as a successful guy.

Only individuals can feir their numale problems. I do agree that it's worth figuring out why though
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>>131906049
The worst manager I ever had was a she.

She didn't even have a degree of any kind, and didn't attend college. She was in charge of 10 people, half twice her age with doctoral degrees, at 23. This was a highly technical department at a big deal place.

>When things were difficult, she would cry in her office and tell everyone about it for sympathy
>She would literally yell at people
>Didn't know how to use MS Word/Office
>Barely could spell
>Would talk about her 'cute ass', followed by saying if anyone else said that she would 'sue them for harassment, lol XD jkkkkkk'

It was pure hell and I still don't understand how she got the position. We all hated her so much and would get lunch together every day and never invite her, which was childish, but warranted.
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>>131897557
Allow us to kill entitled, covetous shit-skins, of course, and pay us an equitable sum per ear we present.
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>>131905400
that's not his GPA dumbfuck, the scores from highest to lowest are 1.1 2.1 2.2 pass fail. Need 1.1 or 2.1 to do a masters.
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>>131906099
Cant wait to be exploited for maximum efficiency to befit only the global 1% and welfare recipients. Wage cucks when will they ever learn. Oh wait they never will.
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>>131898313
Agreed. The only game I still play on occasion is GTA 5. Beating subhumans to death with a hammer and attempting to purge their God-forsaken minority communities is very relaxing for me. Hopefully someday we'll get to purge the real world as well.

vernichtungskrieg when, if not now?
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>>131898275
That was the rat utopia experiment, and the "NEET" rats were called "the beautiful ones" I cant remember the name of the guy who did it though. There are a lot of parallels between the lack of societal roles and behavioral sink when you look at society today.
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>>131906478
Get the fuck off of my website.
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>>131906379
Dont shy away from personal responsibility by claiming that you need know special magical people in order to find your way in life. Relevant?
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>>131897557
maybe a better world... and work u can live of... cause who in the right mind wants to be a slave!!!
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Gee its almost like adding billions of chinks and poo in the loos to the global economy to add ten cents per unit of contribution margin to your operating profit has a negative effect on your domestic work force. Who could seen this coming.
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>>131906382
Bolsheviks were Jews. Their position in society doesn't matter because they were part of a different society
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If I werent rich, I think I would join the army and then become a mercenary in Africa. Get paid to shoot nogs. Maybe buy a helicopter like that one Safrican madman and just fight entire wars by myself because nogs are too incompetent to even aim properly.

Certainly I'd move abroad, theres little to no reason to stay in the West as a bottom feeder.
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>>131897557

If this makes them content and happy then why not? This mgtow stuff only hurts ugly women (usually feminists). These low tier women should be happy living with 20 cats. I mean that's what they want, they keep pushing feminism and destroying the household with unfair marriage and divorce laws.
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>>131906264
Of course not. I mean we all knew the gender bias was bullshit anyway right? This blind hiring was done in the Australians government btw and was literally shut down as soon as these results came out. It literally proves women are already more likely to get hired, regardless of qualifications over men.
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>>131905181
Nah. I am doing fine mate. You need to stop shilling for (((them))). If faggots like you would just face reality and stop being wage slaves in a system you claim to be against the tide would turn quick. Stop being a good goy. Stop buying the bullshit. Start the fight today ffs. Be a man, drop out of society and let it rot.
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>>131906489
Sounds like hell
what came of it?
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>>131897557
Fembots, but you're going to try to ban them because you're retarded
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>>131899830

How the fuck does your flag say DEUS VULT? (forgive me, lord, for using your name in vain.)

If you don't understand that "American Freedoms" is what has doomed us all, its our greatest enemy.

Go read some Evola, 1488er cuck.
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>>131898523

spotted the problem
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>>131897557
So?
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hey I tried to join the Canadian military but was not accepted so don't give me this crap that 20yos
don't want to fucking participate. society is going down the fucking toilet and from the way we are treated along with the lack of help,direction and mentors my generation found it easier to say fuck it and enjoy life.

st this point I refuse to spot playing my computer games.
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>>131906648
>newfag filth making demands of anybody
worst candidate in the history of the united states and trump barely wins

what an astounding event
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>>131905064
EXACTLY. You think the gazillion make-work jobs and .gov female leechs will do well in a real economic collapse? lol.
ANY man that is fit, armed & employed will benifit greatly. Liberal whores will be the biggest losers of all.
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>>131897557
>But how the fuck can we reverse this trend?
Incentivize a reversal?
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>>131903201
Pull your head out of your ass. Stop sucking corporate dick. Welfare for corporations and unchecked legal/illegal immigration are far bigger mistakes then gibs for citizens.
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>>131906656
>Implying what I said isn't true.....

Show me were I blame them for anything or implied they were holding me down.
I merely stated the truth. In todays job market its more important to know people then it is to know what you are doing.

>Resumes get automatically parsed in todays world. Most don't even get looked at by a human
> Job Market over saturated.
>Everyone has a degree and its now basically meaningless
>The best way to get an interview is to be referred by a current employee.

These are all facts. If you don't think this is wrong, I can't help you.
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>>131906877

Christ fembots are only going to make it worse. The only reason 90% of men participate AT ALL is to gain access to women. Thats already eroding fast due to porn, VR porn, excellent vidya.

When sexbots hit the market, men are just going to be indoors 24/7 with their dicks plugged into their wafius.

Maybe they work 2 hours a week, off the books, as a sex bot technician flushing jizz from all the filters.
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>>131898823
They are creating a society, one that minirities and womyn will rule and all opression by people like you will be dealt with by the socialist utopia, the new society is the left, so like it or not get used to it. Or at least thats what it looks like, though im hoping that this resurgence of the right wing will show othedwise
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>>131899783
You are 3alpha5me
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>>131906818
Yeah, because dropping out is going so well for Nazis

You fags do realize that by not participating society is moving along without you, don't you?

The best way to tear the system down is from within. It's why the beer hall putsch didn't work, but when Hitler seized the chancellorship he took over the country. You'll never get anything done with society at large if you aren't in the society.
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>>131906821
She got overwhelmed and quit.

But then decided she didn't want to quit.

But she had already quit, so she took a lesser position but still TRIED to be the acting manager until a replacement was found.

That didn't go over well with anyone, and she finally really quit when we stopped obeying her.
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>>131906893
Could you succinctly explain what about American Freedom has doomed us all? Surely Evola would have pinned this decline on the abandonment of spirituality
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>>131906939
Nope. Never done it, never will. If I were going to date someone, she's paying for her own meals, opening her own doors and gets my attention if she can earn it.
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>>131905191

>paying for her meals, treating her nicely, holding the door for her, comforting her on a hard day and giving her plenty of attention

Are you seriously doing this? No wonder she'll rather fuck Chad than you. You're the typical nice guy/beta.
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>>131897557
Cute gendered assumption, ticking suicide time bombs, i gotta remember that one

You faggot shill bitch that keeps posting this - listen the fuck up. The human species is evolving and you don't understand the narrative of how this intertwines with this issue. It's very cute that you interpret this issue from such a critical perspective that goes on to assume many damaging social norms, however what you don't interpret is the changing nature of the human being that's currently occurring in this generation and future generations, and the future of this.

If you are so much of a fucking imbecile to not consider this issue, and how it relates to other subjects of discipline, such as politics, social sciences, psychology, meme's, biology, gender, sexuality, transhumanism, war, and history, as well other areas of study, you may come to a number of conclusions.

But clearly the OP doesnt care about this and just wants to make men sound like a bunch of videogame playing virgin nerds because they're one of those mad mental nut job feminists , the wrong kind.
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>>131898595
this
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>>131906590
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Calhoun

The similarities between the mouse utopia experiments and the herbivore/grasseater phenomena in Japan is quite scary.

Both have overcrowding but otherwise plenty of resources. Both had a population boom, followed by a crash. The men became uninterested in sex, they became interested in self grooming and generally supporting their existence but not reproducing.

The appearance of MGTOW in the west is closely following this, men just walking away because society has nothing to offer them anymore.
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>>131906967
t. boomer
Reagan sucked and sank the US gramps
Stop whining and go watch your sportsball
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>>131897557
Make marriage a viable deal through taking away women's right to vote
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>>131899670
ok I take responsibility for my actions....now what???! i know I've fucked up my last 6 years (21) of live but DONT FUCKING KNOW WHAT STEP 2 IS.

until recently I've not even mentor so maybe my life will turn around.
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>>131898076

>implying africans are alpha

Wew kike
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>>131904696
>Implying a person can't post on /pol and be improving their life
You Britfags are such fucking idiots.
>inb4 improving oneself in a manner that runs contrary to mainstream socety's wage slave existence doesn't count
nah
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>>131907238
See
>>131907194
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>>131899498
A job is worth what you make of it, I've received a vast amount of knowledge from working jobs to the point that companies have sent me abroad and I'm climbing in status. That's part of the problem today, weak work ethic has created weak men with no discipline or consistency unable to handle hardship or endure what is tiring and exhausting to provide an elevated lifestyle.
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wives, basically

but pretty much nothing else will do anything
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>>131897557
I have a job but I can't into human interaction for shit. What do normies do all day?
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>>131898823
>schools punish you for defending yourself
>courts give custody of kids to women in divorce
>selective service

Nice try, faggot. I ain't falling for that BS.
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The easiest generation made sure the following generation would be the worst possible.

Fuck boomers.
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>>131906818
You aren't fighting if you are doing nothing, also thanks for your advice but I will keep trying, not for (((them))) but for myself, that's a good enough reason and a better strategy for me.
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>>131907291
>Implying I like reagan
lmao nice knee jerk retard

US hasn't had anything decent since WW1, Eisenhower was almost satisfactory though

keep sucking trumps dick though
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>>131898275
>>131906590

rats of NIMH

http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-doomed-mouse-utopia-that-inspired-the-rats-of-nimh
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Oh yes I can't wait to suffer 12 hours of dealing with dipshits and insufferable people to have half my wage taxed instead of rubbing my balls all day while watching anime at home.

You have to be a fucking retard to have a job just because it's the "moral" and "correct" thing to do.

Working is something that should be done for money to live, not just because, out of a vague moral sense of obligation and social shaming.

If you have a job you despise yet can afford not to work at all you are a fucking retard.
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>>131907348
No, its created a situation when enduring hardship provides nothing in return but a measly living. Climbing the corporate ladder is a fucking joke in todays day and age. I got passed up for a position back wen I was contracted, for a woman who was already part of the company (this is why she got the position). Months later Im literally spoon feeding this cunt info on how to do her fucking job. Its all a joke, meritocracy is dead in the corporate world.
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>>131906811
Thats top-down bs, I dont expect it to last. That and other forms of quota hiring are generally dispised by the workers and what I know of unions. There is also a history of blowback from such programs, ie obvious unfit employees that dont last and create discrimimation accusations out of thin air and generally waste space. The people who should not be there generally stick out like sore thumbs. Atleast in my experience working for NSW state gov (7 years).
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>>131897557
As a 21 year old who has probably spent over 20000 hours playing video games -not even professionally - they are cancer

All my girlfriends have hated how much time I waste with "online friends" and my schooling is suffering because I play games instead of studying for exams

My family is full alcoholics, probably have some addict genes in me, but is it better to be addicted to games or drugs?
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>>131906099
>wage cuck
>pic of salary men

I guess all jobs must seem the same to a layabout.
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>>131899670
My mom did all this and it didnt work! Try again retard.
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>>131897557
It isn't only video games that are causing men to opt out of society, it's the shallowness of popular culture, the death of tradition and expectation, and the influence of television to turn men into passive receptors that cannot think for themselves. There is no easy solution to these problems, no-one is going to want to wage a crusade against entertainment and pleasure. We're living in Huxley's nightmare.
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Don't bother. After two years they're gone for good. It only takes that long, I have personal experience since I've seen two old close friends of mine drop out completely to live in their parents houses. One for 5 years the other for almost 3. The 5 year one tried to go to college but couldn't readjust to society at all, now he just smokes and plays vidya. The other exclusively plays vidya in attempt to get a successful live stream. Attempted to make an indie game with him if he gave me material he never did.
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>>131907129
>best way to tear the system down is from within
This post reeks of indoctrinated youthful thinking.
>be a good boy
>get a job
>pay taxes
>get married
>pay taxes
>buy a house
>pay taxes
>have kids
>pay taxes
>retire if you are lucky
>pay taxes
>die
>pay death tax
Changing the system from within is a liberal lie you fucking retard. It translates as
>keep your head down and do what you are told
How fucking stupid do you have to be to think you can change shit in a rigged system? I guess stupid enough to believe that flag emblems on a image board mean jack shit.
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>>131906073
This guy has it right. One of my friends had a cheating whore of a wife. She lusted after my BBC like no tomorrow. Always touching me and flirting with me right in front of him but he trusted both her and me. Finally decided my bro didn't deserve such a whore so I gave her what she wanted. What she didn't do with my BBC is a shorter list. Things she never did with my bro because she's "not a whore." Had another friend outside the motel recording everything. My bro got an anonymous package in the mail with the recording. He blew up at both of us. She wasn't having any of that and took him to the cleaners. Luckily she didn't have any kids with her yet so he wasn't totally financially crippled and due to circumstances he lucked out and didn't have to pay alimony. Later down the line my friend who did the recording revealed the whole thing to my bro and now we're talking again. He laughed at the whole elaborate plan and said he could handle that it was his best friend that fucked his ex wife instead of some random stranger and everything worked out the best it could. However karma bit the bitch in her ass real hard because a month after the divorce she got mugged and raped by 3 illegals and she tried to pin it on my bro saying he hired people to do it but no evidence was ever found and the case thrown out.
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>>131899783
>fag flag

Shoo, shoo!
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>>131897557
Eat shit
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>>131898595
Note taken
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>>131907770
literally me
>is it better to be addicted to drugs or videogames
I honestly have questioned this myself. I don't drink much our of the fear I'll be an alcoholic, but I've seriously considered just drinking all the time because I function better and stop engaging in compulsive behavior
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>>131897557
>society hates men
>men get away from society
Almost as if there was some kind of correlation...
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>>131905742
I don't dream of becoming a chad that fucks stacies. (What modernity considers 'alpha').
I want to be a husband & father thats loyal to my wife.
Am I just wierd?
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>>131905568
Trumps a multimillionaire pop figurehead , dipshit,
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>>131900207

Here are some fitness websites.

simplesciencefitness.com

http://www.exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html
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>>131907071
You realize they won't be free right? Also you will have to pay for power. You won't be able to afford a 15k robot if you work at McDonald's
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>>131907288
Do you think it's fair to say that urban centres breed this behavior? As in literal overcrowding and proximity?

I keep going back to Ted Kaczynski with this conclusion...

I'm British so let's look at London for example. they've got a foreigner for a mayor who sympathizes with Muslim terror. Statistically this isn't shocking, ethnic brits are approaching a minority in urban centers. Most popular baby name is mohammed now in the UK. OF COURSE this is how they've behaving. A city is it's people. London's of course has foreigners forever but at this point is no different from any other major EU city save for the architecture. No wonder they were the most significant 'REMAIN' hub... It's such a shame to see my home and its capital, the world's capital for so much of history, be destroyed.

Just like anywhere else, how can you say london is england where there aren't englishmen? Is all of this behavior something that the behavioral sink model can explain? It seems like, unchecked, these urban centers face the same fate of tearing themselves apart
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>we

fuck off.
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>>131907770
There is no difference.

Being addicted to games is being addicted to the rush of drugs your body floods your brain with as a reward.

Virtually all human behavior is drug seeking behavior.
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>>131899614
this
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>>131906818

Be a man,
Give up.

Nazi flag. Is it 1945 already?

----------------------------
Unrelated:

What fucks me the most is that my loser mid 20 yo friends don't wanna hit on 16 yo girls or 18, or 20... because "they're kids".

Shit, most normies really want to settle at 35 with a 35 yo loser whore around here.
Mind blowing...
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Sex with preteens, probably.
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>>131905439

What reward? I trained hard in gym for years, studied my ass off and lived like ascetic only to get btfod by a roastie.

No amount of love will save me now. Im 23 and never had normal relationship, all women around me have taken thousands of dicks.

Making discoveries is highly unlikely and im surrounded by hedonistic degenerates.

There is no end to this hell.
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>>131897557
I'm 26, and I don't play vidja or watch TV, or really even watch porn anymore -- but I have "dropped out" for now.

There's just nothing in it for me. The overwhelming majority of women aren't interesting at all, and if they aren't interesting, why should I work to earn money I don't need, doing something I don't enjoy, in order to support a family I won't have? I'd rather spend my time hiking, hunting, playing guitar, building things, lifting weights, BJJ, etc -- than piss it away in a rat race that has no viable end for me. If this were 60 years ago and finding a woman worth investing in was a real possibility, I would be entirely interested in doing so, as that's what I've always wanted -- an actual family -- but now everything is so cheap and so bastardized and so hollow that I just can't pretend to care about any of it. I don't even pay attention to women anymore, and they practically throw themselves at me.
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>>131900928
>adjectives for sluts

Stop it.
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>>131905439
Only reward a life can have is total war.
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>>131908140
the effect on your brain and the practical effects are vastly different

I don't wander around the street at night after binging video games
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>>131897557

Stop fucking them over.
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>>131899740
Agreed. Sorry boys but this experiment is over. It doesn't improve without a fall first. A total fall. Lots of people will have to suffer first. The only fun I expect to even be able to have is to watch it go down.

I hate cities. I hate traffic. I hate liberalism and corporatism. Literally everything sucks. Even technology. All my gadgets work mediocrely. Fuck it all! Burn it!
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>>131899318
All of that will be reversed once society shits itself. Until then...I'm not fucking interested in propping society up one bit. Let the bad choices of people bite them in the ass.
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>>131907999
Nice digits

I'm pretty positive if I went out regularly I would become a rabid alcoholic/drug user

Gaming so much feels pretty worthless sometimes but I kind of solace in the fact I'm not tearing my body apart
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>>131897557
CoD is not that fun, I don't believe this article.
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>>131899746
>7325
>>>131898823
>Part of this is true. Another aspect was parents who either let them sit there all day, or didn't have the time/money to fund productive activities (I'll remind you that most of these things, like boy scouts or school sports, requires parents pay for it and provide transportation). Nothing annoys me more than parents who don't consider why thier kids have anti-social behavior when they don't encourage participation in social activities. Like a kid who won't respect a parent who they see disrespected all the time, they won't become social when they don't see thier parents putting value in social things.
>Everyone has to take responsibility for their actions. By that, I,mean everyone.
Some how that seems like the only rational action. The progressives are starting to attack their own more and more. In 15 years parts will be muslim states, others a cancer of progressive degeneracy. Its like the gears in motion have been spinning beyond the point of stopping now and feel the worst has to happen in order to see a better tomorrow where strong civilizations with an advancing technology and a value for a traditional family structure.
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>>131906489
>a cute ass
>laughing about it
She got the job by being some alphas whore you cretin.
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>>131908118
And to the architecture point, there are ((efforts)) to destroy all of that too!

CHAN COMMENT ON PHOTO:

>Implying this is the end of the story
Let me tell you something about this forum:
It used to have a huge cross, held up by 4 angels at the top of it.

With main parts of the Stadtschloss being rebuilt, it was the question, to also reinstall this cross.

The left party and the green party, both huge in Berlin, were against it for the main reasons:

- The cross could distress muslim residents, as it features christian imagery in a prominent place

- The Humboldt Forum will showcase native art and pieces, so having a cross on top of the Stadtschloss would symoblize colonialism as the cross sits on top of indigenous art.

Even the muslim community said, they didn't care about the cross. The parties yet still stand adamant about it.
There was a critical article about this in the Zeit, a left-wing newspaper, critizising this irrational move by the parties.

Nothing has changed though
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>>131897557

Try hiring them instead of roundfiling their applications and resumes. I mean that'd be a big thing to start with

>Why don't these people magically have jobs?!?!?!
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>>131908272
If you're asking if the side-effects of artificial, concentrated, manmade narcotics are worse than those of natural dopamine, then yes, they are.

If you're saying there's a difference between seeking the one, and seeking the other, there really isn't. That thrill you get when you beat a game, or a boss, or get a super shiny new weapon, that's your body rewarding you with drugs.

And like all drugs, the more you get, the more you want, and the less effect the same amount has.
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>>131907161

Yeah, decline of spirituality (True Sp. which is antythetical to modern protestantism), but not only.

First of all: Democracy, equality, the universal suffrage. Not only about niggers and muzzies and spics.

But most white man, either liberals or poor as shit no do gooders shouldn't really vote.

To allow someone not a soldier/farmer (or its modern equivalents) to become someone influential in a society also kills everything. But mostly all the equality stuff... it kills. Also the greed, but we're talking about the same thing.

Not to mention that it is america that has put all Euro countries down, even if that (((america))). Look at all the Russia bashing. Americans must be the ones who fear Europeans the most, maybe because of (((them))) but it is really difficult to tell.

I hope I was somewhat coherent and made me understand(able).
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>>131906264

I think that part was blind as in nameless.
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>>131897557
Start paying good wages without requiring 753 degrees in the most bullshit things and 20 years of experience to back it up.
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>>131897801
>>131905440
>LARPing as an alpha on a Maori tattoo emporium

Wew
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>>131908484
that was meant for the post above yours sorry
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>>131897557
The job market is fucked and it'll never be able to support everyone. Not in the age of automation which has practically already arrived.

Basic income is the only solution. People who want to sit on their ass all day will be able to. Others who want more money work for it. Production stays high because of automation, everyone has at least a little buying power, the economy stays alive, everyone wins. The only problem will be a very high potential for inflation, and it might be hard to control for it without going full communism, and even then, it'd be extremely dangerous as fuck to try without fucking over a ton of rights (i.e. China) or failing (every other communism attempt).
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>>131900928
You met a Jewish slut in a nuthouse who want's to exterminate Muslims, and that turned your life around?

Hate to say it bro, but you're in for a wild ride.
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>society is waiting for boys raised by feminism to turn into men.
found your error. actually, they are drawing out the collapse of society so that when the take over happens all the strong men that helped build western civ will be dead or elderly and the legions of neets raised by feminism will be the only ones standing in the way to defend what remains. if youre a neet at home you better be self improving in all the ways you can. you have no reason to not be physically fit with all the free time you were granted.
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>>131899670
Good point here. I'd have loved to do those kinds of things but single mom was too busy proving she didn't need a man to bother raising her kids. Then your behind so it kind of self perpetuates. Letting women work was the worst jew trick of them all. Oh well, crash the plane. No survivors.
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>>131900749
yes they are.
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>>131908154
>implying novelty flags on an image board are anything besides satire and whimsical role playing
Given your level of retardation how are you even able to breathe?
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>>131908624
Ofcourse.
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>>131908569
I'm saying there is a difference in what you're doing when seeking or after seeking, not any sort of chemical difference in the brain or something

aka you won't drunk drive while addicted to gaming, or you won't waste entire days/weeks playing videogames if you have a simple drug addiction
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>>131897557
stop trying to train their aspirations and provoking them to rely on memorized behaviors for career success.

A modern plumber couldn't alleviate a leak if it didn't fit educated protocol.
An older one could conceptualize the problem, and apply a temporary or alternative solution.
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>>131900928
Peterson was right
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>>131898823

>your youth is now your entire life

this poster is probably a child
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>>131905191

women of your age run out of time before you do.

But there's always a fresh new bunch of them out of the hoven.
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>>131900076
Fake a mental illness for the gibs. If you're older, go with schizo. It can onset later in life. Google the symptoms.
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>>131900207
Turn your life into the MMORPG you could never find on an electronic device and start leveling up your character, niggr
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>>131908739
Feminism didn't raise it. Post-war generations did. And made sure we would have hell on our doorstep.

Total war. Only solution.
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>>131908592
Yeah, thank you.
Do you think the fix for this is to give voting rights to those who 'earn' them? I've been reading about how in history voting rights have been tied to land ownership, or more interestingly how for some time the right to vote was given only to those eligible for conscription. Just like you said, soldier or farmer. The people who maintain the country and it's people, and the people who protect them and their right to.

I think this relates to OP's point. There are lots of people who do nothing for the future of their nations, but still who demand and who are given a say in terms of their vote. Do you suggest that voting in modern western democracy is related to the push for 'equality'? I'd not thought of it that way but knowing a bit about the history does make it a really interesting point. Especially when one considers how their vote is worth as much as that of a subhuman or illegal...

Thanks!
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>>131897557
>20 years old
>get friend zoned repeatedly
>one girl I really like lead me on, only to do this and it was my breaking point
>retreat to video games
>play for years
>realize it's just making me more depressed
>start lifting
>go back to school
>get great job
>look great
>that girl contacts me on facebook, says she misses me
>wants to meet up an reconnect
>lol okay
>go get lunch together
>get her to talk about herself first
>had 2 kids
>every guy left her
>she's lonely and used up
>working a dead end job
>she is happy we hungout and wants to get to know me more and see me again
>she asks me what I'm up to
>tell her I'm moving for a new job in 3 days, to a place she's always wanted to live several states away and then show her pictures of my new place
>I make a lot of money now
>she realizes she fucked up and her smile disappears
>can hear the sadness in her voice as we finish up lunch
>say goodbye and she looks like I just kicked her dog
Roasties eternally btfo, thanks video games.
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>>131906939
Lol, I don't have to work cuz I caught a 46 double D goddess with an old rich dad who left her a ton. I don't do SHIT and she fuckin loves me and still gives me head. All you MGTOW faggots are just that. Faggots.
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>>131908505
this
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>>131908118
The only thing not controlled for in the mouse experiments was literally population, nothing else was varied, there was always enough food/water/bedding and never any predators. So it must be overcrowding and proximity, as the space remained fixed throughout the experiement. And this is what it shares in common with Japan, japan has almost no space and very high population, as well as long life.

London kind of suffers from population, although what tends to happen there is that space becomes a massive premium and so house prices go through the roof, and that drives wages through the roof. The fact it's so expensive there is what has to some degree curtailed the problems. It is a multicultural nightmare though, that's because it tends to attract the best people from around the world to work in the big industries there.

Japan is falling apart like the mouse utopia experiments, that's the thing, their fertility rate is about 1.4 IIRC, and you need a rate of 2.1 to maintain a stable population. They're going to lose a huge chunk of their population over the next 50-100 years.

The mouse experiments showed that the drop in population could not recover, run to the extreme the mice basically went extinct, the numbers dwindled but the behaviour didn't change when the numbers were small again.

Places like london however are tiny spots of odd behaviour, london doesn't represent the rest of the UK at all ,most of our population is in small towns and villages and they tend to have the stable and healthy reproduction.
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>>131907890

You are a real winner. We are all rooting for you!
Hope your strategy of "I'll get out of society so it can crumble without me because I'm so important and, not only that, I sport a nazi flag!"

You're a real winner!
And not a burger, not a burger at all!
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>>131909212
>>131908505
Her boss was a woman
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>>131897557
>the adverse effects on the wider society are even worse
> - less taxes, for example.
But that's actually one of the few if not the only the good thing about this.

Men dropping out is just a natural response to the fucked up, overregulated and unfree economy we're living in. Back then in the boomer generation they didn't have to deal with all kinds of bullshit like such a high taxation and stagnating economy caused by overregulation and money supply manipulation. In fact, in case you haven't noticed, those news are tailored to fit the boomer's narrative 'kids are just lazy and don't wanna work'. The reality is that there is little incentive for them to do so unless it is absolutely necessary.

Younger men are just responding to incentives and in the process not contributing to the parasitic entity that caused the problem in the first place.

This is not only natural but it should be encouraged to everyone to lead a lifestyle as minimalist as possible in order to pay the least amount of taxes that would otherwise would contribute to feed those boomer parasites at Washington. At this point even tax evasion is morally justified.
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>>131908374

>not tearing body apart

I hope you exercise as well, or else you might start feeling tingles, or even short but shooting pain down your arms/chest/jaw.
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>>131899157

>Yeah because you gave everything away to niggers and women.

no, human resources departments do that
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>>131902532
>happily there are video games and porn but it won't last eternally because as you grow older you feel more and more despair with this lifestyle which turns either in suicidal thoughts or anger.

I have long argued that the thins responsible for the decades long crime drop that began in the 1990s are those two things: video games and porn.

And of course, the very forces that drove boys to those escapes are trying to take them as well. When those are revamped to the point that they don't interest males, the young men will be bscknin the streets, and they will bring hell with them.
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>>131897557
>fight against women squandering their youth
Get back to me once that's accomplished, till then Imma play vidya.
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>>131908374
>I'm not tearing my body apart
You on nofap?
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>>131907890

>pay death tax

literally only the really rich have to worry about that. The cutoff for paying any estate tax is $5.4 million.
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Mouse Utopia Experiment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z760XNy4VM


Sexual Utopia in Power - Roger Devlin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMd1kf3OSuU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWQgFGeFVXQ
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>>131909327
>hur flag and kindergarten level insults
>not an argument
>not even conversaton
You've just confirmed how simple minded you are. Congratulations. We are all impressed. Do you have anything else to add to the conversation is this really all you have left?
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>>131909238
Appreciate the reply. I'm from near Tunbridge Wells so I'm pretty familiar with what I'd consider to be real Britain, i.e. where the brits are. I know land in london's been owned by Saudi kings forever so it's always been a chaotic mess to a degree. I live near toronto now so I'm seeing my country's analog - when people say "I'm moving to canada" it's basically just toronto their talking about, but the overcrowding's having the same effect.

Japan's homogeneity is probably a much better model of the mice, I suppose the big question is if they're just fluctuating around a carrying capacity (like all other species) or if they're doomed already without (ironically) foreigners.
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>>131909562
>nitpicking an argument without further input to the conversation
Your post changes nothing.
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>>131909618
jesus chrst I get its an old video but is that mouse video running at 10 frames a second?
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>>131904011
Brilliant. Especially
>You fall so far behind socially no female in your peer group wants to deal with being your mommy.
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>>131908118

As long as politics/policy respects the markets, policy/politics will always direct the markets and not the other way around.

In London the policy is to let the market rule. Therefore it will face riots from time to time. I don't think these places are hubs of degenerancy by chance. There are a few causes that must explain it, and, in my mind, what may explain it the most is the terrifying inhuman policy that rules in those places (as in the Soviet Union, for instance) that makes them hubs for degenerancy.

As long as the system supports humanity, humans can live through hell (if they have to save their children in war or some shit).

But if the only thing you have is the ability to make some money, enable fags and their deseases and invite foreigners, life will soon become unbarable because it is so inhuman.
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>>131909688
How on earth are you going to 'leave' society. Even Thoreau never accomplished that and thought it ideological and dangerous. When you do 'leave' or find an 'outside', which you won't, what are you going to do to gain any traction to 'destroy from the outside'?

Those 'steps' are just a deconstructionist view. Really marxist of you and your flag. You should know that the family is the BASE of a strong nation, and you should understand that those 'steps' are mostly the modern lens of the natural evolved darwinian story of a human life, with growth and death and love and etc...

For someone with a nazi flag, what on earth are you advocating that'd strengthen your Volk?

Insult if you like.
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>>131908913

What an interesting question.
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>>131909862

I just get sick of people touting the estate tax as a death tax, the people voting in hopes of repealing it will never have enough money to be subject to it and they're just boot licking their rich masters who WILL pay it, when the goal of the estate tax is to prevent aristocracy/old money from really taking root. basically you can't just have people inherit money and do nothing with it but spend it for multiple generations in a row, it'll disappear. In order to keep passing money down they have to invest, they have to work, they have to do something with their money productive to produce more money.
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>>131910080
Non participation is leaving society retard. Obviously there are varying levels of how non participatory one is. If you can't understand that then you need to do more thinking on the subject.
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>>131897557
>Study finds young men are playing video games instead of getting jobs
Instead, it should be:
Study finds young women are riding the cock carousel instead of getting married.
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hey guyz lets spend 50 years making marriage an even shittier deal for men, telling women to whore it up, giving women preferential treatment in education and in the workplace, and then wonder why the men don't want to play the game anymore
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>>131910080
As posted earlier the flag is a joke. My beliefs are straight forward. Fuck society and fuck anyone the thinks they can sway me otherwise.
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>>131904148
This. There are two convergent issues: mgtow and neets. The former can be lived in degrees, ie dating or fucking but no relationships, which is something we see a lot of. Neets are less of a problem to society, as they lack self awareness and self-exclude.
There's nothing wrong with men demanding higher standards, but there is no point in a worthless flabby unemployed man who lives off his mother (many fathers would have kicked him out) going mgtow as nobody wants him anyway.
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>>131897557
>gaming on a laptop
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>>131910025
The governance does perpetuate their behavior for sure. They've now got states who are deciding not to release voter rolls. These states have infrastructure for the degenerate, subhuman, and illegal alike. The urban centres in Cali for example are some of the most liberal shitholes on the planet.
I think you're right that the gov fuels this.

>>131910246
non-participation in what? Paying taxes, finding a wife? I'm not retarded I'm genuinely curious. My thinking has led me elsewhere and if that means I'm wrong I'd love to know why. Instead you insulted me. Nice, really makes me think you've got a clue at all.

Look let's chill out. What are you going to choose not to participate in? How will that help you as an individual? If you can't answer the rest of the questions I've posed you I think it's you that needs to do a bit more thinking.
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>>131905988
It is for so many cunts here
>must lift weights to be an alpha male
>must have blond hair blue eyes to be white
>must accept traps as women
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>>131908237

I understand your pain. It seems I'm at an inferior level but I've been there.

I would advise you, if I may do so, to not be to serious. Try to enjoy shit like the liberals say: 1 day at a time, and you'll never relive this day so enjoy it.
Basically: Carpe Diem.
If you don't enjoy women any more try someone (even if a whore) you can "tolerate" and go do different shit like walking on the beech, trying to understand how she sees things and stuff, from an "I don't care about you, but let's see how this go" point of view.

It may sound gay but other than having a dog I think is a half decent way to feel something (joy of some sort) in the company of lesses women.
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>>131899830
>GOD ALMIGHTY JESUS CHRIST HOLY SPIRIT
>Remove Kike
hahahahahaha
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>>131910494
No its you that needs to think about it. Asking to be instructed with a manifesto as this thread slides off the page is a cop out. Non participation starts with not doing/thunking what one is told to and expands from there.
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>>131910420
So where are you and what are you doing? I mean what country? And in what way are you 'opting out' so to speak?

Do you consider yourself someone in OP's category, do you like to game? Sorry to interrogate, am really curious.
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>>131904805
Maybe try apprenticeships with big companies? A waste of a degree but a job?
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>>131903201
this
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>>131910688
You are the one that needs to answer these questions for yourself. In short:
>tune in
>turn on
>drop out
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>>131910581
I would agree that lots of people fall victim to (((their))) tricks, maybe even a lifetime's worth. I do think you should have a job though. You can choose where you work.
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>>131905191
Fair enough
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>>131900928

What a beautiful tale.

Been there, done that. But not with a Jew, of course. And wasn't in a mental facility or anything like that.

One year later, when everything was going well I got stabbed in the back.
I am currently trying to get up again.

Be careful. Imagine how you'd feel if shit happened. It will probably happen eventually and you will have to take it and keep on standing.
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>>131910819
Self employment is the only way IMO
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>>131899260
>saving money
>negative interest rates

I think you might have missed the last 12years. Saving is Heresy thanks to Krugman and other Nofuns
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>>131910819
Free choice is an illusion. Stop being so naive. Think and speak outside the box for once instead of regurgitating main stream viewpoints.
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>>131910686
yeah but I mean tangible shit, like how do I live without a job? I can work where I want. I want a wife to serve me and to fuck. I've got a girl and those facts make her happy. What on your list is worth opting out? Anyone can think hard enough to justify anything. Obviously I think we should question it all, but when I question you you say 'no' so how can I know your worth?
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>>131909698
Well this is the thing we cant simulate with mice. They had no choice to be there, people move to high density population cities like London or Toronto typically because of things like high wages and job opportunities, if you're very good at your profession then large business there will pay you a fortune to move there, it's why they're so multi-cultural.

Japan has a taboo against integration though, as you say they're extremely homogeneous. I think the question becomes, can intellect and reason be used to override naturalistic behaviour? Mice aren't aware of their own mortality as such and don't seek to keep their species alive for purely intellectual reasons.

I know there's been a tiny shift in fertility since the government has incentivized marriage and children, but it's no where near enough to stop the decline.

My personal prediction is that all this stupid liberal shit about women working and whatnot, that'll come to an end evetually and it'll be the small pockets of traditional family values that keep us going.

Jordan Peterson talks about this, the balance between liberals and conservatives. The liberals want to open borders and invite in chaos and the unknown. Where as conservatives want closed borders and orderliness. You need a bit of both to advance but we've gone too far now and we need to reign it back in.

Sad thing is these processes I think are multi generational, so you're kind of a prisoner of the time you're born in. I'd quite like a family and wife but it's such stupid idea in modern society you might as well shoot yourself in the head.
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>>131910970
>>131910948
Agree. Am self employed.
Does this fit your opt out model? I went to a uni so maybe not.
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>>131910978
No time for a manifesto. You just need to think creatively and organize your life into such an existence is the short answer. Hope that helps.
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>>131910970
What on earth do you mean "it's an illusion". So what? I looked at my options and picked the one I like best. I do this in regard to most things. So what if there's some metaphysics able to predict my actions. I am 'conditioned' to be a skeptic. As for 'drop out', that sounds degenerate and awful. My goal is to lead and to inspire.
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>>131911072
>self employed.
>Does this fit your opt out model?
Yes. Opt out of taxes too. Also opt out of all forms of mainstream existence as possible as well. Stop buying anything unneeded for existence.
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>>131905723
I've seen this a hundred times and only now I wonder, why would we want all those 1s and 2s mating at all?
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>>131909110

rl has hackers, brofam
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>>131911306
man I do that to the extent they won't kill you for it. Most people don't pay more taxes than they need to and i do not pursue a material life. I just worry your antagonism is an ideology that you can't see. Probably your worry about my conformity too.
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>>131910245
The goal is to prevent NEW aristocracy from rising to challange the old.

It takes a few generations to get the real power and the real understating that is not the wealth you own but the wealth you control. Once you understand that money is meaningless you collect what really matters: power. Anyway, Estate tax is just a way to raise the barrier of entry for new blood to the back halls of power, it won't have any effect on those already pulling strings, it does put money in the coffers, but that's becoming more and more meaningless.
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>>131911220
>My goal is to lead and to inspire.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good goy. Its nice to see you have chosen to do as (((they))) ask. Good luck inspiring the masses to anything other then mainstream thought patterns. I wish you well. I really do. If you are lucky you will keep your head down, march through life to the beat of the drum and die knowing nothing you did was contrary to what you were taught as a child.
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