No Person is "Illegal". Stop Xenophobia

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BTW, for some reason, persons fighting against illegal immigration and free market are also happen to be Nazis and racists. So don't be a Nazi - support mass immigration into your country and open borders.

Deport them

How about I come over to your place eat your food drink your Fanta and clog up your commode. So what if you didn't invite me. No one owns anything.. I need your car Btw.. don't worry you'll get it back ..

>>131894261
OP remove the locks from your doors, everyone is welcome

Oxytocin Promotes Human Ethnocentrism:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3029708/

Ethnic Conflicts: Their Biological Roots in Ethnic Nepotism:
https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/ethnic-conflicts-their-biological-roots-in-ethnic-nepotism-tatu-vanhanen.pdf

What Science Says About Diversity (Part 1):
https://www.amren.com/news/2008/04/what_science_sa/

Genetically Beneficial to Resist Replacement Migration:
https://analyseeconomique.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/estimating-ethnic-genetic-interests-is-it-adaptive-to-resist-replacement-migration.pdf

>>131894579
The country is not "your place", which is limited to just your private property, which you pay taxes for. Moreover, illegal immigrants are invited by businesses, who are ready to provide them with food, work and housing.

>>131894261
DUDE WEED

>>131894585
You americans are so stupid, that can't discern between a house and the country borders, which should be made illegal. In 21st century there is no place for borders; there must be free movement of workforce and goods.

>>131894876
>Moreover, illegal immigrants are invited by businesses, who are ready to provide them with food, work and housing.
Wrong.
Migration via legal means != illegal migration

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>>131895011
>there should be no borders
>Halp, russia took Crimea.

>>131895011
So why the war with 'Russians'?
Surely Ukraine doesn't have a border, why would you fight with some Russian people simply because they came over some non-existent border?

Seems hypocritical.

>>131894261
Yes because Russians legally migrated Crimea to Russia, there was nothing illegal about that.

>>131894261
>>131894380
Butthurt that visa-less entry does not mean you can get money for cleaning polish toilets?

If no one is illegal, no one is legal, either.

Why are people so dumb?

If non-whites weren't trash, they wouldn't have to beg to move into majority white countries.

>>131894876
>The country is not "your place"
yes it is

>>131894261
They really should stop using the term "phobia" we arent scared of shit, we just dont want or like these fucking shitskins

>>131894261
Because they were born here? Because we don't need more people? We can't kick out people born here so why bring in others which leads to our own people suffering?

>>131894876
Yeh Crimea isn't your place. You don't need it just let the Russians in.

>>131894261
Can I just wander into their homes and live there and eat their food? There's no such thing as an illegal human after all

>>131895683
why stop there give kiev back to russia

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>>131894380
Forgive us for letting those silly cockholes get Internet connection, Gentlemen! We'll fix it by 2018, hopefully.

I agree. Bridges-not walls. The bridges should empty into a large swamp filled with hungry alligators.

>>131895290
Actually he is right. Businesses who need cheap labor benefit from illegals, who can be hired for cheap (both in salary and associated expenses). Why hire pole to dig a trench when you can hire ukrainian for half the price?

>>131894261
I am terribly ashamed of you. Could you please post under a BLM or EU flag?

>>131894261
How about we reach a compromise.

We build a bridge, but flip it on its side across the Mexican border.

>>131894261
k. Out of curiosity, would you prefer to be invaded by Russians, or Germans?

>>131895290
Businesses don't care about legality. They only care about workers being ready for a lower wage, than fat good for nothing citizens. I think we should ban citizenship, so only big corporations will be able to vote. Problem solved.

> What's wrong with breaking the law

>>131895961
>ban citizenship
>ua.png
Of course, your citizenship is worthless anyway.

>>131895461
Russia is not an immigrant, it is a huge land-grabbing empire, wanting to restore communism. That is exactly what we must fight against - strong governments with strong borders. I.e. Russia must be balkanized and forced to accept any immigrant.

Cockhole teaches westerns to be tolerant, ok

Shareblue faggot using Ukrainian proxy
Ignore this slide thread

Just remember
The MSM, The Hollywood elites, The DC insiders don't hate Trump
They hate YOU
They told you who to vote for and You didn't
They told you how to think and you ignored them
They told you to hate Trump and you defied them
They hate YOU because you broke the conditioning
They hate YOU because you don't vote how they tell you
They hate YOU because you publicly disagree with them
When Colbert is bashing Trump his contempt is for YOU the people who voted for him
Remember now and always The MSM, Hollywood, and the DC elites since the 60's have been calling YOU racists, sexist, theocrats, hatemongers etc
They encouraged the BLM riots and cheered as people were attacked and neighborhoods burned
They encourage and PAID thugs to attack Trump supporters at rallies
Bernie celebrated shutting the Chicago Trump rally down
They celebrated paid goons and Antifa shutting down free speech
THEY ENCOURAGE VIOLENCE AGAINST YOU!
It isn't Trump they hate and fear it is YOU because you do not follow their instructions
THEY
HATE
YOU

>>131896141
Well, let's not be hasty there.
At least with Ukrainian citizenship one can easily tell him fron an ordinary pig.
>>131896178
>wanting to restore communism
>an ex-KGB wanting to restore communism
Retarded.
>>131896266
No, it's a legitimate Ukrainian. Trust me, they're about as easily molded into different ideologies as Koreans circa 1945.

>>131896178
>Not all borders should be destroyed, only the ones I don't like.

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>>131895965
When the law oppresses people, there is nothing wrong in breaking it, because such law must be illegal.

>>131894876
Kek you keep on dreaming. I pay taxes for roads schools ,infrastructure, the military, etc. etc. etc. businesses don't have the right to invite anyone. Sanctuary cities are illegal under the US constitution. Sick tired lady liberty meme

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>>131894261


Fuck off, Ukrainefag. I hope a Russian TU-160 bombs your house.

>>131896527
Spending perfectly good bombs on a state that's on its way to self-destruction is wasteful.

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>>131896621


Logical. I concede to your point. It would be a waste on such slime. Bombers are expensive to run, after all.

>>131895956
I would prefer to immigrate to Germany and take Hans' job. Because lets admit it, German wages are undeservingly high and we Ukrainians can do it for half the price. Free market FTW!

>>131896178
>only my country is allowed to have boarders

go to bed israel.

>>131894261
Illegal immigrants do take a large number of America jobs, and it’s one of the main reasons they come here: to find jobs and/or raise American kids or send money home to their families in remittance.
However, they take jobs that legal migrants and low-skill American workers would do; companies want to hire cheap illegals that they can deport if the workers complain, and hire new ones who will not complain about low pay or conditions for fear of deportation.
Companies WILL hire illegal immigrants as long as it is more profitable for them to do so. Chicago Tribune article cites the NAS, but we find from
http://cis.org/NAS-Study-Workers-and-Taxpayers-Lose-Businesses-Benefit the quote “Overall, the report by the National Academies (NAS) shows that immigration, legal and illegal, does create an economic benefit for native-born Americans, but this benefit is generated by reducing the wages of native-born workers, often the least-educated and poorest.”
One could argue that small business owners would also see an increase in profits, however they will be less likely to hire illegals, so most of the profits would go to huge businesses that can afford to either easily lose and replace workers, or deal with punishment from being caught employing illegal immigrants.
The presence of illegal immigrants assumes that not only will the illegals be easily exploitable for cheap labor, but this also encourages reduction of the wages of legal workers to try to compete with cheap foreign labor. The number of working illegals estimated by FAIR in 2013 was 8 million (http://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-aliens-taking-u-s-jobs) . The number of unemployed Americans seeking work in 2016 was 7.5 million (https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf ). Even as these numbers are estimates of the current state of the US, that’s millions of people out of work who could have income for themselves and their kids and not require federal aid or be a drain on their families.

>>131896873
Legal immigrants boost our numbers and create demand and jobs in the US just as illegals do, but do not have to fear deportation, and it is easier for them to buy goods and services like school, insurance, cars, and other things you must register or be citizen for. This ensures that they are paying into the economy, are accountable for their payments (don’t just run back to their home country) and taking care of their kids for the next generation to be productive.
You would not be able to just walk or fly into any other country and use their services. Services like medical and healthcare, water resources, living area in cities, and even things like number of cars on the road have an impact, and must be documented and adjusted for population increase all the time. >https://www.scribd.com/document/270946642/Factsheet-Why-Should-You-Care-About-Immigration#fullscreen=1
Illegal immigrants use up these material, financial, and space resources, but if they are undocumented, the cities have trouble knowing when and how to adjust these commodities or if they need to expand or enlist other counties to help satisfy the requirements of a population that secretly grows. This is more of a problem in places like LA and other sanctuary cities, where they refuse to address the problems of illegal immigration.
Taxes: One reason we get to use services like water and medical services is that we are held accountable to pay for them in taxes. The federal government likes to tout that illegal immigrants try to pay income tax, but in reality, many of them do not
>http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/james-agresti/about-61-million-illegals-filed-taxes-us-many-didnt-pay-received-refunds)
They also use ITIN filing numbers to get benefits, and benefit from other free programs if they have legal citizen children.

>>131896621
HAHAHAH
Thats the only thing America spends its bombs on anyway. Libya, Yemen, Syria, etc...

>>131896408
Illegal immigrants can pay taxes too, if government gives them work permit. So again, just give work permit and free entry to all people in the world, especially people from the poorest countries with ongoing local conflicts.

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>>131896960
Welfare: Illegal immigrants are likely to be on welfare through their American-born children
>http://www.fairus.org/issue/immigration-and-welfare
Many of them come in search of work, so they already did not have good jobs. Many of them also come to have American children, so that adds not only the cost of supporting the parents (if they cannot find jobs), but also means they will have healthcare and education costs as well.
>http://www.fairus.org/issue/the-costs-to-local-taxpayers-for-illegal-aliens
>http://www.fairus.org/issues/labor-and-economics
>http://www.fairus.org/issue/immigration-labor-displacement-and-the-american-worker
>http://www.fairus.org/issues/population-and-environment
>https://www.scribd.com/document/254503754/Executive-Action-Harmful#fullscreen=1
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u1J6EEhkyM&t=263s
>https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5qcumx/americans_line_up_for_restaurant_jobs_after/
Other problems:
Criminality (Border crime, catch and release, Prison costs, cartels)
Social aspect (Affirmative action, Government compliance, illegal voting, convincing liberals to let illegals into positions of power)
How to fix it (Deportation, HB1 visas, End Birthright citizenship, Employment penalties for companies that hire illegals, Wall)

Why a wall will help (Physical barrier against illegals and coyotes, Defended with good tech,Jobs for few agents to enforce if necessary, Other countries have one and it works: Hungary, Israel, Macedonia, Bulgaria and Slovenia built such a fence likewise, can cover in Solar panels)

More references: Stephan Molyneux (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6NYP9qmjfU)
Gumball Immigration (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cwrrMBtfKQ&app=desktop ),
Even Bill Clinton agrees (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYKubBpdRls @ 11:00)

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>>131896973

As much as I hate to agree with a globocuck, you're right. The U.S. Armed Forces should be operating on our southern border. Search and destroy actual invaders instead of policing the world for Tel Aviv.

>>131896774
Why do you think we didn't conquer Ukraine in 2014?
Simple.
They're not worth it.
We gave them everything. They were the richest, most prosperous of the ex-USSR republics, they had the perfect positioning, they had a fantastic market, they had amazing military.
What did they do with that all?
'The Breadbasket of the Union' now has fallen to a point where one of important exports they have nowadays would be snails. 44 tons of them during the last year.
Their military? Pathetic joke, even after three years of fighting. They sold their tanks, their jets, their navy. They cut up their own Tu-160s and eagerly handed over their nukes.
And while I cannot blame them for what they did in 90s, as we all were under traitor rule back then, in 00s they did absolutely nothing useful, and same in 10s.
Economically, they've been frozen in 1993.
Not all of Ukraine is covered in 3G.
They don't have bloody IKEA, even. I know it sound petty, but can you imagine being such a failure economically that IKEA doesn't want you, a country with 40mln people and sprawling woods?
We did all we could to keep them going, but they stabbed us in the back and betrayed their own interests. We had enough of these pig-men shooting down our jets in 8.8.8 war and calling for cutting of all Russians on their anti-government protests.
The Ukraine Project is a failure. We took what we wanted. The rest can burn for all we care, they've spent all their chances.

>>131894261
Fuck off, we took enough of you already.

>>131897376
Just abolish welfare. Taxing hardworking people to give freebies to do-nothings is a theft.

>>131896987
>So again, just give work permit and free entry to all people in the world
So just give them our jobs? No, there isn't a labor shortage here. We need our own citizens to be employed (as much as can be hired as automation expands). More wealthy communities are more able to give aid to other countries and help them in their OWN communities, and that way they can keep all their intelligent, hardworking citizens to improve their communities, instead of sending them here.

>>131897910
We should end (or drastically change and reduce) Welfare, but we still shouldn't take hardworking citizens from their home countries- this lowers the productivity and average IQ of those nations, so it's harder for them to improve.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cwrrMBtfKQ

>>131897506
They've been fighting foreign influence since their inception, I'm surprised they're still standing at all.

>>131898203
What fighting? They've just been sitting on two chairs up until 2014, when the 'public' demanded Yanukovich picks one side. He picked Russia. Idiots rebelled.

>>131896178
Here we see Ukraine having feverish, kike influenced dreams

>>131894261

>Why lazy fat white citizens should be entitled to employment protection and high wages just by their birthright?

because our ancestors built it and gave it to their offspring, not my problem your ancestors were shit and had nothing to pass to you

>>131894261
why is it that only illegal immigrants and people who enable them are the only ones that think nobody is illegal?

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>>131897914
>So just give them our jobs?
Why not? They ready to work for lower wage. So you're just non-competitive. That is capitalism for you, my little American friend. Either you give up your job or you're a commie-nazi socialist, feeling entitled to something you do not deserve.

BTW, captcha requests me to select bridges.

>>131895011
Can you remind us what ukraine means again

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>>131898924
>because our ancestors built it and gave it to their offspring
Your ancestor was Ford of Rockefeller? Either that or you feel yourself entitled again. And Ford's and Rockefeller's kids have inherited all the wealth parents created anyway.

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>>131901926
Ukraine means high enough IQ to break up with Russian commies and follow the way of capitalism.

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>>131894261
Because you aren't solving the problem, you are only making everything worse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

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>>131894261

>>131895961
almost fell for it

AGREEED' OP


now surley you dont mind that i bring my family nehmah over with the 23 kids and totals 10 brothers plus the wives and live off the benifits the west has to offer??

now multiply me by x5000
welcome to the refugee crisis and enjoy the impending collapse

>>131902697
Nope. By allowing free immigration, we are reducing wages down to average world level, and make everything cheaper. Workers will freely move to the place where they are needed.

>trespass on private property
>"no human is illegal!"
>get shot

>>131895011
lol no

>>131896178
>land-grabbing
Having land is not useful in the 21st century. Don't you know the difference between a house and land. Ukrainians are so stupid.

>>131903016
>live off the benifits
No welfare = only the benefits you really earn.

>welcome to the refugee crisis and enjoy the impending collapse
No crisis. When wages drops down enough, there would be no incentive for you to immigrate into 1st world country, because that will not make for the price of the ticket. Unless you are gay and want to immigrate into EU for gay rights protection.

>>131903523
American land is not your private property. You haven't paid for it, mr. fat white citizen. So say good bye to your privileges.

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>>131903919
Hy хвaтит тoлcтить yжe.

>>131903919
Come take it, faggot.

>>131895834

Stop. Being. Mad.

>>131903727
>Having land is not useful in the 21st century.
Now tell that to professional Starcraft player, he should not expand at all.

>>131904035
Cocи хyй, быдлo!

>>131895834
>Forgive us for letting those silly cockholes get Internet connection, Gentlemen! We'll fix it by 2018, hopefully.
Godspeed Vlad

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>The shills are still this obvious

When will they learn?

>>131894261
Yes

>>131895923
Ukraine is a progressive country. So we should be the first to welcome immigrants and gays here. Unfortunately not many come in, beside a few real refugees saving their lives, because wages are not that high.

>>131904270
Kill your self Ukrainian scum your are dying it has the fastest declining population in the world you have an hiv epidemic don't be racist nazis it's to be replaced by a stronger Slavic people, Crimea should be resembled in the rest of Ukraine

>>131901926
I'll help you
The name "Ukraine" (Ukrainian: Укpaїнa Ukrayina [ukrɑˈjinɑ]) derives from the Slavic words "u", meaning "within", and "kraj", meaning "land" or "border". Together, "u+kraij" means "within the borders"

>>131904173

weirdest comeback I've ever seen

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>>131904743
Just recognize that other people (yes, even Mexicans) have rights too, including the right to compete for the jobs on a fair playfield.

>>131905092
You're replying to your own post, with the same ID.

>>131894261
Yeah, open borders for Israel!

>>131905310
Last time I checked, Israel had Arab work immigrants.

>>131894261
You don't know whats wrong because no one wants to immigrate to your shitty country. In fact, people emigrate from Ukraine.

>>131905587
At least Ukraine is a welcoming country and people here are not racists.

>>131905293
Yeah I'm working, something you're probably not familiar with. Clicked the wrong one. The point remains

>>131905962
Since it seems your thread is legit, I'm going to give you a serious answer.
Think about some natives living in a tribe, enjoying their lives the way they do. They have their culture, pros and cons. Water is clean, beautiful preserved nature, they collect what they need. They don't have all the pros of technology, though, its the way they chose to live.
Now think a city guy finds the place, like it, and decide to build a house to enjoy the nature.
Natives probably won't be bothered by it. Now this got mainstream attention, lots of people are going to build houses and apartments etc.
Natives lifestyle will be ruined.
Immigration is the same, in a larger scale. Immigrantion per si is not necessarily bad, but in large flow it will destroy local culture and lifestyle. People should be allowed to chose the influx of people, based on what they think is the best for their lifes. If you don't care about your culture, go ahead and let tons of immigrants come, but know the pros and cons of doing so.
There is yet another consideration. In a full libertarian enviroment, immigrants who don't adapt economically won't cause losses, because there will be no gibbs. But all countries today have their share of social welfare, which means poor immigrants will weight down tax paying citizens.
So I don't think its racist or absurd to exert control over you own borders. And before you say borders are old fashioned, it is literally one of the core requisits of a national state.

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I have noticed that the opponents of immigration are the same people who oppress women and insist that woman's place is at the kitchen, not competing with men at the workplace.

>>131894261
Illegals can work for absurdly low wages because rather than having to support a in the US they have to support a family in Mexico.

>>131895011
then you have no problem with russia invading you, fucking slav nigger
i hope the last thing you see before you get a bullet in the head is your whole family getting raped and decapitated before you

>>131907314
You're using the strawman argument. Americans are not natives, in fact, American nation is the nation of immigrants, who ruined live of natives by converting their hunting grounds into farm lands.

>People should be allowed to chose the influx of people, based on what they think is the best for their lifes.
That is the same, as if you try to reach you school or workplace, walking along the street and then a band of bullies will block your way, saying "the likes of you are not welcome here". Same with xenophobic American citizens, blocking Mexicans.

Also, had you been smart, you would have purchased a housing and then rented it to Mexican immigrants, but instead you want to fight them for a low paid job. So you're the proof, that white can be very low IQ too,

>>131905962
I've met many eastern Europeans who moved to the Uk for work and have often been surprised by their lack of racism.
However within 6 months they soon become the most openly racist people.

It's your lack of exposure that allows you to hold the views you do

>>131894261
Are you the stupidest ukrainian yet?

>>131907694
Well, you can always move your family to Mexico. It is visa-free for US citizens and I heard Mexicans are very friendly people. You just have to pay them some respect. Try it for once.

>>131894876
As long as I pay tax, then I do own it, it's equivalent of rent.

You can't have open borders and taxation.

If you want open borders, you have to stop taxing people. If you tax people, there wont be welfare. If there is no welfare, stupid niggers would die out and spics would go back to Mexico.

>>131894261
Talk about a strawman. If you drive without a licence, convenient shorthand for that is to say or write, "illegal driver". It doesn't mean YOU'RE illegal, dipshit.

>>131907733
You're confusing immigration with armed invasion from a totalitarian country, intended to enslave your people.

>>131908422
Severed head pics incoming.

>>131894261
Open borders would be great if we didn't have a welfare state

>>131896960
Growth for the sake of growth is cancer fuck jesus scum your nation will die. Borders maybe a crime against humanity in your opnion but in reality are these non white migrants even human?

>>131908586
Well, if you have lost your license driving under influence of alcohol, then it is entirely your problem. False analogy otherwise.

Ukraine belongs to Russia.

>>131908146
Your backwards logic aside, we're already at a population density that is much to high. It's a matter of resources and open spaces so in other words, fuck off we're full.

>>131908146
You raise a good point. Look how well mass immigration worked out for native Americans, or Australian aborigines, or red dot Indians. Mass immigration does not work out well for the native population and people have a well established right to self determination.

>>131894261
You fried your brain with drugs son.

>>131908146
Not white, not even american. And yeah, americans descend from people who invaded the land they now live in, how did that suit the natives?
And individual rights don't exclude collective rights, like self determination. People even have the right to exclude their own individual rights if they think it will better serve the collective, i.e. drugs, alcohol in muslin countries etc.

>>131908757
>implying all Mexicans are criminals an chop heads, not just some crazy lunatics, that serve jail time.
nice fallacy here, mr. racist.

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>>131895011
Wait till the russians here this one

>>131894261
Because we pay taxes.

>>131908684
No immigrants 0 shut it down shut it all down. The non white demographic is stagnating any way the country will not being going much further from here also in fiscal 2016(July 1st 2016-July 2nd 2017)we will be taking in a mere 150,000 immigrants down by 85% from the year before, this is a good thing. Cuckservative trickle down reaganomics crapitalism is bullshit not even the republicans want it, that's why trump won.

>>131894261
I'll bite the bait.

It's because our familial generations built the country we enjoy today. Your familial generations shit around for 100 years making everything worse by propagating their dumb as shit beliefs.

We don't want you and your dumb inherited beliefs coming over here and fucking up what our grandfathers built.

>>131894876
Not to burst your bubble kike, but it is precisely, literally our place, and every politician who dares to open his mouth and say otherwise will never receive a white vote in this country again. The legislation is already in action.

>>131909257
or hear it

>>131894261
>No one is illegal
I'm guessing this is one of those "laws and borders are arbitrary" arguments. All animals are territorial and tribalistic, having borders and enforcing them is just a more intelligent way of behaving how nature intended us to.

>>131909026
It's a perfectly apt analogy

driving: illegal under some circumstances
noun phrase as shorhand for someone who drives illegally: illegal driver

immigrating: illegal under some circumstances
noun phrase as shorhand for someone who immigrates illegally: illegal immigrant

Same reason Ukraine fought Russia in Crimea. It's our coubtry, not theirs.

>>131909173
Yea the Spanish did not invade they settled the land and mixed with the natives and took territory by expanding north,then came in the French and British,then came the American colonists who rebelled and expelled the British French and Spanish in that order and maybe fought with the remaining natives a few times but it's been quiet since the late 1800s thankfully.

>>131894261
https://youtu.be/mXX-feELSmY

all we want is to vet them. If they have gang tattoos or they've been arrested 9 times already in the US for drunk driving or stealing cars don't let them in. I don't have any major issues with the mexican women who clean my house for me of course besides the fact they will only ever vote democrat

>>131909250
I just said that someone would post them. Not (necessarily) that I agree with using such (abhorent, kek) propaganda.

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>>131894261
i imagine these people keep the doors to their places of residence completely unlocked and wide open at all hours of the day and night since this is how they feel. you know, since no one is illegal.

>>131895011
How can it be illegal to enter private property if no human is illegal??

>>131909580
Again you're confusing immigration with armed invasion from a totalitarian country, intended to enslave your people. It is one thing opposing USSR, a completely different opposing Mexican immigration.

>>131894261
If a white person illegally immigrates they should be deported just like a non-white illegal immigrant.

>>131909434
In 2008 about 80% of people who voted for obama were white, he got 70,000,000 votes, in 2016 Hillary voters were 49% non white and she only got 66,000,000. Trump got more than any republican ever and we hear about revelations in CA, oh what a time to be alive.

I consider obtaining legal citizen the first step in respecting the nation you're emigrating to. We have border laws to ensure whatever/whoever moves into our nation is desirable/useful/productive (usually). By merging into a nation that, more than likely, has different cultures, norms, and standards of living than your previous home, I would hope people come here legitimately as to show their civility. By making your way here illegally, your very first action on my nation's soil is disrespectful.

I don't care if you hopped the boarder and lived peacefully for twenty years; you (excluding kids tossed over the fence) made the choice to sneak in and you can't just wait out your first offence. You're not supposed to be here.

>>131894261
>>131894380
immigrate to your graves, niggers

>>131909768
Did the US refuse you entry?

>>131909610
>implying all Muslims are extremists who blow up planes.
Here, have this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasty_generalization

>>131909257
*hear

>>131894261

Why are people immigrating illegally? Is it because the countries filled with people like them are dogshit hellholes?

>>131909968
EU to be exact. But I feel solidarity with Mexican brothers.

If you cross into a country illegally, you are an illegal. If a nation is not your ancestral homeland, you are not entitled to citizenship of that land and you have no real right to be there.

>>131896178
hahahahhahahaha kike

>>131910020
How about go fuck yourself I enjoy seeing trump smash Reagan and Obama's neocon neoliberal legacy. The fact that the amount of immigrants dropped 85% in fiscal 2017 is a good thing.

>>131896266
theres a good number of kikes in ukraine work for soros that started the war there

>>131910156
Kill yourself.

Is there a more mentally defective political position than being for open borders? I seriously can't think of a belief that is more childish, naive, or uneducated.

>>131910087
Because your country has higher wages. Just that.

>>131910400
So we should kill them for trying to stagnate our higher wages? (((Capitalist)))scum

>>131910169
>If you cross into a country illegally, you are an illegal.
And what makes me worse than a citizen? Check your undeserved privilege.

>>131894261
Throw them in a max security exercise yard.
I'll bet they run towards the prison officers for protection.
This public display of emotional masturbation should carry serious penalties, like all degeneracy it's so stupid nobody would indulge in it for any reason other than flagellating themselves internally and this only causes damage to society.
I'd have em in the army clearing mines and that's that
Once they meet reality with no MSM they will be cured or dead

>>131910526
you have no respect for the law

that makes you worse

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Derp de doo doo!
Braking the law isn't illegal!
Stop being spazmophobic and stuff

>>131910586
But it oppresses people who aren't you fellow citizen. This butt hurt fag got rejected Asylum by the EU of all things and he's been talking about Fags so I think he's gay prob has HIV like 15% of his COUNTRYMEN have.

>>131894261
Obvious bait post. American had the sovereign right to decide who enters its property. America has the right to basic border checks, to see if someone has an infectious disease, criminal record, skills and qualifications, isn't carrying contraband etc. It's basic logic and you are retarded.

>>131910392
So what makes illegal immigrants worse persons than the lazy fat good-for-nothing citizens?

>>131903919
According to Texan penal code I can light you up like a fucking Christmas tree to defend private property

>>131910836
Cause Mexicans are fatter than the general public and take welfare more, the majority of them do.

>>131910586
American immigration laws are xenophobic and against human rights, so they deserve no respect. Period.

>>131910964
>muh feels

not an argument

>>131910836
Also your comment is exactly how immigrants who are capitalist pawns think. You come with chips on your shoulder cause "muh we work harder" unions are making a comeback day of the rope soon.

>>131910714
American immigration laws must be abolished. They are not suitable for 21st century. Same way, American citizens should not feel themselves entitled to undeserved privileges.

>>131894261

What is wrong with illegal _____?

You can't pick and choose which laws to enforce. Society can't function like that.

>>131910964
did you get rejected cause you have HIV? Like 15% of your countrymen?

>>131910836
America is statistically speaking one of the hardest working countries on earth, and you can't fucking call white people lazy when whites literally built western civilization from the ground up.

>>131894380
We already are Nazi's and Racist.

Catapult the shitskins back to there own shithole country.

>>131910537
My man I worked in a super max prison. No one goes to the CO's for protection 'cause one that can't do shit, two there are maybe two CO's out there, if mother fuckers haven't called in, for the 60+ inmates

>>131911145
Did you get rejected cause you have HIV?

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>>131911145
you mad faggot?

>>131911145
You know more immigrants this fiscal year will be deported than arrive right? This is good

>>131894261
>Why lazy fat white citizens should be entitled

Because their ancestors build that, they worked on it. That's why.

>>131910788
America is no more your property, than your wife, your workplace manager or your president. America deserves the right to be open to everyone. Freedom for America!

>>131896178
How can you "grab land" if borders don't exist? If borders don't exist, I'm assuming property doesn't exist either?

>>131894672
I already knew this stuff.

What a lot of people don't know is that depression, as a clinical disease, does not exist.

The underlying cause of depression in ALL cases, is social behavior. That's not to say that some people aren't genetically predisposed to getting depressed; all it means is that they are more likely to be affected by social interaction.

Depression affects more women, as women are more social.

It affects transgendered people the most, because they are the most stigmatized.

It affects white people more than black people, because white people aren't allowed to have a sense of brotherhood, and that we're being systematically stigmatized.

And if you look at history, the word "Depression" didn't even exist until recently. Older cultures (cultures of honour), relied more heavily on social conformity than they did law, because law and order was very limited in its power and authority. When someone would become fatigued and feel empty, and think about killing himself, it was usually because that person was dishonorable or had been dishonored. Conversely, mania (the polar opposite of depression) would occur in people who were honourable or attained honour; they were uplifting, excited, elated, grandiose, and abundant.

Depression is a vestigial mechanism in human biology that we've made obsolete, because we've made human civilization autonomous. It no longer works for the interests of the collective; it works for the interests of the individual.

>>131894261
What's wrong with stealing?

>>131911374
This guy got rejected the EU now he is butthurt.

>>131894876
>which you pay taxes for.
And I also, for some reason, pay taxes that go into welfare/healthcare programs that illegals abuse while paying none themselves.

>>131911395
No

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>>131911395
never gonna happen

>>131911395
how much do they pay you?

>>131894261
>Flag

>>131894261
>these people that think everything about immigration is positive

There are many down sides that would quickly overwhelm the benefits for a massive net loss, if immigration was open to all.
Legal immigration is important because, like anything that can massively change the economical and political landscape of a country, it needs to be carefully monitored and controlled.

>>131894261
How much do they pay you?

>>131894261
Because their parents made the country and left it for them. Not for you Oleg.

>>131894261
>No Person is "Illegal"
Congress does not agree, and neither does America.

>>131911396
Well, Russians believe borders do exist. That is why America must nuke Russia, enough times for Russia to forget where its borders are.

>no person is illegal

Try it out in some third world shithole and let me know how that works out.

>>131911145
>American immigration laws not suitable for the 21st century
I agree 100%. We should slam the doors shut completely for fifty years or so. Start with repealing the Immigration Reform Act of 1965

>>131911579
just a canacuck leaf with a VPN nothing to see here

>>131894261
>>131894380

Why is this Ukrainian piece of shit always making shitty bait threads?

>>131894261
>no one is illegal
I wonder if this sign would hold up in a court of law as evidence for an "invitation" in a homeinvasion case.

>>131911579
So you're an American shitposting from Ukraine or an American on a proxy, an American shill on a proxy, which is it.
how much are they paying you

>>131911395
Fuck you slav nigger. My grandparents helped build this great country, I have more skin in the game than 3rd world subhumans. Your whole ideology was manufactured in a multinational corporation board room. Nothing you believe is genuine or organic. Go neck yourself.

>>131911579
52% are neutral to Russia your wish will never come shareblue fails just like act blue

>>131911374
So your ancestor was Ford of Rockefeller? Either that or you feel yourself entitled again. And Ford's and Rockefeller's kids have inherited all the wealth parents created anyway.

>>131911579
You could have nuked them your damn selves if you'd held onto your shit in 1992

>>131911813
Get off your VPN your mother would not be pleased

>>131911768
Nah man southerners aren't on average 15th generation we all came from immigrants.

>>131911813
Spam post.

>>131910156
It's because you don't respect our systems and laws, that's why.
It's also the reason you're countries are the way they are.
Western countries aren't rich because of the likes of Ford or Rockefeller but because of the people, culture and systems they set up.

>>131894261
What is wrong with legal immigration?

>>131911768
see >>131911813

you already got the inheritance from your parents, probably a car, a house and a bank account. Everything else is not yours. I repeat: American is not your property, America deserves freedom from the likes of you.

>>131911813
The white peasants he hired to build that for $.10 an hour did that he is just a capitalist exploiter.>>131911832

>>131896405
Argentina is expensive to move in

>>131912089
you don't deserve any hand outs you gibmedat seeking nigger

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and there is only one race, the human race and all cultures are equal

>>131912089
Not only did I not get any of that Americans are entitled to have their rights put first before yours and that of foreign non white trash, and are you projecting about the inheritance thing rich shareblue fag because your clearly using a VPN.

>>131897084
kek

>>131911901
I'm not using VPN. I'm a well known Ukrainian name-fag here and even made videos from Kyiv:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOdDUsPkC8s

>>131894261
some fucking criminal in other country? fuck yea he is goddamn illegal here and i fucking murder anyone who says otherwise

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>>131912277
THICC

>>131912381
Now the Russians can find and kill you

>>131894261
nigger your failure to take the east ukraine from russia means your not worth bribing anymore. they wont give you money and the west wont either. your just a 3rd world shit hole who every one hates

>>131912277
Is this more mexican drug lord shit?
What does the sign say?

>>131894261
>>131894380
>>131894380
your "country" is russian property and one day they will have it back. your language is just an unimportant mixture of russian and polish.

>>131912325
All people deserve equal rights. Only xenophobic Hitler-worshipers like you want to limit immigrants in rights.

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>>131912277
Wrong - feel free to think you are the same as niggers and abos

>>131910964
>against human rights
How

>>131912598
Only foolish HIV infected rats would want to destroy a nation state more than it already is. We have a non white population that is 1/3rd foreign born 2/3rd foreign background/post 1965 background. We took enough. They are fatter than the general public and the majority are on welfare.

>>131912450
They have promised many, many times. I have even started to collect their threats at my github: https://github.com/saniv/text/tree/master/russian_opinions

still Russians failed to kill me, although there were attacks, when I still lived in Russia, because Russians are very intolerant to independent opinion.

>>131912821
he thinks gibmedats are a human right

>>131894261
Criminal migrants then. Try saying "nobody is a criminal"

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>All people deserve equal rights


Wrong, there's no such thing as "rights" , it is just a social construct

>>131912848
Independent opnion your ministry that is Soros owned spewed that to you on state televisions you are just a dumber version of a Russian.

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>>131894261
>what's wrong with illegal immigration?
it's illegal and they're not white.

I don't see what makes this so difficult to understand

>>131894261

>What is wrong with illegal immigration?

Does that count for Africa, can we finally come and steal the rest of their resources ?

>>131912565
You will be surprised, but I'm Russian citizen, so Ukraine is not my country. I'm just hiding here as a political refugee, from Putin's Nazi regime. Russian police said that I'm a Jews and they will find a way to dispose of me, so I wont be able to publish my opinion on the Internet.

>>131911407
>What a lot of people don't know is that depression, as a clinical disease, does not exist.
Are you retarded?

>>131912821
Illegal immigrants are human beings. Immigration laws discriminate immigrants, reducing them in rights, compared to citizens.

>>131913102
>Russian police said that I'm a Jews and they will find a way to dispose of me
godspeed based russians

>>131913102
I hope they find you

your ideas are cancer

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>>131894261

Are you a fucking retard? Maybe Russia should start sending you a million Muslims per year?

>>131894261
You should get the firing squad.
KYS

It's just fucking illegal. I don't understand this debate.

>>131913102
>>131913264

So you're not actually a Russian, you're just pretending. You're actually a traitor to the spirit other Russians have for Russia.

You can stay right where you are, we don't need cowards.

>>131912824
Nations are so early-XX-century and we are living in 21st century, where there is no place for discrimination by nation, citizenship, religion or race. You're free to be proud of your nation, but don't try to bully others.

>>131894261
Then you won't mind those russians moving in your country, now won't you

>>131894261
Because it's my fucking country you dirty wetback.

It's MY home that I have paid taxes to and lived in all my life.

Im sorry YOUR country is such a shithole you give up on it, but that doesn't give you fucking rats the right to invade my home.

If your country is broke stand up and fix it or lie down and die.

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>>131911145
You've got to go

>>131913544
>countries are -SO- out of vogue! How unfashionable can you be?
You can get raped with a knife, faggot.

>>131912901
There is nothing criminal in being an immigrant. American immigration laws are simply obsolete and must be abolished.

>>131913534
Thank you mexi bro

>>131894261
So are all those Russians welcome then in the Ukraine?

HAHA >>131913713

>>131894261
I don't even know what shithole that gay flag represents. I don't even want to know. Just stay away from me
You radioactive turd

>>131895834
Based vlad

>>131894261
as soon as they enter without a permit they are illegally present. Nice attempt to manipulate language to control the narrative/debate. How post modernist of you.

>>131913018
Illegal are American immigration laws, from the human rights perspective. And people of color are human beings too, so they deserve the same rights American citizens have.

>>131894876
Tell me, are you still living with your parents?

>>131913826

Obey the law, or drown on your own blood like the worthless nigger you are.

>>131894876
>The country is not "your place"

Why stop there comrade? Private property should be property for all! After all, the rich have more of it. Those fat lazy asses don't deserve it. Its past time we take their property and redistribute

>>131894261
>No Person is "Illegal". Stop Xenophobia

I know someone who was born part human part firearm

libs BTFO

>>131914021
America does not violate human rights.

American citizenship is not a human right.

>>131894261

Nothing at all OP. People that can't compete complain & use fear tactics to sway the easily swayed masses. I mean its not like some person with minimum education from the third world is a threat to my employment. And if that is the case for some people on this board then they should stop being such lay cucks.

I mean this is getting pathetic now.

>>131914021
They don't deserve aby rights becauae they are criminals. They deserve jail and deportation with execution for repeat offenses.

Execution by drowning if you ask me, in the Rio Grande so their dead bodies float up in Mexico so we can make a fucking point.

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>>131913541
I'm Russian citizen (my passport attached), although I don't consider myself Russian, because the word "Russian" became an insult. I'm a human being first of all.

>>131913102
>from Putin's Nazi regime


You are not a refugee, you are just a fucking idiot, KYS

>>131914021
their are no such thing as human rights it is simply an opinion influence by brain damage levels of altruism.

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>>131913826


>Illegal are American immigration laws, from the human rights perspective. And people of color are human beings too, so they deserve the same rights American citizens have.

Jewdar is pinging hard.

>>131914251
You're a waste and should kill yourself if you abondon your country you sub human cuck.

>>131914251
>I'm a human being first of all.
I don't fucking care you icemonkey.

>>131894261
Hey Mr. Strawman.

Give me a break.

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>>131894261
>born somewhere else
>want to come to america
>but dont wanna follow our laws and our society
Hmmmm, really activates my almonds.

>>131894261
>What is wrong with illegal immigration?
The same thing that is wrong with legal immigration. More non-whites coming here isn't a good thing.

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>>131914251
This is you.

>>131913904
Ukraine
>>131913945
Looks like I hit the nail on the head there.
These retards are trying to inflict themselves on Europe AND America now?
Where's Russia, they shouldn't have allowed Ukraine to use a regional flag. Take that off them once you've restored order there, Putin.

>>131894261
>What is wrong with illegal immigration?
The results speak for themselves.

>>131913694
You may consider America your country, just like you may consider some person being your inspiration, but America is not your property.

>>131894261
>"waaah why wont your country that's infinitely better than mine take me in so i can get my gibsmedats?"
yeah, no thanks. ukrainians need to be starved to death again desu

>>131913591
As long as they speak Ukrainian language and don't carry firearms, they are welcome.

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>>131914869


Zip it Commie.

>>131914869
We built it. We can hold it.

We can destroy it.


That pretty much makes it ours, nigger.

The backwoods cabbage has had enough attention now, he's had more than his entire Russian region deserves.
You know he's just baiting for (You)'s, right?
Kinda betraying what an absolute shambles that part of Russia is these days too.

>>131914983
>don't carry firearms

HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION!

raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaape!

you racist bogot nazi!

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>>131894261

"Xenophobia" should be memed with Xenomorphs to take it away from The Left.

Archives: http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/

>>131894261
>bridges not walls
Dems don't build bridges either. Republicans build both.

It's like they've never looked at the historical infrastructure plans before. The last Democrat to focus on infrastructure was FDR and he had a developing country to work with and basically imposed his own laws like a dictator to get it done properly (which was needed).

>>131913264
They are not citizens, and therefore, should not be entitled to the rights granted to citizens.

>>131913904
see >>131914983

>>131914869
I got a 20 guage and a citizenship with full rights if you ever want to test that theory there you commie.

Scum like you need to get raped by a dude named bubby and then choked to death you ignorant cuck.

>>131915251
I KNEW you were a bigot!

>>131913264
Where do you think rights come from?

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>>131915008
>My dad has participated in building this railroad, so it is owned by me, not the Rockefeller, therefore Rockefeller has no right employing Mexican workers at this railroad.
Nice fallacy here, amerifat.

To achieve real world balance, peace, and progress we do need to have a borderless world.

>>131915234
Citizenship is a concept out of ancient Greece and Rome, where they used it to oppress non-citizens, who frequently were slaves. So abolishing citizenship is like abolishing slavery.

>>131915251
Apperently your mother never taught you this; but you don't just get something because you want it. You don't just get to scream, "but my feelings" whenever someone tells you no.

No wonder the Russians butt fucked the Crimea off you. You never deserved it if you aren't strong enough to hold it.

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>>131894261
>>131894380
>guaranteed replies

>>131915511
From fighting for them. Hope enough Mexicans get it into US, so they will force Americans to abolish citizenship discrimination.

>>131915632
>so it is owned by me

No, that is what socialist liberal niggers like you think, with your faggot "muh immigrant rights" bullshit.

YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO LEAVE UNTIL YOU CAN ENTER LEGALLY, NO EXCEPTIONS.

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>>131913945
is not radioactive, come on

>>131915962

Not going to happen.

>>131907314
>Think about some natives living in a tribe, enjoying their lives the way they do
>Oh no, here comes the turks

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>>131916172
And we hope a drunk russian gives you whats coming. A nice hollow point to the head you commie eurocuck.

>>131894261
>destroying inherit culture via culture of freedom and willingly circumventing law to fit your shitty marxist agenda.

Seriously, OP shut the fuck up.

>>131916172
Citizenship is not discrimination. It is something you have when your parents who are citizens give birth to you.

You are a Russian citizen.

<hint><hint>

>>131916221
Nope. It is you who have the right to leave, if you dislike that America welcomes everyone. Good riddance, mr Nazi!

>>131894261
Because I want it for my cousins and I want it for my children. That's it. Fuck you for acting like it makes sense to put third world hordes over your own people you broken inhuman freak.

>>131916292
It is happening already. World is becoming more liberal each day. So each day there is less space for close minded Nazis like you, amerifat.

>>131916773
Citizens is exactly the tool of discrimination, used by self entitled xenophobes to oppress non-citizens.

>>131916700
German culture continues to be the culture of Hitler and Goebbels. It needs reformation from zero point.

>>131917294
>is becoming more liberal each day.
No, immigration reversed that possibility.

It turns out that supporting millions of jobless immigrants ruins your economy.

>>131917516
You are Russian.

Go to Russia.

>>131894261
The people are not illegal. They are here illegally. We return them. Problem solved.

>>131894261
Because their ancestors who built the country wanted it for them.

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"Criminal immigrant".

>>131918466
"Built" top kek

>>131916172
Exactly, rights are hard earned and we are importing people who don't share our values.
People who don't believe in freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the separation of government and religion, the rights of gays and women.

We are entitled to our own society

>>131919409
You have no room to talk, Mr. "I have to legally use the right pronoun or go to jail."