MERKEL NO!

>>131877522
Like, who gives a shit if 2 people of the same sex marries? It's not like they are bothering anyone or interfering with the life of others. Only christcucks are against it because "muh man and womyn tradition"

She is literally the one who let the vote happen in the first place

>>131877724
Because marriage is a religious endeavour, and the function can be implemented by same sex civil unions.

>>131877522
She voted no because she knew it didn't matter. It would pass anyway.
So she pretended to be for "muh christian values" to bolster her old people stance before the election.

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>>131877771

This, this was nothing more than a publicity stunt so she can say to the German people "Look, I'm conservative, vote for me again!".

>>131877522
Why is it between a man and a woman? Because of religion.

Why is a man and a woman in a relationship a common law marriage? Because marriage is not defined by religious marriage but by the law.

So why is gay marriage defined by religious marriage? Because it is.

>yfw their incompatible logic can't hold up and in the end the victims are straight men and gay men

>>131877522
Wtf I love Merkel now

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What is wrong with her of late?

>>131877522
Name a Muslim country that does allow same sex marriage.

>>131878130
United Kingdom

>>131877522
She's just virtue signaling to the Right. A completely empty gesture.

>>131877522
don't buy it, she's trying to get re-elected

>>131877724
fuck off filthy faggot

>>131877522
She was supposed to be the leader of the Free world!! Nooooooo

>>131877522
She knows it won't pass, she's just making sure the Christian voterbase doesn't go anywhere

I'm pretty far right and I never had an issue with gays. Merkel just wants Europe to burn.

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>>131877967
This

>implying she isn't pandering to the Muslim vote

>>131877522
What a confused cunt she is. But I guess it goes hand in hand with her plan to implement Sharia law.

Wonder how all the cucks who praise her as the new leader of the free world will take this.

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>>131878301
This guy gets it

>>131878037
Because only men and women can procreate. All sexual activity outside of marriage is an abomination and the purpose of marriage is pro creation

>>131878317
The article is bait though. She never said anything against same sex marriage

>>131877522
Confirmed

Being Gay is not part of the NWO's plan

>>131878164
exactly, virtue signaling won't win our hearts

>>131877935

No it isn't. The concept of a union between two partners predates Christ by a considerable amount.

>>131878383
>purpose of marriage is pro creation
You could do that without marrying. It's not like the law dictates whether you are able to have a family without having the government's approval. Marriage is just a form of bond between 2 people that want to be with each other. Gender doesn't matter really.

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>>131877522
How can she do this? I thought she was the most left leaning leader of all? She likes the goatfuckers more than fags?

>>131878549
election time

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>>131878109
>our destiny

whose destiny? because she definitely does not mean Germans

>>131878536
>Marriage is just a form of bond between 2 people that want to be with each other. Gender doesn't matter really.

NO.

>>131877522
>literally the only thing merkel did semi right
>probably only did it to appease muslims
>nevermind.

>>131877967
>>131878268

>muh idealized white culture

You are aware this was never a thing, right? I can find modern pictures of women looking exactly the same as the upper photographs. Cherrypicking that shit is pointless and retarded.

Your understanding of history is retarded. There never was a "white paradise" full of hardworking religious white males. It was always full of alcoholics, smokers, junkies, and wifebeating mongrels. It's time to give up your children's fantasies of the past.

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>Knowing that the bill would pass she wants the center-right white vote and Muslim support
She is a professional
It doesn't matter what happens she always win

She said multiculturalism has failed over 4 times during the past 10 years, every time after she allowed millions to enter the german border.

>>131878652
you got nothin kid

>>131878619
Wouldn't that mean that she will lose the support of the SJW's and the libcucks?

>>131877522
I guess Krauts aren't completely cucked.

>>131878828
she already got their vote, they aren't going to vote Schulz because he is a israeli ''white'' male.

>>131877522
*Black man
*White woman

>>131878161
Underrated.

>>131878456
And? The culture of european marriage is something that is deeply connected to christianity, no matter what origins it has. Even then pagans would look to the gods to seal their bonds. The allowing of same sex "marriage" is just another crack in the crumbling western culture, of which we must seal if we wish for our ideals to survive.

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You wouldnt expect the leader of the free world to risk pissing off muslims would you?

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>>131878628
The Eu destiny.

>>131877935
>marriage is a religious endeavour
Why do people believe in this meme? Do they really think there haven't been marriages before their favorite cult appropriated this basic social institution?

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>>131877724

The whole point of marriage in the Western world is to normalize, promote and reward monogamy, loyalty, the presence of a father figure and a mother figure for a child to make sure they grow up in the best environment, and to promote reproduction. This is all done to preserve the traditional family unit, which is the cornerstone of any successful and stable society.

Gay marriage doesn't do any of that, in fact it goes against it. They even have "civil unions" as an alternative but they're not content with that. The idea of gay "marriage" never made any sense.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?uid=11501300&cmd=showdetailview&indexed=google
>In research with 942 nonclinical adult participants, gay men and lesbian women reported a significantly higher rate of childhood molestation than did heterosexual men and women. Forty-six percent of the homosexual men in contrast to 7% of the heterosexual men reported homosexual molestation.
>6% of married gays thought sexual fidelity was a neccesary part of marriage

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20642872
>Despite numerous attempts to bias the results in favour of the null hypothesis and allowing for up to 20 (of 63, 32%) coding errors, Cameron's (2006) hypothesis that gay and lesbian parents would be more likely to have gay, lesbian, bisexual or unsure (of sexual orientation) sons and daughters was confirmed.

>>131877522
She's a secret Muslim convert

>>131878992
>european
>christianity

Remove yourself, christkike.

>>131877522
Bullllshit. Doesn't she always do little things like this to dupe people into thinking she's somehow not trying to annihilate them?

Securing the Muslim vote. Well played.

>>131877935
>>131878652
Civil marriage exists as a legal entity within most Western countries' laws. Get bent, religious zealots.

>>131878383
So why in the name of fucking slut do I have to be common law married to a girl I date for a year?

Because your religious fucking faggotry invests itself into my life and my laws

You fuck over decent people who dont want to get cucked by alimony in common law marriage

>>131878383
>all sexual activity outside of marriage is an abomination
Translation: "I'm a lonely neckbeard virgin"

>>131877522
CAN'T URKEL THE MERKEL

>>131878777
You realize that it isn't cherrypicking, just because it hurts your feefees.

>>131880273
But it is cherrypicking.
Degenerates have always existed in all shapes and sizes. It's really nothing new. Perfect society is impossible, it's human nature to fuck things up.
We can only strive to make things better.

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>>131880487
>Degenerates have always existed in all shapes and sizes.

Yes, but they weren't celebrated or normalized. It was frowned upon so people did their best to not become degenerates, because there were often laws or stigma against it. That's how you have a successful civilization, by upholding strong societal standards.

We no longer have a culture with shame and honor where the one in a million men who is legitimately a closet faggot like Alan Turing without being groomed to be one by the media or schools would shut up and do his duty to his people. There's no Western civilization without a strong family unit and institution of marriage, and that's what Europeans will find out as they get replaced by Muslims.

>We can only strive to make things better.
Yeah except we're doing the opposite now.

>>131877952
this.

fuck merkel.

>>131881092
>Yes, but they weren't celebrated or normalized. It was frowned upon so people did their best to not become degenerates, because there were often laws or stigma against it.

There were degenerates, plenty of them. Just that how they were degenerate was normalized. Being an alcoholic was just "being one of the boys". In other words, being a drunk wastrel. While sexual promiscuity wasn't commonly flaunted in public, it was still practiced fairly regularly.

While things are different now, your picturesque vision of old times is fucking ridiculous and childish. You're basing your perception on the past with YOUR feefees because the idea that people were always shitty makes you feel sad.

There never was a white, high class noble society. It has always been and will always be mostly a society of mongrel degenerates that hide their degeneracy. That they hid it a little better 100 years ago is irrelevant.

>We no longer have a culture with shame and honor

We do, but they are espousing values of shame and honor that you don't agree with. Regardless, that you think olden cultures were all full of high noble values and were the peak of human morality makes you an idealistic naive retard.

>>131877724
Because it's an attack on the family unit, gays don't need marriage since they can't produce children.
Also it's a slippery slope toward gay adoption and surrogacy.

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>>131881432
>You're basing your perception on the past with YOUR feefees because the idea that people were always shitty makes you feel sad.

No I'm basing it on having read a lot about the subject, and just basic knowledge (seeing what the German culture that gave us Goethe, Beethoven, Mozart, Wagner, etc. has become)

Of course some people have always been "shitty" but it wasn't as encouraged, and there were a lot more social/religious norms to circumvent it. Drinking liquor isn't the same as all the modern degeneracy, and being promiscuous being closed doors isn't the same as it being promoted all over the place in media, schools, culture, laws. It is something that should be kept private.

You're the one who's so brainwashed and naive that you mindlessly bought into the "progress" meme narrative that some things weren't different or better in the past.

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>>131882560
>No I'm basing it on having read a lot about the subject

/pol/ doesn't count as an academic source, idiot. Infographics are not historical facts.

>seeing what the German culture that gave us Goethe, Beethoven, Mozart, Wagner, etc. has become

This is a prime example of your idiocy. Because even today there are brilliant composers and musicians, and according to you it's during a time when we're the most socially degenerate. I wonder if in 100 years there will be dumb faggots just like you that look at video footage of orchestras in 2017 and think "Man, things were so much more elegant back then" just like you're doing now. The difference being that in 2017, we document much more of what is actually happening so you get a clearer picture of history.

Whereas you are basing your view based on the art world and high standards pictures of perfect summer days as what the old days were like.

>Drinking liquor isn't the same as all the modern degeneracy

That's your opinion. According to many religious texts, it IS just as degenerate as sexuality. It's giving up the mind to madness. Drugs, including alcohol, are degenerate. The difference is it was normalized and considered "okay" in the culture you like, so you consider it okay too because otherwise it ruins your perfect white image of the past.

>You're the one who's so brainwashed and naive that you mindlessly bought into the "progress" meme narrative that some things weren't different or better in the past.

No, I just have a much better handle on history than you do. You're the one that skims the surface and cherrypicks what you like. Image related. Wow look at these hot old timey women! So perfect! Muh white princesses!

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>>131883512
>/pol/ doesn't count as an academic source, idiot. Infographics are not historical facts.

When did I say anything about /pol/ retard? And parts of history can be condensed in infographics even if it's not exhaustive, what a retarded point.

>complains about cherrypicking
>proceeds to cherrypick
>he unironically thinks drinking liquor is the same as any form of degeneracy like kids being encouraged to mutilate themselves or use hormone blockers when they're 10 year-old, and uses the "religious" argument for it

Having good musicians (which you can't even name) isn't the same as cultivated musical genius. There's a reason why they'll be forgotten in a couple decades, while the figures I named will live on for centuries.

And you keep strawmanning again, I never said there was a "perfect white image" of the past, or that those civilizations didn't have flaws and degenerates, I said it was to a much lesser degree.

Keep drinking the kool-aid m8.

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>>131882560
Do you want people to think you're schizophrenic? Posting images like this is how you make people think you're schizophrenic.

>>131877522
Good. She still should hang though

Merkel going after the Muslim vote

>>131877522
>liberal hero and supposed leader of the free world
Libcucks are just destined to be cucked at every turn

>>131879469
>t. Muhammad

>>131877522

If it were legalizing goat fucking, she would definitely vote yes to avoid offending Mudslimes.

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>>131885002

It's how they've been destroying civilizations for thousands of years, and led to the fall of Rome, Greece, Egypt...

But nowadays morons in the West have been brainwashed to see it as "progress". Have fun hating and forgetting your own history.

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>>131878109
It's just that time again, time for Germans to destroy Europe again.

Inb4 marriage is whatever you want it to mean. Its certainly not a societal institution that serves to further the human race and create families and harmony. Next up the zoofags will want society to recognize their feels for animals.

>>131885566
>schizophrenia confirmed

Based Merkel! I always knew she was /ourgal/. Shadilay brothers!

>>131877777

>>131878130
Sweden

>>131885566
LOL wow dude so DARE I MUTTER?....... SKITZOFRINICC LOL stop le JOOOS here knowmi say goy heheheh yah thats right

>>131877952
>"muh christian values"

muh Muslim values
ftfy

>>131877724
because they get full adoption rights

>>131877952

No, she ha been saying the same thing for years

this is weird

I thought she was a SJW about everything. what a strange thing to be "conservative" about of all things

>>131885858
you fool, she's lying.

>>131886012
She does, but Merkel's opinions also do not play into her political actions. She'll go against everything she believes in if that means she can stay in power for a little longer.

In this case she knowingly let it happen, despite thinking that it's wrong, because she would have gotten into troubles when forming a coalition afterwards. Because most other parties made that a non-negotiable demand while the CSU is outspokenly against it.
So instead she just made sure that it happens before the elections to it cannot affect her all that much anymore.

Merkel will do absolutely everything to stay in power.

>>131884693
This thread is being slided by a leftist retard

>>131879321
When you see what sort of people is against Putin it becomes hard to be against him.

>Country with the highest Muslim population in the world legalises gay marriage

What did they mean by this?

>>131877522

Too little too late, (((Merkel))).

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>>131877522
This is further proof she is a paid politician and she is playing the part. Just the other day, I was thinking about the supreme courts decision to allow gay marriage and I realized if they hadn't, hilldabeast my have won from the potential manufactured division they could have caused. Magic merk is creating division intentionally

>>131878456
Then they can confirm their union literally anywhere besides christian churches

>>131877724
English teacher detected

>>131885878
Sweden legalized adoption for gay couples in 2003. The first couple to adopt was interviewed in my local newspaper a couple of weeks back. Turns out their son is gay. What are the chances? They probably turned him gay through being ultra gay around him and maybe even having sex infront of him and shit. Maybe they even fucking him in the ass to make him gay.

>>131882560
>massive infographic
>sources are nearly all YouTube videos that can say anything they want to
>some books with no academic merit
>thezog.info
I just don't understand why people won't believe me when I talk about the Joos!

>>131877724
fuck off back to english class

>>131877724
Because it fucks up the idea of marriage. Gays are in no-wise monogamous, even the married ones. So that idea of marriage as a loose legal convenience or as just a 'home base' spreads to the idea of straight marriage, and it becomes less a time-honored institution and thus weakens it. I've seen this argued elsewhere, and, I don't have statistics but, this, together with people living together before marriage, softens the edges of it, makes people take it less seriously.

>>131877522
Fags have no place in a Muslim country

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>>131877522
I had no idea Germany was so backwards and intolerant.

It's pretty depressing.

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>>131877724
I don't believe in God, and I still know that homos don't make good parents, nor are they particularly monogamous. Gay marriage is an attack on traditionalism.

>>131878777
>It was always full of alcoholics, smokers, junkies, and wifebeating mongrels. It's time to give up your children's fantasies of the past.
But they were white and less numerous.

>>131887954
What if the kid wasn't gay and just pretended to be just to impress the parents.

>>131878549
>cdu
>christian democratic union
she is the most right-wing politician germans can vote for without being called a nazi

>>131877522
She has to keep her "conservative" status by all means because that's what she and her party are supposed to stand for.

But she was the one who made the vote possible in the first place and she knew that the majority would vote against her. Bitch knows how to fool people.

>>131889036
At this point, I wouldn't blame Germany for election a far right chancellor.

>>131883512
>Because even today there are brilliant composers and musicians
Name 5 that are on the level of Beethoven, Mozart, or Wagner?

>>131877724
quick, let's give evolutionary dead ends everything because we are so progressive
*makes heart sign with faggots*
*paints rainbow roads*
*puts non-faggot lickers out of business and in the gulag*
>glad we saved civilization

>>131877935
>>131877724
Then how about you fuckers get married in your own Churches? Not Christian ones, oh that's right you won't. You bitch about Christcucks, but then force them to abide by your demands, that go against our entire religion.

>>131877724
We really don't mind whatever the fuck 2 men do in bed. Just don't get papers and legal stuff involved.

>>131889805
Fix'd

which go against our entire religion.*

She will get rid of it by making Germany a caliphate. Don't worry.

>>131877724
Its about tax evasion you fucking english teacher.

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>>131877522
It's her fault that vote was held in the first place.
Now we have to pretend that fags have the same value for society as normal couples.

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>>131878109
>bet we have to know that we have to fight for our future and
a future for white children
She's almost there guyz

>>131877935
The difference is you see civil unions get fucked over in courts, in hospitals, etc. all the time as not being legitimate in the same way a marriage is.

If they legally functioned the same way I'd be on your side, but in practice they do not.

>>131877522
>Marriage is between indigenous Germans and African invaders
- Merkel

>>131890412
>invaders
Please. We have to fish them out of the water and ship them here and feed and house them or they would die.
This is the most pathetic invasion in history.

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>>131877522
Based caliphate

>>131878301

Muslims are such a small percentage of the votes, nobody is after them - of those allowed to vote perhaps 20% do so and they always vote conservative or most recently AfD anway - apart from some degenerate showmuslims who want to sell us the religion of peace shit who are greens / spd.

>>131890503
It's the most clever. If they were armed they would be stopped. All they had to do was walk in.

Slow and steady wins the race.

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>>131877522
Is she just doing this just for the Muslims? Or is she actually pulling her head out her ass?

>>131886012
>trusting merkel
>a leaf

now i know why you are taking it upp the ass from turdeau every day

>>131878456
>christianity is the only religion in the world
retard

>>131890361
Ive been thinking this too.
It all looks like a giant sceme to remilitarize and claim lebensraum.

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this thread is dizzy with dissonance

>I hate Muslims
>Sanctity of conservative values

Which one will you choose

>/pol/ is happy about this.

you guys do realize this is just a step for the german caliphate?

>>131877522
WHAT that's so intolerant. Apologize now

>>131890713
For the muslims. Women never work for the interest of their people.

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>>131890713

it's a symbolic gesture, she could have easily prevented the vote (I think).
She let it go on, knowing that it would pass

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You know who would be proud

>>131877522
>yfw Muslims and Nazis find out they have something in common

>>131891392
Still got to deal with the migrants tearing shit up

>>131877522
>Goym kneels down to succ

>>131877522
Now this is an interesting turn of events
The supposed leader of the free world and most progressive leader out there voted no against gay marraige

Looks like the hag's true colors have been revealed

>>131877522
Wtf is with Germany? They are all over the place...

>>131877522
Based christians

>>131881528
>>131885995

I dunno, maybe kids would be better off with lmao2dads when the alternative is a single mom

>>131890879
>Conservative western values
>Islamic values

How do you equate the two?

>>131891705
Because she is the same as a US neocon. She brought the refugees over thinking "omfg cheap labor YES" not thinking "but they're fucking Muslim"

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>>131877522
>be homosex
>can finally marry in germany
>new Germans want to murder me anyways


I'm so happy lads. Awesome!

so what was the actual outcome of the vote? Did it pass or fail?

>>131877522
Fuck Merckel, she knew it would pass, she's still on her way to ruin Germany.

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>>131892048
>Schwuchteln klatschen
Was zum Fick ich liebe die erst vor kurzem zu uns Gekommenen jetzt.
t. schon länger hier Lebender

>>131877522
its for the muslims i bet

>>131877724
I thought so, too. I thought it wouldn't matter, but it's clearly a slippery slope leading to worse and worse things. It was gay marriage, now it's tranny rights and transitioning children.

>>131892153
exactly... old hag is preventin Schultz to drag on the same sex issue and thus preventing an eventual rise in votes, but also trying to appeal to the conservative base

>>131892237
small percentage dont count.less than your nigger

>>131877522
Same sex "marriage" simply isn't marriage.
If 2 men want to share goods, live together and have sex, I really don't care, but calling it "marriage" is simply wrong.

>>131880220
Masturbation is included, you know.

>>131881092
Shit that is true.
http://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/pwh/glf-london.asp
ctrl+F "abolition"

>>131877724
Hello leaf

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>>131891498
Other races wanted to secure a future for their people as well.

Just because we are segregated from each other, or not living amongst each other, doesn't mean we can't cooperate and get along.

>>131892203
>Was zum Fick ich liebe die erst vor kurzem zu uns Gekommenen jetzt.
>what the fuck i love the ones that recently arrived to us now

i sounds kind of ok in english but in german is sounds pretty not grammatically correct, or am i wrong?

>>131895499
It's called krautsprech, you wouldn't get it anyway

>>131877522
because gay people dont make diverse mixed children

>>131877522
Lolx yeah suuuuuure.
She is the very reason this shit happened to begin with.

>>131896222
>vor kurzem zu uns Gekommenen jetzt

this sounds so wrong.

>>131877522
MERKEL IS FUCKING BASED AMIRITE PEDES? GIVE ME HER PATREON SO I CAN DONATE MY SAVINGS!

>>131878109
she's german

>>131897624
merkel chooses path of least resistance. there isn't much pressure for homo marriage in germany. so there was no reason for her to push it

She's just pandering to the Christian conservatives in her country for the election. This also panders to all of the Islamists she's brought in as well. Odds are she has no real problem with same sex marriage. She can burn just like Europe which she ruined.

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