European union thread

Freedom of movement across the EU is really great. It's too centralised at the moment, but the ideal system would be something like freedom of movement across borders with local national (or even more regional) laws. At the moment it's about halfway there.

bloated bureaucratic euro mess.

it's like the League of Nations all over again, and you know how that turned out. Unless, that was the plan all along...

Needs to be destroyed

The EU ruined my country

Reform it into a Confederation, no rushing this fucking globalist federal integration shit.

>>131875607

It should be a voluntary, co-operative trade organisation

>>131875344

If it was a union for Europeans, without mudslimes and merchants it could stay.
The way it is it can't end soon enough.

Another empire-building bureaucratic oligarchy poorly masked as a federation of democracies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGt82RFfg3U

needs major reform

>>131875919
Involving nukes and the destruction of Germany & France.

**WATCH**

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETmX8pJkrYw

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>>131875344
>Economic union turning into a Reich.
Good idea, poor execution

>>131875344
Its faggot cancer let it die.
I want my Gulden back you fuckers. And dont artificially devaluate it to ''punish'' us leaving.

Bring back borders bring back the death penalty and bring back the gas chambers

Sieg Heil!

>>131875919

Minor reform. The panic about the EU is pretty laughable.

It should stay and keep improving.

>>131875456
You're really describing Schengen area, not European union

>>131875344
It have nothing against the idea of the EU but we seriously need to change the top leadership its a fucking disgrace what they are doing.
I want a center right european leadership thats the dream.
I am from austria and if things go on like this the EU is responsible for destroying and selling out an entire continent.
Guess we need another nürnber trial since voting these EU elite cunts out is not a option.

Go back to a trade Union and restrict any lawmaking to trade. Make it fair, in the sense that weaker countries don't get fucked over by export behemoths like Germany. Most importantly, it must not undermine the member states sovereignty.

I'm not against the EU if done well. I'd like to see the European countries unite and work in the same direction.

But the actual EU is a disaster. I don't why they want to do it, but I earnestly believe they're replacing the white europeans for black africans and arabs

>>131875344
I like some things and detest some others

personally I think germany should just annex everyone and go natsoc

>>131876170

Their history is linked together. I'm not really bothered about what it's called though, just that freedom is maintained in one way or another.

>>131875344
It should never have happened.

>>131876459
>personally I think germany should just annex everyone and go natsoc
The only thing Germany can go nowadays is full jihad

We can't have less Europe, so more Europe is the only answer.

>>131875344
regrettably necessary

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there is one man we can trust

>>131875344
It should die a painful death, as should its supporters.

big corporations which are owned by the rothschilds are ruling us. nestle, gillette, kraft food, monsanto, bayer ... they are all owned by a few jews. the european union is their tool. there is no democracy at all. nobody voted for junker, schulz, merkel, the sandnigger invasion, or to pay for a greece bank ... its a dead end.

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>>131876628
>We can't have less Europe, so more Europe is the only answer.

>>131875344
Europeans will become a minority in Europe. Then the automatization, AI singularity will hit the economy hard. Europeans will have suddenly a lot of time on their hands. They will organize themselves, but because there won't be enough of them, they will have to search across their national borders. After half of Europe is in ruins and ethnically cleansed from all the variations of niggers Europe shall prosper and once again rule the world

>>131875344
Shut it down.
It was a bad idea from the start

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Merkel is the head of a NWO. It's a non-violent takeover of europe.

>>131875497
This.

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Merkel and the EU are waging economic takeover. With the Euro we've seen major changes to the value of each country. Check out this graph.

>>131876035
>slovenia

truly the mountain jews

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EU:

>Removes healthy competition in trade.
>Removes independent state institutions.
>Removes cultural traditions.

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>>131877184
is this real?

fucking germs

Fucking cancer

>>131875344
Burn it and piss on the ashes

>>131875344
It is in my interests. Working in the UK wouldn't be possible without the EU, so I will fight in its cause.

Long live the EU

>>131877224
i want to suck her tits

It might have worked if it included only first world countries in it. Germany and Greece shares the same currency, seriously?

>>131875497
You did that to yourself

The euro was a good idea. But it didn't work out as it was meant to

>>131877224
Here's some more:
>imports all of Africa and Asia into Europe
>all communist practices that used to function at some level start going to shit
>replace native populations with genocidal speed
>turn the cradle of civilization into a cesspool of degeneracy

>>131877601
Greece was more first world than Germany before the EU.

>>131877717
or it worked just perfect, it sure benefited your elites

>>131875344
Eu would be best thing ever if it was nationalist and anti immigration. But EU courth of justice blocks deportation of asylum seekers and allows in immigrants.

>>131875456
>Freedom of movement across the EU is really great.

Yes, but it doesn't require shared currency, bank, flag, anthem, domain, President, joint responsibility and soon army.

Also I don't like the idea that there are some faceless people in another country whose name nobody even knows, making decisions what's best for me or how many nigger I have to take in.

Fuck EU. We don't need it to be friends and allies with each others.

>>131875344
it should have stayed a trading bloc for goods and not try to become fourth reich

>>131877799
Yeah man, I'm not saying we are the innocent. We were fucking borrowing money like crazy.

>>131875497
You went left on your own.

>>131877601
No it would never worked.
It is based on the destruction of Italy. If was a Mitterun-German plot to make a germanfrankreich (in exchange of that kohl raided east germany and gave it to the german oligarchs) on the shoulders of Italy.
Euro was a trojan horse.
They had to let all countries in to hide reality.
An french are so retard that they even lost at their game.

>>131877957
it stll would have tanked sooner or later though, it's literally Yugoslavia all over again just this time Germany is Croatia//Slovenia and Greece is Kosovo/Macedonia

>>131875344
We need EU but:
- needs to be optimized in all areas
- currently too many fags and bullshit around
- also needs limits, e.g. Turkey and Ukraine should never be allowed to join due to geographic location
- EU borders need to be protected FIERCLY. I dont want limitless niggers and arabs coming here. If they dont fix that border thing EU will fall apart, cause most people think like me on the illegal immigration issue. Rather leave EU than being forced to take tons of shitskins into your country

>>131878150
Hmm, I've never thought of this before.

By the way guys, if I'm not being annoying all over again, what do foreigners think about the relationship between Greece and FYROM? Do they know that truth or they just believe straight ahead what they are told to believe. Thanks.

>>131878267
>We need EU
No, only you krautshits do

>>131878267
The border think is true. Italy/Greece can't control their borders. And with Erdogan in particular, he is holding a gun at Greece's head and basically Europe's head with all that releasing refugees shit. That guy needs to be stopped

>>131878507
Thing*

>>131876826
Bauch
Brille
Bart

-> 100% "Martin"...please no.

>>131878011
It was right-wing pro-capitalist parties that dragged them to that direction.

>>131878507
Bullshit.
We can.
We can kick them all and arrest ngo members, but we have a govern of traitors.

>>131875344
Reform it into European socialist union.

>>131875344
Hello pajeet. I can detect you even behind your flag. Hiding is no use.

>>131878674
Everybody can. La vera domanda è questa: perché non lo fatte?

>>131877717
Greece cheated on EUR application, thats why they are such a mess nowadays and we have to save them every 3 years. They shouldnt have joined our monetary union in the first place

>>131878875
Abbiamo un governo di traditori che vogliono il male dell'Italia e la sua completa distruzione.

>>131878884
It's true. We didn't meet the requirements. The thing that might have pushed us to join the EU is the fact that we needed and still need allies. I don't really know though.

I wonder what (((they))) plan for NWO now if EJew failed.

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>>131878687
It is already a socialist union.
No need for reform.

>>131878941
Va bene. Ho capito. La situazione in Grecia non è molto diversa.

>>131875344
>Whats all your thoughts on the European union
Good idea in theory, sorely lacking in practice
>should it stay or split apart
If it's reformed so that nation-states retain primacy, it can stay, but if it continues on the path of supranational neoimperialism it'll collapse sooner or later.

>>131878452
It has a lot of "subtile" smaller advantages that are not often communicated in the media, e.g. Standardization, Norming or shared projects in R&D.

Thats the kind of stuff in the EU i want and also keep cause it makes sense and is good.

>>131878941
Aqui es lo mismo

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It's a good idea, but it needs radical reform.
Compared to the UK's Union the EU is godlike.
t. scotland

>>131879086
The EU suffers from a great deal of democratic deficit. For instance the migrant crisis is a perfect example - I am certain that if a Union wide referendum was held with the question "Do you want to accept refugees on EU soil?", the outcome would be overwhelmingly NO. But the Commision and certain leaders of member-states (looking at you, Germany) took it upon themselves to FORCE everyone to take migrants.

If the EU is to survive, it needs to start including popular will into it's decision-making process.

>>131878884
This is such a joke considering that Europe made several country vote again and again up to three times to get the result they wanted ie them joining in some cases they even ignored the no vote if it was the majority.

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>>131876035
>Belgium

>>131879033
Ma questi sono problemi legati ai vostri paesi, non incolpate l'UE per l'incompetenza dei vostri politici

>>131875344
as parekh pointed out in terms of globalization, or mini versions of it, as in the EU, it is "remote, bureaucratic, oppressive, and culturally bland"

>>131879086
Are you seriously that retarded?
You think there would be no Standardization without the EU?
look at Switzerland

And Btw Switzerland had a trade agreement with china before the EU had one. Really shows you a lot.

EU is just a bunch of useless politicians and bureaucrats, they just want tax payer money, cause they wouldn't be useful in a free market.

When you are unable to be a productive part of society you can still become a politician and get free money.

>>131879448
Ma ho detto qualcosa di brutto per l'UE? Io credo che, come un' idea, sia buonissima ed potrebbe funziona.

>>131879302
Eu just needs to die.

Unelected politicians making brain dead decisions, i don't see value lost when the EU will finally vanishes

>>131875344
eu has some great stuff,such as free movement,better trade.but it fucks up the people in economy.plus eu can destroy europe demographically.such things are visible in greece,bulgaria,spain and romania where the population is shrinking because of immigration to northern eu countries.also the mishandling of refugees and obligating other eu countries to keep them without the will of the people.shortly it shouldnt remain,and if it would it needs MAJOR REFORMATIONS.

>>131878630
source??

>>131879019
Christian conservative coalition is in control of EU.
Not socialists.

>>131879699
Eh, it has it's good sides as well, it can be salvaged, but time is running out...

So what the fuck are we gonna do? Destroy the EU and head back to the years when a brand new world War between the countries was a potential threat. Do you people realize that other than the fact that EU has something to do with a local economic union it is also a military alliance? If we all go batshit then shit's going to happen.

>>131879581
Nein du Spast ich hab fundierte Ahnung.

>>131880068
Kann man leider nicht erkennen

>>131875344
As a proud German I support the EU. Europe should be punished for its past and present bigotry. I am a proud German and a proud cuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v34zOmHi6v0 this is the EU

>>131878507

It would be easy to stop them but there's no will in Europe/Italy/Greece to do that.

>>131879952
You are larping right?
You talk about reform, this refers to the system not to the current control of parliament.

And the system is already socialistic with billions of money redistributed according to the will of unelected politicians.

The System has nothing to do with who is currently in control of the elected parliament.

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>>131879181
Faggot

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4th german reich when?

>>131877254
Of course, germany are printing money and exporting their debt to other eurozone countries.

Why do you think it was such a big deal when Greece happened and they had a debate about leaving eurozone. Remember how Merkel sperged out?

If they did they could just devalue their Drachma, and tie ends together like they would always did.

But that would bounce all the debt in greece to germoney so they sperged out.

>>131880836
won't happen
there are too many migrants for economic growth in Germany, they will raise taxes to keep money flowing for gibs to migrants so they won't riot.

>>131880950
Most greek bonds were held by french banks btw.
Merkel is just dumb and wants to save the currency .

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>>131876035
>racist
We're not racist, we're just in a permanent bad mood because all our neighbors are retarded.
Niggers, gooks, gypos and shitskins are not welcome, btw.

>>131875344
I want to get off mr. Juncker's wild ride.

>>131875344
Crush it and reform it as a Trader's Union, not a Trans-national Orwellian Remote-controlling Nation.

When it becomes an islamic caliphate we will nuke it.

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>>131875497
You did it yourself.

Don't mind the while trading with everyone meme. That's all it needs. I'm against the free movement of people. That's just a disaster that has unfolded. Oh yeah. Get rid of all the bullshit unelected elite crap too.