National Libertarianism
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>>131832702
>National Libertarianism
This is essentially me. Our people can do what they want in a nationwide free market, but all other countries fuck off.
>>131832870
I agree, internationalist capitalism is shit too, I not only do not want your shit people in my country but I also want your shit products out.
i like the idea but how do we make it feasible?
Congratulations you discovered Traditionalism.
>>131832702
Country = State
>>131832702
basically me, assuming that what you suggest implies an ethno state
can the free market co exist with a white ethnostate? A lot of White Nationalists seem to think socialism is a better option from what ive seen.
>>131832702
Isn't this just traditionalism, like feudal Europe?
Everyone's xenophobic of other countries, even other villages, the government has terrifying power but hey you can build a shack and live in it without owing anything to anyone.
>>131832702
>National Libertarianism
It's pretty much the original intent of the founders.
>>131834123
no bud property rights are a big thing for the snek guys
>>131833841
so youre a world without borders kind of guy, a?
>libertarians are okay with this
>>131832702
It's an oxymoron.
>>131834381
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8&t=19s
yes he is a nigger
>>131834296
Property rights were a big deal in feudal Europe all the same - providing you were a free man. Even more so under English constitution.
>>131834123
>the government has terrifying power
>libertarianism
lol wut. National libertarianism is is about a small state society with a constitution that preserves the liberties (including property rights) of the people while maintaining a strong border. That's how I see it, at least. But it has nothing to do with a big government in all cases
>Isn't this just traditionalism, like feudal Europe?
It's nothing like feudal Europe. The fuck outta here with this meme
>>131833874
>ethnostate
>libertarian
The amount of government oversight required with respect to enforcement would inevitably give way to socialism, and in turn, societal decline.
>>131834467
>libertarian fascism
An oxymoron
>>131834381
>It's an oxymoron.
No it's not.
I leave you alone. You leave me alone. But we agree that if someone tries to fuck with us we'll work together to fuck them up. Codify that in legal terms and you get minimalist federalism with extreme emphasis on personal freedom. Which is basically the original intent of the founders.
>>131833874
>>131834531
Voluntary ethno-states are the way to go. If you disagree then you don't believe in freedom of association, which makes you not a libertarian.
>>131834090
It's possible, but usually state-enforced ethic communities tend to be very collectivist, which causes socialism.
>>131834531
doesnt mean 100% european im not autistic
just that it has regards for the ethnic composition of the country and tries to maintain it
>>131832702
Considering that literally hangs over our House of Representatives, I'm pretty sure that's what America is supposed to be
>>131834683
>No it's not.
Yes, it is.
Either you believe the state has the right to intervene in people's lives to protect them and enforce itself or you're a libertarian. If you believe in both you're the prime hypocrite.
The system as you envisage it leads to individuals who don't care about the group running through loopholes in legislation or defacto loopholes present when the state doesn't have the resources to enforce itself (which in a pragmatic worldview means that it effectively doesn't exist). By not getting directly involved in the economic lives of citizens, the state has no power to enforce the elements that YOU want in your hypocritical worldview. Either the state increases control or it loses control, and that means that it is nonviable in pragmatic terms. It's an oxymoron.
>>131835355
Yet another person who mistakes libertarianism for anarchy. Every fucking time, I swear.
>>131832702
Nice joke OP youre a funny guy.
>>131835557
Why is it then that every time a libertarian worldview is envisaged or implemented in any form, it ALWAYS degenerates away from it? Your "libertarian" worldview shares the same fatal flaw as Marxism: it can only work if EVERYONE has the same moral system and work ethic as you. All it takes is one person to exploit the system and everything falls apart.
And It's notable that you completely ignore the points made in the second paragraph. If I was mistaken about libertairanism by believing it was anarchism, then why is it that I talk about the "state" in real terms in the second paragraph. If there was a state then it's not anarchism.
You're full of shit.
>>131836077
ill call myself a conservative if thats what you want buddy
as long as the gov is fairly small and im not invaded by non-white, you can call me whatever the fuck you want
>>131832702
If they modified the flags, this is what I'd go to. However, it should be clearer. Would it be better with the same anarchist "wedge" pattern, but with a simplified coiled rattlesnake all the way on one side and a single erect fasces all the way on the other side?
Could there be crossed fasci under a stylized but more spectacular (like an Apple key) snake?
How can the snake be made less naturalistic? Does it work for him to face the viewer head-on? Is there an ethnic stylizing that can be applied to rattlers?
>>131832702
civic-national libertarianism or ethno-national libertarianism?
>>131832702
i don't know what to identify anymore... i suppose i am an independent. rate my political-ideology
>whites/europeans = best and smartest people ever; contributed more to humanity than anyone else
yes
>abortion is immoral; should be outlawed under 99.999 percent circumstances
yes
>globalism is bad
yes
>free-market is bad
yes
>communism/bolshevism/leninism/socialism/collectivism shit is bad
yes
>nationalism is bad
no but civic-nat is jewbullshit
>jews are from satan
100000000000000000001 percent yes
>niggers, chinks, arabs, jews, gooks, gypsies, etc-non whites are bad
yes
>racewar?
no
>constitution is a living bullshit
NO
>constitution is super-duper important #dontthreadonme
YES
>Jesus is God
YES
>Hitler was a dindu
yes
>illumati, cp, pizzagate, nwo, satan, nehpilum, aliens, xfiles, government is bad, elites, jews, rothchilds, rockerfellers, deepstate, cia, spy, 1984, bnw, all real
yes without a doubt
>there should be property tax
yes
>borders are good
yes
>we should mind our bizniz
yes
>drugs are bad
yes, but who cares
>repeal most stupid laws
yes
>women should have no rights
yes
>women should only be virgins and marry 1 man
yes
>gays should be banned
yes
>big corporations owners should be held for treason
yes
>no irs, cia, fbi, nsa, etc
yes
>medicine should bet nationalized with opt-in, individual freedom and alternative medicine should be researched more/3rd party insurance privately is ok
yes, sure
>guns are great
hell ye
>no censorship
i agree
lulz
>>131840124
for property tax i meant to make it one time tax and that is all; i should also add
>get rid of federal reserve; restore gold standard?
yes
Private helicopters publicly dropping commies.
I'm down.
Small government good. Big government very bad. Press is a daily episodic traitorious theater show. Jews run banking, entertainment, most of DC, our food, oil, porn, courts, high ranks in military. Etc.. and I couldn't be happier, it's about to all fall down or erupt into divisive hysterical violence.
>>131832702
oxymoron. The preservation of national identity takes authoritarian means. Sure you can like your nation in a libertarian society, but that isnt nationalism.
>>131840537
>Press is a daily episodic traitorious theater show. Jews run banking, entertainment, most of DC, our food, oil, porn, courts, high ranks in military. Etc.. and I couldn't be happier, it's about to all fall down or erupt into divisive hysterical violence.