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Explain to my why the fuck it's so bad that Trump likes Russia?

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Russia seems to be doing pretty well right now. Helping fight terrorists in the ME and moving towards a better capitalist economy.

I just don't see the problem people have with Trump and Putin being brosephs when the only outcome will be a better world for all of us.
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/30/russia-engaged-in-information-warfare-in-us-senator-says.html

- Kremlin sees US as weak.

- Russia hacked thousands of U.S. officials, both Democrat and Republican.

- Russia has activated thousands of bots and paid trolls to spread fake news on social media, supported by profiteers.

- Russia has activated thousands of bots and paid trolls to spread fake support for Trump on social media, supported by profiteers

- Russia has activated thousands of bots and paid trolls to divide the Democratic caucus, supported by profiteers.

- RT and Sputnik News push state-sponsored propaganda through bots and social media to get it trending on Twitter, so it will go viral.

- Voter rolls were hacked to identify voters to target with disinformation.

- Trump was working with Russian disinformation outlets to validate news stories known to be fake.

- Russians were able to successfully flood social media and specifically target key demographics such as Christians or outspoken patriots with disinformation, then duplicate counterfeit versions of the same accounts they targeted in order to amplify the spread of disinformation. Like attracts Like.

- Russian disinformation and the Trump campaign effectively pushed the "election rigging" meme, while simultaneously engaging in the act of trying to influence the election by illegal means.

- Senator Wyden is seeking Trump's tax returns, and has the legal authority to subpoena them, if necessary.

- Russia uses business networks to influence political actors.

- Private American businesses that oppose the Russian agenda are being attacked using tactics designed to negatively impact their stock prices.

- Bots and trolls engage in "click fraud" (i.e. computer-automated visits to their own disinformation pages) to push them to page one in search engine results.

- Mainstream media sometimes unwittingly published Russian propaganda because it was "trending."
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Because there always has to be a boogey-man to fall back on when Israel (u.s. media run by jews) commits more war crimes and steals more palestine land. If there's someone who can be the fall-guy as being the enemy, then Russia is the easiest target because muh cold war. Anytime Israel fucks up, their crimes will seem less in comparison to the REAL enemy. Get it?
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>>131816943
It's not. In fact, it's a good thing if true. The world would be better off if Russia and America were allies.

There are many wualities I appreciate about the Russian people and policies.

Libs hate them because Russia is the last Bastian in the way for the globalists.
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>>131818032
what is a proxy
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- The United States was completely caught off-guard, and had no mechanism in place to combat the Russian disinformation campaign. By the time people became aware of the campaign, it had achieved its objective.

- Russia successfully ran practice missions prior to executing the operation against the United States, in once case convincing a town that its chemical plant had been attacked by ISIS when it had not, by using text messages and social media targeted to their region and demographics.

- The GOP primaries were influenced by Russian disinformation, and Marco Rubio was specifically named as a target.

- Vladimir Putin will continue to attack the US in this manner.

- Vladimir Putin wanted Trump to win, but if Trump lost, planned to continue to attempt to discredit Hillary Clinton.

- "Trump Honeys" (i.e., scantily-clad young women appearing outside of Trump campaign events in Trump regalia) were hired and deployed all over the country by front companies to influence Trump support using a classic "honeypot" scheme.

- Fake crimes by refugees, specifically rapes, were fabricated by Russia and spread throughout NATO countries.

- Russia is actively working to influence ALL far-Right political parties throughout NATO countries, and executing operations similar to the one in the United States to discredit political moderates throughout NATO, on an ongoing basis.

- Putin will continue unless we take positive steps to fight back.

Everyone else is reporting it too, and there's information about the Kremlin launching the same disinformation cyberattack against Ukraine, too:
http://www.ibtimes.com/russian-cyberberkut-hackers-link-isis-ukrainian-weapons-negotiations-qatar-russian-2195165

It's clear Putin is treating the US like an enemy. It's high treason for Trump to sell us out to our enemies. But the right-wing conservatives are too busy sucking Putin's cock and worshiping the Kremlin to do anything about it.

The only patriots left in America are the liberals
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>>131818032
How about some proofs, you cuck
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Putin is literally using his state to commit crimes against US citizens. The traitors - for which there is criminal evidence - are:
Michael Flynn
Carter Page
Jeff Sessions
Jared Kushner
Donald Trump Jr.
Rex Tillerson
Wilbur Ross
Roger Stone
J.D. Gordon
Michael Caputo
Rick Gates
Ivanka Trump
George Papadopoulos
Donald Trump
Erik Prince

Hopefully we'll get a couple impeachments and criminal indictments against the rest.

>OPM got hacked during Obama's watch. What did he do?
He outlined to Chinese president Xi the big hammer he was about to drop on China and suddenly the hacking dropped sharply:
https://www.wired.com/2016/12/obama-russia-hacking-sanctions-china/

>Crimea was annexed during Obama's watch. What did he do?
Put tough sanctions on Putin's inner circle of oligarchs so they can't funnel graft our of Russia and laundering it in Western banks any more. That's why Putin is suddenly so keen on bitcoin - his GRU has amassed quite a few from all that ransomware.

>It was Obama who told the russian he would have more "flexibility" after his reelection.
To negotiate terms of a missile agreement. Since Russia's invasion and occupation of Eastern Russian and Crimea, former SSRs have been increasingly nervous about being invaded by power-mad Putin. Obama wanted anti-missile batteries but the former SSRs (Poland, Estonia) want conventional NATO troops and artillery deployed, so it made sense for Obama to reach a middle ground that made Russia less unhappy and the former SSRs slightly happier.

The Kremlin is launching cyberwarfare attacks against the US, stealing sensitive data, hacking US servers, launching disinformation campaigns and trolling social media with web brigade armies and Putinbots.

Meanwhile Trump has instructed Tillerson to be good friends with the Russians, the right-wing conservatives are on their knees worshiping the Kremlin and taking turns sucking Putin's cock

The liberals are the only patriots left in America now.
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>>131818883

https://archive.is/37B6e
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They will blame Draft our Daughters on Russia.

Im waiting on any real proof.
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True words OP. Putin seems to want a cooperation
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>>131818032
>Only Russia does this.

America has killed leaders of countries.
Fuck Russia and its internet troll shit. That's all it is.
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Russia is not our friend.

Russia has literally thousands of nuclear missiles pointed directly at the US.
Putin spent years as a KGB agent with expertise in the tradecraft of propaganda and psyops. Putin has his own world domination agenda. It starts with fooling conservatives into hating their own people, their culture, their own leaders, their government, etc.

A properly-manipulated easily-conned conspiracy-believing idiot US president could be very helpful to Putin in achieving his goals, but it would be very harmful to the US.

Kremlin threads attack western degeneracy as part of far-right propaganda campaign. The Russian social media trolls try to make "the West" seem like it's degenerate to trigger the far right fascists. Works like a charm on /pol/.

That explains the thousands of "degenerate" threads on /pol/ everyday.

All the Capitalism, communism, Marxism threads
All the cultural marxism, SJW and degeneracy threads
All the Russia is good, West is bad threads
All the White Supremacist and Minority hate threads
All the "Suka Blyat dindu nuffin" threads.
All the "no pwoofs no pwoofs" threads
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>>131818462
>Fake crimes by refugees, specifically rapes, were fabricated by Russia and spread throughout NATO countries
kek
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Wow. Did you just herd all share.Blu into one thread?
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>>131818973
>They will blame Draft our Daughters on Russia.
It was Republican congressmen who introduced the legislation, not Clinton.
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/02/04/two-republican-congressmen-introduce-bill-draft-our-daughters.html

But the fake memes did seem obsessed with Russia and Putin, as if they were orchestrated by a foreign power.
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>>131816943
>the right wing retard doesnt understand foreign policy
color me surprised
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>>131816943
Most of America doesn't see a problem with it either, that's why the media's lie about Trump/Putin is backfiring.
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>>131819844

I do my best.
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>>131819358
Russia is more of a friend to me than democrats.
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>>131818462
This guy gets it. The Russians are behind everything pro-American and nationalist, to trick us into bettering our own country. Hopefully the liberals will save us from this nationalism and replace American citizens with foreigners once and for all
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>>131816943
Trump doesn't like Russia, he wants a detente because it should benefit the US citizens.
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>>131816943
>Trump likes Russia
So far he has done literally nothimg to show that. Actually all evidence leads to the opposite. Which is kind of dissapointing
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https://youtu.be/DZeJHwBe550
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>>131816943
Honest reason to dislike Russia:
The Russians annexed Crimea just because the Ukrainians elected someone that the Russians didn't like. Russiafags will make the argument that Crimea had a majority Russian population, but they forget two little details - one, why wasn't Crimea's Russian population brought up when the border between Ukraine and Russia had the chance to be redefined during the collapse of the USSR 20 years ago, and two, would you consider this argument to be valid for Chechnya? And the answer to both of those basically amounts to "A Russian pissed in an alleyway there once, so it's forever Slavic clay." No different from how Turks claim that Anatolia is rightfully theirs and not the native Greek population's.

But while that's a genuine reason to dislike Russia, that's not the Media's reason.

Because the Democrats have been in bed with Russia for a long time. With the commies during the Cold War, and with the new western friendly regime post-Cold War. Hillary Clinton herself was selling off US uranium stocks to Putin back in the Obama administration. Serious stuff.
It's all projection. The Democrats are the real pro-Russia faction, not Trump.

That being said, I support a friendlier relationship with Russia and Putin. We should be working together on issues that we share in common - like islamic terrorism, continued advancements in space travel, and countering the anti-USA and anti-Russia EU - as well as trying to solve problems like Ukraine with diplomacy and compromise.

Like, for example, when the USA won the Mexican-American War and annexed a bunch of (mostly unoccupied) Mexican clay, we payed them the modern equivalent of $415 million for the land. We at least pretended it was a fair exchange to bring a concrete end to the question of ownership. Russia should do something similar for Crimea, just to do the 'sign treaty to make it legal' thing. Once money has exchanged hands, Ukraine can't complain, right?
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