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Is he right?
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>>131815959
yes
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>>131815959
as long as they're white
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>>131815959
Nobody deserves to die... all lives matter
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>>131815959

i wasn't aware that it was the government's role to vainly try to prevent my inevitable death.
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>>131815959
yes
but under the universal truth that only whites are people
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People with cancer don't deserve to die. Tough shit.It's not feasible
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>>131816085

This, it's the whiteness that's key here, but if you're a jobless parasite, perhaps you should reconsider whether you're actually white or not.
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>>131815959
this is a fact that the whole world has realized but the united semites still hasn't for some reason
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>>131815959
ask him if all lives matter
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>>131816206

You were unironically unaware that the government thinks it's bigger than God?
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>>131815959

They don't deserve to die, but they don't deserve free health care either.
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>>131816085
lmao
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>>131815959
But everybody dies. Of course he's implying preventable death but you can't make generalisations about that. It's such a meaningless statement.
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>>131816206
>government's role
no, it's role is to give billions to the military industrial complex to bomb tents in some desert half the world away
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>>131816118
Good one.
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>>131815959

So why doesn't he sell one of his houses to pay for the poor people in the next town over?
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>>131815959
Honestly? Probably in a way. Those who really get fucked by the system are those who actually work but don't earn enough to pay for health care.

The porch monkeys of Detroit get free everything because of hand me outs.
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>>131815959
so he is saying the poor are so contemptible that they don't even deserve death as a release?
they must be forced to continue to live, to suffer more?
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Who pays for it then?
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>>131816206
This
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>americans
>people
pick 1
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nah
a doctors time/work isnt a right
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>>131816534
You wuz kangz and shit.
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>>131815959
Just out of curiosity, who is it deserves to die? Asking for the goyim.
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>>131815959
Not deserving of death, but the fuck else were they spending money on if not to take care of themselves?
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>>131815959
They don't deserve to die anymore than they deserve the right to rob you at gunpoint to pay for their preventable disease.

I say that sitting here with a purple ankle the size of a bowling ball.
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>>131815959
the good thing is bernie will get free healthcare when he goes to prison.
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No one deserves to be homeless. No one deserves to be hungry. No one deserves to be lonely.

Time for the federal government to issue free houses, meals, and spouses!
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>>131816534
Hmmm... I guess the government is doing it's job after all
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>comrade Barney panders
>right
No, he is an fagt
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>>131815959
>lions who cant hunt doesnt deserve to starve
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>>131816085
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>>131815959
if bernie and all his liberal friends are ready to pay out of their own pocket for it be my guest. Make it a check box on your tax return. Im done paying for the welfare state
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>>131817178
Also, Comrade Sanders needds to keep the gun out of the taxpayers faces like the little fucking globalist faggot he is
Not on my dime motherfucker, I have a family to take care of.
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>>131815959
Better question is do they deserve to live off of somebody else's hard work? If it's self inflicted "disease", then no. Can they work? Then no.
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>>131816534
Nice false equivalency, ya dumb cocksucka.
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>>131815959
Yes... but it's a non-sequitur... they have nothing to do with one another.

Very few people *deserve* to die. This has absolutely nothing to do with other people being obligated legally or ethically to provide for them.
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>>131815959
>Bernie Sanders says something.
>Whatever Bernie Sanders said is wrong.

Pick two.
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>>131815959

Bernie loves retard logic, doesn't he?

Why are liberals so fucking gay?
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>>131817603
This. Make it voluntary then see how many people actually give a shit.
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Americans are a bunch of fearmongers aren't they?
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>>131815959

>Says the (((socialist))) who lives in his castle depending on money from gibs like a literal nigger
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>>131815959
>is a jew
>promotes humanism
IMAGINE MY SHAWK
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>>131815959
>deserve to die
no. doesn't mean that illegals should be jamming up the E.R.s just because they have a cold or a runny nose or they need free band-aids.
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All these people saying otherwise will be singing a different tune when its their life on the line.
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>>131816085
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>>131816745
>Your flag
>Your comment
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>>131816206
The cost of health care in the US was estimated at $3 trillions in 2012. That's $10,000 per inhabitant per year.

I think that's much too expensive for most people.
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>>131815959
> But as a socialist I deserve 2 summer homes
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>>131815959
People die, deserved or not. Nature is harsh and cruel and we delude ourselves into believing it does not apply to us. It does. And socialism is just envy dressed up as "equality." It's "those fuckers have shit I don't have, and I want it. If I complain loud and long enough, the state will take it from them and give it to me." Sure, they say it's the rich providing for the poor. But I'm not rich, and third of my paycheck goes to shit like this. Fuck Boinie. If he wants people to have free healthcare, he should sell his three houses and his Ferrari and open a free healthcare clinic. Otherwise he can fuck off.
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he is right, a lot of people who can afford it, like him, deserve to die.
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Every. Body. Dies.
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>>131815959
the fucking jews are behind the healthcare and pharmaceutical industries. what do you expect is going to happen? how much money does the irs and local state tax people to death too? you are telling me we can't afford nationalized health insurance? there is no incentive? bunch of nigger shit. meanwhile our property taxes go to niggers, jews, and spicks. what a fucking joke. fuck sanders too. fucking jews = problem, solution, resolution, problem. motherfucking bill gates has billions, soros has billions, rothchilds have trillions. telling me you can't help people with cancer or niggers disease. WHAT A FUCKING JOKE. Hitler was right when it came to this:
>JEWS CARE ONLY ABOUT ONE THING
>$HEKELS
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>>131818352
no, I buy my own health insurance.
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>>131815959
Many that die deserve life, many that live deserve death.
Can you give it to them?
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>>131818104
Comes from living in a safe society. Most of America is a safe place to live. But we're hard wired as a species to be alert for danger. When it surrounds you and isn't hard to find, people are matter of fact about it. But when it's safe, some folks become almost paranoid looking for danger.
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healthy people deserve to have more kids.

government fucks with darwinism.
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>>131815959
Depends on the situation.
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Truth is nobody deserves anything and its all a crapshoot. At least thats what I tell my crippled ass.
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>>131815959
The laws of nature fundamentally disagree with you Mr. Sanders.
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>>131815959
people are responsible for their own preventative healthcare, it's actually rather exceptional that medical care can 'cure' or prevent death or suffering from disease. They typically just delay the inevitable, or over medicate with opiates or other powerful drugs to reduce suffering. Otherwise, for all intents and purposes you alone are responsible for your own health. You need to control your diet, you need to exercise - these two things along with prevent virtually all disease. In the unfortunate and unlikely event you are diagnosed with an ailment beyond your control, your provider can provide you with some measure of comfort, but that's about it.

With all this talk of healthcare and it being made available for all people, if they truly were interested in the health of the country they would be arguing for heavy investments into preventative medicine, which there is none. This is just a dumb scam to prop up the for-profit healthcare system. Billions of dollars propping up the death-fat obese with frankenmedicine for maximum profit, they are not interested in preventative care in the slightest.
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I deserve to die
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>>131815959
What they do or don't "deserve" doesn't matter. They don't have a right to demand money or services from anyone else.
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>>131815959

Of course.

Oh, wait, he said 'die'?
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>>131815959
Nobody deserves to die, yet we all will die at some point.
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>>131818569
It's the millions of broke fucks who get 40k in dyalisis treatment a year from 30 til they die that inflate the bill for any reasonable healthy adult.
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>>131815959
Everyone deserves to die.
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Yes, he's right.

Consider: our healthcare is exorbitantly expensive, and prices are massively over-inflated for every part of it, simply to gouge the population for obscene profits.

How does this falsely inflated market for healthcare correlate at all to a persons economic viability or worthiness to survive?
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>>131823015

Nihilist / Socialist detected
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>>131815959
healthcare kills more people than any other cause.

he is wrong and retarded
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>>131815959
What a retarded statement, it takes no mention of the fact that there will be always be a large amount of people demanding more and more expensive care for little societal benefit. And that cost is passed down to the actually productive members of society. Universal healthcare only works if you practice eugenics.
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>>131815959
No, they do. Otherwise they could afford it.
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>>131815959

>"people who can't afford health care do not deserve to die" says barney sandals to his horde of gullible goysheep followers
>before returning to his thousandth reading of the Communist Manifesto, wherein it is said "people who can afford health care do not deserve to live"
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>>131815959

How many hospitals refuse service to someone in mortal danger because they can't pay?

They save them first and work out payment later.
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I unironically believe that universal healthcare will be better for this country.

The system we have now is Jewish incarnate.
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>>131824057
They did not always do this until the government started paying for it.
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>>131822930
How do you fix this then?
Employ a fascist state?
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Thank chocolate Jesus for Obamacare. You young edgy people don't remember the days where every city had a communal fire pit for the millions dying daily from minor infections and the cold.
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>>131824488
That's just the thing. If you're stupid enough to buy into the Democrats' narrative, this is the way you might picture America before the ACA.
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>>131815959
No one deserves anything, that's just the way it is.
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>>131818569
It is for the young people who aren't getting sick anyway. If only there were a system that allocated funds from people using a service to those providing it
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>>131815959
If you don't work for the zionist-anglo jew world order you deserve to die
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>>131815959
Nobody can truly afford health care.
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>>131824366
1) Teach the poor urban dwellers that ER's aren't your go-to for a fucking cold

2) Stop paying for illegal immigrant medical needs via medicaid (currently happening)

3) Stop paying for refugee and permanent resident medical needs via medicaid (Trump just did this I believe)

This will drastically cut down both healthcare costs and the burden placed on medicaid
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>>131815959
People who can afford healthcare don't deserve to live, either. They just have resources they've chosen to use for healthcare.
'Deserves has got nothing to with it.
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>>131817770
i see what you did with that """""logic."""""
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>>131815959
I agree, also people should not be forced to pay for other people´s healthcare
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>>131820332
There's always exercise.
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>>131815959
Cool story Bernie, maybe you should take some off the money you got from defrauding people and start a charity which provides health care to the needy.
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>>131826801
Lel. Well memed.
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>>131815959
Yes, and that's why we don't execute people for not having health care.
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>>131815959
deserve's got nothing to do with it
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>>131815959
People who drink their livers into cirrhosis, smoke their lungs into cancer, and eat their bodies into diabetic comas sure fucking do.

I'm don't want to pay for your slow suicide.
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>>131815959
No, most who die when they can not afford not to are a waste. They are dependent and lazy and have no virtue. Let nature take its course!
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Yes they do shut up Bernie
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>>131815959
What this old commie fuck leant realize is there are plenty of inexpensive ways to lower healthcare costs.
I can even list them.
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>>131815959
That's the thing
Everyone dies, kike
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Why do libshits all believe this fucking idea that if they don't have health insurance they are going to die? Eat a fucking salad and go on walk every now and then. Don't be a fat fuck and you'll probably be ok.
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>>131815959
Everyone dies Bernie no one deserves it except people that don't use their fucking turn signal
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>>131818352
All these people that say otherwise take steps in their life to have a plan.. Also, all of those commenting feel its immoral to force others to pay your way. Notice the word force, fag!
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I will steal medicine, and I will kidnap a doctor and keep him in my basement, if having these things are owed to me.
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>>131815959
No but he's not wrong. Healthcare as an industry [means to produce profit] is s perversion of mankind however nobody is ever entitled to the labor per material effort of others. I'm sure there is a happy middle ground but arguing for gibs is not the way to go.
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>>131824366
The state takes care of you if you take care of the state.

No medical care for non-taxpayers and their children.
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Poor people are just a bundle of cells anyway.
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>>131817759
A governments primary function is to protect its people

There was a time when that exclusively meant protect from marauders with clubs, but as society has advanced that role has come to include illness. Every developed state in the world has a healthcare system meant to protect its citizens from illness, because they can and they should as protectors of their people.

By failing to meet that standard, the US is failing to meet the standard of protection that every other non-shit government has met. If the US wants to be considered exceptional, let alone adequate, it has an obligation to take care of its people when they become ill. Otherwise the US is no better than fucking India
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>>131815959
*White people
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>>131828094
This. If you're a part of a society and you cannot contribute, then you are nothing more than a drain on society.

Also, I work at a hospital. I get free health care.
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>>131815959

Republican's disastrous healthcare plan is going to lose them the next election.
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>>131815959
Daily reminder that insurance companies are worse cancer than banks.
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>>131822452

I have a friend taking helicopter lessons rn.
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>>131816085
He must of forgot that part due to his oldage
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>>131816118
kek
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>>131816206
Yet roads are a thing
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>>131815959
ask him to pay for your next hospital bill with the millions of unspent dollars from his presidential campaign fund
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>>131815959
why isn't he donating his wealth to the needy?
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>>131826801
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAP
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>>131815959
Most of /pol/ can't afford healthcare, so he is obviously wrong.
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>>131828964
almost all roads were private until the middle 20th century in america
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Does that actually happen though? If you urgently need medical help in America do they just turn you away from the hospital?
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>>131815959
B-but death is everyone's just desserts.
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>>131829298
No. In fact, plenty of people misuse the ER like a regular doctor, including cheap fucks who want to get free over-the-counter medications. Which is insanely expensive for everyone else paying their bills. Some call 9/11 regularly for petty shit and the responders have to go every time even though they know it's bullshit. Costs us out the ass.
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>>131827704
>All these people that say otherwise take steps in their life to have a plan
How naive. I bet over 50% of /pol/tards are fat fucks

> Also, all of those commenting feel its immoral to force others to pay your way.
My feelz!!
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>>131829732
*911
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>>131816085
This is why nobody takes you alt right seriously
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>>131815959

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't hospitals have to treat you if you're literally dying regardless of whether you're insured or not? I guess what needs to be asked is, are you willing to go into debt in order to save your own life?
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>>131815959
Do Gazelles deserve to get eaten by Lions? Do Lions deserve to starve to death to save the Gazelles? The weak fall before the strong. That's life.
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>>131829138
Socialist retards love to point to the New York metro system as a triumph of government creation as well. But it was built privately and Chavez'd by the government in the early 20th century.
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>>131815959
There is a right to life, so no.
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>>131815959
They don't deserve to die, but they will anyway. All of us will, sooner or later.

Until medical science reaches the point where immortality is possible, healthcare is just a luxury with no real claim to being a "right" for anyone.
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People who need medical treatment for things beyond their control deserve to get it.

Now if you're a fat piece of shit giving yourself cancer and heart disease nobody needs to be paying for that but yourself you obese chunk hoarder.
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>>131829869
r/TheDonald pls go
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>>131815959
Elect Bewnie and no one will ever die and everthing will be FREE!
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>>131829298
no, but they will make you pay afterwards the money you owe. there is no such thing as somebody not receiving emergency care, its against the law and medical ethics rules for hospitals in all 50 states to demand payment before service (for urgent care)
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>>131815959
depends. if theyre knowingly fucking themselves up because they know theres a safety net, fuck them
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>>131830032
The lion does not deserve to kill the gazelle either. If the gazelle is stronger than the lion then it can give its own kind health care so it and its brothers can survive.
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>>131829298
here in california, the emergency rooms of hospitals always have a line and wait because all the illegal mexicans come in and use it for colds, scrapes, and non-emergency care. because they know they get the service first without question, then the bill. which they dont pay, since they are illegal and have no social security number to ruin their credit history

hence the ridiculous medical hospital costs for us legal citizens in california, since the hospitals have to make up the difference
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>>131815959
Why is the solution to the problem always more money? What about reassessment of the medical industry and its ability to optimize cost.
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>>131829869
that flag with this statement lol
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>>131830568
>What about reassessment of the medical industry and its ability to optimize cost.
Literally what Bernie promised to do
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>>131815959
yes, but they dont deserve to breed either

we'd all be a lot better off if we traded one for the other
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>>131830092
I know you're trying to be rational and compassionate, but this is the "moderate" stance that has gotten us to where we are, with a bloated and always growing welfare state and parasites screaming that they're not getting a big enough monthly free money check.
There is no reason why anyone should have a positive right to healthcare services. We're not entitled to other peoples time or expertise. (If you think otherwise, you're in favor of literal slavery.) We're not entitled to the resources and labor it takes to create medical supplies and equipment. So how are we entitled to the sum of those things?
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>>131815959
People who work don't deserve to die either but it do.
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>>131830834
> barely concealed communist
> wanted to bring costs down through the marketplace
Somehow I doubt it.
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>>131815959
You want the government. THE FUCKING GOVERNMENT THAT :
>is full of corrupt greedy scum
>spies on all us
>has lead us into trillions in debt
>satanalic buttfuckers that hurt kids
>blows ups innocence people and calls it liberation
>taxes you to death
You want those most incompete fucks in the world,that YOU FUCKING LEFTISTS PROTEST AGAINST every month, to control your healthcare?
Jeuss CHRIST!!
You leftists are a goddamn cancer on humanity.
Are you fucking retarded?!
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>>131815959
yes
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>>131830834
Hey, get your rational thinking out of here. /pol/ said he was a commie, so he's a bad guy. The difference between Bernie and Trump is that Bernie was publicly sucking Jew cock, while Trump was sucking Jew cock behind closed doors. All Anil greater Israel.
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>>131816639
According to leftists it's corporations who pay for it in the end. Like they'll just take a loss and not raise prices at all.
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>>131815959

The thing with health care is that it is an imperfect market. Since the health providers form an abusive union that keeps the costs up.

Why can't anybody offer health care, there are tons of simple procedures that could even be done by a vet or an unlicensed doctor. The law would rather let you die, instead of allowing cheaper alternatives.
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Well yes, no shit. However you do not have the right to force someone else to fix your shit for free either.
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>>131815959
More like, those who can't afford it should live within their means, not buying shit they don't need so that they can not be attached to material things and actually pay for the things they need
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>>131830421
Wat.
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>>131831027
Do you believe life is sacred? If not - Do you believe in society? If not - Do you believe in law? If not - leave the country and don't look back.
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>>131815959
People who deserve to die should not receive free healthcare

Check and mate. Get fucking stomped on cuckfags
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>>131831204
Bernie was anti-israel iirc

>>131831335
The same way every other first world country pays. Taxes.
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>>131831466
This, becoming a doctor should be an apprenticeship and not something you go to school for.

it would give us more experienced doctors and they wouldn't have to be paid so much.
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>>131816639

Certainly not NEETs like you. Get a job you worthless parasite. Trumpcuck NEET labor camps when?
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>>131831747
>thinks that you can learn to be a good doctor "on the job"
>has a fascist flag

Everything checks out
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>>131816056
fpbp
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I don't have health insurance. I have Master's degree in MIS, I make about 80k per year, but I currently work for professional temp agency. I've worked as a temp for the last 8 months and I waiting to get hired on. I am not lazy, and I don't mind paying for employer sponsored healthcare but at this point it's not an option for me. What do you right wingers have to say about someone in my position?
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>>131831920
>>thinks that you can learn to be a good doctor "on the job"

So why do they do such long residency after 8 years of school? Apprenticeship would just be a longer residency with lower pay. A general practitioner doesn't need to school.

Doesn't matter, it's not like you're becoming a doctor anytime soon.
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>>131815959
Universal healthcare is why we have hundreds of chink and poo doctors infesting our hospitals. I would much rather be treated by a vet than a Poo "doctor".
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>>131815959

Jews that con millions of dollars from colleges do not deserve to be outside of a prison.
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>>131831920
>What is residency.
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>>131826801
WTF
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>>131831739
So was Trump.
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>>131832153
You don't have the right to someone elses time. Stay healthy and you shouldn't need a doctor anyway. I've been to a doctor maybe once in the past 5 years for an actual illness and that was infected tonsils. You yanks seem to be obsessed with healthcare, like you can't possibly survive without monthly (((scans))) and millions of tablets.
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>>131832777
All Trump said was "repealling Obamacare". He never addressed the root issue and the only thing he actually wanted to change was something state borders something

>>131832564
Residency is after some painfull 5-7 years of intensive schooling. What the retard was proposing is that doctors should be hired when they are 18 and getting taught on the job.

>>131832931
>You don't have the right to someone elses time.
Then don't call the police, don't call the firemen, don't call a ambulance, don't go into public services, don't use roads...

>Stay healthy and you shouldn't need a doctor anyway.
Oh boy, your tune will change fast when you actually need a doctor.
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>>131815959
They don't deserve to live, either.
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>>131833626
>What the retard was proposing is that doctors should be hired when they are 18 and getting taught on the job.

It's better to allow a person to die because he can't pay for health care. The other option would at least give the person a chance he can afford.
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>>131815959

THIS IS SO FUCKING STUPID

PAY FOR YOUR OWN SHIT, YOU COMMUNIST NIGGER

SO FUCKING TIRED OF THIS OLD FUCK AND HIS FREELOADING FUCKING FANS

THE SHOW COSTS $10

DON'T GOT $10?

THEN YOU DON'T GET TO SEE THE FUCKING SHOW

LICK MY BALLS AND SUCK ON MY DICK, YOU OLD FUCK
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>>131815959
>People who can't provide for themselves don't deserve to die
Nature disagrees with you
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>>131815959
Though shit. They're gonna die no matter what.
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>>131818569
What a shitty system, guess we better subsidize said shit system
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>>131816085
spbp
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>>131815959
Nobody deserves nothing, nowhere. Fuck poor people. Fuck rich people. And fuck you.
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>>131815959
I don't have healthcare because of obamacare I had it all last year and lost my doctor. Found a new doctor through my plan only to find out he was dropping my insurance. So I again had to find another doctor and it kept fucking happening every 3 or 4 months for the entire year.

last year around November I got a new plan obamacare plan, hopefully one that wouldn't be dropped. Signed up only to find out the agent gave me the wrong fucking plan number with a 7.5k deductible with a $250 premium that didn't cover ANYTHING besides prescriptions at $50 a pop, even though none of my monthly prescriptions cost that much uninsured. Mind you, I'm not sick at all and have no pre-existing conditions.

So I dropped it entirely when I found out about the deductable a few months later (and the fact that I had to pay full price for a doctor visit). Tried to get insurance again but open enrollment was long over. They offered a special exception for me due to the error but the choices were so limited it was like paying for nothing.

So basically I got screwed all of last year and this year so now I have no insurance and I feel a lump on one of my balls. Thanks Obama. If I find out I have cancer I'm putting on my tombstone that Obama killed me. Fuck that nigger and his useless insurance.
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>>131816118
Everyone deserves to die. Its a crucial part of life. Everyone should die.
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>>131835736
This. Get off your ass and get a job. Simple
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>>131831642
>i want more free shit gimmie gimmie gimmie
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They don't deserve it but it will happen regardless who is in office. You can't say "this person in office is killing the hundreds of thousands dieing with no health insurance", because it's not that simple. Fucking retarded liberals
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>>131832153
This right winger says, "you have no right to the sweat of my brow". I build cabinets. I cut off a finger a decade ago, at the time I had no insurance. Didn't have enough money saved to pay for re-attachment/physical therapy. So I bandaged my hand, buried my finger and went right back to work.
Grow some fucking balls. Nobody owes you anything faggot.
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>>131826801

how do you even find her pussy, like what the fuck. literally going into a cave shaft and hitting dead ends.
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>>131815959
No one deserves anything
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bernie sanders needs to die. his popularity brought back marxism with a vengeance.
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>>131815959
Pay debts
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>>131815959
you don't socialize an entire industry, essentially destroying it forever, because some people 'can't afford x'
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>>131815959
They also don't deserve my fucking money without my say so.
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Why doesn't your government just set caps on the amount private hospitals can charge insurers?
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>>131816639
We spend more on health care than basically anybody yet its still shitty. All other devolped countrys allready have them.
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>>131815959
Maybe actually tackling the things that make healthcare so damn expensive? Nah just tax rich people that'll do it mang
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>>131815959
Someone ask Bernie if unborn babies should be covered?
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>>131832153
>I make about 80k per year
Prior to Obamacare, a "catastrophic" insurance plan would have cost you less than 100 bux a month, assuming you're moderately healthy and don't have a horrifically risky lifestyle. For someone making 80k a year, you could have easily afforded one to hold you over until your employer sponsored plan kicked in. And if you're healthy, that's all the coverage you need really, just something to cover you in case of accident or sudden serious illness.

Obamacare has raised the cost of catastrophic plans into the $150-250 a month range, but even that should be nothing for someone supposedly making 80k a year, assuming you really are worried about getting hit by a bus tomorrow or getting a surprise cancer diagnosis.
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>>131837609
Because that makes perfect logical sense AND PEOPLE WOULD DIE. Democrats don't want solutions they want to be morally righteous. We should also open up the selling of health insurance across state lines to allow more competition in the market.
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>>131815959

why do so many people think the point of medicine is to keep you alive in spite of yourself. you keep yourself alive with a clean lifestyle and medicine might help you along in much later life or in the event of a catastrophe.
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>>131815959
>can't provide food
>can't provide healthcare

I can understand healthcare because honestly healthcare isn't essential until you have a real emergency, otherwise you can still have kids and support a family until you die of infection at 40.

But the fact that these niggers literally insist on free food. Grown men, incapable of producing food in a country lush with produce and livestock. You have no excuse.
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>>131837376
>marxism
NO REFUNDS
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>>131815959
>people who don't just stick to the bare minimum deserve to die

Factual statement
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>>131815959
Nature and "deserve" are incompatible.
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maybe we should instead crack down on the inflated price of insurance instead of trying to give everyone insurance
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>>131837144
you dont you fucking idiot. you fucking dont
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>>131815959
>Deserve to die
Everyone dies.
Healhcare would be more affordable if congress artificially limited the profit margins medical providers are allowed to take (2000% profit on a pill?) and allowed individuals to self-insure again
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>>131815959
Survival of the fittest.
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>>131837996

try living in jew york where someone making 30k has to pay minimum 450/month for any reasonable healthcare coverage
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>>131837609
Governed healthcare is at odds at being "capd" on a market. Captilism insist that you have money. Socialized capitlism (whatever that is) inherents the idea that a base minimum should be established and if people choose to go further they have the ability to make more money. Basically how the US kinda use to be. Considering the incline in the economy it requires a more active citizen within it's state. If you subsidize productivity with gestulation you get common day society. Everyone asking for gibs but not willing to work for it.

Society is a collective work towards the inclination of the society. So therefore if you insist on being fringe then you are the cancer killing society. We need to show everyone who is the cancer destroying society while propogating and profiting off the demise of the US

(((Them)))
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no, but they don't deserve to live either.
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>>131816534
>muh military industrial complex
cringe
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>>131816534

بلو ذا فاك اوت
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>>131815959
HEY BERNIE, YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

HOW ABOUT INSTEAD, PEOPLE WHO DO NOT BUY HEALTHCARE DO NOT DESERVE TO GET FINED FOR NOT BUYING A FUCKING COMMERCIAL PRODUCT

HUH? HOW ABOUT THAT ONE BERNARD?????????????????????
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>>131816885

It kinda is.

Even in ancient times medics would treat warriors from both sides of the battle.
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>>131815959
death doesn't care if we deserve it or not
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>>131815959
actually we all deserve death for our sins
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>>131826801
What country is this?
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>>131815959
Nope.
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>>131837533

It's not your money it's the government's money.

At any moment the government can sieze all your assets.
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>>131815959
deserve gas nothing to do with it
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>>131815959
Do cucks that give money deserve refunds?
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>>131815959
That's true, the people who really do deserve to die are all wealthy enough to afford health care
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>>131815959
No one deserves to die and it's government's fault every time someone does.

Bernie is in the government and he's not stopping death, why?
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>>131815959
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>>131816206
Kek and true
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>>131839989
>as if they will ever find my giant stash of gold
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>>131839776
Normally the armies would just agree not to fight when it was dark out or loot casualties and to allow each other to collect their own dead and wounded
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>>131840191
>no one deserves to die
objection
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>>131815959
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>>131816085
Sounds good to me
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>>131815959
I'm a Bernie supporter, but after having worked a couple of months at a public social services office, I see that a lot of these poor people are deadweight.
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>>131815959

Nobody "deserves" to die unless they've done some violent crime like murder or an attempted murder/rape whatever and a bystander shoots them to protect someone they believed were in imminent danger of serious bodily harm or death.
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KILL ALL POOR PEOPLE
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN?
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>>131815959
(((Health care)))
As if that fraudulent kike would have made a deal that wasn't going to deepthroat big pharma all the way to the hilt and fuck up the U.S system even more.
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>For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ, our Lord
All these people think they don't deserve not just death, but eternal separation from our lord and savior
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>>131815959
Objectively he is wrong. Everybody deserves to die because that is the natural order of life. Bernie is a career politician pushing sellout agendas.
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>>131815959
Depends. People who can't afford healthcare will have to depend on people who deem them worthy of saving to donate to their cause of managing to pay for it so that their lives may be saved. That will most often be family, but if someone can successfully campaign and amass donations to help his cause, usually by providing a convincing case about how he either is unfairly in the situation that he's in or how he plans to contribute to society if he is indeed saved, then that is also accepted. Basically private charity is the only way to guarantee everyone involved consents to what is being done.
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>>131844701
That's totally the Bernie MO isn't it? Not like that stalwart of honesty, and bulwark of conservative values that Trump is.
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that's literally what happens all the time under socialized medicine though

>>>>131833918
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No, they don't. Which is why we should require that prospective parents be able to afford health insurance before they are allowed to have children. There is absolutely no reason why people working a minimum wage job should be allowed to have children they can't afford. We need to start punishing that as child abuse.
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>>131816885
doctors are just greedy fucks anyway
nobody becomes a doctor to watch people die, tell them they have cancer, or give assisted suicides
they do it for the outrageous salary and they should be humbled.
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>>131815959
depends on the person.

if a well meaning father and mother are in financial straits, then yes, having a healthcare cost that is too high is NOT grounds for their death.

however, the child murdering cannibal, even in his financially poor state, does NOT deserve healthcare and DOES deserve to die.
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>>131815959
yea, too bad nu-pol is too busy enjoying daddy trump's cummies on their tummies
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>>131846522
KEK speaks through you. Youre right.
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>>131815959
No one deserves to die
Some people just have to when their numbers up
Nothing personal kid
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>>131815959
haha u nigger u wish u could be part of the glorious aryan race
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>>131845759
> KRONALD BRIMPF HAS NO INTEGRITY UNLIKE BERNIE THO

Retard bernout detected.
Pic related is Bernie's MO. Plus this very socialist ownership of 3 houses + sports cars. It's socialism for YOU goy, not for him!
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>>131815959
He may be right, but they also don't deserve to get that healthcare by stealing it from people.
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>>131815959
What people do or do not "deserve" does not turn commodities into rights.
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>>131815959
Make a new thread on this. I ain't fuckin saying shit at the ass end of 250 posts.
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>>131815959
Why can't this crusty old retarded betacuck loser faggot die already? Jesus fucking Christ, what a bitchmade nigger.
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so plea with the doctor whose charging a dying a patient, not other patients trying to pay their own way.
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>>131816085
/thread

Move along.
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>>131815959
No one has a right to life. People only have a right not to have it taken away by someone else.
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Bernie knows everyone is going to die right? He's not that fucking stupid is he?
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>>131815959
WRONG.

Death is part of life. All things must die. Why spare the weak, so that they can continue spreading weak genes that we have to spend more resources to care for them?
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>>131831642
Not all life is sacred. The concept of "society" doesn't excuse anything. Neither does believing in the rule of law.
Seriously, kys.
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>>131815959

Deserves got nothing to do with it
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>people who can't afford food don't deserve to starve
Facially true, but nobody else deserves to be forced to pay for it. Hopefully nice people willingly choose to help, but fuck if I'm letting you loot a grocery store.
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>>131829869
>you alt right
>implying the alt right doesn't have yellow fever
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>>131815959
Death is your right by virtue of living. This man fundamentally misunderstands nature...

Ayy isn't he under investigation or something?
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>>131854045
go away Clint
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>>131815959
>Why didn't you just kill the market
Your punishment must be more severe.
>Gulags?
Yes, but not for the body. For the soul. I will build you and America up with hope and then destroy you. Hope is really the key to gulags. America will build to a point of joy and then be wiped from the map.
>You are a madman.
When everyone will be able to afford health care, then you have my permission to die.
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