This is what liberals actually believe

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This is what atheists believe

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>>131816090
Rate my OC

>>131816090
yeah why arent we still evolving?

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>>131816200
Nice

>>131815906
Being politically right wing has nothing to do with being a dumbass who doesn't understand evolution, it means understanding personal responsibility and free will is a thing.

>>131816277
Because we are perfectly adapted to our environment
Even though we aren't very good swimmers, climbers, runners, can't fly, if we eat the wrong berry we get explosive diarrhoea and die, we can't eat meat without cooking it but can't survive off vegetables alone, and need so much of it we can barely survive in the wild without farming.

>>131816362
Atheist here. Evolution is a lie.

>>131816362
fuck off shill. evolution has never been proven on the macro scale.

>>131816090
WE

>>131816362
Yes because only a brain dead sheep can accept evolution as fact

>>131815906
Ahhhhh it's better than "intelligent" design. Why again do we have an organ that doesn't serve a purpose but can randomly explode and kill you?

>>131816362
Evolutionists believe lizards turned into birds, specifically T. rex morphed into a chicken over millions of years

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>>131816750
WUZ

>>131815906
Right, creationism makes so much more sense and BTW they are not from the same genetics tree

>if we's evolved frum munkeys, den why dere still munkeys?????

Nigger logic

>>131816768
Ever organ serves a purpose, I don't need my middle finger but it serves a purpose.

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I hereby /thread this.

>>131816362
>not figuring out yet that Darwinian evolution is a lie and the truth is somewhere between the two theories AT BEST.

>>131816849
I'm white, I don't have any apes in my family tree, I've got apples

>>131816362
nothing has its all theory

>>131816277
We are still evolving you retard. Evolution takes thousands of years.

>>131816946
The truth is God made everything, why do you think we all share the same DNA? Because we all have the same creator

Read some biology books leaf

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>>131817059
Why didn't this animal evolve after 65,000,000 years?

Slide thread. On the level of space being fake and that we should ignore the jews because the real problem is that they won't tell us about the flat earth.

>>131816362
I'd rather believe a bearded man built a magic boat and shipped off two of every animal to a different land or something than succumb to this garbage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtJFb_P2j48

>>131817015
>muh gramma ain't no munkey, take that evilutionists!

>>131817231
it didn't need to

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evolution is real. pic related dipshit

>>131816849
You athefags have yet to answer that question, by the way.

>>131817231
It's environment didn't change enough in order to force adaptations.

>>131817353
Why not?
>>131817159
I read the bible

>>131817487
We didn't evolve from monkeys, we share a common ancestor with them.

>>131817487
There's a reason niggers look like apes, it's because they evolved from apes.

>>131817159
>(((books)))

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>>131815906
im growing an extra dick cause im so horny!!! gotta love evolution!!!

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>>131815906


Yeah, evolution is bullshit.

All of the redpills have led me to this conclusion:

Evolution. Is. A. Lie.

It's a new level of redpilled; in order to unlock this Level, you need the following pre-requisite Redpills:

> God is Real
>Jews are trying to hide him
>Demons are real
>The Earth is Flat
>Race is not a social construct, we are different sub-species
>Most scientists are NWO Jewish shills pushing lies, like Bill Nye or Degrasse.

After you have these pre-requisite redpills, you will unlock "Evolution is a lie" redpill tier.

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>>131817519
So you're telling me, 65,000,000 years ago. When the earth was double the temperature it is today, when the Earth looked like this, when this fish was living was somehow perfectly adapted to OUR environment today? But atheists also believe that a one degree increase in temperature is catastrophic to the environment?

>>131817487
>slopehead

If you don't understand evolution and natural selection you're genuinely a retard. I got taught that shit when I was 15

>>131817846
You need to open your eyes, the kikes don't teach evolution in school because they believe the Torah which says God created all life. The kikes only push evolution on the goyim
Wake up people

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Explain this Atheists

>>131817926
First question yes, and secondly, I'm not another autistic "we's burnin the world an sheeeeeit" kind of guy.

>>131815906
serious question: do you find it difficult managing some semblance of a life when you're constantly being this stupid?

>>131818298
You need to stop blindly accepted whatever the (((media))) tells you. Think for yourself for once

Explain this you science denying retards http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20150513-will-humans-keep-getting-taller

>>131816362
wow, i actually thought this was going to get support. turns out /pol really is retarded...

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>>131815906
this always get atheists massively butthurt, they can't explain without using emotions and logical fallacies.

>>131818031
God is responsible for evolution. Once you peel that bandaid off your fedora won't smell as bad.

>>131818433
Stop blindly accepting your (((bible))) and claiming that I'm the brainwashed one while you literally worship a jew on a stick.

>>131818492
And before you say it I understand it's (((BBC)))

>>131816810
>evolutionists believe in the heritability of traits and that the enviroment influences desirable traits
>humans morphed into different species (races) over the years and that some inherently have better traits like intelligence as a result
>>131817846
>schizophrenia

>>131818570
No God said that his creation was good, it's perfect evolution implies it's not good it needs to keep changing. That's false it's blasphemous

>>131818564
> Dinosaur bones and oil are just lil gifts that god left for us to find in the treasure hunt of life

>>131818673


> [Dialogue not available: You need to unlock one or more pre-requisite redpills to continue]

>>131818866
The bible mentions dinosaurs

>>131818730
So if humans didn't evolve did they just randomly appear as fully grown adults?

>>131815906
>atheists
>liberals
Whole Latin American and half of Africa is Christian. Red cross and Caritas are Christian organizations who import niggers to white land. You can't possibly be that retarded to not know the difference between different species, but then again you don't know the difference between an Indian and Canadian. Typical Christian scum, racebait, but then import 100% of all niggers since slavery times.

>>131819047
God made Adam and Eve

>>131819315
The injun is an animal

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>>131818970
They were evil so they didn't make it onto the Ark during the great flood?

>>131819776
Some dinosaurs did we know that for sure like the crocodile, but it doesn't really mention it, dinosaurs were alive during the biblical times though we know that for sure

>>131819555
Two people can't just randomly spawn out of nothing. You're a retard.

>>131818970


>The bible mentions dinosaurs

No, it mentions dragons.

Dragons, not dinosaurs.

>>131818866

>Dinosaur bones

Those bones are fake.

They never found any dinosaur bones before the 1800s, coincidentally when they were trying to prove evolution.

They never existed, it's a hoax by the Jews.

Did you know that the dinosaurs in museums are "replicas" and they hide the supposed "real bones" from the public?

The dinosaur bones in museums are made of resin, they are created in a computer and manufactured.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KXzgeq1BuA

>>131817487
We're descended from a common ancestor. Some other anon already told you that and you ignored him, so you're probably trolling you dumb nigger

>>131819776
>>131820076

>>131819887
God didn't spawn man and woman from nothing, man was made from dust woman from from his rib.

>>131819887
>Two people can't just randomly spawn out of nothing. You're a retard.
I agree, atheists are retarded. Everything can't just randomly spawn and form itself out of nothing.

>>131815906
Darwinism taken to its logical conclusion plays a very important role in all right wing political positions. The idea that god created all, especially if he created all "equally", is inherently anti-hierarchical, Marx-like levels of collectivist bullshit. .

>>131819650
water is in earth. but that doesn't means it's clean or drinkable.

>>131820076
>They never found any dinosaur bones before the 1800s

>>131820130
>Some other anon already told you that and you ignored him
?

>>131820076
Dinosaurs are dragons
There's A LOT less species than we think, because scientists just get some bones together and assume that this weird one belongs to a new species and imagines a whole new dinosaur, and a few decades later is found out it's just a mutation. Look it up, there's not as many dinosaurs as we first imagined

>>131816567
There is no such thing as a micro-macro dichotomy on something inherent to living things.

You are all retarded & indoctrinated by institutionalized religon

>>131820256
Religion/Evolution/Creation should play no part in politics. That it does is the most retarded shit.
>If you believe in God you clearly believe in all this other irrelevant shit too then hurrr
Just shut the fuck up.

>>131820256
Yeah all mankind is equal, any man has the potential to be as smart as his peers if he studies hard
Sure there's some retarded people but they aren't the norm

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>>131820312
He was literally the first person to give you a (You)

>>131820486
Yeah this is true, too many people believe in lies and man made doctrine spread by the church

>>131820486
>institutionalized religon
I thought that when I was 14-17, then I decided for myself that atheism is all a gigantic load.

>>131820486
>institutionalized religon
Wrong, only (((evangelicalism))) around the 1950s onward started the whole anti-evolution campaign.

>>131820486


You are indoctrinated by institutionalized fake "science" from the Jews.

You always accepted what they brainwashed you in school with, without ever taking the time to find out if what you were forced to recite is true or not.

When you start to find out the Earth is Flat, their lies begin to blow away.

>>131820459
>what is macro and micro biology

gj retard

>onithuric birds existed before and during the existence of dinosaurs
>retards still think modern onithuric birds evolved from dinosaurs

>>131820703
People were anti evolution since Darwin introduced this lie to the public

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>>131818564
>Molten rock and metal cool in a hollow chamber
>A cube forms from it
Wow must be designed that way.

>>131816362
There is not a single link between one kind and another. So basically you are just a fucking sheep believing everything you hear.

>>131820604
That's why different races have different average IQs...

>>131820795
Wrong, only people who fundamentally embraced the notion of equality thought evolution was flawed.

There might be a few southern communities or examples you can find where people rejected it but most intelligent (110+ IQ) people embraced it, from scientists to theologians.
The catholic church made no qualms with it and accepted it as truth in the 1950s, and that happened with a very conservative, not a liberal pope.

>>131820774
A division established because the means of study differ due to the scale, not because macro and micro life are two completed divided entities in which a faggot like you could argue that evolution doesn't occur in one of them.

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Alright, I'm gonna explain this in such a way that ANYONE can understand it.

When an organism has an offspring, that offspring has traits from the parents. This is how we can take wolves, and eventually get pugs. We do this through artificial selection of certain traits that we want. These traits come from random mutations in the DNA, such that it affects both the genotype and phenotype. Natural selection does the exact some thing humans do, an animal's enviroments "chooses" the traits of a species because only members with those traits survive.

This goes on for hundreds of millions of years with some minor fuckups, like the cambrian extinction, and eventually your dinosaurs become birds.

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>>131820604
>Yeah all mankind is equal, any man has the potential to be as smart as his peers if he studies hard
>this is what anti-evolution intelligent design retards actually believe.

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>>131818051


The Earth has corners, it's literally a flat plane that is immovable.

It's rectangular in nature; it's a realm.

Secondly, Dinosaurs are fake, a lie by the Jews in control.

They are made up and they make fake fossils out of resin and put up fake bones in museums to fool morons who believe these lies.

>>131821314


Dinosaurs aren't real, dummy.

They were made up.

>>131821174
There's only one race, the human race you're a dumb liberal though of course you don't understand this

>>131821496
You can see evidence in microevolution.

>>131819887
Yet you believe that everything in existence magically spawned out of nothing and then you call someone who believes the same shit retarded... i mean how fucking stupid are you?

>>131818866
oil is 83% carbon and 17% hydrogen, it does not take millions of years to produce the synthesis, nor does it have anything to do with fossils.

>>131821369
There's outliers but it's something special we are equal it doesn't mean we are all 100% the same that's not what equal means.

>>131816567
>on the macro scale
>macro is literally just micro happening for a long time
>by your own admission micro has been proven

Evolution is very much a thing, /pol/. It acts as the fundamental basis for racial supremacy and the natural selection argument for why niggers are inferior. The only ones who dispute it are Christcucks. Why? Because Christcucks are universalist, and honestly believe every single human is totally equal, which is why they're trying to mass convert the shithole that is Africa.

>>131821375
With that logic can you explain day and night?

>>131820753
Like the bible is better.

Actually no. If that were the case i wouldnt be ancap

The world is round its been proiven by ancient greeks

>>131821375
t. Schizophrenia

>>131821369
>>this is what anti-evolution intelligent design retards actually believe.

You're forgetting about epigentics my nazi friend

>>131815906

We know liberals are retarded okay.

>>131821314
nobody is arguing that. the argument is whether one completely different animal 'evolves' into a different completely different animal. ornithurae birds lived alongside dinosaurs so the idea that they 'evolved' from dinosaurs is a complete farce. and if those sorts of mutations happened within millions of years then there should be millions of dinosaur fossils with the sort of mutations that allow for the distinct flight mechanisms that birds have such as the bones of their legs bent inwards to protect their lung capacity. there isn't

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>>131821375
Where's the proof?

>>131821663
No I believe that things gave birth to other things, not that they magically spawned. It all started with cells in the ocean.

is it even worth trying to decipher the irony out of this thread wtf even is this

>>131821889
You do not dinosaurs didn't look like the ones in Jurassic park right?

And we do have evidence of a bird/dinosaur hybird, check out this hot link https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/29/science/dinosaurs-birds-evolution-american-museum-of-natural-history.html

>>131820565
>How a society answers one of the most fundamental questions mankind has ever faced has no implications on the philosophical groundwork and valuestructures said society bases its laws after.
Atleast think before you speak. Just because you think it's "retarded" does not make any difference. There already exists several different political philosophies which bases their policies around social-darwinism and natural law, most of which are right-wing (libertarianism, fascism).
>>131820604
So they're created with equal potential, yet unequal means to realize said potential, and unequal lengths to which the potential can be realized. So they're created unequal?

>>131821260
>A division established because the means of study differ due to the scale
but it only applies to everything besides evolution??? fuck off idiot and read a book or something

>>131821686
mac·ro·ev·o·lu·tion
makrō-evəˈlo͞oSHən,-ˌēvə-/Submit
nounBIOLOGY
major evolutionary change. The term applies mainly to the evolution of whole taxonomic groups over long periods of time.
proving microevolution occurs doesnt mean macro does because of large timescales stupid

>>131822243
Please archive it https://archive.is/mr77p

>>131821686
Micro evolution is a nice play on words, for what is in reality variation bound to a certain species.

If evolution was true, we should have far more plasticity with species under lab conditions than we actually have.

Like the finch beaks deal, which is always extrapolated into "this is muh speciation" is actually cyclical variation.

>>131815906
>Do you share traits with your parents?
Yes
>Are you exactly the same as your parents?
No
>If your parents have 10 kids, on avarage 3 will be less intelligent, 4 will be as intelligent, 3 will be more intelligent
>Same goes for every trait
>The best suited for survival will reproduce the most
>Traits that are good for survival in your environment will be enhanced over time
How do you stop this from happening pol? How do you stop evolution?

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>>131815906
Atheist flags are so pathetic.
>DURR WE CAME FROM SHIT FLINGING MONKEYS

>>131822245
All mankind is equal, yes I have eyes and ears and legs and hands so do you, we can accomplish the same things

>>131822243
archaeopteryx doesn't have the flight mechanism that modern birds have. and that sort of mutation to allow flight would've taken countless years to evolve for a dinosaur if evolution was real

*scientists. That's what Scientists actually believe.

Facts are apolitical, you've been manipulated into thinking that it's some kind of ideological position by politicians who use religion to create wedges to divide people and stop from noticing the wholesale looting of the commons.

You're stupid and ignorant because you're lazy, but politicians did try very hard to make you this way, and there is a massive cottage industry of people who hijack Christianity to create content.

You should break yourself free from their propaganda, and try to actually educate yourself in earnest.

>>131822304
Except for the fact that the variation is influenced by environmental pressures and can also come from mutations, and across millions of years vastly different environments and large amounts of mutations result in a gradual change from one species into a different one, if it doesn't go extinct.

>>131821571
This dude is on so many levels of irony I honestly can't tell what he's trying to go for

>>131822304
It isn't that it's physically impossible to change their species, it's just that they usually have long gestation periods, so it's usually not worth it.

You can see evidence of evoultion in lab mice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experimental_evolution#Laboratory_mice

>>131822611
There's humans and animals
It's not hard to understand

>>13181590
>not believing in evolution
>believing in a superior race with superior genes to pass down

Pick one


Fuck, some people on here are stupid. A different kind of stupid from libtards though

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>>131815906
Respect the cocks.

>>131822611
>and across millions of years vastly different environments and large amounts of mutations result in a gradual change from one species into a different one
if that were true then there'd be millions of fossils of such 'hybrid' creatures

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>>131818667

>>131818298
>First question yes
HAHAHHAHAHHAHA

>>131822463
>archaeopteryx doesn't have the flight mechanism that modern birds have. and that sort of mutation to allow flight would've taken countless years to evolve for a dinosaur if evolution was real

You know homologous evolution doesn't make exactly the same, it just means similar to such an extent to to strongly imply a common ancestor.

>>131820896
>Molten rock and metal cool in a hollow chamber
>Life is formed
wow must be accidental that way

>>131822763
We've found many already. And there probably are a huge amount more. You know we didn't just automatically discover all the fossils one day right? It's a continual search.

I love how the new fedora on this board has become catholicism. Top lols lads

>>131822676
Fuck off shill

>>131816090
WE WUZ TREE RAT

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I admire you for posting this bait everyday, because it actually does bring some of the evolution deniers/creationists out of the wood work so that we may educate/laugh at them.

>>131822862
Catholicism is paganism with a bit of Christianity sprinkled on it

>>131820896
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht2yEXLu8G4

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>>131822457
>we can accomplish the same things
Leaf or not, you cannot possible believe that

>>131815906
This is almost as bad as the flat earth shit posts

>>131822903
Oh yeah you're a dumb kiwi I forget you guys actually think maoris are bros

>>131822961
This

90% of Christian legends with actually cool shit behind them are ripped from Paganism

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>>131822457
No we cannot, both our physical and cognitive potential and limitations are very different, what you can do I may not be capable of, and vice-versa.
Why are you blatantly ignoring what I wrote in my previous post?

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>>131822763
FOSSILS ARE VERY FRAGILE. VERY VERY FRAGILE.

The fact that we don't have millions of fossils means nothing, we don't have millions of fossils of wolly mammoths

>>131815906
>>131816090
>>131816200
>>131816286
This new creationist meme on /pol/ is hilarious. Recently I can't browse /pol/ without finding a thread like this. What changed?

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>>131823055
>catholics
>Christian

>>131823000
I can run
I can walk
I can see
I can hear
I can lift things
I can think
I can speak
Now, we are not equal in certain categories
Person A might be better at math than me but I might be stronger than him, this doesn't mean we aren't equal we both have equal potential, if I chose to study math more than him I would be better at math than him, and if he chose to workout more he would be stronger than me.
Get it?

>>131821889
>How one animal evolves into a completely different animal
The thing ism they aren't so different that you couldn't discern a common ancestry between them. at least in most cases.Your argument is based on a swift and uninsightful first glance comparison.

While it's not always clear to the untrained eye and there are things such as convergent evolution that can make it confusing, it's really not that hard to see that something like a bird and a therapod dinosaur share a common ancestry by comparing their anatomy.

>We'd see more fossils
Fossils aren't an indicator of everything that ever existed. The proccess that creates a fossil is relatively rare in nature, not everything is going to die and manage to become fossilized. Like everything today most things died and were broken down by scavengers and decomposers.

>>131817547
>I read the bible
No wonder you're so full of shit

>>131817519
>evolution ≠ adaptation

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>>131823131

>>131817231
It's a deep sea fish.
Its enviroment truly didn't change.

>>131823055
That's 100% false

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>>131823131
What did he mean by this
>>131823168
I have no idea. I think just some concentrated trolling. Either way, I like it too. It's funny.

>>131823168
You cant be le alt right without being religious. r_thedonald I'm guessing

>>131823212
But you don't have equally potential, genetics do have major effects on what you can and can't do.

They're not the only thing, but don't diminish their importance.

>>131823305
Scientists don't even know what the bottom of the ocean is like now never mind 65,000,000 years ago when our continents didn't form yet. Liberalism is retarded, God created the earth the way it is today and all life at once

>>131817846
>A fucking flat earther.

>>131815906
Where do new species come from and where did the old ones go? Riddle me this, leaf.

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>>131822611
If mutations are the source of all the genetic variety we have today, how come the vast majority of mutations are deleterious to the organism? That makes no sense and contradicts what we see in reality.

In fact some of the examples used by evolutionists, like the fruit fly mutation that makes them have 4 developed wings, is actually a great example against mutations being the sole source of genetic variety, given how poorly those mutated flies can fly, compared to the ones with the usual configuration of 2 undeveloped wings, which seem to have some balance function to them.

Also if you use the darwinian principle of random variations applied to a code, like a Windows OS, you always end up with catastrophic failure. So why aren't living systems experiencing catastrophic failure under random mutations?

>>131821314
I agree with you. Except the word random. There is no such thing as truly random.

>>131822847
>We've found many already
where. also where's the links. ie. fossils of species between archaeopteryx and dinosaurs. and then where are the links between those links. there are none. there's only some archaeopteryx and then a huge gap between them and dinosaurs and them and birds. if such mutations that happened within millions of years were a viable explanation then the evidence would be millions of 'in-between' fossils of such species

>>131823368
Genetics don't effect you as much as you think, yeah it can effect things like how at risk you are for cancer, but someone who's dying of cancer can still be equally as smart as another person you know?
Why do you think all humans have IQ that's close to each other? Because we are pretty much equal

>>131817846
If the Jews are trying to eliminate people like you, they have my support.

>>131823144
>we don't have millions of fossils of wolly mammoths
there is

>>131823512
Mutations don't have to be a good thing, the ones with bad mutations die.

See, if 99/100 mutations are bad and do nothing, but the 1/100 increases fitness, the 1/100 will eventually dominate the population.

>>131822293
>But only applies to everything besides evolution.
>applies to everything
What are you even talking about? Micro organisms are tiny, you need different equipment and an understanding of environments invisible to the naked eye. That doesn't mean they evolve and big things don't

Remember that the big things are made up of small things, they follow the same rules dipshit.

>>131821375
Ill go with...no?

>>131823618
There is not

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>>131815906
>my church alpha told me to think science is wrong and I feel good when I tell smart people they are dumb.

every day with this noise... the flow of the ignorant never ends.

>>131823168
summer :^)

I thought Pol strives on looking at the facts and making fun of idiots? She's believe in nonsense with no evidence. Now that sound familiar oh yeah fucking religion. All of them are complete bullshit.

>>131823512
>vast majority of mutations are deleterious

This isn't accurate though. You only think this because you have a preconceived notion of mutation. Blue eyes during adulthood are a mutation for example. Of course, even if it was true, this is basically >>131823660 the reason why it doesn't matter

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>>131823512
Because nature requires an intelligent designer
God is that designer

>>131823751
>idiocracy meme
literally go back to 9gag

>>131817846
>evolution is a lie
>races are different sub species

???

>>131823579
Gentics has a an effect on behavioral traits anon.

Everything from obedience, empathy, loyalty have genetic elements.

>>131824015
There's only one race, the human race
Everything else we are told is man is not it's an animal
If I showed you the skeleton of a chimpanzee and a gorilla and said this is the same animal, you would say to me no I'm crazy. So why is man told that the Chinese and the nigger and the aborigine is his fellow man? The bible says the nigger is a beast of the field

>>131823579
>Pretty much equal. Starting to slip? Average IQ of 70 is a massive gap from 105 in cognitive ability.
Sounds like your arbitrary measurement of similarity is already falling apart. Me and a dog can look, jump, smell, hear, run; therefore, we are equal.

>>131823168
CIA testing new shit out on these retards.

>>131824292
Only ment to greentext the pretty much equal part.

>>131824172
No it doesn't, that all depends on how much you accept God's word
If you don't fear God you won't feel loyalty to your wife, a dumb atheist doesn't care if he fornicated and commits adultery but someone who loves God won't do that he will be loyal

>>131824384
You got a little too obvious here, but you did well before.

7/10

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>>131817926
you are an idiot if you think the species of fish is the exact same as it is now. its just increadibly similar. evolution happens because of environmental pressure and doesn't necessarily mean the branching species disappears either.

Bacteria are as old as dirt itself and do you honestly believe just because theyre very close to the way they where back then they haven't chnaged?

>>131824292
No human has an IQ that low unless he's a retard which is a rare mental disorder

>>131824497
Thanks, just read the bible and accept God's word into your life

>>131823230
similarities aren't proof. just because their legs looked similar doesn't mean one evolved from the other. in fact their anatomy is vastly different considering that birds don't really move their femurs when running/walking compared to other animals. there's no reason to assume that some dinosaur adopted or randomly mutated that feature which is necessary for flight because if they had then they'd be severely restricted and would've died before having the chance to even reproduce

>>131824518
Bacteria is younger than the dirt, God made the earth before he made all life.

>>131823512
first of all dumbshit, the environment changes. but more importantly, do you honesly believe a mutation that lets you survive human pesticides is not a beneficial mutation for insects? because it's happenning everywhere.

>>131816913
>Thus, the initial rise to intermediate frequency of the RHD deletion in European populations may simply be explained by genetic drift/founder effect, or by an older or more complex sweep that we are insufficiently powered to detect.
>However, our simulations recapitulate previous findings that selection on the RHD deletion is frequency dependent and weak or absent near 0.5. Therefore, once such a frequency was achieved, it could have been maintained by a relatively small amount of genetic drift.
>We unexpectedly observed evidence for positive selection on the C allele of RHCE in non-African populations (on chromosomes with intact copies of the RHD gene) in the form of an unusually high F( ST ) value and the high frequency of a single haplotype carrying the C allele.
WE WUZ BLACKED

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>>131822644
Bacteria reproduce superfast and we can't change its species. There seems to be some inherent species limitation to how much we can manipulate organisms, and that has to be addressed.

>>131823660
The whole argument about fitness is tautological. Which animals survive? The ones that are fit. Which animals are fit? The ones that survive. It's just like saying nothing at all.

How about the evolution of the whale, which according to modern theory of darwinism, came from an animal close in ancestry to a cow, an ungulate. How many morphological changes would be necessary for a transition from a proverbial cow into a whale? A whole fucking lot of them, their entire skin has to change so it's impermeable, the digestive system has to change completely, it needs a diving apparatus, it needs a specialized lactation system, and so much more.

How many fossils of transitions are expected to be found given the amount of changes required for this huge transition? The problem is that the theory of darwinism is that we don't see numbers being applied to substantiate it, how about an algorithm based on darwinian mechanisms that will generate life-like complexity? How about a genetic algorithm? You can program a computer with quantum mechanics equations and see the results of it, yet nothing similar can be done with the darwinian theory. Why is that?

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>>131816362
you're overestimating the political wing that believes climate change is a Chinese Hoax

>>131816277
we are you stupid retard

>>131824015
why is this such a hard concept to understand
>evolution claims animals get new traits over many generations
>basic fucking biology claims species' can branch out into sub-species under certain conditions

>>131824704
he also made the plants before the sun, checkmate christfags

>>131824963
He made light first retard

>>131824844
Anon can you define species

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>>131824574
So people with mental disorders are created unequal?

>>131822839
If pyrite can crystallize as a cube why believe life couldn't form without a creator? It all comes down to a fallacious form of reasoning. Y

You see a world with living things and non-living mater. You see that most of rocks and water are chaotic and without form, until man imagines up some geometric shape and carves into the foundation of stone to form structures.

So then you think "Jeez nature must be chaotic, and man ordered it into a system, like a house, a road, a windmill" and thus "All things that form a system I perceive must be created by divine intelligence, because I know what isn't a system when I walk the earth and see the chaos of the materials I used to bring my own order"

But the thing is, the "order" you might see in something isn't miracle of design simply because you believe you know what disorder is.

Those golden cubes formed their splendid geometric shape entirely of their own properties. Matter has properties that can create systems, intelligence and perception are not needed for them to function or exist.

>>131824963
On the first day God made light

>>131824844
>Bacteria reproduce superfast and we can't change its species. There seems to be some inherent species limitation to how much we can manipulate organisms, and that has to be addressed.

you're a dumbass and need to start learning about evo devo. theres no innate species barrier.

>>131824844
Bacteria divide asexually and for the most part do not show regionalisms, therefore the concept of species, which works best for animals, becomes entirely a matter of judgement.

>>131825103
Why are you comparing animals to humans? Retard liberals are taking obern

>>131824963
>god said let there be light before he said let there be vegetation
are you fucking inept?

>>131825243
Bacteira don't have species in the same way plant/animals have species becuase they reproduce asexually.

>>131825285
I can feel the heatwaves coming from your doritodrenched, sweaty, obese body, you baiting (you)whore.

>>131824648
>Similarities aren't proof
It's about the parts friend, compare their bones.

Even convergent species that aren't closely related but have developed similar traits reveal their distinction in how the anatomy, even when similar shows a different ancestry.

We know a Hyrax and an elephant are distantly related because there anatomy reveals a common ancestry, despite the immense different in outer appearance.

We know a Mantis Fly and a Mantis are distantly related because while they appear similar at first glance their parts show a far different ancestry.

A snake and a worm lizard might have both lost their legs, but the worm lizards have blinking eye lids, their bones are different.

>>131816816
underrated

>>131817657
>niggers
>evolving
Get real darwinfag

>>131825385
They also can exchange dna with other bacteria within a close enough likeness.

>>131828243
They can exchange dna with ANY other bacteria.

This is sometimes used as evidence for a universal common ancestor

>>131826272
why have we not found the common ancestor between chimps and humans

>>131828524
Because there is no single common ancestor, there's a series of them

>>131828524
Not everything is going to fossilize.

>>131818512
Fuck i know all the people in the comment section don't know shit about evolution.

>>131823449
you're a fucking idiot

>>131821375
>It's rectangular in nature
Except the bible literally describes the earth as a round disc.

Holy fucking shit. I have so many years in school I forget people are fucking retarded. The only reason to not believe in evolution is because Jesus. Just realize that already...

>>131815906
>sandnigger book written 2000 years ago and translated through a dozen plus languages is the real truth
>this is what conservatives actually believe

>>131821788
Implying epigentics can go so far though

>>131829678
I heard a pretty good argument up here for "creationist."

Pretty much, it was saying that form follows function, so that if 2 things have the same function, then they will have similar form... this is true across environments, time periods, etc. So to find something and equate it with being "proof" of evolution, is a form of circular logic, that needs evolution to be at the foundation. If it's not, then you just look at these things for exactly what they are, similar. (put poorly, in a nutshell). Really got my noggin joggin.

My beef is why is it Jesus or Evolution?

>>131829678
Well yes. If Jesus were to make a completely original religion that didn't form on the basis of Judaic culture there wouldn't be such a strong rejection of evolution.

The only reason it matters so much is for man to have been saved the Judaic idea of mans inherent sin needs to be established, which means Adam and Eve had to have happened.

Obviously the goal of Jesus and purpose of Christianity was to establish a new form of morality that denounced the flaws of judiac morality, but people got caught up in the Jewish mythos of mankind sitting in a testing realm, at war with the devil and seeking a happy life after death.

>/pol/ hasn't accepted evolution

You people would literally eat your own shit if it made you contrarian enough

>>131816277
I never had wisdom teeth. I don't mean I never had them try to push up, I mean I never had them in my head at all. Suck on that, throwback.

>>131829720
It can bruh

>be all intelligent God
>create sentient life form that consumes food through the same tube as it breathes
>watch as children choke to death
>muh design
>muh perfect plan
>muh mysterious ways

>>131830699
Because beyond being a teacher, the whole point of Jesus on earth had to have context to a jewish world. God was mean and man had to appease him through sacrifice.

God incarnated the messiah to free man of those customs and his death on the cross was seen as the sacrifice to end all sacrifices.

without the Jewish idea of the worlds creation Jesus has no real context to his actions.

For man to have eternal sin, you need to have a history of mankind to reflect it. You need Adam and Eve to bite the fruit, you need the Tower of Babylon to rise and fall to explain the separation of man, you need the flood.


The idea of sin in this concept had long since lost its meaning as some form of transgression against man, it became a breaking of spiritual law in which the context only directly pertained to God. So basically the entire spiritual Orchestra of Jesus only functions if the Jewish beliefs are established.

If you accept Jesus as the savior of man, then to believe life to have emerged via abiogenesis and taken different forms as time went only removes the context Jesus has.

If you were some new age christian who believed Jesus was a manifestation of the divine creator on earth to commune with his creations and teach them how to live peacefully or something I guess that would work; but Jesus otherwise operates in the Jewish myth, the entire idea of Christian universe has to exist for his purpose to exist. The idea of sin, heaven and hell and the war of good and evil surround the Jesus character.

>>131832122
So the exact argument I nutshelled? Except for evolution needing to be the basis, the narrative does?

Some hyper-autistic theologian anon explained it up here as, the basis of all religions having some form of reincarnation, or just eternal damnation after death if you weren't a king, "aristocrat". That Christianity made the most sense to him because simply, eternal sin was the reason for being reincarnated to live again, or spend eternity in hell. That Jesus' sacrifice appeased God, to the point where you could be judged on this life alone. (once again poorly nutshelled).

>>131825795
I'm not overweight I'm 175 pounds and 6'1

>>131833568
The exact argument in a nutshell is that Christianity is built upon the mythologies of Judaic belief and that without them the deep commitment to Jesus has no context, or at least one hardcore Christians would be satisfied with.

Evolution impedes on christian faith because it doesn't match up with their creation story, which incidentally is needed to give the important sin of mankind room to be imposing enough that Jesus dying on the cross actually meant something.

WE WUZ SINGLE CELLED ORGANISMS N SHIT

>>131834175
>Evolution impedes on christian faith because it doesn't match up with their creation story

I got that. It's just funny because it seems like everyone is so illogical, creationists from what you posted, and evolutionist because contemporary academics (which a majority are evolutionist) will not dare touch the race issue. Just, everyone is equal.

But specifically, my question was, why are the only option available to choose from religion or evolution? It just seems like science, being what it is, would have at least tried to establish another theory.

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>>131835215
> why are the only option available to choose from religion or evolution? It just seems like science, being what it is, would have at least tried to establish another theory

In one hand you have the explanation of things through the methodology of science and the other you have an explanation derived from traditional beliefs.

One involved experimentation and results, the other is based simply on belief, born from a cultural exchange dating back generations. What you are seeing is mankind gaining a comprehension of the universe they're in through experimentation and observation butting heads with those that hold traditional ideas, born from the human imagination as a way to explain things that they could not explain.

You aren't seeing alternative theories to evolution because there is no alternative concept being suggested by research. Back when evolution was a fresh concept there was a competing idea by a man named Jean-Baptiste Lamark who proposed that change in life was altered by the experiences a creature endured in life (I.E a Giraffe has a short neck and can't reach leaves, so it somehow alters the genes of its offspring to have a longer neck). Of course through experimentation Lamarkism was proven false. Changes to life depended on mutations and the fitness of an organism against an environment. natural selection shaped the animal it didn't pick the mutations of its young.


>The evolutionists are hypocrites for refusing to accept racial difference.
It's easy to put on a scientific lens over most things but humanity isn't one of those things. We are strained by emotions and social stigma and easily opt out of a scientific mindset when humanity is involved. You can see it science fiction with the complete fear of Eugenics even though it's a completely logical viewpoint to an extent, or that pressured belief in willpower manifest rather than being bound by your genes.

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>>131829490


>The bible describes it as a round disc.

The bible specifically mentions that the Earth has four corners:

Revelation 20:8

Revelation 7:1


The "Four Corners of the Earth" is impossible on a round Earth.

Now, the Earth where we live in IS in fact, round.

It's a circle.

However, there is more land beyond the Ice Wall, known as Antartica.

The Jews know this, they are hiding more land BEYOND Antartica.

It is rumored that they even found the Garden of Eden, and the Tree of Life, however, it is being guarded by very powerful entities, and a flaming sword that goes around it.

The Elites want to take from this Tree of Life, and in order to do so they need to get rid of the entities guarding the Tree.

That's why CERN is trying to find out how the "God Particle" works.

Sounds like Science Fiction, but it's very real.

>>131816545
>>131816567
>>131816758
>>131816810
>>131816946
>>131817318
>>131821043
Holy shit, I need to leave this board immediately if this is what it does to you.

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Really activates my almonds. Evolution is real. It's self evident over the last couple of years with organisms that reproduce quickly, like bacteria and rats. Bacteria is becoming resistant to antibiotics as well as rats are becoming immune to rat poison. Watch the rat guy documentary, pic related.

>>131839922
It doesn't do this to you, it's just a leaf's puppet show. I like to come in here and mock them though.

>>131840352


That has nothing to do with evolution, and everything to do with life.

Cells are alive, they can protect themselves and defend themselves if need be.

However, I've yet to see a a monkey "evolve" into a man.

Ridiculous.

>>131838213
Revelations 20:8
And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Four quarters

Revelations 7:1
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

It's obviously referring to north, south, east, and west. I agree with you though

>>131816090
Evolution is not something we believe, but rather understand and accept. Accepting reality seems like the most reasonable thing to do.

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>>131815906

Christcucks are triggered by this.

>>131840738
>Cells are alive, they can protect and defend themselves if need be.

Cells don't have a magical sentience that lets them decide to change their chemistry to incorporate new defenses.

you're describing science fiction monsters like The Thing, not living things on earth.

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>>131839922
It's probably sharia blue bullshit.

I have found that right wingers are totally reasonable and level-headed and care about facts and evidence, and hence understand (and acknowledge the reality of) evolution.

The left is trying to make the right the anti-intellectual party again.... because they have lost the high ground.

Proceed with scepticism.

>>131841405
To be fair, it's not like traces of the fundamentalist christian right that garnered momentum during the bush era disappeared.
But at the same time, why would they be on /pol/ when most are total Israel cocksuckers?

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>>131841188


>Cells don't have sentience.

Is that what the Jews in your Indoctrination center told you?

Just look with your eyes.

Cells are clearly alive, they can move, they can reproduce, they can detect foreign entities like viruses.

>>131815906

What, that birds think in English? Eat a dick.

>>131817547
>Why not?
No pressure to change.

>>131841188
They do not require sentience.

Example... tropism.

You could say the cell needs light so it moves towards the light to increase photosynthetic output.

Obviously the cell doesn't know what it's doing.

But there are chemicals that react to the light and accelerate growth in certain parts closer or further from the light that have the net effect of moving the cell towards the light.

This cell has a selective advantage because it can make more sugars and divide more say.

So it does. It divides twice as fast and all its progeny also have this adaption.

Somewhere down the line a random mutation occurs which means that the chemical stops reacting to light. This is bad and this cell dies off because it doesn't make energy.

Somwehere else a mutation occurs that accelerates the process slightly. This cell is even more effieciet at finding the bright spots and so it divides faster....

Passing on this even better adaption. The other cells can't compete and so the population evolves.

>>131841681
That's not sentience, a cell has can not will its defenses into existence. It is hard coded by its dna to do all those things.

If the cell encounters something new it can not cope with it dies. You're implying the cell can will in new defenses, that its mutations are intentional and spontaneous as a reaction to a new threat. An organism that can genetically modify itself or its offspring at will to fulfill some design? Science fiction.

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>>131841741

>christcucks don't get the context...

I am not surprised. kek

>>131842331
It can't cope with*

>>131842247
I know, explain that to him though. He's trying to suggest that evolution is false because cell mutations are actually the cells actively modifying themselves as a response to a new threat, like a rabbit fleeing from a wolf or choosing to hide in its borrow during a storm. He's describing what in all actuality would be a horrifying prospect of an organism because something like that wouldn't need to evolve or even reproduce, just modify itself through an intelligent design to survive.

I heard there is no such thing as racism against whites. Is this truth?

>>131815906
No its what people who have read something besides the Bible think,

>>131842331

>If the cell encounters something new, it dies.

Ugh, so does that mean that it's alive?

If it dies, it needs to be alive.

Think about it.

>A cell can not will it's defenses into existence. They are hard coded.

Hard coded by what?

Who hard coded the cells?

A creator.

You see, the truth is staring at you in front of your eyes, yet you fail to see it because you are heavily indoctrinated.

Just because cells are organism on a much smaller scale than you, doesn't mean they are dead.

You make it sound like they are dead, they aren't.

When a human being dies, by a gunshot let's say, the cells stop moving, they stop reproducing, they DIE.

How is that possible.

According to your theory, they should continue to function via their "code".

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>>131842247
>>131842331

>>131842663
Ah right. Well that's quite a misunderstanding haha, it's probably better to leave him to his fantasy world.

>>131843247
> Unsolved.
Not really. Phagocytosis is very well understood, right down to the molecular and biophysical level.

>>131840738
This is some fresh bait

>>131843002

>If it dies it needs to be alive think about it
So life is anthropomorphism to you? It seems that you believe I'm saying a cell is "dead" because it is a simple organism that carries out the instructions of its DNA, within its nucleons and not a sentient entity that can modify its behavior and body chemistry at will to avert threats.

Yes, some cells can move like >>131843247
That doesn't mean it has a mind going "rawr I'm going to eat you"

>Hard Coded by what
its DNA

>when a human being dies by a gunshot it's cell stop moving
Actually the cells in your body will live for quite a bit longer. But the system supporting your cells is now dysfunctional, they all die from lack of nourishment soon enough.

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>>131843601

\
>Bait

How so?

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>>131844025
Nigga I know better than to entertain bait.

>>131843002
>they should continue to function via their "code"

But... they can and sometimes do.

The HeLa cell line extends all over the world despite the original human, Henrietta Lacks, dying in the 50s.

>>131844025
You are worse than the stupidest nigger, Christfag

>>131844025
I'll take niggers for 500

>>131841228
Flat and hollow earth are my 2 personal favorite theories tb.h, it'd be pretty awesome if it was proven totally true someday

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>>131844948
it wont ever be proven the way you want it to be proven out in the open cuz its satans deception

i have no doubt in my being that its flat
you just have to be a man of truth on the outside

>>131817378
no there not stupid faggot
its called mutattion your a retard

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>>131845128


All the atheists have to do is go OUTSIDE and look for themselves.

The sun is closer than they tell us.

Look at the angle of the sun's rays.

If the sun was millions of miles away, the rays would be parallel, not angular.

Using math, and trigonometry, we can see how far the Sun is, and how big it truly is.

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>>131845568


>Continued

Just let them do the experiments for themselves.

>>131845128
I want to believe

>>131845568
You realize clouds are reflective right?

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>>131845568
>>131845669
>the state of american education

>>131817059
I've been alive for 32 years and I haven't evolved at all. What gives?

>>131817231
Were't they believed to be extinct until the 1900s?

>>131847859
You are an inferior organism and you will not live to reproduce.

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>>131845956
Hey man, we is smart, yo.

>>131816277
We are blacks have develop sickle cells to avoid dying of malaria, traits that help humans survive at high altitudes have evolved independently in multiple locations, in Ethiopians, Tibetans and Bolivians for instance.

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If we evolved from monkeys then why are there still monkeys? Perhaps the world is really only a few thousand years old? Athiests btfo.

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-38800987

>Researchers have discovered the earliest known ancestor of humans - along with a vast range of other species.
> about a millimetre in size, and is thought to have lived between grains of sand on the sea bed.

>atheists unironically believe this

This is some of the most insane shit I've ever heard. The fact that people gobble it down without questioning is mind-boggling.

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I feel we are in an unspoken alliances, poland

>>131815906
Honestly if you don't believe in evolution I automatically assume you're retarded or in deep denial. In fact, I have never meant anyone intelligent who doesn't believe in evolution. It's not quantum theory, it's definitely not difficult to understand so the only conclusion is deep denial.

>>131817103
Then why are we not perfect?

what a dumbass creator

>>131818512
>he doesn't know about summerposting
newfag

>>131817103
Because we're all related, right? Your brother is my brother.

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damn faggot OP, I've seen this exact same thread with this exact same pic lkike 4 times in the last few days. Don't you get tired of debating this shit?>

>>131851039
Its basically - hey they look like us therefor we are related/came from them. Highly retarded.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuCn8ux2gbs&t

You snowflakes going to hit that dislike button because facts hurt your feelings?

FUCK DRUMPF FUCK WHITE PEOPLE AND FUCK THEIR COLONIALIST WHITEY SCIENCE!!!
KILL ALL WHITEYS!!!
DECOLONIZE SCIENCE!!!
#NOTMYPRESIDENT
#IMWITHHER
WE WERE KINGS!!!
THIS IS AFRICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!