Anglosphere Revolution

>>131811100
Assuming you're the same dude from the last few threads?

I STAND WITH YOU! GLORY TO THE ANGLO

>>131811811
You would be correct.

Everyone, do whatever you can to raise awareness. The more people who care the stronger we'll become!

Not a day goes by I don't think about the Anglosphere, sorry for letting you all down.

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>>131811100
>>131811811

Hey faggot, self bumping on mobile is lame. Also, there's no fucking way in hell our bluepilled governments are going to make green cards easier to obtain for Europeans. Wtf are you on right now.

>>131811100
I'm good with it. We need to unite across our borders and work to make our countires 100% white with an emphasis on Anglo

However the US is a different story as we have a fuck load of Germanic people here

>>131811100
Why hello again.

Just bear in mind that the US is Anglo mainly by heritage and history, and that it would probably be for the mutual good to not keep it on par with former Dominions exactly.

I literally want in.

>>131815088
I literally want your poo in the loo

>tfw at work somebody had to put up signs explaining how to poo in the loo
christ

>>131814691
Are you an Anglo?

>>131814941
I wish we could treat the US on a state by state basis, as some are more Anglo than others.

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>>131811100
>leaf in the middle
take our stars out of there
we fought to be rid of you
enjoy your asian invasion and german royal family.
fuck off, m8, wuw lad, time for tea, cheerio.

>>131811100
Stop with these cringes flags, and we don't want your browns so fuck off were full.

>>131811100
CANZUK movement is the future for the Anglosphere. Support your local CANZUK politicians.
US is out because they're traitors.

>>131815510
No beans. We're a union, and part of the deal is that the federal government gets to handle foreign affairs.

Besides, it's kind of the same problem as totally open borders in the first place. Let's say you just opened up relations with, I don't know, Maine or something. If it were a great deal, you'd just have people sliming in to Maine to take advantage of it.

State borders are literally nothing but a "Welcome to XXX State!" when you drive across them, except for legal technicalities of where you reside, or where you buy your booze and fireworks, or whatever else.

>>131814761
100% German here. My grandparents spoke German. My Parents did not. I don't. It was beat out of us from the wars. We're about as German as the Queen. So it's not a sticking point I don't think.

I am all about this. An Empire greater than any known to man. In 20 years we'll be conquering the stars while the Turks and the Chinese battle each other over the Congo.

>>131815773
The people who founded America, fought for its independence, claimed its independence then decided how it would be governed would born British and died still Anglos. If they had complete contempt for Britain, they wouldn't have applied Anglo Saxon law and way of life to their new country.

>>131815245
Yfw already have a white 7/10 white qt ready to marry me.

>>131815773
You fought to be treated as equal Englishmen and we failed you. Do some research before committing to betraying your brothers.

>>131816060
Did all four of your grandparents speak German?

>>131816675
Yes, they fled through poland after the trouble in the 1920's in Germany, as part of a "Lutheran Mission" which was just cover.

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>>131816464
>betraying your brothers
the majority of whites in America from British isles are of irish and scottish decent.
fuck off englishman

>>131816844
Almost the same thing.

>>131811100
Stop riding our coattails, you already have an Anglo union, the Commonwealth. Leave us out of this garbage.

>>131815956
Our past, present and future is Anglosphere. :)

>>131816844
Britains*, also what indoctrinated you? The education system? Hollywood? The Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965 (Designed to betray the Anglo)?

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>>131815773
>Telling the Anglo cucks to fuck off.
Good job lads ye're learning.

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>>131816960
you named it Anglosphere for a reason, not Anglo-Celto-Pictosphere
forcibly conquering someone does not make them your brother.

>>131817143
Sorry your majesty i can't hear you on your high horse!

>>131817295
^ Do not let him divide us, his words are poison.

>>131817295
The main idea is to not get caught up in another League of Nations or UN cuck job. Beyond that, it's a natural and pre-existant alliance for mutual benefit in a world of chaos and decay.

>>131817480
Living on the same shithole island for 10,000 years then going on to conquer the world together makes us brothers.

Even the autistic Irish are just our stupid little brothers. Northern Brits are closer to Irish/Scots than Londoners by and large, particularly the north east, but we still call it England. The whole island is a mix of Scots/Welsh/English/Irish.

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>>131817676
so why the rise in scottish/irish/welsh languages
you once made them illegal
they are breaking away from the yoke.
yall are not together
dont be this delusional.

>>131811100
Spics and chinks don't like Muslims, Nigel

>>131818017
Because of tribalistic aspects in those societies which resisted the union the rest of their countrymen wanted and was beneficial for the time, and the British government used an equally tribalistic method of silencing them. Equally, the first British gun seizures in history were against warriors in the Scottish highlands.

The majority were in favour of being a union, this is proven by everything from the Act of the Union 1707 up until the most recent Scottish referendum in 2014 or whenever.

>>131817513
Thats what the Brit Jews want you think, they want to suckle off your teat. Trust us Irish, the Brits are not to be trusted.

>>131811100
>I have a dream
US/UK is already working on this in reality, what are you even saying?

>>131818363
You're talking to the colony that shot at the English until they left us alone. We'll manage.

>>131818263
they are biding their time, slowly rebuilding the culture yall raped and twisted for centuries.
yall are just a teet to suckle on
watch how quickly your northern "brothers" leave you once brexit is ever finalized.

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>>131818363
>Trust us Irish
Yes, trust us.

>>131818562
>yall
confirmed negro.
By northern brothers you mean Scots or North England?

>>131818109
If we connect the pipes, we can flush the brown out.

>>131818434
Evidence? And i don't mean no 1% bullshit of a few millionaires making deals with each other.

>>131818562
^ This man has shown his true colours, do not feed this anti-british troll. His scare tactics will not work. He is one of the reasons the Anglo is divided.

why is it called Anglosphere
the anglo-saxons were raped by vikings, and then again by french vikings "normans"
both altering the language and gene pool , shit you guys spoke french in your high courts for 300years.
now you all are being conquered by pakistanis.
good luck
stay on your end of the pond

>>131811100
Canada is front and center and American only gets a square? Fuck that gay shit.

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We anglo nations share a lot, and we shall fight for each other even in the grimmest of days.

>>131819144
The flag is merely an example, i feared this would happen. For true equality we would need a flag that equally represents us, like the US or EU has.

>>131819383
Do you still have that collage flag? Much as I like some of the visual mashup exercises, I continue to think it probably makes more sense to have something simple and emblematic of a loose and potentially temporary equal footing arrangement.

>>131819304
tadel kadel vadel latvia cannot into anglo

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>>131811100
That's the shittiest flag I've ever seen. If we're gonna have a flag, it better be this one

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>>131819779
Is this what you're on about?

>>131820061
i like that one a lot

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>>131819955
But why?Isn't our anglo heretage enough?
Also
>tadel kadel vadel
Are you trying to simulate Latvian language or something?

Also i post this is every thread, 4chan give me an Anglosphere flag option.

>>131819304
10/10

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>>131820314
the UK has Sharia courts
dont associate with them
they are already gone.

>>131820218
Yeah. It's not much of a flag design as-is, but I think the concept is more realistic. It makes sense to have some sort of symbolism to represent whatever form of pact it takes, but it's unrealistic to think that modern nations are going to subjugate themselves to a supernational flag.

>>131811100
Love the idea, we'll need ww3 to kick off first though.

>>131820671
Practicality over style :)

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>>131820545
ye but who is going to secure the existance of english heretage after UK is gone?We are the purrest on the moment, except for NZ i think.

>>131819304
>>131820314
Reject the EU and adopt English as your official language and we might add you as a trial member. Then maybe after fifty years or so, if you make good progress to becoming an Anglo nation culturally and politically, you can become part of our Anglo Union.

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>>131811100
aye lad

>>131821136
>fifty years or so
This hurts me greatly that the Anglo Union alone would take this time or longer to even form. But this fight is for the people not for me. Future generations will prosper.

>>131821302
aye

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>>131821136
idk our culture is pic related, isn't that enough anglo?

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>>131821628
T.Pure anglo culture

>>131821479
Well, look. You've got a relatively limited window of opportunity to make brexit real. If that means kicking out May and cycling in Corbyn, and then maybe booting him after a bit, too, just to keep it all from ossifying, then do it already.

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>>131821735
Causine

>>131821843
That looks pretty yummers. Is that some sort of beet tea?

>Australia is full of shitposters
>Canada is full of fags, liberals, and potheads
>Britain just announced free abortions and put a living baby down like a dog rather than let him travel to the US

New Zealanders welcome. Everyone else: fuck off we're full.

>>131818864
>Evidence? And i don't mean no 1% bullshit of a few millionaires making deals with each other.
May and Trump have been in talks discussing greater freedom of movement post-Brexit for awhile now. I'm not going to spoonfeed you. Look it up.

>>131822016
lol thats borscht
its so good the jews tried to steal it as their own

>>131822122
>Britain just announced free abortions and put a living baby down like a dog rather than let him travel to the US
wtf i love the UK now

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>>131822016
Have some moar lol

>>131822122
See, here's where you're not thinking ahead. We all get to lever conditionalities on each other, and the US is the biggest player in the room. Canada is already our back yard, UK gets to have a say by way of its financial sector but will need a solid trading basis if it really wants to tell the EU to get fucked. The rest have it nice an optional, at their pleasure, as it should be.

>>131822313
Oh, does it have cream in it then? I always thought of borscht of being beet soup, but there's always been doubt in the family as to whether or not that's just a weird linguistic hangover.

>>131822596
yes sour cream makes it a lighter pink color

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>>131820218
>Anglo
>Irish
I'm gonna puke.

>>131822555
Checked. Peasant feasts best feasts.

>>131822901
It's funny how heavily anglicized Ireland has become since "Independance". Top Cuckery.

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>>131820061
That one is also hideous.

Not that mine is any better, or in any way historically accurate. I just find it funny.

>>131821628
>dat neorenaissance/hanseatic architecture
Breddy gorgeous, mate.

>>131823163
dude most confederate generals and even the president were of welsh and irish decent, read a book before you larp a flag. faggot.

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>anglos
>white

>>131811100
The only possible outcome I see from this is

>American liberals move to New Zealand
>We Wuz's and Spics moving to England and Canada for gibs
>Mass Exodus of white Brits to USA/Australia/NZ

>>131823613
>Conflating Scots-Irish (Ulstermen) with Irish Catholics.

Dumb cunt

>>131825389
>the point being they weren't anglo
thanks for proving my point
top marks lad wuwu m8 jolly good

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>>131825389
Stop replying to him. Ctrl+f his ID. Every post reveals the pain of his kang ancestors.

>>131825878
The whole point of the Ulster Plantations was to turn the rebellious region into a heavily "Anglo" area. That is why the settlers were brought in from the heavily protestant Scottish Lowlands and Northern England.

If they weren't "Anglo" then Northern Ireland wouldn't exist.

>>131816060
Kind of funny given the Queen is Germanic

>>131827063
That was his point. She has German heritage, but she clearly isn't German.

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>>131820545
Never forget where you come from, anon.

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>>131827147
i was born in america
doesnt mean i have american dna

>>131827134
Ahh, I'm a dense faggot

>>131827505
>Muh heritage

>>131827505
Yuck only 14% Germanic.

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we need more anglos in Christchurch, New Zealand. we are still trying to recover from the 2011-12 earthquakes that ripped our city to pieces. If we dont get fellow anglos to emigrate here, it will be the Chinese and Indians that overrun us. Help us or watch another Anglo Nation be overrun.

>>131827840
>fascist flag
>fascio
>latiin
>italian
>complains about low germanic
DOH! you got me larper!

>>131827505
Relying on these websites instead of having record of your family back to the year 600.

>>131828418
Is real estate cheap? I've got a ton of equity and crypto, and I don't think NZ is on the list for Nukes.

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>>131828604
my apologies, but my ancestors didnt live in 1 town for centuries fucking their cousins.
i shall strive to educate my children to do so.

>>131811100
>They as Anglo should have the RIGHT to live and work in our country, treated as equals!

Suddenly everyone is anglo.

>>131829027
Four or five generations and my family almost fits within the boundaries of one of our modern nation-states. That's to say nothing of invaders and rape babies. But still pretty good to be at least that much homogeneous.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uep7GA9hCKM

I support the idea of an Anglosphere. You see, we're all brothers-in-arms regardless of our past. It was the Anglosphere which shaped the world as we know it, never forget that. It's clear that those who disregard the Anglosphere aren't Anglo's but merely subversive Germanics or Non-Whites that are jealous they haven't reached the level of excellence that the Anglosphere, or simply Great Britain accomplished.

The American War of Indepence wasn't against Great Britain, but merely a dispute between Anglo's. Those colonial battalions weren't marching with the American flag, but merely parading around with our Union Jack banner. It's a shame that we weren't given proper representation in the empire, if only.

>>131828831
sorry, but real estate is at all time highs, but the south island of NZ has, as of now, a majority Anglo Population, wont be for too much longer if we dont get reinforcements. Average house price in NZ is around the $NZ400,000, so around $US250,000.

>>131816027
>No beans. We're a union
GET OUT

>>131832749
We're literally the United States.
>GET OUT
We already shot our way out. If you don't want to have a friendly relationship then go get fucked.

I for one like this idea.
We could be like the EU, but without the micromanaging and immigration quotas. We could rival those eurofags, Brits have always been closer to their former colonies as long as our existence anyway.
We could dominate the world together. We just get to vote this time and stay separate and keep our guns.

>>131832869
Accept the Queen as a figurehead and you can join our gang

>>131833211
Never. Ask Canada to kiss the ring first -- they shot at QEII, not the US.

If you want to make otherwise good deals as allies then we'll talk.

>>131811100
Anglo pride worldwide
We're going to have to bring the leafs at gunpoint

>>131833410
Nah you're alright, do us a favour and invade canada from the south and west and we'll come in from the east. They need some sense smacked into them

>>131833945
Canada is still owned by the Crown. They're the bestest neighbors ever, but you have to officiate it.

>>131833410
If you can't accept the Queen as even a figurehead then you really will not see an Anglo union.

You'd never convince the Aus/Can/NZ crowd to forego the Queen's leadership in a completely honorary sense. I understand why, as an American, the Queen is difficult to wrap your head around but she has essentially no power besides ceremonial (unless she wanted to make a statement) and serves, especially in these trying times, as the embodiment of an historic England that we may one day return to.

I suggest you check out King Charles III, it's a pretty good example of why a Queen/King (even as only a figurehead) can be incredibly useful.

The relationship between a monarch and their people is different than that of a government or president and their people, the monarch is beholden to the people and vice versa in a way not replicated by any modern system.

>>131818363

Ginger niggers.

>>131834082
>she has essentially no power besides ceremonial
Soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfHrMnl1uLo

>>131834082
That's quite correct. The future Anglosphere is predicated on a very simple duopoly concept. The US is not really part of the Empire, but it is part of the sphere. Thusly, we have a basic balance of powers between the US and the UK to formulate the basis of it.

Then all you lot can keep doing what you like to do with kilometers and funny wrenches and what not, and we can keep doing things our way. It's really about various underlying geopolitical alliances, not about your monarchy.

>>131834082
I have to admit, as much of a drain it is having them fly around the globe and paying for upkeep of the palace, that marching in the square and the plane flyby shit was spectacular.

What about us American Catholics? 25% of Americans are Catholic, are we going to be oppressed by the Anglicans again if we join up?

>>131834332
But we use miles anon. It's not "our" monarchy, it's the Anglo monarchy and as I said if America refused to accept it they wouldn't be allowed in any formed Anglo union, as Can/Aus/NZ would all back the Queen vs the US. The Empire has nothing to do with it really, it's more about The Commonwealth.

>>131834396
Paying for the upkeep of the palace is well worth it for the money she brings in from tourism and all that land she owns that she leases to the UK - if she kept it she would be the richest person on the planet.

>>131822016

Warren Beet Tea.

>>131834319
I really liked the premise of this but was angered by how much of a lefty circlejerk it ended up being.

>>131829027

Because they were gypsies wandering the land stealing and fucking their sisters.

>>131834609
>Lizzie pays for herself
Without a doubt, I quite like all the pageantry of it all also

>>131834676
I saw the trailer, and saw a negress negotiating with Prince Harry. Decided not to buy it. That scene is great however. I'd like to see it happen under different pretence.

>>131834609
And the US is not part of the Commonwealth. I'm talking about having a balance of powers, as befits anything grown out of the Western half of the Roman Empire. In this case, the root of it is Commonwealth vs. US.

It's very simple. This ensures that both sides have reasonably equal bargaining power to work together or apart as the situation unfolds without anybody having to be the slave of the other.

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>>131811100
White race Empire with a sole ruler that secures the integrity and peace of the white race.
>Africa
>Europe
>Americas
>Australia
>Middle East
Colonize and conquer. The vast deserts, mountains, and Siberia seperate us from the Indians and Oriental states. We should be able to live in peace with such grand natural barriers.
>also the significantly higher outputs from White Africa and White South Africa means we could have an economic and priduction boom like nothing ever imagined before.
>American production x5

>>131834909
Indeed, I think the monarchy will be key to regaining any shred of British culture, if we're ever to see that happen after its demise.

>>131834987
Yeah I watched it on Youtube and just skipped over the Harry bits, didn't add much to the plot.

>>131835042
It simply wouldn't happen anon, if an Anglo union was formed the Queen would head it and the Americans would have no way of strong-arming their way in without accepting the Queen as at least some form of figurehead. If an Anglo union is formed I will expect it will begin between Aus and the UK with the Queen automatically heading it.

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>>131811100
Would be nice wouldn't it.

>>131811100
FUCK OFF, NO 'BRITISH' PAKIS IN AUSTRALIA
IVE SEEN YOUR CITIZENRY- ALL SHITSKINS.

UNTIL YOU FIX YOUR BORDERS, WE'RE FULL.

>>131835252
That's your own lack of foresight.

I would like to recommend, "The Anglo-American Empire" by Carrol Quigley. Or even "Tragedy and Hope" by the same author. What it comes down to is recognizing how to work our our fundamental differences in the context of a gentleman's agreement.

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It's already begun

>>131835443
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/2016-australian-census-reveals-sydney-is-now-more-asian-than-european/news-story/f59b37efefc7305ce4e2ef5bbf14be63

who you callin asian punk


>>131835501
It's not my lack of foresight, it's yours. Any form of Anglo union would have the Queen heading it, if the US was to be part of said union they would be forced to accept the Queen. Or they simply wouldn't be part of it and could carry on doing their own thing, with Aus/Can/UK/NZ combined - we wouldn't really care.

>>131811100

If the Queen is the sovereign of Canada, Australia, and so on, then since the UK has had its sovereignty ceded to the EU, does that make Canada, Australia, and so on a part of the EU?

Has anyone done any legal research on this question?

>>131835721
No, that's exactly wrong. That's why it has never worked todate. It's always been the problem that the US isn't going to bow to the monarchy.

>>131835791
No since the UK giving its sovereignty to the EU was largely metaphoric for the huge amounts of control over nations, ours included, they've amassed without any legitimacy. They haven't literally, as of yet, declared themselves a federal government.

The Queen's ministers still hold the powers to dissolve the Canadian and Australian governments though, and fire PMs.

>>131835791
She never swore fealty. Parliament did, but we'll be out soon so no worries

>>131835791
Queen > Parliament > EU

is how the power is transferred

>>131835859
Exactly, they would never - hence they'd probably never be in any "Anglo union". The sad fact is that most Americans don't understand the anti-monarchy spiel is deliberate misinfo from the powers that be to keep us divided, you even mentioned "fundamental differences" of which any UK/Can/Aus/NZ anglo would tell you there aren't realistically any.

>>131835721
>anglosphere must bow down to german blueblood
one step forward, two steps back

>>131836074
She's not even German, check her ancestry properly instead of throwing out your fake news headlines.

>>131836032
>to keep us divided
But that's backward.

There's literally nothing stopping the existing alliance.

good post OP.
Imagine a world where all the anglosphere countries were joined as one federation or republic. After we kicked out all the nonwhites we'd be the greatest superpower the world has ever seen.

>>131836142
>House of Windsor is the royal house of the United Kingdom and the other Commonwealth realms. The dynasty is of German paternal descent and was originally a branch of the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, itself derived from the House of Wettin, and it succeeded the House of Hanover
are you serious with "shes not even german meme" ?

>>131836144
>There's literally nothing stopping the existing alliance.
You won't accept the Queen, even as a figurehead. Your country is founded on the rights of Englishmen but also on a strong anti-monarchy position, if you can't ever get over that and join the rest of the Anglos you'll never see the US in an Anglo union.

>>131835721
yeah that's sydney, its always been a shithole like that. But your entire country is a shitskin fest - with all due respect.

I am fully behind the idea in principle but when i see all the pakis, all the muslims, all the africans - i cant support it. I'd rather have a chink or a nip than a paki.

If you fixed your immigration system then maybe yeah but as it stands no way, we're full.

>>131836401
This is a problem of an Americans concept of lineage, let me guess, you're "Irish"?

>>131835971
>>131835972

So, is there any legal interpretation for parliament to have the authority to cede the Queen's sovereignty?

If the queen never swore fealty, then she is not considered a citizen of the EU? It appears to me that you have an argument for #brexit being unnecessary because the EU is not a legitimate part of the realm.

However, if the Queen is an EU citizen, then it appears to me that the Commonwealth realm is in the EU. In other words, if the UK in the EU is legitimate, then Canada, Australia, etc are double-cucked.

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Can Dixie be a part of the Anglosphere?

We bring a mighty big culture game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZmxZThb084
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcAp9ryNlRw

>>131836401
European monarchs all married into each others families for centuries like aristocratic families for the last 4,000 years. Was Kaiser British because he was the grandson of Queen Victoria? The same can be applied otherwise. I think Elizabeth serving the UK her entire life as the longest reigning monarch in history gives her enough credence to call herself British.

>>131836557
But that's London, always been a shithole like that.

Maybe pay a visit to this country, England, the birthplace of the Anglo, first lad.

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Your flag is wrong. It's this flag or no deal

>>131836468
You're being very wrong-headed. This difference between us is key to making the system work. That's how we manage a balance of powers instead of a royal dictatorship.

>>131836032
>Queen > Parliament > EU
>is how the power is transferred

That's just what I mean: Did the Queen give Parliament the power to enter the EU? If so, then the Commonwealth realm is subject to the EU, since the Queen is now an EU citizen.

>>131836616
The Queen isn't a citizen of any country, she doesn't have a passport etc.

As I said in my prev post, it goes Queen > Parliament > EU, the Queen is sovereign over Aus, Can and NZ and the UK. The UK then passes that sovereignty onto the EU, the rest don't.

>>131836616
The Queen doesn't even need to hold a British passport. They're issued in her name.

But most are old. Set out in the ensuing trials after the English Civil War and Glorious Revolution, particularly the Rex v Rex trials. Bill of Rights 1689, and the Act of Settlement 1701 cover this too.

English monarch-parliament relationships are a clusterfuck of historical events leading to different bits of legislation and aren't covered under 1 document. The Queen has the power to dissolve parliament still though our system is undeniably biased towards parliament.

>>131811100
The greatest gift the UK gave to it'd colonies and subsequent nations was common law, the USA only survives as a nation because although they tampered with it they retained the spirit of British justice, that is the cornerstone of civilisation and what the rest of the world lacks.

>>131836587
>>131836635

sure Nigels, blood means everything, cept when talking about the queens bloodline
convenient
did you make sure this was legal in your sharia courts before adhering to said hypocrisy?

>>131836999
you're still here?

the anglo race must be obliterated

>>131836710
There's no such thing as an Anglo royal dictatorship and hasn't been for a good few hundred years, this is the anti-monarchy crap. There aren't differences between us, only Americans refusing to accept the Queen in a non-power role for stupid ideological reasons that don't stand up to scrutiny.

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>>131836663
lol ive been to old blighty plenty of times mate and its grim. muslims EVERYWHERE. Except when you get up north.

Yes, we are infested with asians but our muslim population make up 1-2% of the country whereas the UK is full of them. I just dont want to see the floodgate open to all these british pakis and muslim africans.

We need to sort our own borders first before we make them even more lose. Again, i back the idea in principle but we are not ready yet - And dont think i enjoy writing any of this, it does genuinely pain me to see the state the UK is in.

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>>131837156
you obviously didn't travel far.

>>131837066
How do they not stand up to scrutiny? Have you not read our Declaration of Independence? Whether or not you agree with it, it's fucking brilliant.

And besides, none of the Monarchy's various colonies or dominions are still in effect quite the same way these days. The world just doesn't operate like it did pre-WWII. It's time to work with reality rather than fantasy.

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>>131811100
(((CANZUK))) is funded by (((people)))

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I saluted the Anglosphere flag flown near a famous bridge on a recent trip.

>>131837156
But we're literally not full of them mate, our cities are completely under siege and I'll give you that but there are PLENTY of places that are fine, just like Aus. This kind of bickering is divisive, it's essentially "you've got this problem." "no you do" when we both do.

>>131837305
The Declaration of Independence is mostly about representation and taxation. In fact the leaders behind American Independence stressed to the King that they meant no disrespect in doing so and did the utmost to avoid a war for independence. As for reality, the reality is that Aus, Canada and NZ accept the Queen, even in a figurehead role, and if the US refused to do so they wouldn't be granted access to our super cool club.

>>131837305
You can mould reality as you go.

>>131837223
well forgive me for having such a negative perception of the UK when you guys are on the news every 5 minutes because of some muslim running people down.

We are not ready yet for an open border system.
For Australia, it means getting all the shitskins from the UK, all the shitskins from canada, all the shitskins and spics from the U.S and all the maori shitskins from NZ.

We need to fix our own problems first before we loosen our borders.

Anglos are subhuman. Everyone knows it.

>>131837567
That's a byproduct of all our news being pesky remainers. They're running a sabotage campaign as instructed by the EU and other elites to harshen our relationships with other nations.

>>131837473
I totally agree mate, we undoubtedly have this problem too. But it just doesnt make sense to make it easier for shitskins to move in between us. It means All of us are held hostage by say Canada's more liberal immigration policy. It means one nation with a weaker border policy affects all of us. I just think we need to work on our own borders first before we do this.

>>131836865
>The Queen isn't a citizen of any country, she doesn't have a passport etc.

Well, that is a relief.

>The UK then passes that sovereignty onto the EU, the rest don't.

>sovereignty

This blows my mind that you can have this EU and the Queen still retains her sovereignty over the UK and at the same time shares it with the EU.

In theory, could she, at a whim, dissolve the government and unilaterally back out of the EU? What sort of power does she actually have left?

In the states, we have a concept of dual sovereignty, but it's not exactly the same.

>>131837567
Hanging out on /pol/ makes you susceptible to thinking the whole of the UK is Bradford. We have a terminal illness and the future is dark but as it is now, I live in cumbria and genuinely haven't seen a muslim this year.

>>131837473
>granted access to our super cool club.
That's the whole point of it. The US is the world's sole unipolar superpower. Why wouldn't we both want to pursue mutual benefit under friendly terms with the US being distinct from the Commonwealth?

It's like basic common sense or something.

>>131837757
I understand that lad, I'd like to see more union between us before open borders anyway. It'd be nice to see the Anglosphere speak with more of a single voice on matters.

>>131837790
The overwhelming majority of the Queen's prerogative powers are devolved to her ministers, there is one exception that allows her to wield power herself. Only "in grave constitutional crisis," the Sovereign can "act contrary to or without Ministerial advice." With no precedent in modern times, it's not clear what would actually constitute this, but the possibility remains.

Other powers like Royal Assent are ceremonial. Haven't been refused since, I think, Queen Anne in 1708.

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>>131836931
>But most are old. Set out in the ensuing trials after the English Civil War and Glorious Revolution, particularly the Rex v Rex trials. Bill of Rights 1689, and the Act of Settlement 1701 cover this too.
>English monarch-parliament relationships are a clusterfuck of historical events leading to different bits of legislation and aren't covered under 1 document. The Queen has the power to dissolve parliament still though our system is undeniably biased towards parliament.

This shit is really interesting to me. I'm from Florida, so we are subject to the Laws of England up to July 4, 1776.

Your law in those days is our law too. They don't exactly teach that shit here. I appreciate your explanations since you're much closer to the source.

>>131837858
well that sounds fucking fantastic but the UK's experience with the EU has made me naturally suspicious of big free movement immigration policies - especially when countries like Canada have a very liberal and weak immigration policy and countries like the U.S have a very porous border.

We are an Island continent, it gives us a very unique advantage to regulate our immigration and i dont want to be held hostage by liberal canada or other countries with lax border controls.

>>131827505
congrats you are no better than a mexican

>>131838080
>Only "in grave constitutional crisis," the Sovereign can "act contrary to or without Ministerial advice."

Ceding fucking sovereignty to a foreign power seems like a constitutional crisis to me.

>>131838316
the way the EU works is slow and subtle

we woke up one day and realised we'd passed it away and set to work getting it back

>>131838316
This is what I'm hoping for>>131834319
Elizabeth is too old now. I agree though. If this isn't a threat worthy of dissolving parliament nothing is.

>>131838413
I worry for the monarchy after the Queen passes.

>>131838080
>Other powers like Royal Assent are ceremonial. Haven't been refused since, I think, Queen Anne in 1708.

Then she consented to the situation, thereby making her an EU citizen. This makes CAN, AUS, NZ, etc subject to EU.

>>131838053
I absolutely agree that we definitley need to start showing greater cooperation on the world stage,

The 'anglosphere' needs to be formalised through international summits/bodies and visits by our leaders so there is greater integration and cooperation. We need to return to our anglo roots and rival the EU as a very tight bloc bound by heritage, culture and blood but i dont think we are ready for free movement.

Also some people in the commonwealth countries are a bit salty that the UK chose the EU over us - some people sort of think well you had your chance but you fugged us off for the EU and now that isn't working for you, your coming back to us

>>131838588
It might under some legal technicality but Aus & NZ will likely object to that strongly, I'd imagine. Canada would happily join.

>>131838548
Me too, how can a new monarch flourish in this political climate?

>>131836623
>flooded america with blacks
>tried to destroy america
>now flooding america with hispanics

no lol you will sit down, stay quiet, and thank god that you are part of something far better than anything you could ever be on your own

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>>131811100
>Canada
>Anglo

kek, sorry but the anglos in this country are all over age 65 and this is now a chink/muslim territory. sorry
I wish it was not so, as I will likely have to suicide soon as i am one of the last white peple living where i am and I just cant take it any longer.
Take the leaf off of that glorious flag, our flag was the ensign, the leaf is a marxist mark.

>>131838588
She isn't a citizen, she's a monarch.

>>131838617
It's much more complex than that, our intellectual elite has always gotten their politics from France, hence the idea of things like the champagne socialist. The average Brit you see is disgusted with the whole situation and would stand with our cousins across the world rather than Europeans. The international elite do what they can to label us as Europeans even though none of us would identify as such (except maybe now thanks to the rise of the socialist left)

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>>131838548
i don't. charles is a cuck but he'd get slapped down if he tried to do anything because of his unpopularity. just gotta hold out until 'darlings of the world' will and kate get in.

all the same, God Save the Queen

>>131839088
Will and Kate will be the destruction of the monarchy mate, they're a celebrity hegemony and present the exact same problems Diana did.

>>131839189
So in other words they'll go in through one side of the tunnel but not come out the other side?

>>131838897
speak for yourself i am 50% english 50%irish and i hung a portrait of the queen in my house

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>>131839189
What do you think the odds are he goes full night of the long knives by the time he's 20 and makes himself king? Growing up in this political climate he might not be as stupid as the rest of us.

>>131838923
>She isn't a citizen, she's a monarch.

She isn't a citizen of the UK, I grant you that. She is the sovereign. However, if she assented to the UK's entry into the EU, then she IS an EU citizen. This drags the entire Commonwealth realm under the jurisdiction of the EU, since the Queen ceded her sovereignty to it.

The Anglosphere wanted to be united, well, apart from the US, all you need is an EU passport. This could be tested by a canadian, australian, new zealander, etc., applying for an EU passport.

>>131839189
no mate, YOURE wrong, Will has had HRH the Queen as a role model his entire adult life. It's different from Charles who grew up thinking that he represented the youth and his 'mum' was out of touch. Will definitely knows that the Queen is the perfect example of a monarch, although I do wish she would put her finger on the scale more when it came to issues of society and english identity

>>131839525
shut your fucking mouth the Queen did not cede her sovereignty to the EU. is your soviet cardboard cereal giving you brain damage? there is no 'anglosphere' without the monarchy. period. Canada will literally become a Chinese vassal

Itt: everyone jelly of the trans tasman bond

>>131839427
I hope that he manages to maintain a modicum of tradition and decency that is expected in a monarch. But if he stood with the people then I assume the people would stand with him.

>>131839525
The Queen hasn't ceded sovreignty to the EU, she cedes sovreignty to Parliament who then ceded that to the EU. The Queen has just seen and signed the document that allows UK parliament to do so, she's still above that level so doesn't come into it. Again it goes:
Queen > Parliament > EU

>>131839558
But the Queen isn't a perfect example of a monarch anon.

>>131811100
Indians are Anglo?

>>131839769
She was in the post war period following the death of moral absolutism and religion. If she had of tried to do anything other than dedicate her life to service of the commonwealth she would have been targeted by the jews.

>>131811100
This is all cool, until australians start sending abos, canadians sending gooks, americans sending mexicans and english start sending to your country

Anglosphere will never be great again unless we deal with our one common (((enemy)))

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>>131839690
>shut your fucking mouth the Queen did not cede her sovereignty to the EU


There there, leafcuck, grown ups are talking. Run along and go play in traffic.

>>131840078
says the moron who is arguing about monarchy when they literally don't understand the most fundamental concepts of it.... oookay

>>131828418
Go down to a construction site aka the whole cbd and it's Irish workers everywhere

>>131839945
She'll be targeted anyway, especially after her passing, bless her. I doubt she'll be six feet under before you hear calls for a "modernisation" of the monarchy.

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>>131838861
Oh, I never said I didn't like them. I just said they need to stop HORSING AROUND

>>131840234
i think the cult of personality will explode after she dies. imo the British sov is the de facto head of western civilization. Head of the Commonwealth, the living embodiment of all commonwealth realms, head of the Church of England? Who else?

>>131840438
I agree there'll be a huge outcry and weeping etc, but the media will utilise that to turn it into a "WILL THERE EVER BE A MONARCH AS GOOD AS ELIZABETH II" argument etc and push for the monarchy becoming even less powerful and even more for show etc.

>>131840568
which is a typical liberal nonsense argument. look how amazing and wonderful HRH highness was and the lasting impact on our society! guess we don't need the monarchy now! that's a hard sell even for the lefties, souldead british republicans withstanding.. god help those wretches

>>131822901
Irish are not racially good enough to be Anglo. Scotland and Wales are fine. Americans and Canadians non British ancestry tends to be German who are fine(irish ancestry is small enough to be OK). Same with Australians and New Zealanders

>>131839769
>The Queen hasn't ceded sovreignty to the EU, she cedes sovreignty to Parliament who then ceded that to the EU. The Queen has just seen and signed the document that allows UK parliament to do so, she's still above that level so doesn't come into it. Again it goes:
>Queen > Parliament > EU


I recall, but sovereignty is an interesting animal. I mean she isn't subject to your law because she is the source of it. That being said, it appears to me that her assent to the entrance into the EU could have been a very clever form of swearing fealty.

https://www.cvce.eu/content/publication/1999/1/1/e83c0df3-c5d5-4d52-bf9a-128dbe8c63d5/publishable_en.pdf

>3. The provisions concerning the rights and obligations of the Member States and the powers and jurisdiction of the institutions of the Communities as set out in the Treaties referred to in paragraph shall apply in respect of this Treaty.

>powers and jurisdiction

Granted, this document doesn't do much on its own, it seems like there is a way to chase it back.

I will gut laugh so hard if Canada is an EU member and doesn't even know it.

>>131840204
>monarchy

I'm not even arguing. You're just pissed that you're an EU member and don't even realize it. I'm talking to my britbong bros like grown ups while you cry like a bitch.

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>>131838923
>>131838401
>>131838080
>>131836865
>>131836032

Even if I am wrong (I really hope I am) it seems like someone should have some legal background on where the sovereignty actually lies. It's too easy to say the sovereign is the source of law, but where exactly is the sovereignty of the EU derived? It looks a lot like what we have in the us, but worse. Where is the source of the EU's sovereignty?

>>131842017
>I will gut laugh so hard if Canada is an EU member and doesn't even know it.

Literally only an anarcho-capitalist could be so stupid.

>>131816844
T. Fritz McNeill

>>131842536

Jesus Christ, canadacuck, I understand that you don't think your an EU member or that any of the world does. I get it. I was asking a very specific legal question that I was hoping those of you who are under the Queen's reign could shed more light upon.

The concept of sovereignty in the us is somewhat different, hence my questions. I know how sovereignty works in my country, but you can't seem to give me a clear answer about yours, which makes you a fucking faggot.

>>131843004

*you're

>>131843004
A legal question? Do people laugh out loud when you walk in the room? How does somebody be so oblivious?

>>131843130
>A legal question? Do people laugh out loud when you walk in the room? How does somebody be so oblivious?

Yes, faggot, a legal question. It's about the concept of sovereignty, the source of law.

The UK has become an Orwellian State with its citizens having Stockholm syndrome

Canada has become an effeminate country with outrageous laws being put in place that would make UK proud.

The US is the center-point of most if not all forms of degeneracy and they're fighting a losing battle with their only saving grace being Trump but who knows how long he can fight for.

Australia is being Annexed by China and stripped from behind by its aborigines.

New Zealand is just a nation of sheep-fuckers.

Anglosphere was doomed from the start lads.

>>131816027
>State borders are literally nothing but a "Welcome to XXX State!" when you drive across them, except for legal technicalities of where you reside, or where you buy your booze and fireworks, or whatever else.

It's so interesting how state borders are literally nothing but each state has a very distinct culture and legal-political framework. I can't think of anything else like it in history except maybe the HRE, except the US is way more centrally controlled than the HRE ever was.

>>131844140
It's pretty great. Thousands of miles in all directions and even we don't all talk the same and have different cultures, we're still Americans.

I like it a lot.

>>131844140
Each state doesn't have a different culture. Just abolish state governments. They aren't even small government, if you want small government have rule by municipalities.

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Eventually one day I'll stop just dreaming about it anon and start a global fraternity dedicated to realizing the concept of a United Anglosphere. Til then I will promote Anglo-American identity and try to find a nice Southern gf to eventually raise a big Protestant family with

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>>131833211
Get a real monarch who RULES instead of the milquetoast "monarchy" you've had since 1688. The Anglosphere could unite, but only under the auspices of a King who is a true leader. He could even arise in an Anglosphere country outside of the UK, but your figureheads make a joke out of the idea of monarchy.

>>131850217
Anon., it's better to join one that exists in its limitation rather than staying the course not knowing if the next head of state in the U.S. might be like the previous one.

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>>131825878

What the other guy said, Ulstermen were settlers from lowland Scotland and northern England, lowland Scots spoke a Germanic language (Scots, which has its origin in Old English) in comparison to Highland Scots who spoke Gaelic

>>131828831

>Cheap real estate in NZ

Funniest thing I've heard all day