Reconquista Thread

>>131802289
Good luck instilling the "us versus them" mentality in the overly cucked societies we have today. I used to love the idea of Europe joining together, but it apparently took a turn towards Europe becoming an African shithole rather quickly.

>>131803461
We will always have each other bro, if no other euro nations join in, for Europa, we will bring the glory of Reconquista once again.

>>131803461
I think people are starting to wake up. All the children born today are born of those who care.

>>131803461
rest of europe joins the fold.

Meet same fate as spain.

those 1400 years of conquest by arabs and africans have made spanish citizens honorary arabs due to rape of women and culling of men over and over for said 1400 years.

It's not really surprising europe is going to shit, arab conquest never stopped, it just changed form post 1945

>>131803697
Fun fact: Spain sat at the helm of the HRE. Norway is further from being European than they are.

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>>131802289
First for uncle James.

>>131803697
Actually during those years nothing happened.
Marriage between muslims and natives wasn't allowed.
What happened is that the few muslims that got left behind were forced to convert when the reconquista was over, which is why Andalucia is brown, while the rest of the peninsula is mediterranean.

>>131803656
I love you Portubro, but the only thing standing between us and a demographic shift is cuckservative politicians keeping the stalemate on migration. If the EU pushes for an influx or the left rises to power, we're fucked.

>>131803697
It cannot compare to today's PC bullshit; racial purity was a big deal back then, and fate was conquered by fire and sword. Now we just take it deep.

>>131803697
There's no use bitching over who is white or not. It's pretty fucking clear, native European is European. Divide and conquer.

>>131803690
I hope so, but I'm afraid it will be too late.
But who knows, maybe fighting off the invaders in a decade or two will really unite us Europeans. Europeans have fought and won with worse odds.

>>131803690
>All the children born today
They will be full of hate since they grow amongst the newcomes but when they are adult it will be already too late since they will be a minority.

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>>131803697
>those 1400 years of conquest by arabs and africans have made spanish citizens honorary arabs due to rape of women and culling of men over and over for said 1400 years.

Arabs and iberians don´t share any of those stories you told, juts see how differnt pops are, sorry to destroy your fetish abdul.

>>131804204
I know many Andalusians and the blue eye trait is more common amongst them than other groups of iberians I know (except Catalans and Asturians)

>>131804579
Anecdotical evidence is pointless.

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>>131804247
>>131804432

yeah, no. Spanish people literally aren't white you dingus.

1400 years of ethnical cleansing made sure of that, by the moor armies / arab proxies and arabs directly

All men got killed from south to north, all of spain, but a tiny corner of northeastern spain.

for 1400 years.

That's a lot of generations defiled... The essentially aren't white, there's no semantics, nothing to argue regarding this subject. It's not divisive, it's a factual statement. The inhabitants of spain are not white, and haven't been for a long time.

>>131804404
Numbers aren't everything. And don't forget the new world. Many may be mestizos, but there are legions of Catholics who strongly identify as Latin(Roman) who are the descendants of the conquistadors.

Based Spain. My favourite country in the world.

>>131804720
>Norway
Oh yeah, it's this guy.
And by the way, how did 700 years become 1400?

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>>131804720
Fuck off divide an conquer shill. What 1400 years are you talking about? What genetic evidence do you have? You are full of shit.

>>131804225
I know bro, it is hiting us hard, some parts of Lisbon, don´t even look portuguese/european anymore, we see people from all the world. And the clock is against us.

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>>131804793
>but there are legions of Catholics who strongly identify as Latin(Roman) who are the descendants of the conquistadors
Nah, they are gib back the horo trier mostly. What they are is more savage than the ustase, this I admit.

The way I've understood the EU's problem we can divide it into three.
> The US is a belligerent little bitch.
I mean, no offense burgerbros, but you guys are kinda ZOG at this point. Let's not beat around the bush. You guys have been fucking the EU every chance you've gotten. Because we can't have the EU rising as a global power. The problem is that the only way the EU survives this shit from the (((US))) in the long run is if the US either stops being ZOGed, or if they federalize into a stronger union capable of resisting. This is part of why that German politician changed his position from "The EU is just an economic thing bro" to "We need a fucking army". It's the fucking kikes.

> The second problem is the migrant stream
Which again flows kinda from the first, since there wouldn't be such a migrant stream if it wasn't for ZOG. A reasonable American might now point out that France were the belligerent guys in Libya, and that's right. France's Jewish president WAS INDEED the one who called for this shit. There's also Syria, and muh "immigration is good" narrative. They need to be destroyed, but luckily, Germany has already meticulously made those calculations for us. :^)

> The fucking Poles need to fucking chill
Seriously. Can the faggots in the Polish parliament do anything without blaming it on the Russians? Seriously? It is inevitable that some sort of solution with the Russians must be found, and you're going to have to live with them in peace sooner or later. Just accept Crimea, take Lvov, and call turnabout fair play. Then you can drop the sanctions, and make friends.

And yeah, the EU-RF confrontation happened because of (((US))) meddling in Ukraine.

IOW. The US fucking made this mess to make sure that the EU stayed weak. The only way to stop this shit is either growing strong, or having the US removing their Skypes, and France stop cucking so much. They are in a sense much worse than the Germans.

>>131804853
You aren't very familiar with your own countrys history if you say that.

>>131804941
"muh divide and conquer" "muh native europeans!!"

They aren't europeans anymore, they are arabs / african descent.

They literally aren't historically tied to europe, other than rape.

tbhfamquam i wouldn't be surprised if i've had this discussion with you before someplace, regarding the whiteness of spanish people. Only a few americans that care about the semantics surrounding it.


Probally cuz you're a spic, and try to validate your arab bloodline.

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>>131804643
Is it? Genetically we are all mostly the same according to this.

>>131804720
Hello Ervin Kohn. How goes your quest to make Norway less white today?

>>131805211
>tbhfamquam
>cuz
>i
Are you sure you are from norway?
Because all I see here are ebonics.

>>131805247
>Using Haplomemes

ayyy lmao.

>>131804720
I don't care about whiteness or non-whiteness, Spanish people have remained the same race for thousands of years; your made up fairy tails are nothing but that, fairy tails.
The North African admixture precedes the Berbers -not Arabs, you uncultured swine- thousands of years.

>>131805181
The problem with the EU is that you guys elected a bunch of socialist bureaucrats to manage it. You should feel lucky it's not stronger because Europeans aren't responsible enough to really take care of themselves.

>>131805247
The west has the more Arab blood due to colonization of empty expanses of land and whatnot. They couldn't be bothered to kick the last of them and resettle.

>>131804853
We had regained mostly everything by 1250, so it's even less than that.

>>131805247
Of course you're "all the same", arabs made sure you only got to breed with them for a long time.

>>131805396
tbhfamalam you're just upset there's people around that know fucking history and point out spanish people aren't white.

>>131805367
no idea who Ervin Kohn is, quick google shows me a noseman.

>>131805568
Your race is purged, you aren't "the same race" anymore. You're arab/african hybrids. It explains why mexicans are so violent, why the inquisitions were so violent etc etc. You share blood of the arab / moor savages, that is why you all act the same. Your racial traits are that of arab.

>>131805707
>elected
We wish. It'd be easier if we actually voted them in. It's the Bundeskanzler, the French PM and a bunch of unelected bureaucrats.

>>131805835
>tbhfamalam
Poor Norway is invaded by niggers too.
Then again, you have as much history as niggers.

>>131805835
>Your race is purged, you aren't "the same race" anymore. You're arab/african hybrids. It explains why mexicans are so violent, why the inquisitions were so violent etc etc. You share blood of the arab / moor savages, that is why you all act the same. Your racial traits are that of arab.
You are clearly trying to troll, and you aren't even trying to do it properly.
I'll repeat: Spaniards have remained the same for thousands of years and Bereberes did nothing to the gene pool.

>>131804579
>>131804643
He's talking about the colonisation of Jaén by German colonists during Carlos III, Jaén was basically the American west on drugs, with bandoleros, carlistas and guardia civil fighting it out gunslinging around in Sierra Morena. That's why there are many blue eyed and blonde andalusians.

>>131805905
Ignore the buttmad Norwegian; let him waste his time in white tier threads.

>>131805076
Do you see how savageness at times can be a necessity?

>>131805181
USA may be ZOG, our popular culture is trash, but it is your corrupt politicians who bring in the migrants. The international class has no nationality - which is why they see a German or a Swede as functionally equivalent to an illiterate Somali or Moroccan. They are blind to the difference.

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>>131802289

>>131805867
Hmm, I had thought you guys had both elected and unelected officials in it. Isn't there an EU parliament whose members are elected in their home countries?

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https://www.amren.com/news/2017/06/portugal-and-islam/

>>131805905
>dis nigga don't get ironic shitpost-lingo

>>131806056
>You are clearly trying to troll

Yo, bitch I got history on my side. It tells the same tale I am, if I were trolling I'd bring religion into the game.

I ain't even have to break a sweat, as there's nothin' you can say to disprove known history.

You're part of a cucked lineage, might aswell own up to it and admit it. Unless you're a white immigrant / non-ethnic "spanish" heritage.

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>>131805835
I'd much rather be a sandnigger than a snownigger. At least I get to fuck white girls. You mad cuckboi?

>>131804720
We don't care about whiteness. I can't wait till there is no Germanics in this world.

>>131806328
> shitpost-lingo
Jamal, go back to the black promised land of Liberia, please.

>>131806080
>colonisation of Jaén by German colonists during Carlos III
Did this actually happen?

>>131804404
whites have been the minority for all of history
hasn't stopped them from fucking shit sideways

>>131806170
They're virtually powerless and elected indirectly. It doesn't matter, though; the population in many countries is up for cuckdom.

>>131806119
I wish we had a modern day Caesar. There seems to be no pragmatism to today's mainstream politics: it's all fuzzy feelings and trigger responses--though I guess the real problem is how powerful the mass is now at making noise.

>>131806454
>>131806434
>>131806366
Of course "none of you care" about whiteness, because none of y'all are white to begin with.


That's why none of you southerners are doing anything to stop the african invasion that's currently ongoing, you all share blood with the invaders.

>>131802289
We did it once, and God willing we will do it again.

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>>131805707
No, that's not how it worked.
However, you know how laws work right? How it's easier to add laws than to remove them?

Guess who this benefits?
In this case it could benefit us, but half of the anti-immigration movement is fucking NO STEPPY ON SNAKE faggots who refuse to actually enter political institutions or play ball.

So on one hand we have scores of good goyim more than happy to accept bureaucrat positions to push for the greater good, and on the other hand we have people not even trying to get in, all the while murmuring about the fucking statists.

It's so fucking aggravating that the far left has gotten together and pushed their people in everywhere, but none of the right wing does that shit. You have some conservatives, but they're all fucking globalists at this point.

The fucking problem IOW, is that we don't have any presence in institutions because we're all private sector types. Considering how hard it is to repeal stuff, we'd just need to force through hardline anti immigrant stuff ONCE, and we'd buy ourselves decades to organize and infiltrate.

But no. Evidently taking whatever legal and above board action we can to win is bad. Meanwhile, niggers without borders are joining every board, every discussion, every panel that they can get a seat on. While we have people saying that TRS are too public. We can't have our goys out in the public espousing their view now can we?

And that is what I hate about you right wingers. There is a clear as fucking day path to success and you refuse to take it because you're afraid of fucking cooties.

>>131806654
>y'all
Jamal, stop trying.

>>131806545
But you are forgetting they didn't have weapons in the past and now they have, what's more, if they control the government they will control the army.

>>131806119
That's actually not true. They can see the difference and they're banking on them.
Do you want me to redpill you on Sweden's immigration policies, who they really benefit and how?

>>131806739
*smacks lips* can't even refutee my arguments there, cuckboi. Retorting to just parroting phrases made.

Yousa dun fucked up bitchboi

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>>131806654
Please ignore this one. He is not adding anything to the conversation.

>>131806546
I think a modern day "strong man" will eventually emerge. The only question is from where, and when. I hope it does not take too long.

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>>131806654
We are not going to rest until the white race is 100% destroyed. We have a secret alliance with the eternal anglo.

>>131806654
>y'all
The EU is forcing us to open the borders. I don't really care about that, since they leave this shithole to move to France, Germany or the cucked north.

>>131805835
Oh is this retard again.
Are you the nigger that said that he feel oppresed in Norway because some child got a bit more of money for working than you?

>>131806979
Do you have the "how to remove posts by retard posters" infographic?

>>131806834
>army of whites following order to exterminate other whites
>africans comprehending how high end military tech works
>africans maintaining their equipment
they'll be a big danger right in the beginning, and then drop off within a month when everything breaks down and/or gets stripped for scrap

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>>131807043
Have a rare pepe.

>>131806979
have you ever gone by the name "Barbarian"? I'm just curious to if there's more of you, or if you're the same american I've discussed this with before

>>131807087
There's more of us, I rarely post in these kind of threads.

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>>131806480
https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Kaspar_Th%C3%BCrriegel

I love that my taxes are being put into teaching you history for you to ignore classes my dude

>>131807163
So you are another nigger, gee.

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I feel so depressed, my family was documented to have been in Spain since the 1600s and we blended right in with the others and we ended up getting this.

Give up guys, it's hopeless.

>>131806835
I've heard the theory that they will make a compliant and dumb servile class. But I think the elite don't realize how true that is. They won't be able to maintain modern society. Uncorrected it'll return to neo-feudal dystopia with a slow technological decline.

>>131806979
I really would like for the study of western cannon to reemerge, in a rebirth of the idea of a gentleman of sorts. Mens sana in corpore sano, that is. I think that, for as long as centuries of culture and history remain reviled and ignored, there cannot be a shift in politics.

Exercise, study science, arts and history, and elevate their status. Today's music and literature are as decadent as our societies.

>>131807111
checked

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>>131804720
Hm?
I am spen

>>131807391
>Mens sana in corpore sano
You are absolutely correct. I have begun to push my body in exercise, study the classics, study the great men of older times. There are many who are starting to awaken to this truth. It is so easy to look at the current state of our culture and society and feel hopeless, but we have a tremendous wealth in our past to draw from.

>>131807365
No, they're not going to do that. They don't bank on them working at all. They're pretty much locked out of the labour market on purpose.

What does happen though is that they will need housing, and since they're refugees, they don't have any money so the government steps in and gets them houses. This drives prices up, but the politicians just raise taxes instead.

So now you have a massive class of people locked into neighbourhoods where there are no jobs, with no prospects of education, any jobs, or any anything outside of gibs.

IOW, you have a bunch of screaming monkeys you can unleash on your opponents. You also have an easy to control voter bloc. It's genius, except for the fact that it's clearly unsustainable. But at that point, you've already sold all your properties and moved to Israel.

And by your properties, I mean properties owned by someone else that you're only tangentially related to, don't think that we're doing this to enrich ourselves on the Swedish taxpayer's behalf goy...

They don't need more workers in Sweden, since their young are leaving Sweden in record numbers to get jobs elsewhere. :^)

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>>131807229
You are not going to sleep without learining something new they say.

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Pic related.

Moral of the story: Spaniards are literal Arabs who should've been shoahed

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>>131807608
spen here too

>>131808513
She has a feminine penis

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¡Viva Andalucía Libre!

>>131808596
Shut up, Ahmed, your Al-Andalus.

>>131807941
Fuck. I can see the twisted logic in it. I bet they think they can contain the beast.

It is truly sad that decisions made out of misguided kindness will inevitably lead to much greater suffering.

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>>131802289
If you think about it the number of whites is small yes, but we have never been so united under one blanket term of being "European". The type of people known simply as 'white' never used to exist. It was Scots, vs Irish, Vs English. Each small tribe constantly fighting for power with each other.

For context even here in Canada in the 80's there was a huge tension between protestants and roman Catholics, both felt like their own tribe was under attack from the other. If your daughter was to marry a catholic then you would be furious the same as if your daughter came home with a nigger today.

White men have never been united as one people, we have always felt as if our neighbor was about to take us over and infringe on our way of life. Such is the way of Europe and is why these tiny countries have such vastly different cultures.

But now. In this global period of time as we all face the same struggle, and the same global enemy, and we all feel the same threat of extinction, for the first time ever White European Giants can stand together and temporarily put down our differences like never before, to conquer a common foe. This could be what it takes for us to finally develop our final form. Imagine how powerful an army could be with the will and passion of the ever infighting German, French, and English can bond together to take our final form.

We may be pushed to our limits, but that is our nature. We are kind and patient to a point until we unleash hell this world has never witnessed. Nothing has ever been able to stop the might of the European Giant, even when we fought under separate flags, and for the first time ever we will show these demons what the power of the white man really feels like.

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>>131807608
No, fuck off mongrel and don't start to post and reply to yourself with things not even God understands.

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>>131808855
Obviously I trace nt ancestry to north aftica.

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>>131802289
>eu4 fags
Spain never colonized. They still might not even have the ideas. Instead they focused on pushing the Reconquista onto the African continent. They've turned northwest Africa Catholic lol

>>131804720
>All men got killed from south to north, all of spain, but a tiny corner of northeastern spain

Except this didn't happen

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>>131809102
And there we go. 100 posts by this ID in 10 minutes I predict.

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>>131809102
Spaniards are brown moors!

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>>131809483
>why spaniards so racist to moors loool u da the same
>t. White supewmacist mohammad neonazi

>>131807337
jesus fuck that's impressive if you guys have been there for so long and only a drip of european blood

>>131809413
Educate yourself, history is violent. It's not daisies and rainbows.

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>>131809483
Are you that Cuban faggot who is always insecure about his castizo self?

>>131804720
you haven't read much into the conquest of spain i see

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>>131809794
Why spaniards dont accept union with moors against whitey looool u arab shitskin!!

>>131809153
>Spain never colonized.
south america?

??

is this a joke?

What the shills will never tell you is that The Reconquista was not supposed to happen.

You'll understand better their pale bellicism.

>>131810032
Neither have you, with your fantasyland version of the bloody history that spain is. Every single battle was lost to the arab armies.

>>131810092
>>131809794
>>131809483
>I-I think this one is retarded. At least he posts nice pictures.

I don't think you're a moor, Juan.

Is >>131810473 a proud Muslim? A (((Norwegian)))? Did Pedro cuck him? Place your bets!

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A rare pepe for this thread.

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>>131810844
Hes a muslim nigger angry spaniards view him as nigger garbage.

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>Decide to take a walk when it's a beautiful day outside
>See a moor
>See a gyppo
>See faggots kissing because it's faggot month
>Day ruined

>>131810354
England's. I'm about 80% done diplo-annexing my vassal france. I let england have SA in hopes of just having a fun game of spheres but nooooo they're fucking my shit up. France is like 51% liberty desire so i can't finish the job :( I'm gonna spend the last century mass-colonizing indonesia. I wanted to take some chinese land but I don't think I'll get to :( also sweden has a brazil colony lol. Central africa was a fucking pain, I shouldnt never have went further in than the coast. I like to always tax my colonies because independence wars are fun.

>>131810354
also spain kicked portugal out of europe and I finished them off in the caribean before they could colonize and live.

>>131802289
>The Reconquista (Spanish and Portuguese for the "reconquest")
Why do people do this
Do they think we're just fucking dumb or what

>>131811730
You are in the wrong board. -5 prestige, -1 stability.

>>131809153
Did Brittany unironically fuck France up?

>>131812670
I honestly tried to not eat France as Champagne. I thought they could be the catholic french and I the protestant. We could've both colonized, it would've been fun. But they were a pain all game so fuck them I'm about to absorb them.

>>131812670
looks like he's playing as Brittany. Kek.

Ignore the stupid obvious shills.
What the Reconquista teach us it's to not give up, that no matter how difficult our position seems we can win.
And the winds of history are blowing in our direction.

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> 0,6% of muslim Population in Portugal
> Vast Majority of Population is still Catholic in both Countries
> Proven Top Kebab Removers

Yet some cucked Snowniggers whose country is currently overrun by shitskins still come to these threads and say iberians aren't white or inferior. fucking kys, faggots.

SANTIAGO!

>>131812670
The answer is too scary for you Paco.

Portubros, any suggestion on what to do,where to go in Porto? I'm staying today and tomorrow.
(Spanish)

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>>131811678
If shit goes wrong, fall back to Asturias, hermano.

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>>131812862

One proud "country" against a whole empire. We were slow because a reconquest is not only to kill people but build villages, communities, castle's and all of that. We also sent people to Crusades, so stfu mudslims shills. We have done more than others against that scum guys.

>>131812862
El proceso de reconquista duro 770 años?
No entendi bien :/

>>131813906
Spain was occupied in a decade, all the Goth kingdoms fell extremely fast. Then the battle of Poitiers happened and the Muslims were pushed back and couldn't unite to finish the job. Spain remained at least Al-Andalus for almost 800 years, but Reconquista lasted like 300 years. It also had much more to do with inter-emirate fighting, once Cordoba caliphate collapsed it was a slow death spiral.

>>131814344
you or anyone know any god-tier books on this history? My history reads list so far includes stuff like History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire and History of the Franks, anything similar for the iberian peninsula's history?

>>131814344
O sea que los musulmanes no vivieron felices y contentos durante 800 años en España?
Tubieron hijos entre musulmanes y españoles catolicos?
Ese proceso fue una guerra continua?

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>>131814344
Goth kingdoms fell mostly due to Gothic society being separated by castes - only pure Goths were allowed to rule and have weapons, (warrior caste that is), meanwhile the rest of the native population were deprived to that same right. Infighting and civil war was also ravaging Gothic Iberia by the time of the invasion, and after King Rodrigo's death at Guadalete Battle it all fell pretty fast afterwards...
Once power was begun to be bestowed upon the native iberian people by ruling Goths, then they got enough support and manpower to successfully push Kebabs out of Northern Peninsula for good. couple of centuries later and all what was left to conquer was Granada Kingdom. Despite the infighting inside the Caliphate by then, they also managed to unite and even send reinforcing armies from Morocco (see battle of Navas de Tolosa and Salado) to invade the Christian Kingdoms once more...

>>131814344
Ignore him. He is being retarded on purpose.

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>>131813906
The last standing point of Muslim rule was just a vassal to the Crown of Castille. Moors in Iberia brought gold to Castille to leave them unharmed, It finalized in 1492.

Portuguese were already conquering settlements and fortresses in the Moroccan coast since 1415.

Reconquista started since the Battle of Covadonga (718) or 711- Conquest of Almost the majority of former Hispania.

Don't listen to MExican intellectual.

>>131815226
The Almohads took Al-Andaluz and began a process of forced covnertion : convert to Islam or die - a lot of Christians and Jews escaped to the Northern Kingdoms.

>>131814827
Reconquest and Crusade in Medieval Spain - Joseph O'Callaghan

The Rise and Fall of the Party-Kings - David ((Wasserstein))

The Reconquest of Spain - Derek Lomax

>>131815226
Of course not. There ws a pretty big conflict when Cordoba declared itself independent from the Damascus caliphate, and then it all came crashing down, with it splinting into many small taifas or kingdoms that constantly bickered and fought among themselves far more than they fought the Christians. Intermixing existed, but was looked down by both sides, you could get stoned to death for fucking a Muslim woman and viceversa. The Muslims were by no means a uniform or even united force and they faced even new interventions from Africa and movements like the Almohads who were batshit crazy. There were still a lot of white Europeans living under Muslim rule (although they were definetely a minority), but they converted and even changed their names. Centuries later, when the Christians came back, those converts took back their original names and became pretty zealous themselves, mostly to dispel doubts about their loyalty.

>>131815371
You're also forgetting the Muslims played small kingdoms against each other and even among the northern remnant, they had literal vassals. Still, the same tactic was used by the Christian kingdoms in their turn, all the way to Fernando. Also, the kind of social reorganizing that was required to undertake the Reconquista wasn't a simple as arming everyone or shouting le deus vult, it's a subject worthy of study in itself. I recommend a book called A Society Organized for War to get a better grasp on it.

>>131816660
Thanks historian friend

>>131815969
>noted

>>131807337

Oh it's this Chicano faggot again.

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>>131803697
>Le muslism blood meme

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>>131802289
1492 was a magical year

>>131819978
Haplogroups mean almost nothing bro. small part of dna You can be e3b or j1 and be 100% european autossomaly. Spaniards and portuguese are far away of arabs or moors
in dna proximities. Almost no relation.

>>131813474
Serralves, Palacio da Bolsa, avenida dos aliados, sé catedral do porto, ribeira (near Douro river),

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So when are we bringing back Al-Andalus?

>>131823252
If you wanna see Spain and Portugal and probably all Europe turn far right nationalist and we lose all our compasson, just make a move, that would be the end of your 'country' moham....

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>>131824280
The first persons to reply when I post al-andalus bait are always Portuguese. Wonder why.

>that would be the end of your 'country' moham....
>implying Portugal can do shit against Morocco militarily speaking
I'm less confident bout Spain tho
Though relations between Morocco and both Iberian countries have never been closer due to the massive refugee wave Morocco is blocking to those two countries

>>131824533
>Wonder why.
because you know with us the story was different.
it was even pathetic for you. We h ended the reconquista 200 earlier than our brothers, then we help them, and then we conquer half of the world and kicked you allah ass everywhere, it was ridiculous.

The moor.has no clue-

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>>131825209
>it was even pathetic for you.
Rather than it being "pathetic" for us, how do you justify being under Islamic moorish control from 711 to 1249?

Spain has still been islamic longer than it has been a united nation-state under the Habsburgs.

>and kicked you allah ass everywhere, it was ridiculous.
define "everywhere"

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>>131802289

If the HRE was not in a conflict with the Church, then the First Crusade would've been twice the size, and all of the Middle East would've been conquered.

The Peoples Crusade that preceded the 1st Crusade was largely comprised of Germans who spontaneously crusaded without the authority of their monarch Henry, the Crusade was called by Pope Urban, but the Germans sponsored an Anti-Pope named Clement III

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antipope_Clement_III

The Investiture Crisis is one of the most overlooked events in history which led to the the failure to destroy Islam and Turkish power in the Middle East. If the HRE was not in conflict with the Church, then Islam would've been destroyed and the Mongol Hordes would not have attacked the Middle East.

>>131817196
Thank you for the contribution. Found what appears to be a free copy here: https://www.scribd.com/document/159832480/A-SOCIETY-ORGANIZED-for-WAR-1000-1284-The-Iberian-Municipal-Militias-in-the-Central-Middle-James-F-Powers

Out of curiosity, how is the current demographic crisis facing Europe seen in Mexico? Is it something on people's minds?

>>131823252
Go home Moor. You leave us alone and we leave you alone this time. Deal?

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>>131823252
Just kill all those niggers and you may have some sand from Alicante.

>>131825561
>how do you justify being under Islamic moorish control from 711 to 1249?

lmao.
A big part of northern iberia was not in islamic control not even 60 years. Like some areas in northern Portugal. And of course Portugal has a state didnt existed when iberia was invaded. How do i justify? islam is an imperialist religion, the visigoths were in war or with suebi or between themselfs (civil war) and many of them were traitors, you also got jeews help. But your ass was kicked when iberians started fighting and then we ve cnqured an controled part of your country for centuries just for the lulz.

>define "everywhere"

Portugal rarely lost a battle against muslims in the past 500 years (probably 1 or 2), We beat turks,egypcians, all types of indid muslims, in asia, arabia, mapatan battle and so on,etc.. and i said you, not morrocans, cause you were nothing in world history,but muslims.

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>>131803697
Spain rekt muslims and went to colonize whole world. Most muslims later were just native converts. Arabs invaded with around 20 thousand people and it is estimated Iberia then had population of 3-4 million. So it was just elete who ruled and imposed few arab thingies, genetically they had no influence and later on it was native convert to islam that were ''moors''. Also many times arabs were expelled and areas re populated with northern Spaniards during recoqnuesta and Inquesitions .

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>>131825561
How do you justify losing it all and getting your heads cut off?

>>131807337
Quit larping

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>>131802289
Crusaders help Portuguese re take Lisbon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY2KzjVNoKY

>>131825722
The French Kingdom and The Mongols almost made an alliance against the mahometans.

Pre-islamic paganism is interesting to understand the full spectrum.

>>131808443
Makes sense. Spain fought in wermacht. Also Hitler called them the toughest latins. It's a shame, skinheads are not Nazis, they just like larping but not following the actual ideals.

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>>131825722
Ye if Barbarossa didn't drown while leading so much man it could have been done also
If 4th Crusade instead of sacking Byzantine got into middle east

Guys check out medieval 2 total war: Crusades campaign

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>>131826978
>and i said you, not morrocans, cause you were nothing in world history,but muslims.
Seeing all muslims as one single nation is extremely wrong, given we were never under ottoman control or any caliphate's control after the umayyad, senpai.

>A big part of northern iberia was not in islamic control not even 60 years.
Yeah, but the majority stayed in control for a very long time, so eh. Argument is very shaky at best.

>>131827065
Succession wars n shieeeet

>>131826480
>Go home Moor. You leave us alone and we leave you alone this time. Deal?
No, because until you faggots man up and stop actively taking refugees in all of Europe, we get flooded by fucking nigger subsaharians trying to cross the detroit into Spain.

>>131827764
>Seeing all muslims as one single nation is extremely wrong,
>lives in a country which official and most used language is Arabic
hahahahehe

>>131825209
Technically, it ended in 1230. Officially in 1492.

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>>131827763
Only King to be a Saint.

>>131827051
>Arabs invaded with around 20 thousand people and it is estimated Iberia then had population of 3-4 million. So it was just elete who ruled and imposed few arab thingies, genetically they had no influence and later on it was native convert to islam that were ''moors''.
Why are you even speaking in terms of "arabs"? There were very few arabs in Al-Andalus during that time, 80% of the population was berber muslims with the 20% remaining being either christians or a really tiny minority of Arabs.

>later on it was native convert to islam that were ''moors''.
There were few native converts, just like there were few actual moors/berbers who converted to christianity when the christian kings imposed it (they were crypto-muslims) and all of them left when the Spaniards kicked them out definitely in the 17th century, so I'd say there are very few people with moor blood left in Spain today.

>>131828004
You do know arabs =/= muslims, right? Turks had turkish as their official language but are the go-to example in REMOVE KEBAB crusaderetard memes.
Also, arabic is only used for official paperwork (and it can be done in French too). Most common languages are darija (local Arabic dialect uncomprehensible by "regular" Arabic speakers) and berber.

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>>131828059
You faggots should have stopped bullying the Emirate of Granada, they dindu nuffin.

>>131827764
Most niggers go from Lybia to Italy though.

I guess that fence isn't enough. Time to build a wall.

>>131828383
>I guess that fence isn't enough. Time to build a wall.
We're the ones building it on our side because you won't, you know.
Even if there aren't that many who manage to cross, there's still tens of thousands who try.

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>>131828366
Granada was made for BULLYING!

>>131828263
Ye i just wrote it quickly not paying much attention i m tired atm

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>>131828446
Damn Rajoy doesn't understand the concept of borders.

>>131828263
>Most common languages are darija (local Arabic dialect
Argument very shaky at best.
You're Arabs and all arabs are muslim too. Sure, all muslims are not Arab, but seeing you as just arabs who are muslim isn't very off the mark.

Now this is the part where you try to convice everyone you are Berbers n sheit and "expelled all arabs" despite the fact that the most spoken language in Morocco is Arabic and the religion is Arabic too.

>>131828757
>all arabs are muslim too
Lebanon would like to have a word with you

>Now this is the part where you try to convice everyone you are Berbers n sheit and "expelled all arabs"
Given there were at the highest tens of thousand of Arabs in a country with millions of berbers before they were expelled, are you seriously going to argue Morocco is ethnically Arab? Because I'd have a much better argument to say Iberia is moor if you did so.

>>131808513
>make america great again
>tranny
is this a joke?

Even further back, Carthage and Rome fought over the Iberian penninsula 2200 years ago or so. Reason why Barcelona is names as such, after Hamilcar Barca, so north africans (as moorish muslims or as carthaginians) have been coming to Spain for long periods of time . . .

>>131828959
Lebanon is mostly Muslim too.

I don't have to argue Moroccans are Arabs.
They speak Arabic.
Have an Arabic religion.
The language of natives is less used than Arabic.
If it looks like a duck.
If it quacks like a duck.
And if swims like a duck.
It's a duck.

And seeing Arabs claiming Berber identity and story is pretty pathetic.

>>131829473
>They speak Arabic.
>The language of natives is less used than Arabic.
Both objectively false, senpai.

>Lebanon is mostly Muslim too.
Last time a census was done, it was parity, and that was only inflated with palestinian refugees, so...

>And seeing Arabs claiming Berber identity and story is pretty pathetic.
Ok you're literally retarded dude

>>131807941
Can you please give us some links or evidence of what you said ?

>>131829264
Carthage was a Phoenician colony, dumbass.

>>131829631
You're OK, Moor. I haven't realize the dindus were such a problem for you too.

>>131829631
Why do you have to lie?

Every source out there tells you that Arabic is more used in Morocco than Berber languages.

The simple fact that Arabic even is an official language just serves to show how cucked berbers were by Arabs.

But then people have to deal with Arabs we wuzzing all over Berber identity which is fucking retarded.

>>131804720
lol every statement in that post is demonstrably wrong.

>>131830407
>Every source out there tells you that Arabic is more used in Morocco than Berber languages.
Darija is literally not Arabic, dude. I'd say about 30% Arabic, 30% Berber, 20% French, 15% Spanish and the rest small parts of Turkish, English, and new words in general.
Besides, most sources put 60-80% of the population speaking Berber, so the assumption your argument relies on is false as well.

>The simple fact that Arabic even is an official language just serves to show how cucked berbers were by Arabs.
I mean, culturally we're Arabo-berber, that's for sure, but that doesn't mean ethnically we aren't berber.

The thing I'm fighting against the most is the notion Muslim countries are a single hivemind designed to aim at Christian countries and eliminate them, thus claiming any victory over a Muslim nation is a victory over Moroccans and berbers which you did earlier.

>But then people have to deal with Arabs we wuzzing all over Berber identity which is fucking retarded.
The worst thing is that you are probably the kind of faggot who complains about "meds aren't whites" threads, then does the same fucking thing when it fits your narratives.
I hate niggers like you.

these same reconquistas would go on to commit the 4th crusade

>>131829473
>And seeing Arabs claiming Berber identity and story is pretty pathetic.

Many berber would punch you in the face for this

>>131831444
>Darija is literally not Arabic
Darija is literally a dialect of Arabic.
And standard Arabic is also used.

>most sources put 60-80% of the population speaking Berber
And 90% speaking Arabic, therefore Arabic is spoken more than Berber languages are.

Why are you denying that Arabic plays a more important and prestigious role on Morocco than Berber languages? Why do you have to lie?

>ends it with a strawman
Have fun arguing against yourself. You clearly have problems facing reality.

>>131832539
>Darija is literally a dialect of Arabic.
Considered another language by many linguists, actually.

>And standard Arabic is also used.
Who the fuck lives in Morocco between the two of us? Standard Arabic is not spoken by anyone.

>Why are you denying that Arabic plays a more important and prestigious role on Morocco than Berber languages? Why do you have to lie?
They play about equal roles, actually, and I have never lied in what I said.

>You clearly have problems facing reality.
Says the guy who thinks Moroccans are ethnically Arabs.

>>131803697
>>131827764
Also lets take for example how part of Norht Africa was Vandal for 100 years
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandal_Kingdom
People there certanly don't look Germanic at all to me

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I'm spanish not Portubro, just visiting
>>131827764

but i agree with you in that it's more Europe's fault accepting niggers than you letting some slip through,the fact you kick them and fuck them over when they try their shit there is a redeeming fact,and i would praise you if it wasn't because there are plenty of subhuman glue sniffers who don't know who their own father is sons of whores coming from the poor areas of morocco and pesting us.
But then again the fault is on our government for letting them in so that all the lazy subhumans go to europe since the lazy starve in other places while we feed them and house them.
I hate most muslims with a passion because of why they are allowed to push their agenda in my own country and culture not because I can't understand why they do it since if I were in their position I'd do the same.
When we end up killing all muzzies or deporting them back we can go back to being good neighbours.

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>>131833332
>that pic
kek fucking banlieusards

>i would praise you if it wasn't because there are plenty of subhuman glue sniffers who don't know who their own father is sons of whores coming from the poor areas of morocco and pesting us.
We have an agreement with most European countries actually that you need at least 10k€ if you want to get a non-tourism visa, I'd say the majority of the Moroccans in Spain are either illegals or remnants from the time you used to import whole villages to your country in order to do cheap construction labour
At least be glad you don't have Belgian-Moroccans or Dutch-Moroccans, those are the fucking worst

>I hate most muslims with a passion because of why they are allowed to push their agenda in my own country and culture not because I can't understand why they do it since if I were in their position I'd do the same.
We just want to develop in peace senpai
I'm a strict immigration kind of guy, if someone who has a diploma already or wants to study in that country wants to emigrate then I think it's fine but if it's just random bumfuck #13049 who wants gibs and doesn't know how to do shit then fuck no

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>>131834337
Usually I get along with the older 40 or more moroccans than with the you fag entitled shitskins, i work with a moroccan that god bless him when i mention jews he spits and blames the jews for even the madrid bombing saying no muslims would ever do such thing (he is really kind)
The younger kids have a huge attitude but are mainly as faggy as any european,they have grown used to europeans being afraid because they speak with an accent and are brown,if faced they back down and have mostly never been in a real 1 on 1 fight.
I'll be happy to have you as neighbours because I don't think you're bad people per se but i don't like you in my country and i don't like islam in my country
(it hurts humanity's progress from my point of view as it rewards conformity and punishes outliners harshly by community and even by law)
But i respect you being as Islamic as you want in yours.