2018 US military budget to be extra 97 billion $ bigger

>>131797202
>>131797202
Americans are so fucking retarded Holy Jesus
Russia spends a fraction of what America spends and still is a respected military superpower, they took Crimea and nobody dared to do anything.
America has 19 trillion debt, 100 million people on welfare, decades old infrastructure, the most expensive healthcare in the world, an obesity crisis, the highest prison population in the world, they're trying to save everyone else when they can't even save themselves.

the us military is basically a welfare program

>>131797600
20 trillion $ by end of July.

>>131797202
Sounds like a huge waste of money if you don't have where to use f-35. Won't it come to that were they never going to use f35 because of risk losing it?

>>131797694
This. More military spending = more jobs.

>>131797202
>>131798053
Oh and that's more than enough money for the wall.

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Insane amount of tax dollars go to the military.

>>131797202
Hilarious considering one of your biggest states is about to go bankrupt.

>>131797202

is the US military the most evil organization to ever exist?

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>>131797202
(((( McCain ))))

>>131797202
I hate this nation so much. Cannot believe so many support this insanity.

Lethal assistance to Ukraine especially pisses me off. Trump is a complete Jew servant now. They are going to keep escalating the bullshit civil war in Ukraine in hopes to get Russia involved so they can finally get war with Russia. This is so disgusting and criminal.

>>131797600
>America has 19 trillion debt

Is there any danger of the debt ceiling ever shattering and burrying us all?

I have to admit that economics are a weak point for me. I just don't see how the US can on like this forever. The bubble has to pop sometime, right?

I miss Reagan's 600 ship Navy.

>>131797600
Yeah they could spent 25% as much and still be #1, very silly for them to have such a massive military and things like the f-35

i'd like to see r/the_donald trying to justify this kind of policy

>>131798137
>More military spending = more jobs.
There are better ways to run a welfare program that don't involve wasting manufacturing capacity and material resources. Imagine if we took all that money and brought a fiber to every home.
McCain needs to hang in international court like the Milosevic he is.

>>131797600
Russia mostly just sits on a big pile of nukes, and thats the only reason they dont have a government thats a complete puppet to the globalists. If the US messes with them or is dragged into war with them, they blow up half the world, and the US blows up the other half.
>>131798900
Yeah. At some point its going to have to be realized that (almost) every dollar in existence is just some debt owed to the Federal Reserve that the banks just printed outright or is some number they made up. All currency is worthless numbers, and when the debts cant be repaid, those numbers will disappear and everyone will be worth whatever material goods they posess.

>>131798900
as long as people hold things like homes and cars that have intrinsic value and we remain the sole military superpower it really doesn't matter.

>>131799716
>we remain the sole military superpower
You're just the sole military supernigger.
>inb4 the empire is a good goy dindu nuffin

>>131800091
who's going to come collect that debt you retard? It's not like I'm defending what's in the OP but saying we are the sole military power is a fact.

>>131798380
now go get the graph with the wrest of the spending on it dumb ass.....

>>131800301
>sole military power
They don't need to "come collect" anything. There are other ways to wage war. We need China more than they need us. They alone can embargo the US and dump their trillion dollars in Treasuries on muh free market to completely BTFO the petrodollar and really fuck the empire's shit up.

>>131798745
I dont support either Putin or globalists, but I think that if ukrainian military went on offensive and cleared Donbass it would be great.

>>131800301
The banks will probably try anything they can to take away people's material goods to try to pay off the debts. They'll succeed wherever people don't have guns, unless large parts of the army or something is willing to protect people from the collectors. They'll succeed everywhere if they can bribe politicians into declaring war on the people or certain areas they will deem to be in rebellion, and if they do, slavery will come back, but most people will be the slaves, working for nothing to pay off the debt (and long past that). If they can't do that, they will sic their PMCs on us.

In other words, there will be a literal war by the banks against the people.

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>>131797202
Posting in a shareblue thread

>>131800301
The USD shell game shrinks after each new military defeat with corresponding reduction of geopolitical influence.
You are down to 17% global GDP.

>>131798745
Then leave commie. I don't respect a lot of things the government does but I'd never say I hate my country

>>131801315
I listened to some analysis how if they supplied you with these it would make major difference.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FGM-148_Javelin

>>131801365
>The banks will probably try anything they can to take away people's material goods to try to pay off the debts
wat? Seriously? What use are a bunch of cell phones going to be to foreign creditors? The only thing foreign creditors would be interested in are land and homes.
All the more reason to know where the banksters are at all times.

>>131801824
we should have relied on drones, assasinations and controlling border so Russia cant supply humanitarian help. Many redpilled ukrainians know that government is not interested in ending the war

>>131797600
>they're trying to save everyone else when they can't even save themselves.

They are not saving anyone that buys influence and control that forces our economy to stay on top.

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>>131801178
>This meme again

meanwhile i can't get my torn meniscus repaired cause I dont have an extra 8000 dollars lying around.

>>131798380

>Discretionary spending
Is about 15% of the total budget. That is funding that can be changed from year to year. Meanwhile non-discretionary spending which makes up the majority of the actual budget has programs like medicare that cannot be reduced without an act of god in congress.

>>131802226
>that buys influence and control that forces our economy to stay on top.
how is it spending half of your entire budget on the military help your economy stay on top?
what makes America stay on top are big companies that creates jobs and goods
the military creates only more and more spending, you have to pay welfare niggers forever to just be there, they create nothing of value
you have a military this big just to protect jews
your country is struggling with a lot of problems and you think it's a great idea to spend even more money on useless war machines while your population struggles.
take that flag off, National Socialism is about the people.

>>131802743
>how is it spending half of your entire budget on the military help your economy stay on top?
>what makes America stay on top are big companies that creates jobs and goods
How old are you?

>>131802410
>meme
Do you not understand the degree to which corporate America uses China? It's even profitable to send chickens to China to be processed and sent back here. Even small consultancies use China to assemble hundred-lots of electronic devices under contract rather than do it here.

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>1.4B for defense of Europe

Fuck that. You dickless cunts are on tour own!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xix--ffW9xw

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>>131798380
>discretionary

checked

The cost of Medicare and Social Security dwarf the size of our military budget.

>>131803681
Estonian pays its 2%. It's only fair we rebuild Jägala for them.

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>>131797202
I said it before and I'll say it again. Republicans are the party of gibsmedats free stuff. How do they pay for all this?

>>131797202
Eurocucks caring about the US defense budget bugs the shit out of me.

This is good for the US, and doesn't effect your faggots in Euroistan.

> John McCain died peacefully at home
> early Friday after being knocked in the head by
> a foul ball while watching his beloved Arizona
> Diamondbacks play. His last wishes were that
>"President Comey destroys all human existence."
>In lieu of flowers, please beg for war with Syria

>>131804158
it does affect people in other countries actually, but in a good way. please spend more on defence.

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>>131797202
Any right wing retard or military industrial complex shill want to tell me how they're paying for all this?

>>131801365
that sounds possible honestly

>>131804221

>implying the money ever existed

>>131797202
>increasing spending with huge debt and rising interest rates
Good luck.

>>131804221
By issuing Treasuries on our behalf, naturally.

Appropriate

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=srX9lfpyhdU

We're going to have to spend 2x what we're spending now if we keep pissing off all of our allies.

>>131797202
Jews and saudis must be defended OP.

>>131804957
So $97B added to the deficit per year? That's how the GOP roll

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This vessel is on its way from picking up its latest load of youthful immigrants from Tripoli...

>the party of limited government

wew lad

>>131805326
It's bipartisan, my dude. For some (((reason))) we can't just print the money. We (((have to))) borrow it from rich cunts.

>>131797202

wow, t-t-thanks guys.

jesus fuck what a nation of spineless retards you really all are.

>>131805487
It's Republican

>>131797202
Currently wildfires ravaging Arizona, so he can rake in more (((emergency funding)))

>>131805589
Stpo projecting, spineless retards.
I will be very happy to see you jewkrainians forcibly brought back into the Russian borders.

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>>131805432
She's making her way up towards Italy right now, if you leave now you can welcome your new friends!

>>131801315
I just wish your nation would be left the fuck alone.

>>131798380
That does not account for all spending. Just discretionary.

>>131797600
The reason military spending is accepted is because it acts like a welfare system.

It keeps tons of people employed in the US while also coming up with technologies like GPS which can later be given out to the rest of the world.

>>131801798
Good goy. Always bleed for a government that wants you dead. All because of muh flag

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>>131801315
>

>>131804221
World reserve currency

>>131797600
You do realize that modern economy is driven by debt, right?
The world is in $200 trillion debt, which is why our world economy is alive right now. The cash is going around and around and around "in the system" so to say. Everyone that has read economics 101 knows that shit.

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>>131805432
https://www.marinetraffic.com

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>>131805816

arguing with a nigger on the internet

not even once

nice try leroy

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>>131797202
Post yfw most of this additional budget will go to SDF and other terrorist organizations trying to depose Assad and Trump will do nothing to stop it.

>>131801824

the last thing ukraine needs is to escalate this fucking shit show... which is why the retards in the us are now trying to do exactly that. kiev regime is a joke, supported entirely by the state dept

>>131806276
Do you even know what a "strong dollar" means?

>>131806276
>Monetary policy
>US political system

Pick one (1)

>>131806172
so really money is becoming a joke and 200 trillion worth of goods and/or services was just given free and everyone just said meh

>>131806947
yes

it means American strength

u retards want a weak dollar?

>>131799649
Fuck off, with that anti-Milosevic bullshit, jihadi faggot.

>>131801365
Almost every war since the 1500s has been a war of bankers against the people.

>>131806823
what would you know beach flag

>>131799649
America needs to redo basically everything to emerge into the future.

>>131804174
https://youtu.be/Rn_gPeG68as?t=355

mccain is clearly senile, yet still runs around in the us ((democratic)) system saying insane things.

>>131807146
>what is fiscal policy

>>131807356

go back to fucking emus spastic

>>131806823
It could get worse. Since Saakashvili now has your citizenship he could become pm/prez. Imagine that.

Or maybe Yulia will come back eventually.

>>131807666
u mean princess leia

>>131797202
Nice. 2.1%? I hope that goes to military working military federal jobs.

>>131805970
You've got a lot to learn retard

>>131807666

sakashvili has staryed his own political party. why not, the place couldnt get more absurd anyway. poor yulia, thrown to the dogs completely, once that georgian retard left odessa. the us treated her appallingly, whole thing was a total farce.

>>131797202
How much gibs to Turkey white cucks?

>>131805970
>Assad & Russia lover detected
GET
OUT

>>131807193
I have no opinion on Milosevic. I do believe McCain should go through the same process: rendition to the Internation Criminal Court followed by a fair trail followed by hanging, if he lives long enough, and I hope that all heroic measures would be used to keep him alive to experience that glorious final outcome, cost be damned.

>>131797600
us and china are the only ones trying to establish order in a world that is on the brink of chaos. Be thankful

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>>131808101
Now filtering troll fagflag

>>131798615
Basically the same thing as saying f the police. Retarded

>>131808410
>triggered & must maintain the safe space
kek no one will miss your input

>>131805970
There's a reason successful people say the pledge and sing the national anthem and fly American flags in their yard. Maybe work harder?

>>131808863
>There's a reason successful people say the pledge and sing the national anthem and fly American flags in their yard
Pharisaism.
>Maybe (((work harder)))
Nah.

>>131808239
Ok, with you on the McCain shit. That guy wants WWIII.

>>131797202
arizona is worse than canada for electing this trator in

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>>131797202
>15K more infantry
That's a fucking overstrength division, where are they all going? Is a new division going on the books?

>>131807442
>leaf posting

Do you not know the difference between monetary policy and fiscal policy? Do you not know which one controls the dollar?

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>>131806172
>Everyone that has read economics 101 knows that shit.
pseudo-intellectual detected. no Ahmed in reality that debt is owned by a very small percentage , the top 1%, many of very shadowy background
if they decided that they want to end the world tommorow they just have to act for the many that is owed to them

>>131809710
*ask for the money

>>131798745
Then gtfo bitchboy.

>>131809259
The parties have too much power to decide things in the US system. The whole US system is set up to encourage cognitive dissonance and devotion to muh leaders.

>>131809710
Then we make up some new money. They COULD be cut out of the deal very easily, if world muh leaders weren't basically their eager servants. We could cut both of them out of the deal, if we weren't basically their eager servants.

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>>131797202
>using RT for publicly available information
typical necktie

>>131798380
That graph has been debunked by even very liberal sources you retard

>>131797202
This is preparation for a very large war. No other way to explain it.

so you telling me that americans spend 24/7 complaining about the jews and israel on /pol/ but they're still forced to pay israel through their taxes? hahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahah what a bunch of cucks.

>>131809511
both do u fucking dumbass

>>131810697
Not only that, but most of it will go to expanding Israel>>131806802

>>131810060
there is a reson why there a a lot of global economic organizations like the World Trade Organization, the IMF, the FMI and many others. precisely so something like you said never happenes and the sheckels keep flowing from the peasents to the 1%-ters

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>>131810717
>leaf """""""""""""""economics"""""""""""""""""

An unelected bureaucracy controls both of our currencies. If you knew this, you wouldn't be on a Korean kimchi bottling forum talking about "right wing retards" and you would be actively supporting the nationalist cause against the banker manipulation of our sovereignty and our collective future.

>>131801315
Of course you do bitchboy, but that will never happen because you know yourself that your country will be destroyed if you try.

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>>131811222
>doesn't understand fiscal policy's affect on the USD

Do you know how badly you annihilated yourself? Why did the USD get stronger under Obama if the Fed rate was zero for so long?

Holy shit u just got btfo

>>131797600
America wants to destroy other countries more than anything that's why.

>>131798137
This isnt' 1840, jobs are an outdated concept since we have social welfare.

>>131797600
It's better to have money spent on guns than on helping the nigs and spics breed.

>>131797202
FUCK

They will do anything to keep Europe from amassing their own military force. We dont need this we need a healthcare system that works. WHY!

>>131797202
We Sparta and shit

>>131798137
We dont need jerbs. We need wealth. Investing into the miltary gives us no fucking return.

>>131811550
>Why did the USD get stronger under Obama if the Fed rate was zero for so long?

Because the financial sector, with the help of the fed had just crashed the economy through the housing market bubble, just before Obama assumed any executive power. They then went into recover mode to fight the rampant inflation and economic stagnation that plagues the US to this day. To imply that Obama "fixed" the dollar or that he had any say in the matter is laughable.

Here is a purple pill from a fellow libshit like yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf9cuEDHytQ

>>131812435
But who will get the wealth?

>>131811550
>>131812483
Even better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol3mEe8TH7w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDu0Pm4PcoM

>>131801178
>We need China more than they need us.
Not true in any sense whatsoever.
Other countries than China produce what they produce. Sure prices would go up but nothing the US population couldn't handle.
China would be well fucked mate.
Their economy would basically disintegrate.

Well, you are buying yourselves world domination, nothing wrong with that. If you want to pass this status to somebody else, that's another thing.

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>>131812724
>Because the financial sector, with the help of the fed had just crashed the economy through the housing market bubble, just before Obama assumed any executive power. They

This would weaken the dollar. Not strengthen. You are correct that Bush crashed the economy.

>. They then went into recover mode to fight the rampant inflation and economic stagnation

Lol Obama had the lowest inflation in decades and u don't know what economic stagnation is.

You have no fucking clue what you're talking about. You're trying to deny that fiscal policy affects the USD. When Trump explodes the budget DEFICIT, the USD will weaken. Just like under Bush. >>131806276

>>131812589
For this military deal? Contractors and the banksters, corporations anyone and everyone but the average citizen who builds their shit. A program that gives back to americans would be used at home. Fiber optics, high speed rails or an example of one we already have is our great highways. Whatever happened to america first? Let Europe deal with their shit while we can help ourselves for once.

>>131799683
>whatever material goods they posess
Or whatever material goods they can effectively assert possession of / defend.

>>131799683
>If the US messes with them or is dragged into war with them, they blow up half the world, and the US blows up the other half.

But isn't that the cheaper way to go?

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>>131813576
dumbass do you have a fucking checkbook? you know you can make a budget based on you fucking income and still end up in debt by putting shit on a credit card right? how you think we got to 20 trillion in debt you retarded fuck?

>>131797202
>1.4 billion $ more for defense of East Europe
>500 million $ of "lethal assistance" to Ukraine
>purchase of 94 F-35's, 24 more than Trump asked for
>15000 extra infantry and 1000 extra marines
>500 million $ extra to Israel's missile program
Just build the wall with that money.

>>131797202
American military holding the planet hostage, how lovely!

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>>131814224
>how you think we got to 20 trillion in debt

>>131813378
Fuck that noise.. There is no world domination as nations are tied to hip economically. We can cooperate with other military forces however if when and if a time comes.
>>131814070
Yup. You know what expanding military means? We are going to war. This is not about keeping us safe thats not the militarys job. They want to attack Iran and Syria and make us pay for middle east wars. AGAIN.

>>131801798
>defends a $600b federal jobs program and tells all detractors they are a commie
wtf I love 'Merikans now

>>131801798
>>131810030
Kike or good goy
Go die for Israel

>>131814240
Could build like 4 walls and some money left over, its ridiculous.

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>>131797600
this

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>>131814641
the wall is already built

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>>131797600
holy shit gop btfo

>>131801315
join ATO then faggot.

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>>131797202
>Trump is going to bomb the shit out of Iran and North Korea next year
This is going to be great.

>>131814341
i see obummers retarded bill for 800 billion that did fuck all for the economy isnt in there nice try though. and the tax cuts did boost the economy and his retarded spending bill did fuck all

>>131797863
Trump will get rid of all US debt before the end of his second term. Nobody understands money better than Trump.

>>131813585
The U.S military is why the U.S is rich though, the U.S military steals resources from the Middle East and gives them to Americans.

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>>131805487
It's republican and you are a mong for assuming you could print your problems away.

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>>131815169
>i see obummers retarded bill for 800 billion that did fuck all for the economy

Literally saved the American economy from a 2nd Great Republican Depression.

You retards really are fucked up.

Also, Obama cut the budget deficit by 2/3 >>131813576

>>131813576
>This would weaken the dollar. Not strengthen
You think?... Are you deliberately pretending to be autistic right now?
>You are correct that Bush crashed the economy.
I like blaming Bush for things he actually did, but he didn't cause the housing bubble. The US housing bubble (propped up by libshit policies btw) caused the GFC. It was not a one-president kind of thing.
>Lol Obama had the lowest inflation in decades
He had literally no control over this. None. Don't get me wrong, I wish the president and congress and the courts had power of the Fed. I really wish they did. And though I don't agree with Obama, I doubt he really wanted to prop up our psychopathic financial sector with bail outs. I doubt he would have wanted ordinary people to suffer like they did. But the fact is that he had no control over US monetary policy, and monetary policy dictates these things.
>and u don't know what economic stagnation is
The recession was literally economic stagnation.
>You're trying to deny that fiscal policy affects the USD
No, I'm not. I was pointing out that the executive branch doesn't control the USD, which was your claim. Read a fucking book leaf.
>When Trump explodes the budget DEFICIT, the USD will weaken.
Idk what's going to happen, but we were going to have deficit spending unless some no-name republican or Jim Webb got elected. It will be interesting to see how it plays out, but I think the Fed is going to keep its shit together regarding the housing market, and there will likely be stability even if the dollar weakens. Trump says he prefers a strong dollar, he needs to gut a lot of spending though, especially """defense""".

>>131808095
great post.

>>131814880
the us is 10x the size of those countries and we have treaty obligations that we must protect fuckers like the EU that never pay shit into nato and japan that cant have more than 1%gdp so you again are a retard

>>131815169
>tax cuts boost the economy
>spending does fuck all
Explain, they are two sides of the same Keynesian coin.

Yay, fuck off world.

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>>131815276
>declares bankruptcy

>>131797202
we're essentially doubling Ukraine's GDP with weapons???

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>>131815398
Yeah let's ignore the $6 trillion u retards spent in the Bush GOP Iraq War

inb4 drones strikes are somehow equivalent

>>131797202
shit i should join

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>>131815444
Trump turned 1 million dollars into 8+ billion. He runs one of the biggest business empires on Earth and he is the President Of The United States. America will be a utopia by 2024.

>>131814681
Frankly most americans are dickheads i know i live around them. Its hard to break the conditioning but america FUCK YA we are #1 is all they care about.
>>131815290
Rich=20 trillion in debt. Im not sure you realize we live in an interconnected world. America is just the military arm of their schemes.

>>131815398
>the US is 10x the size of China
This is what happens when you devote all your resources towards defence instead of education

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>>131815770
>being this delusional

>>131815735
>dying for jews for minimum wage

>>131815913
lol

>>131813185
>>131813185
>Other countries than China produce what they produce.
Keep telling yourself that, nigger. Capacity doesn't just jump out of Zeus' head when you wave a dollar at it. Rare earth minerals don't just magically form via radioactive decay because you wave gold at it.
>Sure prices would go up but nothing the US population couldn't handle.
You sound scared.
>China would be well fucked mate.
>Their economy would basically disintegrate.
They don't need an economy. They have land and food and they can build their own around that, if need be. It is telling that you believe the ownership class is indispensable. They're completely dispensable. In fact, they're better off dead so the people can nationalize their money.

>>131815326
>It's republican
Take off that proxy right now, Democrat. This particular bill may be, but Democrats represent Wall Street and deficit spending serves their interests, no matter which muh mortal enemy gets the defense spending rolling.

>>131797202
Thanks US taxpayers, this is how I get healthcare for free.

>>131815727
nice try retard that was under obummer trying to rebuild the sand monkey villages

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>>131797202
This is why I try to get him voted out every time he is up for election. I have no problem with defense, but it like every other agency needs a full forensic audit. Cut waste first, then talk about increased funding, but they are not willing toactually work.

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>>131816059
Wrong again bubba. Obama ended the Iraq War and brought the troops home.

You retards really in denial that the Bush GOP invaded and occupied Iraq with hundreds of thousands of troops at the cost of trillions aren't you

>>131814681
As a veteran, I'm proud to say that the federal government covers the cost of my healthcare. It's a bit "rationed" perhaps but I have no complaints. I've had two minor surgeries since I've been in and they both went quickly and smoothly. Our fitness program helps eliminate chronic/dietary health issues at the cost of a few bruises and broken bones once in a while. Overall I give it a B.

>>131815775
>America is just the military arm of their schemes
Even when I would get hope from Trump and nationalism rising here, I'd remember this and lose hope. How can this possibly be unfucked?

>>131815948
So few point this out.

>>131816259
wtf i love big gubmint socialized medicine universal healthcare now!

ty 4 your service

brb getting food

>>131816232
1.7 trillion is a far reach from the fuck 6 that chocolate Jesus spent you fucking tard

>>131815393
Trump wants a weak dollar, there is no other way to compete with the rest of the world in basic manufacturing. That's the whole idea.
Printing away problems.
Why do you think he is attacking the FED?
America is a banana republic full of numb mong like you.

>>131815735
>>131815948
Don't listen to this cowardly neckbeard. The Army has been pretty good to me. Go grunt if you want to be all you can be, go support if you want it cushy (I truly believe there are no unimportant jobs, but there are a lot of slackers) You can go from paid-hourlyslave to full benefits+pensionslave.

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>>131816643
I don't think you know what spending is.

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>>131815393
>Trump says he prefers a strong dollar

are you fucking retarded?

He wants a weak dollar to compete with Chinese manufacturing. He also said wages are too high. That's right. He's a full blown right wing retard. What an economic strategy. Compete with $1/hour Chinese wages

>>131816346
First off we need to educate people on whats really going on. The internet being free information oddly is taking its sweet time in doing this. After that we need to stop electing neo-conservative senators like McCain who pass legislation just like this.

>>131815989
>They don't need an economy. They have land and food and they can build their own around that, if need be
And they have identity. Something really essential that stupid goy westerners

>Democrats represent Wall Street and deficit spending serves their interests, no matter which muh mortal enemy gets the defense spending rolling
I would argue that the GOP hasn't changed enough to be considered not part of this scheme. This particular bill is only proof of that. Who can be best goy and etc.

brb>>131816552

>>131797202
I don't like it, but if that's the kind of horse trading that it takes to get the wall built, go for it.

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>>131815369
odd that revenue went up with the "cost" of them tax cuts?

>>131799716
>we remain the sole military superpower
this

silly yurocucks, I dare you to come collect some debt

go ahead try us

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>>131816804
Fake news.
Obama never had an agreed upon budget and so spent 20% more than what congress would have agreed upon.
The debt under Obama increased more than every president before him COMBINED.
That is SPENDING you idiot.

>>131816463
>ty 4 your service
you can say this with as much sarcasm as you want. especially anonymously online. but you better know that I could call into a conservative radio show and talk about being proud of the collectivist/socialist aspects of the Army and the first thing they'll they, THE FIRST THING THEY HAVE TO SAY, is ty 4 service.

I really never encounter people who insult the military as a 'welfare program' outside of anonymous forums. The reasons for this are pretty obvious.

Also good army leadership can take a redneck from alabama or a punk from the bronx and turn him into a lean mean machine, and you can't get that on the "civilian economy" - so keep selling each other fidget spinners and vapes, we need the taxes for the income of Real Men (tm)

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>>131817107
Revenues go down when you cut taxes on the rich you absolute fucking retard. No wonder you morons can't be trusted with money. This is why u blow up the budget deficit every time.

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>>131816804
yeah he was

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>>131817107
>>131817463

>>131817003
>I would argue that the GOP hasn't changed enough to be considered not part of this scheme. This particular bill is only proof of that. Who can be best goy and etc.
Definitely. While each party does have their primary poster-child constituency, I gotta hand this one to Chomsky: there really are only two wings of the one War Party.

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>>131817107
>>131817463
>>131817502
This is how you right wing retards pissed away the massive Clinton surplus. With your retarded ideology that tax cuts for the rich increase revenues. Fucking morons.

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Who cares they're literally paying with made up money, ie dollars they invent out of thin air.

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>>131817302
You just proved my point. You don't know what spending is.

Spending is the expenditures side of the budget. Obama had the slowest spending in 80 years >>131816804

He reduced the budget deficit by 2/3 >>131813576

>The debt under Obama increased more than every president before him COMBINED

Wrong. You're thinking of Reagan.

>That is SPENDING you idiot.


No. It isn't. Spending is expenditures.

>>131817107
Business cycle.
Also manipulated y-axis.

>>131817736
While paying muh Wall Street a 1% fee for the privilege.

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brb g2g be back soon

FUCK YEA!!!!!!

America will now have a backbone, cucks

>>131816804
Day of the rake when

>>131816938
>He wants a weak dollar to compete with Chinese manufacturing
Once he finds out that it won't help boost exports, he'll go back to his original position.

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>>131817107
Lol your fucking revenues side is not even inflation adjusted. That's the most absurd chart I've ever seen.

Also

2001 Bush tax cuts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Growth_and_Tax_Relief_Reconciliation_Act_of_2001

your entire cuck ideology of slashing taxes for the rich is a giant lie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St6ZNHKLiP0&feature=youtu.be&t=214

>>131817502
>>131817629
>>131817746
>>131817463

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>>131797600
Does Russia have:
>19 commissioned aircraft carriers and 15 more planned
>helicopters/ships shooting laser weapons
>railguns
>proven capability to shoot down ICBMs in outer space before warheads seperate
>over 800 military bases outside of their country
?

>>131818073
>unarchived MSNBC youtube
Use hooktube so they don't get views

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=St6ZNHKLiP0&feature=youtu.be&t=214

>>131797202
does this mean theyd be more lifely to sign my waiver to get back in,or does JGA1 re3f pretty much mean I dont ever have a shot in hell to get back in?

>>131817887
>muh imaginary friend will have a benis
Why aren't you sucking your car's tailpipe right now?
>inb4 you don't have a car

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>>131817961
>trusting a demented retard who can't learn to do the smart thing

>>131818073
>your entire cuck ideology of slashing taxes for the rich is a giant lie
I actually do agree with this much. The GOP is pretty disgusting on this front.

>>131817746

A

FUCKING

LEAF

>>131818154
I don't think he's demented desu. Just never had a fleshed out ideology of his own, despite his years of putting up the appearance of one. I don't at all consider him stupid.

It's his cabinet who I really have a problem with, although, I said the same thing about Obama.

>>131818107
No but they have MAD which is all you need.

>>131817887
>So glad my president has NUTS

The eternal boomer strikes again.

>>131818107
>Georgia, Kazakstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan

This map is 10 years old, bases in those countries don't exist anymore. And even then they were simple logistical centers and supply stations for your troops in Afghanistan. First thing after attacking Talibans Bush did was he called Vlad for a permission to use Russia & CetralAsia as land route for Afghanistan.

Central Asia remains 100% Russia's backyard.

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>>131818554
>all they have is the ability to do is threaten to use nukes
Exactly. Russia is North Korean tier militarily. Once the U.S. developes and effective counter measure to nukes Russia will cease to exist.

>>131819082
Yeah, either that or they'll just industrial espionage their own designs up and we're back to MAD.

>>131818891
There's a shit load of bases that should be on there that aren't also, but that's not the point. It's about the ability to project power around the other.

Putin can't even protect his Alliance with Syria who the U.S. and Isreal attack at will. The U.S. wouldn't bitch out if Russia bombed one of our allies repeatedly.

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>>131801315
agree

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>>131819082

>>131817629
I am so tired of hearing about the mythical surplus. You do know the the Republican Congress had to drag him kicking, and screaming to get that. Also the idea that you have surplus money when you are massively in debt is DC delusional thinking. All of that money they claimed was a surplus was over an extended period of time. The way DC and all of those experts see cuts, a less spending is pure fiction. What they mean by a cut is less money than they had intended to spend, but it is still more than the previous year. That people still fall for these shell games amazes me.

where are the space ships
i was told we were getting a space force

>>131801365
>under-rated post

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>>131797600
Yeah no shit. America is fucking trash except for the rights we have. Every state by itself would probably be a third world shithole. Only people keeping the nation alive is the rich
>drug epidemic
>nigger epidemic
>illegal epidemic
>corruption epidemic
>shit jobs epidemic
>shitty infrastructure epidemic
The list goes one, but thank God for the Constitution.

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>>131820458
Pic related seems like a good start and the SR-72 might be close enough.

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>>131797600
you are fucking stupid

>>131801365

Truthfully, we're like one generation of Congressmen away from the Jews being able to turn the military on the people.

>>131821498
Right wing nationalism is on the rise. If we all get on the same page we'd be a potent politically force. This scares the Jew

>>131806172
((((((((((((((((modern economy)))))))))))))))))))))

>>131821498
I give it 3-5 years tops.

>>131798615
That'd be the CIA.

>>131798137
More unproductive jobs that consume wealth rather than create wealth.

You can give one guy a job digging ditches, and give another guy a job filling them in again. However, this is a completely unproductive task, and would create no net value, and perhaps consume wealth if this task was subsidized by some autority, e.g the government.

This is the military in a nutshell. A completely unproductive entity that consumes crazy amounts of wealth created by the free market, used to blow shit up. If this wealth instead of being flushed in the toilet (more appropriately blown up, again) it could be used to create businesses, creating wealth, profit, as well as employment. Remember that capital is a scarce resource, and wealth is even scarcer. We need to create wealth, not consume it by creating unproductive government jobs.

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>Navy of at least 355 ships

Wtf why do you need so many? Give us some gibs pls we need more than 6 destroyers, our navy is going down the shitter.

>>131822093
This. put your wealth towards technologies that other countries will actually want to buy. This does not include missiles. The British aerospace industry is mainly just missiles and even though Brimstone missiles are pretty much the best, only the Saudis have the money for them. It wouldn't work for the states.

I get that the US need to prop up its currency with military power but it does not need to increase its spending with such a massive gap between its nearest rival. Who is anywhere close to fucking with the US on those terms?

>>131822370
China has an even larger navy and they are aggressively modernizing and expanding it.

>>131822370
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/29/russia-claims-hms-queen-elizabeth-large-convenient-target-warns/

I really don't think we need to spunk more money on the navy, it's not the 1800s

>>131816804

Obama leaf Identified.

>>131822935
China. And frankly why put money into technology advancements now? You will just get online technology espionage by China these days. Just let EU and china and maybe Japan/SK do their shits while we use this enormous navy to maintain dollars status. In order to doing so the US needs cutting edge weaponry that's for sure

>>131822093
There are too many threats in the world. This is because the average intelligence outside europe and the US is substantial. Europe is weak so the only adult in the room is the US.

Your tune will change when all that hardware saves you from the outcome of your hippy philosophy.

>>131797600
We even do debt better than you cuck

>>131826620
You are bordered by 2 countries that wouldn't dare attack you even in a parallel universe. You are surrounded by the atlantic ocean and the pacific ocean. Your country only needs defense, not offense. So there is no point in you spending as 5 times more on your military than the second largest spender.

But whatever, spend yourselves into oblivion if you want (with money that you don't even have). You're the ones who will suffer, not us sane countries.

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>>131815118
Trump is a neocon.

>>131826620
Europe is weak because we wont let them have a military. The USA wants to do everything our way and we are suffering because of it.

>>131827486
norway dropping harsh truths

>>131797202
They should cut the money to Ukraine.

>>131809259
most Rs i know here in AZ don't like him. I vote against him every election. Don't know how the fuck he keeps getting in

>>131797600
Suck it Russia come get some! Murica!

>>131797202
That's a whole lotta rampless carriers. Your great grandburgerlets will be paying for this shit long after it's been sold to ethiopia.

>>131797202
>Curtesy of our good friend McCain
When is this traitorous piece of shit going to die?

>>131824079
In order to create industries and jobs in the states. I mean technologies including renewable energy to ease the US dependence on oil. Healthcare technologies would be another idea. There's a lot of things you could invest in.