Well... Do you have an argument?

It tastes good?

>>131790285
Food is food.

>>131790285
>Arguing with baconphiles
Bold move PETA, let's see how this plays out.

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>>131790285
it's delicious

The animal is already dead, all you're doing by not eating bacon is wasting the meat of an animal that gave its life for human sustenance.

>>131790285
To spite PETA.

>>131790285
makes muslims mad

makes me appreciate life

Don't need one, I'll eat a live dolphin if I want to, fuck are you gonna do about it

>>131790285
To make you upset

>>131790375
Not an argument

>>131790545
Why does the animal have to die in the first place though? Humans don't need meat to survive.

>>131790665
God bless

Because raw pork can have all sorts of diseases.

>>131790285
>luring embarrassing bacon memers to post embarrassing shit
Well..,

Pax Dickinson already pointed out PETA's strategy. They might be one of the ultimate internet trolls because people keep giving their idiotic credences an audience. PETA needs to ignored so they can finally wilt away in the dust bin of history.

>>131790285
I like it. No other argument needed, leaf.

>>131790375
fpbp

>>131790683
yes we do, only reason veganism is a thing is because modern medicine gives them all these supplements that they couldnt avoid otherwise.

>>131790683
How do you know it didn't die of natural causes?

>>131790683
That's literally an argument.

>>131790683
>Humans don't need meat to survive.

How did your country go from seal clubbing badasses to such a colossal bunch of faggots?

my bacon separates me from Muslims the same way the skin of my dick separates me from jews

>>131790285
>what are incisors
Do our closest biological relatives, the chimpaniggers, eat meat? They do??
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>131790285
Because they can't stop me

>>131790285
it jibbles all the worst people

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>>131790665

Yet if someone abuses a dog or eats one white people rage.

>>131790683
Because humans are omnivorous and it's on our best interest to keep it that way, not to mention that a pig's or any other animal sentience can never be compared to a human, therefore all moral arguments are invalid.

Also, nys AskYorself.

>>131790285

Because man domesticated pig and its only purpose is being food?

>>131790967
We were primitives back then now we are evolving.

>>131790683
>Why does the animal have to die in the first place though?
why does it need to live?

>>131790884

I'm vegan and don't use any supplements except b12.

What do you propose we do with all the farm animals if we stop eating meat? No one will want to keep them as there would be no money in it and they have no chance of surviving in the wild?

>>131791142
Pics or it didnt happen

>>131790285

Because we are apex predators and pigs are our prey.

>>131790285
When properly cooked, bacon is nutritious food that just happens to be delicious.

The religious arguments against eating bacon are made by people with no connection to God.

it's hard to take seriously when you know 99.999% of PETA's demographic, supports the murder of actual human beings.

if you care more about pigs than humans, then you've got some soul searching to do

>>131790285
The Free Market fixed the bacon demand

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>>131791142

I draw the line down the tenderloin with my filet knife.

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>>131790285

Bacon tastes so damn good. I eat it all the time before I take my chain saw and use it on PETA faggots.

PETA proves that when you don't eat any meat that you become bat shit crazy.

>>131791310
Yet you use supplements. Supplements that weren't invented to serve as your regular diet. B-12 was invented to cure pernicious anemia, not to make you feel morally superior. Long terms effect of using it for lifetime are still unknown.

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>>131790285
>Do you have an argument?
It triggers faggots like you. That's good enough for me.

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>>131790285
it taste good

https://vimeo.com/222993301

>>131791158
>not to mention that a pig's or any other animal sentience can never be compared to a human

Pig sentience is more than a infants up to age 3. How can conservatives be anti abortion of a non sentient being yet be pro killing of a sentient being?

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animal-emotions/201506/pigs-are-intelligent-emotional-and-cognitively-complex%3Famp

>>131790285
>PETA promoting homosex
Ok then, eating bacon gives me sexual pleasure, who are you to shame me for it?

>>131791142
I would eat dog or cat and I am white.

Plenty of countries eat dog, cat, horse, etc...nobody cares. You are just an ethnocentric bigot.

>>131790621

lol.. KEK

If you don't eat bacon you are a jew or a muslim.

Bacon is DEUS VULT food

>>131791142
So what? I like dogs therefore I want them to be treated kindly

I dont give two shits about pigs or cows that dont give me any companionship or comfort

I don't go out of my way to eat it. Pork is usually too fatty to fit my macros.

>>131790285
it is nutrition to which I find enjoyment in consuming.

That is it.

If that isn't good enough then go back to drinking maple syrup and sucking dick.

I've been a vegetarian for 35 years but even I can't blame anyone for eating bacon. It smells so god damn delicious it's the only meat I miss.
Vegans on the other hand smell like an incontinent old springer spaniels blanket.

>>131790683
Why eat anything besides gruel you faggot?
Enjoying bacon is as good an argument as any.

>>131791636
Bullshit! Where in that study it compares the intelligence of a pig with a 3 y/o infant? Stop leafposting.

>>131790285

There is no law stopping me and if someone physically tries then I will kill them or they will kill me.

>>131791533
>it's hard to take seriously when you know 99.999% of PETA's demographic, supports the murder of actual human beings.

FETUSES ARE NOT HUMAN BEINGS

>>131790932
No it's not. Rape feels good does that mean it's moral and righteous to rape women?

Bacon is food. I eat food. I have the same argument for potatoes.

>>131790285
pigs are basically people, and what's wrong with eating people? (assuming they are organ donors)

My argument is my right to eat bacon.

>>131790285

because it is manly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJGd7G2wYuU

>>131792039
>FETUSES ARE NOT HUMAN BEINGS
neither are pigs

>>131790967
We still club seals, the fucker are eating all the fishes. The problem is that we have almost no buyer for the product of that hunt.

>>131790285
I agree. Even the concept of human rights is bigoted and racist. We need to be talking about organism rights. Why should any living creature be denied their right to existence?

>>131791142
Because dogs are not traditionally food as they actually provide companionship and love their owners, and can provide many other services such as being guide dogs, furthermore you barely get any meat from a dog and (I've heard) they don't taste good at all.
>if someone abuses a dog
I would also get angry if someone abused a cow or chicken
Also it's also about how it's killed, especially in China, eg. with a blunt shovel/boiled alive. Iw would at least be a bit better if they were killed humanely

>>131792039
yes that is an argument for rape being acceptable
do you know what constitutes an argument anon?

>>131790285

Just go "BECAUSE I AM A MUSLIM, BACON IS UNCLEAN DEATH TO INFIDELS".

If they don't retweet you, they're racist and Islamaphobic. If they do, congrats, now everyone knows PETA are even bigger wankstains.

My mom had a pet pig, would cry all night to let it into the house so it could sleep next to my moms bed. But the floor was for the house girls and this fucking pig shit all over the floor everywhere it went.

One day my mom came home from school to find her pig strung up in the garage bleeding into a cooler, her siblings teased her while eating it saying it was the best tasting pig ever(all it ate was avocados)

Yeah leaftard
Bacon tastes good
And also, it should be ok to eat cats and dogs IF they are farm raise like cows, chickens, pigs, etc.

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>>131790285
>leaf
>ID is JOUD/JEWED
Saged out of principle

>>131792039
>FETUSES ARE NOT HUMAN BEINGS
Right, they are hamsters.

How in the fuck did you pass third grade, you utter retard?

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>>131792332

that's fucked up.

>>131791249
If you want to reduce your biological footstep, kill yourself.

>>131790285
Wow a fucking leaf, ofc

>>131790884
Even then, they outright say those vitamins are not to be used in place of the actual vitamins. Synthetic shit is poison to our bodies, you can't replace it and expect the same effect

>>131792176
Damn, nice

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>>131790285
It's a great food for a ketogenic diet.

>>131790285
I don't have to defend the eating of meat. In fact my gf had a friend who went vegan and my gf stopped being friends with her because she got so weird about it xD.

sage.

>>131790285
If we didn't eat pigs, something else would.

>>131790683
>Humans don't need meet to survive
Yeah we do
At least I do
If I was forced to not eat meat Id kill my self

>>131790285
>no u

>>131790285
Livestock are actually in a symbiotic relationship with humans. Us eating pigs is no different from a sloth eating the shit that grows on his fur

I barely care about humans I don't know getting killed why should I care about a pig I don't know getting killed?

>>131791310
>I dont use any supplements other than the supplements I use

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>>131792029
Don't worry anon. The market forces will make sure none of you eat meat in thirty years.

With overpopulation demand will increase, supply will stay the same, and meat cucks are going to be forced to pay $40 per lb of beef.

>>131792649
Keto works if you want to lose weight for a single day event like a wedding or something. Then you drink one beer and instantly replace all the glycogen in your body along with all the water it has to be disolved in.

You looked good for the meet and greet though.

>>131790683
How is that not an argument jewdew. I eat bacon cause it's delicious. Why shouldn't I?

>>131790285
Pigs cannot grasp human concepts like morality, ethics and freedom (like Germans) so their killing is not immoral. The consumption of bacon is nutritious and tasty.

>>131792039
It is moral and righteous to rape the women of your enemies. It feels good and it serves a purpose.

>>131792855
Africans and retarded libs will be eating bugs keeping the price of real meat down.

>>131791142
dogs evolved alongside us and should be kept as companions/tools
that being said, I would totally eat a coyote or a wild dog if times were really desperate. never my dog though

>>131790285
1. It's good for your lungs.
2. Domesticated species can't go extinct, so you're doing pigs a favor.
3. Pisses of the mudslimes and (((PETA))).

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>>131790285
that id j0uDewXP
>juDe
>XP

>>131792039
>human fetus
>not human
I don't follow

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>>131790665

>>131792332
Why did you have a mexican living in your house?

>>131792855
>implying that plants and vegetables can grow anywhere, in any soil, in any country, in any climate.

Yep, you're retarded. At least the moral consistency argument makes some sense to some weak willed people.

Um have you ever HAD bacon, sweedie?

>>131792481
Cells are human.

How can it be human if it can't exist outside the womb by itself?

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>>131790285
Because that's a fucking animal, you got to be pragmatic about some things. It's an easy to obtain and rich source of nutritients/calories/proteins/w/e. Give me a single fucking reason why I should respect animal's life more than/equally as human's life.

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>>131790285
you gotta admit this makes you think. they say fresh water will be more valuable than oil in the next couple of decades

>>131792482
Ever since she told me I've been wondering what that pig tasted like

>>131792962
pigs are more intelligent than most other mammals by a large margin and are one of the most intelligent animals on the planet.

I eat bacon, but i really do like Pigs a lot and it is a double standard that i will eat them but refuse to eat dog

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>>131790285
CAUSE I WILL FUCKING KILL YOU FOR THOR

Thats why I eat bacon.


https://youtu.be/IAr7_aE-ReY

>>131790683

Doesn't matter why the animal is dead at the point you see a package of bacon in the freezer at the grocery store.

Fact is someone else killed it, processed it, and is now selling their remains for human consumption. Whether you protest or not, the animal is already dead. Chances are, whatever killed that animal will kill another, and another, and another.

It's nice to be an idealist, it's nice to try and reduce your 'footprint' as much as possible by pretending not to hurt anything to survive, but no matter what you eat something died to create it. No matter what you do, your actions will step on someone elses toes.

>>131790285
Because I am a fucking grown adult and I can make my own goddamn decisions.

>>131791553
You deserve a (you)

>>131792839
Everyone who lifts uses supplements idiot.

>>131793243
So when you make 1 liter of bottled water, 4 liters vanish off the face of the earth? Interesting!

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>>131790285
>Unironically "Debate me kid :^)"

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>>131791142
I could eat rabbit any day

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Why is "because I like it" not enough argument?
Liking something for example life its objectivelly the best non spooky argument to keep living

>>131792962

Pigs are smarter than dogs. Why can't I eat dogs?

>>131792855
Meat production is the least affected by climate change though. Animals can eat almost any plant matter while things that are edibles for human need certain conditions to be grown optimally.

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>>131790285

PETA is also involved in Bestiality & Chimera's.

Archives: http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/

>>131793140
Fijian and Chinese

>trusting an uppity spic around the house

L
E
L

>>131791142
>many different breeds of dogs and cats
>in reality there should be two animals in the "pet" area.

It makes it seem like we are choosing a huge variety of animals to improve their argument.

>>131793203
Placing taste above an animals life is nigger-tier behaviour my man. It has nothing to do with equating them to humans.

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>>131790285

Bacon is delicious

The only reason why Mudslimes can't eat bacon is because they are reminded they are just like those filthy pigs.

White men tamed the pigs for delicious bacon that has no disease, and Mudslimes can't handle that.

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>>131793169
>cells are human
You're next level retarded. All red blood cells, regardless the creature, look the same. To have them does make you human

>>131790285

Because I am a member of the dominant species of this planet, and many of the lesser species make for good eating.

PETA doesn't ask why a lion kills a gazelle because that is the natural order.

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>>131793243
this infographic is dumb

>>131793336
Intelligence in dogs varies with the breed. Are you saying a pig is more intelligent than say, a border collie?

>inb4 Babe the movie

>>131793638
Does not make you human*

>>131793500
You can faggot.

>It is illegal to sell dog or cat meat in the United States but 44 states allow its personal consumption. Indian reservations are exempt from such restrictions. What this means is you can humanely kill and eat a dog or cat but you can't sell it at a restaurant or supermarket.

>>131790285
I prefer turkey bacon tbqh. Not a fan of pork these days

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Cause I don't have to act like a mudslime less I am a mudslime.

>>131793621
Not only did you mix up my argument but also haven't answered the question.

>>131792855
Notice that we can have all the meat we want if there are less nigger as per your pic?

>>131790285
It tastes good and it pisses off vegans, Muslims, and Jews.

>>131790285
Because freedom. Stay mad, faggots.

>>131793830
This

>>131793169
Fetus is not a type of organism

Fetus is a stage of development in the LIFE of an organism. A human fetus is a human in the fetal stage of development. Dumb faggot.

>hurr its not human its a toddler

>>131793436
Of course, the amount they have to eat otherwise would cause their stomachs to explode. My friend bb's, it's gross how much he eats; they eat numbers, not food

>>131793358
If Demand decreases then naturally prices fall. When prices fall producers produce less. By not buying bacon at the store you are decreasing the demand so in the long run less pigs will be killed.

>>131791142
>rabbit to the right of the horse

I don't think so, bugs. Get in the meat section.

>>131790375
Fpbp

>>131793910

So? Since when does another human being have a right to your body?

Suppose I really, really needed a kidney. Can I take one from you? I'm a human, man, I need your help.

>>131790285
We'd be eating cats and dogs if they tasted as good as pig, bacon specifically. It's not that we value cats and dogs over all other animals, which we mostly do, it's that they don't taste as good.

>>131794016
*left

>>131790285

Its delicious quick and easy to raise. Also there are a shit load of wild ones breeding. We should start a company that just cleans them out butchers them properly and ship people the meat.

Humans are higher in the food chain. There ya go.

>>131793950
Yeah but bacon tastes good
So fuck you

>>131790285
It's fucking delicious.

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>>131790285
>Present your best argument for killing 90% of the animals you "rescue"
Your move PETA

>>131793802
the bantz. fuck abbos

Pig feed is extremely cheap. They will turn old corn cobs and peels into nutritious protein to feed people. People are more important than animals. They are efficient, nurtious and delicious. What else is there? What else is there?

>>131793548

Our system runs almost exclusively off of corn. Which is now engineered to grow fuck thick and with only pesticide to maintain it.

>>131794059
Since you created it and it has no other options for survival it becomes your responsibility...it has rights to your body.

>>131794059
Since you decided to fuck, have somebody else's body's reproductive cell meet yours, that your body makes as a female, and willfully turns into a baby, that's how. It's natural to conceive, its unnatural to intentionally cut a developing life within the body short; Doing so always requires some form of operation or chemical, miscarriages are the only exception as that simply means the developing organism died/developed improperly to sustain life

>>131793950

It's nice that you think your naive principles from basic economics work in the real world but the truth is we don't live in a vacuum.

If a couple hundred thousand vegans stop eating meat, that's just a drop in the bucket compared to the 6.5 billion or so other people in the world who will.

Meanwhile while you're playing white knight on your moral high horse you're killing plants for salad, pesticides are being poured into the soil to kill the bugs that lower crop yields, and mammals such as gophers or rabbits are mercilessly slain if they interfere with the food production.

>>131790683
I bet your mouth is watering at the thought of nice fried bacon right now or when you see bacon commercials or smell someone barbecuing. This is an argument, humans are made to like meat.

>>131790285
Animals with hooves are gross.
Only reason we don't have pet lambs in our apartments right now is because they've got disgusting hooves.

>>131793451
I hope their kids get their little fingers bitten of by a rabbit and they should have their teeth kicked in by the horse and the cow

>>131790285
I don't eat that fat shit.
Chicken breast, lamb and beef and now we're talking. So much tasty protein and no fucking cabs. Pork legs are decent.

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I'm gonna make a bacon love thread just to trigger this fag

>>131790285

Everyone in the world giving up meat would reduce the population of animals buy over 27 billion and mean the extinction of hundreds of species.

>>131794314
There are men out there paying child support for children they are not allowed to see...How do those mothers/children have rights to his body? Forcing someone to work for you is having rights to their body.

>>131794848
It would also kill off some population that rely majoritaly on meat due to a lack of other options, like Inu or the Sami.

>>131794753

Migrate
>>131794896

>>131794896

>>131794896

>>131790285

My grandfathers pigs live a long and happy life prior to humane slaughter. He points out that pigs, and the vast majority of livestock, would be classed as vermin by crop farmers and would be only bred in very small numbers as show pieces which is as humane as their utopia would get for them.

>>131790683
Wrong!
>>131790375 is the best and only argument!

Nao fuck off my board!

>>131791636

Pigs aren't even self aware you stupid faggot. They don't even know that they exist.

>>131793203
Because it's a living being that doesn't want to be locked in a tiny cage it's whole life walking around in its own shit and piss then get slaughtered.

Eating factory farmed meat is objectively immoral.

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animals don't have souls and should be used as tools or eaten

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It's funny because he's a kike...

>>131794855
Seems unrelated to the topic at hand but I agree with you. Feminism isn't about equality. It is about disempowerment of straight white men.

>>131790285

It tastes good and provides your fat content for the day allowing you to eat perfectly healthy foods and still getting the fat that your body needs

>>131790285
It's delicious

>>131795137

I agree in principle, but not eating the meat just means the animal had no purpose for existing, in that case.

>>131793500
Are you being retarded on purpose? Are you really this fucking stupid? Okay, let me explain to you how things work you fucktarded leaf. Some animals can provide us more than just food. Dogs helped us hunt and still provide protection. This is why, at least in most of the west, eating dogs is frowned upon. Cats? Yeah, they hunt for pests. They don't merely provide their meat, but services that require interaction with a large part of the populace. Due to this interaction, emotional attachment arises. For other animals like hamsters, they are viewed as pets because turning them into food is not worth it, they are too small, too bony, etc. This is why we don't generally eat them but still keep them as pets in spite of them not providing any services; they can serve the purpose, albeit poorly, of an emotional relationship because they are too useless in any other regard. Our interactions with other animals are based on how we can use them. Why is this not evil somehow? The better question is why would you afford the protection of morality to creatures with no understanding of morality? Can they tell you about the evils of iolating private property? Can they tell you about the evils of murder? No, they can't. Actions they may take seemingly in accordance with morality are just due to their evolutionary psychology. Nothing more, nothing less. Why would morality apply to creatures with no understanding of morality?

>>131795137
We should have let them run wild where the would be ripped apart by wolves while still alive. You just can't see the Forrest for the trees can you?

>>131795462
but eating the meat is what supports that industry in the first place

>>131793169
>promptly dehumanizes all infants (especially preemies and c-section births), because they, too, cannot survive out of the womb by themselves.

I swear, vegans and baby killers are absolute fucking retards. These same shitty and CLEARLY NEVER THOUGHT THROUGH arguments, EVERY TIME. Rev up those gas chambers.

>>131794059
When the seed roots and birth control no longer kills it hence it becomes life. And we do have a thing called organ donors. Quit rationalizing killing life due to someones poor life choices. All life is sacred even meat from the animals we eat so respect it.

>>131795137
Unless we find a way to artificially grow meat, it's pargmatic and acceptable enough. It being a living organism is no argument to me, so are flies which we fucking smash with newspapers, cockroaches which roam our basements and all the other shit INCLUDING plants. I'm just not taking half measures andlying to myself about some things being more valuable than others.

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>>131794469
>Meanwhile while you're playing white knight on your moral high horse you're killing plants for salad, pesticides are being poured into the soil to kill the bugs that lower crop yields, and mammals such as gophers or rabbits are mercilessly slain

You know that a majority of plant agriculture is used for animal feed? Veganism is about reducing waste and suffering not removing it completely is impossible.

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>>131790683
>Not an argument

>>131792855
>I can get unlimited amount of energy out of veggies only :^)
>Oh me? Fuck no I'm not going to work on the fields to grow them, doing physical labour, I'll get tired after 2 hours of work.

Fucking libshits you always find a way to piss me off. Go and chase after the vitamin pills you dropped.

>>131795511
Or we could stop producing more animals and slowly phase diets away from meat as animal are eaten and there isn't millions of cows being produced everyday only to be tortured then consumed.

>>131796372
Not all agricultural goods are fit for human consumption.

>>131794059
>So? Since when does another human being have a right to your body?

Assuming you're genuinely interested in conversation and not just edgy trolling, I'll answer:

Since your actions directly resulted in his conception. Doesn't matter if you were taking precautions or not, just like when you involuntarily cause an accident you are still obligated to face the consequences. You don't get to finish off a victim just because safety systems in your car failed, either.

A more apt comparision: while driving you end up hitting a man who falls through your windshield and becomes unconscious. You don't have the moral right to just throw him out of your car.

>>131795226

I thought Jews don't eat meat.

>>131790285
You can literally cut this butterfly up and feed xer to the pig.
I'm sure the pig will eat without complaint.

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>>131791142

>>131790285
I'm not a muslim or a jew

>>131796990
You're thinking Jain, not that any Jain would have anything to do with your retarded ideology.

>>131795128
Pigs pass the mirror test which is the test for self awareness in animals.

>Pigs can use visual information seen in a mirror to find food, and show evidence of self-recognition when presented with their reflection.

Eat bacon

Shit on muslim whores.

Win

>>131796869
No sweety. If it tastes good eat it. The only reason we dont eat people is because it tastes funny and cannibalism rots your brain. Nature has its own methods dont act like you know better.

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>>131796869

Grain is what they use and grain is fit for human consumption.

>>131797183
The mirror test is use for awareness purposes, not to measure sentience. As a matter of fact, there is no way right now to measure sentience in a being. So unless you vegan turds invent a system that can withstand peer review, go fuck yourselves.

>>131795797

The problem is not eating the meat, it's the large quantities which we both consume and waste. Especially in America we eat so much and also waste so much of what we make (Go work at a fast food restaurant, where they routinely throw tons of food out every night)

The problem is that the demand is so high that supply has to rise to compensate. You think any of these businessmen WANT to give these animals shit lives?

It's also unrealistic to assume that demand will go away if we push vegetarianism. You're just replacing one 'supply' with another, it's no different from substituting nicotine patches or e-cigs for real ones.

>>131796372

Any vegetarianism or veganism inspired of some moral concern rather than a medical concern is simply naive idealism. It's like voting, everyone knows one vote doesn't matter but we all like to pretend it does because we want to feel special. Doesn't change that in the end the majority dictates the course of the vote.

>>131790285
Jews nor muslims eat it. ME is in constant conflict. Therefore bacon = peace.

>>131797052
Swap rabbits with horses, and move the line so rabbits fall in regular day and it's perfect.

>>131797417
What is hay and straw? Not all animal are fed grain. I bet you don't even know that not all corn varieties are fit for human consumption.

>>131790285
I'm a vegetarian and I just tell people I don't like the taste of meat so we don't need to get into it.

It's not even a moral thing. I feel like it's similar to running everyday, just something to do that is kind of a challenge that makes me focus on what I eat more.

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If you eat meat, you're literally Hitler

>>131798032
Kek, is funny because Hitler was vegetarian.

>>131796846
The deaths are done by firing a bolt to the brain stem with a pneumatic bolt gun. It is far less painful than any death any animal would experience in the wild. Is it cruel for a lion to eat a gazelle? Should all carnivores be put to death knowing that this would collapse the food chain and destroy ecosystems? Why do you feel like you can play God and rewrite what is perfectly natural? Without all of the fertilizers provided by sheep and cows, what artificial means would you choose to fertilize you vegetables? What if I want organic?

>>131790683
Humans don't need Canada to survive

>>131790285
Present an argument for NOT eating horse.

>>131797568
I'd eat horse if it were still allowed in this bicycle-commie hellhole.

I remember being young and eating a horse that we used to own. Then some fucking greens with sticks up their asses decided that your not allowed to eat animals that aren't bred and raised specifically to be consumed.

>>131798370
Oops. Forgot to change the flag.

>>131797052
this is the only real answer

>>131798453
I feel for you finn bro. Horse is great.

>>131790683
Do you like vegies? Are you aware the vegies were are also alive & when you cut them down and harvest them, you are killing them too?

YOU are a horrible vegie KILLER!

>>131797646
Horses are fed hay. They don't feed cows and chickens hay.

>>131791450
Sudden increase in the Tiger population?

>>131797486
Yeah but the guy I responded too said they are not self aware.

>>131798592
But I eat horses.

>>131790285
Because Hitler was a vegitarian, and animal rights advocate. Plus it ticks off Muslims which are the same as Nazis. I am not an Antifa either since they like the others I mentioned are also leftists. Last year I killed a nice 100lb boar, that bacon is the tastiest you will ever have. I am hoping for another this year.

>>131798195
Try tell that to religiously fanatic vegans. No bad person ever could have been a vegan or a true animal lover ever.

They've never seen a true Scotsman either.

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>>131790285
>Do you have an argument?

Best calories and protein for the price

>>131798283
Lions have no ability to empathize. Also they need to eat meat to survive. We can't bade our morality in lions, If we did we'd be living in a primitive shithole.

>>131791142
Because dogs are basically retarded wolves so it's like eating a disabled person

>>131790285
IT TASTES SO GOOD!!!

>>131790285
Stop this appeal to emotion bullshit and its not even logical. Pigs were bred not as pets but as livestock. Cats and dogs are domesticated for companionship. If you want a pet livestock animal fine, its possible but dont get all mad we eat them.

>>131798032
Ah, going for the 'I AM SILLY' angle I see.

>>131790285

1/2

>b-b-but it's unhealthy

Let's get this out of the way first: Yes, eating meat too often, especially red, is worse for you long term than a diet with very moderate or restricted levels of meat. This is worsened by many only willing to pay as little as possible for the meat which ensures that mass produced, hormone laden, low quality meat floods the market. However, meat is a very important aspect of human culture(s); the calorie dense fat and muscle allowed us to develop the powerhouse brains we have today. Meat also makes humans happy (esp. high quality meat), especially for those that particularly enjoy food and cooking. In the 21st century it is entirely possible to live on a vegan diet and if you want to for health reasons, go ahead, no one will stop you. By the same token you should afford the same choices to those that wish to partake in meat consumption to varying degrees.

For me, I eat meat or fish once a week on average, and the rest of the time is made up of vegetables, (free range) eggs, grains (or grain derivatives i.e. bread, noodles), tofu even, whatever, it's a very diverse diet. When I do eat meat I get it from a butcher that will talk to me about where it came from, the farm or who shot it or what-have-you. For me this is a great compromise between health and quality of life and enjoyment. Even if I chose to eat shrink wrapped supermarket minute steaks every day, you should still afford me this (un)health(y) choice.

>>131798587

Vegetables, legumes, and grains don't feel pain.

>>131790285
It tastes great : )

>>131790285
Oh shit, this reminds me to eat my bacon

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>>131798195
Hitler wasnt a vegan

His favorite part of an animal was the liver

>>131798758
What store sells horses?

>>131799088
I'm sure OP eat potatoes. Please don't insult him.

>>131790285
It tastes good. I also enjoy making Peta upset.

>>131799163
2/2

>b-b-but it's unethical

Yes, I would never advocate for eating such poor quality meat that results from less than decent care of the animal. This is because the meat will taste worse and be worse for you health-wise. The ethical argument is 100% retarded though and here's why:

Livestock cannot live without humans, so a human must be paid to care for them. Where will this money come from? Further more, where will money for the land come from? The animal feed? etc. I suppose if you're really wanting to be friends with all this livestock you might force the taxpayer to pitch in. Enjoy all forms of livestock basically becoming endangered species when politicians attempting to drive down taxes force the populations to be slashed to less than 1% of their original. Boy it sure is worth it to get my time with one of 50 pigs left in the world, which leads us to...

>b-b-but a pig has the intelligence of a human 3 y/o!

A human 3 y/o will eventually become an adult that I can have an intellectual interest in and we can enrich each others lives that way. 3 year olds are dumb as shit, pigs are dumb as shit, but in 13-18 years that kid is going to be a useful human. Not to mention if I did want to eat 3 year old humans, it'd be way too expensive to justify. Tiny amount of meat, long gestation periods, requires much more care than a pig.

>b-b-but you don't eat dogs/horses

Even if dog meat didn't taste terrible and tough, dogs are much more valuable to humans as companions (for those that like them) due to their pack mentality. They also have close ties to human culture as pets. Horses also have their uses and when they outlive that usefulness I do end up eating them (horse meat p. good), or my dog does. A pig is not a good pet, see: every celebrity that bought a teacup pig when that was trendy. Where are they now? The abattoir/a farm. I do not know why vegans insist that lines cannot be drawn based on reason or personal preference, they can, and dogs are out.

>>131799266
Most high end grocery stores have some. You can ask your local butcher too.

>>131790285
I don't.

I'd rather eat PETA members.

>>131799253
He was. He used to love liver but eating meat made have terrible stomach aches.

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>>131791142

10kg of meat (which humans can eat) eaten by dogs and cats for sustenance turn into 1 or 2 kg of dog
10 kg of grass (which humans can't eat) eaten by cows turn into 1 or 2 kg of meat or milk which humans can eat

Now go away you fucking retard

>>131799182
Pain doesn't have to be inflicted to harvest the flesh of those we consume.

>>131799163
>>131799396

This is the only good argument itt

>>131790285
Why dont they protest the Chinese cooking cats and dogs alive instead of this bullshit?

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>Have proteins in your digestive system designed to break down proteins.
>We've been eating meat for millennia
>mfw people that it was a biological mistake that we eat meat.

>>131790285
It's easy to make, it tastes good, it's good for you to eat meat.

>>131799182
How do you know that? That is according to your perception of pain.

>>131799567
>cows
>eating grass

This isn't 1850, cows are factory farmed and eat grain feed.

>>131790285
It tastes good
And is keto friendly

>>131799724
not sure if serious

>>131793243
>a chicken needs 527.9262 gallons of water to lay 12 eggs

>44 gallons of water to make one egg

WHAT FUCKING PLANET DOES THIS GUY LIVE ON?

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>>131790285
Because it's something I want to do.
Beyond that, I need zero argument.
Maybe they should worry about all their fellow humans going homeless and hungry in their metro areas, instead.

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>>131790285

>Be Ingrid Newkirk
>Stay closeted about marriage to Dr. Neal Barnard of PCRM because if it were public knowledge, his shill organization would lose credibility
>Toss out wacky campaigns for attention because PETA has lost all relevancy even in the vegan world, and relies on shit tactics to generate funds
>Kill thousands of adoptable animals every year and dump them in public locations because you have the capability to euthanize, but not to incinerate the remains
>Make shitty documentary about how you want your employees to grill your fucking corpse and eat you after you die to "make a point"

Holy fuck the fact that anyone cares about this old attention whore roastie or her failing organization is totally comical.

>>131799724
Breh, they send the cows from the field to the factory to slaughter them.
Corn is just a temporary diet to fatten them up.

>>131799711
Trees cant move they reproduce by animals eating them. Fruits are made to taste good so that animals eat them then shit out their seeds far away, the seeds then end up producing new trees.

>>131794016
This
Rabbit stew isn't a meme

>>131799492
Have you seen them? There's nothing to eat skin and bones the whole lot of 'em. Except for their leader Ingrid who regularly shoots up insulin manufactured from pig pancreases. Looking at her I'm willing to bet she started promoting meat free diets because her doctors told her to stop and like ex alcoholics who turn in prohibitionists she decided that if she can't have it no one should.

>>131793243
>>131799865
Im curios, what do they think happens to the water?
>animal/plant absorbs water
>almost all of it gets expelled
>evaporates and joins clouds
>rains
>OR
>filters through ground
>joins underground water
>flows to river or some shit

Its not like animals somehow destroy all the wter they drink.

>>131791636
How do you measure sentience? Are you vegfag hippies truly THIS retarded??

>>131800247
You look into its eyes for 60 seconds and give a score out of 10 of how much you connected wit the thing.

>>131800427
Well, that would explain why white women have such a fancy for nigger babies.

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>>131790472
I think you might need this

>>131790285
tastes better then a fucking carrot

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>>131790683
The eternal leaf

>>131790285
Without bacon what else will I use as a bookmark for my Koran?

>>131790683
>Not an argument
the eternal leaf ladies and gentlemen

>>131798370
Just paint your horses white and black and teach them to moo.

>>131790285

>WHAT ABOUT THAT BACON YOU GUISE EAT IT IS SO CRUEL!!!! KILLING ANIMALS IS WRONG!!!!

>PLS DO NOT TALK ABOUT THOSE TIMES OUR EMPLOYEES GOT CAUGHT DUMPING DEAD PUPPIES AND KITTENS INTO TRASH BINS, I SWEAR, THESE WERE MERCY KILLINGS!!!!

Vegans: Biggest faggot hypocrites ever

>>131793243
>drinking tap water
No
https://www.google.com/amp/newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/06/11/conservatory-water-body-found/amp/

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/indiana/articles/2017-05-26/2-bodies-found-in-water-in-indiana-incidents-separate

http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/water-towers-206365

>>131799182
So you can kill living things if they don't feel pain? Still fucked up faggot

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>>131800125
Wrong

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10883675

>>131791587
Ehhh long-term effects is you fucking live forever. My grandmother has taken like 10+ vitamins a day for the 80 years she's been on this earth and really doesn't look that old

>>131799865
I just did some calculations, and assuming their number for corn is correct, the egg number is (almost) correct, it takes 0.5L per egg that the chicken actually drinks, but the corn they eat is almost 100L. so if they coint some other water like waching the coop it can be 200L I guess.

Ill check the corn number now.

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>>131790683
>Why does the animal have to die in the first place though? Humans don't need meat to survive.
How do you think pigs, cows and chickens would fare if they were released in the wild? They were bred for this purpose.
Fucking hypocrites:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2106757/PETA-killed-95-adoptable-dogs-cats-care-year.html
>In 2011, government report obtained by nonprofit organization claims 1,911 animals killed
>Only 34 adopted in same time span
>People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals killed more than 95 per cent of animals in its care last year at a Virginia shelter, a shocking new report states.
>The report, released by non-profit consumer group, claims that PETA - which is known for its outspoken stance on animal rights - were responsible for the deaths of nearly 2,000 adoptable animals last year alone.

Is this PeTa's thing now? Just being dicks on Twitter?

>>131790683
>Humans don't need meat to survive.
We don't but just because I can, I will.

>>131791142
We domesticated dogs to identify with us/our emotions so they could serve as companions.

We made horses, chickens, cows as fat as possible so they could provide us with more meat. They're
dumber now than their wild ancestors.

>>131801438
my grandmother is fucking 96 years old, eats meat 3x a day, red meat every morning and needs no supplements, is not on pills and still cooks for an entire family every day

>>131790621

This. Nuff said.

>>131790375
You can't trust someone who doesn't like bacon. Best reason yet.

>>131791142
>cat, dog, cat, dog, cat, dog, dog

Looks like i draw the line right after the 4th dog.
That was easy, next.

>>131790285
Cause i can. Now get the fuck out.

>>131790285
It defeats the Jews and Muslims

Because I don't have enough money to eat filet mignon every day

>>131801404
>look at this outlier that i posted haha looks like this cherrypicked example proves me right i win again haha

Most vegans dont eat 5000 calories a day you fag

>>131801835
We domesticated dogs so they could hunt.

That was literaly the only reason. Your points came way later on.

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because my father in law raises and sells farm animals alive or dead and they are treated humanely and disposed of quickly and painlessly. plus I'm not a faggot and I eat what I want

>>131802722
And guard/herd livestocks.

>>131802470
Nigger can you not read the link I posted?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10883675

>>131801404

>YES, GOYIM, THIS IS JUST LIKE WHEN I SHOW A PICTURE OF A SMART NIGGER AND CLAIM HE REPRESENTS ALL NIGGERS, PLESAE BELIEVE THIS AS THE STANDARD!!!

>>131802793
That also came later on,the humans back then were only hunters and gatherers.

>>131801921
Anecdotes are not arguments. My grandma smoke a pack of cigarettes a day, drank a shit ton of alcohol and lived till 92, then died peacefully in her sleep.

>>131803186
>Anecdotes are not arguments.

From the guy who posted the 1:1,000,000 large vegan.

You're a retarded fucking cunt, and a goddamned hypocrite. Bolt gun yourself.

>>131802902
>"Vegans had higher testosterone levels than vegetarians and meat-eaters, but this was offset by higher sex hormone binding globulin, and there were no differences between diet groups in free testosterone, androstanediol glucuronide or luteinizing hormone."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10883675

>>131803325
Go back to fucking your sister hick. I posted this link 4 times already learn how to read.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10883675

>>131791142
I draw the lime @ stop tasting good because I'm a spoiled American but if I was starving any meat would be a blessing

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>>131803550
>canadian (((science)))

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>>131790285
BECAUSE IF I DONT FRY MY BACON IN MY PAN FIRST I DONT HAVE ANY FAT TO COOK MY PORK BLOOD PUDDINGS IN

>>131790285

I just want to piss off desert niggers

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>>131790285
I don't buy into the animal privilege, which is the primary cause of plant genocide.

>>131790375
Not that I disagree, but that's nigger-tier argument.
You must be stinky little nigger.

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>>131803550

No, you're just a fucking weak faggot who already proved to be a complete retarded hypocrite and now look like a fucking tool.

Good work defending an organization that kills viably-adoptable puppies and kittens while making yourself look retarded!

>>131804102

Pork is haram my Somali friend.

>>131803186
Anectodal HAHAHAHAHA

Most if not all grandparents in Brazil have a heavy diet based on meat + more meat + carbs and they tend to live well into their 90s.

The average life expectancy of Brazilians (heavy meat eating third world country) is 74.4 years old and a population growth that exceeds many countries.

Veganism is (((their))) agenda to push supplements and soy poison.

Stop drinking the (((kool-aid)))

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>>131801404
>Unironically promoting veganism
Stick to the pagan general threads, fucking savage.

Arguement;
Humans were hunters back in the old ages,later on they became farmers and started domesticating cows and pigs. The sole purpose and reason of that was to have a stable food source that didn't require allot of energy and time as hunting needed.

Theres your arguement,we eated meat and always will.

>>131803431
>>131803550
>higher test offset by globulin, resulting in test levels being the same
>9% lower IGF-1
Are you trying to prove vegans have a lower potential for muscle at development? Because that's what your source says. Try taking a break from getting face fucked by your boyfriend so you can actually comprehend what you read.

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>>131804239
>>131803968

VEGAN MEN HAVE THE SAME TESTOSTERONE LEVELS AS MEAT EATERS KYS YOU ILLITERATE FUCKING RETARDS

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10883675

>>131790285
only pathetic losers are primitive enough to eat animals

>>131804499
>resulting in free test levels being the same

>>131803550
>Posts abstract data that has no correlation to any vegans actually being bigger/stronger than non-vegans
>claims victory
>doesn't realize that some of us are former vegans ourselves and know that 99.9% of them are scrawny weak ass faggots who couldn't punch their way out of a wet paper bag

Keep trying, buddy. Btw, how's your "vegan leather" belt made from petrochemicals by a 10 year old in China holding up? Have you saved the planet yet?

For the entire existence of life, 4 billion years, life has hunted other life and ate it to survive. Pigs were domesticated for consumption 8000 years ago. Lab grown meat doesn't exist. Vegan diets are rabbit starvation diets.

>>131799182
Pain is a social construct. If a plant identifies as an animal it may feel pain.

>>131804532

Doesn't matter, they're still scrawny weak-ass faggots. What good is testosterone if you seem to literally WANT to be filled with estrogen every day of your existence?

It's as if you vegans WANT to all be females or something. You'll get there with those soy tits in due time.

>>131804305
go suck your bulls dick you fucking leaf

>>131794059
If another being doesn't have a right to your body, you have no right to harm the fetus, you have no right to its body.

>>131804129
kek

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>>131804698

DID YOU JUST ASSUME ITS SPECIES!?!?!?!

>>131790545
If you buy it, the store has to restock it, which means the vendor has to order more, which means slaughterhouse needs to increase output, which means more dead animals. I eat bacon, but this is just a bad argument.

>>131791142
If I was offered dog or cat meat I would at least try it once.

>>131790285
Living creatures die no matter what we eat, either directly (by eating them) or indirectly (by killing them so they don't eat what we eat). If you're a vegan that thinks you don't partake in the killing of living organisms then you're fucking dumb. Ultimately the only barometer for what people think is ok to kill is what living beings they are empathetic towards. For instance vegans are empathetic for things like cows and pigs but not for things like bugs or insects. So ultimately it's up to each person to determine what they are empathetic towards.

>>131804499
Igf-1 increases cancer risk.

>Last year, data from the investigation of male physicians also showed that men with the highest levels of IGF-1 had more than four times the risk of prostate cancer than those with the lowest levels.

>Another Channing Laboratory team concluded that premenopausal women with high IGF-1 levels have more than double the relative risk of breast cancer. Younger women are at greatest risk.This team was led by Susan Hankinson, an assistant professor of epidemiology at the School of Public Health and an assistant professor of medicine at the Medical School.

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/1999/04/growth-factor-raises-cancer-risk/

>>131804852
Oh my, that was inconsiderate of me. I apologise for spreading specism.

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>>131805066
Dogs and cats are people you murderer.

>>131805219

I lost 2 vegan friends to cancer before they were 45.

I know 2 vegan females who had their tits lopped off after getting breast cancer (and you know what? They're both Canadians, look up Sarah Kramer and Bif Naked if you need proof).

FUCK your disingenuous shilling for MUH LOWER CANCER, vegans die of cancer every fucking day like the rest of us. You are a waste of life, please kill yourself.

>>131805219
Counter my arguement faggot. Oh wait you can't,can you?

>>131790285
I m an ordinary human being who is biologically prgrammed to eat meat, not an drugged up, pretentious, brainwashed, scrawny cunt

I eat pigs, I love em. They taste good. I think we probably shouldn't eat them for a lot of reasons, including intelligence and being so close to human. I still eat them though, bacon is good. I feel torn.

>>131805268

Apologize to the plant, I do not speak for my green friends!

You can't remove a consumer in a food chain or web if it's been so integrated into that chain for so long. Humans are in a food web/chain that if removed would lead to overpopulation of certain animals that would lead to the extermination of other vital consumers and producers. Don't fuck with this shit leaf.

>>131790285
Honestly I don't like the taste, and I think I might be allergic or something, when I eat pork I get dizzy, sometimes I get a headache and a rash. But since I found out pedohammad hates pigs I became a regular consumer, I'm planning on building an hydroponic/acuaponic suburban farm, I'll buy a couple sows and use their excrement as fertilizer for my veggies, then sell those veggies to the muzzies

>>131790285
Sure. Easy.

I like the taste of it.

>>131805219
>IGF-1 is necessary for normal growth and development
>those with the HIGHEST levels in their 40s are at risk
You're really bad at this, retard.

>>131801404
>VEGAN
>drinks protein shakes

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>>131804741
>You'll get there with those soy tits in due time.

"There is essentially no evidence from the nine identified clinical studies that isoflavone exposure affects circulating estrogen levels in men."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20378106#

Plant isoflavones dont affect humans. Meanwhile you probably drink milk from pregnant mammal cow filled with estrogen.