UK rules to kill baby against loaded parents' wishes

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As long as they're not using the NHS, the government can fuck right off.

>>131767677
Move along nothing to see here; This is what you get in a socialist system.

>>131767677
I wish they killed OP instead

>>131767677
It's because they are white, if it was a troop of refugee children they would have killed the fucking Prince himself to save their asses.

I find it astounding that the parents can't choose what to do with their children. I hope the parents receive their just vengeance.

Despite the chance of the treatment being successful the child will never have a quality of life worth having. It's going to be a cabbage regardless.

>white baby
Guaruntee this is the determining factor in the EU courts' decision.

>>131767677
Yes we've already had this thread.

The child had an incurable disease and was fucked beyond repair. The doctor offering treatment in the US didn't even know how severe the baby's condition was, treatment would not have worked.
Parents were just forcing the child to suffer because parents are irrational when it comes to children.

In future parents will fucking learn to give up on dead-end kids. Genetic diseases, retards, disabled, they're all going to have shitty lives, costing hundreds of thousands per year just to do nothing with their existence other than suffer and be cared for.

>>131767677
>£1.4million via crowdfunding
damn does it really cost that much money to try and save a little babies life.

What the absolute fuck is this bullshit?
I can understand government stepping in and overruling parents wishes if it's to SAVE the life of a child ie. parents refusing medical treatment because of religious reason, Largely because the child is also a citizen and the government must do what it can to protect it's citizens.

But actively fighting the parents when they are clearly acting in the child's best interests and trying to keep it alive? Absolute fucking lunacy.

>>131768479
Probably not. There's thousands of crowdfunding campaigns that exceed their goals and yet they never refund the excess.

>>131767677
EU courts: Support eugenics
Monkeys: Want the defective to breed

makes you hmmm

>>131768507
>But actively fighting the parents when they are clearly acting in the child's best interests and trying to keep it alive?
Again, the baby could not be cured. The doctor offering treatment in the US admits he didn't know how far gone the kid was, there was no hope of curing it even with experimental treatment. The parents were asking for the state to pay to keep their child alive and suffering while they arranged to travel to the US for a treatment that wouldn't work.

I've read about this story today already and then there was no pictures and i thought to myself "I bet the baby was white"
Color me surprise....
Fucking kike pieces of shit.

>>131768479
I don't know how much it costs, the ambulance, the plane with some medical shit, they'd have to pay a lot of money for some kind of ambulance-jet, wouldn't they? Then their stay in the US and then the experimental treatment.

>>131768738

>there's a very low chance something might work in a situation where all else is hopeless
>"Let's kill a baby instead."

This is why your country is a laughing stock and isn't going to be majority white by the end of the decade.

>>131768729
If you guys are so progressive why do you let Mudslimes reproduce en masse and take over your shit? Fuck yourself, Klaus.

This is why you never agree to give the government any more power than it has, you think you'll have some natsoc/facist utopia but they will always, ALWAYS fuck you over.

>>131768377
>Genetic diseases, retards, disabled, they're all going to have shitty lives, costing hundreds of thousands per year just to do nothing with their existence other than suffer and be cared for.

Are you talking about all the kids following the trans fad? Agreed, bullet to the head.

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>>131768377
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ1VQD9oVrA&t=1m2s

Your proposal is exactly like what native tribes do, people who kill their kids coz tribe said its gud.

You only have a more sanitized way of doing essentially the same thing.

>>131768992
>there's a very low chance something might work in a situation where all else is hopeless
No. Literally no chance.
The law prohibits unecessary suffering, and guess what- demanding your vegetable child be kept on lifesupport while you waste a lifetime of money for a treatment that won't work because you forgot to inform the doctor that your child is too far gone to be cured because you're an irrational parent who can't into medicine- is considered unnecessary suffering

>>131768377
Sick statist opinion. Untreatable is untreatable until it isnt.

>>131768992
They took this to the EU court, they also ruled against the experimental treatment...

You don't quite seem to understand, it's a no hoper child, no chance of survival, the child is in pain and is suffering. The parents (understandably) are being selfish by keeping him alive for their own comfort which is why neutral bodies have ruled over them because they are clouded by their own emotions and not the well being of the child.

>>131768811
Moving him could kill him and then what?

>>131769226
So let's keep vegetables alive because the tribe says it's bad?
ggwp

>>131767677

Tyranny
Next stop FEMA

>>131769335
Today its no chance. Tomorrow its a 99.9% chance. Next week its shut the fuck up and pick up the fucking can, citizen.

>>131769444
There's no "we" in this though, it's their baby and not yours, and it's their money and not yours. Your argument would have more weight if they wanted taxpayers to fund their baby's life.

>>131767677
Why shouldn't that kid be killed? It's a genetic fuckup that will be nothing but a waste and a burden. Kill yourself huenigger.

>>131767677
It's a tough story. On the one hand you have a family that is willing to take charge of their own affairs and pay for treatmebt elsewhere, and on the other you have doctors and government who are "supposed" to be making decisions in the best interest of people.

So who is in the right? The doctors who we are supposed to trust to give expert level opinions on these issues? Or the family who will fight to the bitter end, no matter the chances, to save their son?

>>131769335

Speaking of vegetables, I think I'm talking to one. You have no spine.

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>>131767677
>white baby
>Into the fucking oven, privileged scum

>brown baby
>muh Love Beats Hate

>>131769519
Yes, and so long as today is no chance unnecessary suffering will remain illegal.
They didn't rule against it because the treatment was experimental, they ruled against it because the parents were demanding the state preserve the life of a vegetable, causing it to suffer, so they could pop it on a jet (probably killing it in transit), for a treatment that we can say for certain would not have worked because the babies condition was so severe.
Maybe if they'd tried the treatment before things got so bad it would have been fine. But they didn't and it wasn't and irrational parents don't know what's good for their children.

>>131769623

Honestly giving the government that power is what really scares me

>>131769623
>should we trust the (((doctors))) who want to kill a white baby or a family who wants to pay for their own treatment at no cost to the government but isn't allowed to move their own baby
truly a puzzler

>>131769585
>Your argument would have more weight if they wanted taxpayers to fund their baby's life.
They literally did. It was tax payers money keeping the fucking baby alive and suffering that's why it was not their decision to end lifesupport.

>>131768811
If you pay in cash the procedures are much cheaper.

We have people use their insurance to pay for an hip replacement surgery and the overnight stay costs them like $13000 alone. But their insurance covers it.
But then we have foreigners from Japan who come in to have their surgeries and they pay upfront in cash and we don't charge them as much.

>>131769519
>>131769471
Doctors have a duty to prevent suffering and worsening of a condition. They cannot prevent the worsening of this condition. The little battery inside his cells that turn oxygen and other stuff into ATP are dying and this cannot be reversed by any known treatment. Even the experimental treatment has no success. So doctors go to the next step, prevent suffering, this child is in an immense amount of pain. Do you think someone with a terminal illness should suffer in pain? Even when radiation will not work and chemo will not work?

You would make that person suffer pain for your own amusement and needs? The parents could have avoided this shit show had they put their child first and accepted that death is inevitable in this case. Yes it's sad but you cannot replace the mitochondria inside every cell in the body, it cannot be done. He's literally rotting inside out.

>>131769737
Plenty of nig children die here because of sickle cell and no blood donors because the only blood blacks donate is the 8 pints of it on a street corner in Hackney.

>>131769844
Let's say you are right and there is no shot. Do you really want to give the government the power to decide life and death for innocence? I guess euros care less about individualism and freedom.

>>131769623
Regardless of whether that baby is going to die or not the government has no business stopping them from getting treatment elsewhere. How can you tell a couple who just went through nine months of prepping for that child that it's going to die and you need to give up? Thats beyond fucking cruel

>>131768479
Yes it does. Everyone working on the baby makes at least 40$/hr. Times 3 times people times the month the baby will be in the hospital. That's just labor. The medicine and supplemental care will make it go even higher

>>131769585
NHS m8.. Tax payers are funding his life, but that is irrelevant.

>>131769892
>Doctors want to kill
Not really lad.

>>131769844
>trying to keep your child alive is not knowing whats good for them
Try to examine the way you think. This is why the state shouldn't have power over this.

>>131767677
Why don't they switch to private healthcare or put the baby on their own life support machine?

>>131770052
The government didn't... The doctors didn't want the baby to suffer anymore and their medical opinion was to turn off life support, the parents didn't so it went to a court.

Then it went to the European Court. Jesus you Americans really need help with your tyrant complex problems. We must have really left a mark on you when we fucked you hard.

>>131770042
If I'm giving the government the responsibility to care for my dying baby then yep they decide when treatment is no longer viable.
If they'd have gone private then it would have been kept on life support as long as they had the cash to pay.

>>131767677
Brits are big into killing kids. They actually prosecuted two parents for taking their kid for a treatment for brain cancer in Czech that saved his life.

>>131769844
>we should let the (((state))) kill white babies

>>131769226
Natives aren't so retarded to keep useless trash laying around that's going to consume resources and never contribute. Why waste the effort on someone that'll be constantly suffering.

>>131769947
So just release the baby and let the family go elsewhere. Do you sign a contract when you enter a public hospital where your free will is no more and you can't even get out of a treatment? This is dictatorial.

People are free to kill their babies these days, nobody minds this, but when someone wants another opinion in the medical field, and paying with their own cash, suddenly the parents are monsters who are torturing their kid. Are the doctors some sort of gods or can we still go against their opinions?

>>131770114
this shit pisses me off really fucking bad, the state should have no power over this. It's a fucking joke when UK would sook over the USA killing convicted criminals but they kill an innocent kid against their parents will

>>131770247
Actually that was a case involving a mother that didn't want proton radiation used on her son and wanted herbs used but the father fought it and the court agreed with the father that the child should go and have the proton beam therapy.

You complete retard.

>>131770228
They have the cash.... The government is making a moral decision that the parents should be making. Freedom is hard britfam but it is the most important thing.

>>131770114
>keeping a dying suffering incurable vegetable alive no matter what cos "muh sanctity of life" is in the baby's best interest and not just appeasing my morality
Sure thing.

>>131770334
The child is already dead, that wasn't decided by the state, that was decided by his genetics.

Deal with it you sad fuck.

>>131769365
something people miss is that you have to research something to make it treatable and just killing people won't give you the information you need I think

>>131770436
With a sample study of only 16 known cases worldwide and a very short life span?

Yeah it's a bit hard m8.

>>131767677

Is this what a Death Panel looks like?

>>131770321
They wanted the kid on public funded life support, that's what they fought for in court. NHS doctors determined the kid was beyond saving and lifesupoort was just prolonging the inevitable and causing it pain in the process.
The parents demanded it be kept on NHS lifesupport and took it to court an lost.

Maybe you should tell the parents they should've gone private.

>>131770381
The government hasn't made any decision you retard. The court did and so did the EU court...

What are you not understanding?

>>131770435
Yeah even if it is a vego his parents get to decide as long as they can pay for it.

>>131770512
And it would be 17 if not for this.

>american doctor offers and experimental treatment
I bet this (((doctor))) just wanted his foreskin.

>>131768479
I had a back surgery 10 years ago that cost 85k, and the surgery was under an hour. The surgeon did them all day 2 days a week.

>>131770435
what would you say if the state said your teeth are too yellow so you die

>>131768738
I was born with a serious life threatening condition, my parents got that same bullshit when I was born. No chance at a decent quality of life, high chance i'd die before my first birthday etc.

Doctor's wrote me off completely and suggested to my parents that they should call a priest and they could "ease my suffering". My parents rejected that "offer" and decided to take me home and let what happens happen. 30 years later, I'm Married have a completely healthy kid a double degree in Business and Law and probably a higher quality of life than 99% of the people on the planet. As long as I keep my shirt on, people would have no idea what happened to me.

If the parents can raise the funds to keep the kid on life support and they actually want to keep the kid alive, the government should 100% let them. But socialists will always be cunts, which is why we must throw them from helicopters ASAP.

>>131770618
Same thing britfam no need to get ur jimmies russled

>>131770661
Sure, if they'd gone private, which they didn't. Again the court battle they just lost was to have it kept alive on publicly funded life support.

>>131770616
this
don't want the state to allow your child to die? pay for it yourself

>>131770671
No, this is number 16.

>>131770661
Even if it causes more pain and suffering to the child?

>>131770706
Foreskin would be no good, none of his cells would be any good.

>>131770739
It wouldn't be the state that would make that call.

>>131770785
No it's not the same thing pham...

>>131767677
Dumb parents. Do you know how many refugees that money could fund?

>>131770754
Glad ur here aussiefam fuck all the naysayer nhilists

>>131768362
commies have always hated the white race with a vile hatred

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>>131767677
WELL AT LEAST IT WAS FREE

>>131770616
It's easy to say in hindsight they shouldn't have used the socialized healthcare, but maybe they never imagined they'd have to fight the government just to keep their kid alive with their own money.

Do you have an option of not paying for socialized healthcare in the UK? Also that shit makes the private sector more expensive, they didn't always have a million pounds, they only got that after many people felt bad for their whole ordeal and donated to them.

>>131770754
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA_depletion_syndrome

Call us when you invent the cure for it. And a real cure that actually works.

Cheers lad.

>>131770739
If yellow teeth were incurable fatal and I was demanding the state keep me alive as long as possible...

>>131770754
And look at you now, irrationally shitposting on /pol/ about how because you survived against all odds the medical community is wrong about a child with a degenerative disease that the parents are demanding be kept alive by the state

>>131770616
Keeping him on life support until he gets the experimental treatment is entirely reasonable.

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>>131767677
Is this that wonderful socialized heath-care I've been hearing about?

>>131767677
what the fuck

>>131768377
>in future parents will fucking learn to give up on dead-end kids
Nature will be restored to its cycle.

>>131767677
It's a small step from this to the EU deciding on suppressing old (but only white) people to increase the "happiness" of the community.

>>131771054
>Do you have an option of not paying for socialized healthcare in the UK?
Yes.

>but maybe they never imagined they'd have to fight the government
They aren't, they are fighting doctors that have an object interest of the child, not clouded by emotions.

> Also that shit makes the private sector more expensive
Actually the private healthcare here is cheaper because it's in competition with the NHS. So please.

>>131771106
yeah but if you couldn't afford to get your teeth whitened or veneered the UK government deems it a slight against the queen and you must be killed. Then you raised the money to get it done but the court said yeah no too late time to die yellow teeth cunt

>>131767677
>EUROPEAN COURT OF HUMAN RIGHTS
>British Rules
sure mate, keep saying that it's a good thing to stay in the EU.

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>>131767677
>So today you can't even tell the government to fuck off and seek treatment elsewhere with your money. What's next, maybe they'll outlaw gathering funds to save those defective undesirables, and the parents will be jailed for thought crimes.
idk why are you so suprised - UK is still part of the seoviet union after all.

>>131770754
Happens all the time desu. Something like 33% of fetuses diagnosed with downs turn out perfectly healthy. There's probably been millions of healthy babies aborted by mistake.

>>131770864
>courts are not part of the government
they really did a number on you bongs jesus

>>131771054
>they never imagined they'd have to fight the government just to keep their kid alive with their own money.
Holy shit this isn't what happened.
They fought the legal system to keep their kid alive on state money.

Again:
THE COURT CASE WAS THEM DEMANDING THE STATE CONTINUE LIFESUPPORT. IF THEY COULD HAVE GONE PRIVATE IF THEY WANTED BUT INSTEAD THEY WANTED THE TAX PAYER TO COVER IT

>>131767677
>European court of human rights rules in favor of killing babies

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>>131767677
Home Stoning for all when I am king!!!!!
It's cheap and effective!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNvvLtl-55w

>>131770086
The taxpayers were funding the baby's life until the parents wanted out of it and wanted to go to Amurica for treatment. Baby's out of the hospital = no more taxpayer money keeping the baby alive. Seems like logic to me.
Unless now using the NHS is grounds for the government to have total ownership over the patient including prohibition from seeking a second opinion with the family's funds, which is the case.

>>131771450
then why would they raise the money?

>>131771341
All courts with sense and objectivity that have weighed up both sides without being clouded by emotional blur would know that this child should be put out of its misery. I bet you're the same type of person that calls for downys to be aborted aren't you?

>>131771279
Do yellow teeth cause rapid cell death all over the body within the span of a few weeks?

Is there a known cure? Will said teeth cause unnecessary suffering and physical pain?

Of course not, the comparison you make is retarded. If it was a blastoma or hodgkins lymphoma then maybe but really?

Full retard Australia, fix your shit.

>>131770512
better than 0, and there are other cases that can give development with curing this one. I don't want people to be kept alive in a living hell just for experiment or anything though.

>>131771157
Not really. The medical opinion was treatment would not have worked. Even the doctor offering the treatment has said he was not aware the child's condition had gotten so bad and treatment would not have worked. The parents were demanding the state pay to continue lifesupport causing suffering to a lost cause.
Quite unreasonable actually.

>>131769403
Remember folks, socialists in the u.s. said there'd be no death panels.

>>131767677
>world famous children's hospital (GOSH) states there's no hope
>jewish american doctor raises family hopes whilst in reality there's no way to cure a baby with brain damage
>child can feel pain but can't even breathe on it's own
>jewish doctor causes them to drag on the pain and not let the child go to heaven

Wow I wonder who's behind this...

>>131767677
Well, what did you expect? Why would people that are ok with killing unborn babies care about a 8 week old baby? For them it's just a late abortion.

>>131771695
the baby wasn't baptized though.
now it's on the devils assisted breathing machine

>>131771411
Court my baby boy. Court, the government had no say in this.

"Independent Judiciary".

>>131771583
>The taxpayers were funding the baby's life until the parents wanted out of it and wanted to go to Amurica for treatment. Baby's out of the hospital = no more taxpayer money keeping the baby alive. Seems like logic to me.
Doctors have a duty of care, the parents sign that over when a doctor is in charge of the primary care of a patient. If something poses a risk to the child, will worsen the child, make them suffer then no, no they can't move that child out of the hospital because that doctor and the health care team have a duty of care to that child, not the parents emotions.

It is about the interests of that child, see unlike America, we don't steal our children's foreskins, we care only about them. If they are going to die and that death is certain? Most would agree that it would be better that the child didn't suffer pain. That it be over quickly. And you call us statist and evil for this? Fuck you.

>>131771106
>>131771056
You are only doomed to fail if you never try in the first place.

It's an experimental treatment, it may work, it may not. Even if it doesn't work, the information could help lead to a potential cure in the future.

>has brain damage
>want to keep it alive

Pro-lifers are insufferable. In Nazi Germany this baby would be put out of its misery.

>>131770042
>I guess euros care less about individualism and freedom

I hope you're underageb&, because if you're an adult and just now realized that...

>>131771250
>doctors are unbiased
Come on now. Doctors are as human as anyone else. They can easily be influenced by all kinds of a agendas, such as eugenics. You think there aren't doctors out there who want to get some quick buck over flexibilization of euthanasia? Just a lethal shot and get paid, much better than trying to discover what's going on with some old cunt. Kill him!

>>131771687
Then cry about the Dignitas clinics in mainland Europe were depressed people can off themselves, court approved.

>>131771633
Then go invent a cure, less talky, more curey!

>>131767677
Just let that ugly, bad evolved giant sperm die!.

Dear God, stupid people trying to kill human race by letting live this extreme weak breeds

This>>131771912

>>131767677
just kill the little shit. would only be a stain on the gene pool

>>131771912
It already is being put out of it's misery. Blame the money whore American doctor for causing it more misery.
>can't breathe on it's own
>can feel pain
>can't think
>has unfixable brain damaged
>even if it did miraculously fix him, he'd still have permanent brain damage

They appealed like 4 different court rulings and failed. GOSH is still keeping him alive but will let nature take it's course.

>>131771279
You're comparing completely different things because you're a fucking moron.

Yellow teeth are not life threatening. Your cells literally detiriorating from the inside out is.
In one scenario you're saying the state is executing you
In the other the state refused to continue lifesupport.

The parents could have paid to keep the child alive privately had they wanted to. But instead they went to the courts demanding their child be kept alive by the state despite the condition killing it being completely incurable, because parents are irrational. The state said no and they did nothing. I wouldn't feel too bad for them, the chances of them refunding any of that £1.4mil are similar to their kids chance of survival (0%)

>>131771620
fix your teeth

>>131769623
i think the government should apply the same logic to all. no cure for aids? stop all treatment and die with dignity.

>>131771912
Because Nazis are socialist scum.

>>131771279
>>131772124

t. Xiaghnzou Xiao Wong

>>131771955
And the courts are biased? Independent medical experts that don't speak to the child or go near the child that look at the cold hard facts?

They are biased? Everyone but the parents who are emotionally vested and distraught are biased? Okay thanks for clearing that up with me. I am not against the parents here, I get why they cling to hope I get it. But it's selfish if that child is suffering, it's cruel.

>>131771906
It won't work, even the kike that came up with this risky treatment said it won't work, he couldn't even say that it would extend life. If it could extend life then the judges may very well have tried it.

It's a kike on a get rich quick scheme that is exploiting vulnerable parents in their desperate hour and it's wrong.

>>131769225
Underrated as fugg

Sucks. I had jaundice as a newborn and was told I wouldn't make it, and I wouldn't drink breast milk for some reason.

Then my mom brought in a priest and prayer group and after that I started drinking again. Not sure if I wanted them to shut up, coincidence or God's hand, but I'm glad the doctors didn't say I was done for and murdered me.

Then again, probably not as bad as what this kid has.

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>>131772230
that is really racist I reported you to you for hate speech

>>131772362
sorry

>>131772323
Well have a read.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA_depletion_syndrome

>>131771886
>he still thinks courts are not a function of the government
fascinating

>>131767677
I can`t even... I have some doctors I want to punch in the face.

>>131770618
>The courts aren't government

>>131772382
if you hate that they want public health care why do you let fat cunts mooch off the system

>>131769979
I think the most humane thing to do would be to let the child die peacefully. In order to prevent suffering, the doctor would essentially be doing his job. Having tubes running in and out of you for the rest of your life is no way to live. It's sad for the parents to lose a kid but it's the most reasonable thing to do.

>>131772248
Socialists love to tell people what they can and can't do with their own money, don't they.

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>>131767677
Greeks knew better, if a kid is broken, do another one.
It is seflish to grow a sick kid that will probably die few years later anyway and make him suffer his whole life.
>>131772362
Gook?

>>131772549
spic?

>>131772484
Fat people aren't the problem.
Mohammadans coming with their 8 wives from Shitstanistan are the problem.
This country should report every patient by country and release the statistics but they're shit scared of the reaction from the public.

>>131771954
I was being glib I've known that for a long time my friend

>>131770864
>It wouldn't be the state that would make that call
NHS isnt government? Courts aren't government. What planet are you from?

>>131767677
>UK judicial system ultimately forbids them from seeking experimental treatment in the US with their own money
Wtf? How is this even legal? Europe is fucking creepy.

>>131772489
Finally a burger taking sense. The kid could not be cured, even the doctor offering the treatment admits this. And even if by some miracle it had been cured, the damage done was irreversible. It was looking at a life of hospital care, with irreparable brain damage.
Life for the sake of life is as bad as progress for the sake of progress.

>>131772010
okay i will be back in 100 days

making my way to the favela to enlist help of underground doctors who won't be held back by the government. the resistence starts now.

>>131772445
>>131772423
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_independence

Maybe in the USA.

>>131772543
What like the parents that have milked life support for their child on the tax payers penny?

They do indeed don't they....

>>131772489
Well the parents demanded that the child be kept alive for as long as possible, do pain killers even work if your cell membrane and all the organelles are melting?

Nasty.

>>131767677
>1.4 million euros
>couldn't find someone with life support equipment to move their child

yeah these people are just fucking stupid.

>>131772599
Sry m8, the influx still has me off balance

>>131771886
They don't care about the patient, they just want to kill the baby already. Why do you care if the baby might die in the transportation? I thought the baby was better off dead for his own good.

I'd like to know how anyone got the idea that the baby wants to die, was it telepathy? The parents want a sliver of hope of experimental treatment and you're denying this much to them, on the grounds that the baby might die anyway. So why not let them try it? It's not like they're sending him to some pedo ring from hollywood or so, they're trying to improve the baby's quality of life which is commendable.

Ones with less morals than the couple could just give up and buy a yacht with the money they got from donations.

>>131772687
There is no fucking help.
He is currently in the world's leading children's hospital in London, costing the state thousands every day.
There is a 0% chance of a cure, and the child is suffering.

>>131772596
yeah no shit that's why I think the it's bullshit. Those people's families helped build the UK but you don't want to help them out. How would you feel if they decided to let your child die. Mean while they pay for a bunch of pakis to rape kids and shit

>>131768377
when world war 3 starts, it's shit like this that will be my argument on why I refuse to let the us government send my son to die for you European assholes

>>131767677
Meanwhile in the US thousands die every year from not getting medical treatment because they cant afford it and no one seems to care.

>>131767677
>lets make our babbie suffer even longer
>its in it's best interest
good thing the courts put an end to these lunatic parents.

>>131768348
And why is this the U.K. governments decision to make, when they're not even footing the bill. What a bunch of creeps.

>>131772543
>Socialists love to tell people what they can and can't do with their own money
Actually they were telling people what they can and can't do with the states money. Again had the parents gone private they could have kept the kid on lifesupoort until they went bankrupt, instead they went to court repeatedly to demand the state pay for the lifesupport instead

>>131767677
What a great place, where the life of your own children is owned by the government.

>>131772616
>NHS isnt government?
State run with doctors. The courts however are independent, with independent experts brought in. Just like in the EU courts.

What planet are you on lad? I know the USA is a cluster fuck of congress, senates and cuckolding but seriously? Fix your shit.

>>131772194
You're legitmately retarded. There comes a point where it's absolutely acceptable to ease the suffering of an unamenable condition that causes debilitating physical or mental suffering. Omly die-hard MUH JAYZUS christfaggots take an issue with this.

>>131772882
The UK government funds the NHS you stupid nonce.

>>131772010
>Dignitas clinics
non-sequitur, you beast who knows not where the government ends and you begin

>>131772743
>he still thinks that courts are not a function of the government

>>131772820
The real kikes here are the ones that would let the white Anglo baby die when there is a chance to save it

>>131767677
I'm willing to entertain the idea that this decision was due to the fact that the baby was suffering and the parents were clinging to false hopes


but you just KNOW that this shit would NEVER fly if it was a brown kid.

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>>131767996
Jokes on you - if OP kills himself because of your abuse, you'll be liable.

Stupid Aussie.

The baby was fucked. What they should have done is just made another one. This baby isn't developed enough to have any kind of personality or knowledge of self, so nothing of value is being lost.

>>131772687
It's almost as if this isn't what happened.

They went to court demanding the state continue their child's life support and the state said no. If they'd have taken the care private they could have kept the kid on life support as long as they wanted.

just make a new one.

>>131767677
>How do the make you free dude they have drones and jets
I'm 100% euthanasia when there's no quality of life but the dad should stand next to the bed with a rifle and say put me to sleep, i deserve it.

>>131773030
I am behind 7 proxies

>>131767677
I feel divided; on one hand the kid is was going to live and die a potato. On the other hand I'm freaked out that the gov stepped in overruling their right as parents to seek alternative treatment (with their own money) for their son regardless of outcome. I think the gov overstepped its powers and those parent's rights.

>>131772768
>Why do you care if the baby might die in the transportation?
Prevent suffering, they pose the risk of hurting/harming the child further or rapidly worsening the condition. Also once he's discharged from their duty of care then it opens the parents up to negligence, or the Americans because the child would be discharged to another care provider. The parents no, because they wouldn't be the ones giving the experimental treatment.

This child cannot leave the ward he's on. Doctors don't seek to kill people believe it or not, maybe in Brazil they do and you've had bad experiences, but no.

>>131773008
They are owned by the Queen. What now bitch tits?

>>131772990
>I have no argument
Yeah I thought so, back the fuck down cuck slut, I own you whores with my dick.

>>131772743
>What like the parents that have milked life support for their child on the tax payers penny?
>Idk how to read: the post.
They raised their own money, you degenerate tranny.

>>131768362
For once I agree with a leaf.

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>>131768362
But most of them are white if not all?

>>131772749
>April 2, 2017
>His parents set themselves a target of £1.2million the day before a High Court hearing into Charlie's case began.
>The money they raised - which was thanks to donations from around the world, including from celebrities - was enough for Charlie to travel by air ambulance and to cover the cost of the experimental treatment.
The issue is that they didn't want the parents to seek treatment elsewhere with the donated money they got.

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>>131768377
>Much vaunted socialist compassion.
Unironically KYS.
>>131769365
Don't be silly. Socialist UK anon has access to all available human knowledge that ever existed and will ever. He's fucking better than you and I.

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>>131773092

>The fucking edge factor
I leik u

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ITT: People reading a headline getting buttmad and doing no research into the actual facts of the case.
>2017
>still being puppeteered by the media

>>131768738
>state is paying to keep the child alive
That's the exchange. It's not free, they just own you. You're nothing more than a statistic.

>>131772902
So, court rulings aren't given force of law?

Judicial is 1 of our 3 branches, along with executive and congressional

>>131773046
thing is no parent want's to let their child die, would of been better if they just fed them a bunch of bullshit and tried to save the child but the treatment killed it. Then they could just be bitter that modern science couldn't help them.

all this legal shit is just comes off as the state saying their kid should die

>>131773193
>he still thinks the courts are not a function of the government

>>131772811
>He is currently in the world's leading children's hospital in London,
This doesn't impress me one bit. America's healthcare industry is much more robust than your Muslim welfare program. Again, how is this the government's decision of the parents want to go to America with thier own money?

>>131769197
This if the gov can give you everything it can take everything away too.

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>>131773193
>my dick.

>tee been talking to a nigger this whole time

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>britfags itt defending thier failing Muslim gibs program this hard
>implying they would do this to a baby named Mohammad.

>>131773148
>the gov stepped in overruling their right as parents to seek alternative treatment
Not what happened.

Again:
THE PARENTS WENT TO COURT TO DEMAND THE STATE CONTINUE PAYING FOR THEIR CHILD'S LIFESUPPORT, AND LOST

Could've gone private, didn't.

>>131773193
>They are owned by the Queen
Aren't all if you owned by the kwain and sheeeit, nigger?

>>131773574

Wrong.

>>131773205
The case they lost was to have the state pay for lifesupport while they forked over the money they raised to a US doctor for a treatment that he himself admits would not work on a child with such a deteriorated condition.

>>131773574
you didn't answer my earlier question

why would they raise money then? what was the million for if not private care?

>>131767677
>>European Union courts are in total agreement with killing the baby

And the Yanks are fully content on allowing medical experiments on said baby because muh millions of dollars..

I'm not really saying one way or the other, but if you're going to bring up the ethics of 'killing' (letting die, really.. there's a difference imo) a baby, then you should probably also question the ethics of conducting medical experiments on a baby.. For considerable monetary remuneration, one could add.

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>>131771656
>your kid has to die because I think there's a good chance the treatment won't work. sorry bro
when the state decides if your kid lives or dies, what will you not let them decide for you?

>>131772834
We never just let babies die because it takes money away from muzzies.

>>131773574
wasn't the money raised specifically for the other treatment?? The article is not clear.

In any case giving the gov this much or this type of power scares the shit outta me

>>131768377
It should still have been up to the parents rather than the courts to decide whether or not to try.

Oh well, at least we don't routinely circumcise children here like savages... yet.

>>131773813
The disease targets children so the only way to make advancements is experimental treatment on the kids, you fucking toothpaste.

It's better than just letting the child die. Is all of Europe really this cucked?

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>>131767677
>wanting the sick shitting up your race's gene pool

Welcome to nu/pol/. Le enjoy your le stay.

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>>131773723

I'm getting the feeling this white baby died to (((prove))) once and for all that (((socialist))) healthcare is just as good as private healthcare

>>131767677
Why are you neglecting the fact the article says the treatment wouldnt work according to the US doctor?

>>131773225
>The issue is that they didn't want the parents to seek treatment elsewhere with the donated money they got.
No the issue was they didn't want to pay the lifesupport for a hopeless child.
The parents could have used that money to pay for the life support themselves, but they didn't because they wanted to blow it all on a treatment that the doctor offering it admits would not have worked.

Yet again:
THE PARENTS COULD HAVE PAID FOR THE LIFESUPPORT THEMSELVES HAD THEY WANTED TO, THE COURT CASE THEY LOST WAS TO HAVE THE STATE PAY FOR THE LIFESUPPORT

No refunds.

>>131773723
>that he himself admits would not work on a child with such a deteriorated condition
I vaguely recall this being qualified with something
hmmmm
>likely
oh yeah!
>implying it's still the states' decision

>mfw the british call an Orwellian hellish nightmare "government"

>>131773723
And? What's the problem. They can give billions of pounds or Euros or whatever Muslim currency you're using now, to Muslims to play video games and buy nice clothes. But they can't spare a few shekels for a dying white child? Yea, enjoy your caliphate.

>>131773193
But suffering is part of life, there's a difference between minimizing it and thinking killing is justified because muh feefees. I guess that also goes for the folk who want to exterminate orphaned kids, poor people, the elderly because muh suffering.

Are you ready to pull the plug yourself on all people who are suffering and can't communicate like that baby is?

>>131773813
People with terminal conditions are willing to do anything, even become test subjects for new drugs and shit. That's how stuff gets tested on humans. By preventing this you're in fact preventing progress in the development of methods to treat that condition, and not only that but the discoveries from trying to treat this might also benefit other areas.

>>131773574
Stop telling half the damn story. While the courts did reject the appeal for further life support, they also refused to let the child be taken to America. That is the great evil here, that they not only refuse to treat the child further but won't let the family go elsewhere, thus removing all options.

>>131774141
It's the state's decision whether or not they continue lifesupport to a hopeless case, yes.
Parents could have paid for the lifesupport with the £1.4 million they raised, but they didn't, instead they decided to blow that on treatment that wouldn't work, and take the NHS to court to have them foot the bill for life support

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>>131773723
>Give all your shekels to shitskin, low IQ, radical, disease ridden muslims

>Can't spare a few for a white, british family

>>131768377
Obvious Turk is Obvious

>>131774038
>The disease targets children so the only way to make advancements is experimental treatment on the kids, you fucking toothpaste.

Experimenting on human subjects is controversial in the medical field, to say the very least. Again: I'm not saying one way or the other as I'm unfamiliar with the specifics of this case.. But I do strongly believe there are situations imaginable where natural death is preferable to medical experimentation and (possible) prolonged suffering.

>It's better than just letting the child die. Is all of Europe really this cucked?

Is it though? Again, I'm unfamiliar with the specifics of the case, but the situation is typically rather fucked if the treating doctors unanimously say treatment/life support will only serve to prolong suffering..

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>>131774041

I'm not convinced it's the babies genes. Some (((doctor))) probably poisoned the child to make room for patients named Muhammad

>>131774130
So what is this about
>April 22, 2017
>More than 110,000 people signed a petition which urged people to write letters calling on the Prime Minister to release him from hospital.
https://www.change.org/p/uk-parliament-prime-minister-to-allow-charlie-gard-to-go-to-the-usa

Sounds like the government held the baby hostage to me.

holy fuck dude
the UK government actively hates white people lmao

>>131774319
>"the court ruled against the trip to america"
hmmm

Good decision. When it comes to terminal illness, right not to suffer > right to life. Keeping such suffering child alive by experimental therapies is morally equivalent to child abuse, IMHO.

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According to the Stormtards this is for the good of the Volk and proof that we need socialized medicine.

>>131773979
>It should still have been up to the parents rather than the courts to decide whether or not to try.
It was up to the parents. If they'd have paid the bill for lifesupport themselves they could have done whatever wacky treatment they wanted. But instead they raised £1.4 million for wacky treatment and then demanded the government pay for life support in the meantime, government said no.

>>131768377
>parents are irrational when it comes to children
Yes, which is exactly why the govt over here is gonna help kids transition without the parents consent!

Hey bootlicker, the govt isn't doing shit about the arabs in your country operating rape gangs in rotherdam, or bombing children's concerts.
They're not your friend.

>>131773410
READ THE FUCKING THREAD YOU IGNORANT WRETCH

>>131773312
This fuck you OP your green text sucks and you should feel bad

>>131774385
So? Who cares if it's controversial? An American doctor is willing to do it, the parents agreed to try it, the child is gonna die anyway, and they have the money. Two consenting parties. I don't give a fuck what you, I, or any other party thinks about it, humane or inhumane. It's their fucking decision.

>>131774224
>People with terminal conditions are willing to do anything,

Many people with terminal conditions at some point knowlingly and willingly stop treatment in favor of a shorter lifespan with higher quality of life, actually. Not everyone fights till the very end, especially not at after a certain phase of life/age.

>By preventing this you're in fact preventing progress in the development of methods to treat that condition, and not only that but the discoveries from trying to treat this might also benefit other areas.

Lets turn it around. Would you have doctors experiment on your dying child which is beyond any means of saving, to further medicine in general at the expense of your childs wellbeing?

I somehow doubt doctors and judges reached this conclusion on a whim..

>>131774385
>what are human trials
are you really trying to obfuscate the fact that they already have a procedure ready to go

do you think any western country permits any and every form of "experimentation" without being approved?

really?

>>131774482
that child's health care costs could pay for billions of circumcision

>>131774120
>Why are you neglecting the fact the article says the treatment wouldnt work according to the US doctor?

Why are you neglecting the fact that they raised their own money to fund it and if the baby really is a goner than why the fuck should they be stopped from trying?

>>131768266
There's a certain level of humanity missing from this case.

May God crush the wicked beneath His heel.

>>131773694
no u

>>131773979
>Government literally sentences an infant to death
>In spite of the parents willing to pay for treatment themselves
>A-at least I have a bit of skin on muh dick

Holy shit, you're a nigger aren't you?

>>131774405
digits of truth

>>131774660

The UK is violating the NAP when should we fire the McICBMs?

>>131773961
>ask government to care for your child
>government says your child is beyond hope and you're wasting their money caring for it
>raise £1.4 million for treatment anyway
>expect the government to pay for liffesupport instead of paying for it yourself
>take government to court for not paying for life support
>lose
>cry about how government killed your child while you sit on a stack of £1.4 mil
No refunds.

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>>131768377
look at you, so compassionate, repeating the facts of the situation as if you ascertained them yourselves and aren't 100% relying on the system you love so much. your "future" will feature less socialist violence for you to masturbate over, and i suspect there will be little room for you either. Until then, fucking kill yourself.

>>131768377
This, these dead ends shouldn't drag the rest of society behind.

>>131774666
>Many people with terminal conditions at some point knowingly and willingly stop treatment in favor of a shorter lifespan with higher quality of life, actually
yea, and that's the choice of the patient

if you weren't aware, parents make decisions for their children until they come of age, at least if you don't live in a socialist Orwellian hellhole

>>131768377
None of that matters. Children are property. The government can't tell you what to do with your property.

>>131774854
I know you're joking but at this point, firing a few in the general vicinity of western Europe would thrill me to my very soul

>>131772938
Again why do they have a say in this?

>>131774874
>government rules against taking the child to the US
you keep forgetting this part

>>131773737
Money was for travel expenses and treatment in US.
If they'd have not gone for treatment and just kept the child on lifesupoort privately this would not have been an issue.
Again, it was the parents taking the government to court for not paying for their life support

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>>131774660

>>131774874
save a life kill some kids

>>131774952

Kek feel the same way

Heil Hoppe!

>>131773872
THE DOCTOR OFFERING TREATMENT SAID IT WOULDN'T HAVE WORKED

HE DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS SO BAD

It's DNA was ROTTING

>>131774666

You're right, just like how the Western courts and doctors decided that 6 year olds are transgender and need to begin immediate hormone treatment and if the parents refuse they get thrown in prison and custody given to a proud LGPT family.

>>131774874
>Ask government to take care of your child
Do brits even have a private option?

Even if they do, I know most brits sure as shit didn't ask the government to bring in radical, economic migrants, to drain the tit of the taxpayer.

>>131775048
but the court ruled against the trip because of pain and suffering reasons

why would a court even address that merit if it was irrelevant?

do you know how courts work?
>still thinks courts are not a function of the state
oh, yeah, you don't, I forgot

>>131767677
Not surprised; a muslim country doesn't want white babies.

>>131774874
there is humanity lacking in this case. You keep neglecting that the they were kept from traveling to the US I don't know what your deal is but you have posted no less than 20 times licking the gov asshole.

>>131775154
Jews DNA is rotting but we aren't allowed to kill them, why the double standard?

>>131768377
You deserve the same fate that you would doom others to. A lack of compassion is just as much of a dead end. You'll get the future you wish for and I hope you fucking choke on it.

"The Love of many shall grow cold"

>>131774684
>they already have a procedure ready to go
A procedure which the doctor offering it admits would likely not work at all (not even to slightly extend the child's life) because the parents failed to mention how severe the baby's condition was

>>131775328
He's a fucking brit, what do you expect? He's either a muslim or a lowlife white liberal, who lives off taxpayer dime. He literally can't bite the hand that feeds him

>>131773410
>>131773556

Reminder you have more muslims the UK and are 56% white.
Off yourself.

>>131768738
What reason does the state exist if not to keep its citizens safe?

You can give money to Mahmed and his 7 wives and 30 kids, but heaven forbid you have to help one white kid.

>>131772831
>muh feelings
they saved that kid from a life of suffering

>>131774784
It's humane to let the hopelessly doomed infant in agony die.

>>131775497
they don't have a mulsim mayor of their capital city telling them to accept getting blown up is part of every day life

>>131775497
And you're probably 0% white, being a shitskin.

>>131775434
how does any of that rebut the fact that it isn't just random experimentation

did you even read what I was replying to?
>likely not
but nobody asserted they knew for sure, and it should be nobody but the doctor and parents choice to say whether it's right

>>131775563
suffering is subjective and almost universally yields to life

I had to suffer your post

If this baby wasn't white, it would have gotten the treatment.

>>131775481
Post flag

>>131775031
You're right, here let me make a few corrections

>ask government to care for your child
>government says your child is beyond hope and you're wasting their money caring for it
>raise £1.4 million for treatment anyway
>expect the government to pay for liffesupport instead of paying for it yourself
>take government to court for not paying for life support
>lose
>c-can you at least pay for the life support while we fly the child across the world for a treatment which the doctor offering it has admitted won't even slightly extend our child's life?
>no
>cry about how government killed your child while you sit on a stack of £1.4 mil
No refunds.

>>131767677
It's a white baby. Of course the UK government wants it to die.

>>131775582
Little hope != no hope. They had a treatment lined up, it might have worked (so what if the odds were long), but the government said 'nah, too much trouble, just go die'.

>>131770754
I have a similar story. I had staph sepsis after I was born. It went untreated, because the doctors couldn't diagnose it. When they did, they wrote me off. My parents found a doctor who treated me with some sort of a blood plasma from people who had this sepsis and survived. I fully recovered. What's weird is that in the US this drug is not FDA approved. It needs people like me to donate blood of my blood group. Granted, it may not be a common condition, but I would die had I been born in the US and got it.

>>131770223
You should've left a mark on yourselves. Then maybe you wouldn't be giving the state power to kill your children and then defend it

>>131767677
This baby is literally fucked up. He is incapable of breathing, feeding or doing anything without artificial machines propping him up. He has tubes in every orifice and is in tremendous pain. There is no cure (forget the American sham science, it's literally no hope).
The parents can't accept their mongoloid child is already basically dead and want to keep prolonging its suffering

>>131768377
>all these excuses to avoid admitting the state now owns your children in cuckistan

>>131775844
American, what's it to you?

>>131775767
>suffering is subjective and almost universally yields to life
You're a delusional tard.

>>131775859
they are wasting their money on 99% of welfare niggers anyway, you just hate white people you racist cunt

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I think the most remarkable thing here is the furious hard-on people have for denying "stupid people" their freedom. It reminds me of reddit atheists and their unbelievable circlejerk around homeopathy. Yes, socialized healthcare means the state gets to decide what it's paying for and yes, that means some fucked up kid will not make it. What you should take away from this is that state-controlled healthcare is an absolute fucking abortion of a social system, and if parents want to throw a million dollars at saving their child they should be able to. It's so cowardly to say you're doing it for the benefit of the kid to prevent suffering, then move to prevent the state from overpaying, and finally to argue that "not only the rich should get healthcare". Everybody in this thread arguing agressively in favor of the courts can't into freedom. This was a tragedy, regardless of whether the science was right. It's not a moral victory to prevent parents from doing something "stupid" (and oh yeah their child dies, but that's not on us). Fuck.

>>131775859
>have 1.4 million
>unwilling to use some of it on life support
you keep asserting this but it's missing from any of the materials I've seen

but again, the court addressed the merit of pain and suffering, something they wouldn't address if it was just a benefits issue

you don't even know how your own courts work, gas yourself

or just sign up for care with the NHS

What's the problem? They made 1.4 million dollars. That dead baby's the best thing that ever happened to them.

>>131772489
Its the most humane sure but it's not the state's decision. But it's the UK so I hardly care or am surprised anymore

>>131770086
Tax payers fund 3 million shitskins when can we kill them?

>>131775859
This

>>131775990
>it's not true

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>>131775962
Yeah at this point it's just depressing as fuck

>>131776099
Not all toothpastes are cucked beyond belief in this thread.

>>131768377
Amazing the amount of people here that want to prolong a babies suffering and pain to placate neurotic shithead parents that won't grow up and are trying to avoid their own grief before giving an entirely pained existence mercy.

>mfw all the government shills probably work for the NHS
FYI to anybody who isn't a bong, that ministry of death employs some 6% of their entire population and growing rapidly over the years

>>131775990
suffering is neither subjective nor would i want a committee to decide my child's fate if i could use my own resources. the fucking gall of these people to say the parents should be grateful the wise state saved them from their stupidity...

>>131775962
>>131776214
And I was hasty in my judgement.
It's not even the state. It's the fucking EU and its unelected bureaucrats that now own your children.

>>131776297
I don't give a fuck about the parents or the baby in particular

it's the state deciding somebody isn't permitted to make decisions for their child that is alarming

>>131775328
>ask government to care for your child
>literally sign to give them control over its care
>could have gone private, didn't
>child is beyond hope
>even the experimental million dollar treatment can't extend your child's life even slightly
>people who have legal control over your child's share tell you to stop being a fucking moron putting a baby through immense suffering because you can't comprehend when it's over
>"wah wah the people we signed over legal care of our child to got to decide how it was cared for"
Should've gone private.
In fact, I'm willing to bet money, if they'd played it smart, accepted the doctors verdict but asked to switch to private care for the child's last days, they could have then just taken the kid to America and the NHS couldn't stop them because they'd have signed responsibility over to private doctors who are more of a "customers always right" mindset

It's the humane thing to do, you wouldnt let any other animal suffer

>>131774586

I don't know much about the case. Isn't the only reason he is on life support because they won't let the parents take him to a private hospital in the US while they make a decision?

As far as im aware this case is about the ethics of prolonging the suffering of an individual where there appears to be no hope, not a monetary one. Wouldn't the government have still taken this to court if he was in a private hospital in the UK?

>>131776480
it's the humane thing *for the parents* to do

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By George! This baby is sick and the benevolent EU (((doctors))) and (((judges))) say the baby cannot be saved! We must do the humane thing and kill our baby! God Save the queen! (Sips tea brittishly)

>>131776099
Beautiful. I don't know what to add to this, so I'll just thank you for doing God's work and leave a (You)

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Time to go postal on those doctors and that court. Holy fuck.

>>131770042
>>>131769844
Do you really want to give the government the power to decide life and death for innocence?

Government weren't involved in any way in this decision. The doctors and medical team said this kid had no chance and that they were only prolonging its intense pain and suffering. The courts backed them up

Learn the difference between the judiciary and the executive/legislature

>>131776437
I don't understand why they can't see this. The government is telling them their child must die. I thought most people here were pro life but it's obvious they just want to be edgy cunts.

>>131768266
proof pls

>>131776104
The fact that the court case was to have the government pay for life support ought to be proof enough. If they'd been willing to pay why sue to make someone else pay?

>>131776542
Not if it means they selfishly keep it alive to suffer

>>131776524
whenever a merit is discussed by the court in a case it's because it was brought up by a party

which means the government did pursue this under reasons other than public care

this guy is a fucking retard that doesn't understand his own court system, but runs his mouth desperately lapping up any semen the government lets fall to the ground

>>131775882
There was no hope.

Take off your rose tinted glasses, realize they're caked in blood and read the thread.

>>131772884
They can't transfer the kid to a private hospital outside of the NHS to keep him on life support while they set shit up in America? What's preventing that?

>people fly off the fucking handle when some gook geeks ejected from a plane who lies about being a doctor and who lost his medical license for selling drugs for sex
>But this situation is A okay God save the queen

Holy shit just make another baby that isn't a potato.

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>>131767677
Holy shit they're making the child suffer by prolonging its life, I can see why the government wants the child to die in peace, the parents can use the money they got and try again with another child.

>WE'RE COMPASSIONATE HUMAN BEINGS
>LOOK AT THIS HUMAN SUFFERING WITH A CONDITION THAT CAN'T BE CURED
>LET'S MAKE IT LIVE AS LONG AS POSSIBLE PROLONGING THE HUMANS SUFFERING
These kinds of people make me sick, if they truly cared for their child they'd let the kid live as long as it can and as comfortably as it can surrounded by people who love it then let it pass.

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>>131776472
it's dead if ww3 pops off it will thrill me to my soul to see your you and your ilk irradiated

>>131776721
>hurr durr I can't understand why courts would discuss human life in terms of suffering and kindness instead of being upfront about what a waste of government money keeping this child alive would be
Neck yourself.

by the way they are violating the Hippocratic oath

>>131776610
>this guy is so incredibly stupid he thinks courts aren't the government because they aren't politicians or something
the british have to be the least educated individuals on government I've ever come across

worse than fucking swedes

>>131768377
Atheists, everybody.

everyone who just read OP's green text and looked no further are on one side of the argument. The typical bandwagon fuckheads. The next category of posters is the ones who just read OPs green text and a little or even the whole article. They can typically see both sides but still favor one. Then there is the informed channer who has done the research, understood both sides, transcended understanding of the issue and is no face palming at the people in the first 2 category.

>>131776718
Then that's not freedom

>>131776180
Finally, you talk sense.

>>131776716
>ought to be enough
lmao

>>131776718
>NHS employee detected
The point many here are trying to make is that the baby's future should be decided by the parents, not the state. It's one thing to be a big government statist, sucking the government's cock to get the free milk, but it's another thing to do it knowing the milk is poisonous.

>>131776942
They have hope their child would live by exhausting every possible measure for treatment. People who just give up because it might be an uncomfortable process make me sick. A bunch of quitters and losers. Where has the fighting spirit of the European gone, specifically the WASP? Was it all sold to the kikes after the battle of Waterloo?

>>131776377
It wasnt only their resources.

>>131776718
wheres the line?

how many years of life is a child permitted to have to you? How much suffering is too much?

if you think the state should answer this question, you should fucking gas yourself

>>131776942
How do you know how long it can live without trying to save it? So many times people have survived things that had literally %0 chance of survival.

Why treat any illnesses at all? Just let people live as long as they can and as comfortably as they can surrounded by people who love them then let them pass?

>>131768377
>nupol cuckolds don't support eugenics

Jesus look at all of these fucking pathetic replies to this post

>>131770754
well done aussie bro, fuck this fucking british nihlist faggot

>>131776828
The fact they didn't try it. They were retards and were upfront about a retard plan to prolong the baby's suffering in order to put it on a plane and travel to America for a million dollar treatment that the doctor offering it has admitted would not even slightly prolong the baby's life.
If they'd just kept their fucking mouths shut, asked the NHS to relinquish care over to a private hospital for its last few days, and then announced their retard plans, private doctors would have allowed it provided they could pay the bill.

>>131776756
I have read the thread. I also read the artical. I also know that every procedure we have today started as a experimental last resort. Let them fight death, they might even win, and each battle lets us improve our weapons for the next duel either way.

In short, these are bloody fine glasses and I'm leaving them where they are.

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>>131774666
Mate you are correct but only in the hypothetical which you construct. You can't start a story with "let's say we have a dying child beyond saving" and then work out how the system should function. What people are responding to so vicerally here is the fact that the court overruled the parents. Of course a doctor knows better than parents whether or not the kid has a chance, but in this case the problem is that the kids' parents actually had a lot of money for their (perhaps stupid) quest to save their fucking kid. But in socialized healthcare, some things just aren't worth it. What things, you ask? Well we can probably save about 1000 african babies from malaria for the price of a single prostate cancer treatment. Does this sound like the kind of decision a state should make? You have to let go that healthcare can be run op input/output and operational parameters. People value what they value, and will pay for what they pay for. Stupid people will pay for stupid shit. If you want to protect them, that's great, but you don't do that by forcing them to hand their money over and going on your merry way with what you consider to be the most important medical issues deserving of everybody's money. There is no hypothetical here.

>>131771056
Maybe that's the kid they'll use to end up developing a cure, did you think about that?

>>131776945
>hurr I think courts tiptoe around issues when discussing merits, also I don't understand what precedent is
>"hey everyone, I have less of an idea how my own court system works than an american, but I'm gonna bong it up anyway"
>"pip pip cheerio just fuck my shit up queen, I can't be trusted"

>>131767677

You tell us when, UK, and the burgers will show up with our bang sticks and help take your children home.

>>131777412
how many times in history has someone been told that the battle it lost, only to overcome the odds and win

>>131776973
Firstly the Hippocrates oath is not a thing outside of the US nor is it legally binding.
Secondly no they're not. "Do no harm", keeping the child alive to suffer when their is no cure for its condition would be doing harm

>>131777018
I'm facepalming at your blog post that fails to make a point

>>131777572
I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.

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>>131777479
One leaf BTFOs all the britbongs
Well done fampai

>>131777018
provide furthur info