UK authorities decide to kill baby against parents' wishes

>>131749805
Good

Well it is a brave new world we live in now and the abbo poster above us is just happy a white baby died he can go blow his monkey looking brother.

My opinion on this depends on whether he'd be able to live a normal life or be a vegetable.

clickbait has arrived on 4chan

please rephrase:

Doctors allow baby to kill itself.

>>131750144
>kill itself
I don't think the baby asked for it

you're just trying to rationalize killing, that's what you're doing

>>131749805
Good, is was a failed unit. Selfish parents only wanted attention for themselves.

if only it was a nig baby, it might have had a shotat life

>>131750259
>>131749805
Yeah, about that cure?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA_depletion_syndrome

Sorry, no cure. Baby in pain, every court in the UK rejected their appeal to make the baby suffer more. They took it to the EU court, the EU court also rejected their wish to make the baby suffer even more.

I know you monkeys like making children suffer with your snuff movies on liveleak but yeah that's not happening with this baby. He needs to be put out of his misery, much like the entire population of Brazil.

Portugal get your colony under control, bunch of fucking monkeys.

cool
It should be legal to leave retarded babies to exposure in the middle of nowhere and let the strongest downies rule death mountain like in Sparta

>>131750593
So what? The parents don't want to kill their son and they have money to try to save their baby. It's not like they're leeching off taxpayers' money. and begging for gibsmedat.

You have no right to stay in the way of parents trying to save their baby, who gave you the right to decide who lives and who dies?

Don't worry the muslims agree with your lack of morals, they'll behead you for your own good, in order to maintain peace we just need to eradicate you a little bit.

we live in a Jewish police state

>>131749805
And people said death panels were a myth

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>>131751045
fuggggg

>>131750136
there's only one 'b' in 'abbo' tyrone, you stupid nigger cunt

>>131750142

He's already a vegetable, and the US doctor who offered the experimental treatment admitted in court that he had no idea the kid was so far gone, and that he probably wouldn't survive it.

Nice cherrypicking OP!

Well, on one hand I can understand the parents wanting to save their child and trying to do everything they can. Call it parental instinct, I suppose.

One the other hand, in a case of quality of life it is probably for the best that the kid died. Anyone know how long the baby would have lived otherwise?

>>131750938
>to try to save their baby

They can't save it, that's the very fucking definition of terminally ill you retard.

>The ECHR said the British courts had concluded "on the basis of extensive, high-quality expert evidence, that it was most likely Charlie was being exposed to continued pain, suffering and distress and that undergoing experimental treatment with no prospects of success would offer no benefit, and continue to cause him significant harm".


The arrogance of the retards truly knows no bounds.

>Terminally Ill
>Still wasting money to keep it alive
How could they be want more slefish?
Also
>Wanting to raise a white child in the United caliphate of Bongistan
That right there is child abuse on it's own

>>131750938
>who gave you the right to decide who lives and who dies?

Who gives the parents the right? Without medical care he would have died already. This is not something anyone can or should survive. This is torture.

>>131750938
There's a lot of ethics in medicine. Doctors also consult whether or not prolonging of life is ethical if the subject is suffering.
It benefits no-one continuing the treatment of this child, which has effectively become a potato/human-guinea pig.
You see this a lot when it comes to old people on there death bed, in which doctors can recommend whether or not to continue treatment.

>>131749805
This is a form of eugenics. This is good.

>>131750136
>it is a brave new world we live in now
What the fuck are you even talking about?
This has been normal in Europe for literally 50+ years
Socialized medicine does not financially have room to try and see if weakly born children can survive.
I was born premsture in the early 90's and would have literally been put in a jar to die had I been born in Europe instead of the US.
You motherfuckers should read up more on socialised medicine in Europe and learn just how fucking bad it is

>>131751722
>I was born premsture in the early 90's and would have literally been put in a jar to die had I been born in Europe instead of the US.

Nigga you are just straight up lying.

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>>131749805

>all the christcucks in this thread complaining about the brainless waste of taxpayer dollars getting denied its intravenous injections of liquid money

Varg is always right

>>131751722
>seppo cunt lecturing people on healthcare
Tip top fucking kek. They made a mistake saving your retard arse.

>>131751536
how do you know you can't save the baby? In the US they have a experimental treatment and the parents have raised 1.4 million pounds to pay for the expenses, you have no right to deny them the opportunity to do whatever it takes to save their son

You know people lived once in a time where not every disease had a cure, the difference is that telling them to go hang themselves wasn't an option, while now we have judges and politicians wanting to decide who lives and who dies

By doing those experimental things, maybe they can even help to find a way to deal with this as a breakthrough discovery. That's pretty much what happens when people go for that kind of stuff, they test all kinds of shit and see what works. If we killed everyone who has a certain condition we would never learn how to deal with it

>>131749805

How many deserving children could they save from orphanages with that much money?

They chose to keep a dying meatsack breathing with a cup of soup where its brain should be.

In all honesty, the court should have ordered the parents to be euthanized as a service to humanity.

>>131751689
>There's a lot of ethics in medicine. Doctors also consult whether or not prolonging of life is ethical if the subject is suffering.
Actually the very first thing your phasicians do is check wether or not it is financially feesible before anything.
Remember on scrubs how the head of the hospital would always be shown telling the doctors that people without care had to be kicked to the curb? That's what it's like in your shithole instead of it just being a joke and fake political tactic used by communists like it is here

>>131750008
I knew this would be the first post. Genuinely curious, are you just being edgy?

This story has a lot of media spin. The mother was clutching at straws, she didn't have a clue about how the treatment works when interviewed on TV.

>>131751935
You clearly have no grasp on the situation whatsoever.

>>131751722
>>131751722
this. the UK's NHS has syrian refugee children to look after, they dont have time for some UK citizens white offspring

>>131751945
That's like saying you shouldn't buy anything expensive because that money could go to starving kids in africa. Completely sjw tier.

>>131751953
>Actually the very first thing your phasicians do is check wether or not it is financially feesible before anything.

Not everyone live in a third world country where greed and profits reign supreme you know.

>>131749805
Britain is literall MURDERING white babies and actively importing niggers
Yet some people don't believe in white genocide

>>131752042
the situation is its their child and they should be allowed to fly out of the country and buy him medical care somewhere else if they desire.

but obviously the UK is a nanny gov that decides what is best for its subjects. i honestly dont see how anyone is surprised at this story, UK faggots have been bred and indoctrinated to follow monarchy rule for hundreds of years. they are a country of followers and children

>>131750593
>every court in the UK rejected their appeal to make the baby suffer more
You mean seek treatment elsewhere, nobody was petitioning to "make the baby suffer more", only to seek treatment in the US. Is that wrong?

>>131749805

Brain damage isn't a real condition, they wanted his organs, because they wouldn't let them, they're killing the child.

Horrible, horrible Jewish cunty bastards they are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY55dg-bnRk

>>131751796
No I'm not, my parents looked into it when I was first born to see if there was any better care in Europe to better maximize my chances of living.
I was born at 26 weeks, at the time England was the closest country in Europe that allowed premsture children to continue living and they wouldn't go lower than 34 while the rest of Europe was between 36 and 38
Don't tell me about shit I lived through you ignorant cunt. Europe STILL has limits to the amount of care they will put out for children born of unusual circumstances based on the amount of cost to the system. You clearly know absolutely nothing about it or you wouldn't be arguing your quite inaccurate point

>>131752155
Yes, some of us (you) live in actual third world countries, surrounded by the people of the third world.

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>>131752042
I'd like to listen to why shouldn't they be allowed to use the money they got via crowdfunding to get a plane and try whatever it takes to save their son in the US. They won't be even occupying a hospital slot in the UK. Does it trigger europeans to see someone valuing their son's life or what?

This is just government enforced eugenics, backed by the EU.

>>131751519
kill him off then. don't waste taxpayer money.

>>131749805
if the kid was gonna be brain damaged they did the right thing

life is already hard enough with a functioning brain

This never would have happened in the free market

>>131752155
It has nothing to do with greed and profits. Your systems can only handle so much "free" shit and an over exertion of the health systems finances on single individuals is not very flexible. If it looks like it starts to get a tad expensive the family has to be turned away in which cases they try to find somewhere else that will take care of their child(iirc Switzerland is pretty similar to the US in that they'll do everything and you'll just have to foot a bill if it gets too crazy) though unlike us they lack free children hospitals on par with what we have

>>131752042
You clearly are a nigger happy that a white baby has died

>>131749805
Good
All potatoes should be euthanized

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>>131752348
it triggers europeans to see someone bypassing their nanny government authority and undermining their socialized healthcare. whats next, all the rich people leave the country for medical care when they need it? who will pay for the syrians?

>>131752189
How the fuck were they going to reverse brain damage already suffered? This would not be a full cure AT BEST it would have grown up to drain public finances and never contribute anything. We have enough brain damaged leeches on the left already. No more.

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>>131752155
>public health system
>greed and profits

>>131752189
Child abuse isn't a right you retard, people don't have the right to torture their brain dead baby. Humans aren't fucking propriety.

>>131752348
You're still not getting the permanent brain damage, terminally ill part. I know you're probably uneducated and all since you're from a third world country but that's not a reason to not even try to understand such simple concepts.

>>131752460
Brillant thought from a clearly brillant brain.

>>131752348
The English exert rule I've all their subjects with an iron fist, letting anyone go from it would fuck them and their NHS would collapse within a year due to all the Brits leaving for America to get real care that isn't by a dirty Muslim having to resort to budget cuts from their nanny state

>>131749805
just fuck again and try to make a non-abortion you fucking idiots

baby lives should not matter until they are 2 years old and if they are genetically fucked they should never matter

>>131749805
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> Anonymous (ID: bQ9gSmRa) 06/29/17(Thu)07:56:08 No.131752030▶
>>>131750008

Should not have waited until their 30s.

I find it ironic how deluded by emotion this Brazilian is but like other posters mention this is terminal and the baby has no chance of having a fulfilled life, how you can justify letting someone suffer like that is beyond me and although people have good intentions I feel theyre missing on a simple and sad point. Kid is doomed, need to let him stop suffering

>>131749805

yeah this happens sometimes he was molested by (((someone))) who couldn't be afford to be identified when he got older

>>131752030
>haha le edgy xDxD

neck yourself

>>131752660
>until they reach 2 years
Why stop at 2? They shouldn't matter until they reach majority. Afterall they're not really human anyway.

>>131752350
They were spending money to get him to the US tax payers weren't fronting a dime
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>>131752620
>Let's not try because it still might stay a vegetable
You cunts act like they wouldn't have let it die had the procedure not worked
Goddamn heathens
And it's not child abuse if the thing is already braindead, it's not even a goddamn child anymore so letting them do as they please is what is right

>>131749805
>raised almost £1.4million

Something's missing in this story. If they raised the money, let them dance the ooga booga dance and put magical magnets on his forehead. It's their money.

If the people are in any way paying for this spectacle, then that's an issue and triage matters. The kid is a braindead vegetable with no real hope of recovery.

>>131750593
>Baby in pain, every court in the UK rejected their appeal to make the baby suffer more.

Can a vegetable suffer at all?

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>>131752620
OMFG THEY HAD THE MONEY TO TRY A NEW CURE IN THE US!!!!! WHY DONT YOU AT LEAST LET THEM TRY THAT CURE BEFORE KILLING THE BABY!!!!!!

>>131751796
Here in Canada we keep babies alive that would be left to die in other first world countries
This is a fact that you could probably look up.
My Mum is in the Neo Nadal Nursery, she has taken care of "babies" that have a lot more in common with fetuses then people.

>>131749805

Bet they would have let him live if he had been the son of refugees or a Muslim.

If the baby is terminally ill what could they possibly do?

>>131750259
>I don't think the baby asked for it
I don;t think 95% of the dead asked for it. quite opposite. Nevertheless they are all dead, you will be too. Soon.

>>131752825
If it were possible to reverse brain damage, how come they haven't tried it on (you)?

>>131752915
>waaah they could do this they could do that.
Got to love when you put your kids up for nazi tier experimental procedures

>>131752436
Serious crippling long time diseases are fully reimbursed in France so basically everyone who's afflicted with that can afford treatment. Which means doctor "phasicians" don't check wether or not it's financially feesible before treating the patient.

>>131752844
No it's just the English courts showing everyone that they still have power.
Rags pick up stuff like this all the time for click bait but in reality it's just a show of force and reminder to the English that they have no say in their own lives if the state so wishes
You would think there must have been something else going on that the court wouldn't be so cruel but you would be wrong. They made their decision and any attempt to overturn that in their eyes is an attempt to ursurp or override their power to make decisions

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>>131752636
>due to all the Brits leaving for America to get real care

You can get private healthcare in single payer systems.

If you don't like the greasy polack who they hired, go get private healthcare as long as you pay for it.

That's what you dumb shit americunts don't get. You're getting fucked out of the baseline help and then jewed twice by insurance and lawyer kikes that make your bandaids cost 20 000 dollars because GUESS WHAT RETARD YOU STILL PAY FOR THE ILLEGAL OBESE MEXICANS ER VISIT.

Top kek, he thinks his costs aren't socialized.

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>>131751245
Proof of nigger level intelligence the fucking emu cucked Aussie can't even spell abbo right http://www.slang-dictionary.org/Australian-Slang/Abbo

>>131751722
>I was born premsture in the early 90's and would have literally been put in a jar to die
And you really should put you weak genes in the jar.

>>131749805
Good abortion should be legal and paid for my the government.

>>131752348
Because the child is public property and therefore may be disposed of by the state.

This is what socialism gets you, numbnuts.

>>131753014
Because you're ahead of me in the que mate
>>131753050
Diseases =/= debilitating birth defects

>>131749805
POST THE DAMN LINK!

>>131749805
Even if he survives he would grow up to be a literal retard because of the brain damage. The doctors did him and the parents a favor.

>>131749805
They can just make an other one instead of having to deal with living with a brain dead person for the rest of there lives

There is a difference between killing, and putting a switch off on someone already dead.

You christians are so stupid on that, using technology and modern medicine to keep old people from dying when God chose their time has come, or to keep on life support some people forever who were weak since birth and natural selection should've taken off.

Then, compalin about whites are weak.
Good job.

>>131752620
>trying to save a child's life is child abuse
Are the french already brain dead? Try to pretend the baby is from a muslim, then maybe your empathy will kick in

>>131753069
Until 2007 the only socialized medicine we had was Medicare(which is getting the hatchet soon)
>You can get private insurance if you don't want the single payer
Yes you can, and it's expensive as fuck and shit compared to what you can get in America for a fraction of the cost. Or at least it was until Oniggercare
If you seriously think eurocuck healthcare is comparable to what we have in the US then you need to do some research because you are terribly uninformed

>>131753069
I love how you cucked ice countries keep bitching about the price of health care in America guess needing antidepressants to live in a fucked by mudslims liberal hell scape really ups the number of visits you faggots make per year

>raise money to fund treatment
>no that might kill him, its safer to just kill him

>>131750593
If I make a wiki page that says you're a faggot, will you come suck my dick?

>>131751722
Socialized medicine is cancer

My grandmother went to the hospital with a broken leg, was tied to a bed, got an infection and died

>>131750142
Permanent vegetable, operation had 0% chance of helping. Doctors are ethically obligated to not put patients in unnecessary pain, and keeping the kid alive is unnecessary pain.

>>131753034
>trying to save a baby
>NAZI EXPERIMENT!!
It's their baby and their money, they have every right to try to save him

>>131753118
>Weak genes
>Survived being borderline translucent, having half developed lungs, and still barely half way done being developed
Whatever vodkanigger

>>131749805

If this was a minority family this discussion wouldnt be had. Truly white genocide.

>>131752760
honestly they shouldn't matter until whatever age Christians think they can go to heaven without being "saved" since Christians are so against sending babies to heaven and would rather them grow up and risk the chance of God setting them on fire for eternity for getting tricked by Satan instead

>>131753201
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4644268/Charlie-Gard-s-parents-lose-final-appeal.html#comments

English will make room for more muslims

Whats the point in keeping him alive? True love would be putting him out his misery

>>131753431
This

>>131753305
>You christians are so stupid on that
No they are not stupid. When christians were in power they banned technology and especially medicine so nature good do their job. This baby born in the Christian 1017 would be no issue at all.

But then liberals came and deprived Christians of the government powers and forced medicine and """"progress"""" degeneracy on them.

>>131753381
>got an infection and died
That's an 1800's epitaph if I've ever seen one

>>131752825
>still might stay a vegetable

Dude, when a bunch of doctors come together and say the brain damage is permanent, it's permanent. Stop pretending you know better. That's what ignorant people do.

>>131752281
Your country has the poverty rate of Turkey, anon (and about the same number of people who think evolution isn't real too).

>>131752915
>>131751519

>>131753431
As ridiculous as that claim sounds, I agree. It really seems like the natives of Europe are being singled out out for some type of ass backwards eugenics program. Between all the mudshit and nigger men, unpunished rapes and assaults, the very common terror attacks etc

>>131753118
>Literally does not know anything about what causes premature birth
>Simple Google search shows that most premature births have nothing to do with the babies genetics for the most part
http://www.aboutkidshealth.ca/En/ResourceCentres/PrematureBabies/AboutPrematureBabies/PrematureLabourandBirth/Pages/Causes-and-Prevention-of-Premature-Birth.aspx fucking hell it's like your autistic or something....

Good, one less white person in the world

>basically A stillborn
>NOOOO WITH HELP OF OTHER PEOPLE MONEY WE CAN KEEP HIM ALIVE FOR EXTRA FEW YEARS REEEEEEEEEEEE

The disabled have no place in our societies. UK authorities did nothing wrong, they should extend euthanasia to trannies, fatties and other degenerates

>>131753381
>Hungary

>>131753608
the less white people, the less black people. Good thinking m8 right haha 4d chess

>>131753497
Which they would have done had the treatment not worked
You are right that it is selfish to keep things that cannot be saved alive (especially potatoes) but they still had a chance to fix it(albeit very small)
I work with some really fucked yo kids at a free children's hospital and see kids that are beyond fucked yet their parents try everything to give their kids a normal life for what little of it they have left.
The lengths people are willing to go to keep their children alive when there is literally no chance that they will live past a few years is astounding

>>131749805
>brain damaged at birth
Nothing of value was lost besides the poor thing would've never been normal.

>>131753350
>Until 2007 the only socialized medicine we had was Medicare(which is getting the hatchet soon)

No you dumb fuck, your socialized medicine is in the form of the ridiculous costs you pay that the hospital sets up to cover for the people they have to cover that they know they won't get a dime out of. These include a large portion of ER visits.

But not only do you get to pay for their ER visits, you also get to pay for the insurance and lawyer kikes who want their cut of the profits. You have the most inefficient type of social redistribution because there's a maximum of bloodsuckers at all levels.

> Yes you can, and it's expensive as fuck

It's not expensive, I have private insurance. Middle class people can easily afford it, most just don't because they don't really need it.

> and shit compared to what you can get in America for a fraction of the cost

This is just a lie based on you having no clue about how your system works or what things cost. The US consistently ranks lower than EU countries in quality of care. The ONLY thing you have is better care if you're 1% and up, willing to pay out the nose for it.

Pretty sure that's not you, so what you've got is higher costs for less care. Sucker.

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>>131752744
Must be frustrating, knowing you'd need a four tonne strap to do the same :/

>>131749805
What a waste of fucking money, just make a new one.

Eugenics would not be a mistake

inb4 most of /pol/ would not be here, that is a good thing

>>131751812
The parents raised the money for treatment.

>>131750938
What gives the parents the right to prolong their child's suffering?

The experts claim he's in pain, with no hope of a cure, and that he should be put out of his misery. The law is there to protect the victim, which is the child, not the parents, so the law is correct in this case.

>>131753305
there are many ways to kill someone, pulling the plug is one way to kill someone

It's not that i'm being a clickbaiter as some faggot said, it's the other way around. The left/globalists in their huge boner for killing the weak love to use euphemisms left and right for what is killing. The baby never told anyone he wanted to die so yeah you're just killing him no matter how much you want to sugarcoat it. We gotta call a space a spade.

>>131753407
Okay, who gets to decide what is "unnecessary pain" and what isn't? There are people who get stung by those insects that cause enormous pain and feel so bad they say they wanna chop off the stung body part. Is that unnecessary pain already to give them the needle?
>doctors are ethically obliged to kill when needed
The Orwellian Oath

>>131753551
>Stop pretending you know better.
I'm pretending fuckall, they found a doctor who said it was possible he might be fixed
By all definitions the English cucks here had no right to tell them they couldn't do it(except the part where English citizens in bongistan are actually peasents and have no rights to their own fate that the state does not allow)

>>131753050
meanwhile, seeing the shit state of healthcare in France (if you deny that, you know fuck all, and I then would sincerely wish you to experience it first hand), many, many, many long term diseases are the outcome of gross medical mistakes
so there's that...

Listen up Christtards:

>The doctor who would give experimental treatment to a baby who has a rare genetic condition has admitted the case was "uncharted territory".

>The American, who cannot be identified, said the therapy for Charlie Gard would be "treatment but not a cure".

>He said the therapy, which would be tried for six months, would provide a "small chance" of a meaningful improvement in Charlie's brain function.

>"[Charlie] may be able to interact. To smile. To look at objects," he said.

>The neurologist who would oversee the treatment told the court that while Charlie was in the "terminal stage" of his illness, treating him would be compassionate.

That's right, keeping a child in pain for 6 months just so he can MAYBE look at an object is """compassionate""".

Fuck off.

>>131749805
Wait i thought the free healthcare saves lives.

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>>131753350
>burger unironically defending America's health system

>>131753856

Forgot link like a retard.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-39478466

>>131751935
You're a woman aren't you?

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>>131751812
>raise £1.4 million
>tax money

Varg would know a thing or two about murder, wouldn't he?

>>131753723
>European healtchare is better than America's
You've taken to your brainwashing quite well

>>131753602
>>Literally does not know anything about what causes premature birth
Weak mother's genes is one.

>>131749805
muh braindead baby needs to life for 60 years, sucking up all the recourses and burdening everyone else

>MUH healthcares
>desperately wanted to go to the US for medical treatment
Literal pottery

>>131753912
>Defending the best healthcare system in the world
It's funny really, because even after our system has been gutted and raped over the past decade it's still better than what you cunts have
Kind of sad really

>>131753789
it's their child, their blood and they're trying to save his life, while the government/EU bureaucrats want to kill him

I think the question boils down to: does the child belong to the parents or the State?

>>131753830
>not exerting effort to keep someone alive is the same as killing them
Wew lad you better get busy, you're liable for a lot of starving kids who could be saved by your donation.

>>131754020
>Muh socialist state is only good for those we deem good for society
That's disgusting

>>131749805
kid was white

had to go

>>131750593
>He needs to be put out of his misery, much like the entire population of Brazil.

sadly the anglo is right.

>>131754073

See

>>131753856

There is NO CURE. He'll only suffer longer. The State is right to take away the kid from these abusive parents.

>>131754073
>while the government/EU bureaucrats want to kill him
he's already dead but lets just keep throwing money at him
that will keep him alive

>>131754222

Well it worked for all those celebrities with AIDS.

>>131754222
he clearly ain't dead if you need to pull the plug to get rid of him

>>131753856
>child in pain
is the child in pain though?
>"[Charlie] may be able to interact. To smile. To look at objects," he said.

I hope they move to the usa. Bless them if they try again .

>>131753991
See that's part of that not reading thing you have a nice link right in front of you full of actual information but instead you push it aside like a brain dead cuck and keep yelling weak genes like some sort of autistic battle cry seriously do you even know how genetics works that their really is no such thing as a weak gene after a couple thousand years of human evolution that what you do get are mutation that can cause irregularities and in no way shape or form effect gene strength or represent it or are you a fucking retard?

>>131753534
We have hundreds of thousands die from given wrong care in hospitals, and it is considered better than the EU average. Here they have to report they died from an infection, in other countries they can say whatever they want.

Nobody really cares, because old people are a money sink for both the state and their relatives, so they let them die and count their shekels. Makes me angry

>>131754354

No, he may only be able to do that after the experimental treatment. He's a vegetable right now.

And yes, various experts have confirmed he is likely in a lot of pain. Only the parents claim he is not.

>>131753912
>America's health system
our system is awesome, and is the best in the world. only poorfags and dumb europoors think poorly of it. get a job and get health insurance. easy.

>>131749805
>have a messed up kid
>realize how bad off it is
>want to take it elsewhere so someone can at least try something and possibly come up with a means of treating this problem in the future
>OY VEY GOYIM ARE YOU REALLY GOING TO ROB US OF ALL DOSE PRECIOUS STEM CELLS?

Europe at this point deserves to be over run by Islam
Europe deserves everything that happens to it

>>131750008
>brain damage
Yeah, no point keeping the kid alive.

>>131754289
Well they're rich to begin with, laws and regulations don't apply to rich people
>>131754296
>he clearly ain't dead
yet

>>131754073
It may be their child, but he's still a human being with rights of his own. Based on your logic, is it OK for parents to kill their children?

The doctors don't 'want' to kill the child either, but he's suffering, with no hope of improvement, therefore they want to prevent any unnecessary suffering.

>>131749805
>Shame on the UK judges allowing him to die, shameful, terrible decision.'
>Allowing him to die
They murdered the kid desu senpai>>131751722
>Socialized medicine does not financially have room to try and see if weakly born children can survive.
They don't even count such cases as infant mortality they count babies born and that die within something like a week as "still births".

It's why the comparison between infant mortality rates between the US and just about everywhere is absolutely absurd. The worst example being socialist retards that use Cuban infant mortality rates when the WHO didn't even verify the numbers provided by the Cuban government they just took their word for it.

>>131749805
Oh yaa let's just keep pumping money into a lost cause instead of having another baby.

>>131754516
The only way to deal with this problem is to euthanize potatoes. Christcucks need to get over it. You could raise 4 healthy normal children who still have brains off 1.5 million $.

>>131753852
The only thing I know is that if you're born poor and sick you get to live with a decent treatment and no debt in France.

In the US you either die or have a shitty treatment that cost more than in any other country and end up with a huge debt.

>>131754171
see >>131753830

>>131754131
I obviously lack the means to sustain those kids, but the baby in the discussion, his parents have raised £1.4million, that sounds enough to pay for a specialized ambulance, plane and experimental treatment in the US, don't you think?

I mean in this specific case the government just wants to get rid of this baby despite the parents having money to do whatever they want to try and treat their son. The government wants to pull the plug, fine, but the parents don't and they have money. I guess Theresa May & co would love for them to flush their baby down the toilet and donate the crowdfunding money to the muslim awareness month, but they don't seem to agree to that.

>>131754446
>>131753381
Why are you lying? Go back to 444! and write about how the border patrols are literally nazi deathsquads.

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>>131752620
Hahahaha no wonder France is so fucked. Muslim president within the next 3 election cycles, mark my words .

>>131750008
> post by this ID
kys faggot

>>131754366
People with weak genes are more susceptible to deceases mentioned in the link. Your point?...

>>131754718
>You could raise 4 healthy normal children who still have brains off 1.5 million $.
it's not your 1.5 milliom to make the decision with.

>>131754802
Zsindex was saying we have better numbers than the EU actually

Visit a hospital sometime, no wonder the nurses all go to work at Ikea instead

>>131754619
The issue is who decides what's "enough suffering"? That's a very vague, unclear thing and can be used to further the euthanasia agenda. Today it's this baby, tomorrow it's some elderly man who just broke his femur and the recovery is too expensive.

>>131749805
Useless eater

>>131754888
That's the only solution anyone who's not a mentally ill cuck would choose.

>>131754737
>French healthcare
>decent treatment
>no debt
full retard, the musical

>>131754131
>not exerting effort to keep someone alive is the same as killing them
Simply put denying the parents with the charitable funds provided by their community to attempt treatment like in this case is murder issued by a death warrant from the State.
Something that is beyond terrifying and is something straight out of a horror story about a horribly tyrannical government yet here you are defending it and making up an unrelated hypothetical as to why this real world case is acceptable.

>>131749805
FORCED GOVERNMENT DEATH PANELS CONFIRMED

>>131754957
No its not vague in the least. If you cannot get through the day without extensive outside help, you should be euthanized. End of story. Life is hard enough for those who do have brain already.

>>131751722
>I was born premsture in the early 90's and would have literally been put in a jar to die had I been born in Europe instead of the US.
Yes Darnell, that's exactly how uncontacted tribes of europoor treat premature babies
>comparing premature baby to one that's born with late stage terminal disease
On second thoughts that jar would suit you well

>>131754999
>That's the only solution anyone
anything that deprives and drains socialized health care of $$$ is ok with me. it's better spent on potato than rapefugees.

>>131749805
Is the 1.4M everything to compensate the state + potential treatment, or is it just treatment and they'll screw the NHS? (Rely on state to live, cannot pay back the state; state also gets to decide when to pull treatment)

>>131755031
Crippling life long illnesses are fully reimbursed in France, they're not in the US, that's a fact even a retard like you can't do anything about.

Now come up with facts and examples or keep embarrassing yourself.

>>131755175
>it's better spent on potato than rapefugees.
Says who? Ever heard about democracy?

>>131754888
>wasting money and giving them to Kike snake oil doctors is better than saving a child from excruciating agony by letting him pass

>>131755186
They were going to piss away a million dollars to Kikes in the US they got from other people on trying to keep alive a piece of dead meat.

>>131755080
>you should be euthanized
ha. this story is about state euthanization.
>you should stop using the gadsden flag.

>>131755175
It just deprived a bunch of American retards of their $$$ it seems. Now go back to whining about the lack of white babies and screeching how you want to impregnate the 5/10 brown 30 year old women whose pics get posted here.

>>131749805
>it should be allowed to force taxpayers to support non functional, braindead and otherwise dying human vegetables
Fuck off, commie scum.

>>131754718
>implying christian
>being so fedora you immediately go that route

W E W L A D
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W
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A
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Could've used the kid as an experiment like what's in OPs image, but nope, GOTTA KEEP DEM STEM CELLS RIGHT HERE GOYIM!

>>131754744
No you are saying refusing to provide care is the same as killing. It's not.

We don't need any more dead weight, they did the right thing. The parents were too close to the issue to see clearly.

The day I'm a brain damaged vegetable the government is welcome to pull the plug on me, you'd really like to """live""" like that?

>>131755285
>>it's better spent on potato than rapefugees.
>Says who? Ever heard about democracy?
nice b8.
rapefugees shouldn't be represented. they don't belong and destroy representative gov't..

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>>131755236
>fully reimbursed
through massive debt, you dumb commie
France, yes!
also, reimbursed doesn't mean diseases are treated even remotely properly in France (protip: they indeed aren't; France healthcare is (((free))), and thus utter shit)

>>131755370
I'd rather be a fedora if it means the head it cover actually contains a brain.

>>131749805
Do they get to keep the money?

>>131755479
>completely ignoring everything else said
>focuses on being fedoracore
>I'd rather be a fedora if it means the head it cover actually contains a brain.

I'm sorry, it's too late for you, sweetie.

>>131755304
>snake oil doctors
just because all europoor doctors are pooinloo migrants doesn't mean US doctors are shit merchants

>>131755080
and then this happens
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/8466996/Fearful-elderly-people-carry-anti-euthanasia-cards.html
this is part of the left's agenda to desensitize people to the idea of killing. The soviets were too hasty with the death squads, first we desensitize the population to the notion of killing, starting with the weak, children and elderly, and then we do some firing squads here and there. That's how you do it.

>>131749805
HURR DURR YEAH OKAY IT'S A LITTERAL VEGETABLE WHO WILL BE VERY EXPENSIVE FOR SOCIETY AND NECER BRING ANYTHING TO IT, BUT WE WANT OUR ALREADY FAILED CHILD TO RUIN OUR LIVES AND WASTE HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY FOR NOTHING

I fucking hate young parents with a passion

>>131754957
The medical experts, who are far more qualified than you have decided. Are you doubting the opinions of a wide range of doctor's, that have looked into this case?

Again, the law is protecting the rights of the child, to not have to undergo any prolonged or unnecessary suffering. The parents, as sad as a predicament that they find themselves in, do not have the right to allow their child to suffer.

>>131749805
Millions of children die every year due to malnutrition, war, etc. Not many of them get a court appeal. Even fewer will ever appear on mainstream news.

We care more about unborn fetuses and lives of dogs (which are literally subhuman) than actual humans these days.

>>131755324
>It just deprived a bunch of American $$$
we didn't notice cause we aren't poor
just stop poorfag

>>131755361
>State is overruling parents loaded with money who want to fuck off away from the UK and treat their kid in the US
you're the communist hans, it's like in Cuba where people aren't allowed to leave the country

>>131754936
I've been to a hospital recently, didn't have any problem, maybe some shitty hospital in the middle of nowhere is falling apart because the socialist built too many. Yes, there are certainly problems but it's not like getting to hospital is a death sentence like you and the other leftist seems to imply.

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>>131754999
They have the right to choose regardless that's the whole point in living in a free and functional society as the State institutions that would be needed to redress such "dumb decisions" will cause massive damage to society as we are seeing before our very eyes. Especially in Europe where these symptoms are much more acute

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>>131755809
a favela intellectual

>>131755400
Well you could have a statement signed by you that you'd rather be killed than be a vegetable, but in this case the parents agree and they have a shitload of money to try and save their son.

I don't get what you're saying by "we" they were going to leave the UK, right? I mean it doesn't sound sustainable to keep going back and forth between the two countries while their son is in the US. They wanted out.

>>131755609
No country has ever killed healthy children.

>>131755449
Ah, you finally outted yourself as a complete nutjob. Good.

>>131753324
>What is dysthanasia

>>131755654
>The medical experts, who are far more qualified than you have decided. Are you doubting the opinions of a wide range of doctor's, that have looked into this case?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4417920/Jack-Dunn-dies-burst-appendix-sent-home-E.html

>Jack Dunn, of Porth in Rhondda Cynon Taf, Wales, was sent to Royal Glamorgan Hospital on April 7 by GPs at a surgery near his home after they diagnosed a suspected appendicitis.

>But even though the teenager was unable to walk due to the excruciating pain, he was sent home from A&E that day.

>It has been claimed that he was not given any medication or any tests were run.

>His family put him to bed and periodically checked on him but when his father, Kieron, went to see him at 11pm that evening, he found his son had died.

Yeah, do you doubt doctors? It's just a little gas after all! They're medical experts that are incapable of being wrong, goyim!

>>131750593
But why wouldn't you let them try the experimental treatment the american doctors offered?

>>131755809
If a single cent that'a public money is spent on this genetic failure it must not be allowed. If they finance everything with their own money, which they won'r i don't care.
Parents should be sterilized anyways. No healthy human being produces such failures.

>>131755880
Keeping a potato alive isn't "free". It's a huge burden and a waste of resources.

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>>131756009
>be a deluded as fuck niggering commie
>y-y-y-you're the nutjob

>>131755983
China.

Holy shit how fucking dumb are you? You're a leaf, aren't you?

>>131749805
I understand that they feel that they have the right to keep it alive, but what about the child's rights? Does it feel pain? Can it even be considered a human being? And why keep it? It's not going to live long anyway. And if it does, can you really call it a life? Is this just for virtue signalling how "nice" they are for extending this child's non-life?

>>131755449
Gay

>>131755759
UN high commissioner of refugees please leave

>>131750144
> British health care system kills infant. Parents only hope is in the US.

>>131756198
When did China ever kill healthy children, retard? Post source.

>>131753551
Evolution is just a function of Gods will you faggot

>>131756145
http://www.lefigaro.fr/social/2016/01/13/09010-20160113ARTFIG00214-la-dette-sociale-de-la-france-en-quatre-chiffres.php

Educate yourself you living embarrassment.

>>131756319
Are you legit retarded or are you only 12 years old?

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>>131756244
At least, I'm not a commie.

>>131756334
ooga booga indeed

>>131753789
Why did the burger experts have no say in the matter? Isn't that slander to dismiss them as non-experts?

>>131749805
He'd be a vegetable, these are typical selfish, deluded parents who think he can have a normal life, and they'd get a huge wad of taxpayers money to keep him alive as long as they could. Time to let him go, it's not fair on the kid.

>>131756024
These are completely different situations. Are you honestly trying to claim that the doctors may have missed something, or have not run tests on the baby in question?

This is a case that has been through two court cases and that has been scrupulously looked over. To think that the doctors would be wrong in this particular case is laughable.

>>131756096
>>131756068
the parents raised £1.4million via crowdfunding, it was not the government's money that was going to keep the kid alive at all if they were allowed to leave the country to seek treatment in the US

>>131756240
So at which threshold of pain do the death squads come in to pull the plug? Are people safe if they get stung by wasps? What about people with migraines, are they in if they're on a wheelchair?

>>131756240
100% of these cases are a cuck father going along with the insane wishes of a grieving mother who was driven to madness by producing a potato. A mother would still try to hold onto a child even if it was a headless zombie, that's just hormones and instinct, in fact in the past mothers often would camp out with their children's corpses. It's the job of the husband to step in and end this madness.

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>>131755609
All for the good of "society" aka the State

The fact that such large swaths of people to the point of general consensus believe that the two are one in the same shows just how deep this socialist cancer has rotted Western Civilization built on classical liberalism and lead it to being the most prosperous society in human history and a very rare thing in human history. A genuine new way of thinking.

The 1.4m pounds given to that family voluntarily by their fellow countrymen to try and save their child is a perfect example of society functioning while the State issuing the child's death warrant is a perfect example of government pretending to be what a society is and horribly fucking it up.

>>131756570
>keep that kid alive
Aka keep the vegetable growing.

>>131756353
>Educate yourself
gee, I wonder how the disastrous French deathbeds have managed to amount to a 162.4G€ debt... do you think it may be through... debt?

>>131756096
>Keeping a potato alive isn't "free". It's a huge burden and a waste of resources.
only for social health faggots.
NHS is cancer

>>131756366
Great argument, dumbfuck. Post a source that shows China killing healthy children.

>>131749805
Oh but you can take in TEN THOUSAND SHITSKINS YOU FUCKING WEAPON

>>131749805
In germany health care is free.

Its mediocre because you have to wait literally a year for some kinds of Doctors.

If you have a problem with the blatter that needs to get checked you have to wait 200 years because of the infinite old people before you.

Germany had not enough doctors, before the refugee crisis, now we have extremely not enough doctors, because zero of the refugees were doctors, while 50% of them have some serious illness and get treated for free while never payed and never will pay a single cent tax in their lifetime.

>>131756542
They could have gone to America where we don't let the fucking government determine who lives and dies. Faggot commie get in the oven.

>>131756554
His point is that doctors are fallible and we shouldn't bow down to whatever they decide because they're just humans and don't know absolutely everything. The patient and his family also have a right to say fuck off we're looking for treatment elsewhere.

Or are you for a dictatorship of the so called medical authorities?

>>131756448
>will receive 1.4m
>totally no conflict of interest

>>131756570
They should have used to money to get a private hospital then. Instead, they expected the British taxpayer to support the potato, while American doctors got the donation money.

>>131749805
>UK Authorities
>European Court of Human Rights

Jesus fuck we can't leave fast enough

>>131756717
Google China one child act you helpless nigger I'm not spoon feeding you suck my dangle.

>>131756717
It's obviously referring to the one child policy and Chinks killing babies that weren't the preferred sex.

>>131756877
Post source of China killing healthy children. The 1 child policy just says you need to pay a fine tax for having more than 1 child, you 70 IQ nigger.

>>131756717
>Post a source that shows China killing healthy children
found the chink

>>131756542

Jesus fucking Christ, how do those boots taste?

>>131756911
Post source of China killing babies.

>>131752189

The Brits are human animals with no decency, no different than the pagans who would sacrifice their children to Ba'al and other gods. In America, the land of Freedom, no tax man can tell me who lives and who dies. We are not barbarian animals that leave our young to die. Britain deserves to be replaced by third world shitskins. Fucking animals, they're not even human. My heart goes out to the parents.

>>131756314

there is no hope in US the doctor or whoever told them there was a chance has since said it's now highly unlikely that the treatment will be a success. so... the best thing is to let the baby die. he's not being killed. or murdered, life support is being taken away and he won't be able to live on his own, therefore death, that's not killing that's nature. what kind of life is it to be indefinitely hooked up to a life support machine, not even being conscious of anything that happening.

>>131756877
>this nigger is seriously going to put a pro-life/ choice argument in a thread about state control of medicine allocation

>>131756848
this
(still curious who is actually supporting the child this far, how much does it cost and who is paying for it, just assuming the state cause it's UK and all)

>>131756766
Toppest of kek, in USA you can die of appendicitis if you don't have Christcucks donating to your health care kickstarter in time.

>>131757069
dying rooms

>>131757069
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_infanticide_in_China

>>131756634
So what, wasn't your problem with the taxpayers' money being spent? The parents want out of the UK, I'd like to hear one argument why they shouldn't be allowed to help their kid in any way they can elsewhere with their million pounds.

>>131756390
Atleast im not a liberal like you

>>131757183
> shitty orphanages in an other wise shitty 3rd world country is murder
Sure thing

>>131757240
> abortions
End yourself, I hope you produce nothing but potatoes.

>>131756807
The parents don't have the right though, how hard is that to grasp? The law is looking our for the rights of the child, if anything they're protecting his freedom. His freedom to not have to suffer.

If anyone is for dictatorship, then it's you in this case, since you believe parents have the right to do whatever they want to their children.

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>>131751245
Dude we can decide abbo has two b's at the drop of a hat and folks will run with it. Fuck we could say Aussie has only one "s" , the earth is flat, or that Kangaroos are make-believe. We'd capture the stupid and there's nothing you could do about it.

>d-death panels is a fictional reality that has nothing to do with our reality

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>>131757288
not like you'd need liberty in a communist hive, granted

>>131756554
>Are you honestly trying to claim that the doctors may have missed something, or have not run test
He's saying in both cases it isn't their right to choose and especially isn't their right to choose when the parents are going to pay for something on their own.

That's his point and you're only reinforcing his wider point against government medical care and doing things it has no business doing with everything you're saying.

>>131757390
Looks like someone's out of arguments they're straight to the ad hom.
>Hides flag in fear of bantz

>>131749805
Why put a baby through medical trials that will only prolong his suffering? I know it brings hope, but it's selfish as fuck.

>>131756807
baby's got a mitochondrial disease
which means every single cell in his body is fucked up in one of it's most essential components

there is no cure, there is no getting better and all of that doesn't even require a doctor to know, basic high school biology is sufficient

>>131757789
Because if no one tries any treatments how are we supposed to cure things?

Don't worry about it, if we get enough #prayforbaby on twitter, it shall be reborn with telepathic abilities.

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>>131750008
never change straya

>>131757175
Yeah if you're a poor nigger like you are

>>131757466
>freedom not to suffer
That's very unclear, people who have migraines suffer daily, some say they feel like their heads are about to explode. What's this freedom from suffering law about?

It's not like the parents are selling their baby into some pedo ring, they're fighting to give some treatment for their kid. Yes I believe in this case they should've been allowed to go after it since they got a lot of money and they've got the will to try and do something for their kid. I see it as seeking a second opinion when your first doctor didn't fill you with confidence.

I'd like to know if you think a certain amount of so called medical authorities should rule over societies. Maybe they have to go into some sort of anointing ceremony before they start passing life-and-death judgements on us feeble mortals.

>>131757781
It's a chink leaf, is there any surprise?

>>131757890

We test them on animals and the occasional hobo

>>131757789
>m-muh suffering

Life is suffering you dumb fuck. Jesus Christ the human race is full of the biggest pussies on earth. We need a world war or a plague or something to cull this fucking weakness.

>>131757306
>Sure thing
the only thing that annoys me about your post is the flag. you aren't worthy of gadsden you commie.

>>131757837
he's a br, probably never been to friggen elementary school let alone high school

>>131749805
It's the gov paying for the healthcare. This is what happens if you have the gov involved.

>>131757283
Already told you, if not a single cent from public budget is spent on this biological waste then i don't care.
If the parents want to keep this abomination alive they should be forced to resign from all public services.

>>131757781
>flip debates
The infanticide and mainly abortions, is done by the people and their questionable culture
The state is for once, is largely blameless
Even the state didn't expect the people to be so shitty and implemented countermeasures

>>131753356
Not an argument burger.

>>131756047
Because he believes it's better if someone else makes decisions.

>>131757890
there's some things we can't cure
there's no cure for decapitation, there's no cure for swallowing a grenade and there's no cure for every cell in your body being fucked up in such a profound way getting cancer would actually improve your survival rate

>>131758125
Just like the questionable Brit culture giving up their freedoms for the state.

>>131752365
Then why not just kill yourself?

>>131758021
the thing with terminal patients, they kinda become test subjects of sorts with experimental treatments, but those kinds of things may lead to great discovery that save many lives in the future, they have money and want to fight for their son's life, I don't see the issue

>>131758648
the "treatment" is a sham
there is no way to fix a genetic mitochondrial disease

>>131749805
>socialized healthcare
>pissed when government makes a decision about their healthcare.

The baby was deaf, blind, brain damaged, and had to be drip fed.

This was the right decision.

So /pol/ thinks eugenics should only apply to niggers and spics but living human defects that require millions dollars worth of doubtful therapies can get a pass?

>>131753407
If true this was the correct decision.
It's a horrible thing but the parents need to accept the reality of the situation and move on.

Let the poor little bugger die, he's never going to have a life, just be some pity magnet for his insane parents.

Kids got brain damage and needs life support, and we all know the (((experimental trials))) in America are just expensive cash grabs. Best he gets is a lifetime staring at the ceiling in a shitty nappy.

Its time to let go.

>>131749805
And why should we pump tax payer money into keeping a genetic abberation alive? If they want to pay for it themselves, I'm fine with it. That's an individual's right. But I can't support the constantly keeping alive of chanceless infants that will need care for the rest of their lives.

If we pursued such a policy with a bit more vehemence, we'd also be letting a lot of inbred immigrants die, instead of giving them expensive treatment.

>>131758879
people must have said the same shit about countless diseases before there was a cure or at least a treatment to them, you never know, I won't pretend the baby gets cured overnight, but you never know

A lot of discoveries happen by people willing to try shit that looked crazy. One of the pioneers of vaccines was like that, he injected it on himself and on his sons as a maverick way to show it worked. Today he would've been jailed for child abuse of course.

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>>131749805
Weak children should be thrown from a cliff during their first five days of life.

>>131757960
It's called human rights. You're also grasping at straws if you think having migraines is similar to this poor child's situation. #1 Difference - Migraine sufferers are still able to make conscious decision s.

This child can't decide for himself, since he's A: a child, and B: brain damaged. But someone has to decide what's best for him right? And who's the best option? A group of well educated doctor's, who although, yes, potentially fallible, you'd imagine would know and understand much more about the child's condition that anyone else. OR would you choose the parents, who are just as fallible as the doctors, with the added bonus of being potentially selfish due to emotional attachment? Hmm, seems a pretty easy decision to me...

>>131749805
At the very least, this would've benefitted medical science for future generations. Fucking eternal anglos.

>>131750144
Ask babies require "life support". If parents refuse to feed their baby, are they just letting it "kill itself"?

No. They're killing it you idiot.

>>131759741
>muh human rights
Intangible feefee bullshit.
Anything you want in life is purchased with sweat or blood. Nothing is free.

>>131759446
please look up what the mitochondrion is
this isn't some disease that's attacking the baby, this isn't even something like cancer where it's just a small percentage of cells that are fucking it up for the rest

it is literally EVERY SINGLE CELL in the baby's body that isn't working properly

to "cure" the baby you'd have to go and somehow replace the mitochondria in every single one of his cells

by the time we could actually do something as ridiculous like that we wouldn't have to because we could instead simply upload it's mind into the interdimensional supercomputer that contains all of humanity instead.

And even if you were to perform a literal miracle THE DAMN BABY STILL HAS MASSIVE BRAIN DAMAGE

>>131753723
>consistently ranks lower
Yea, taking the average of care

Any thing above the average and the United States blows you fucking idiots away

Without the United States, where will people flee to to get decent care?

>>131751045
Only idiots said that. If the authorities take full responsibility for your life, health, and well being, it logically does that they claim full authority over your life. There's no way around it. They can't ensure your well being if they let you do what you want with your life and health.
Government provided "universal" healthcare <> Self authority over life and health
Pick one.

>>131759741
What human rights? Are we talking about the UN's ones, that institution that has plenty of crimes on its back? You should check out how many UN representatives are involved in pedophilia, for one.
So you think a group can't have an ulterior agenda? A group is always superior to the parents when deciding a children's life? Sounds like someone arguing for communism, the State always knows best, they also own the children of the population of course. Children should denounce the crimes of their parents to the State.

>>131759446
No, again, you're grasping. We do know. Just like we know if someone has their head blown off by a shotgun, there's no hope of fixing them.

This child can't be cured, he's damaged beyond repair.

>>131753789
>bong thinks the state has more right to decide if someone's kid lives or dies than the parents
If anybody thought the UK was "waking up because of benefit, hopefully you retards can see how Orwellian they actually are

>>131753856
>the state should decide whether or not somebody is allowed 6 more months to live
Lol

>>131759552
Yea but it should be the parents decision to do so

>>131749805
oh damn, what will they do with the 1.4 mill now?

I can't decide which side I'm on. baby is defective, but it's their property and their donated money

>>131751536
Many people who are declared terminally ill ultimately recover, you idiot. Doctors are not God, there really are unexplainable recoveries on a frequent basis. Neither you, me, nor a doctor have a right to tell a parent not to fight for any chance of their child's life.

Socialized medicine. Not even once.

Fucking awful. I know there is a huge debate between quality of life and quantity of life but the family should be the ones to decide that not the Fucking government. The government has no clue what's best for the family. They should only intervene if the family is intentionally hurting the child or they are doing treatments which no doctors can approve of. All this does is weaken the family structure and leave the big decision to Big Brother. Get ready for death panels, mandatory suicide, and eugenics

>>131751624
>Who gives the parents the right.
Nature or God.

>>131751689
>There's a lot of ethics in medicine
sure, that's why the majority of boys in america are dick snipped, and the 900 are murdered through abortion every day

>>131749805
Well why did they want to take him to America? Doesn't the UK have (((free healthcare)))?

>>131760565
>They should only intervene if the family is intentionally hurting the child
In this case they are

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>>131750593
Slippery slope but wouldn't expect anything less from a sub-human non-american.

you are eventually going to die, right? May as well just kill you now. I mean, you were always going to die in the end, afterall.

>>131752083
bazoopa

>>131759741
>it's called human rights
>except right to life
>except parental rights
Lol, the only reason the state doesn't take children away from their parents and raise them from birth in the UK is because it would be too expensive. I'm confident you guys will get there though

>>131749805
Remember folks. Death panels aren't real.

>>131760530
there are some things we can quite reasonably say you won't recover from
and what this baby's suffering from is on that list south of things like "falling into an active volcano"

>>131760108
I know what that is. I'm just not willing to say I know everything about that condition and that there can't be some breakthrough in making life for people with that condition better. You are doing that, though, condemning anyone with that shit to death because of course, we'll never ever discover anything to treat it. I still haven't gotten to that god-like omniscience like you.

>>131760268
You can always say the ones offering experimental treatment are crooks who just want money, but ultimately it's the parents' million pounds and not mine, and I don't think anyone should object to their wish to treat their kid. Since arguing for value of life is lost on many, I say some good can come out of people investing in experimental treatment, maybe even for other diseases out of it. In order to discover not only cures, but treatments that improve the quality of life of people with certain conditions, you kinda need an attitude like the ones from those parents.

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>>131751245
You're so special you get two Bs.

>>131752112
Yep. He would never use that argument in support of any other position.

How long until the UK will literally reach Equilibrium tier?

>>131760737
Life typically trumps pain, or it's the patients decision

Since the parents are the lawful caretakers of the child, it's their decision

Except in the UK the state gets to decide who lives and who dies

>>131760829
>is rather die than suffer
Good for you, you're entitled to your opinion

The parents should be entitled to theirs

>>131760737

They want to save the child and give him some sort of cure. They're intentions are good and in this case just. What I'm talking about is when a family intentionally puts someone through treatments just to cause them pain. That's a no-no.

>>131761220
I'd say keeping a creature alive that is mentally incapable of doing anything but feeling pain is pretty much the definition of Evil

>>131761370
Sounds like an opinion
>old person in similar pain
>can choose to stay alive and try to get treatment
>parents are the surrogate for the child's decision-making in same countries
>can't make the same decision as the old person
It doesn't matter what you or I think. I'd let the child die as well, or at least I think I would

>>131761579
Sane*

>>131760829
Any time someone is declared terminal, you can reasonably say they won't recover. Even in the midst hopeless cases, however, there are still freak recoveries.

>>131760782
>If you aren't useful to me ("society" "the state"), then why let you live.
This is where it's all headed. Communists, and totalitarian eugenicists are literally psychopaths.

>>131761370

Then go to a nursing home and help the alzheimer's patients, the frail and old, the ones long forgotten by their families. They are in much pain what have you done to help your fellow man out? Or will you leave that to the government too?

>>131760323
I'm sorry, but you're the one being retarded. As I said in another post, if anything, then this is the government and laws defending the individual rights and freedoms of the child. His right to not have to unnecessarily suffer. If you can't see that, then you're blind.

It's almost like you believe the government is a mindless, heartless entity, all to itself. When it's simply people like you and me, who have made the decision whether to keep this child on life support or not. And it's correct decision.

The government also did not give this child a death sentence, life did. They simply want to allow him to go with some dignity. If they could save him, then they would.

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>>131761874
I was told this is a great book about communists & psychopathy, haven't read it yet

>>131753108
no you stupid drongo burger, the whole country calls them abo's not abbos

>>131759925
The Satanism inherent to secularism on full display, folks. In this guy's head your life has no inherent value or worth unless it benefits him or something he arbitrarily cares about.

The horrors of the Soviet Union will be repeated on a global scale. This time few will oppose, and the horror will be on an unbelievable scale.

>>131762253
The End is nigh, brother.

>>131762026

The family should be the ones to decide that not government. Next you'll be saying that old people are unable to make a decision about their care and should be euthanized.

>>131762253
Catholic or protestant?

>>131762026
>His right to not have to unnecessarily suffer
just explain this shit in detail, or else we'll start killing anyone who becomes dependent on others and can't really communicate on the basis of MUH SUFFERING

I mean this already happens today with doctors who have as a first recommendation for any comatose patient is to kill.