PAGANISM GENERAL

>Please no shitstorm edition.

>>131707526
>Anonymous (ID: 96o7uEWK) 06/28/17(Wed)21:33:42 No.131707526
Hopefully, today is the edition of the wanderer!!!

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Oh yeess

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the birth of Balder, the bright - the return of a world that was woefully lost

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>>131707051
If it's all about ancestors, what would an American like me be? Wouldn't America be Christian if anything?

>>131707677
What's your backround?

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>>131707051

>>131707747
Anglo, traced my family to Scotland and all the other last names in my family are English.

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>>131708065
You are celtic. Embrace it!

>>131707051
can you tell me about Lugh and the Lughnasadh?

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>>131708182
All my family have been Christian though. I feel a close connection with it.

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>>131708065
>Anglo, traced my family to Scotland and all the other last names in my family are English.
Then Celtic paganism would be you're best bet, check the links out, join the discord as well. This is a good starting place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuatha_D%C3%A9_Danann

>>131708250
He is the same god as Wotan, which is good because today is the day of the wanderer. He is the god of many things, the most important of which is Travel, knowledge, and Arts. He often wanders the physical realm, usually in nature. Some cultures such as the Germanics rever him as king of the Gods.

>>131709128
i thought the lughnasadh happened in august 1st?

>>131707526
don't shy from battle

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>>131707051
Why do Pagans like Tolkien despite him being a Christian and writing Christian stories?

>>131709218
>lughnasadh
Oh that's a holiday celebrating the harvest season which starts in august.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lughnasadh

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>>131709555
He was a Christian but LOTR takes a lot from Pagan stories and traditon. Ex. Gandalf is a depiction of Wotan the wanderer.

>Pic related, Wotan

>>131709555
because pagans love Christian art about paganism.

A look at any "pagan" thread will show you that all they have is Christianity to depend on.

>>131709555
>in the golden dawn
>christian
topkek. dumb cuck

>>131709745
Everything in LOTR is a direct copy of Norse Mythology.

>>131709555
i think because the central story is christian related but everything else (races like elves and dwarves and hobbits, groves, wise talking trees, old wanderes in grey robes etc) are pagan-ish. Just like european christianity.

>>131708383
>All my family have been Christian though
>my ancestral lineage only goes back a little over 1000 years

You have tens of thousands of years worth of European ancestry

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>>131710580
This is true, but from my personal life and my family as far as I can trace back have been Christian. Christianity has always been apart of my life.

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>>131707051

>Vargautist promo thread

>>131710864
You can still enjoy the myths as a christian. I do. Especially the greek, but also the germanic.

>>131707677
Your ancestry doesn't suddenly change when you migrate. Aryans have migrated for thousands of years and retained their traditions while doing so.

>>131710864
Consider if your descendants convert to Islam.
One day one of them will want to embrace his heritage, but he will not be sure about leaving Islam because it's all he's ever known.
You're in a similar situation.

>>131712895
He'd most likely never know his ancestry because Islam erases the past.

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>>131713166
>the old gods are not forgotten
Literally what,

>>131713249
Ironic because the Christian God traces his roots to Sumer, the first civilization.

>>131713028
>Islam erases the past
just like christianity

>>131713811
See its funny because Christians preserved the past via writings.

>>131713729
what

>>131713811
>just like christianity
Funny because Christian scholars are the only reason we even know what paganism is. Try again.

>>131714498
Bibles earliest stories are Sumerian

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>>131713811
You can thank lutheran bishop brynjolfur sveinsson for preserving sæmund's edda.

>>131714705
and?

>>131714794
Its ironic that it says "the old gods" when they are all relatively new to El.

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Here is an effortpost worth reading

In proto-norse the brothers Wódin, Wili and Wé (Odin, Vili and Vé) were the ones who slee the giant Ymir and ushered in the age of humans and the Æsir.

Proto-Indo European traditions hold that all of the gods, Æsir, Vanir, Olympian or otherwise are all representations of the same divinity, with the Sky Father (Diu, Ziu, Zeus, Ziupeter, Tiu, Tyr) as the "noble god" and the most sacred representation of the divinity. More on this later.

As aspects of the divine Odin, Vili and Vé's names come from the root words, and are aspects of inspiration, will and spiritual power (and nobility) respectfully. Therefore as a triad of worship, Odin was the means to knowledge and prayer to the divine, Vili was the representation of the divine's Will to fill someone with ambition and diligence, and Vé was the representation of the mysterious sacredness and power of the divine.

Roman Christianity follows the same tradition, denying the worship of the same divinity of the semite, instead for a worship of the european Triad. The Son, who fills the same role as Odin, a medium through which the mortal may access the divine (and who was also sacrified with a spear and a tree). The Holy Spirit is Vili, the force of the divine to inspire a mortal, and the Father is Vé, the mysterious sanctity and power of the divine. The name of God in Latin, as we all know, is Deus. This word has the same root from which Zeus and Tyr derive their names, as mentioned above, in favour of the semitic names of Yahweh or Jehovah.

Furthermore, aryan and particularly slavic and germanic religion upholds a typical class system. The three classes each represented with a god.
>The nobles (Odin/Perun/Apollo/Mercury),
>the preachers (Tyr/Radegast/Zeus/Jupiter),
>the workers (Thor/Veles/Dionysios/Dionysius)

[CONT...]

>>131715397
> Roman Christianity

Not Christianity at all then

>>131713811
Not to the degree Islam does, besides it is true that plenty of Christian scholars and monks have preserved enough of old European traditions and myths for us to enjoy today. Also much of those traditions merged with Christianity and survived that way.

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>>131707051
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU8ANPCZBQ8

>>131715397
Weren't Zeus, Hades and Poseidon the major figures in the Titanomachy to take down Kronos? really makes you think

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>>131715397
When europe largely accepted christianity, three institutions were propagated during the Carolingian Rennaissance to keep society European. The Nobility, who would fight, rule and provide moral example for the nation; the clergy who facilitated the bond between the morals and the divine and the peasantry who would grow food, trade and manufacture objects for the society.

This new structure echoed pagan societal structure, but with an overarching belief set and institutionalized path to the divinity through the Deus Triad, it was a centralized way of preserving european culture and aryan divinity while the continent suffered heavy semitic cultural influence.

The decline of this structure after the French Revolution, acceptance of Democracy in many places and its collapse under communism is the worst thing to possibly happen to European culture. In a democracy the Clergy becomes irrelevant, Nobility disappears completely and only the worker exists, to rule themself. It makes sense then that the worker, whose life is mainly material, loses their link to the divine and sinks further and further into corrupt materialism.

Whether Pagan or Christian, we both worship the same divinity, both hold the interests of our races at heart and must both recognize the evil that democracy does to our people. Arguing amongst each other as "barbarians" or "worshipping the kike on a stick" just divides us and plays into (((their))) hands.

>>131716446
>both hold the interests of our races at heart
thats not true

>>131707051
Elverum - Praising the Alföðr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44OJ8VzkwME

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>>131716376
Yeah all brothers like Odin, Vili and Vé too. Thats why romans didnt try to proseletize in most conquered lands, as they knew that the local "barbarians" worshipped the same fundamental divinity as they did.

It was only in the middle east that they tried to change their culture and religions to a more latinized/hellenized form, as the semitic divinity is of a completely different nature to the european divine.

>>131716682
If you're talking about that retard jesuit calling himself pope at the moment, then I agree. He is an agent and he needs to die.

Put varg's face in the middle of that swastika, colorize the picture and then it's perfect

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what do you guys think of a semitic pagan like myself? Lebanese but worshipping the old canaanite/phoenician gods and goddesses of my ancient ancestors, pic related largest Roman temple on Earth in City of the Sun God, Lebanon: Temple of Jupiter

>>131707051
So far as our existence with Christianity, I think Varg and others are too gloom and doom. Don't mind the Deus Vult filthy pagan stuff. They won't do it to the Muslims, it's an empty threat, not worth your time. Better we repeat Tours and Varangians anyway.

Heathen question tough. Why is it so impossible to explain tribalism, which really is greatly at the center of heathenry, to libertarians? It's implied through the language, like the concept of yard, it's a repeated theme in the Sagas, but I've had them goin to fits and have 0 counter arguments or examples.

>>131715397
>>131716446
Excellent posts
Do you have any sources to do further reading?

>>131716682
I've seen an equal amount of pagans cuck out racially as Christians, I think the difference is we just have better arguments, since we don't view random people as brother and sisters through religion.

>>131717108
A very noble action to try to revitalize your roots. Such a pity that the muslims only let the Kaaba intact.

>>131716824
It's funny you say that. Tacitus's ethnography of the Germanic people specifically describes them as worshiping Mars and Jupiter which seemed strange to me at first glance.
It makes much more sense when reading from the perspective of a Roman who believes the Germanic gods are the same as his own except in name.

>>131717108
lol you post this temple every day man! its nice but you post it every day!
Have you been to Athens?

>>131717108
If you can interface with divinity using these gods than you should. I have a feeling you will be able to.

>>131717362
not right off the top of my head, but a good thing to research on the matter is Comparative Proto-Indo-European theory.

A good youtuber who sometimes discusses the theory is a pagan history academic on the channel Survive the Jive. His channel is centered around Aryan identity, religion, mysticism and abandonment of the corrupt material swamp we all live in.

>>131707677
yes while Europeans can honor their ancestors by being pagan i believe the best way to do so as an American mutt is to embrace Christianity
unless you are full german or nordic or italian or something then i advise you to embrace Christianity

>>131717284
>it so impossible to explain tribalism,
Make a more concise question, don't exactly know what answer you want

>>131717362
Read a book called The Germanization of Medieval Christianity. It's not a pro or anti anything, but it's a scholarly look at what actually happened. These traditions can be as small as leaving something on a person's grave, which was a pagan gifting cycle to your dead relatives for luck. Christians don't do this in the proper context, but they repeat these themes. Even when they say "I know my dad's watching over me"

>>131709745
Why do burgers spell Odin "Wodan"?

>>131717783
those are just linguistic groups. Every european people is a bit of the others.

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>>131718109
>Why do burgers spell Odin "Wodan"?
??? They're many different names.

>>131717851
Why do religious and cultural concepts of tribalism turn libertarians in to children with fingers in thier ears? Even some of those fluffy bunny lefty "pagans" get the concept, but these guys just break down. I'm out of ideas on the arguments, I've exhausted them all.

>>131717108
All god only Christ cucks get bent out of shape about what unproven thing people believe in. As long as your not a pedo, wive beater like the mudslimes. Its funny because I doubt Christ would really care, he would just try to teach you not berate people to covert.

>>131718109
Why do Germans call Thor Donar? Relax, my dude. Some mix up Orlog with Urd, but the concept is there.

>>131718109
>Odin, Wodan, Wodin, Wotan, Wotanaz, Wotaz, etc
all the same guy, Odin is just the Scandi spelling, just like how Thor is Thuner or Thur, Tyr is Tiu, etc.

That's where the english words for the says of the week come from,
>Tuesday = Tiu's Day,
>Wednesday = Wodan's day,
>Thursday = Thuner's Day.

>>131718249
Burgernaziwhatthefuck? There is only one!

>>131709555
He was about stuff from both man.

>>131717108
How similar do you suppose you are to your ancestors who worshiped these gods?
I hope you haven't been tainted by Arab migration.

>>131718109
I think it 's old engish.
"From Old English Wōden, from Proto-Germanic *Wōdanaz. Cognate to the doublet Odin, borrowed from Old Norse, ultimately from the same source."

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>>131718122
but there are specific pagan gods for different European people
how can I an American mutt of different European backgrounds pick one
if i were to pick multiple groups of gods it would be disingenuous
therefore the only logical conclusion is to embrace Christianity as that is what America was founded on

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>>131714598
>>131714732
>christianity replaced paganism
>let's thank christianity for preserving paganism
cucks

>>131718444
I know in Danish it is:
Tirsdag (Tyr)
Onsdag (Odin)
Torsdag (Tor)
Fredag (Frigg)

I just hate burgers larping as scandi pagans

>>131718611
Nah, the logical conclusion is to pick the one you like most and go with it.

>>131718302
Liberitarians are like free for all, they have no concepts of Purity, Culture, Collective etc. Pagans are a collective, we think for the good of the group while libertarians are individualists. This is why Libertarians and Pagans are at odds with each other.

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>>131718611
Your choice, but in the end european ancient tradition is about the spirits and gods of the forest. whoever they are in europe, they communicate through the european people and european nature and historically they derive from the same indo-european tradition so it doesn't make much difference if you are a mutt as long as you are of european blood.

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>>131718792
it's a bit of a gap to jump isn't it. It's because us colonials have a harder time creating a link to our ancestors, as our land isn't particularly sacred to us.

It's like feeling homesick but not knowing where your home is.

>>131718792
I think maybe it's time to aim your frustration at the things that will destroy you instead of being a cunt, but what do I know. You asked a question, we knew the answer, and you finally just admit that your just going to purity spiral anyway, so good on you for being honest I guess.

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>>131718810
Christianity is what I was raised on and is the religion of my forefathers
for a time I gave up on it but I came back to the light after deep consideration
I have chosen Christianity

>>131718972
I've told them that rejecting collective and going in for hyper-individualism makes them decidedly not pagan at all.

>>131707051
Reminder: Christianity was the logical end conclusion for the Pagan societies of Europe, and for 1800 years was vehemently anti-Semitic until the enlightenment fucked it all up.

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>>131719130
Who cares about their ancestors? They ded

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>>131718611
That's right buddy. You will see the lord in the throneroom on that day. Never give up your faith. You can still get the charge from studying the knowledge of the old myths though. You can still celebrate the cycles of time like the equinoxes and solstices. It's great.

>>131719309
>going in for hyper-individualism makes them decidedly not pagan at all.
Yeah Libertarianism and Pagan don't go together.

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Ive recently been studying into anglo-saxon and celtic pre christian religions as a way of learning about my heritage and embracing my ancestors spirituality.

However upon discovering that they are indeed both very diffrent but at the same time very simmilar, how would one go about venerating my mixed european heritage?
Should i...
>pick one that relates to me on a more deeper spiritual level?
>encorporate parts of both into my way of life?
>Follow anglo-saxon paganism as i was born in England and have blood ties to english soil?
>Decide to follow celtic as more of my blood line is from Scotland and Ireland?
>Or follow a completly diffrent path such as Germanic or Nordic?

>>131719285
Good for you. Doesn't mean your argument is good, but I've stopped caring about swiping at Christians anymore. Waste of time, I'd rather we put things aside and, ya know, do something about the world's fastest growing religion.

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>>131719428
without our ancestor's hard work in creating a future for us, our societies wouldn't exist. You should thank them some day, Carl.

>>131719428
Well, for people who aren't nihilistic turds, they mean a lot to us. There's a reason why how people viewed and treated thier dead was around before the written word. Its in our ethos, and there are spiritual connection we have with them via Wyrd and Orlog.

stop it, get some help

>>131707051
You know Thunor's symbol is a swastika

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>>131718611
Imagine a man and a woman from two different tribes get married. They follow different gods. What gods do their children revere?
In a patriarchal society, the children will follow the father's gods.
If this tradition was maintained, you would revere the same gods as your most ancient grandfathers. Thankfully you know exactly where your most ancient grandfathers came from because you have a last name.
So for American mutts, find the origin of your last name and follow the gods of those people.

>>131719551
they both worship the same ultimate divinity that the slavs, the norse, the scythians and even the Hindus do. It really doesn't matter to you, find whichever speaks to you the most.

If at any point it feels LARP-y, it's because you can't make a proper cultural connection to it in our urban, materialist, corrupt world. In that case try to better yourself physically and mentally before yo do spiritually. It was real frustrating for me before I found any kind of spirituality and it probably will be for you too.

Learning your history helps a lot, I found.

>>131719927
>You know Thunor's symbol is a swastika
In the Germanic Iron Age, the swastika was the symbol of Wodan

>>131719927
reverse swastika tho, at least as I know it in the anglo-saxon sense.

>>131719285
I was too raised on christiniaty and my family is deeply religious. I always went too church for the mass on my on without anyone telling me too, even in the "rebel years" of adolescence. I still keep my rosary safe today. But through much consideration, i reached to the conclusion that the european homeland and the european blood and tradition are much more of a heaven than anywhere else, even an otherdimensionally paradise. Since (some would differ) that in european paganism there is a notion of a "coming back" (reincarnation), one would always return home, so it is the paradise that must be protected. But i really don't mind what religion europeans find to be their valued heritage, as long as they see the divinity in it and are ready to protect what is ours.

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>>131719596
I can get behind this wholeheartedly
no sense in brothers fighting brothers
we must join forces to fight against the true threat
>>131719456
yes i agree while I follow Jesus that does not mean I cannot relish in the glory of nature

>>131719551
This would also apply to you, I think
>>131719936
If your last name is Anglo, go with the Anglo gods. If it's Celtic, be a druid.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFCixLn9qRw

>>131719551
Scotland you should still go with Germanic. They are just as Germanic as England and that is the culture that survived.

>>131720303
a lot of typos with "to" and "too"

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>>131719807
I guess but you have no connection to them. You do not live how they lived, you do not live where they lived. Scandinavia today is nothing like Scandinavia a thousand years ago, it's better.

>>131720361
Agreed, and I've seen this happening with pagans and Christians more and more. Its a good thing. Christians still think the old mythos and Varangians is cool, and I honestly would enjoy seeing more Templars flags at protests and such.

>>131720005
Thanks and yes your right without a doubt, if it wasnt for me reading about my peoples history i would have probbly joined the nihlistic marxist masses not caring for the destruction of my people and embracing cultral enrichment.

However now I truly understand our purpose in life and that is to continue the memory of our ancestors, and to bring honour to this life by living life in such a way that you will be talked about in death for the deeds you did.
For men in death are not talked about because of their materialistic riches but because of what they did and how it affected every one around them.

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>>131719936
the meaning of my last name is a direct reference to the christian church

>>131720787
We're talking about the dead and bloodlines here. No one is saying Scandinavia should reflect a 500AD village. My grandfather was from Norway, you're missing the pagan concept of bloodlines and ancestry. Land ownership and location doesn't effect this.

>>131720843
funny you bring up Templars.

Their famous battle cry, "Deus Vult," as I mentioned above in my autismposts, references the ancient Sky Father Diu (Deus, Ziu, Zeus, Jupiter, Tiu, Tyr, Etc). They fought for Europe against the Semitic menace more than they did for their theology.

The muslim and jew are two sides of the same coin. What they see as divine and sacred is objectively separate from what Europeans do.

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henlo heathens :-)

>>131721103
>For men in death are not talked about because of their materialistic riches but because of what they did and how it affected every one around them.
absolutely right, and it doesn't even have to be in a "thousands of people will remember me" way. As long as you leave a good impression on and provide for your children, grandchild and family, you have done your duty to the divine.

>>131721142
Well it's no secret that the pagans converted to Christianity at some point. The country of origin of your last name would indicate where your oldest grandfathers are from. Whatever gods worshiped in this area would be the gods you worship now had Christianity not existed.

>>131721156
No one in Scandinavia cares about your bloodline. No Scandinavian considers an American fascist with a Norwegian grandfather Scandinavian. Do you understand that?

>>131707051
As a Roman Catholic, I approve of white neopaganism.

We will hold off the kebabs with crusades while you hit them with lightning raids.

>>131720371
Indeed so it does imply so i should simply trace back my patriarchal ancestry which is that of anglo-saxons.
Just as that of my great nan who was a protestant who married a catholic so their siblings were brought up catholic.

>>131721622
It's a good thing nobody cares what a man who let his daughter get raped by Arabs for political correctness thinks, then.

>>131721770
Hitler's a pagan, though.

>>131721856
No a deist. He thought Himmler's beliefs were silly

>>131720567
No English, Scotts, and Irish are all celtic, they're not Germanic genetically.

>>131721856
This guy is right >>131721903
It always seemed to me Hitler didn't really care either way and played up whatever side was most advantageous at the time.

>>131721903
This poem was written by Adolf Hitler in 1915, while he was fighting in World War I.

I often go on bitter nights
To Wodan’s oak in the quiet glade
With dark powers to weave a union –
The moonlight showing me the runic spell
And all who are full of impudence during the day
Are made small by the magic formula!
They draw shining steel – but instead of going into combat,
They solidify into stalagmites.
Thus the wrong ones separate from the genuine ones –
I reach into a nest of words
Then give to the good and fair
With my formula blessings and prosperity.
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>>131721903
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>>131722161
Orly?

>>131707051
I'm half celtic (welsh) and half slavic (polish).
Am I allowed to be pagan, or am I a mixed mongrel? Which culture am I supposed to honor?

>>131721625
same

so should i follow the type of paganism that i have most of my ancestry from or should i follow the irish one because my last name is irish and i heard its suppossed to be patrilineal

>>131721622
I don't care what the Scandinavia court of public opinion thinks. That's part of being an adult, and a pagan. We don't care about your opinion when you personally can't effect us. That being said, your projecting your views on to, mainly, 4 whole countries. I don't think they even think about it much.

>>131722588
Which half is your paternal half?
>>131722651
I say go with the patrilineal, but understand that it's still a personal choice.

>>131722249
By that logic anyone that wrote about roman gods was a roman pagan.
But this is one of the reasons I like Himmler better than Hitler

>>131707051
>PAGANISM GENERAL

LARPEDY LARPEDY LARP LARP

>>131722161
Maybe, but culturally they are way more Germanic.
And that is what this is really about

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Jews BTFO

>>131722588
That's not a mongrel since they are both Aryan cultures. The one that's you're paternal line.
>>131723164
They really should be Celtic pagan, it's the absolute majority of their ancestors. Why would they worship a culture that wasn't their own. If your talking about the modern English culture than yeah but that isn't something were trying to preserve in the first place.

>>131723635
True. I'm personally probably as German as English/Scottish so I could really choose either.

>>131722588
Its supposed to be patriarchal in terms that the father would be domminant when passing down spirituailty to his children, its a tradition thats been done for thousands of years and is the natural hierachal order of things as father is the head of the house. just as men's second names are passed on to their betrothed when they are married its a matter of tradition.

i would like to move to europe in the future (i am completely white), so the way it works with the eu is that if i can get citizenship in one country i could go live in any country in europe right?

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>>131723702
Fair enough, I like the Celts more than the Germanics desu. I just really don't like people from the British Isles converting to Germanic paganism. The idea of English being Germanic first of all is genetically false and cause tons of racism and conflict when in actuality they're all the same people.

>Pic related, an example of this

https://youtu.be/uhopt9vzmjc?t=3m45s

>>131714907
Sumerians and Egyptians come from proto European lineage which is traced back to the Caucasus region.

All these myths and gods are likely derived from same origin. Explains commonalities between cultures. All freakin old.

>>131724059
Yeah thats pretty much how it works, however you would have to be a full "x" citizen in that country before you would be given a passport to come and go as you choose between EU countries.

>>131724258
That's a bit of a stretch, the Kassites had some Aryan rulers and if the Tut DNA is accurate then some member of Egyptian dynasty might of be Aryan but the religion comes from a different origin and other than being Polytheistic is quite different.

>>131722907
Yea you do. No one in Scandinavia thinks you're Scandinavian. You are a burger. Do you even speak a Scandinavian language? What does it even mean to be connected to your ancestors via bloodlines?

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>>131724621
I dont think you understand the concept of an ethnicity.
Is a Arab born in Denmark that natively speaks Danish considered Scandinavian to you?

>>131725033
All americans are american, south slavs especially despise diaspora south slavs

>>131725033
More Scandinavian than a burger who doesn't speak danish but has Scandinavian ancestors, sure.

Are their really any main diffrences between the european pre christian religions?
Other than diffrent:
>Translations for deities.
>names of high festivals and traditions.
>slightly diffrent tales and creation stories.
>symbolism.

But all in all most of the the varations pretty much follow the same framework and adhere to alot of the same concepts and principles right?

>>131724621
>Yeah you do
Nope. I'll rest easy, and you'll have a wold hair up your ass for days because you can't do a thing about it. Trying to learn Norwegian, but there was a big thing about America and only speaking English. I know words I've been told, mostly food, but not the language itself. I also don't care if this bothers you. I'll keep doing it, and laugh about you acting like a nigger chimping put about appropriation.

>What's bloodlines even mean
The fact that you even have to ask this means I'm more acquainted with Norse paganism than you are. I bet that's just another sting that's gonna keep you up at night.

>>131725410
Found the cuck. Good thing you believe that, they'll replace you soon enough. I wonder if the New Danes will care at all.

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>>131725401
There is no such thing as an Americans, it's a stupid made up identity.
>>131725410
That's a messed up sense of Identity man, I get if you don't want burger mongrels but not all Burgers are like that. An American with Scandinavian heritage that hasn't been tampered with is just as Scandinavian as you in blood. Jews don't call themselves different where ever they go, neither should Aryans.
Here's a good video summing up my thoughs on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpsBojQ7HAk

>>131725567
>Nope. I'll rest easy, and you'll have a wold hair up your ass for days because you can't do a thing about it.
How do you know about that?

You are a burger larper. No one, literally no one in Scandinavia, thinks of you as a Scandinavian. How does that make you feel burger boy?

>>131725952
Yeah, but it's still an identity. You can't belong to a country unless you've spent a large amount of life living in that country and you have a direct ancestral link to it.

>>131725992
Ethnicities aren't fraternities dumbass. You dont get to pick and choose who are allowed.
Which is good because according to you the only true danes are Achmed and Rajit

>>131725992
It doesn't make me feel a thing, particularly since I personally know Scandinavians who don't agree with you. How does it feel knowing that none if your ass pin will change a thing?

>>131726196
Being attached to a country, especially one as degenerate as America is stupid. Focus on your people, not artificial nation states.

>>131725767
>>131725952
>Muh messed up sense of identity
You have probably never visited a Scandinavian country. You don't know about our culture, our food, our language. You are literally less Scandinavian than an Arab who grew up in Scandinavia and most people in Scandinavia agree with me. Stop larping fascist burger boy.

>>131726196
But he's not claiming a country, hes claiming an ethnicity. Eurofags get them confused because they often have the same name as countries, but they are completely different.
For instance, Austrian is a Nationality but not an ethnicity, as the vast majority of Austrians are Germans by ethnicity.

>>131726377
>"Majority of people agree with me so I must be right"

>>131726377
So now it's most and not every single one? Boy, you're really winning this argument, if you could call it that. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if you're one of those Senegal or Mali chimps.

Things that will change because of your autism: Nothing

>>131726377
>You have probably never visited a Scandinavian country. You don't know about our culture, our food, our language. You are literally less Scandinavian than an Arab who grew up in Scandinavia and most people in Scandinavia agree with me. Stop larping fascist burger boy.
Not a burger!!! What most Scandivians think literally doesn't matter to me whatsoever, the majority of them will parish at the end of the Kali Yuga anyways. The majority of people are liars, idiots, degenerates, etc. What the majority believes doesn't sway me.

>>131726432
He can claim it all he wants, doesn't matter to the people living in the country of his ethnicity. He's not equal to them and unfortunately never will be.

>>131708182
What would you recommend for me? I'm mostly English and Scottish, and a little less than a fourth Norwegian.

>>131725992
You already said that you'd consider a Scandinavian born Arab more Scandinavian than an American with entirely Danish ancestry.
Clearly you're equating identity more closely to culture while we are equating identity to ancestry.

>>131726655
"country of his ethnicity"
But country and ethnicity are completely unattached concepts, theres no such thing as a country of an ethnicity.

>>131726432
The majority of Austrians are probably Celtic, they are just now culturally Germanic.

>>131726594
>>131726619
Most people do agree. You would know this if you understood Scandinavia. Btw, is it because your actual culture is about being stupid and fat that you choose to try to connect with your ancestors even though you don't speak their language or know anything about their country?

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>>131726875
Didnt say they descend from Germanic, I said they were Germans

>>131726901
You still are doing a good job at showcasing you're lack of understanding the difference between a nationality and an ethnicity.

>>131726804
Spoken like a true american, countries where a single ethnicity is the dominant majority for a long period of time is the country of said ethnicity.

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>>131726944
They were Celtic, they got Germanized Culturally afterward.

>>131726901
So are people from Ireland not Irish if they dont speak the Irish language?

>>131726901
It's pretty clear that since you have to ask about your own ancestors views on ancestry, there's some thing I know that you don't.

Achmed is going to replace you, but hey, it's better that you have Mosques, Burka's and halal meat, as long as genetically similar burgers are far away! What a grand future. If I understood nothing about you in this modern age, that would be enough.

I may pick up one of the languages, it's not like it's ruled out. Again, it changes nothing to me. I couldn't care less about what Scandinavian court of public opinion thinks. You've got bigger problems.

>>131727183
So a Pakistani named Najiv moves into your country. He and his cousin/wife have a kid named Rajit who speaks whatever language you speak in your country. Is Rajit whatever ethnicity your country is?

>>131726901
'Haha the Americans are stupid and fat!'

So stupid and fat that we design and invent more things that you use in your country than any other country in the world and we've been doing that for almost a century? Where do you think all of your medical technology comes from? How about the chips in your cell phones and computers, where were they designed? When is the last time your country did anything notable at all besides get cucked en masse by talwar-wielding savages that you claim are as native as you?

>>131727050
White American is an ethnicity at this point. Just because a particular white American has Scandinavian blood doesn't make him ethnically Scandinavian, he speaks the same language as an English American or an Irish American and he has the same culture of idiocy, Trump-voting and fatness. In other words he is a white American and a non-Scandinavian.

>>131727237
Apparently. No wonder these guys look at thier past with shame, if they do at all (Norse didn't even speak the languages of modern Scandinavia, closest is Icelandic)

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>>131726932
Lol

>>131727462
In the true meaning of the word, yes you fucking dolt. But in real life of course not, we're racist folk.

>>131727584
But most people of Ireland cant speak Irish, so by your definition they are not actually Irish people

>>131727584
>doesn't make him ethnically Scandinavian
If he's 100% Scandinavian in heritage, yes it does.

>>131727584
>It's all about language, I swear!
>Niggers who speak your languages are raping your women and build mosques to hate preach from
>Muh Trump
>Muh fat

Yeah, your concept of these things are pretty flawed. I'm now 80% sure you're either a nigger, or a retarded commy.

>>131727422
There are like 3 women (literally) who wear burkas in Denmark. Again just goes to show that the fascist burger scandi larper knows nothing about the land of his ancestors.

>>131727919
Not to real Scandinavians though

>>131727919
>If he's 100% Scandinavian in heritage

This means you have to have been born here. Just having family here doesn't make you anything other than where you were born.

>>131728019
With a retarded brain like yours, you'll be a runner up to Sweden in no time. Good job with helping those rats "turn away" from ISIS. Very progressive of you. Again, it changes nothing for me.

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/07/15/485900076/how-a-danish-town-helped-young-muslims-turn-away-from-isis

>>131728161
>>131728230
Since you have decided that only people born in Scandinavia are the "true scandinavians" i can say that the ones in Minnesota are the true scandinavians, and they dont view you as Scandinavian.
>>131728230
Thats what a fucking nationality is. You dont understand the difference between a nationality and an ethnicity

>>131728417
The running over those people in Stockholm, now THERE is a real Scandinavian lol

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>>131726709
You are very celtic. Follow the ways of the Tuatha De Danaan and the Celtic legends. Stand true, my friend. May your heart be your guide and the gods grant you strength.

>>131728417
>Since you have decided that only people born in Scandinavia are the "true scandinavians"

Well yes. If you got family ties stretching back far in any certain country, you are 'true'. What's the problem? America isn't good enough for you?

>>131728417
>Thats what a fucking nationality is. You dont understand the difference between a nationality and an ethnicity

The same thing. Nationality has been confused these days with being part of a company and not a family. Nationality used to be the same as a family which is the ethnicity. Families are only family if you grow up among others of your kin in a certain ancestral country.

Don't get me wrong, I got relatives in America, but they are not Scandinavians.

>>131728690
American isn't an ethnicity. Its a nationality created 250 years ago, created by people who were mostly Anglo by ethnicity

>>131728690
The funny thing is we never denied being American. Its just being assumed that we're saying we're, in all ways, Scandinavian (Even though these guys are failing miserably in understanding ethnicity vs. nationality) And now an Arab who speaks the language is pretty Scandinavian. They'll be fantastic replacements.

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The dawn of Balders's bright glory shall banish the coming darkness.

>>131728879
>I got relatives in America, but they are not Scandinavians
They are by ethnicity(at least partially) but not by nationality

SHEEEEIIT so u sayin that we wuz paygunz and sheeiit nigga?
We sum finna kinda OG whitey now? sheeeeit

You americans are really desperate to fucking belong somewhere, I get your issues but you're just pissing of europeans with this shit. If you want to belong to some european ethnicity, move to the country that has that ethnicity as the dominant one and assimilate.

>>131728879
By definition, both are true.
"Ethnic traits, backgrounds or associations"
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ethnicity

>>131707051
Being "pagan" just because of your political view makes you as bad as Ahmad who is blowing himself up. You choose this religion out of rage and racism, it sounds like something what a lefty would say but it is actually true.

If you pick a religion, act like religious person not like an edgy faggot who is justifying his rage by pretending to be a "pagan"

>>131729186
You dont have to move to a country to become that ethnicity.
You still dont understand the difference between ethnicity and nationality

>>131729186
Nah, some of you Europeans just think we're trying to take something from you, or be your representatives or something. Too touchy.

>Modern pagans say they are pagans because they want to honor their ancestors
>Ancestors were Christians
??????????

>>131729347
There's no contradiction. Blood is blood. You just don't understand the concepts of that.

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>Arkansas' Ten Commandments monument destroyed
Christcucks BTFO

>>131729271
It's you who doesn't seem to understand it, your ethnicity is based on your fucking experience not just because your ancestor belonged to that ethnicity. You are an american and you will stay an american until you actually experience another fucking group.
I can never tell if you cunts are trolling or if you're actually that simple.

>>131729419
>t. 6'5 aireyun Vikang

>>131729590
American by nationality. American isn't an ethnicity

>>131728939
250 years of mixed breeding does make American it's own ethnicity with various mythologies of where your ancestors originally came from. Everyone does it, some just live on older lands and countries, American-san.

>>131728986
>And now an Arab who speaks the language is pretty Scandinavian.

I've heard these while on vacation. Nobody buys it, they all know they're descendants of welfare migrants. Some Arab women speaking ghetto Swedish sunbathing on a beach in Thailand didn't identify as Swedish, they were Iranian, but living in Sweden.

>>131729675
Trust me lad, you're a real fucking american

>>131729590
See
>>131729205
Ethnicity can literally be seen as having genetic traits associated with the group. We're both right.

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>>131726932
Eternal hippies.

>>131729205
The definition is descriptive only.

>>131729803
>Ethnicity can literally be seen as having genetic traits associated with the group.

Doesn't make it true. America must really suck for you wanting to be part or count your heritage as of Cuckden, bro.

>>131729638
Again, you really don't care to know the point of view on this, so green text another reply. I might give another (((you)))

>>131729834
They have nothing in common with these dirty junkies

>>131729787
Yes of course, I dont think I ever claimed otherwise. But American isn't an ethnicity.
>>131729771
No because we dont share a common cultural origin. The only way I would accept that White Americans are one ethnicity is if you said that they are part of a larger Anglo ethnicity, and Germans, Scandinavians and irish simply assimilated into that ethnicity.

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>>131729419
>>131729347
Pagans are nothing more than larpers.

>>131730008
>The only way I would accept that White Americans are one ethnicity is if you said that they are part of a larger Anglo ethnicity, and Germans, Scandinavians and irish simply assimilated into that ethnicity.

You're White Americans. That is your ethnicity.

>>131729803
>>131730008
Let's say you're of german ethnicity, living in america, never fucking set foot in germany. Do you think yourself on par with people who've lived their whole life in germany?

>>131729918
It's right there my dude, it's an accepted way of describing ethnicity via genetic traits

>Must suck
Not really. The idea being that, whether you like or not, it's just the way it is. There's always things that could improve on a national level.

>>131730154
Not an ethnicity, however it is apart of a larger Anglo ancestry.

>>131728374
>>131728417
Minnesotans are Minnesotans. They are not Danish, Swedish or Norwegian. There was a documentary about some Danish Americans on Danish TV. They eat æbleskiver with medisterpolser. That's fucking disgusting and it has nothing to do with Denmark or Scandinavia.

Why can't you just be happy with being an American? Why can't you realize that there is nothing Scandinavian about you?

>>131730150
Thanks captain obvious

>>131730156
What do you mean on par? I wouldn't be german nationality so no I wouldn't have a connection to modern day Germany. But assuming I was 100%, I would still have equal with Germany 500 years ago.

>>131730273
American isn't an ethnicity or cultural heritage. Its a nationality that we can be proud of for that last 2 centuries, but if we wish to look further back(like if we wanted to be pagan) we turn to ethnicities. WHy cant you understand this concept?

>>131730383
Would you call yourself german? Do you think germans would like you because of your ancestry?

>>131730156
"On par" is just a narrowing down of what it actually is. Again, I'm not claiming to be culturally Scandinavian, but ethnicity is a wider term than culturally to include traits associated with said people. This is why I tend to prefer using wider terms for cultural groups in various countries that share a lot of said traits.

>>131730537
By ethnicity, but would probably keep it to myself and not talk about it.
>Do you think germans would like you because of your ancestry?
I dont know, I dont see what this question has to do with anything. Again, I would have no connection to modern day Germany, just Germany 300 years ago.

>>131730273
I'm personally fine with my American culture (somewhat anyway, not this American via proposition bullshit). I'm sorry you can't accept that there are wider descriptions and genetic association that isn't food and language (food is often the excuse cucks use for multiracial societies, ironically)

>>131730547
>>131730641
If you don't plan on describing yourself by your preferred definition of ethnicity, why is this discussion even active in this thread? Nobody cares what you americans wish to call yourself in the privacy of your country, as long as you don't come to one of ours and start acting like we're your people.

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>>131713811
This is exact reason why i reconverted back to christianity.
This entire movement is full of uninformed puritist imbeciles and brainlet vargKANGZ.

>>131707051
It's a shame PAGANISM, just like RELIGION, belongs to the weak man who can't handle reality.

>>131730786
Because this thread is about paganism where you would turn to recapture your genetic heritage...
Dumbass

>>131730518
>>131730731
America is a cultural and ethnical heritage, at least to me as an outsider. You have a crazy political system that continously elects morons and you eat burgers. Why isn't this enough for you?

>>131707051
Philosophically polytheism holds no water. Read Augustinus.

>>131730862
>Be Church
>See bunch of women healing the sick
>Realise the sick don't turn to you or God anymore for healing
>"Their medicine will turn you into frogs!"
>Begin witch hunt and dark ages out of jealousy

Truuu

>>131730995
Paganism isn't that serious lad, you can worship whatever the fuck you want.

>>131731009
Because we prefer the Danes culture of trying to become Sweden 2.0

>>131730786
I'd say we're similar even culturally in the way of civilization and influences, I.e. The Western World.

A Dane got butt hurt and wouldn't let it go. I pretty much said what you just did, but other anons kept the topic going.

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>>131731086
Wow... didn't know pagan kiddies loved wiccan degenerates.

>>131731096
What country are you even from

>>131731252

For you
>>131730944

>>131731251
We'll be even more similar with time thanks to globalism, most of the music, shows, famous people we know are the same. We shop in same/similar stores and buy same/similar products etc.

>>131731261
A place where ethnicity actually means something.

>>131731009
Our political system is actually a lot more straight forward than coalition governing. Again, I'm fine with being an American in most cases. What you're failing to realize is that there's a religious aspect (this is a pagan thread after all) and you're confused about ethnicity. If you're a 3rd generation "Dane" with mostly Arab or African genetic ancestry, you're an ethnic Arab or African.

>>131731482
In the USA race means more than ethnicity.
So if you moved here you would be accepted into the majority.

how come these paganism generals have only been getting made recently? i havent seen a single one before about 4 or 5 weeks ago

>>131731854
We had them every now and again, religion threads are a very old thing, somebody has been trying to push them as generals for the last two months, but I haven't seen enough good discussions to agree with that idea.

>>131731607
Of course you would be ethnically Arabic, but you would likely be culturally Danish and religion and culture are connected more than religion and ethnicity in my mind.

>>131731369
Trust me, I don't like late stage capitalist consumerism based on cheap shit any more than you. Go burn it down. There's nothing to that sort of world except materialism and consumerism.

>>131730229
Ethnicity is the fact or state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition. You can't be Scandinavian if you never grew up in Scandinavia among blood relations.

>>131730254
Ancestry is meaningless unless you can use it. In medical terms you need to know your ancestory. But what else?

>>131732043
Thier all connected to some degree, but it's specifically important in Paganism. Wyrd and Orlog, so forth. That's where we're not clicking. I'm not claiming to be culturally Scandinavian. My traits via group make it my ethnicity, although ethnicity can have a wider definition than culture.

>>131732306
>>131732043
>cross flag
cucks

>>131732306
"ethnic traits, background, allegiance, or association". Like in my other example, a 2nd or 3rd gen African with African ancestry can be considered ethnically African, by definition.

>>131732340
So laddie, who do you worship and how?

>>131732552
Too wide a definition for a species of tribalistic apes. You have to Occam's Razor all of it to the bare necessities.

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>>131707051
>following (((pooganism)))
>Not worshipping Christian Saints who are the continuation of your ancestral gods

>>131732610
All of them, but it's kind of a tier thing. You don't bother the CEO when you have a busted printer. There's some ceremonies, like blot. Do you want a full description of that? For ancestors and various land wights, you leave gifts for them, like on grave or somewhere on your property for good luck. Its not as complicated as some think,it would be, on the day to day.

>>131733140
No, I mean as in you exactly, who's your patron god, which gods resonate with you and which you accept do to them being a part of the pantheon and acts of worship that you actually do,

>>131732737
I'd say only because the use is more common here than in still mostly homogeneous Europe. That's part of the definition though. There's enough on your genetic grouping for it to not be too complicated. Heavy Scandinavian ancestry = ethnic Scandinavian.

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Abrahamic shit must perish

>>131718810
This is why people call you LARPers.

>>131733378
I honestly don't by in to patron God's myself. I don't like to pick and choose. I'd have to say Tyr, but unless there's something major happening that needs a sort of specific answer, it's all equally done. I know other don't view things that way though. I've been to blots before. Since you can't really do it with larger animals, usually its a chicken. Blooding the God poles, blooding for luck, burning a cut of the meat, etc.

>>131733766
No, people call anyone doing something they don't like that's put of the current Zeitgeist LARPers. We're all probably doing something that someone will call larping.

>>131733140
arent there like 7 main gods? are there alot of lesser gods that you could ask for help with small things? or is it just the main ones and ettins?

>>131734166
Main and Ettins. They're minor God's, but it's assumed at Blot that giving your cuts of meat is the same as a gift to all at once.

>>131734166
Small things I'd just go landvaettir with.

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Christianity has demons, what is the Norse form of a bad spirit called?

>8ch atheists actually think they have a winner with this subversion
top delusion larpers

>>131734520
>landvaettir
what is that?

>>131734529
Vaettir, but it's different. Some are good, some are bad. Some are just pissed at something going on they don't like. Then there's specific creatures known for doing specific things and having specific looks. Like Draugr.

>>131734699
Spirits of the land. Some are your relatives, some are Alfr. Kind of a catch all term for the spirits connected to you by blood or location.

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>>131734921
isnt Thunor the same as Perkwunos though?

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>>131735496
Yep

>>131735546
can you show me a version of >>131734921 without the duplicate names?

Creation Myths

Egyptian
Memphis - Ptah creates all gods and the wold with the Word and the Mind.
Heliopolis - Atum creates the Ennead (9 major gods) and the world. Later they believe that Ptah creates Atum
Hermopolis - The Ogdoad involving Kek creates the world. Universe starts as primeval waters.
Thebes - Amun was member and creator of the Ogdoad. Eventually becomes prominent myth of Egypt.

Sumerian
Tiamat creates her husband Apsu, sky god, and they together create the other gods and the cosmos. Their children eventually kill Apsu.Tiamat gets pissed.

Marduk (god of storm and sky) kills Tiamat (primordial goddess of water and chaos) and creates the world. Uses the Word for this.

Jewery
God creates the world and all creation with the Word. Creates order from chaos. Using many motifs that are related to Tiamat. Is likely Marduk.

Greek
Gaea is basically self created from chaos and then gives birth to husband. With him they create the Titans, Cyclops and Hecatoncheires.

Uranus, husband and sky god, is killed or castrated by children. Cronus takes over and basically same thing happens to him by his children.

Norse
Oden, Vili, and Ve kill Ymir to create the Earth, the goddess Jord or Jorth, and the seas.

Flood Myths

Greece
Ogyges flood - covers whole world
Deucalion - people ordered to build chest. They floated in it for a while.
Said to have been caused because people had been too wicked.

Mesopotamia
Epic of Gilgamesh


Jewery
Story of Noah

Egypt
Ra displeased with humans. Has Hathor punish the people. She kills so many people their blood causes the Nile to overflow and destroy Egype and flood the oceans. Ra stops it all to save the last few humans.

Norse
when Ymir is slain his blood creates the waters and drowns the world. Drowns most of the Giants.

Celtic
Children gods kill their father and his blood floods the world. A pair of humans survive.

There are also many other categories of similarities.

>>131735651
Besides that picture being having different pantheons and fucking kek the idea of aesir-vanir-jotun classification is purely norse, even tho the idea of older gods and new ones that conquer them is a theme in indo-european religions.

>>131735926
well specifically what i meant is just which gods were aesir and which were vanir, and what is the difference between the 2 classifications?

>supposedly pro-European
>clings on to the past in support of old defeated ideologies in a contrarian fit instead of defending the EU, the only current effective formation looking after the interests of Europeans
Care to explain?

>>131736034
Different god tribes, the Vanir were older and more mystical in nature with strong magics and knowledge of time/destiny. The Aesir, the ones you probably know Odin, Thor and co fucked them all up in a large war. Some that survived joined the now combined Aesir-Vanir god pantheon, freya and frey are for example Vanirs.

>>131719285
Your forefathers were misled cucks. You need to acknowledge what your forerfathers did. You have (((chosen))) wrong.

>>131707677
The only distinctly American religion is Mormonism and Scientology.
Good luck with that my dude.

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>>131733116

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>>131707051
Let me suggest something if I may. I'm reading this thread and seeing something strange. People telling people they should all worship a different set of gods, when this movement is supposed to be about the unity of our people.

We should unite under one set of beliefs, and I think I have it: Mithraism.

First of all Jesus was based off Mithras, so christfags are covered (you're just switching to believing in the original Jesus who was an indo-iranian concept). The Mithraic cult spanned from the Aryans in India, to Iran, to Greece, to Rome, and to all of Europe. His cult survived through many empires who's warriors worshipped and payed homage to him. Most notably though, Mithras was the patron god of Roman soldiers, and Rome was fucking awesome and what we should be modelling our nations off of. Their myth tells of him carving himself out of rock, as they carved their empire from nothing. There are a lot of cool stories about Mithras and he ties into every belief system as the mediator between the Allfather and Men. This is certainly something we should look into reviving.

Hail Sol Invictus, Mithras, the Unconquered Sun.

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>>131736164
>EU
>effective formation looking after the interests of Europeans

Stop lying

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>>131738026
>should all worship a different set of gods
>We should unite under one set of beliefs
Pic related.

>>131739376
We already know most pantheons are based on the same original one. What we're missing is that our ancestors sometimes worshipped the gods within cults, the purpose for this was to strengthen a certain thoughtform and harvest its power. We need a cult right now, one that is inclusive and unifying.

We had Kek but the alt-tistic fags stole it.

>>131727584
>Just because a particular white American has Scandinavian blood doesn't make him ethnically Scandinavian
Can you take your retardation into another thread and not shit this one up you twat.

>>131739596
Unity through difference lad, as long as it's not abrahamic, I'll listen to what they have to say.

>>131741676
>Unity through difference lad
Pffffffhahaha right let's just keep speaking different languages too.

The west needs to unite as one empire. Every great culture knew this.

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>>131713166
What are those 3 religions on the iberian peninsula?

bump for Ancient Aryan Gods

>>131722380
>settlements
modern anglos are still more genetically similar to welsh and scots than germanics

Fuck off with this irrelevant fashion trend.

>>131713166

Which idiot makes these images?

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hi guys, i'm not gonna contribute to the shitstorm today as i have some actual questions

1) where is the community aspect of paganism if the premise is "worship your most ancient god". what if there is no surviving scripture, ritual, or anything at all?
2) it seems to me that paganism is way, way too involved in pushing back against abrahamic religions. In this way it strikes me as a fleeing ground for ex-christians, militant atheists (of the dawkins / einsteinism variety) and LARPers. Where is the actual worship? Wearing an odin necklace and going to the gym to get a girlfriend and have babies is not worship

3) how can it be that there is pretty much no strife between the various pagan denominations these days, at least here? surely there should be some disagreement about morality or practice. Instead I see "do what you want" and this reinforces my fear that paganism is actually just earth worship in practice, (definitely not in name)

>>131718611
if you can't decide for yourself, let the jews pick.

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>>131715397
>the preachers (Tyr/Radegast/Zeus/Jupiter)

hmmm... what about NO?


>>131716446
>the evil that democracy does to our people.

Pagans (Athenians) created Democracy!
If you mean western "democracy" then I agree with your statement.

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Listen to Midgard Rising

https://soundcloud.com/odin010-010n

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>>131750955
Fucked up the link:
https://soundcloud.com/odin010-010nido

>>131721622
i'm sorry, wise and true viking, but i can't hear you over the sound of muslim prayers.

>>131733116
how's sainthood treating mother theresa?

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>when you notice the thread just when it's about to be deleted

>>131719428
Who cares about you?

>>131751029
>https://soundcloud.com/odin010-010nido
did soundcloud remove the download links or something? i've saved a million bill burr podcasts but can't figure out where to save that one.

>>131753524
>https://soundcloud.com/odin010-010nido
downloads are enabled... others seem to be able to dl fine.. check browser settings?