Australian Police Charge Pedophile CARDINAL With Sexual Assault

>>131701221
ABC has got full coverage running within minutes, they've clearly had all their tapes and coverage pre-made since the police announced a few weeks ago that they'd be making an announcement shortly. It's probably been organised carefully so that the media can strike a big as blow as possible, i.e. trial by media. Not really that controversial when you consider the people in charge of both VicPol and ABC, they're both archetype sjw''s now and have been for some time.

It's pretty sad if there are genuine victims in this or any other alleged case because the whole victim advocate side of the controversy is without any real ethics and must be doubted. They've spent decades shaping debate to focus on the Catholic Church and ignore every other institution which is responsible for just as much abuse and cover-up. There has been a campaign to actively subvert the Church since the 60's and this is the culmination of that effort.

The ultimate irony is you have homosexual paedophiles abusing young boys and then you get homosexual advocates undertaking a witch hunt to attack the Church hierarchy.

>>131701221
bump

>>131701868
>WHY DO THEY PERSECUTE ME SO?
Because you fuck kids, you kiddy-fucking fuckface.

You don't get to have a bitch fest when someone points that out.

>>131703346
>activists target the church because they care about the victims
Can be easily disproved, there is more to the story. Evidence shows a wide range of other institutions have per-capita abuse rates just as high as the Catholic Church. This includes basically all other religions, state run care, education institutions, etc.. Basically any institution that looks after children has the same problem.

Yet activists target the Church to the exclusion of all others.

How can you then claim they do it because they care about the children?

>>131703733
>Evidence shows
Then show it, instead of just vaguely supposing that it may somewhere exist in the nebulous void of time and space, you lying fuck.

Take your kiddy-fucking death cult out the back and join the goat-fucking bomb cult on the trash heap of history.

>>131703899
R u single?

>>131704175
Fuck off phoneposting faggot.

The fact that I hate revisionist retards who think that just because faggots are bad that makes everyone who opposes them good doesn't mean I don't hate you too.

I hate all of you fucking people.

Even you, lurker reading this post, for being too much a coward to speak up and too ignorant to contribute anything of value even if you did.

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>>131701868
That's because last month the police announced that new developments were imminent. That's like telling the media: "Get all of your stories ready because you're going to need them when shit goes down." There's no conspiracy of the media here, other than the one to deprive you of your meds.

>There has been a campaign to actively subvert the Church since the 60's and this is the culmination of that effort.
You're just defending child abusers, you miserable little turd. It's not a fucking conspiracy against the Catholic church, though I'm sure that in the future we will learn a lot more about abuse in psychiatric hospitals, the scouting movement, youth detention centres, and other such institutions.

>The ultimate irony is you have homosexual paedophiles abusing young boys and then you get homosexual advocates undertaking a witch hunt to attack the Church hierarchy.
This isn't about homosexuality, you fag. It's about people abusing institutional power and using this power over vulnerable little kids.

You actually disgust me, anon.

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>>131701221
I'd get baptized with his holy water, if you know what I'm saying.

>>131704700
If you are genuinely worried about victims then your primary concern should be about victim advocates who shift focus away from the majority of victims who were not abused by priest but were instead abused by foster carers, teachers, government employees, step-parents, etc..

The campaign against the church is a political one, the victims are not the main concern of advocates, subverting the Church is.

We don't even have to disagree here.

>>131705554
>"if you're genuinely worried about victims your primary concern should be politically informed attacks on victim advocates to defend the church"
Hmmm. I wonder if your defence of the Church could, perhaps, be politically motivated.

Glass houses and all that.

>>131705853
Is this in lieu of not being able to admit you agree?

>>131701868
>bu bu but thair pedos are worse than our's
the dog wont every leave Vatican city. he will die in the halls. assuming we really want to catch the dog

>>131701221
fake news
sounds like a total nothing burger
i wouldn't believe it sage and report please

>>131705554
George, you were told to stay off the Internet after the charges were announced. Don't you have some confession to attend and penance to perform or something? I believe that approximately 9000 decades of the rosary are still outstanding for you.

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>>131706014
Saying that nobody is allowed to attack the Church because other people commit sex offences is a fallacy.

You need to kill yourself immediately.

Also, I'm still waiting on that evidence you lying dirty cunt.

>WAAAAH PEOPLE ARE REPORTING ON HOW I RAPE KIDS, HOW CAN THEY DO SUCH AN EVIL THING? THIS IS THE REAL CRIME, NOT ME STICKING MY DICK IN SMALL CHILDREN
You need to hang for your crimes.

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>>131706078
quality

>>131701221
Obvious payback for his remarks about jews.

http://www.baka.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/cardinal-apologises-for-describing-jews-as-intellectually-inferior-20120412-1wwng.html

>>131706077
Its actually the 'victim advocates' who are saying that one type of pedo is worse than another.

>>131701868

>the abc is ebil cos dey report on pedo priests

the cognitive dissonance is real

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>>131701221
Probably more false accusations. Libtards and atheist aussies hate this guy, especially since he debated Dawkins some years ago

They still don't out-diddle fags

>>131706682
this
fags are the problem

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>>131706607
>Probably he isn't part of a systematic coverup of peodphiles
>Probably /pol/ isn't a cesspit of pedophile defenders

>>131705554
Quit gas lighting this subject. This is historic after they've been doing this for ages without any of them even being convicted. The catholic church deserves this bad publicity just for once. They are just one big money laundering scheme and they don't do anything with all that money they get through good will from their subjects..

Fuck 'em

>>131706291
I'm not sure any of us fundamentally disagree. I'm just pointing out that the media, victim advocates and lawyers seem to disproportionately target the Church and that this actually HARMS the vast majority of abuse victims who were not abused by a Priest but in fact in some completely different institution.

I also note that their has been a campaign to subvert the Church going on since the 60's and that the people who push it aren't the most ethical and moral of people and that pushing this Abuse=Church agenda with no regard for the actual victims isn't that hard to believe.

>>131707495
>I'm not sure any of us fundamentally disagree
Let me clarify for you then: I absolutely disagree that pursuing child sex offences no matter where they hide and no matter how fiercely the institutions close rank around the offenders harms the victims of child sex offences.

>I also note that their has been a campaign to subvert the Church going on since the 60's
Coincidentally this is about as long as the Church has been raping small children, sometimes to death, and then covering up the crimes and promoting the perpetrators beyond the reach of the law.

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>>131707198
I've known for years Pell is high up on your fedora hitlist. It's sad how you fags can get away with these smear campaigns, now even if he's found innocent no one will hear that and you can keep spreading your fake news

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>>131707834
>even if he's found innocent

>>131707834
Yes, gays have surreptitiously infiltrated the police force and are secretly masterminding these charges and the subsequent kangaroo court. This is a more realistic and probable situation than that the Church fucks kiddies.

>>131707495

read this you faggot.

https://www.agd.sa.gov.au/projects-and-consultations/projects-archive/child-protection-systems-royal-commission

they targeted everyone. the catholic church does it the most, so they're the ones most in the spotlight. it's not a conspiracy to undermine christianity. pretty sure fucking kids undermines christianity.

>>131701221
I dont understand, he is gay? your post doesnt make sense

>>131708237

woops wrong link

http://childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/

>>131708237
>the catholic church does it the most,
I hear this said a lot and have never seen any evidence...

>>131708422

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sexual_abuse_cases_in_Australia

>>131708422
That's a far cry from "there is evidence that they don't do it the most" that you told us earlier.

>>131708480
>>131708422

>>131708509
Surely we can both agree if there was evidence that the church do it the most that it would be made readily available, right? So where is it?

Well if he's a man and he molested a boy that would make him gay

So gays are pedophiles

>>131708527

do you mean to say that isn't evidence? or that the fact that multiple priests have been convicted isn't evidence?

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>>131708055
False accusations are extremely common these days, something I bet you'd otherwise acknowledge, yet when it falls on Catholics both you and the progressives have a field day. Nice double standard faggot

http://www.themediareport.com/2013/11/26/false-accusations-catholic-priests/

>>131704672
Not just sharp, edgy

>>131708633
>So where is it?
Inside the many thousands of pages that were written justifying the various royal commissions which you have never read and never will read.

Instead you will sit there demanding I read them for you and spoonfeed you the excerpts.

Well, you can fuck off. You're the one who thinks you're entitled to have an opinion on this - now prove that you really are by doing the legwork to support your argument instead of saying that although you've never even glanced at the literal mountains of literal evidence from the royal commissions you can definitively state that there is not just no evidence that the Church is a nexus for kiddie-fucking, but that there is evidence that it is not.

Nah, much easier to spout your totally-not-politically-motivated we-should-help-the-victims-of-child-sex-offences-by-not-punishing-the-offenders retardese.

>>131708759
>False accusations are extremely common these days
Yeah, and in your article the 50% of accusations that were false did not progress to a prosecution.

Clearly this one did, so the people employed to sift through the accusations to weed out the false ones believe that there is sufficient evidence to merit laying a charge.

Turn on your fucking brain for once.

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>>131708665
>"If anyone believes that priests offend at a higher rate than teachers or non-celibate clergy, then they should produce the evidence on which they are basing that conclusion. I know of none. Saying 'everybody knows' does not constitute scientific methodology." – Dr. Philip Jenkins, Pennsylvania State University.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/2010-06-07-column07_ST_N.htm

If I remember correctly Pell was one of the people going AFTER abusers more than anything. I smell a rat.

>>131708759
It's not that crazy m8.
Priests are supposed to be virgins. As lonely dudes, there's a very good chance some of them can't keep it in, and abuse their position of power after making the poor choice of being a priest.

Has nothing to do with some grand religious conspiracy.
Of course, there's always people who will try to slander, but that's not the case here.

>>131709112

does that make priests fucking kids ok then?

>>131709312
You're not even making coherent arguments.

>>131709379

>changes goalposts with every comment
>accuses other of incoherence

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>>131709164
See >>131709112

>>131709312
What?

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>>131701221
Spoiler: the only reason this CARDINAL is being charged with anything is because he's Anglo-Saxon, and not Jewish.

That is literally the only reason this article happened.

A jewish Catholic priest can do as he likes.

>>131709379
You're a slippery bugger, George (double meaning intended).

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>>131701221

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>>131709553
>A jewish Catholic priest
never change, /pol?>>131709553/

Stop me where I'm wrong
>no evidence has been presented that abuse or cover up occurs at a higher per capita rate in the Catholic Church
>victim advocates, media and lawyers seemingly operate on the presumption that it has and disproportionately focus on abuse within the Church
>meanwhile, the vast majority of abuse victims who were abused within other institutions are IGNORED disproportionately
>these factors conveniently help progress the active process to subvert the Church that has been underway since the 60's

>>131701221
>conservative priest
>has been in the public eye for a long time by now
>sudden accusations
>no evidence
Wew. This is nothing but a smear attack on Pell and the Church. It is 100% politically and ideologically motivated attack on the last bastion of the values Western civilization was built on.

>>131710384

Don't forget that 99.99999% of the charges relate to things that took place in a very small time frame.

(((coincidentally))) the same time frame as summer of love etc.

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>>131703899
http://www.themediareport.com/fast-facts/

>>131704700
>It's not a fucking conspiracy against the Catholic church
Of course it is. And that's because everyone else has a beef with the Catholic Church. Including Protestants and Muslims. But more to the point, every pro-abortionist, every homo, every feminist, every leftist, every libtard is united in opposing the Church. Considering the mainstream media is in the hands of people who are ideologically at war with everything the Catholic Church defends, no wonder it's targeted with lurid sensatiolist media stories and biased reporting (for example, the MSM narrative about what Pope Francis is doing is at least 50% bunkum if not more).

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Pell is one of the only high ranking members of the clergy that is actively doing something about it.
He made a committee to target wrongdoers and help victims and thinks that anyone who is a victim should sue the church.
Fuck all you cunts who just want anyone to pay for the crimes and have bought into the idea that all the church is like how the media portrays them, even the idea that it's gone lenient on certain lifestyles and peoples is a fabrication. The Pope is essentially a figurehead and there are many pious conservatives in the church.

>>131710384

here let me stop you:

a crime is a crime no matter the rate at which others offend. it's not a hard concept to grasp.

multiple preists have been convicted of child sexual abuse in australia and are in goal right now >>131708480

other insitutions have NOT been ignored: http://childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/public-hearings/findings
>YMCA
>Anglicans
>Salvation Army
>Girls schools
>teachers
>swimming groups
>abos
>childrens homes
>jews
>health care
>jehovas witnesses
>grammar schools
>sports clubs
>disableds

>weeding out pedos and bringing them to justice undermines christianity more than actually fucking kids and going against the teachings of christ while preaching them

>>131710384
Just read the Royal Commission report published in early 2017, you faggot. The rates in some places were ridiculously high:
Worst dioceses in Australia

Archdiocese/diocese State Weighted average of priests that were accused perpetrators
Diocese of Sale VIC 15.1%
Diocese of Sandhurst VIC 14.7%
Diocese of Port Pirie SA 14.1%
Diocese of Lismore NSW 13.9%
Diocese of Wollongong NSW 11.7%

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-06/child-sex-abuse-royal-commission:-data-reveals-catholic-abuse/8243890

Catholics and especially priests have a problem with sexual abuse of children. You're defending them because ... (I'm guessing now) you're at least a little complicit.

The rates of abuse by priests is higher than in the population at large and especially high among Christian brothers and in dioceses like Sale and Ballarat (Pell's old molesting ground).

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>>131711482

>>131701221

He has to return voluntarily. Which he may not, as many in the church believe it is a witch hunt.

Shame they were a bunch of slave trading boy fuckers in Australia historically though, makes people automatically assume they are guilty.

>>131711386

Don't forget the ADF

>>131703733

Problem from a P.R. perspective is that the Catholic church ran a lot of these institutions down under.

>>131711386
The only people making the argument that some abuse victims are more important than others are the victim advocates who attack the Church for political reasons.
I never said the royal commission didn't focus on other institutions, I said that victim advocates, the media and lawyers did.
>>131711482
The fact that both of you are able to point to a gigantic royal commission but not provide any evidence to justify the disproportionate focus of the media and victim advocates on the Church speaks volumes. The evidence does not exist because abuse within the Church is at the same per captia rate as other institutions that deal with children.

>The rates of abuse by priests is higher than in the population at large and especially high among Christian brothers and in dioceses like Sale and Ballarat (Pell's old molesting ground).
There is no evidence of this.

>>131701221
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSo4zjTbokY

>>131711522
No one is surprised fags rape kids. Fags have to be kept out of the clergy.

>>131711482
I think they should, if found guilty, be made an example of. The church needs to be cleansed. I think the notion that the church, as an institution is to blame is wrong though (if they covered up they are). You don't blame the education system if a teacher touches kids, it is the actions of individuals that is the issue. The church moving priests from parish to parish is a crime to save face is something that needs to be addressed though and i'm not making light of that.
It's a lot of money on the other hand that will need to be payed by the gov to do these inquiries, especially if it is every suspected case. Perhaps the church should pay for them if there is credible testimony.

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>>131711945

>The only people making the argument that some abuse victims are more important than others

literally no one has made that argument. ever. i'd be glad to see evidence to the contrary though.

>I said that victim advocates, the media and lawyers did.

more goalpost shifting i see. how the fuck can catholic priest victims come forward for other crimes? there are way more catholic institutions in australia than the others so obviosly there will be more victims coming forward, hence the emphasis on the church.

if you are a real christian then you would support justice and compassion for the victims like jesus would, not defend these hellbound sodomites.

>>131703733
This. Worst of all the main reason they go after *lel pedo priests* because it's all about money. The Vatican has millions if not billions of dollars while other instutions don't. So many lawyers or advocates don't care about some Lutheran molestation case since they don't have nearly the money or assets that the Catholic Church has.

>>131711945
>the evidence is a conspiracy
>facts hate me

The overall rates of child sexual abuse by priests is something like one or two percentage points higher than the population at large, which is a statistically significant difference. For Australian Catholic priests it's just over 7 percent, I think, whereas for the population at large it usually comes out at around 4 or 5 percent of people being abusers. You can find the four percent figure confirmed here:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/do-the-right-thing/201003/six-important-points-you-dont-hear-about-regarding-clergy-sexual

I want to know why you're so much in denial. What the fuck did you do, you nasty little kiddy fiddler?

>>131710384
Look m8, you're awfully defensive about this Cardinal bloke.

We know kiddie fiddling happens to some extent in the Church.
We also know that they were covered up to an extent, so whatever statistics we have right now are lower than the actual number.

Then, there's the factor that Clergy cannot have sex to any extent.
Teachers, etc.. can have a natural sexual outlet. Clergy cannot.

>>131711945
Personally (this is opinion) it's pretty fucking weird to have ANY institution of single males all in one group.
This is why people are so much more fascinated by sexual abuse in religious orders.

>>131712509
In the article you posted it says
>According to the best available data (which is pretty good mostly coming from a comprehensive report by the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in 2004 as well as several other studies), 4% of Catholic priests in the USA sexually victimized minors during the past half century. No evidence has been published at this time that states that this number is higher than clergy from other religious traditions. The 4% figure appears lower than school teachers during the same time frame and certainly less than offenders in the general population of men.

Yet you say
>The overall rates of child sexual abuse by priests is something like one or two percentage points higher than the population at large
You mean in Australia right? What's the child sexual abuse rate of the general Australian population?

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>>131713804
>You mean in Australia right? What's the child sexual abuse rate of the general Australian population?
Find out yourself and stop protecting kiddy fiddlers. Priests in Australia have issues that you're trying to cover over because ... [fill in the blank].

>>131701221
>Catholic
>Christian

pick one

>>131701868
This. It's faggot payback against Pell and anyone who speaks out against gays. They invent fake historical sex abuse allegations, and then craft different verisons over the years to finally try to get one that sticks (other versions claimed Pell was in a location he wasn't at the time etc.) Massvie stich up:
>Be faggot in Victorian Police Force
>Find gay ex-catholic who has grudge against the church
>Coach him to say that 40 years he spend some tine alone with Pell at some location
>Doctor the times so that Pell baing alone with him at that time was possible (often they get it wrong)
>Launch bullshit chsrges in trial by media stich up
Remember they could do this to anyone. Can you give an accoubt fo all your movements for the past 40 years to prove you weren't alone with some fantasical faggot who makes up a story 40 years later?

>>131714532

>literally fucks boys
>hates gays

pick 1

>>131714532
>Can you give an accoubt fo all your movements for the past 40 years to prove you weren't alone with some fantasical faggot who makes up a story 40 years later?
i can kill said faggot. if i'm going to jail i might as well go for something i actually did.

>>131704700
t. retarded American who doesn't understand the Gay-Left war on Pell that has been waging for 20+ years now.

Ummm this doesn't fit my agenda so please stop bumping this thanks

>>131701221
Every LGBT faggot in the world should be shocked with ECT to the head until they stop being paraphilic paedophile sickos. You so-called "people" are perverts and international agents of Judaism.

>>131714644
Most pedophiles are just attracted to kids in general.

3. Clergy sexual abuse in the Catholic Church can't be blamed on homosexuality.

Although the vast majority of victims are boys (80% according to the 2004 John Jay study and other studies) and the Catholic Church has a large number of priests who are homosexual in orientation (22% to 45% according to a variety of studies and reports), homosexuality doesn't make men sex offenders. No evidence exists that suggest that sexual orientation, in and of itself, makes someone at risk to commit sex crimes against children or others. Sexual orientation is not a risk factor for crime.

Pedophilia is not an expression of an adult sexuality.

A catholic priest in trouble for pedophilia?? OMG I don't believe it! Fake news!

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>>131714672
Fuck you, you dumb bogan. I'm a Catholic Australian who is disgusted by this shit. Went to a Catholic high school and then boarding school (Jesuit) and even a Catholic residential college. I know exactly what devices defensive child-abusing Catholics use to try to defend the kiddy fiddlers in their midst and >>131713804
this anon knows these techniques well.

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>>131714166
You're supposed to provide the information to support your claims faggot, I've already done my part

>>131714166
>Faggot priests infiltrate the Church and take over positions and institutions.
>Other priests fight back (Pell)
>Faggot priests get other faggots in their gay circles to make up fake abuse allegations against the anit-gay priests
>Co-ordinate with media and gays in police force
>Remove anti-gay preists from Chirch and consolidate gay takeover
Pell has been the no.1 target of the Left and of Gays inside and outside the church for decades. They craft fake historical allegations, many of which were proven to be impossible (dates had Pell at wrong location), they keep working on adjusting times to make it semi-plausible, now have a case to take to media. Any homo could claim he spend time alone with you, how would you disprove it?

>>131714857

it's obviously an expression of pell's sexuality tho

>>131715319

you forgot the part where he
>fucks kids

>>131701221
It is a Catholic thing fag boy, this is not rampant in all Christianity.

>>131715368
Yeah but there is no overlap with adult homosexuals who are attracted only to adults. Reinforcing the myth that gays are all suppressing their hidden pedo urges is bullshit.

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>>131701221
It's not that he was a pedophile I think but that he covered for the pedos that came to him

>>131703733
>Other people are pedophiles too, so that makes me doing it alright.

>>131714857
Fags should burn in hell fire they target little boys and you know it.

>>131714918
All Jesuits are fags in Australia, so you got raped at Riverview, ok. Pell opposed jesuits and gays inside the church and political life, now the gays inside and outside the church stich him up to compelte their takeover of every catholic institution here.

>>131701221
Kil yourself fafgot

>>131715591
That's not true.

because the media loves this

in reality, when it comes to %, there are more pedos among gays, teachers and protestant priests than catholic priests.

But facts don't matter to narratives.

>Religifags once more blown out with no defense.

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>>131715101
>I've presented retarded and slippery defenses of pedophiles anonymously on the internet yet again. Woo hoo!!

>>131715319
Pell got it badly wrong with Didsale for reasons that look suspicious. He's also been involved in defending people from Ballarat, where offending was especially bad. He's been low on claiming
responsibility in general and now has basically become a fugitive in the Vatican. The whole things looks suspicious as shit and I'm not at all surprised that there are plausible multiple accusations of abuse against him. Let's see how it plays out in court.

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>>131715443
Protestant pastors have higher rates of abusers, it doesn't fit ((their)) narrative so of course you don't hear that

>be Catholic
>get diddled

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There are very few groups of people who are as low as a pedos

And one of those groups are people who make up false claims of sexual assault in order to gain a personal advantage.

I don't know what the truth is, but either way, the story just goes to show that there are some real scum out there.

>>131715764

proofs?

>>131715400
Bullshit. The faggot Left inside the Chirch organise around the Jesuits and Eureka Street:
https://www.eurekastreet.com.au
Pell is their enemy no.1. They have armie of ex-catholic and catholic gays who can invent a bullshit story of them being in proximity to any catholic figure in the past 40 years and use it to suicide bomb you out of the church if you oppose them.

>>131715764
Proof?

>>131715686
Yes it is fag I know what happens at those city LGBTQ+ teen out reach centers. Lets kick that rock over or hell just check craigslist. We catch you fags all the time.

>>131706078
HOLY SHIT is that flag real? do you live in VC??

>>131715443
Catholicis IS Christianity, faggot.
Jesus Himself appointed Peter to be first pope nd head of the Churhm. If you deny this you aren't Christian. Why do you thik it's only Catholic curch that is a vivtim of this media conspiracy? Becouse its real Church and powers that be want it destroyed.

>>131715443
Fucking non stop attacks on Catholicism from the jews since the time of Christ.

>>131715947
>>131716003
It's been posted already ITT you fucking retards.

Not only that, it would first be required proof of you faggots that catholics are pedos at higher rates than general population.

But you are so fucking blue pilled that you've interiorised media narrative as fact and common sense.

>>131701221
A true Christian won't be quick to accuse anything. Christianity is not one person.

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>>131716126
I never said I was a believer calm down Templar larper.

>>131715705
Pell and the anti-gay factions are outnumbered in the church, and outpowered (this is an example of it, then can blackmail and destroy any anti-gay figure through false allegations made by one of their gay friends.)

You're saying Pell wasn't anti-gay enough and shouldnhave purged them harder, O agree. But no one else inside the church did anything more to get rid of them, no one took a harder anti-gay line. And the entire institutional Left both inside and outside the church line up to destroy him for being anti-gay. Can you not see why more Right figures inside the church don't take the gays on to purge them from the Church, and how gays take over institutions like the Jesuits.

>>131715996

maybe you get get conjugal visits when he's in the slammer and he can diddle your weewee too

>>131716341

where cunt?

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>>131715617
>All Jesuits are fags in Australia
Jesuits are educated but predominantly not fags. If anything, Jesuit culture is homophobic. The only Jesuit fag I know left the Jesuits in order to come out fully and marry his husband (outside Australia).

Pell certainly did oppose Jesuits and gays inside the church and political life (making enemies needlessly and fighting useful wars in the process), but worst of all Pell used the typical device of trying pompously to reclaim moral authority for Catholic leadership as being superior to other forms of knowledge (especially on typical Catholic wedge ethical issues like IVF or abortion) and in doing so came across as a condescending and anachronistic pratt. Instead of updating the church, he's tried to reassert a medieval hierarchialism and higher authority, but in doing so he's just alienated Catholics with a social conscience (like my mum) who find him to be a nasty stain on the church and a hateful person. He's been a divisive and bad leader who has had a retrograde effect on the church and now (hilariously) it turns out that he's most likely a kiddy fiddler himself. The most pompous people are always the worst hypocrites. The joy of watching his fall is spectacular.

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>>131716341
I am not saying it is true, just that it makes more sense with the no getting married and having high access to choir boys.

>>131716489
find it yourself, retard.

why should I waste my time with someone that doesn't do me the same courtesy?

where is your proof that catholics are more pedo than general population, protestant priesthood or any other group?

>>131716609
>just that it makes more sense with the no getting married and having high access to choir boys.
Get yourself checked, son. Projecting those thoughts aren't a sign of a healthy mind at all.

>>131716753

right here you peri peri poofter >>131712509

Destroying the church altogether, which seems their overarching goal, will do far more damage than a few gay kiddy-fiddlers.

"Updating" the church, by making it some sort of LGBYTI and SJW outreach group, is worse than destroying it.

>>131716863
You know its true it is a perfect place for a pedo to go and you know it. I am not saying every priest is a pedo or homo...but it is a good place for them to hide out.

>>131716126
>1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats,


>3Forbidding to marry,


What did paul mean by this prophecy ?

>>131716990
What if it Schisms instead?

>>131716990
It will only bring in more pedos if you ask me.

>>131717035
Catholic church banned Priests from marrying because some were abusing the system to gain holdings through dynasties if I remember right

>>131717137
BINGO!

>>131716997
No it isny you fahhot. They would be find out. No one can hide fro Eyes of God for lon.

>>131701221
It's because fags and priests are the same goddamn thing. Why would a man choose to be a priest if he was forbidden from having a wife, it's most likely because he's a closet fag.

This is what happens when you let the Judeo-masonic demons into your religious institutions.

>>131717313
This is a pretty ironic post since Pagans were notorious for being degenerate boy-fuckers

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>>131715996
>https://www.eurekastreet.com.au
This is getting weirdly specific and even somewhat informed for /pol/. Eureka Street isn't bad, though it used to be much better under Morag Fraser. Pell certainly had on currency in Catholic intellectual circles in Sydney and Melbourne because he's a flaming retarded idiot with very little of intelligence to say about complex issues. Catholicism inherently has an orientation toward the poor and the downtrodden (just look at who Jesus gave a shit about), but the conservative Catholic right in Australia (of which Pell is a part) have become preoccupied with their own authority, fighting against the left, asserting their own regressive views on very minor medical ethics points, and then in secret running what is basically a cabal of kiddy fiddling priests who get rotated around dioceses and have all their massive legal fees covered by the church. Shit is nasty and it's no surprise that Pell has few supporters, except perhaps some fringe right figures who may or may not be kiddy fiddlers themselves and who (very weirdly) show up posting on /pol/!!

>>131715947
>>131716003
See >>131709112
There's some more stuff, scroll up

>>131715705
>hey, listen to this..
>okay, can you give source?
>omg pedo

>>131717300

>They would be find out

but anon, they are being found out

>>131717427
>had on currency
typo: had no currency

>>131717313
Kill yourself faggot. Scripture advises chastity. Paul was clear that it would be better if everyone was chaste.

>>131716884

That says catholic priesthood are less likely to be pedos than general pop.
Isn't that what you're trying to deny?

>>131717427
>regressive views
>anyone who has right views are kiddy fiddlers themselves
My Jew-dar is going off

>>131717313
So why do protestant pastors abuse kids at the same rate as catholic priests?

Well, well, well.

Bank robbers go to rob banks because that is where the money is. Fags and kid diddlers go to where kids are i.e. churchs, youth sports, and teaching

>>131717532
And does everyone always follow the rules? Why create conditions that encourage harm?

>>131717473
No they arent. Its a plot to destroy church, nothing more.

>>131717560

>7 is less than 4

l2maths

>>131717728
Well why hasn't it worked yet?

>>131717728

it's a plot to destroy boipucci if i remember correctly, which is illegal, immoral, and against the teachings of jesus and the church

>>131701221
Catholicism isn't Chrisitianity you fag.

And if you believe it is. Then please show me where in the Bible does it state the word "cardinal." Catholicism is cancer, it's basically the religion Democrats base it off of. Child fucking, Inquistion, Manipulation, and literally appropriate Jews.

>>131717836
There is literally nothing wrong with boipucci as long as it is two adults, or two teens.

>>131717649
Catholic priests dont abuse kids. Pastors abuse them becouse they are in leauge with satan.

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>>131717632
Your Jew-dar needs seem recalibration, I'm afraid, anon.
>>131717632
>>anyone who has right views are kiddy fiddlers themselves
Try going with what I actually said: "who may or may not be kiddy fiddlers themselves"
>>131717427

>>131717860
What IS Christianity then?
Orthodoxy?

>>131717932
It is just some odd wording.

>>131717860
Lol you even have a faggot on your flag

>>131717439
Also see
http://huffpost.com/us/entry/4019347

Yeah I don't know how to use the archive thing

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>>131706077

>>131718012
No wait, but that is a bundle of stic--

Oh, top kek

>>131717771
>https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/do-the-right-thing/201003/six-important-points-you-dont-hear-about-regarding-clergy-sexual

>Catholic clergy aren't more likely to abuse children than other clergy or men in general.
>4% of Catholic priests in the USA sexually victimized minors during the past half century. No evidence has been published at this time that states that this number is higher than clergy from other religious traditions. The 4% figure appears lower than school teachers during the same time frame and certainly less than offenders in the general population of men.

Learn to read. At least your own sources.

>>131717937
One Apostolic Church, nothing less.

>>131717937
Christian Orthodox yes

>>131716126
The catholic church has been subverted by Zionists. if we had a real pope things would be a lot better.

>>131718117
desu 4% is still too much; at least they and all who protected them are burning in hell

>>131718138
Alright then good taste anon

>>131717863

you know what i mean

>>131718117

>4% average
>7% for priests

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-06/child-sex-abuse-royal-commission:-data-reveals-catholic-abuse/8243890

>The Australian Catholic Church has released "grim" data revealing 7 per cent of priests, working between 1950 and 2009, have been accused of child sex crimes.

hmmm

>>131717532
>Scripture advises chastity

This is simply not true , paul says that every man is different and if you are blessed with the gift to abstain then you should do so , making it a rule is against paul .
Qualifications for Deacons

(Acts 6:1-7)

>8Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre; 9Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience. 10And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless. 11Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things. 12Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well. 13For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.


>1Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.

>>131717691
Why create conditions like letting fags have authority over kids fags have a tough time following rules about not touching kids. Also Priest have the protection of grace when they take valid holy orders. The Church needs to do a better job discerning on potential priests so fags don't take invalid holy orders.

Fags lie to give blood when they should not be giving blood so why would fags not lie about why they want to be priests.

Be gone sodomite.

>>131717771
You disingenuous shit, you know damn well what you're doing now

>>131718012
Are you retarded or do you not have eyes? That's the flag for Fascism retard.

>>131718252
>accused
They were wrongly accused by whore satanic masons you faggot son.

>>131718252
Sounds like this is specifically an Australian problem; Australian Inquisition when?

>>131718362
It's just banter anon

>>131718371

thats why they're all in goal now i guess. damn satanic masonic laws

>>131718373

NOW

>>131718362
That symbol is a faggot, faggot

>>131717863
Sexual outside of marriage is a sin. No surprise you push sin. Go troll craigslist for your teen run away boipucci or do you hang out at the youth LGBT out reach center for vulnerable kids. I know your kind and we have a cell waiting for you sodomite.

>>131701221
>Australian Police Charge Pedophile CARDINAL With Sexual Assault
Good, it's time to clean you faggots our of our church. You're the reason the fucking pope now supports islam.

>>131718480
Fuck you faggot

>>131711482
>accused
and if found innocent theyre accused up coverup.
this is nothing but a shameless left wing smear campaign and retarded atheists eat it up like candy because they think it somehow absolves themselves of their own hedonistic lifestyle.

>>131718252
>accused

I accuse you of fucking kids.

>>131718576
I am still angry about what happened to Benedict

>>131718252
>>4% average
?

>>131718292
Priests cant be faggots you dipshitm. Faggots wouldt be able to stand in vicinity of holyness or anything like that. Fags hate and fear Jesus. No dark spirit can stand in Church.

>>131717771

So your argument is that 7% of priests in Australia were convicted of child sex abuse.
And 4% of the general population of the USA were convicted of child sex abuse.

And, despite the US population being culturally, demographically and numerically distinct, you thought you could take the 4% statistic, and measure it against the 7% statistic?

You can't do that. That isn't going to get you an accurate measurement.
It's not being petty or "picking apart" the statistics. It's a very fundemental error you made.

Unless you can find the sex abuse statistics for that era IN AUSTRALIA, you can't use the 4% statistic.

It was pretty funny how you had to use an article that disproved your point in order to mine statistics from it to use in your weak argument, though.

>>131701221

Muslims and Christians have something in common, they both bow down to kids raping monsters

How do you go to church every week knowing yours getting a sermon on morality from someone who rapes kids?

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>>131716589
There it is.
The faggot Jesuit Lefty comes out with the real reason why they hate Pell and try to take him out: Pell opposes their gay agenda.

Pell was the anti-gay force inside the Chruch. The Jesuits the gay-Leftist force. The Gays use their members to accaise any Catholic figure opposing them of historical sexual abuse to smear and destroy them, so they can complete their take over the Church unopposed. Go read Eureka Street ad see what kind of a POZ homosexual 3rd world they want for Australia.

>>131718727
>No dark spirit can stand in Church.


Wrong Satan conversed with God before God allowed Satan to test Job. Read your Bible. If Satan can stand before God in Heaven and tempt Christ on Earth for 40 days what makes you think dark spirits can not enter a church. Many people in mortal sin wait in line for absolution in a church everyday.

You have much more to learn as a babe in Christ.

>>131718267
Qualifications for Overseers

>1This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. 2A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 3Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 4One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 5(For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) 6Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

>A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife,

bishop is highest rank in church they have a wife , cathocucks yet btfo by scripture

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>>131718716
He's either legit retarded or disingenuous as hell

>>131719045
This

>>131719045
The lord give us the Church and the lord taketh away

>>131719060
see
>>131717137
That change was for political reasons

>>131718951
*tips fedora*

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>>131718998
>The faggot Jesuit Lefty comes out with the real reason why they hate Pell and try to take him out: Pell opposes their gay agenda.
Jesus, anon. Did you actually read what I said. My detailed experience of Jesuits, having lived in two Jesuit institutions for many years of my life, is that they're predominantly homophobic. They are mostly anti-gay. They don't like gay people. They're opposed to fags. They dislike poo-punchers. Am I being clear enough now??

Your description makes no sense. This is not a case of gay Catholics trying to frame a virtuous cardinal. Pell has been accused of some very serious crimes and the law needs to take its course. In the meantime, you need to learn more. I suggest reading some books about Catholicism in Australia. This is a good one.

Also, what drives you to dislike gay Catholics so much? I'm actually curious...

>>131718727
>No dark spirit can stand in Church.

Haha he seen to many movies where the devil cannot enter the church

>>131718951
>accused
not like accusing prominent conservatives of sexual misconduct is rare or anything

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>>131717427
Get out of the temple faggot before you get tossed off the roof. No more projecting, no more faggot Left priests.

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>>131701221
tfw he visited your catholic school when you were young at least twice and have shook his hand.

>>131719168
The Church will not fail as a whole she is the bride of Christ. Satan in not allowed to prevail against her Matthew 16:18. Victory belongs to the Godhead in the final battle. The Church will suffer tribulations though.

>>131701221
Well the LGBT community has "ratified" being pedosexual as something normal

So basically they are normalizing he rape of our children just so they can pretend to be in their unicorn land where they are fucking faggot cunts

>>131719237
>That change was for political reasons

so the commandments of man go again before the commandment of god in the catholic church

>>131719060
Who did Jesus give the keys to again?

>>131719045
No you dipshit. Devil cant be a priest. You think he could handle holy water? Could he pray and handle Holy Bible? Could he give communion? No.
Church is only place safe from corruption, its our only refuge. Itns not an earthly intitution.

>>131701221
Doesn't Pell live in the Vatican now? How will they ever bring him to Australia?

>>131719364
From what I could read he was supposed to have touched 2 guys inappropriately at a swimming pool in the 1970s.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-27/george-pell-the-swimming-pool-allegations/7664688

>>131719415

Hes not the first priest to rape a kid, in case you didn't know.

You conservatives love to pull out STATISTICS when it supports your claims on refugees and Muslims. But when statistics show priests rape kids way more then the general population, suddenly the stats don't matter

>>131719692
This article says he is coming back to clear his name.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40439489

>>131719838
Catholic priests dont rape. They dont fornificate at allm

Westernn nations like Australia run by the principle of "innocent until proven guilty", but lefties and Catholic haters are more than happy to say Pell is guilty before any evidence is presented.

*KEY QUESTION*

Was the alleged victim a very young child?

OR an older child on the cusp of puberty /

If he was older this Cardinal is just a bog standard gay man hiding out in the church. I've heard that homosexuality is rampant there.

The left has been purposely confusing the issue. They always imply that there is rampant 'pedophelia' when in reality a lot of this is Pederasty which is completely different.

The profile of a pederast is basically a 'normal' gay male. A pedophile kiddie diddler has a whole other disorder.

If you wanted to get rid of this child sex problem in the church, you'd just have to weed out the gay subcultures they exist there. It isn't about the vow of celibacy in straights

>>131719666
It is an institution that has Grace but mankind must avail themselves of God's Grace, this include priests. Jesus allowed Satan to enter Judas an apostle. Betraying the Church even our LORD and savior has been a long part of the Churches history.

You have a lot to learn as a babe in Christ.

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>>131719431
Dude, you've got to do something about that.

>>131719429
Peace and love to you too, dear neighbour anon. And now abides faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

>>131719620
What do you expect? The creation of what became the Catholic Church was due to the first Christian Roman Emperor standardizing the faith; of course political decisions would be made to keep it unitied

>>131719965

Oh that's okay then. I was worried those kids would be scared for life. But if he only molested them a bit, you can keep looking up to him

>>131719990
Sodomites are pedophiles.

>>131720040
What can I do? I can't un-meet him or un shake his hand. I was never molested so nothing of value was lost.

EMBRACE THE P E D D

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>>131719625

are you going to use one misinterpreted verse from jesus versus the teaching of paul in 2 pages ?

read it nigger the word pope does not come up

>>131719990
>implying a priest hiding as a sodomite is any better
anon...

>>131720171
>fellow Christians
threats to their unity more like; anyway now that Islam is once again spreading across the west I wish we were united as one faith

>>131720171
Jesus>Paul

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>>131720360

Now that is wrong because they have to be equal paul is guided by the holy ghost

>>131719838

>But when statistics show priests rape kids way more then the general population, suddenly the stats don't matter

Still waiting on the statistics that prove that.

All we have so far is someone posting statistics that in the USA, the offending rates of the general population and the offending rates of the priests are the same, completely disproving you.

And then there is some idiot trying to compare the offending rates of the general population in the USA to the offending rates of priests in Australia and trying to construct an argument out of that, which is flawed.

>>131720004
Jesus knew about judas trechery and so would Church which is bride of Christ

>>131719990

So instead of following pedophiles, you guys are taking moral advice from gays

>>131720530
Guided is not the same as being God. But what a pagan faggot would know about Scripture.

>>131720171
Pope is just Italian for father, which is just a colloquialism for his true title

>His Holiness [papal name], Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ, Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Primate of Italy, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Sovereign of the Vatican City State, Servant of the servants of God.

So save your you should not call him pope or father

Its the Catholic religion, it's a servants religion, and really nothing of use, especially if it wants to survive for another 100 years. Catholics are fucking heretics who light a mary candle one day and then fuck kids the other, and why shouldn't they, they can go absolve themselves by confessing their sins to another pedophile, nice scam. This is like taking a shower but even less involved, like using no water, going in and out and you are absolved. What a fucking jooke lol.

The pedo stain will never go away, accept it. Only exception to Catholics are maybe the italians because they take their stuff a little more seriously, but south america? all a bunch of pedo sister rapists, including the united states.

fucking rock spider nonce.

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>>131701221

My conclusion from this thread:

>the jews did this
>There might be a pedo problem in Australia
>INQUISITION WHEN?
>autistic theologic screeching
>but seriously the jews did this

>>131720737

god i love timothy it keeps on btfos catocucks.

All Scripture is God-Breathed

10But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience, 11Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me. 12Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. 13But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. 14But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; 15And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
>16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

>>131720812
>Catholics are fucking heretics
Anon you better be Orthodox if you want to say that

>>131720812
Lol we survived 2000 years. Good luck with your little heresy.

>>131720907
Seems like you are missing 7 books there bucko from your "Bible" Satan loves Protestant that is why you keep shattering like glass into a thousands of faction and the Catholic Church prevails your churches lack the sanctifying grace of God.

>>131720792

the pope father is a title a bishop was leader of one church , christ was the pope who ruled them all

btfo with scripture again.


>8But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. 9And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. 10Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

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Have been contemplating pizzagate and wanted to bounce my ideas off you anons.

A starting point is that these child abuse rings have been proven to exist: http://nypost.com/2016/10/09/the-sex-slave-scandal-that-exposed-pedophile-billionaire-jeffrey-epstein/

Question is, how does a pedo with wealth and power get to them? They can't share their "interest" with anyone they know, so they turn to online pedo communities where they learn the attached symbols, and then look for these symbols in the real world like breadcrumb trails.

Why the pizza restaurant in DC had this symbol: http://imgur.com/5iE3V8h

Now they go into the restaurant and look for someone wearing the symbol. Maybe they signal by handing him the coin stamped with the image.

Again, we know these rings exist, it's just not clear how a random pedo gets into them. But I think the "breadcrumb trail" explanation makes the most sense.

>>131721130
We survived the Arian Heresy we will survive this current attack of Satan, victory belongs to the LORD host of hosts.

>>131721203

even satan manages to quote with scripture you have already lost

12 years of Catholic school here AMA

Never got molested but a couple of the priests were obviously faggots and I wouldn't want to have been around them alone

>>131721387
...But you have been the one in thread post the most scripture.

>>131721272
Biblical legalism and literalism is the last refuge of the heretic.

>>131721452
Did you ever have any based Priests? I had the son of Justice Scalia teach theology at my school, which was pretty awesome

>>131721387
No, he cant. Devil cant stand near Holy Bible. Nor he can stand in Church.

>>131721452
No one wants to be around fags.

>>131721387
That's weird. Scripture is God breathed no? Fit for teaching, always? Means enough to start a church, certainly.

No?

>>131721626
Satan can quote Holy Scripture that is what Satan did to Jesus during the 40 days.

I don't know where you got that false doctrine from, but it is wrong.

>>131719666
Then how did mudslimes break into a church in Normandy, behead the priest, and chant a pisslamic prayer in arabic at the altar? Churches can keep out Satan but they can't keep out mudslimes?

>>131721483

i said even satan that makes you lower then him, because you have no real argument . here jesus btfoen the devil with scripture just like i did with you ...


Matthew 4
>3And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread. 4But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

>5Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,

>6And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

>7Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

>8Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; 9And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. >10Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

>>131701221
>being a sodomite

Hell is for ever!

>>131721452
Kill yourself faggot. Faggots cant be priests.

christfags on suicide watch

>>131721854
Don't you have a modalism heresy to suppress? How is the planning for the Canada trip going?

>>131721569
Only one, he would swear and smoke cigars and just seemed like a decent fella

>>131721906
Yeah faggot they make you fuck a guy before you get into the priesthood and if you don't get hard you become a priest

You're aware for centuries faggots became priests because they weren't gonna marry? Kill yourself

>>131721850
Church the Holy intytution, not the building. You cant sneak or force your way into the Church.

>>131722022

see btfo again no real argument

>>131721839
Probably watched a horror movie and thought that's how things work.

>>131722099
I understand. So how did someone like the current pope manage to become the pope?

Thanks for your patience.

>>131722131
I know you by the fruits you bear and you bear bad fruits.

Our media fucking hates Christians, I'm convinced there's a concentrated effort to take them all down. I fear the rabbit hole and I know there must be a bottom

>>131722213
He was chosen by Holy Spirit.

>>131721130

Oh please, Islam is going to decimate you and you know it. Your religion is for faggots now, and will never be the same. We grew up with these people and know how they are, and Catholics are a bunch of faggots, so really you are no match for them, Orthodox christians however will beat their ass to the ground.

>>131720923

Iam by birth but I dont follow this shit, however I will call out Catholisc, cause they are 10x worse than the orthodox when it comes to this shit.

>>131721344

wew lad, this is the same lame excuse the catholic church uses now, they literally believe satan commandeered the catholic church and Catholicism, this is really their belief, if you go ask them, some will say this, that Satan took control

no, you're just a bunch of homo little boy dick sucking faggots. On top of that playing hot potato with priests and moving them around to hide that stain, and paying hush money on top of that. catholics do not take their religion seriously anymore, everybody knows this, your pope even says this. its like god had a joint and is now chill with degenerates of the worst kind.

I have now exited this thread

bye.

>>131721452

I also went to a Catholic school. It was garbage.

>compulsory mosque field trip for religious studies

T-thanks Vatican II

>>131722245
Yeah man because you know me i am so evil because i belief the word of god before the commandments of man , maybe you should burn me on the stake ? ohhh if it only were other times i would be burning right now, we know your churches fruit

>>131701221
Last year an archbishop here in Hueland resigned after a seminarist charged him of sexual harassment.

And the Priest of an ancient neighborhood in my city have some fame of having a big dicc, according to some filthy women.

>>131722170
Yeah a lot of people have a poor understanding the one true faith. (((Hollywood))) did a good job of that. Satan was allowed to live in Heaven and even come down into the garden of Eden to tempt Eve. Anyone that Satan does not stalk the halls of the Church is a fool. Saint Michael the Archangel protect us and Holy Mother Church.

At least here in Brazil, the best churches to be are the traditional Baptists and Presbyterians, and some evangelical others.

>>131722292
It is jews and secularists tricked by jews. Jews are the synagogue (translation house of learning) of Satan.

>>131711522
>offer money ("""compensation""") to anyone who makes up historical abuse allegations, mostly againdt dead proesta who can't defend themselves
>every junkie and faggot who had contact with the Catholic social services system 25+ years ago lodges a fake unprovable allegation

>>131722436
Yeah it was plenty shit. I'd never send my boys there, hot garbage.

>Everyone is your brother! Aid for Africa! Donate everything goyim!

I don't think they ever discussed religion in a global context, it was just basically a history lesson of Catholic churches from 1900 onwards with Jesus and the Bible thrown in, a little about how Martin Luther is evil, then fast forward to Mother Theresa

Such a piece of shit

>>131722412
Fallen man stained by original sin has its part but Satan is the author of wickedness.

The whole abuse scandal is Jewish misdirection. Most of the cases are from the 60's, and most of those are false accusations.

>But, m-muh coverup!

The church was praised by the media for how they handled abusers. Similar arrangements still go on in public school, but nobody seems to care.

>Priests are statistically less likely to be molesters than other groups
>Pedophilia exists in Judaism and Islam to a greater degree
>Hollywood shut down a documentary about it's own pedophile problem
>The Boston Globe ignored sexual abuse in public schools and supported what the diocese was doing in the 80's and 90's
>most of the accusations were based on unreliable testimony and questionable evidence like "repressed memories"

http://www.themediareport.com/2015/11/30/spotlight-movie-review/
http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02/29/oscar-hangover-special-why-spotlight-is-a-terrible-film/
http://www.culturewars.com/CultureWars/Archives/cw_jan98/cod_sexed.html
http://www.culturewars.com/2002/boston_ped.html

>>131701221
>Christians so quick to accuse gays of being pedophiles?

Because they are and so are these scumbag homosexuals who infiltrate the Roman Catholic church.

>>131709087
That was the fucking point you stupid fucking nigger fuck fuck fuck

>>131721274

>pizzagate is real
>priests diddling kiddies is fake

What a place

>>131722846
>oy vey goim, dont put your faith on the first place!

>>131722898
What was that thing that they did in Ireland? Like they had foster children all locked up or something? I've got a faint recollection of something really fucked up happening in Ireland with the Catholic church

>>131722480
You do not believe the word of god you turn to a incomplete Bible it is missing 7 books and you reject the authority JESUS placed in his bride especially the Vicar of Christ.

I'll leave the 99 to get the 1 you should come home to the one true apostolic Church.

>>131723051
fuck off you fucking faggot nobody wants to buy into your franchise

heres a dollar, go give it to africa, make africa great again

>>131722779
fuck off cardinal, i herd the fellas in pentridge love you rockspiders

why do organised religions still have tax exempt status, there needs to be financial pressure on churches and mosques to do the right thing or fuck off

another r

>>131723115
You remember wrong.

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>>131701221
It couldn't be cuz of projection as everyone knows only the left projects.

>>131723193
gommies will be shot

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>>131701868
Literally: Poofter Pedo Priests aren't bad it's the Lefty National Broadcaster who's BAD!

You don't think maybe that the AFP took their time because
a) They know they've got fuck all chance of getting an extradition from the Vatican, and
b)if they rush in with little or no evidence they'll get shooed out of court just like they have many times before when dealing with the Catholic Church protecting it's own?

It's cool Padre, you keep your flock safe.

Friendly reminder that defenders of pedophiles and child molesters go automatically to hell

>>131723163
You should fuck off. To china or other satanic shithole.

>>131723306
keep sucking hillsong dick faggot

imagine the possibilities if we nationalised all the churches, temples, mosques. no one under the age of 70 uses them anyway

>>131723440
>>131723255
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/03/mass-grave-of-babies-and-children-found-at-tuam-orphanage-in-ireland
http://www.thenational.ae/world/europe/nuns-in-ireland-buried-babies-and-children-in-mass-grave

Nuns in Ireland buried babies and children in mass grave

Roman Catholic religious orders ran homes for unmarried pregnant girls until well into the 1990s all over Ireland. The young women sent to them often suffered harsh treatment at the hands of the nuns who believed sex outside marriage was a mortal sin.
Oh yeah the mass graves or children and babies

>>131723427
This is why we are safe. Men of God dont abuse children.

>>131722480

See you do not respond , if you agree with me and i should be burned you admit that you are bad fruit . if you dont agree it means that the catholic church is evil , because that is what they did .

>>131723120

oh you did respond with nonsense as usual i did read the lost books , how is my bible incomplete ?

>>131706565
Fuck off shill

>>131723590
Children died and Church burried them. How is it Churches fault?

>>131723461
BWWWHAHAHA

2 millennium
200 centuries
2000 decades
2000 years

Ain't going anywhere because we are blessed by God.

>>131723805
Well I messed that up.


2 millennium
20 centuries
200 decades
2000 years

Ain't going anywhere because we are blessed by God.

>>131723037
They've been getting busted since around 2002, nobody's questioning that.

>>131701221
Gays are peophiles, almost all of them. Or at least they abuse young teenagers, it's basically how they reproduce. The Catholic Church's problem is that they thought they could allow gays into the church if they claimed to be celibate, instead of putting them in mental institutions where they belong. The ironic thing is that the Left uses things like this as a pretext to attack the conservative forces that remain in the church, thus increasing the faggotry that is allowed and the abuse that occurs. The Catholic Church is completely diseased at this point. Only a new Inquisition or a radical reformation of all Christianity could save it now. The upside of all this is that the Church itself has been an obstacle to any real radical change for a long time, the less influence the institution has the greater the likelihood that individual Catholics will realize how fucked things are. Better for Christians to be angry and lost than comfortable in a pozzed church. Accelerationism is the only hope for Christendom now.

>>131701221
those are not christians you sodomite.

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>>131724529
>it's basically how they reproduce.
"I don't understand biology: The Post."

Unless you meant propagate in which case getting bummed by a poofta priest is as likely to turn you gay as arguing with strangers on an anonymous Angolan Yak Herders imageboard is.

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>>131724529
This is a massively retarded position, though fortunately it's so fucking stupid that it's self-nullifying and guarantees this anon to perpetual irrelevance. The church has to be at least a little bit in keeping with the prevailing standards of the time in which it exists. This has always been true. It turns out that these days, hating on gays isn't something you can do. This isn't even a left position -- it's just recognizing that humans are creatures with an occasional disposition toward same-sex attraction and that no amount of theological denunciation will prevent this. The Catholic Church is indeed falling into irrelevancy, but this won't lead to a new inquisition driven by angry Catholics. Instead, it will result in the emergence of an ethical system that's appropriately adapted to the modern cosmopolitan and technological age in which we live. It's certain to be secular in Western countries because we don't need monsters in the air to explain the basics of nature to us anymore. At least your position guarantees that you'll be a neutral force as new ethical systems emerge and you wait angrily for your inquisition-to-come. You'll have about as much potency as this guy.

>>131725439
Well put.

>>131724921
>>131725439
>>131725581
>t. Faggots who got diddled as a kids

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>>131725439
No matter how much you shill for the fetish, it's still sick-making and unhealthy.

And I do hate them, now. The live and let live bullshit was just a hudna to gain time.

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>>131701221
Has anyone here read this book? I don't know I can be fucked, but would like to know the main arguments it presents against Pell. Also, the book has been withdrawn from sale now so it doesn't prejudice the trial.

>>131726354
Holy fug is there a link to the text I could download?

>>131726402
I don't think so for free. You can buy it as an ebook for kindle. I can't find it for free on any of my usual pdf lurks. There's a discussion of it here: http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/cardinal-the-rise-and-fall-of-george-pell/8526224

>>131701221
>Why are Christians so quick to accuse gays of being pedophiles? How much of that is projecting for their own sinful nature?

Priests are less likely to be pedo rapists than normals. (((They))) just love promoting the idea.

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>>131707495
Catholics have paid $4B in sex abuse settlement cases since the 1950s.*

They still have an institutional problem and their victims are always vulnerable (e.g., deaf).
http://archive.is/vnIKO

*source: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/11/09/catholic-church-leaders-send-guidance-dioceses-dealing-with-spotlight-movie/Y73IyCDYII8lEd24gq3jsI/story.html

Kill all Catholics

>>131701868
awww poor pedos getting persecuted.

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>>131725790
>someone has said something I disagree with
>best call them fags and suggest they were raped by pooftas as children

Your post says more about you than you'd probably care to admit in public let alone to yourself phamalama