Is the Vegan Pill Red or Blue?

Blue. As. Fuck. We're omnivores. I don't feel sympathy for my food.

Redpill, hitler knew vegetarian was the future. Meat wrecks your body.

>>131694934
how can you be a nazi, and not embrace animal rights you dumb fuck?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_welfare_in_Nazi_Germany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism

Blue. Swine is stupid animal and deserves to be slaughtered.

>>131694321
From my experience as with a vegan, neutral, neither red nor blue.

>>131695194
Pigs are smarter than dogs, baby humans and chimps. https://escholarship.org/uc/item/8sx4s79c

>>131694321
Well, consider this.
In what world are two pieces of fried chicken as bread, with bacon and cheese in the middle considered red pilled.

>>131694321
Blue as fuck
Vegan is pussy.

Red. It really is shitty how the whole industry works
I can't really say shit though since I work with meat for a living, but still

>>131695347
I work with them on daily basis for years and my experience says otherwise.

>>131694321
I've been vegan for ten years
it really rustles my jimmies that shitlibs think they get to claim arbitrary things as being exclusively theirs
it rustles them even harder when you guys accept and go along with such impositions without question
actually, we need to talk about this phenomenon, because it happens too often, where we go against something not because it is inherently bad, but because it reminds us of shitlibs due to us seeing them engage in it slightly more often than our side does

>>131695694
Cool, your anecdotal evidence sure does out weight all scientific consensus!

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Vegetarian is the moral or economic choice, Vegan is a nu-male 21st century fad and will die out shortly.

>>131694934
>>131695056

Classic.

My opinion is a veggie based meal is the healthiest, with meat once in a while.

But I like meat so I eat it everyday usually.

>>131694321
vegan is blue pill. It is to extreme, if you believe in it that much then seriously KYS, your mere existence harms the earth and other life on it - your consumption, your cars fumes etc etc

True redpill is vegetarianism or pescetarianism. This is the way of the future, if there were less humans on this Earth (many billions less) then meat would be far more acceptable. It still is today, if the animal had a free life in the wild and a quick death.

Is the thing the bitch in the video refers to about it requiring more pounds of food to make meat than you get out?

Seems like common sense really though. Wouldn't it violate some kinda law of physics if you got out more than you put in?

>>131694321
its not unsustainable. And do you really want to kill the meat industry? I love me a hamburger once in a while dont you? if all we had to eat was fucking fish and vegetables I would be pretty bummed out about what america has become.

>>131694321

vegan master race reporting

omni's have no arguments to defend animal cruelty and shit diet

I'm enjoying the health benefits of a plant based diet
more energy, more focus, more stamina

>>131694321
>Shit tier
Meat eater - supports mass suffering of animals

>Ok tier
Vegan - Does not support mass suffering of animals

>Master Race tier
Ethical meat eater - Supports a way for animals to live a happy life while also getting the necessary nutrition an omnivore needs for peak performance.

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>>131694321
Vegetarians and (to a lesser extent) vegans have the moral high ground and I agree with most of what they say. But I'm not a vegetarian because I'm a hypocrite and a bad person.

Most arguments in favour of meat eating are intellectually insulting.
>But we have always eaten meat
>But we have canines
etc

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>>131694321
Redpilled. Too many idiots think it's a sjw movement when it's not and fail miserly trying to tackle it as such. It's based on too many facts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT0yC2exQZU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPKt47OAvaM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBDnNgU-Tps


>>131695954
Explain.
Vegetarians in reality are just weak betas too afraid to commit to a vegan lifestyle.
>anime poster
Okay, i get it. You're just shitposting

I eat organic free range semi-happy animal meat or fish once or twice a week as a delicacy. Other than that it's whole food plant based.

Blue zones are the red pill.

>>131696463
How far away are we from ultralibs bitching about plants rights? If you don't have a right to kill an animal, how do you have a right to kill a plant? Or anything?

I get the impression that if you deduce it far enough, liberals would say the Big Bang was a mistake and nothing should have existed because as long as something exists, there is suffering.

Kind of like how PETA thinks it would be more liberating for animals to just be euthanized instead of be pets for humans.

>>131696737
>implying you're vegan because of your morals and not because you can't afford meat.

>>131696806

actually, you're a fucking faggot.

no one cares about animals. fuck you. kill yourself.

i don't care what needs to be done to get me meat at a cheap price.

>>131696809
meat is a very high protien food source. If you work hard you are going to almost need to eat meat. all the office moles can probably get away with never eating meat again though.

>>131694321
Nothing wrong with eating veggies all day, but eventually you will need to eat meat for some essential nutrients that vegetables don't bring to the table.
Now you can still choose to abstain from meat and get sick, but to replace meat with soy and pills is the biggest dietary mistake of your life.
Why?
Soy is handled by the body like estrogen, which ruins a woman's hormone system and adds to her irrationality, and feminises men into getting tits, more fat and less muscle, irrationality, etc.
Pills come from an (((industry))) which has no quarrel with its customer base paying a little bit more for their nutrients.

So, is it bluepilled?
Yes. Absolutely.

>>131694321
blue, it makes your brain a poo poo,that's why all of them are so emotional and unstable
also wrinkles

>>131697065
>fatty literally can't stop stuffing himself with diseased chicken every day

>>131694321
Vegan is bluepilled. Ovo-lacto vegetarianism can be redpilled though.

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>>131697065
>i don't care what needs to be done to get me meat at a cheap price.

Blue pill.

Veganism is a load of useless bullshit because it is trying to solve luxurious problems while we already have other real problems.

Eating meat every day is as bad as being a vegan. For best health you want to eat less meat, but you still want to eat it. Around no more than 1/3 of your meals should be include meat.

You will feel better and you won't be a pussy and a cunt like the vegans.

>>131697001

> implying you know anything about my finances

i has decent job thx

>>131697163
>but eventually you will need to eat meat for some essential nutrients that vegetables don't bring to the table.
Which ones? B12 doesn't count because the animals themselves get supplements, so you might as well take the supplements directly.

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>>131697119
Mow-a-days you can get all the protein you need from meat alternatives.

>>131697119
>If you work hard you are going to almost need to eat meat
[citation needed]

>>131697065
Men who care not for the suffering they inflict, and only care about their own hednoic pleasures must be purged ETHICALLY from our society.

Don't worry friend the gas chambers just put you into a deep sleep, you won't feel a thing.

>>131697332
but does it taste good? I hate veggie burgers. I hate tofu as well.

>>131696962
if you care about plant rights then you would still be vegan because it causes the least plant deaths, what do you think animals eat?

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>>131694321
>Animal product industries owned and memed by jews

Think that should be enough to tell you what color the pill is.

>>131696835
Veganism is retarded and unnecessary. It's just some self-flagellation nonsense in the same vein of being an anti-white shitlib. There is no reason at all to avoid dairy or eggs.

>>131697428
You can make them taste as you like it just takes talent.

>>131697389
So. You're FOR gassing humans but must we must save the poor animals?

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>>131697163
>Soy is handled by the body like estrogen

>you will need to eat meat for some essential nutrients that vegetables don't bring to the table

>Now you can still choose to abstain from meat and get sick

[citations needed]

>>131694321
Eatting Meat is American go live with Ogga Booga Berry pickers
> name a vegan who runs the world
> pro tip you can't, it's a fad lifestyle

On one hand I agree with vegans in SOME respects.

The meat industry is hugely wasteful and horrifically resource intensive.

On the other hand; humans still need meat and soy derivatives aren't always the best nutrition wise.

But honestly I'd say beef and stuff really needs to be cut down a fuckton out of the regular human diet.

>>131695194
>t.Mohammed

>>131694321
Not to mention, the more you support factory farming, the more fried chicken is available to the gibsmedat masses.

The human species needs to be culled, starting with the niggers.

>>131696962
it's never going to happen, you complete moron

>>131696962
The intelligence of the animal is what matters. It's why the biggest issue is eating pigs, then cows, then chickens, then fish.

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>>131694321
>Jared Leto Talks About Vegan Diet in Rolling Stone Interview. ... Leto is also known as a long-time vegetarian and vegan, and a few years ago, the actor credited sleep and his plant-based diet for his youthful appearance (at that time he was 41), and for his overall health.Jul 30, 2016

>tfw all your McRib sandwiches, daily 16 oz servings of beef, mercury fish will leave you looking like an old pile of shit with cancer with erectile dysfunction even in your 30's

It's a blue pill, but to understand why you need to be red pilled about the origins if Caucasians, namely, they evolved AFTER learning to eat meat and it's plausible every early wave out of Africa was caused by homo erectus learning to eat meat.

No meat, no higher brain functions.

Believing humans are naturally omnivores is a form of intelligent design, it's assuming diet doesn't drive evolution more than anything else besides intraspecies selection. Ignoring anthropology and pre history is very, very blue pilled.

>>131697498
All of agriculture is owned by Jews too, so your point is retarded.

>>131697360
a nazi vegan huh? nigga stop hiding your flag.

I guess you havent worked hard in your life if you dont know that. if you are burning a ton of calories you need lots of protien and its pretty hard to get it eating meat alternatives. >>131697507
aint got no time to be cooking up meals for lunches during the week. A turkey sandwich works pretty well and its easy to make.

>>131697593
>humans still need meat
[citation needed]

>>131697163
You have a lot of citation needed. All major medical organizations say veganism can be as healthy or healthier than omni. Soy doesnt have estrogen, it has https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoestrogens which doesnt do shit you dumb fuck. Keep being beta male listening to shit science so you get fat and die.

>>131697428
Taste doesn't justify murdering animals.

>>131697593

soy is not the only plant protein source

how about beans, nuts, etc

>>131694321
Getting enough protein from vegetables is extremely difficult. Shit like soy lowers testosterone levels.

Eating meat is part of evolution. Monkeys and Apes eat meat. Humanoids have eaten meat since the beginning. Veganism is death, vegetarian life is unhealthy.

Bread is worse for you then meat.

>>131697755
thats about as bluepilled as you can get.

>>131697532
I'm against suffering of all kind. If a human is going to cause mass suffering without any higher purpose beyond his own pleasure, he must be purged for the greater good.

>>131697505
Literally dairy and eggs are way more unhealthy for you than meat you dumb fuck. I love seeing all this beta science with no basis.

>>131697756
I wasn't saying it was the only one, just not the best.
I fucking love almond milk for the taste alone.
>>131697755
We are animals and every animal murders for food aside from herbivores, they just murder for shits and giggles sometimes.

>>131697327
Who feeds wild animals B12 supplements?

>>131694321
Blue. God created us in His image, not the animals. Vegan snowflakes want us to believe otherwise, that animals have feelings and are just the same as us. We do have the duty of taking care of them and treating them humanely but it's perfectly fine to eat them.

t. vegetarian of 10 years who took the breadpill and stopped being a faggot

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>>131697617
Um

>>131697638
He wears makeup you faggot. Most male celebs do.

Humans eating meat is just natural selection but for animals
If a pig is stupid enough to get caught by a human, it deserves to die
If a pig is stupid enough to not know how to break out of a farm, it deserves to die
if pigs ate humans, do you think the pigs would be like "you know, maybe we shouldnt eat humans cause they are animals too", they fucking wouldnt
With that being said, eating greens and fruits are necessary, but you should not be like "im not eating meat cause a less intelligent animal died to make it "

>>131697810
>Getting enough protein from vegetables is extremely difficult.

Nuts beans and grains have plenty of proteins. You've bought Jewish memes.

>>131697663
>not being sustainable
Fucking pleb

>>131697674
Strongest man in the world is vegan, whats your excuse? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrik_Baboumian 100% he burns more calories than you. You are lazy as a dindu if you cant eat vegan lmao

>>131697810
>Eating meat is part of evolution.

you've been brainwashed by the meat industry kiddo

tl;dr: we don't have a fucking clue about how our diet influenced our evolution, that is just meat propaganda

>>131697674
Are you that dumb?
>muh proteins

I bet you believe the 1g of protein per pound of bodyweight meme too

>>131697810
>enough protein

Honestly people eat a shit load more than they need. You'd be surprised how much protein one can get even before eating or drinking any animal product.
A can of kidney beans has about 40g of protein for less than a dollar.

>>131694934
Yeah, because our caveman ancestors were eating meat all of the time.. at least three times a day, seven days a week...

>>131697877
Bacteria.

>>131697938
>Blue. God

kek

>>131695056
>feed baby a vegan diet
>baby fucking dies

Many such cases. Sad1

I've determined some things about it. From a moral perspective, its pretty grey. The argument that humans are a higher species and therefore shouldn't try to create a lower species purely to harm it makes sense to me. On the other hand, food is food. A bear doesn't feel sorry for a deer when its mauling it alive. As far as the health benefits goes, most of the meat produced by the current industry is basically poison that will give you cancer. Theres also several important proteins and compounds that you need to eat meat to get, and the whole vegan bullshit where you take B12 shots for the rest of your life and eat pounds of kale a day is ridiculous. I still eat meat if it matters.

>>131698006
>he wears makeup

Just stop. I'd would have respected your post more if you straight up just called me and Leto a faggot. But really? Don't ever reply to my ID ever again.

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>>131697810
>Shit like soy lowers testosterone levels
[citation needed]

>>131698255
What? How fucking dumb are you.
>>>/The Donald/

>>131698255
way more babies die from malnutrition from omni diet you dumb fuck

>>131697877
B12 is produced in the lower gut, animals get their B12 by eating their own feces. B12 from meat products is from fecal contamination.

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>>131694321
Vegans are primitivists. We can't drink fucking milk? No eggs? No honey? Get the fuck out of here with that garbage ideology, if you don't like how animals are being raised buy a farm and do it better, don't come try to tax us and make our food more expensive.

>>131698063
>>131698067
I guess you people have the time and staff to prepare your meals for you everyday before you go to work then. If you cant understand my point then there is nothing else to say. Because I;m not going to eat a pound and a half of vegetables everyday for lunch. Even suggesting something like that is retarded.

>>131694321
We are supposed to eat mostly vegetables, fruits, nuts and grains. There is nothing wrong with eating animals once in a while, arr.

>>131698267
As a higher species why are you comparing our morals to that of a bear?

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>>131698267
>From a moral perspective, its pretty grey.

pretty grey alright

>>131698413
You are the only one suggesting that because you have dindu brain and cant figure out how to cook.

>>131698267
>A bear doesn't feel sorry for a deer when its mauling it alive
Appeal to nature fallacy
>Theres also several important proteins and compounds that you need to eat meat to get
[citation needed]
>he whole vegan bullshit where you take B12 shots for the rest of your life and eat pounds of kale a day is ridiculous
Doesn't happen. You get a lot of b12 out of things such at nut milks. B12 is a byproduct of bacteria that is supposed to be in water but because of modern filtration, it's non existent.
How do you think the cows get b12? The dairy industry supplements them.

>>131698167
Yes, all B12 is produced by bacteria...And all animals get that B12 in different ways. Some animals like rats eat shit. Some animals like cows absorb it from bacteria living in their gut. And some animals like humans get it from eating other animals.

The simple fact of the matter is meat is a natural source of B12...all meat has B12.

Plants do not have B12. A vegan diet would lead to death without modern supplements. It is an unnatural diet.

>>131698383
>Don't make me shell out more jewbucks for muh goychow

>>131698383
I don't know what's more disgusting--that photo, or the mindset of "ecosexuals"?

>>131698498
Aren't pigs kind of assholes in the wild? If you let one go in the wild for a few weeks and then tried to capture it, isn't it most likely to attack, kill, and possibly even eat YOU?

>>131698631
You can get b12 from dirt, guess what grows in the dirt? plants and fungus. Dont wash your shit, boom you get b12

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>>131698413
>I'm not going to eat a pound and a half of vegetables everyday for lunch
Why does the average meat eater think a plant based diet is stuffing pounds vegetables down your throat?

>>131695933
for a nazi you really are a pussy

>>131695954
>eating the dairy jew

enjoy your pizzaface and eczema

>>131698752
Boers are different than domestic pig.

>>131698752

I don't know anything about that and even if it were true, it doesn't justify raising them in those conditions. Animals don't know any better, we do.

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>>131698602
>Appealing to nature is a fallacy
I don't give a fuck what source you cite, this is the dumbest sophistry I've ever witnessed. Morality, politics, epistemology, metaphysics, and aesthetics must all reference the natural world, or they are floating abstractions that are of no value other than mental masturbation.

>>131698752
If you captured me I'd kill you and eat you, you drooling retard.

>>131698843
lmao the entire nazi party was in favour of animal rights. we are higher peoples for a reason. go eat animal products and die like the jews want you. GOOD GOY NOM NOM NOM

Is this whole nazi flag Vegan thing some kind of concentrated shill effort?

>>131694321
>table sugar
and
>high amounts of fructose
Are the real cancer.

Don't fall for the "meat is our problem" meme

>>131698808
They've all bought Jewish memes.

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>>131698674
You haven't explained to me why it's a benefit to stop raising cows for dairy, or bees for honey, or chicken for eggs.

>>131698760
You would also get parasites. Then you would really starve fast.

>>131698602
Just curious, but do you believe morality comes from God or from us and is there subjective?

If you say God and God says he put all this shit for us hear to eat then I don't see how there's any moral issue eating meat.

If you believe in subjective human created morality, then I guess that's where the arguments of which is the greater good comes in.

>>131698999
No. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_welfare_in_Nazi_Germany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism

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>>131698843
For a leaf you really are a...
Oh wait, nothing is worse than what you are. Sorry

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>>131698980
>go eat animal products and die
Care to link the pubmed article supporting your conspiracy theory?

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>>131698932
>because animals do it, it must be right!!!
literally a nigger

>>131699077
You still cook the plants you dumb fuck. Are americans really this retarded that they cant figure this shit out?

>>131698631
Eating factory farmed meat is also an 'unnatural' diet, if those animals didn't get supplements themselves their meat wouldn't be a B12 source since they don't graze properly.

Appealing to nature in an advanced industrial society is silly. It's actually always silly, since everything humans do is inherently natural for said humans. Making 'artificial' things is human nature.

>>131698999
Yes and checked

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>>131698999
Nazis got cucked so bad they turned into an animal rights group.

>>131697163
Anti soy is a meme, your body doesn't translate plant estrogen

Vegetarianism/empathy for animals is redpilled. That doesn't mean go hug a bear or befriend a lion. It means respect for the world in which you live. If you're a conservative, you would be behind conserving wildlife, doing minimal damage to your nation's countryside and infrastructure and just generally not being a cunt. Lots of sociopaths on 4chan find it a controversial topic and I find strong correlations with retarded American leftists and phrases like "If you don't eat meat then I'll eat 12 burgers for every one you avoid!" Is that what you want to be, /pol/?

>>131698597
youre a fucking moron.
>>131698808
If you burn a fuckton of calories you either have to have meals prepared everyday or you eat fucking vegetables how hard is this to understand? anyways nothing you people have said even comes close to convincing me to stop eating meat.

>#1 Killer worldwide is heart disease
>Heart disease is caused by saturated fat and cholesterol

Pretty fucking obvious OP

>>131699143
Sure. http://www.who.int/features/qa/cancer-red-meat/en/

http://www.pcrm.org/health/diets/vegdiets/health-concerns-about-dairy-products

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/eggs/

>>131694321
Diet for a warring population: dominated by meat
Diet for a healthy population: dominated by fish
Diet for a spiritual population: dominated by pulses and vegetables

>>131694321
It's blue. Very blue. If you want to farm without synthetic inputs (i.e. npk fertilizer, pesticides, herbicides, etc...) you need to incorporate animals into the operation. You really need to follow these rules if you want to build healthy soil without heavy soil amendments:

1) Biodiversity. Don't monocrop, and incorporate animals. With grazing animals, use planned rotational grazing patterns. Don't do what most ranchers today do, and just let their cattle graze freely. Grass's growth rate is on a sigmoid curve. If you plan your grazing around this fact, you can easily generate 4-5x the biomass per year, and biomass translates to healthy soil. You can follow up your grazers with something like chickens, to eat the insects that result from the manure.

2) Minimal soil disturbance. There is a lot of biology happening in healthy soil, and lots of tilling wrecks it. Soil biology is what provides vital nutrients to plants in the absence of things like fertilizers.

3) Always keep your soil covered. This prevents a lot of erosion that would otherwise occur. The residue of your cash or cover crops makes excellent mulch. Mulch that slows rain drops down before they get to the soil.

4) Keep a living root in the soil as long as possible. There is an exchange between plants and the soil biology. The plants provide sugars to the mycorrhizal fungi in the soil, and the mycorrhizal fungi provide nutrients that would not be biologically available to the plant, for example. No living root means that photosynthesis stops and the soil biology starves. When your cash crop is done, plant a cover crop. Or figure out how to incorporate perennials. Or go from a summer crop to a winter crop. Always keep a living root in the ground.

>>131694321
Its totally sustainable.

every single "is it sustainable" question boils down to an energy problem. ALL OF THEM

The only questions are how much we want to handicap ourselves when it comes to economical energy.

>>131694321
(((Industrial monoculture))) is bluepill whether crops or meat.
Permaculture is the final solution.

>>131699339
lmao JEW DETECTED. Maybe do some research.

>>131694321
I'm not going to read this whole thread,but if meat wasn't so delicious,we wouldn't eat it. Is cheese murder too,faggot?

>>131699061
To defeat the Jew, death itself must be vanquished. How can we vanquish death if we require death to sustain ourselves?

>Plants die hurr durr.

Plants are not sentient beings with any semblance of a soul.

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Which one do you think will make you live longer?

>diet that includes meat that's been factory farmed and as such is pumped with antibiotics and hormones

>a fucking leaf

I would probably die if I didn't eat meat. That might make me an Amerifat but I lift too much to just cut out meat completely. Would be like a zombie

>>131699427

> every single "is it sustainable" question boils down to an energy problem. ALL OF THEM

how about waste in the environment?

>>131697628
I prefer saying metacognitive awareness rather than intelligence.

I personally do not like eating mammals or birds. I think eating most fish is fine.

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>>131698980
>we are higher peoples for a reason
That's why you won the war, right? Oh wait...

>>131699380
Diet for a declining civilization: ???

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>>131699292
National Socialism and care for animals and the environment have always been connected. That's what happens when a people care about their native lands in a way that transcends the pragmatic.

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>>131694321
ITT: obvious niggers don't want to give up their KFC

>>131699607

doritos and mt dew

>>131699326
I like to think about it this way too, If there was a supreme race of ayy's, I wouldn't want them to treat us like cattle and hope they we're enlightened beings. Life is about evolving into higher forms of consciousness, it's what Hitler wanted for his people

>>131698101
Even if they weren't eating it all the time, what's your argument for stop consuming it all together? You wanna end up like the fucking panda?

>>131699573
Didn't win the war, but won the battle. How many jews have you guys killed? Oh wait, you are controlled by them.

>>131699664
>Underrated perspective

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>>131699484
>To defeat the Jew, death itself must be vanquished. How can we vanquish death if we require death to sustain ourselves?
Holy shit this is the worst opinion I've ever seen. Posts like this show how completely delusional you vegans are; saying meaningless platitudes about compassion to yourselves.

DROPPED

>>131694321
Blue as fuck, its being shilled as red here though lately, very hard too. Its especially bluepilled if its based on "muh fee fees". How do you expect to fight your human enemies if you dont have it in you to support the slaughter of "innocent animals"? And for those who oppose meat eating on the basis of "muh health", you are also retards. The only things that define good health in any practical sense are regular exercise, good sleep, no drug usage, good genetics, and a simple unprocessed diet that can contain any kind of food you want as long as it is not riddled with additives. You can be perfectly healthy on an omnivorous diet and most people are. Anyone who claims otherwise is a fucking shill who points out some irrelevant studies that "prove" some statistical change in you chance of death or disease, i.e. "if you eat red meat more than 1.583 times a week you will have a .03924% chance increase of heart failure by the age of 73.45!" Pure nonsense, literally on the same tier as "make sure to jerk off regularly goy! dont want to increase your chances of prostate cancer by .0271% now do you?!"

>>131699460
you make really compelling arguments and I will have to think about this while eating my chicken mushroom stirfry that I'm about to start.

>>131699773

Empathy is a legitimate feel, lack of it is nigger

>>131694321

Vegan = 100% blue pill.

I was vegan for 15 years, holy fuck, worst bluepilling of my life.

Try meeting a vegan who isn't obsessed with promoting diversity, self-loathing misanthropy, junk science like MUH 9 GORILLION GALLONS OF WATER TO MAKE 1 LB OF MUH MEAT fallacy, or any of the other shit you'll find EVERY VEGAN to be believing in for bluepilled nonsense.

These are the people who wanted fucking DENNIS KUCINICH to be president because, well, he's vegan, so he had to be a great candidate, amirite?!?!

Vegans, retarded every single time. Good news is, meat is the cure for it, and can bring one back to their senses in a hurry after ingesting.

>>131699384
>you need to incorporate animals
Is this realistic though to create enough food for 7 billion+ people? I mean really? What about when it's 8 billion? 10 billion?

And good luck with the argument that we need less people. That's never going to happen anytime soon.

>>131695194
They're actually quite intelligent, but they have the disadvantage of not being able to look up.

Don't vegetables have feelings too? Don't they scream in pain when you rip them out of the ground?

Eating is killing.Dont eat.

>>131699762
>Animal hormones have clogged my iq

>>131699773
Americans - think stats and science are false. jesus christ. KILL YOUR SELF

The green, nature-worshipping, neopagan new age bullshit pill.

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>>131694321
Exploiting animals is nigger tier behavior. You cannot argue against veganism without either experiencing cognitive dissonance, using a logical fallacy, or advocating the mistreatment of animals.

Veganism is redpilled as fuck. Say no to the meat Jew, and hang all niggers.

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>>131699082
Argument for animal moral value:
P1 - Humans are of moral value
P2- There is no trait absent in animals which if absent in humans would cause us to deem ourselves valueless
C- Therefore without establishing the absence of such a trait in animals, we contradict ourselves by deeming animals valueless

Argument for veganism from animal moral value:
P1 - Animals are of moral value
P2 - There is no trait absent in animals which if absent in humans would cause us to consider anything short of non-exploitation to be an adequate expression of respect for human moral value
C - Therefore without establishing the absence of such a trait in animals, we contradict ourselves by considering anything short of non-exploitation (veganism) to be an adequate expression of respect for animal moral value

>>131699773
Source or gtfo amerifat

>>131699820
I mean i dont give a shit if you are vegan, you are going to die, and I will be alive to take your property and women.

>>131699546
I be better able to respond if you told me what kind of waste you are talking about. but..

We know how to clean stuff too. Again the question is how much energy do you want to spend by cleaning waste or recycling it.

it may lower your productivity or economic competitiveness when producing the energy but none of this is a sustainability problem.

>>131699677
Confirmed

>>131694321
This is not about current events or politics.

Should be banned. Mods?

>>131699923
>Eating is killing.Dont eat.

Look up Jericho Sunfire, he agrees with you, if he isn't dead or on to his next scam already.

LET'S ALL BE BREATHARIANS, YOU GET ALL YOU NEED TO EXIST FROM SUNLIGHT AND OXYGEN GUISE!!!!

>>131694321
blue pilled most faggot thing ever

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>>131697871
Every animal also lives naked and has no desire to better themselves.

The "but it's natural" argument is fucking stupid. We can get all our nutrients from non-meat products, there is literally zero need to eat meat in the 21st century.

If you're so concerned about what animals do then why don't you live and shit in a cave like they do.

>>131699326
What do you mean respect? I respect the chicken I'm eating. I respect it by eating it whole and not wasting it.

What you vegan turds seem to forget is that like it or not within the animal kingdom we all eat each other for energy. Herbivores eat plants that are still very much alive.

>b-but muh sentience!!!

Sentience is bullshit. From here to maybe 30 years from now, researchers might conclude that plants, despite what vegans claim, might be very well alive and sentient. What you gonna do then? Change all food form to synthetic?

>>131699653
Yeah, care for the environment does not equal being a vegan pussy. Animals have a symbiotic relation with humans, vegans can't even understand the basics of farming or raising animals.

>>131699885
Vegan gains

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>>131699923
If you care about plants so much, you would go vegan because livestock consume the vast majority of crops and therefore causes more plant suffering.

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>>131699972
>Veganism is redpilled as fuck

YES, GOYIM, PLEASE BUY OUR $20/LB SEASONED WHEAT GLUTEN BECAUSE ITS GOOD FOR YOU AND MEAT IS ALWAYS BAD!!!!

Holy shit, could you at least try to do a good job convincing anyone that veganism is anything but bluepilled faggotry?

But, I'm sure your decision to wear some synthetic leather shoes made from petroleum by-products by some 10 year old in India or Vietnam really changed the world, didn't it?

>>131699989
Is that you ask yourself?

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>>131699972
>You cannot argue against veganism without either experiencing cognitive dissonance, using a logical fallacy, or advocating the mistreatment of animals.

This. People don't know how to argue. Pretty much impossible to justify eating meat without what you said.

>>131700225
tell that to collin 3rd string kappernick

>>131699972
The only issue is with feeding cats and dogs. Research shows cats cannot handle a vegetarian diet well, since they're carnivores, but there is more mixed research in regards to dogs. However, from my own pragmatism, I think both cats and dogs should eat meat, considering their evolutionary history...

The health problem with meat is the kind of shit they're pumping into animals, hormones and whatnot.

Hunting your own food is a very healthy practice.

>>131699885

It's not really a fallacy, beef takes obscene amounts of food and water to produce, it's not sustainable or even healthy

>>131700347
>pragmatism
rationale*

>>131700148
Even if the natural argument is bullshit, you can't deny that being omnivore is an evolutive advantage against other species. Why should we risk losing it by changing our diet to completely herbivore?

>>131700308
Why do people like you online always get so upset when people are vegetarian? Is it because you know you are wrong but you desperately justify your morally wrong behaviour (like atheists)

>>131699938
Yeah when they are completely fucking irrelevant in any practical sense you pussy. Congratulations, you added an extra thirty five days to your life span by avoiding meat, and even then only supposedly.

>>131699869
If you dont have it in you to kill an animal for food then you are literally fucking worthless and would have been thrown off a fucking cliff by any of your ancestors. You, like 90% of modern white males, are an utter fucking pussy.

>>131700365
Yeah, but I feel we really should give our dogs and cats meat...

>>131700308
Nice ad hominems, not one single logical rebuttal. Is this a troll or are Americans really this stupid?

>>131700357
sustainablility is a non-argument.

the sustainability fallacy is an energy problem.

>>131700357
Vegamism is not only unsustainable for the whole world, plants also need "obscene" amount of resources and land for cultivation.

>>131700434
>being omnivore is an evolutionary advantage against other species
Yes, but not to a species that can manufacture all their necessary nutrients from non-animal products.

>>131695152
This. Yes. Thank you.

What confuses me is that most vegans and vegetarians end up gay or trans. So how did Nazi have vegetarian Men, tall and muscular. What're we supposed to eat?

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>>131700467
Supposed how? Have you not looked at the adventist's studies? They out live average american by a lot. I dont give a shit what you do, you will die because MA BURGS because the jews have brainwashed you into thinking you are being a patriotic man.

>>131700434
Because it is unnecessary to consume animal products at least in modern western society.

>>131699893
>Is this realistic though to create enough food for 7 billion+ people? I mean really? What about when it's 8 billion? 10 billion?

Gabe Brown follows these principles (I included animals in the biodiversity, but he has it as a separate 5th principle,) and his production of his cash crops per acre like corn are higher than his county's average. Plus he grows vegetables, produces beef, chicken, eggs, sheep, etc... making his operation much more profitable and resilient than standard farms that do things like a corn/soy rotation. Keep in mind that his neighbors use all of the synthetic inputs, and he often outproduces them, while building heathy soil at the same time. He is using biomimicry and piggybacking off of nature rather than trying to rigidly control it. I would argue that "modern" methods will not sustainably feed us indefinitely. They destroy soil, fertilizer leaches out into the watershed and gets washed out to the ocean causing giant anoxic dead zones, nasty petrochemicals get into our food and water, etc...

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>>131699885
>I was vegan for 15 years
Doubt
>MUH 9 GORILLION GALLONS OF WATER TO MAKE 1 LB OF MUH MEAT fallacy
not a fallacy
>Vegans, retarded every single time
Meat eaters, retarded every single time

It's only not okay for cute (cats, dogs) animals to die, don't care about others tbqh

>>131699972
You fucking bigot. That carrot feels every bite you chew on Zxr. Don't tell me that carrots can't be transgendered you fucking racist.

Cabbage has feelings. How do you know they don't?

I actually think meat is racist against vegetables. A steak told me that.

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this

>>131700606
what the fuck do you think animals eat?

>>131700606
>plants also need "obscene" amount of resources and land for cultivation.
So do animals like cows.

You can industrialise the manufacture of plant products, but you can't with animals without excessively abusing them.

>>131700357
>beef takes obscene amounts of food and water to produce

Not nearly as much as vegans claim. It's as if you expect that some of us didn't do the research to prove the vegan lies wrong which turned us away from it because it's utter shite. Continually using junk science or extreme scenarios and playing them as the norm has hurt veganism a shitload over time, it's what drove me and others I know away because you have to pretty much ignore reality and be wanting to accept lies in order to believe this shit.

>it's not sustainable or even healthy

It's fully sustainable, and my bloodwork and physical results come back BETTER now each year after leaving veganism than when I was vegan.

Stop pretending that things are invalid just because you don't like them or have some bizarre moral objection to them. If veganism could stand on it's own legs as viable, don't you think that more than 0.2% of the population would have adopted it by now?

>>131700620
Its still is. You never know what's gonna happen in the future. You really wanna risk giving away an evolutionary advantage just because muh moral consistency?

>>131700208
I'm not saying you have to be a vegan and I eat high quality meat sparingly myself. But stuffing your face with heaps of factory farmed shit everyday is doing a disservice to everyone from the animal to your country to yourself.

>>131700621
The trick is to eat whole foods. The gays and trannies stuff their face with oreos and chocolate soy milk.

>>131700357
So if technology were to hypothetically advance to the point where virtually unlimited clean fresh water were a possibility along with improved agricultural crop growing techniques to make to make that nearly free, then your only argument is that eating beef is unhealthy?

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>>131700308
You know you don't have to eat meat replacements to give up meat, right? You can get sufficient protein and vitamins by eating whole foods like lentils and spinach.

You know I'd be more willing to take the onmi arguments more seriously but you just get so damned upset every time. I wonder why that is?

>>131700025
you arent going to do shit. you are just a faggot larping. those little skinny arms couldnt even pick a woman up to take her.

>>131699929
Another pointless post by a dumb vegan.

>LET'S STOP LE DEATH GUYS

D E L U S I O N A L

>>131700606
>Veganism is not only unsustainable for the whole world
[citation needed]

>>131700753
But you aren't giving away an evolutionary advantage by not eating meat. Literally all nutrients that we used to need to get from animals we can now get from non-animal products.

If we were having this discussion 50 years ago, you'd be totally right, but non-meat food manufacturing has developed massively in the last few decades.

>>131700801
Soy contains phytoestrogens which literally affects your hormone levels in no way, please don't get your facts from rebel media and infowars.

>>131700625
You are a literal fucking retard just like most veganfags. Americans dont die early because they eat fucking meat, but because they are almost all obese, leade sedentary lifestyles, eat processed shit that has nothing to do with either meat or vegetables, smoke, use drugs, are stressed out because they dont know how to take things easy, etc. There are hundreds of major factors and your dumb ass points to ONE, and decides it is somehow the most relevant.

>>131700793
I stuff my face full of elk quite often. And I have an Oryx hunt that starts Saturday, a deer hunt in November, and another elk hunt in December.

But yeah, CAFOs suck.

>>131700653
not an argument.

its unnecessary to be a vegan at least in western society

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Reminder that this half-negroid is the poster child for vegans. He almost killed his dog by feeding her a "vegan diet".

I've noticed in those environmentalist circles, where vegans are common, a profound hatred for mankind. Those people love to do some virtue signaling about how animals are treated in those cherrypicked videos, yet they wouldn't help a human if he was dying in front of them. After being in that environment for a bit, this whole distaste for other people was kinda rubbing on me.

It's a very bizarre inverted values world view some of those folk have.

>>131700606

Idiot

>>131700982
please cite. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/2014/02/12/straight-talk-about-soy/

>>131700462
>Why do people like you online always get so upset when people are vegetarian?

I get annoyed when vegans claim their junk science is reality. I personally don't care what you do with your own body, but I am irritated when you claim it's "best" when it clearly is not best for most people. It's just moral posturing to make yourself feel better when you're powerless to actually change anything in this world.

>Is it because you know you are wrong but you desperately justify your morally wrong behaviour (like atheists)

No, I respect the animals I eat now, whereas most do not. Having been vegan means I'm actually aware of how food gets on my table and what I'm eating, so I choose to buy organically fed free range meats that are humanely raised in order to have the best quality for what I eat. You can argue your MUH ANIMALS ALWAYS GET MUH BOLT GUN IN THUH END stuff, but honestly, I don't really care.

Nothing makes vegans madder than having one of their former own come out to call bullshit on a diet that's not advantageous unless you're coming off of eating packaged crap by the truckload and need a fucking clean eating plan.

Newsflash: people have eaten meat for eternity and we didn't all die of blocked colons, and since I've known a good handful of "healthy vegans" who died before the age of 50 because the diet doesn't prevent SHIT for disease or health problems for most, I'll keep calling bullshit on it.

>>131701136
not an argument

>>131700868
Then why do I always hear that doctors would unanimously advise against diets without meat for pregnant mothers and developing children?

Jews?

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>>131700347
This is why I, despite loving animals, do not keep pets. If I already had them I would follow through with my obligation to care for them by providing them their appropriate diets, but it isn't right to keep an animal strictly for my amusement or companionship, especially when it creates an artificial system where other animals must die to sustain them.

>>131694321
If you really feel pity for animals as if they were human beings then you are a cucked beyond belief. Blue pill for sure.

>>131700988
good goy

>>131701111
>He almost killed his dog by feeding her a "vegan diet"
[citation needed]
oh wait, it's bullshit

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>>131694321
>Is raising animals for meat such as pigs like in this video not actually sustainable?
What will run out and make it stop?

Or do you not know what the word sustainable means?

>>131701026
Hunting and fishing yourself are the most redpilled ways to consume meat desu.

Too bad it's nearly impossible here in this crowded heavily regulated little country.

>>131701125
That's because they are 100% domesticated humans who have no understanding of the natural world. But they think they do.

>>131700923
Oh sure. Im just gonna stay here and wait for you to tell me how are you going to grow in dessert countries or very cold ones the plants needed to sustain the whole population.

>trading

Yeah, that would take a huge amount of resources once you count population growth.

>muh supplements

Supplement B-12 was made to treat pernicious anemia, it wasn't made for you to use it as part of your diet for a lifetime. We still don't know what effects that could have on the average life expectancy, considering that B-12 was just synthesized on the 1950's.

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Farming anything is unsustainable you dumbass. The proper path for nourishment is the cultivation of natural landscapes into a veritable garden of Eden, living in symbiosis with all living things. The Jews and their demons have wrested this possibility from humanity, we must fight back or we will most certainly be extinguished as (((they))) ascend on wings fashioned of our corpses.

>>131701111
>OMG DOGS CAN'T BE VEGANS THAT MUST MEAN VEGANISM IS BAD FOR HUMANS

Humans aren't dogs. We can satisfy ours nutritional needs through fabrication, dogs can't.

>>131700462
>Implying vegans and vegetarians can ever keep their mouth shut about being morally superior.

>>131700522

So, you're mad that I've been vegan and realized how much it can suck and how I never really changed anything in 15 years and it's making your worldview shaky for your own MUH SAVING THE ANIMULS argument?

How quaint. Somehow you ignore that your position is based 100% on your feels and not on fact, but since you lack the DHA to have proper cognitive abilities and are a Bong, I'll let it slide.

>>131700982
it also tastes like 2 hour out of the shower buttholes without unhealthy amounts of salt and oils.

>>131700803

Unhealthy, Unethical, Environmentally destructive

>>131694321
eating meat for every meal is not sustainable. having meat once or twice a week is ok. vegetables are where its at, regular potatoes are good, not fried, just potato can keep u going indefinitely, rice is also good

Eating is racist . All Eaters are racist.

Stop eating.

>>131701125
I think undiscriminating humanism is a lot more disgusting. People who think we have some inherent duty to others merely because 'we're all human'.

You know what that gets you, right? Somalians.

>>131700982
That's exactly what this is. Sinead and kyle hunt are in this thread as we speak I bet. Fuck you renegade broadcast pagan faggots.

>>131701125
>virtue signaling

>going out of their way to avoid causing harm to animals
virtue signaling tho!!
Do you idiots even know what the words you use, mean?

>cherrypicked videos
jesus fucking christ

>>131701324
its still not an optimal diet by any means. and why the fuck are vegans so unhinged? they act like women.

>>131694321
>not actually sustainable?
Only if you care about overpopulation.

Our population is artificially inflated by pointless humanitiarian efforts sustaining those who should have rightfully died. Humans aren't made to live in such ridiculously tight quarters as we do in cities and in places like India and China.

Given acceptable living conditions a factory farm would produce a ridiculous amount of meat that could feed a reasonable population size with ease.

But liberals think instead of population control being the answer, we need to grow our population without limit, then complain when we run out of resources.

>>131701187
>Nothing makes vegans madder than having one of their former own come out to call bullshit

You weren't a vegan, you're obviously just using it as an arguing point and to try and flare up a response. "HUR DUR I WAS ONE OF YOU THAT MEANS I AM INFALLIBLE"

>>131701213
While I understand where you are coming from, you are ignoring the crux of the issue: Even though dogs and cats were wrongly domesticated, what are we to do with the ones currently alive? I am against euthanizing them, and I do not think imposing vegan/vegetarian diet on them is right. I think we should spay/neuter them, while doing our best to rescue them into humane societies, but this requires the need to continue other animals to provide them food. It also requires subsidizing no-kill shelters more.

It is a moral quandary.

show me a person who claims to be a strict vegan and I'll show you a lier.

>well a little butter never hurt
>well as long as they are cage free organic eggs
>Hey, we're all just out to have fun tonight I'll take a jello shot.

>>131701253
Watch his homo channel faggot, even he admitted it, why do you think he's feeding his dog meat products now, dumb LARPer?

>>131700678

>doubt
I could pull up years of photos of my attending the Animal Rights Conference in DC, or my years at Vegetarian Summerfest in PA, but since I'm not about showing myself publicly so some faggot can try to doxx me, I won't bother.

Keep believing the MUH WATER QUANTITY myths. It's really cute when you swallow all that garbage and keep claiming you're on the moral high ground while embracing lies.

How's your hemp belt holding up, by the way?

OP here guys. Thanks for the input. These are basically my findings:

>33 percent evidence vegan is redpilled
>33 percent evidence vegan is bluepilled
>33 percent evidence Jews control us through our food supply

>>131701265
Yeah, I didn't expect to draw for everything that I put in for this year, yet here I am. (Big game hunts here are on a lottery system.) Properly handled game tastes as good as I remember beef tasting when I was a kid. Now a lot of beef is MEH, or downright off, and that has to do with CAFOs and processing. I'm anal when taking care of the meat from a critter that I killed.

>>131700947
Not all and you know it. B12 needs to be taken as a form of supplements. Also, there's the taste buds that allow us to like meat in the first place (unami). After a few generations of no eating meat, we could lose them, just like it happened to the panda.

Godamn it vegans, that animal is the perfect example why we dont pussy put eating other animals. That thing is made to eat meat, but due to adaptations made by prey lost, it ditched meat all together to eat bamboo. And yeah, without us it would have been extinct a long time ago.

>>131701187
>I don't care isn't an arguement.
>If I were to humanely raise a child for 5 years then just shoot him in the head and eat him, is that morally justified, if not, then you're logically inconsistent and your argument is invalid.
> At no point in human history have we age as much meat as we have today.

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>>131701202
Citation needed.

It's hilarious that simply by the virtue of consuming animal products you will never be questioned about your nutritional intake. You could eat processed garbage and nobody would ever dare implore you if you're nourishing you or your family adequately.

You do know that you can be low in protein, iron, B12, amino acids etc. on ANY diet, right? There is nothing that the human body needs at any stage of development that MUST come from an animal source. Not even one.

>>131701298
>grow in dessert countries or very cold ones the plants needed to sustain the whole population
you're talking about a small portion of the population which doesn't apply to you at all


>Supplement B-12 was made to treat pernicious anemia, it wasn't made for you to use it as part of your diet for a lifetime. We still don't know what effects that could have on the average life expectancy, considering that B-12 was just synthesized on the 1950's.
What the fuck is this? Literally nigger education

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>>131695745
Over 20 years here. The increased test kicks in after a while.
>>131694321
Red. No doubt.

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Aryan vs Jew

Blue as fuck. The true red pill is eating everything eatable that you can get

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>>131694321
The most retarded thing about veganism is you can't eat any animal at all.

Why not "Don't eat mammals" or some shit like that?

How the fuck am I gonna empathize with a chicken or a sardine?

I don't eat pork, though, but mostly because I'm a hipster who follows a Muslim diet.

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>>131701562
>I am against euthanizing them, and I do not think imposing vegan/vegetarian diet on them is right. I think we should spay/neuter them, while doing our best to rescue them into humane societies, but this requires the need to continue other animals to provide them food. It also requires subsidizing no-kill shelters more.

I agree with all of this, actually. Care for the ones that exist and spay them to end the cycle.

>>131701738
unless you bleed from your vagina regularly or have a disease like cilliac you arnt going to be low on iron unless you are vegetarian/vegan.

>>131701324
The point is that vegans are fucking retarded nutjobs who think even strict carnivores like cats should be eating vegan food only.

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>>131701563
Anytime you try to do anything, you're going to be hypocritical, but I've never had any problems with avoiding those three nasty non-food items

>>131701776
>can't argue for my shit way of life being sustainable
>let's use the u nigger card while I post with the ebin nazi flag

You're below a nigger.

>>131694321
Meat eating isn't sustainable but I'm not having kids so I don't give a fuck.

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>>131701845

>using your body as an indiscriminate landfill
>redpilled

>>131701244
Putting up a nazi flag as you post doesnt convince anyone that you are actually a national socialist, certainly not me. You are obviously a lefty infiiltrator who wants to spread his cancerous feeble minded and effeminate attitudes to unsuspecting newfags. I am on to you nigger.

>>131701804
Truth

>>131701591
>even he admitted it
[citation needed]

>>131701887
those cows hanging like that are the kosher method.

>>131701563

You're thinking of vegetarians, not eating butter or eggs is not hard at all

>>131694321
Can the animals reproduce as fast as or faster than we eat them? If so, it's sustainable.

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>>131701988
feeding cats tuna, chicken, cod, any of it is utterly unnatural -- those aren't animals cats kill and eat. When you're feeding your cat mice and crickets you will have an argument, until then you're not a whole lot better

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>>131701324
Dogs eat meat, therefore owning a dog is morally wrong. The thing about vegans is that they love animals so much that they want all animals to be dead and far from humans.

Tomatoes are grown next to chickens so they can eat the vermin that try to eat the tomatoes. What do you have against that, faggot? Should we use pesticides instead? Is it okay to eat the chicken if it dies in an accident? Can we eat the eggs or should they only be used for reproduction?

The truth is that you're all virtue signalers, you have no idea how intricate our relationship with animals are, and that is why you will never, ever win.

>>131702007
your b-12 ramblings are just that, unintelligible ramblings that make no sense

>>131702014
>thinking humans = carnivores

nys

>>131694321
What do you mean, "not sustainable"? Pigs have been managed by humans for over 10k years. Seems pretty sustainable to me.

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>>131701776
See pic related? If you want to fix that, reintegrating animals into the farm in an intelligent way is going to be a necessary part of the solution.

>>131702062
Ad hominem, not an argument.

>>131694321
true Aryans are vegan. everything else can't be justified in this day and age.

>>131695347
And Irishmen

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>>131702197
Shut up nigger. And change that flag to Black Nationalism or gay flag.

>>131702208
I don't think I can argue with this.

>>131702062
i dont give a shit you fuck, national socialism is a movement that includes animal rights.

We even have a nazi vegan cooking show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtfGmPV59Tc

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>>131701882
Chickens a cute.

It's harder to sympathise with most fish though. They look empty inside.

>>131698101

You're talking about a carnivore, not an omnivore you fucking idiot.

>>131702240
lmao

>>131694321

If you're vegan you're Blue pilled. Before man could hunt he picked berries

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>>131702197
you arent as smart as you think you are. Youre just arguing like a woman.

>>131702239
If you faggots want to graze, go right ahead. What's irritating is when you rabbits decide you know what's best for everyone else. Humans are omnivores, and most of us are staying that way, despite your delusions.

>>131702602
Not an argument. I swear to god you're no bullshit or ranting monkey in disguise.

>>131702558
>before man could hunt

There has never been such an age, hunting preceded humanity.

>>131697661
Eating didn't lead to higher brain functioning... HUNTING did though. Most meat eaters don't hunt. Also humans have invented a number of new ways to challenge and push our mental capabilities.

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>>131702397
berry picker as fuck

>>131702397
Animals dont have any fucking rights, they are beneath us. You are either a woman, which explains your unreasonably emotional stances on all this, or a total fucking effeminate faggot. Hating niggers and jews doesnt make you a man, you actually have to have masculine virtues besides.

All you arguing for omni will never look like a true proud aryan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bXGXa5Z_FE

>>131702138
>>131702002

Every vegan cheats.
Anyone here that meets a vegan IRL can talk to them, and find out for themselves how they cheat. ALL of them cheat. The ones vocal about promoting it will say they are strict, but in private they will tell you the truth.

If you become vegan you will cheat too, because your body craves fat, collagen, and proteins that arnt present in vegetables.

You can spot long term vegans from across a room because because they look just like someone that's had a vasectomy.

>>131702899
Tell that to the strongest man in the world who is a vegan you dindu

>>131702688
And you're probably AskYorself with a proxy. Listen skinny asshole, the only "valid" argument against meat eating is moral consistency, and that's still hardly debated bacause you couldn't prove shit unless you invoke the "superior alien specie" scenario.

>>131702433
Listen here you little jack wagon. How dare you say fish look empty inside. Fish are the richest creatures. It's like you want to wage a war against fish.

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>>131694321
Blue pill. Most scientific sources link our growth in intelligence to the consumption of meat. Going from fruit eating tree dwellers to plains walking scavengers. The meat added proteins that enabled more brain growth, add in natural selection where the smarter you were the more you ate and the more likely you were to survive.

>>131702397
national socialism doesnt even include human rights, your a fucking retard.

national socialism is not an individualist ideology, you are simply wrong on this.

>>131702621
omnivore doesn't mean you have to eat animals. often people give the impression they think it means that.

>>131703008

>everyone is secretly gay

your argument in a nutshell fagtard

>>131703139
How does any of that matter now when food that is non meat, meets all nutritional requirements? The meat you eat is supplemented with the nutrients now a days. The only thing this thread has show me is the rest of the west is enlightened and americans are controlled by the jews and arguing against science.

>>131703038
I have no idea who you are referring to first of all, second of all there are many extremely strong men including competitors in the worlds strongest man competitions who are just as strong if not stronger than whoever the fuck you are talking about, and third of all if he is on the level of the other pros then he isnt strong because of his fucking diet but because of the steroids, his diet didnt make him strong if there are other meat eaters who are just as strong, this is basic logic you fucking brainlet.

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>>131703081

>>131703208
Cool. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_welfare_in_Nazi_Germany

>>131703279
that wasnt an argument, that was a statement of fact.

dont try to misrepresent what I said.

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your body is made to eat a mix of things

if you stray from this its not better for you

plz stop.

>>131702814
Hunting is a more efficient food source than foraging, which is the theory for why it caused rapid expansion of the cranial volume.

If it were just hunting, you'd see some ridiculously high SDs in intelligence especially for male/female distinctions. There's some differences, that's obvious because better hunters got more sex, but the difference I'm looking for is that women would still be chimp like in mentality. That's if diet has no effect and the only effect was the competition caused by hunting, we'd have really, really dumb women, like I know this is 4chan, but I mean every woman would be a legitimate retard.

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>>131694321
Being against the excessive suffering, all of the abuse, and the environmental problems that come out of factory farming is redpilled. Being vegan for health reasons or because you just don't care for meat is fine. Becoming a vegan faggot who makes their diet a religion is extremely bluepilled.

A redpilled solution to factory farming is to buy locally. Not only do you get better, fresher food, you also boost your local economy and help out your neighbor. Everyone wins when you buy from farmers who aren't pieces of shit.

>>131695954
This, basically.

>>131703296
If you don't know who I'm talking about, you dont know shit about strength competitions. Don't argue what you don't know you stupid american lmao.

>>131703208
Read up, senpai:

> Adolf Hitler and his top officials took a variety of measures to ensure animals were protected.[2] Many Nazi leaders, including Hitler and Hermann Göring, were supporters of animal rights and conservation. Several Nazis were environmentalists, and species protection and animal welfare were significant issues in the Nazi regime.[3] Heinrich Himmler made an effort to ban the hunting of animals.[4] Göring was a professed animal lover and conservationist,[5] who, on instructions from Hitler, committed Germans who violated Nazi animal welfare laws to concentration camps. In his private diaries, Nazi Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels described Hitler as a vegetarian whose hatred of the Jewish and Christian religions in large part stemmed from the ethical distinction these faiths drew between the value of humans and the value of other animals; Goebbels also mentions that Hitler planned to ban slaughterhouses in the German Reich following the conclusion of World War II.[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_welfare_in_Nazi_Germany

>>131703139
Blue pill. Most scientific sources link our growth in intelligence to the consumption of meat. Going from fruit eating tree dwellers to plains walking scavengers. The meat added proteins that enabled more brain growth, add in natural selection where the smarter you were the more you ate and the more likely you were to survive.
[citation needed]

>>131703252
Omni means "all", meaning we can eat everything that isn't poisonous. That includes animals, which are very yummy. Quit telling me how to live, and being wrong when you do it.

>>131703047
And not the health and environmental impacts as well you fucking moron. The fucking nazi's themselves were pro animal rights, but you only support them when they suit your interests best, inconsistent nigger.

Oh and the alien species is a hypothetical argument, your inability to debate using hypotheticals only proves your nigger tier iq

>>131694321
I'm feeling pretty good about only eating animal products one day a week (the day I drink). Sometimes when I drink I just eat fries or springrolls, so I guess I don't even eat animal stuff every week.

>>131703252
Ok...and what food is magically from both kingdoms and still considered vegan?

>>131703208

>I eat Jewish memes for breakfast everyday

>>131703582
bivalves.

>>131703208
>national socialism is not an individualist ideology
dude, natsoc has private property. It's the most individualist socialism gets.

>>131703496
Its a shitposting leaf. when I find out who made the camo flags I'm going to ring his fucking neck.

We have evolved from the depth of being, from dirt, we have ascended, it is time to vanquish death.

>>131701887
>this requires the need to continue other animals to provide them food
I made a typo. I meant to say this requires the need to continue slaughtering other animals to provide them food*

>>131703526
Health and enviroment, as discussed in this thread is bullshit. B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T nigger. Enviromentaly plants need land (and not any land) to grow. Climate also exists. Is not sustainble damn it!

And haven't you notice that AskYourself loves to use hypothetical scenarios, but quickly gets all butthurt if others use other hypothetical scenario? Take my, what would happen if we loose the ability to process meat and suddenly a certain specie of plant or component to obtain the B12 nutrient becomes scarce? What the fuck then?

>>131696962
The left in their emasculating agenda have made people think violence as a whole is something bad, the whole bullshit about pacifism, as if having to do some self defense after being threatened isn't going to involve violence at all. The global citizen of the NWO has to be all sanitized and a good little sheep who will offer his neck to whoever comes to kill him.

The whole "but it's killing!" garbo of the animal worshippers cult is part of that pacifistic castration agenda.