!!!! HAPPENING !!!!

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>>131690621
Berg, every time something falls apart.

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>>131690621

i hope it floats into australia and sicks the whole continent

>>131690744
Point out the pin prick that is Delaware!!!

>>131690830
Protip - AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>131690621
Probably enough fresh water in it to supply my city with water for a thousand years, wasted.

>>131690621
Dela-where?

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>>131690621
Scientist here, I call it bullshit

Antarctica's isn't a normal ice plate it's hundreds of meters deep rock strong ice

>>131690742
kek

>>131692585
>scientist
>doesn't know that this happens all the time cuz of climate change

I call bullshit

>>131690621

> Implying there is a world of ice on Earth

Topkek, take da bluepills fagit.

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>>131690621
when will /pol/ accept climate change is real?

>>131690742
fpbp

>>131690621
sterilize or nuke the niggers and we wouldn't have to deal with this global climate change shit

>>131692585

Honestly it's a lot more hyped up than it should be.
Worse case scenario is, and IF it does "fall off", a tsunami. Even then, it'll be so small it won't effect anything too much.

I think climate change is kind of real but we humans are definitely not the main cause. We obviously have had some slight negative impact on the environment ( iefinding lead in antarctic ice back when lead fuel was popular) but when it comes to greenhouse gasses I don't think we've emitted even a small percentage of the existing gas

>>131693380
You realize that breakoff ice melts, evaporates, and then is replaced on Antartica via snow precipitation right?

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>>131693693
>when will /pol/ accept climate change is real?
When the science actually shows that instead of contradicting you hysterical retards.

>>131692585
Astronaut here, I am writing from the ISS

>>131690621
We just had House Bill 222 thrown the fuck out, which would have allowed SJWs to go to a court, tell the judge their relative or significant other was a threat to themselves and others, and the court would allow the police to seize all firearms owned by the person without due process. Big success for Delaware gun owners. Bill was introduced by a Jew and pushed by 3 women and 1 white guilt faggot.

>>131693693
AAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>131693693
I think /pol/ agrees that climate change is real, but that mankind has had no influence on it whatsoever.

>>131690621

>live in Delaware

Its really not...

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>>131690742

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Isn't something like this literally the plot of The Day After Tomorrow?

also, is pic related related?

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>>131693693
When will you stop buying your wonderful Chinese goods and start fighting the over population of 3rd world countries to fight climate change?
Get out there a start handing out condoms and vasectomies.

>>131690621
>Delaware is a fucking MASSIVE piece of land!
Meh, this is pretty trivial as ice calving goes. Antarctica does this all the time and always has.

Is this the iceberg that they're going to use to turn the Arabian Peninsula into a "Paradise"?

>>131691260
But you niggers don't drink water, only purple soda.

>>131690621
We're all going to die.
It's confirmed.

>>131694149
climate change has always been happening

The man made shit is taxation without real science

Especially that they model is always WRONG..every single prediction they have made is bollocks...

Therefore according to the scientific method, you must formulate a new hypothesis, not twitter more false predictions

>>131692585
> scientist here
not for long if you dont side with us motherfucker, hows your wife and kids?

>>131690744
that's not bad for scaling, but how big is it in relation to Texas?

>>131690621
Ice(((berg))), every fucking time...

>>131694221
I'm guessing you are in shitty Wilmington/Newark and not master race Camden, Harrington, Bridgeville?

>>131693868
>Even then, it'll be so small it won't effect anything too much.
It's already floating, which means it literally cannot raise sea level when it melts. This happens all the time and the libtards are trying to make it seem special.

"Dear God: Summer is warmer than winter! This PROVES global warming!"

>>131690621
damn

you got my hopes up

I thought Delaware was going to break off and float away.

>>131690621
But if a giant iceberg breaks off, won't it just cool the oceans and thus the planet like the ice cubes in my Coke from McDonald's?

>Muh polar ice caps are disappearing
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses
What did NASA mean by this?

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>>131694355
confirmed, death is imminent

>>131694115
I wish we could send all Brazilians to space. Straight to the sun. Then the white man will make your country great.

>>131694506

Anything south of middletown here is methcentral. I'm just outside of UD. Newark.

>>131694454
kek

>>131690744
That's a big iceberg

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>>>131690742

>>131694450
Who cares. Yes im in Texas alphabet nigger. Come get me

>>131694717
You are in the middle of niggerville then. RIP. Meth is in Felton, Hartley, Milford

>>131690744
1ptruepost

>>131694714
That would ruin your economy...200 million people sent into space, towards the sun

You should consider keeping the germans to the south, they don't race mix

>>131694690
I need some anti-depressants anon. I'm so suicidal I can't take it.

>>131690621
this story is like 7 months old and it hasn't happened yet

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/12/07/...delaware...iceberg.../95118946/

>>131691260
>wasted

Where the fuck do you think it's going to go? Fly off into space?

>>131690621
Solution, Live at altitude.

>>131694149
>I think /pol/ agrees that climate change is real, but that mankind has had no influence on it whatsoever.
This!

When libtards say "climate change," what they mean is "pretend humans are changing the world's weather even though the science doesn't show that."

>>131694115
timestamp in a spacewalk plox

>>131690621
like op's mom's butt

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>>131695199
Solution, live at your mothers house and hide behind her.

Weird almost like the Earth is at the end of an ice age millions of years in the making.

I blame Trump, he had a chance to stop this with the climate accord, now it's clearly too late and we face certain death, sad.

>>131695405
Better turn over dat checkbook nigga!!!

>>131695319
I will send you a space pic of my nuttage floating in zero grav....

>>131694796
For the Titanic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs9w5bgtJC8

>>131690744

How many baseball fields is that?

>American units of measurement.

>>131695679
Absolutely this. We had a chance to possibly reduce the average global temperature by a whole 0.5 degrees C. The moment we withdrew from the agreement, the climate sensed our weakness and starting this catastrophic chain of events!

>>131694544
Nigga, you do understand how water displacement works right?
Try taking a bath, you're in the water, not moving, everything is still.
Then you move your hand around the water and it causes ripples.
The water doesn't increase but it causes movement and the ripples rush around decreasing in power getting smaller until things flatten out.
With the Iceberg that'll break off, and mind you this shit happens all the time, is just like that. The iceberg is your fat ass while the tsunami is the ripples.
By the time those "ripples" reach anywhere it will not cause anything but a small wave height increase by maybe a millimeter at most in some places.
But of course "liberals" are gonna hype it up, they get them fatty green dollars and get to fill in their kink of shaming those who don't follow their "rules" while causing panic.

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>>131694105
That's pretty outdated.

>>131690744
Looks like 50 more states to me.

>>131693693
>muh global mean
Yea because statistically they could accurately represent a massive data set, with varied instruments, down to 0.5C. Even modern models are at +/-1C confidence.

CO2 is a better model because it's absolute and the variance in concentrations across the planet is small.

>>131694149
Man produces <5% of natural CO2 emissions. Problem is that the earth only absorbs half of that, while it absorbs almost all of natural.

Yes we are influencing the planet, so what you gonna do it about it? I know, some Jew Globalization scheme that will have little to no impact on climate but will cost trillions and make everyone poorer and easier to control.

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>>131694395
>Especially that they model is always WRONG..every single prediction they have made is bollocks...


absolutely false.

the very first projections made underestimated climate sensitivity by a significant amount, and so was basically discarded

pic related, projection was from 1981

>>131693693
>1870's is the earliest recording date

>>131695149
Into the sea to be tainted by salt and fish poo.

>>131694149
Yes. It is unwise to enter a (manmade) climate change debate and say climate change isn't real. Because climate change happens without human intervention and is a sure thing. When they cracked open this ice covering the the Norse settlements it immediately smelled like decomposed grass because that was once farmland. Frozen over due to climate change and not manmade climate change. It happens. It's cyclic. If you deny climate change even though you mean within the context of manmade climate change these rhetoriticians will use it against you so don't do it.

Similarly you have to make sure you say "on a global scale". On a small scale manmade "climate change" is also true... air conditioning for example. You got to choose your words carefully in these debates because they will try to call you out in an autistic fashion using a technicality. Jews are exceptionally good at this because pileup is a large part of their culture

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>>131695895
>American measurements
>not done in burgers (mass), fries (displacement), and big gulps (volume)

>>131690621
Ooooh, suuuuuper spooooopy!

>>131696260
Wouldn't want to awkwardly bring up times in history when it's been hotter despite a lack of industrialization.

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>>131696151
>Yea because statistically they could accurately represent a massive data set, with varied instruments, down to 0.5C. Even modern models are at +/-1C confidence.

Why not? Every region has the same trend.

>>131695149
It will become like white genes in Africa or Mississippi - dissolved in a sea of poison.

>>131696193
AHAHAHAHAHAHHA

no more snowfall by 2000 (East Anglia)
no more ice caps by summer 2015 (east anglia)
collapse of the skiing industry by 2015 (EA)

Those 3 are enough for a FAIL as per the scientific method.

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>>131692585
Former President Obama here. Nothing to worry about. It's quite normal for large landmasses composed of ice to shed the excess. Kinda like how our fingernails grow and need to be cut!

>>131695895
Baseball is dead. 100% wetbacks in baseball now. We like to watch niggers destroy their bodies for the table scraps of billionaires

>>131695385
why?

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>>131696260
The warming is unprecedented no matter how you look at it. There's absolutely no natural phenomenon that could be causing this rate of warming.

>>131690742
fpbp

>>131696462
No one ever mentions record setting high and low temperatures. It was once 100F in Alaska like 100 years ago

>>131696406
But were talking area.
Of course, the correct unit is football fields.

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>>131695736
via USB line?

>>131696630
12,000 years ago isn't 4.5 billion years ago

>>131696003
>> 0.5 Celsius
>> roughly 1 FULL degree Fahrenheit

Clearly 1 Full degree Fahrenheit is more then 0.5 degrees Celsius.

What are you fucking retarded?

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>>131696520
Not sure what you're talking about here. Also, are you not going to dispute that figure? I thought every model was wrong.


Here's another figure. This one is from 1988 and is based on the very first climate model produced

>>131696630
You do know that all that shit is fake. There is a youtuber that discovered they are adding 3-5C every day as compared to the ACTUAL recorded temperature.

Look it up

>>131694450
You can fit 2 Antarcticas inside of Texas

wtf is with all this sperging about some ice breaking off. we can prevent sea level rise by making a huge hole in earths crust and let all the excess water be vaporised away when it touches the lava etc

That's actually really cool.
I'd like to see that, but we rarely have the opportunity to. There's so much awsome shit to experience on this planet, but no chance to do so.
That's fucking sad

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>>131692585

Aliens or Antarctica nazis ice sculpture!!???
We've missed a good party.
Plenty of vodka shots could have been cooled through that.

>>131696753
What ever turns on the internet....I could do nutting trick shots and start a whole new genre of interstellar porno

>>131696714
>area
That's fry squared m8, also known as a medium fry.

>>131696766
So? What's your argument?

Seriously, how could it just be coincidence that as humanity industrialized, temperatures started increasing rapidly?

that happens all the time though

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>>131695895
>>131696406
Plebs.
Area is football fields. Data is Libraries of Congress. People is 747's. Length/Height is Statues of Liberty.

>>131696606
I still like the spirit of the game. It's much better to go to a minor league game in person though. MLB is dominated by teams willing to buy a championship?

ICEKING, ICEKING, DO NOT ANSWER. OSCAR PAPA INDIA SIERRA FOXTROT ALPHA GOLF GOLF OSCAR TANGO.

TIME: FIVE ZERO AUTHENTICATION: TANGO JULIET

THIS IS TUNDRA OUT.

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>>131696572
Dalai Lama here listen to the former president.

>>131696630
>> No natural phenomenon

Nigger the sun is 109 times the diameter of earth and not that far away. A single degree off orbit and we all burn to death immediately. Sea level rise (scientifically impossible) would be the LAST of your worries

>>131696871

You're ignorant as fuck and don't know what you're talking about.

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>>131696903
>LOL
>Steam rises
>Condenses
>Creates flash folds as massive rainfall
>Muh science.

>>131694840

Perfect.

>>131690621
Thank heavens, we'll have enough ice for margaritas on the 4th

>>131696861
The models regarding climate change were trash science when wikileaks caught East Anglia (the church of climatology) hiding the decline.

You can't possibly believe the science behind this trash when it is clear there was significant fraud committed by the very people at the forefront of the movement

Even the founder of the weather channel, a climatologist, blasted CNN for promoting this blatant fraud.

Giving funding only to those that want to prove climate change ...not to those who want to actually study it without bias

Fucking Antoine Levoisier is break dancing in his grave

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>>131697186
Solar radiation has not increased significantly (it's actually decreasing) and Milankovitch cycles should sending us into another cooling phase.

It's not the sun.

>>131697188
Lmao global warming is your religion

You have FAITH!!!

Won't the ice crack fill in with new ice and actually expand the amount of ice Antarctica has?

>>131696484
>A graph compiled by IPCC.
Really makes you think.

The problem is people don't understand statistics, confidence and other variables.
>where is the station located?
>Is the sensor located above asphalt? In a city? In a tree canopy? In direct sun?
>who is operating the station?
>how many stations are there?
>where were the new stations added?
>what type of sensor is used? Manufacturer? When was it last calibrated?
>etc
Try doing this 1000x times and accuately calculating a mean within 1C with 95% confidence. You can't. There are many professional journals that have already thrown out the global mean meme.

CO2 is much easier because I don't have to compile numbers from over a thousand stations.

>>131697188
Even the founder of the weather channel, a climatologist, blasted CNN for promoting this fake ass shit

are you a climatologist?

>>131691260
t.flint?

>>131697077
How do you know that? Where's your evidence

>>131697467
This

>>131697436
If the sun is decreasing in activity, then the <global warming> effect cannot increase.

The only source of climate change comes from the sun, its radiation is the driver

You just made yourself look stupid ...Jesus christ you people are fucking gullible

Even after rampant fraud from East Anglia, you continue to peddle this drivel

>>131697418
There is absolutely 0 evidence they manipulated the data, hell, if you can prove it please do so. All the data is publicly available. Also "hide the decline" had nothing do with temperature data, you can read more here.

https://skepticalscience.com/Climategate-CRU-emails-hacked.htm

>>131697436
AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA

You retarded nigger you think the earths constant movemoment NEVER changes even in the slightest!!!

Yet We've had hot and ice ages several times in earths history with 1/1millionths the earths human popluation at those points

HOLY FUCK WHY ARENT YOU DONATING YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY?!?!?!?!?!

>>131692585
God here, fuck you you're wrong

>>131697984
WHAT!!!!! wikileaks got into East Anglia and posted an e-mail from the direcror telling his people to HIDE THE DECLINE...are you serious

They even had the fucking guys name, time stamp....

Even killary Kliton and podesta admitted the e-mails were authenthic

shame on you

>>131690621
>Glaciation isn't in long cycles
>Didn't you know anon? Glacier have been around forever and will always have supposed to be there.

>>131697467
No.

When Ice breaks, more surface area is exposed, more sun exposure, faster melting.

We are in a warming period, have been since the little ice age. The only areas where ice is growing is where the snowfall excessive enough that it doesn't melt in the warm season. This is pretty much exclusive to just a few mountains.

>>131693693
>fakenews

>>131697694
Flint would be fine if they reconnected to the Detroit water system.

Detroit's water is actually the cleanest and safest in the nation.

>>131698289
We are heading back into a mini ice age, look up dunce caps graph up there...he even admits the sun has decreased in activity

solar radiation is the source of the entire system you bunch of loons

>>131696341
Damn, the ocean, where water stays forever. Maybe we can set up a bunch of heat guns to boil it off? Like a large nuclear powered light bulb, high up in the sky that would cover a point in the ocean for 8-12 hours at a time.

>>131698289
Lack of sun exposure is why Antarctica is frozen you fucking retard

>>131697515
The figure is meant to demonstrate a trend and is for public consumption. All the rest of the information you're seeking for is publicly available.

>>131697603
he's a meteorologist, not a climatologist.

>>131697700
Are you asking for evidence that CO2 is a greenhouse gas?

>>131697944
Like I already said, you're fucking ignorant. The earth is warming because CO2 re-emits the radiation back to earth. The less CO2, the less radiation that's trapped in Earth's atmosphere.

>>131698240
Holy shit kid, just skim through the link.

hahahahaha how is climate change even real nigga like turn off the weather forecast

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As the purple sage said "The earth quakes and the Heavens rattle; the beasts of nature flock together and the nations of men flock apart; volcanoes usher up heat while elsewhere water becomes ice and melts; and then on other days it just rains. Indeed do many things come to pass."

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>>131698486
>Antarctica doesn't get sun
k

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Give me one reason why I should care.

>>131694319
This shit is more vague than astrology horoscopes, with the exception of maybe three being very specific (e.g., "The bear will leave its cave forever", referring to Russia coming out as a big world player).

Kinda looks like a road more than a crack....

>>131698632

Climatologist John Coleman, founder of the Weather Channel, was recently interviewed on the Glenn Beck Show (November 12, 2007)

<CO2 re-emits the radiation back to earth>
so with less radiation coming in, no matter how much CO2. you won't drive temps up...

WOW...burger education at its best

>>131698714

Here is the kicker...CNN promotes this shit....
The most FAKE NEWS outlet is on your side. That should tell you that you are fucking losing your mind

>>131696903
Surely nothing could go wrong in this scenario.

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>>131693693

>>131693693
we know its real, we just dont care.

cant wait for libshit cities to flood.

>>131699511
A Finn thought of it, so things can only go right.
>Looks at Karjala longingly.

>>131698486
>Hello, I'm am retarded and I like to post funny frogs on 4chan

You can't be serious lad.

>>131699626
give me a break, CNN promotes this fake science....why? FAKE FUCKING NEWS

>>131690621
>planet getting so hot the earth breaking off a chunk of ice to keep the fish cool like a soda in summer

>>131699609
Better world is subjective. ex. a world without drinking straws is a nightmare for down syndrome people and midgets

>>131698938
Why is Antarctica larger than the Arctic ice-wise?

>>131697436
>Plotting solar radiation as a TEMPERATURE ANOMALY

First off, that data is bullshit and tells next to nothing about global solar impact because it doesn't account for the surface area of the earth that is exposed to solar radiation.

Second: Lack of variation does not mean it is decreasing, you fucking tard. It just means the sun is surprisingly consistent over the small period of time some form of data has been gathered.

Delawarian here, AMA

>>131700119
ice over land mass down south

>>131699333
Not surprising that you get your info from the Glenn Beck show. He's a meteorologist. Not climatologist.

>so with less radiation coming in, no matter how much CO2. you won't drive temps up...

Sure, there's a point in which the earth will cool if the sun's activity decreases enough, but it's not anywhere near that point. Here's a question for you, if CO2 isn't a GHG, and the sun is cooling, then why are we warming? What natural phenomenon can you point to that explain's the rapidity of our warming?

>>131699486
not an argument

>>131700236
If anyone else is versed in the english language please translated for this retarded faggot

>>131700119
probably because it's surrounded by ocean which doesn't have the temperature fluctuations land mass does. The arctic is surrounded by land.

tl;dr
What's happening here?

>>131700279
Nigger the earths orbit around the sun can vary by thousandths of a degree and change tge temperatures on earth.

Are you fucking stupid? Disconnect your internet

>>131700221
Milankvoitch cycles don't make a significant enough impact to make a difference.

>Second: Lack of variation does not mean it is decreasing, you fucking tard. It just means the sun is surprisingly consistent over the small period of time some form of data has been gathered.

It IS decreasing, albeit slightly. Still, using the sun as an argument against the anthropogenic component of climate change is completely stupid since it supports our claims.

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>>131698632
>All the rest of the information you're seeking for is publicly available.
That's true, and yet over 90% do not meet the class to be withing 1C let alone 0.5C

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Tfw I'm from Ushuaia, Tierra del fuego.

>>131700424
Please end your life. You are not necessary for the survival of humanity

>>131700279
John Coleman.....climatologist and the 33,000 scentists that happen to agree man made global warming is a joke and shit science.

Al Gore, a fucking politician is behind this entire fear mongering and you think politics and science mix and no agenda is being pushed forth.

The fucking earth is not getting warmer. You are being fed total bullshit by people who have shown to be frauds.

East Anglia predicted that there would be no more snowfall by 2000 and no more ice caps by summer 2015...yet the arctic ice is still there and is getting thicker

Even NASA admitted that their satellite assessment of the ice thickness was incorrect and stated that the ice is EXPANDING and had reached levels seen in 1972. This corroborates the data that the sun is decreasing in activity

>>131700227
How many minutes does it take to walk across your state?

>>131700373
The ice is over a land mass

you must be the unfortunate load that dribbled out of your mom's asshole

>>131690621
IF THE GOVERNMENT IS INVOLED ITS PROBABLY A LIE

>>131700119
Ton of factors, but I would argue the main reason is ocean currents. North Atlantic current is much warmer than the circumpolar current.

>>131700921
Not to mention CNN is behind that shit full throttle

So you know it is a fucking lie

Politics and science don't mix

>>131700571
I think you mean Milankovitch, tard.

You still have no argument against why this data doesn't account for the surface area of the earth exposed to solar radiation per unit time.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

>>131700906
Even if Antarctica was over an underwater mountain still 99% of the ice is floating if it all broke off which means that sea levels would rise (((if global warming was real))) by about a fucking millimeter

There is ZERO photographic evidence of sea level rise

>>131701161
Lmao (((its complex)))

Dude wheres my car?!?!

>>131701191
Not only that

but NASA admitted that the ice levels were increasing and had reached the levels in 1972 (thickest they had recorded)

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>>131700616
The trend still doesn't change whether you look at all stations or least biased ones.

>>131700571
If solar radiation is decreasing, then it must be measured in thermal units, per sq-units of space, per unit of time. Because you don't have this, there is no reason to believe your claims at all.

Your data is flawed. Your argument is flawed.

>>131701299
(((There is more snow because the ice is melting and and and and so the arctic icecap has not yet disappeared))))

>>131690621
wow omg what happens next? oh the iceberg just sits there for years till it melts? oh.
>iceberg
>berg
everytime

>>131690621
>hours
>days
>weeks

>Somewhere something might happen.

t. Science

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>>131701420

>>131701779
every single prediction made by east anglia (the church of climatology) has been wrong

and every time they are called out, they make up even more ridiculous shit

Politics and science don't mix

>>131690742
KEK

>>131701420
Yes, I can agree that long-term trends do show warming. There's enough data there to make a general statement.

I just hate the media's use of global mean like it's some real-time gauge, NOAA being a huge offender of this.
>Xth hottest month on record!!! oMG

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>>131700777
Again, he's a meteorologist.

>33,000
not this meme again. go on and post your source

>al gore
idgaf about al gore. I hate alarmism more than even you.

>The fucking earth is not getting warmer.

Just about every single aspect is getting warming. Land surface is getting warmer, atmosphere is getting warmer, oceans are getting warmer, sea levels are rising, etc.

>east anglia prediction
source?

Also the arctic ice isn't getting thicker. pic related.
The antarctic ice is expanding (very slighty), but overall the earth is losing ice.

>>131702165
Tens of thousands of climatologists (33,000) disagree with Gore. Let's start with climatologist John Coleman, the founder of the Weather Channel

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>>131699511
>water will flood agartha and the inner earth nazi empire with it dooming us all to a 1000 years of semitic darkness

>yfw this is simply like throwing an icecube into a kiddie pool

>>131694319
>seven hills

Peter the last pope?

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>>131690742

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>>131701172
Oh, I misunderstood. I thought the other figure already had that.

Here's a better one

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>>131690621
YELLOWSTONE ANTARTIC ICE DEMON PORTAL RACE WAR ECONOMIC COLLAPSE WW 3 STAR ALIGNMENT I DON'T CARE LET'S JUST GET THIS SHIT GOING ALREADY WHERE IS THE HAPPENING WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>131696484
Wait a minute here. I feel there is some Jewery afoot.
How many temperature measurement stations existed between 1900-1950? Did they project these results into the past?

>>131702610
Why don't you show a temperature graph that goes back more than a couple thousand years?

>>131702350
Your typical CNN viewer has no clue about math
>Delaware 2000 sqmi
>Antarctica 5.4mil
0.03%
Also that's just surface area. If you account for volume it's 0.0001%.

>>131690742
it took me way too long to see that

DOES IT MEAN COASTAL AREAS OF BRAZIL WILL BE FLOODED?
OH SHIT, BRB GOTTA MAKE POPCORN THIS IS THE BEST DAY EVER

>>131690621
Someone tell me what four-engine transport category aircraft is flying over Antarctica? Besides old DC3s that is

>>131696047
why is the observed at the bottom of all 138 separate predictions over the last 15 years?

>>131694044
Antarctica is technically a desert you idiot.

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>>131703048
Solid black lines are historical measurements, while the broken lines represent gaps in those measurements. Obviously the farther you go back, the more likely temps are biased one way or the other due to outdated techniques/equipment etc. but the trend is still there, especially when you combine both physical and biological proxies.

>>131703250
here
>>131696630
because it's likely the models underestimated global aerosol emissions. The earlier models are actually much more accurate.

This one's from ~2000.

>>131702610
Now do the math for the surface area of the earth exposed to said radiation per unit of time.

>>131690751

Then we'd have emu white walkers you fool!

>>131704732
No, I'm asking you for one that goes back farther than that. I don't want a graph framed to support your "muh carbon tax muh global cooperation" argument, I want the whole picture so your bullshit can be revealed. So go ahead, post one that isn't intentionally cut off to make your nonsense look legitimate.

>>131690744
WE ANTARCTICA NOW

>>131705001
???
The TSI has been decreasing since 1979. What are you even looking at?

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>>131702610
And try cropping your data less.

>>131701145
> North Atlantic current is much warmer than the circumpolar current.
Why would that be? Regular sun exposure heating bodies of water etc?

What do people actually think of the point: >>131698486 , does sun exposure not have an effect? I thought this is why the poles on many planets are the coldest areas.

>>131705542
If you put an object near a heat source, and let the temperature of the heat source vary, the first object will heat up regardless of the minor variations.

The TSI doesn't account for the fact that there is still a constant and intense heat source that the earth is always being exposed to. Eventually, its going to warm up, even with small variations.

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>>131705218
Oh fuck off, you won't accept it because it doesn't support your argument. How far do you have your head in the sand that you think it's coincidence that the level of warming experienced today is due to some natural phenomenon that didn't occur at any point in over 10,000 years?

Notice how the spike in CO2 ppm is also unprecedented, and how it correlates almost exactly with warming today.

>>131705542
TSI, is still only per sq-meter. Calculate for total surface area, per unit of time, and then try to make sense of why the earth wouldn't warm up eventually when near a constant heat source.

>>131690621
wtf is a jumbo jet doing in antarctica, science bases use prop planes or helicopters...

>>131690621
Happens all the time. Its called summer.

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>>131706154
>Correlation = causation
>I'm not going to show a proper graph because it would destroy my argument
>Y-Y-YOU'RE THE IGNORANT ONE
Welp I don't know what I expected from the dem flag unironically trying to defend anthropomorphic global warming on 4chan

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>>131690744
Heh nothing personal bro

>>131705989
>the first object will heat up regardless of the minor variations.
>Eventually, its going to warm up, even with small variations.

I don't disagree, but this effect is greatly amplified due to GHGs. The earth would be SIGNIFICANTLY cooler without them. Not sure what the disagreement is.

>>131706264
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiative_forcing

>and then try to make sense of why the earth wouldn't warm up eventually when near a constant heat source.

Because that's overly simplistic. You're not taking into account things like albedo or GHGs.

>>131706919
Explain why we're warming at the rate we are, and why it just happens to coincide with an atmosphere carrying the greatest amount of CO2 ppm in 250,000 years, which just happens to coincide with the industrial revolution.

Go ahead, I'll wait.

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>>131690742
>>131694840

>>131707616
Post a temperature graph that isn't framed and I think you'll be smart enough to see the answer yourself :^)

>>131707181
Radiation forcing proves my point that variations aren't an important factor, you moron: "Since the Earth's cross-sectional area exposed to the Sun (πr2) is equal to 1/4 of the surface area of the Earth (4πr2), the solar input per unit area is one quarter the change in solar intensity. "

"Thus, the solar forcing is the change in the solar intensity divided by 4 and multiplied by 0.7."

You also clearly do not understand how the math for accommodating GHGs works:

"where C is the CO2 concentration in parts per million by volume and C0 is the reference concentration.[6] The relationship between carbon dioxide and radiative forcing is logarithmic[7] and thus increased concentrations have a progressively smaller warming effect."

These quotes are from your own source and the prove you wrong.

>>131707903
Your argument is that "it's natural"

I'm asking you what's natural about it. What CAUSED the spike in the rate of warming? If it's not GHGs, then what is it? Is it the sun? Oceans? Orbit? What?

Seriously, tell me and I'll hop off the "anthropogenic" part of climate change.

>>131690621
If only we would of given money to Africa 2 months ago...

>>131708279
But variations ARE important. It's not enough to just look at the equation and then come to a conclusion. You can try doing the math yourself. Calculate the total radiative forcing from 1979 till 2005 and you'll see the decrease.

>where C is the CO2 concentration in parts per million by volume and C0 is the reference concentration.[6] The relationship between carbon dioxide and radiative forcing is logarithmic[7] and thus increased concentrations have a progressively smaller warming effect

This doesn't support your argument at all.

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>>131708333
I have no idea, I haven't really looked into alternatives that far. But the arguments in favor of it being anthropomohpic are way too tenuous to justify indoctrinating a bunch of pathologically altruistic mouth-breathers into supporting the reorientation of global society in such a way that it conveniently aligns with the globalist agenda of the capitalistic elite. I don't know what happens after we die, but that doesn't mean I'm going to jump on the nearest religious bandwagon for lack of a better alternative. Pic related, maybe pirates are causing global warming?

>>131709602
You're an idiot. If radiative forcing is positive then it the earth is receiving more energy than it is putting out. VARIATION (Not instance) in irradiance is reduced by a factor of 7/40 in the solar forcing equation. The variation is not large to begin with either.

Solar forcing with atmospheric gases is a logarithmic relationship, meaning you can't draw the conclusion that more GHG = more warming. It breaks your argument.

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>>131703477
This one is my favourite

>>131708333
>>131709602
you realize current climate models aren't even accurate enough to predict the movement of water vapor yet? Nor do they include methane, which is far more harmful than CO2. I'm not sayan anthropomorphogenic climate change doesn't exist, just that the data is too inaccurate to tell people to stop driving their car, for instance. If democrats understood incentive they could understand that.

>>131709945
> But the arguments in favor of it being anthropomohpic are way too tenuous

So if you don't know what natural warming or cooling looks like, or the variables that are involved there, then how can you know when it's unnatural?

>>131705744
The antarctic and arctic circle actually gets more daylight hours per year than the equator does.

It's the dramatic variation in seasons and the angle of the sun energy is what causes the cooling.

>>131705744
Also ocean currents have a bunch of shit influencing it. Coriolis effect, temperature differences, the moon etc. Antarctica has a clear path for a cold water current to circle it, while the Arctic circle gets fucked up by land masses and mixing currents.

shit be complex

>>131690621
Gronald Drumpf did this
All of you did this

>>131710710
I do know what natural warming looks like, I do not know the physical material factors that cause it. I'd assume it's due to a multitude of factors including volcanic activity and variations in sunlight. You don't have to know how a car works to know what kind of car it is.

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>>131710192
>If radiative forcing is positive then it the earth is receiving more energy than it is putting out.

What does this have to do with what I said? Just do the fucking math already.

>Solar forcing with atmospheric gases is a logarithmic relationship, meaning you can't draw the conclusion that more GHG = more warming. It breaks your argument.

Jesus christ.

>Solar forcing with atmospheric gases is a logarithmic relationship

This DOESN'T mean GHGs cause 0 warming. The more GHG = the more warming till a certain point. No one said that more GHG = warming for perpetuity.

>>131711738
It's pretty well agreed upon that the earth had at least 4000ppm of c02 in the past, ten times our current levels. These levels of carbon are the reason plant life could sustain massive creatures like dinosaurs.

Plants are essentially starving, or asphyxiating in modern C02 levels, greenhouses pump carbon inside to levels upwards of 1200ppm.

Based leaf scares away faggy OP, you're welcome.

>>131711685
But when factor by factor it's determined that either those things should a) be cooling the planet or b) are insignificant, and the two things that continues to pop up and change are GHGs and temperature, then you have to atleast suspect the GHGs. There's empirical evidence and plenty of experiments you can do at a college lab that demonstrate CO2's effects in absorbing and re-emitting radiation.

>>131712045
The sun was "cooler" back then.

>Plants are essentially starving, or asphyxiating in modern C02 levels
So what happens when one of these plants can process CO2 better than some of the other plants? The other plants are going to rapidly be outcompeted to extinction, which could lead to who know what.

Humanity's food supply chain is very sensitive to changes.

>>131713264
I guess it wasn't OP I'm a retard, just some random democrat fag.

>>131713367
And he's also back so I'm doubly retarded.

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>>131696484
Making forecasts on climate modals of planet using only the previous 100 years data is just bad science, so why don't we use ice core samples to use tens of thousands of years of data you might ask?
Yes, well you see if we did that we couldn't con retards as easily.

>>131690621
Fake picture. No one can fly over Antarctica.

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>>131693693

>temperature goes up first
>then CO2 goes up

When will climatefags figure this part out?

>>131693693
>what is ice age?

>>131690621
nice shit op, totally about politics