Debunking stuff

>>131676520
eldersof zion: it may be propagand but, as Ford said: it ""fits" with what's happening

>>131676520
The protocols is a great example. It doesn't matter exactly where they came from or what the intention is.

What matters is the ideas they convey. What Yuri talks about is bog standard psych warfare 101. Doesn't matter who he is or why he's saying it. It's still true.

>>131676520
Yuri describes himself as a disinformation agent so it's probably not a good idea to trust him

Obviously active measures exist but there is no proof that Marxist professors in American universities are due to Soviet active measures

Russian interference in the American election, however, was an active measure.

>>131676820
But seriously, we can't let Trump give Putin the nuclear codes.

>>131676654
>>131676787

But it does matter where the information comes from and how legit it is. otherwise you'll fail again and again on believin any data that fits your previous ideas

>>131677406
It's not like Yuri is the only person in the world who can tell you about how the game is played. If you don't like him, find somebody else. It just happens that he's good at explaining it.

If you're taking this from an intelligence perspective, you'd want to corroborate information from independent sources anyway, rather than trust any one source, especially one source that you think is questionable.

Listen to Yuri.
Apply Yuri's teachings.
Realize he is right.
Praise based soviet defector.

>>131677406
Who fact checks sources anyway? It doesn't matter who says what, you should always treat your facts and data with some amount of skepticism, form ideas informed by what you know and test those ideas until their don't work anymore, then find better ones.

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>>131676520
Well, we can at least say for sure that his predictions were accurate.

"Yuri"
Obvious ameirshart anticom propaganda ploy, people who can't see trough his fake Russian accent are brainlet
Many thing he says are Psyop 101 tip useful for stopping them
But nothing is limited to commies tough. Everything he said holds to an ever greater extent to JEWsa ((((democracy))))

>Protocols
True.
As 100% came true with horrific precision

>>131679828
I first watched these like 10 years ago when I was trying to figure out wtf was going on in the world, back when you could only find them in 10-minute segments no jewtube.

I rewatched the university lecture a few months back and was honestly startled at just how accurate it was. It's almost criminal that material such as this is not taught in schools, but I guess this is the Internet age, and the Internet is where people are going to go to find out about the things they're not supposed to know.

John Coleman also wrote some very good material about how the process is done. His book about the Tavistock Institute is very much worth reading.

>>131679828

this. the only test.

>>131676520
>the protocols of the elders of zion. legit? propaganda? fiction?
Irrelevant because it's so accurate but probably legit as the only grounds it was "discredited" on was a single paragraph in the entire document appearing to be plagiarized from another of the time with minor changes. The fact jews instantly labeled the document "antisemitism" tells me its probably legit.

>>131676520
He wasn't a KGB member, he worked for them.

>>131680378
The protocols were truth mixed with disinfo, it lures you in by giving the false sense that you have it all figured out, but things are quite a bit more complicated. Ford and Hitler were quite friendly with each other, but it was out of hate for the zionists whom the other globalists were competing with.

>>131680893
That's true of most anything, even if your source is not intentionally poisoning the well. The fact is nobody has it exactly correct anyway.

Once you go in to it under that assumption, disinfo becomes irrelevant.

>>131680893
>it lures you in by giving the false sense that you have it all figured out, but things are quite a bit more complicated.

Interested. please elaborate.

thank to the rest of posters, I was expecting some spain-bashing and siestameme replies. This is great.

>>131681224
Simple, it's not just the Jews who are globalists and controlling things. Yes, they are powerful in some areas, but not as much as they used to be.

You also have to understand that there really are white globalists who want to end white people. Jews are sometimes used by other globalists and even the zionists as well.

>>131681582
Book also doesn't go into many of the details about how social engineering is done either, there are more outlets than just the media for stuff like that.

>>131681582
>You also have to understand that there really are white globalists who want to end white people.

Why? I always think that the real enemy is the economic system. something like that?

>>131676820
>Predicts everything happening today to a Tee 30 years ago
>Disinformation

>>131681825
White people are harder to control, also our culture of individualism is detrimental to globalists, who much prefer populations with collectivism as their culture.

>>131681825
I found "Rules for Radicals" to be insightful in understanding the mindset. I was about halfway through when I started to ask myself what exactly was the point of all this.

Then I thought back to the dedication to Lucifer I noticed in the beginning. And then I went and reviewed the story of Lucifer -- something strangely absent from all those Sundays I spent at church. And then it kind of made sense what drives some people to just rebel and destroy for the sake of it.

Now the next step along the way is to look in to eugenics, the early form of transuhmanism. The "masters of the universe" as they used to call themselves are going for broke on their aims to literally become masters of the universe.

>>131682025
Economical elites (no matter jews, whites or whatever) push an antiwhite agenda so they can destroy millenial cultures and bring people to nations without personality, easy to tame, so they have a flock of brainles consumers.

something like this?

>>131676520
His defence of American democracy and liberalism seem quite dubious to me. As we all know, democracy is an illusory concept.

>>131682394
Very much so, you have people with no identity and culture on their own so you their only culture is what the social engineers create for them. Look at what happened to Brazil, that was all planned as a testing ground for this kind of stuff.

>>131676820
The fact the Boy who cried Wolf was a chronic liar doesn't change the fact that the Wolf was actually there that final time.

He hit the nail on the head with his claims decades before it came to fruition, the information is sound.

>>131676820
"active measures"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_measures

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>>131676820

8/8, had me there until the last line.

>>131676520
>How legit is this?

Very. You must be some commie vermin to not see the utter truth in it.

>>131677406
>some sources are inherently more reliable than others by some unknown metric and therefore I should listen to whatever fits my confirmation bias
Reddit-tier bullshit. You can't expect literally anything from everyone to be accurate, that's what burden of proof is for dummy.
http://www.criminal-law-lawyer-source.com/terms/burden-proof.html

>>131676520

> Open letter to all Whites and Gentiles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IjqlhYH8QY

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>>131676820
>no proof that Marxist professors in American universities are due to Soviet active measures

Bullshit. They focused on academia and subjects like sociology are basically Marxist vomit.

>>131682673
BUT
there's something I must be missing. I live in spain, this place is a shithole, you can't get a work and if you do, you earn shit.
how do they want a consumer mass at the same time they drain all the money from them?
Is this shithole a test-place? I would believe it. the spanish people are the best slaves I have seen.

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>>131682534
Not a argument, alot of concepts are illussions, i.e gender, or whatever you want to insert.
Democracy is a system for citizens of X nation to elect reprensatives. How these reprensatives work and act is another system, eg parliamentarism and so forth.

People have their own definition of democracy, but it just means what i explained, its a system, not a set of ideas

>>131683099
"Foundations: Their Power and Influence" by Rene Wormser documents this deftly. He was general council to a congressional investigation into the anti-American activities of the tax-free institutions commonly called the Reece Commission.

Any links to this yuri chap I am not familiar

>>131683447
Put Yuri Bezmenov on youtube

>>131683447
Younger, more raw Yuri interview with G. Edward Griffen, focuses more on his backstory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4

Older, more refined Yuri giving a lecture at a university laying things out in more sophisticated detail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZnkULuWFDg

>>131683113
That's why they push for socialism and universal income, everyone's a slave who has to work just to survive. The elites have systems set up so that they'll even be able to profit from everyone being poor. Think of a feudal order for instance.

Don't know all that much about Spain, but that kind of stuff is happening in all of Western Europe in general. Brazil and South Africa I know are testing grounds, so was communist Russia in fact.

holy newfags

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>>131683625
Ty

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>>131676520
>40 years ago escaped kgb agent describes contemporary leftist politics as marxist cancer created by the soviet union to destroy western society

lol must be a right wing conspiracy theory or something

>>131676820
The thing is, most American marxists don't know they are so.

Though worse still, these days, Americans are starting to be openly proud of it all of the sudden.

>>131683666
>this info
>these numbers

Holy shit anon, this stuff sounds coherent.I understand the universal income is a way to keep the money flowing but this also made me think about inmigration and so... this stuff has been going on for some decades, right?

>>131684023
did you even tried to understand my argument, achmed?

>>131684706
From what I've read, it's been going on for close up to 100 years now. These things just take time, but now we're getting closer to the end result you could say.

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>>131676820
Get the fuck out.

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>>131676520
He's on the level of Thomas Sowell.

>>131685394
I can see this in one important thing. people are afraid to talk. everyone has become some kind of police, like in 1984. you can't say anything bad about inmigrants, about moors, about gipsies. otherwise you'll be a racist, no court is needed, society will make a pariah out of you.
Don't say something about women or feminism, you'll be the closest to antichrist.
Sorry for my bad english, I hope I made my point clear.

>>131685394
I think it reaches back further. You can find some really interesting history of institutionalized brainwashing in, "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" by Charlotte Iserbyt. But for sure it really started to take off here about 100 years ago with SDS, the overthrow of our financial system for the third time in the form of the Federal Reserve Bank, and all the rest, roughly contemporaneous with things like the Kalergi Plan, Fabian Society, trying to figure out how to rework the British Empire into a global structure, etc.

>>131685946
Same as the Stasi system. Amazing to think literally a former Stasi operative, Angela Merkel, is currently at the center of the EU.

>>131676520
"Unplug their bananas" can't fake that.

>>131676820
>Muh russia
Nice try kiddo

>>131685946
You are quite right, that's the peer pressure and herd mentality part of social engineering that's required for these kinds of systems to be put in place.

>>131685946
they dont really care about racial, ethnic sexist conflicts, just keeps the proles fighting each other, but if you were to say something about the banks, or the zionist global agenda then it would be a different story ...

>>131676520
Some part of protocols is just copy paste from some book so i dont think protocols is legit

>>131686218

source that she's Stasi?

>>131686683
well, I also can tell you one thing. it's falling apart. some people like myself are quite burned out of the political correctness and other shit
want to call me a racist? a misoginist? well, fuck you, I don't give a shit.
On public people might agree, but you know, once you start talking with people separately...

>>131683113
they just want your country. they dont care about you. in the end they want you off their planet so that they can live forever in peace and harmony.

>>131686683
its surprisingly easy to brainwash people through mass manipulation. the modern idea is to rob you of your birthed natural identity so that they can provide you with a new one and mold you to whatever they want you to be

this is a great documentary that explains much of how they do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ3RzGoQC4s

>>131687101

So far it is rumored that her Stasi name was "Im Erika". (((google))) might be your friend this time.

>>131687546
using google instead of duckduckgo

gtfo you cryptojew

>>131687546
did you know that it is forbidden to publish the records of stasi operatives in sweden? they continue working for the globalists instead of the soviet union

>>131687654
>duckduckgo

Shilling against google and then shilling for the next subverted botnet. Newfag detected.

If you want to be safe, use searx.me or something, duckduckgo sold out some time ago.

>>131687654
>Implying duckduckgo is any better
>Implying you can dodge the internet surveillance

>>131687886
But duckduckgo did buy hilarious ads on 4chan back when, I forget, maybe the Snowden stuff came out. So they deserve honorable mention, just like j-list even though there's no more lifelike texture ;_;

>>131687944
You're still better off using almost anything other than google. They don't deserve to get all that data for free. It normally costs an arm and a leg to get data like that.

Capcha is even worse because of all the fucking retards who think they're doing some kind of good for the world by contributing free slave labor.

>>131687402
>its surprisingly easy to brainwash people through mass manipulation.
>this is a great documentary that explains much of how they do it.

If you are smart enough, watching tv ads it's enough to see the manipulation.

>>131688340
amazing how people doesn't get this shit.
>google announces some stuff about self-drived cars.
>suddenly all captchas are about "select all images with cars", "select all images with signals", "select all images with street names".

>>131688707
Uber deployed official Uber fleet vehicles in my town a while back. They have sensors all over them. They're still driven by humans, happy to make a few bucks.

Dumbasses. They're getting paid pennies to help Uber gather the data it needs to eliminate their jobs.

>>131676520
> Example, pic related. A guy supposedly former KGB member, bashing URSS, in cold war.
> Another example. the protocols of the elders of zion.
Why are you throwing these two together?

the "long march through the institutions" has been known for a long time, because it's proponents tell everyone. We have much greater ability now to get data on all of these things. What he is saying is correct. Just watch this lecture again and note down all of the subject matters. Do they hold true?
Forget him the person, what is he saying?
Does it seem true to you?

>>131676787
This here. The info is legit regardless. The protocols and yuri are both real though.

use the Cooper-Rockwell Test.
if the person making the statement or dropping the truth bombs is shot to death shortly afterwards probability of accuracy approaches 100% certainty.
if the person is left alone for years to continue beclowning themselves (cough cough Alex Jones cough) then probability of accuracy WITHOUT ACTIVE DECEPTION approaches 0% certainty.

tl;dr they kill the truthtellers and leave the gatekeepers and judas goats alive.

>>131689003
>Why are you throwing these two together?
As examples. not saying there's some connection among them.

>Forget him the person, what is he saying?
>Does it seem true to you?

irrelevant. I'm not the most objective person in the world. I can't take the things that "seem true to me" as a fact just because they do.

>>131676520
Yuri Bezmenov is legit.
Protocols of the Elders of Zion is legit.

Even if both were old school LARPs, fuck if they aren't proving prophetic.