>the sea level is rise-

Water levels have been dropping, I remember when I was a kid Lake Ontarios shore went a lot further in land than it does now

almost like water expands when its frozen so if its all melting it would have less volume. or maybe that's hate science.

the world is not a perfect sphere, it's lumpy because of magnets

the sea level is rising but that doesn't mean it's rising everywhere

>>131663229
Also increased heat would make more water evaporate and move.

>>131662527
You're retarded.

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>>131662527
>rise-

>>131663229
Sound logic but most of the arctic ice is on land not floating in the water

>>131663405
>its lumpy because of magnets
tell us more

>>131662527
Riseing? Words?

>>131663434
Where does the water evaporate to?

>>131663434
Cool I like global warming now because I like fucked up weather and fuck everyone that dies in a heatwave or hurricane. Like who actually cares

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>>131663722
magnets are stronger at certain parts of the world because of gravity which causes it to be uneven and lumpy

>>131663229
An iceberg is 87% below water.

Water gains about 8.4% density when going from 0 to 20 degrees.

That's still a net loss of volume of 5%

>>131663802
The atmosphere

>>131662527
Hol up

So u be telling me

That the ocean doesn't have currents and waves that move silt around that can produce sand bars? Shiieeeett

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>>131662527
Are you seriously retarded?

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>>131662527
well they are rising and not only will they continue to rise for probably hundreds of years (if not millennia), but the rate of increase will also increase with time as ice sheets continue to respond to the climate perturbation

>>131663405
How do magnets even work ?

>>131664236
it's not known, same as gravity

science is still in infancy

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>>131663405
>it's lumpy because of magnets
what

>>131663586
riseing

>>131663861
This is one of the most autistic pictures I've seen all day. congrats anon, you're retarded.

>>131663861

That is literally not the shape of Earth on the right you nigger. Not even on the left either. Do you know where you are? It's fucking flat. Round Earth theory Affirmers have been BTFO here for a while now. Lurk more.

>>131663229
That would be why the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets are the cause of sea level rise.

>>131662527
>one data point disproves a general trend

You might be right OP but what you posted proves nothing.

>>131664337
>not understanding lumpy magnets
nice try troll

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>>131663881

>>131664546
what? I must have missed the big BTFOing of that. Didn't know you had explanations of the Coriolis effect or seasons or time zones or why every other celestial body seems to be round, except for ours apparently

>>131662527

Sea levels have been rising and the climate warming for thousands of years dude.

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>>131664071
That graph is misleading for a few reasons. Firstly, it doesn't include a large enough timeframe to establish a proper baseline for sea level rise; sea levels have actually been rising at a fairly steady rate for the past several thousand years, but there's variation in the rate over several decades that your graph doesn't capture. Secondly, it concatenates two different measurement types, and """coincidentally""" there's an apparent change in the rate at the point of concatenation.

Pic related gives a much less misleading picture of sea level rise, and notice how there's absolutely no change in the rate even as humans began industrializing.

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>>131662527
I'm pretty sure that the cause of this island is down to longshore drift. Do you know what it is? It's definitely not rising sea levels though.

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>>131664655

>>131664071
dutch refugee crisis when?

are we allowed to take them in or is it forbidden because they are white christians?
maybe we will build ships for them so they can sail to Africa?

>>131662890
Fresh water basin originally fed by melting glaciers getting lower when there is no longer glaciers that can feed it? HOW SHOCKING!!
In other news the water leaving that basin is entering the oceans, hmmm, I wonder what that will do to water levels.

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>>131664856
We will survive.

We're actually quite good at holding back water.

>>131663229
You shouldn't have dropped out of high school retard. A volume of water freezing doesn't change the level of the water because ice floats on the exact point required to maintain it. This is because the forces of gravity and buoyancy remain constant and balance it. It's literally something that you can find in videos of science for children, dumbfuck.

>>131664695
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=density+of+water+at+0+degrees+celsius+%2F+density+of+water+at+20+degrees+celsius

Simple, really.

Density goes up, volume per mass goes down. Not sure who's the retard.

>>131662527
(((Global Warming)))

Youtube "melting ice doesnt make water level rise" (even when ice is initially above water level)

My cokehead cousin cant comprehend this

>>131663861
HAHAHAHAHAH THE NEW FLAT EARTH IS LUMPY EARTH FUCKING MEME IT WEWWWWW LAD
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>131665070
In white majority areas

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>>131662527
You're ready for the final redpill lad
humans are 70% water more humans means less water in the ocean. Humans are lowing the oceans with uncontrolled population growth. This is why China enacted the one child policy. The oceans would have dried up by now if the chinks had not stopped.

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>>131663861
here's a better pic with a magnetism scale

>>131664800
>sea levels have actually been rising at a fairly steady rate for the past several thousand years
your own graphic shows a remarkable stability of sea level for the entire Holocene. In fact, anthropologists say that this stability of sea level is a major reason why civilization developed in the first place.

>there's variation in the rate over several decades that your graph doesn't capture
and what variation would that be?

>"""coincidentally""" there's an apparent change in the rate at the point of concatenation
What are you implying here? Besides, that's not even true. There's already a doubling in the rate in the early 20th century when everything was measured with tide gauges.

>notice how there's absolutely no change in the rate even as humans began industrializing
Do you think that might be the case because total SLR so far is only a few centimeters, while this graph is scaled in meters?

I don't see how pointing out multi-meter sea level rise in the geologic past makes the phenomenon in the present or future any less of a problem.

>>131665173
You're (rightfully) being called a retard because you apparently don't grasp how displacement works.
Something every school kid outside the USA has learned.

>>131665173
I'm no scientist but isn't the entire engineering sciences of hydraulics based on liquids, especially water, not being able to be compressed to the point of negligible compression rates?

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>>131665566
That's a geoid, not a fucking waterless earth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoid

>>131664800
And your graph is not only misleading, but also completely irrelevant. Firstly, it is unclear which data points are measurements and which are reconstructions. Secondly, it contains values for 10 different locations. Thirdly, noone cares about sea levels 20,000 years ago. We live in the now, and we're certainly not coming back to sea levels of the Ice Age anytime within our lifetimes.

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>>131664751

>EU flag
Sorry schlomo, but you're not getting any of our (((Climate Change))) shekels because the Earth is flat and not affected by (((Greenberg))) house gasses.

>Missed the threads
Probably because you're new. Lurk more.

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>>131662527

Stop doing this, OP.

I live here. It's a fucking sandbar.

>>131662527
who owns the island?

>>131666609
China.

>>131663229
>>131663881
Here's an experiment you can do at home:
>Put a few ice cubes in a glass
>Fill the glass with water all the way to the top, so that the water is already bulging out
>Wait for the ice cubes to melt

>>131666290
>it is unclear which data points are measurements and which are reconstructions.

How many thousands of years do you think humans have been measuring and recording seal levels?

>>131662527
>huge island
>it's a fucking sandbar
please go drown yourself OP

>>131662527
global warming is fake

>>131662890
Not sure about lake Ontario but I go to lake Huron every summer, every year its been rising since as long as I remember.

>>131666847
OP didn't write the article.

>>131666387
Of course the flat earther is a burgerclap.

>>131662527

The only ice melt that will effect ocean levels is greenland and antarctica. Volume is volume, be it frozen and floating in water or melted. Only ice melting off land will raise sea levels. The arctic could completely melt and no rise in sea level.

>>131663861
Chrischan is that you

>>131667225
not really because Arctic sea ice extent has considerable effect on the temperature above the Greenland ice sheet and thus modulates sea level indirectly

>>131666712
Sea level measurements go back maybe 200 years; satellite-based mesurements have been going on for 50 years max

>>131664546
Can we please ban all these autists before they make /pol/ a fat joke?

>>131662527

So have we gone full circle back to global warming?

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>>131662527
>haha experts say the titanic is sinking but my side of the boat just lifted 60ft up in the air

>>131663802

space

>>131667134

At least you can see my flag, pussy.

>>131662527
>what is sand movement
>what is erosion

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>>131664800
I would also add that most of our knowledge about the sensitivity of ice sheets towards temperature changes comes from the paleoclimate record. One of the most important discoveries of the last decade was the discovery that sea level during the Eemian (at which temperature was just a few tenths of a degree warmer than today) was 6 to 9 meters higher - Scandinavia was an island at that time.

So I always get a bit angry when people use paleoclimate to try to dismiss climate change in the present.

>>131662527

Notice how the Mutti posters are always the most fervent defenders of multiculturalism, global warming, and the EU and their sense of humour is akin to the typical smug liberal teacher's pet.

>>131662527
>it shore is beautiful
>it
Not
>its

>>131665123
It must hurt being as fucking retarded as you are...

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>>131666387
>the Earth is flat

>>131667545
>before they make /pol/ a fat joke?
>before

>>131664236
Miracles

>>131662890
you are a fucking retard m8, just like all of those people that talk about the flooding toronto islands

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>>131664856
>dutch refugee crisis when?
Unlikely. We're already a few meters below sealevel in the west.. I doubt a few meters more would matter much.
>>131665375
>In white majority areas

Everywhere..

>>131663640
Also the ice in water is floating leavin about 10% above the surface

>>131663881
and which iceberg is this?

do you realize there are more than one icebergs?

do you realize there are ice shelves and glaciers which are entire above water?

>>131667441
OK, mr Holmes.

So what do you deduct was that graph spanning thousands of years based on: measurements or reconstructions?

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>>131664800
>accurate science that captures the larger picture and depicts data from time scales farther back than just 100 years

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>131664970
>Fresh water basin originally fed by melting glaciers getting lower when there is no longer glaciers
You realize glaciers take thousands of years to melt right. You realize there is a 0% chance he would witness the complete melting of glacier In his lifetime, enough to see the water levels of the lake rise and fall, right.

>>131663640
>most of the arctic ice is on land

Yes, on the great continent of Actica....

all I know is it was cold as shit the last two days here in california and I had to eject my last 4 bottles of r12 freon into the atmosphere just to get it to start feeling warm again

>>131668140
>Scandinavia was an island at that time.
>tfw Thule was actually an island all along

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>>131663861
Most autistic post I've seen on /pol/ thank you

>>131663229
As ice melts its volume decreases to the volume of water it displaces while floating. Therefore when an ice cube melts in a glass of water filled to the brim, the water level remains constant.

Floating ice has the same effect on sea level whether it is frozen or liquid. Only Ice melting on land ( Greenland/Antarctica ) could effect sea level.

Ya mooks.

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>>131663861
this is verified science.

>>131668643
nigga do you even Archimedes.

>>131667887

Not necessarily a stupid idea. If rising tempretures are evaporating more water
from the ocean into the atmosphere, it could be expanding, like heating a balloon. But how could we measure that?

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>>131665173
I AM THE RETARD

>>131669877
Reminder that the people you argue with are the same people who deny climate change because they think their scientific knowledge is way better than that of actual scientists.

This is why I have given up on debating with Americans.

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>>131663405
fluid dynamics are a lie goy, don't believe your lying eyes

>>131670236
Well I don't believe there is proof CO2 causes climate change.

>>131669772
>>131663861
>because of magnets
Fuck Iam laughing so hard right now.

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>>131668643
>>131663229
>>131663881
idiots.

ice will displace a mass of water proportional to its own mass.

ice is roughly 8% less dense than water

when you see the top portion of an ice cube/ice berg/ ice anything floating above the waterline you are directly observing this 8% discrepancy.

when the ice melts the net gain to volume is exactly 0 because the 8% loss in volume for the underwater portion is exactly canceled out by the 8% which is above water

total volume net gain of floating ice when it melts in water is 0.

if the ice has trapped air or bubbles in it, then the water line will recede when the ice cube/berg melts.

>>131669877
for water to be lost to space it would have to reach the upper atmosphere. There, the molecules would be broken up by photodissociation and then carried away by solar winds. In fact that's what happened on Venus: solar irradiance evaporated the oceans and baked CO2 out of the crust, leading to a runaway greenhouse effect. The effects of this are still observed in the Venutian atmosphere in the form of a deuterium anomaly (because the lighter Protium is preferrentially removed by solar winds compared to the higher deuterium isotope)

>>131670343
Like I said: American education, too retarded to even argue with.

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>>131665173
DISPLACEMENT
see: >>131670530
here is a video for the mentally handicapped who visit 4chins who dont understand this
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOCqHRpQh88

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>>131663861
You can't be serious

>>131663640
>american education

>>131663861
>>131663861
But how do they work anon?
How
Do
They
Work
?

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>>131663861
>>131664541 >>131664546 >>131665352 >>131665566 >>131667400 >>131669772 >>131669878 >>131670366 >>131671290 >>131671534
actually, somewhat accurate except for the retarded picture. the

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>>131670343
I will never get tired of pointing this out:

Controlled experiments normally don't exist in nature but here history was kind enough to set one up for us.

55 million years ago, an amount of carbon roughly equivalent to all the oil reserves in the world gets injected into the atmosphere in a few millennia.

As a result, the planet warmed by 5°C or more, precipitation massively increased, ocean sediments suddenly turn dark/red because of ocean acidification, insect herbivory sharply increases, local anoxia, transient dwarfism of homeothermic animals and terrestrial ecosystems in general getting kicked around with genera turnover, local exstirpation of plant orders and massive migration of mammals

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Explain this global warming fags

>>131663405
>sea level is rising when its not

>>131670748
Venus != Earth.

Baking CO2 out of crust happens at very high temps. If this were to happen on Earth, we'd be dead already.

Human eating poison ivy = sick/dead human.
Goat eating poison ivy = no harm to the goat.

>>131662527
climate change is a chinese hoax. Trump said it himself.

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>>131663861
That's some top notch retardation right there

>>131669877
Also, don't take it from me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKiq5EwkzDg

>>131662890
>go there in the night
>go back in the morning a year later
The sea level is falling

>>131668267
Nice argument fag. Stay butthurt.

>>131663861
Lumpy earth. Great. Start your memengines.

>>131665566
Why does the earth have down's syndrome?

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>>131663861
POTATO EARTH

>>131663861
I'm saving this image

>>131663229
>>131663434

Except all the science cucks have been saying "x is going to be under water because of global warming" for the past 20 years

>>131672663
if that poison ivy example is supposed to be an analogy about the effect of CO2 on temperature, then you're wrong. The physics on Venus is the same physics operating on Earth

>>131664695
Saving that one for later ty

>>131664856
>maybe we will build ships for them so they can sail to Africa?

South-Africa?

>>131662527
Do we live in a simulation or some shit

>>131670236
don't be so full of yourself and take headlines for granted