Ok /pol/, Tell me what's going on in Venezuela.

>>131660775
We are entering the "whatcha doin', Maduro? Comminism" phase.

>>131661060
This, and people are now fighting back.

For example, lobbing grenades from a helicopter.

A man with a helicopter is preparing to become Pinochet 2.0.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/06/27/venezuela-police-helicopter-attacks-supreme-court-as-maduro-vows-to-go-to-combat/

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>>131661359
nice

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>>131661253
/ourguy/

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>>131660775

The socialists finally ran out of other people's money.

>>131660775
University students, entrepreneurs, young professionals against armed lumpen gangs. It saddens me every time that the very best of a nation have to die in a war against human garbage to free their people.

>>131661359
fake... the guy who was in the chopper was an actor working 4 the c.i.c.p.c (the communist c.i.a

>>131663303
So like the Turkish "coup"? Just an excuse to crack down even more.

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>>131661248
This. All my anti-commie pics need an update.

>>131664626
its mainly because the government is making fun of us...they like to give us hope and then they proceed to destroy it

>>131663303
>
where are you getting this info from

>>131663303
>
where are you getting this info from?

>>131665301
http://noticiaaldia.com/2017/06/oscar-perez-protagonizo-muerte-supendida-pelicula-venezolana-estrenada-en-2015-trailer/

proof he is an actor

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Nothing, we are just getting ready to ship some helicopters over.

>>131665301
besides though they didn't even catch him so this leads me to the theory that
1) he is faster than sanic
2) the military knew this was him and they let him go

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>>131660775

Part of a bigger Destabilization project.

They want to create a NAU(North American Union) & SAU(South American Union) & eventually a AU(American Union).

Inorder to do it, they need to Implode North America, by flooding it with South America.

Archives: http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/

>>131663303
Do you think that army would eventually start coup against Maduro?

In most of communist countries this happend.

>>131666454
>>131665981
holy sheet, I'm sorry for you brother, it looks like you're even more fucked than us, maybe when we get our new Gripen NG's we can invade Venezuela and free you from socialism

The president is retarded

>>131666472
off yourself tripfag

>>131660775
Some actor was larping about taking down the government. The situation is shitty there, but a lot of people still support the government so no coup in the near future.

>>131667069
Lol cant comprehend the truth

>>131666849
i highly doubt it my serbian friend since the army and every police unit is deeply brainwashed... they are so brainwashed that they automatically blame the americans for everything

example
*ice cream falls to the ground*
army man from venezuela: fuken americunts

>>131666893
i will have to admit that the army is pretty poor and retarded but you are going to need more than a jet to take down this corrupt goverment

>>131667322
well actually there is more people who are against the government

since the only ones who are supporting them are generally poor brainwashed people or rich socialist cunts who live outside venezuela and of course the small minority of communist who are still in charge and in the country

but you are right about the no coup theme

>>131667713
Brazil has the biggest army in Latin America, there are only two things missing, money to pay the soldiers (could be easly solved with your oil money after invasion) and air superiotiy over your Sukhoi Su-30's.

>>131660775
USA screwing over just like they did with us

>>131668431
yeah but call me crazy but i think i remeber an brazilian anon from another thread that said that brazil doesn't have enough bullets to go around killing commies and shit

besides though i think i prefer to leave this task to the U.S.A

>>131669000
nice trips, the bullets thing is just a hoax, some top guy from the military spread this rumor trynna get some more funding. About the US... last time they helped brazil with a cue they left us with 21 years of a military dictatorship, so... not nice

>>131661359
>Kikebart
>(((Pinochet)))

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0798/pinochet1.asp

>>131669767
fine but if you want to invade us take our oil plz but don't take our lands and make us speak portuguese

>>131668532
>socialist anti-US government fucks up
>HAHAHA US TO BLAME!
Goddamn commie shits, I thought you all got the chopper rides.

>>131668532
looks like pinochet forgot somebody

Food machine broke

>>131670993
>Socialist anti-US gov
>believing US will not do anything about it

It is known what they did here in Chile, how they manipulated the economy to make socialism fail, CIA literally unclassified those documents and its public knowledge. North Korea is still alive, only because they dont have USA near to fuck up they goverment.

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>>131660775
Socialism is failing AGAIN

>>131670382
brazil isn't into taking land, we create other nations, ask uruguay, we literally pooped them

>>131668532

>USA screwing over just like they did with us

F R E E
H E L I C O P T E R
R I D E

>>131670382

How about we invade you, senpai? I mean, you guys are already coming here, we might as well

>>131672253
so you are openly saying that communism is good?

>>131672678
Im saying it can survive. Whats happening on Venezuela its caused by manipulation of ((those)) who dont want to see socialists countries raise.

>>131660775

>Tell me what's going on in Venezuela

Yesterday some actor tried to drop some grenades over the Supreme Court, but in the end it was all staged.

>>131672678

He likes Cuba, let the dreamer dream, when he realizes that communism sucks he'll come around.

>>131672636
i dont think that you have enough military power like brazil,the U.S.A or chile m8

srry

>>131672939
Allende did nothing wrong.

>>131673134
he did something wrong
he was a communist

>>131673219
>every socialist regime fails near USA
mmmmmm I wonder who is behind this

>Allende
People voted him democratically.

>>131672871
>blaming (((((((((those))))))))
even though if you were right
communism cannot survive even though (((((((((((((those)))))))))))))) don't intervene

>>131664882
I thought they were hardcore commies, should they not at least pretend to give a shit about the population they serve?

>>131673471
Explain North Korea then, its pretty alive since decades and will keep being alive

>>131673468
Because you had a retarded system that allowed a guy with 30% of the popular votes to be ellected

>>131673706
because their economy is completely dependant of china and who is saying that north koreans live happily over there

>>131673028

We do, believe me.
Just not invade Argentina, or Mexico, Haiti and you are a-ok

>>131673706
do you want your country to be north korea or something

>>131673963
Yes thats the point, if they had USA instead of China, NK would fail in a day. Cuba is well alive too even after all they had to endure against burgers.

>>131673807
>my monkey military dictatorships of that time were better

k

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>>131660775

Leave Venezuela to me

>>131674248

Cuba hasn't collapsed yet because this fucking socialist government is giving them all the resources they need to maintain their fucking communist dictatorship.

>>131673706
>Using NK as an example of a successful communist nation
Just think for a second about what your are saying, would you consider the standards of NK as good?
Yes its survive and probably live for a long time, just like a severed dog head connected to a bunch of machines can still show signs of life for days if kept that way.

CIA funded destabilization leading up to yet another coup attempt, which will fail because the defiant spirit of Castro and Chavez live on in the hearts of the people

if you see a CIA nigger run him over, they glow in the dark

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>>131660775

They have to chose between totalitarian socialist government ruling over the large oil reserves or the large oil corporations ruling over the government.

>>131673219
you did something wrong
you were born with fetal alcohol syndrome

RIP to Allende and all other victims of American imperialist violence

May Kissinger rot in hell

>>131674248
because the U.S doesn't like that
1)censorship
2)people getting decapitated just because you didn't cry enough 4 the death of the leader
3) people getting executed because of different ideals
and a lot more of examples of there

>>131674755
show your flag i dare you

>>131674471
Cuba worked too before having relations with Vnzla, even if it were like that, its just 2 socialist countries cooperating.

>>131674488
>believing ((their)) progpaganda
>evaluating NK with western morality

My point is that them myth of "without "free" markets you die goy!" is false, a socialist economy without market can survive in the long term and we have examples of this happening.

Here in the west is not that different in the real sense, we just have freedom about irrelevant choices, thanks USA to give me the freedom of being a non-binary wolfkin.

>>131660775
The.keys or power are moving.to some new guy who will do the same shit.

>>131674755

Oh God!, You know nothing....
Jesus H Christ....

>>131675082
cuba was going to fall without the help of venezuela the ussr and china

>>131672636
>>131674031
All you need for invade Venezuela are US and AU-approval to intervene Venezuela, ship ton of food, oil, military supplies, and volunteers to your country. The only two things you need to do are rations on everything (basic things, gas, toilet papers, electric, clothes and shoes) and factories to build tanks, guns, planes, and bullets.

Anyway, enjoy with Venezuela.

>>131675442
Yeah but thats like the state of all latinamerican countries, as we dont have any industrial power, Chile would die without trading with USA and China too.

>>131675082
commie scum, your fucking country works because of capitalism eployed by pinochet

NK is a good example of a communist country? hahaha thats the most retarded thing i ever read on /pol/ so far

Cuba was on the verge of colapse in the late 90s if it wasnt for chavez (fidels bitch) the whole of cuba would have straved to death

Brown people voted for free shit lmao and when they got it the money ran out

This is obviously the fault of the United States conspiring against them

>>131660775
CIA is trying to stage another coup or civil war.
South American version of ISIS at our southern borders sure is going to be very fun.

>>131676439
>t.capitalism boot licker
>commie scum, your fucking country works because of capitalism eployed by pinochet

Nah it was already working before

>the whole of cuba would have straved to death

No one belives your fear mongering, Cuba were being invaded by US and they rightfully took their land back.

>>131676621
so the CIA is responsable for the people of venezuela starvng to death? nothing to do with socialism or corruption? sure...

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Why the fuck do people still support socialism are they fucking blind or what, for fuck sake.

Someone explain that to me why the fuck don't they come here and see how we live here.

>>131676695
pick a history book, comtard, every latin american nation that embraces socialists policies has failed

>Argentina failed, Kicner was removed
>Paraguay failed and their president got impeached
>Brazil failed and Rooseft is now on trial for corruption
>Nicaragua failed and now is a giant shithole in central america
>Cuba failed and now most cubans who dont like communism risk their lives swiming to the US

GOD IS WITH OSCAR

>>131677334
because they are retards that dont know what they are doing

>>131677334
>>131677729

Hey guys, how's socialism treating y'all? I've been doing pretty shitty to be honest.

>>131676856
Yes it is, even CIA admits it.

>>131677345
>Socialism fails in Latin America
I wonder why they all fail here! You're a retard if you dont see it.

>>131678194
i live like the poo's (ppl from india)...
a lot of people in one house gathering as much as we can to survive

>>131678194
I dont suffer to much because my uncle in USA send my family food and all that type of things but still we're in serious shit.

>>131678456
do you seriosly think the CIA has that much power? do you seriously think they have godlike powers to destroy nations? when in fact the CIA could not prevent JFK from been assasinated, 9/11 from even happening or taking 10 years to find osama bin laden

are you seriously that retarded? the CIA is a joke to other inteligence agencies in the world

>>131678914
I aprecciate your subtle irony

>>131678456
>yes it is, even CIA admits it.

i want the saucy sauce (proof)

>>131678885
do you own guns homie?

>>131678914
>are you seriously that retarded? the CIA is a joke to other inteligence agencie
>being this naive
It was cold war for a reason, there is no innocent in this history, americans did all they could to stop socialism in here, not because they liked us, subhumans, but because they hated URSS
Just part of our own great game, like russia and UK in asia

>>131675609
>ship oil to an oil producing country

>>131678789

Fuck, man. Do you live in a slum? I'm running out of money pretty soon and I don't know what to do.

>>131678885

At least you have someone who can help you from outside of the country. I'd say $50 a month should be enough to live relatively 'normal'.

>>131678914
CIA power is enough to manipulate these meme countries, it doesnt take that much, buy the elite promising you will giveaway the goverment companies to them (Chile had hundreds of state-owned companies, guess ((who)) owns them now), then start hoarding food and general goods to make the economy fail purposely, it is known than this happened, food magically started appearing inmediatelly after Pinochet took power. USA had all the incentive to make it happen

>>131679264
Yea a shootgun and a pistol

>>131679375
It still affects my family dude he doesn't send sometimes, He has a family there to maintain too.

>>131679099
The documents were officialy declassified by the CIA

"In the 1960s and the early 1970s, as part of the US Government policy to try to influence events in Chile, the CIA undertook specific covert action projects in Chile. Those hereby acknowledged are described below. The overwhelming objective—firmly rooted in the policy of the period—was to discredit Marxist-leaning political leaders, especially Dr. Salvador Allende, and to strengthen and encourage their civilian and military opponents to prevent them from assuming power."

https://www.cia.gov/library/reports/general-reports-1/chile/

http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB8/nsaebb8i.htm

>>131678914
memes calling memes memes

>>131679589
VE POR ELLOS OSCAR

>>131674031
No you don't Santiago

>>131679375
nope i live in a apartment

>>131679365
>DR
>oil-producing

They are dependent on oil. Maduro will start an embargo against the Dominicans, that can destroy the economy.

>>131674471
Cuba has one of the biggest spy organizations on Earth. They actually make a shit ton of their nations wealth through stealing/selling of state secrets and illegal contraband.

>>131678885
>Thank you Uncle Sam

>>131679697
nice it's good to know you atleast have something to defend yourself... my family doesn´t tolerate guns so i dont have one

>>131680171
Well that's fucking retarded desu, You should at least have a crappy revolver or a shootgun to defend yourself.

>>131678456
>CIA
>Overthrowing nations

The CIA puts together small bands of idiots and supplies them. That's about it. IF those said idiots manage to pull of a fucking hail Mary then the CIA gets what they want and America is able to more easily establish ties with the idiots who overthrew the government.

The CIA makes small moves and hopes for the best.

>>131679697

Fucking hell, man. Use those weapons to protect your family, don't ever let anyone hurt them. I wish I had a gun, but I can't afford any of that stuff.

>>131679938

That's great, I thought you didn't have a bathroom or something similar.

>>131680514
i even tried to make my own gun most likely a shooting pen but they don't even let me buy the materials to do it

>>131680649
btw in which states do you 2 live in

>>131660775
Whatever it is, you can be assured that it is not Communism™

>>131679434
yeah private individuals own them now, and i dont see massive starvation in chile, mmm wonder why

in fact many venezuelans have fled to chile, not only that but chile is the most stable economy in LatAmerica, and pinochet is no longer dictator there

>did the CIA helped piochet seize power? yes
>was it bad? for the mayority of chileans NO
only the commie scumbags got free helicopter rides

>>131666849
Commie regimes almost always have loyal armies and police forces. The system is bad, but it's very good at maintaining it's existence.

Venezuela ain't some arab country where different tribes are trying to genocide each other

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>>131680846
Aragua the cradle of socialism.

>>131681208
Can you lads post here? How bad is the crack down on free speech?

Hope you're holding out as best as you can.

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>>131672457
thank u m8

>>131680846

I'm currently living in Caracas.

>>131680649
kinda poitless to have a gun down there, ammo is scarce and extremely expansive..if you find it!

>>131681208
im in D.F vatos

>>131681183
Don't be too confident.
Money change everything and CIA/Uncle Sam have lots of dollars for destroying countries apart from within when it helps keep their large scale weapon industry going.

>>131681294
is pretty bad in general but atleast we can post on 4chan safely and talk how bad communism is around these types of websites

>>131681294
The local news here are literally muted, They can't say anything about protests or related to that because they get hunted.

Everything is fine on the news.

>>131681425

Well, if someone tries to break into your house, at least you'd be able to react properly according to the situation.

>>131681626
Communism is bad no argument but you should try to set up more local industry to aid with your country lack of local produce and goods instead of depending on imports like drug addicts.
Last I heard Maduro government is more than willing to help with that but people who are willing to risk their finance and career to help their society out are very few.

>>131681497
That's my point too. We probably shouldn't expect a revolution from inside. It will only change when uncle sam intervenes

>>131678789
>>131678194
>>131677334

That's not socialism, that is authoritarian communism (elite dictatorship far from real communism) that is just into capitalism. A beneficio de los que están arriba, claro.

Por qué no matáis ya a cada perro que intente engañar a sus hermanos y empezáis a organizaros como la nación que sois?
Yo en vuestra situación no aguantaría ni un segundo más de régimen, además que las fuerzas militares tampoco parecen mucha cosa.
Ellos son unos miles armados, vosotros sois millones con manos que pueden blandir palos con clavos. Luchad por vuestra libertad cojones.

reminder that the average venzuelan man is a 5'6" manlet

>>131681776
sure that is reasonable, but if you shoot/kill an intruder in your house, you are going to jail most likely, retarded communists laws
i have heard stories of that happening all over the country, self defense with guns is borderline illegal

i say make a spear and stab them in the eyes

Why are the army still defending the government?

>>131682012
Ain't that easy, We're not that brave like the ukranians for example.

>>131682012
el tema es este
1) hay mucha gente que todavía cree que utilizando la democracia se puede destituir a un gobierno autoritario
2)no tenemos armamento como los americanos para iniciar una revolución contra el gobierno de maduro
3)necesitaríamos cosas como tanques helicópteros y gente dispuesta a morir y no tenemos mucho de eso

>>131682012
when you are starving, disarmed, no vehicle support, weak leadership and low IQ
and your opponent has loyal soldiers, assault rifles, tanks and planes
is like ants trying to kill an elphant

>>131682653
They get bribed with Apartments, cars, medicines and all that type of stuff.

>>131682886
And they don't have families suffering too?

None of them are patriots rather than greedy fucks?

>>131681934
1) we can't produce shit because we don't have shit to produce shit and we dont have shit money to help us find or produce more shit

btw who told you maduro was helping people

>>131682012

The government has the whole army's support, it's not fucking easy to pull off something like that, you know?

>>131682255

Yes. That's why we must ban socialism/marxism/leftism at any cost.

>>131668532
100% justified if you ask me

>>131681934
>local industry
>in communism
Dude, do you even know what communism is?

>>131682952
Of course they have, but they preffer being loyal to get all that free and easy stuff.

Also most of them are brainwashed to make them think the goverment is being attacked by USA.

>>131682952
most common soldiers have been brainwashed by communist propaganda, the high command of the armed forces (generals, admirals) have been bribed and some of them are active drug lords, the families of the soldiers either have everything they need or they are blind supporters of the regime, even when starving

These people see chavez as a god, kinda like north koreans see kim jong ill

>>131683074
Agricultural, anon.
As long you have land, you can produce a lot of things with hardwork.
Especially when most of your food produce are imported.

Maduro is trying to force unemployed people to work in agricultural farms just like how South Koreans did when their tech sector tanks in 1998. Too bad, Venezuelans are far lazier than Koreans.

>>131681998
Why wait for a revolution when the country itself is democratic?
Besides, election is about to come anyway so all this civil unrest is a waste of time after the initial few to prove public displeasure over the economic handling of the country.

If you don't want Maduro, vote him out soon and campaign socially so others will vote him out too.
There isn't any need to murder your own countrymen for the amusement of Americans.
Too bad the opposition is more socialist than Maduro own party. though
If you dislike that, make your own party and explain how Venezuela can get out of the economic crisis caused by low oil prices and large debts.

>>131683336
how likely is a revolution?

>>131683241
Could you explain why please?

>>131683577
this is not a democracy m8 besides didn't you heard about the constituyente of maduro is going to turn this country to a distopya like cuba or north korea

>>131683577

>If you dislike that, make your own party and explain how Venezuela can get out of the economic crisis caused by low oil prices and large debts

That's probably why this country is never going to be what it used to many years ago. The people are so fucking brainwashed that even those who don't support the government think that there should be even more control, more regulations, and more state involvement.

>>131683605
unlikely without the help of uncle sam

>>131683609
Don't get me wrong, USA since Wilson until Trump was pure crap, but Allende was a literal communist, could have been a disaster for the region. Not that his coup came without some costs, the recent socialism wave of SA can be seen as a revenge of what America did to Allende. But the coup itself prevented a civil war.

There should be a rifle pointing out of every door, every window, behind every blade of grass. How did you allow yourselves to be so cucked?

>>131684037
The presidency still require election, anon.
Gerrymandering is a thing that happens everywhere, both in America and here in Europe.

>>131684366
everything started when we didn't have a second amendment

>>131675442
And the Soviet Union sent the first man into space.

How do you explain the Soviet Union surviving? What about all those African free market ancap paradise shittholes that need the US to survive?

I'm not defending communism, and by all means I think Maduro is a fucking retard, but you have to be a blind idiot not to notice the manipulation going on behind the scenes by ((them)).

>>131683605
It's possible but the thing is that our opposition leaders are fucking dumb and they don't make good choices.

>>131684366
the promise of free shit, combined with the natural tendency for lazyness, allowed the communist propaganda to be very effective

>>131684249
Trump God emporerking purest patron saint bless his soul

>>131674597
Fuck you trolls and show us our flag.

Now CIA niggers control oil productions in the entire world, OPEC, US shale oil drillers, Russia, etc.

Somehow all the other countries of OPEC are surviving with the downfall of oil prices and Venezuela ain't. Fuck you, Already explained this a million times.

Even Angolan Africans run up the country than South American mestizos and whites. A Dutch disease ridden economy and government.

>Venezuelan oil during the 2000s. Using the official exchange rate, Caracas is the most expensive city in the world, though the black market exchange rate is said to be as much as a hundred times as many bolivares to the dollar as the official one. Being a large exporter of oil revenues also keeps the currency's value above what it would otherwise be.

>by 2012, of every 100 dollars, more than 90 came from oil and its derivatives. With the fall in oil prices in early 2015 the country faces a drastic fall in revenues of the US currency along with commodities.

>>131684467
vast majority of people in venezuela: let's vote to kick out maduro from the presidency!

maduro:*hijacks the election like chavez*

(you): if you don't like the presidency then just e against it

>>131684832
>Even Angolan Africans run up better thir country than South American mestizos and whites in Venezuela. A majority Dutch disease ridden economy and government.

>>131684942
*vote*

>>131684249
Thanks for your answer my friend, I just wanted to know your point of view.
>hecharon a picketeros en la ciudad de buenos aires, mas noticias a las 20

>>131684583
the ussr died like a fuck ton of years ago m8

>>131684942
So you are going to ignore an democratic constitution and simply plan to murder everyone you don't like?
If he hijacks it despite massive public voting him out, then the onus would be on him, not you.
But if you planned to murder and riot through your own country because you are pissed that you aren't getting your gibs and too lazy and cowardly to risk your life to create produce for export or local consumption, the onus would be on you, not him.

>>131684583
as for the USSR, their decline was slower thatn other nations due to the fact that the soviet union was massive and had plenty of resources, they managed to put a man into space, yet most of the country side had dirt roads, you had to wait 10 years to buy a car, and a large portion of the population was in perpetual starvation.
and it did fall HARD.

the african problem is because niggers. period.

>>131683609
>>131684249
Just to expand a bit, during the cold war the left guerrillas from Argentina, Peru, Bolivia and the rest of the SA countries had to rely on Cuba for training and soviet funding. With a communist Chile all they had to do is cross the border, and you realize it's a pretty big border.
Imagine a Colombian FARC-Venezuela scenario but worse.

>>131684092

fight or flee bro. don't just sit and take it.

>>131685310
because his """""""""democratic"""""""" new constitution prohibits things like free speech protesting and everything that human people stand for

>''what's happening in Venezuela?''
shit, shit is happening

>>131685707
and besides i didn't said anything about murdering somebody

>>131685570

I can't do shit and I can't leave either. I guess this is it.

>>131685310
>So you are going to ignore an democratic constitution and simply plan to murder everyone you don't like?

Dind't you heard what what the president said on TV?

>" we would never surrender, and what we could not with the votes, we would do with the arms, we would liberate our country with the arms".


http://www.unotv.com/noticias/portal/internacional/detalle/aqui-la-confesion-de-maduro-que-confirma-es-dictador-994209/

>>131685425
Oh now I understand you better

>>131685851
*ear rape mgs v song*

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>>131660775
Literal Crusaders are fighting against Unreal Socialism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3zNQFQF_ZI (Subtitles)

>>131685851
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tETHgqfw2c

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>>131683577

>https://www.ft.com/content/ad0aa432-1569-11e7-80f4-13e067d5072c?mhq5j=e3

> voting in Venezuela
> not knowing that Maduro faces no limits, like Putin
> not understanding that there will never be free or fair elections with the police arresting opposition leaders

Mate, you can't possibly be this stupid or uninformed, so I assume you're into socialism. Wait... that's the same thing....

>>131686223
>>131686558


Kek.

>>131686089
if you search wikipedia for communists guerrillas in SA you will find that almost every SA nation had one trying to bring down the goverment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_guerrilla_movements

gladly, most of them were defeated

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>>131686252
Commies Remover

>>131686761
It goes back a lot further, as a matter of fact Mapuches invented guerrilla warfare.

>>131677334
can you explain how venezuela is socialist?

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>>131686978
nice!

>>131672253
Soneone throw this guy from a choppet

>>131672871
Yeah vuz kikes arent the most commie/socialist group of ppl every

>>131687113
Well, after I saw the spaniard opinion is actually authoritarian communism.

Well there's no private industries anymore because they got expropriated and all of them are not working.

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What torture methods will be used on this handsome motherfucker when he is inevitably captured?

Will he squeal?

>>131664626
>>131664626
>>131667322
>>131674597
>>131676621
No, there wasn't a coup, just a non fatal terrorist attack. This was used to distract the country from what was happening in the parliament which was sieged by 5 hours by militaries and pro-Maduro civilians, both groups hostaged the parliament members that were in a sesion when the siege begun.
The government acted so fucking sketchy and everyone already know that the guy was an actor from a action movie, and the 'attack' wasn't what the government said. The government never mentioned anything about the crew in the helicopter, but only about Oscar, the actor, and in the video released on instagram by Oscar, there were guys wearing masks as if they already knew they would not be captured

>>131687809

South american left is still stuck into the old school left economy they will keep expropriating private industries ( and scaring away foreign investors )

then claim its "for the people" and just replace the heads with their own buddies thus creating a oligarchy

Just see what the president that came right after Pinochet said about the coup and the state of the country at the time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n9M7EEDLlA

>The reporter asks: As Chairman of the Christian Democratic Party, what do you think were the causes of the action of the Armed Forces?

>Patricio Aylwin responds: As we have said in several statements, our opinion is that the economic crisis, the Popular Unity attempt to monopolize power by any means, chaos and institution destruction that had brought the government of Mr. Allende across the country, caused a degree of collective despair and distress in most of the Chilean population, which precipitated this pronouncement of the Armed Forces. We have the conviction that so-called Chilean way of driving the socialism, which pushed and hoisted the banner of the Popular Unity, and exhibited a great deal abroad, was complete failed, and that were knew by the militants of the Popular Unity and that were knew by Allende, and therefore they were preparing, through the organization of armed militias, which were very heavily equipped and they were a real parallel army were preparing to give a self-coup and take by force the entire power. In these circumstances we think the action of the armed forces simply anticipated that risk to save the country from falling into civil war or into a communist dictatorship.

>>131683577
>and explain how Venezuela can get out of the economic crisis caused by low oil prices and large debts
Really?

>>131688177
well pretty simplistic really
starve him, sleep deprevation, then propably beat him, break his fingers, and if they fill specialy kinky, shove lightbulbs up his ass

All this makes me want to install Tropico again...

>>131689209
was thinking electric shock desu

>>131689174
Man, can you give a quick word about inflation in your country? I thought we were bad!

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>>131688657

>>131679701
4U

>Abstract
The study analyses the reports drawn up between 1973 and 1980 by
the Czechoslovak rezidentura in Santiago de Chile. These
documents are key to a critical reflection of mutual relations of this
period, little known up to now. The paper presents not only
Czechoslovak interests in the country, but at the same time pays
attention to the collaboration with the East German secret service
aimed at supporting Chilean Communists.
Keywords: Chile, Czechoslovakia, East Germany, International
Relations, Secret Services


Pdf : http://www.revistas.usach.cl/ojs/index.php/izquierdas/article/viewFile/1935/1802

If anyone from /k/ can recognize those weapons it would be helpful but the claims are that they came from the Baltic

>>131679589
VE POR ELLOS OSCAR

>>131690208
It is funny how the same people that scream that the US were trying to influence the politics in the region during the 60s/70s completely ignore that Cuba/USSR were doing the same

>>131691311

The fun part is that Cuba keeps doing it , their "doctors and teachers" marry left leaning people in the continent and then join the local Socialist/Communist party

Fuck that Island ( and Trudeau )

>>131672253
The communist systems in Russia and China failed.
N. Korea is starving, you call tht success?
Socialism ALWAYS fails.

>>131690125
1 print a lot of money to give free shit to poor people instead of educate them/give them a job
2 waste more than your country can produce
3 inflation

>>131692485
What do you do to protect yourself? Bitcoin?
I know what's happening, I wanna know what people are doing about it.

>>131692747
Here the common folk (privileged that could save money) buy US dollars.
They prefere to loose an anual 2% ofthe value of their savings (usa anual inflation) than 25%-30% anual value loose of argentinian pesos..
That is the most sofisticated things common people do.
I dont know how to buy bitcoins in this country, the system is too retarded to buy cryotocurrencies here

it's interesting how the narrative on pol shifted into "blame communism and move on" even tho it's not as easy as that.
Im not a supporter of communism or leftism in general, but there is a good reason for the US to do what they are doing to Venezuela...

There are reports of food literally being held back from entering Venezuela, even tho this could help people from starving couldn't it?

just keep in mind that pretty much every country on earth is a failed state when you take debt into account, yet only a couple of them get called on those (((debts))), i wonder why?

>>131694361
You dont like debt?
What do instead of being in debt then?

>>131693327
Buy crypto, it's fun and makes you happier, though Gold has the same effect and is physical.
Take care, hermano.

>>131694361

Maduro blocked the entry not the US , you can't send packed / dried food anymore , sane for dollars.

As for the fail part of it is not being smart enough to think 3 steps ahead in case of disaster , the OIL they produce needs to be processed outside of the country , now that inflation devaluated their currency it is not possible to make use of most of that Oil directly as they can't afford the refinery

Their gold reserves have also been sold long ago ,there is nothing left

Worst case scenario : the country collapses due to internal struggles + natural disaster ( floods are common ) then Clintons can bank in and help "reconstruction" only to build 1/5 of what they where supposed to build and many kids will disappear to pedo trafficking just like in Haiti

>>131694361
>There are reports of food literally being held back from entering Venezuela,

Can you give me those reports? It's probably smugglers or gangs or Venezuela army at border. They are going trade food for what? Venezuela shitty currency.

>>131660775
This is the Summer Coup in Turkey all over again my dudes. Some gay retarded false flag so Marudo has an excuse to secure more power and go full kike on his people.

>>131681183
Still low IQ mud people hermano. Not to mention, they're still starving, with no vehicles or heavy armaments

>>131695577
Maduro has no chance if he doesn't mimick North Korea and Cuba system or is toppled down with Vice-President and his high-ranking military officers behind him. Oil prices won't rise again for Venezuela and rest of OPEC and no foreign interest is going to invest in a country that expropriates assets, companies in that country.

>>131679980
What a shitpost

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>>131661253

>Implying the average venezuelan can afford a helicopter without being caught

>Implying it wasnt' a fake flag from maduro

>>131695249
Thanks I will try, brazilians are always my bros

>>131692747
most Argentines lost the culture of saving, and the ones that save use dollars

>>131694361
Tell us what's US doing to Venezuela then.
You just don't understand South American politicians, they are corrupt as hell, and in Maduro's case, dumb as fuck. It doesn't matter if America hates them, in fact they take advantage of that narrative to justify everything, just like what's going on in Cuba. It's easy having the US as your enemy,
Maduro isn't Gadaffi or Assad btw, you didn't see food shortage or insane levels of crime in Libya or Syria. And Venezuela isn't even under civil war.