Croatia-Slovenia border dispute

Make Slovenia Great Again.

Sorry, lads ... this can only be resolved by war. Also, we haven't had a good happening in a while..

>>131659109
Not an argument
>>131659468
War? Are you insane?

>>131658856
Take Italys sea you dirty handed mountain-croats!

>>131659701
build a corridor through italy if you really want international waters.

>>131658856
Croatia should kill itself.
I agree that we should allow another country to be present in the waters. Croatia is jewing and sperging out here they already have a greater coast than slovenia n they wanna take that last bit too.
>History
>Rightful clay

There is no such thing as rightful clay

>we should get someone else's sea because we want it WHAAAAA WHAAA

>>131660219

How would that look? I can't even imagine it. This is a really weird argument.

>>131660326

It's not yet decided if it's yours or ours. Neither have claim.

Are such simple things difficult to understand for you?

>>131660342
Why is stealing from Italy crazy, but stealing from Croatia ok?
Nevermind, I forgot that you are a mountain-croat and therefor any attempt at arguing with you is in vain.

>>131660441
>everyone including Slovenia agreed to the present day borders 30 years ago
>whaaa whaaa we changed our mind, gibsmedat

>>131660554

It's not croatian water. Italys water is italian. This spot of water is neither croatian neither slovenian, as it has not yet been decided.

No wonder croatia is so poor if you guys are this incredibly stupid that you can't even grasp the notion of ownership.

>>131660342
>weird argument
You moron have you even looked into our border disputes
Look at the drnovsek-racan agreement which sabor turned down, because this is what will beb the most probable outcome ie a corridor

>>131658856
>So tomorrow, at 9:00, the border dispute will be resolved by the five arbiters

Regardless of the decision, the water and the land shall remain Croatian as it was since the indepedence.

Zlovenians don't be tats.

>>131660985
Hrvat vedno tat

>>131660680
>his spot of water is neither croatian neither slovenian
Looking at the maps, it's marked as Croatian and that's the way it's been since 1992. You agreed to it.
>No wonder croatia is so poor
Can Slovenes go a day without boasting about their 200 euro higher salaries?
The only way you'll steal our sea is by using military force which means never because you don't have any.

>>131660985

>agree to arbitrage
>won't respect it if it doesn't go their way

Truly Slovenia is the division between balkan and Europe.

>>131661115
>agree to arbitrage
>slovene kikes cheat
>pull out

>>131658856
>Capodistria

>>131661078

I don't know about 200€ mate, I'm making more money than your president does and I'm not even paid that well.

>>131658856
Croatia already has a shit ton of sea access, so why can't Slovenia have a little?

>>131661205
>agree to arbitrage
>find out you're getting screwed
>cry foul
typical croat
ovaj sud ni dobar

>>131660275
>there is no such thing as rightful clay
>checks flag

Holy moly, did you escape your Serb irredentism class?
I mean no offense, but it is usually your country/kinsmen that cry about rightful claim. Tbh I am only surprised that no one wanted to return Dušan era borders

>>131661315

Croats don't have border agreements with any of their neighbours. Once again, Europe starts with Slovenia, south is balkan. This is the human garbage we have to deal with.

>>131661315
You have 2 cars
I dont have a car
Gib me 1

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vote for GOD in next election fags

>>131661624

One has to work for cars. Croats didn't have to work for that water, they just said it's theirs.

>>131661528
>human garbage we have to deal with
>said the country whose largest contribution to European and world history are a few skiers and a golddigger

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>>131658856
I'm with you Slovenia Bro.

Slovenia has a right to reach international waters without transiting the waters of another country.

I'm not even sure why Croatia would be a dick about that.

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>>131661276
Are you seriously boasting about 200-300 euros?
>muh not balkans
>muh t-turks
>muh central europe
How can a nation be so insecure?
>>131661315
Because that's not how things are done. Italy already has so much land, why not give Slovenia a little? You can't just have something for free because you want it.

>>131661683
Why would u vote for him

>>131661624
Not equivalent at all. It would be more like if I had 1000 cars, and you my good friend, wanted 5.

>>131661856
It's not land, it's sea access.

>>131661528
>garbage
you cheated, got caught colluding

>>131661390
Even those you speak of are pathetic within their own framework.
If youre gonna talk about historic clay go for the best, not meet in the middle.

But that is why i say there is no such thing as rightful clay, countries borders change and its people move and change demographics, if everyone were to pick and choose what clay is there, there simply wont be any clay left.

>>131661790
Except we gave birth to founding father of space travel. And first proof of calculation of Ludolfs number (Pi). And gave basis to the american constitution. And...

Meanwhile the only thing bosnia did is having the lowest average IQ in entire Europe, barely beating African niggers at 84. 84 IQ in Slovenia means you are entitled to early pension for being too mentally retarded to work. That's bosnias average.

Go fuck yourself you muzzie retard

>>131661800
Look at the shape of our country. Our ancestors fought for the little land we have. We lost territory to a massive empire, later went against entire Yugoslavia only to give away territory for free to whiny mountain kikes? The decision tomorrow will mean nothing even if it's in our favor.

>>131658856
fuck ... balkan war again

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>>131658856
>Umag

>>131662261
And at another point in history your country was enslaved and its boarders changed more times than you can possibly count. What your "ancestors" fought for in terms of territory is something that is not credible when it comes to determining what territory a country should have and magically get from another.

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>>131658856

Integrate both countries into Hungary. Problem solved.

>>131662261
>Went against yugoslavia
How excatly? By saying you wont allow JNA forces to cross over and then doing the exact opposite?

>>131658856
Why not just divide the the waters evenly?
Slovenia should get the bay, itsly should have everything northeast if that, and Croatia should have everything below

>>131662244
WE WUZ JEFFERSON N SHIT
NOW WE WHITE HOUSE, NIGGA

>>131658856
Why Italy and Croatia bully little Slovenia ? Both of them have giant open coastlines and can't let little Sovenia have a bit?
Guess someone is jelly that they're woman was not chosen to be married to the POTUS.

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>>131662503
MATTHIAS CORVINUS WILLS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>131659109
You're in bed with the most powerful man on Earth, pretty sure you will be made great again
Trump is looking to re-read eastern Europe and help dig it out of it's communist PTSD for good

Our prime minister and woman president want Croatia to be EU-rificized. They will give Slovenia as much of sea as they want and Slovenia knows that.

>>131662831
Everything below Slovenia is balkan territory, common sense and politics dont work there especially when it comes to croats

>>131662865

>wat is knežji kamen

yeah, uneducated retarded bosniak detected. You gotta go back muslim filth

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>>131658856
It should be like this desu, Italy already cucked Slovenia out of a real coastline and does Croatia really need those waters? At the very least give the fuckers some kind of movement ability or an elongated corridor

Slavs aren't very good at conflict resolution

>>131661624
>Ocean access
>The same as a motor vehicle you purchase and build from scratch
Nein

>>131660326
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>>131661205

Why don't you just give them the goddamn bit of sea? You've got an entire fucking coast and it looks like they can't even get to international waters without this "corridor". Why are you such idiots?

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>>131661683
There is only one god, please do not insult us

>>131663096
WE WUZ NASA
WE WUZ ALGEBRA
WE WUZ FOUNDING FATHERS
WE WUZ WHITE HOUSE

WE

>>131662503
We will not allow it unless you Blanda up with Austria again, they need help

>>131663319
WE WUZ GROFS AND SHIT

>>131663319

Historical facts aren't we wuz ahmed. Pick up a book, if you can even read.

>>131661800
>has right
Not according to international maritime law.
>fair
Mine is mine, yours is yours.
>dick
Ad hoc arbitrage... let's go to international tribunal for the law of the sea - that is Cro proposal from the beginning... but nooooo
Slo knows they cant make case there.

>>131663212
Why don't you fucking understand that they have no claim to that sea.they entire argument is that they need this access,becase they have no entry to international sea.So what?Let them fight for it if they want it.

>>131663453
Because international courts take fucking forever and the winner is decided by who throws the most money at the council not who is right

Istria and Dalmazia belong to Italy
Here's how we solve the dispute: you git the fuck out of clay nostra

>>131658856
Give it all to Italy

>>131663555
It's a tiny bit of fucking water and you've got an entire coastline. You're being petty and pathetic, probably because you're emasculated by the fact that they make more money than you, lol.

>>131663603
How long has that strip of land been Italian that borders Slovenia(as in italian people living there)?
Is it a South Tyrol type thing?

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>>131660054
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>>131660275
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>>131662499
Landlocked countries please go.

>>131661624
also no fags

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>>131663633
Shut up codfucker you lost your right to speak of the sea long ago

>>131663453
We want to solve land and sea borders
Second of all we already had a deal drnovsek-racan and sabor turned it down

>>131663432
WE WUZ BOOK READERZ

BITCHES DON'T KNOW BOUT MY KATEKIZEM

>>131663096
>You gotta go back muslim filth
I really wish it were possible to kick them out. Just gather everyone that got handed citizenship 25 years ago because muh refugees and their descendants as well and just kick them the fuck out.

>>131663212
>Why don't you just give them the goddamn bit of sea? You've got an entire fucking coast

Jesus Christ, what a female way of thinking.
''Whaaa whaaa, he has a lot and he doesn't. Give him some, you have plenty''

Real world doesn't work that way. The land and water are Croatian and giving it up would be an infrigment of Croatian integrety.
Even if tomorrow you were to wake up in a world completly owned by Croatia except for Zlovenia, your argument would still be invalid.

>>131663710

The rats got it after ww2 for being the "winners", even though they aligned with Hitler. Perks of being a big country.

>>131663432
>historical facts
The influencing of the american constitution by jean bodin's book owned by jefferson is a meme and has been proven as such; the only ones who claim it did are venetic theory tier "historians"

>>131663829
What about the shite slavs that are not Arab and just live peacefully?

>>131663710
It belonged to Venice and to the Byzantines before them.

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>>131662503
Here comes hunor

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>>131658856
Italy need more space. Give back Istria.

>>131663869
>Perks of being a big country.
for you

>>131663869
Italy get out of clay now
Slovenia deserves it more

>>131658856
border disputes should be resolved by conquest

>>131663212
Your flag matches your cucked mindset Nigel bin Salman al Muhammed

>>131663603
Son, you'll make me start neo-fojbe.

>>131663947
>Byzantines
Larpers don't count as people
Venetians are Italy's jews

>>131663710
Ceded to Italy after World War One from Austria-Hungary. It's literally older than Slovenia itself.

Italians have historically made up the majority of the population in most Istrian cities

>>131659468
This desu I would like a Balkan genre the Syria general is starting to get old plus it might be as good as ug.

>>131663670
Are you a woman?

>>131663885
>just live peacefully
These people are a nuisance. They can't even speak the language after 25 years here. They keep to themselves and start fights. They're basically nogs.

>>131664035
Not with slavs hombre, they fight for decades and slaughter each other like crazy
Would be safer to settle with treaty
Plus the entire region would be fucked because we would arm all sides and everything would get blown to hell due to shiny American toys

This is why sl*vs don't deserve istria, give it all back to Italy. They'll do better with it anyway, they fucking made it nice in the first place

>>131664066
I mean, gib Dubrovnik and Split at least

>>131664085
I take back what I said then
>World War One
It's The Great War, don't insult it with such a terrible name

>>131663885

Serbs, croats and bosniaks and other ex yugo filth here are literally what niggers are in USA. Literally.

>>131664201
Where are they mostly from?

>>131664155
>muh feelings
We went to arbitrage which is INTERNATIONAL LAW - OBJECTIVE you found out you're getting screwed and you backoff from the agreement

>>131659468
Yes all parties involved play king of the hill on the disputed water with their navies. The neutral arbiters decide how long you have to hold the hill to win.

>>131663212
>dude just give in and be a cuck lmao
>>131663578
>winner is decided by who throws the most money
No amount of money would help Slovenes in the international court. They know they'd lose because it's a nonsensical dispute based entirely on gibs. Daily reminder that tomorrow's decision is irrelevant. The actual decision will be made by the international court.
>>131663793
>We want to solve land and sea borders
There nothing to solve regarding the sea border. Everyone agreed to it 30 years ago.
International court or gtfo and no cheating this time, Janez. I have nothing against Slovenia, but this kind of nigger-tier gibsme behavior is not something I expected from Slovenia.

>>131664216
Europeans have become decadent. They crave problems and are currently importing radical islam and sub saharan savages.

An Eastern European war will sate the white man's desire for blood and mayhem for at least another decade.

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>>131658856
Croatians are already throwing a fit over some alleged corruption attemps, so the Slovenes will probably win. In turn the butthurt will be so massive that Croatia will start a nuclear program.
As usual, this non issue will be remembered for generations and will be discussed right after the issue of Teslas nationality is solved.

i just cant resist....mhhhRAH....gueh...spblikskkk....
ISTRIA E DALMAZIA NE SLOVENIA NE CROAZIA

ITS NOT SPLIT , ITS SPALATO
ITS NOT DUBROVNIK,ITS RAGUSA DI DALMAZIA
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY

IT FIUME NOT rijeka

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the treaty of london was not respect.
insted jugolasvia was created.
really made me think.

>>131664229
>Italy
>Doing anything with it but turning it shitskin
You're funny Anglo scum
>>131664305
What the fuck happened with Yugo? It seems like after the fall they all went insane
Czechoslovakia did not have this problem so why did Yugoslavia?

>>131664450
>alleged

>>131658856
Just give piran to Croatia and Capodistria to Italy.

>>131664269
>Give my hometown
>receive enrichment
lolnope.jpg

>>131664521

We were always much more advanced than rest of yugoslavias' region. We had higher literacy rate in 1920 than serbia does today, for example. I have no fucking idea why we join yugoslavia, we simply did not belong there.

Sorry, but looking at that map, I agree with Croatia.

As an arbiter tomorrow, I look forward to keeping it that way.

>>131664433
>cheating
Both sides agreed to give power to the arbiters, they didnt find any corruption in the process hence no cheating
Oh and your arbiter basically slept there and probably did the same thing, the only question is did someone try to screw us over, or is out goverment actually that retarded

>>131664585
>Your
what

>>131664434
Eastern euros don't deserve that though, they're barely out if communism
Ffs they haven't been even 20 years since their last conflict yet
Western Europe needs to be turned into a war zone not the slavs

>>131663578
>not a single valid argument given
They were caught colluding with judges... on tape.
AdHoc tribunal which operates on principles of fairness not actual maritime law.

>>131664394
Dude,just reconcile with the fact that you are not geting that sea

>>131664647
>y-your arbiter probably did t-the same thing
Not an argument.

>>131663212
Well, it is more principle of the economy than of any other real cause. Slovenia posses Koper port, which is closest easy accessible sea port for Hungary, Austria Bohemia... You get the picture. Croats poses second most acessible port for those countries: Rieka (italian Fiume, for historical orientation). Since cargo from Rijeka has only really viable transport route trough Slovenia, for countries interested, Foreign transport mainly landed in Koper (less bureaucracy, evading double border tax pre-EU). If connection with international waters would be lost, Lots of shipment would be shifted to Rieka, which would be great economic bonus, especially with booming economy of post communist countries.

And this is all the story.

>>131664478
Because America was against under the table treaties.

>>131664554
Told ya, it's already under way.

>>131664521
>What the fuck happened with Yugo?
Rothschilds and their lapdog anglos refuse to accept the fact that you can't force multiple ethnicities to live together in peace. look at the 'melting pot' in USA FFS.

Let's just make it so the coastline from Capodistria to Cattaro goes to Italy.
Then there's no more issues about balkan denizens not having sea access: if nobody has it its like everyone has it

OK?

>>131664478
Thats what you get for betraying your allies, you fucking pasta muncher.

>>131664521
>turn it shit skin
No they will turn it prosperous where people don't make embarrassingly low wages and argue over bullshit. Shitskins will only want to come because it's actually doing well. If you're implying it's better that the sl*vs make it shitty so that nobody wants to come, you're a genuine brainlet

>>131664477

Gabriele D'Annunzio pls go away. Nobody likes you.

>>131664346
Mostly Bosnia and Croatia to an extent from my experience. It's funny that a lot of them never even visit these places and they still insist on larping as yugo braća.

>>131664759
Do you know how the EU works?
We will either get the sea or the land and either way you will be buthurt

>>131664477
i agree, legit italian clay

>>131664754
Maritime law is ignored majorly by pretty much every world power with even a smidge of a navy
Using it as a guide for governing disputed is useless
Far as I see it denying Slovenia a right to open water after having it is completely wrong and those who wish it need to be jailed for thinking such crazy things.
Clay theft is in thing but clay theft for the singular purpose of revoking water rights to a neighboring nation is Stalin level evil

>>131658856
>Croatian economy is to some extent dependant on ours

>>131660275
Not everyone is ready to give away their land like the Serbs.

>>131664908
Name one other poet who could single-handedly organise an invasion

>>131664908
He's supposed to be dead.

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>>131664433
What's really pathetic is being so emasculated by Slovenia's better economy and living standards

I hope those big strong Slovenians come and take that water away from you

Haha. Cucked!

Did you guys know that Venice used current day slovenia as a slave warehouse?

>>131664478
>the treaty of london
Well, you know, you declare war against very nations that guaranteed you gains. This usually backfires.

>>131665126
Those poor slaves, having to live in Slovenia

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>>131662244
>literally never were a country and only act they performed was being stableboys

I hate defending this fictional country, but at least it has historical context unlike your titoist invention of a state

>>131663670
>Falkland is a tiny island and you've got a much bigger island already.

>>131664611
>he thinks he can have a country without yugoslavians behind
topkek

>>131663710
The city proper was majority Italian but the surrounding countryside was majority Slav

The KuK should have been reformed into a Czech/Austrian/Slovene union and Triest should have remained an Austrian port

>>131664849
Not to change the subject because it interests me, but we were a melting pot when the immigrants were European (white). Now, we're a salad bowl, unfortunately.

>>131665274
If you can have a country cleansed of Italians and G*rmans, Bosnians and Croshits should not be that much of a challenge.

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>>131660680
>be slovenian
>owe moneys from ljubljanska banka
>rename it to new ljubljanska banka
>patronize about ownership

How about we just give Eastern Slovenia to Croatia, and Western Slovenia to Italy

>>131664839
We we're controlled 1000% by Jews at that time, nothing good was ever going to come of any treat being made during the period
>>131664849
Well it wasn't really force, had we actually pushed the issue instead of on making half hearted attempts segregation would still be heavily in effect today. We kind of just let it happen on our own. But we can thank Reconstruction for that
>>131664891
>Anglo
>Advocating for turning more white clay over to nigger and kebab
And you wonder why most of us cheer your destruction

>>131664611
You do realise if you didn't join you would have been split in half by Italy and Austria?

>>131664808
>Koper port, which is closest easy accessible sea port for Hungary, Austria Bohemia... You get the picture

Except you don't get the picture.
Koper (Capodistria for historical orientation) is irrelevant.
The real players are Trst and Rijeka. They are both bigger ports and better accessible.

>>131665476
Give something to Austria too, after all, they basically lives from Austrian culture

>>131665044
1. If you knew maritime law you would know that Slovenia already has open sea access.
What they want is part of Croatian territorial waters because their politicians are too ignorant to know that.
2. We dont have to give shit to anyone and especially not to someone who tried to fuck as over every chance they got.

>>131664951
You're full of it, Janez. Slovenia is 18% Serbian/Bosnian and only 2% Croatian. I know how you like to lump all of us together, but don't think Croats come to Slovenia for anything but skiing. We had a bunch of serbs who left for Slovenia just before the war and most Croats in Slovenia have been there since ww1.

>>131664951
Sounds like Russians
Don't take this wrong way but I used to be friends with a young Croatian girl and from the many people she showed me lots looked more like tan Bosnian than whites
What gives? I thought croats were white

>>131665623
Amen
>Croatia wants to enter EU
>block it until they let go of the money they owe you

Like said, making Slovenia a country was one of Tito'a greatest sins.

>>131665421
That is a valid point. However, history recorded a lot of animosity even back in those days. I guess that vestiges of primordial tribalism are strong in human nature. Hell, look at any team sport match anywhere in the world.

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>>131665455
if it weren't for the yugoslavs, italy would sweep up this place in about 10 hours or something

>>131665702
>tanned Bosnians
Whatthefuck

>>131665536
As i said, Koper only flourished because Italians don't give shit about Trst (Trieste) and Rieka was burdened by Double Border tax. Location wise, Rieka has better location. But, politics are real, and basically, sucks to be you.

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>>131665391
So South Tyrol then
Why don't you fuckers just speak plainly?
>>131665476
Shut up bongland, you are not important enough to suggest anything
>>131665623
I thought this was Crostia trying to take what's left of Slovenia's water clay

>>131663212
>Why don't you just give them the goddamn bit of sea?
I don't even know the details of the whole Piran dispute bullshit, I'm against giving the Slovenes a single liter of our sea simply because they're insufferably annoying cunts.

We're talking about a """country""" that shot at retreating Yugoslav People's Army teenagers just so they could pretend that they had an independence war.

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Reminder:

NATIONAL FASCIST PARTY-DIgnano divisional Command

ATTENTION:
It is strictly forbidden to speak or sing in a slavic idiom while publicly out on the streets of Dignano.
Only Italian can be used while inside any kind of shop.
We Squadristi,with persuasive methods, will make sure the rules are followed.

Signed

The Squadristi

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>>131665476
Slovenia is a non-country, so this is the best choice.

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>>131665874
It's all about organizaton. Granted, you are slavs, but Italians are well - let's say barely human.

>>131665481
>sl*vs
>white
Not to mention I'm sure the people living there would rather live first world lives and see a sandnig here and there than live 2nd world lives losing all their smartest people to emigration

>>131666012

You, serbs, bosniaks, etc. aren't people. Stop lying you filthy animals.

>>131658856
On one hand, I do agree with the Slovenian demand for access to international waters. On the other hand, the notion of the border following the coast of Istria is absurd - imagine standing on land and you're in Croatia, but when you step in the sea you're in Slovenia. That's just fucking retarded.

We should give half the corridor, and Italy should give the other half.

Also, to answer to some of the other posters saying how we pulled out of arbitration because it wasn't going our way - no, the reason we pulled out is because our intelligence service managed to spy on your lawyer adding evidence into the case after the evidence gathering phase was done and colluding with one of the arbiters, foolishly enough by phone.

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>>131665891
Like this

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>>131665603
It's official then

>>131666012
>tfw Serbs saw no reason to go to war with you since they can't make claims so they gave up after 6 days to not waste money, but you still claim it's a war and how you won

>>131663737
B&H ain't landlocked - they have 12 miles of coast

Plenty of Slovene diaspora ITT.

>>131666085
>Not to mention I'm sure the people living there would rather live first world lives and see a sandnig here and there than live 2nd world lives losing all their smartest people to emigration
Hang yourself race traitor

>>131666114
Stay salty, stablecuck.

>>131666012
Coming from the faggots who said they wont alllow JNA forces to pass
but guess what your fuckers screwed us over

Faggots. Slovenian coast belongs to Italy, and the rest of Slovenia belongs to Austria. Case closed.

>>131666273

Coming from a croat, kek, that's cute. You were literally the same, except you had to guzzle muzzie cum during ottoman days and we didn't.

>>131663453
>let's go to international tribunal for the law of the sea - that is Cro proposal from the beginning... but nooooo. Slo knows they cant make case there.

do you even know what you’re talking about?
PCA also decided about the maritime features in south china sea. It’s the same court. They have jurisdiction to decide borders on the sea. It’s UNCLOS. Croatians may have suggested it, but it takes two to take the matter to court, which both did.

Slovenia wanted to cheat, however the slovene and croatian arbiters were kicked out of the decision-making process afterwards and the court appointed two international abiters. Together they decided the process was not contaminated (see, the judges that represent international community decided it was not contaminted not slovenia) and the court could continue its work.

Croatia just needed a reason to opt out of it, despite the fact that the court is as objective as humanly possible right now.

How do you plan to resolve the border issue with us (and all countries around you), if you don’t agree to anything? Are you some nigger-tier country that can’t act maturely?

I admit Slovenia wasn’t much better for communicating with the slovene arbiter, but we respected the fact that we got kicked out of the court and we will respect the decision even if it’s not in our favour.

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>>131666128
Since you're all in the EU, why does this matter anyway. Mama Angela will replace you with Africans within the decade anyway.

>>131664394
Hahahaha oh wow.

If you cared about international law, the case would be done in front of the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea (which Croatia proposed, and Slovenia refused).

Arbitration is a POLITICAL-LEGAL process, not a purely legal process, because Slovenian government knew that in a purely legal process they'd lose.

>>131666012
kek, well said ante, enough of WE WUZ

hrvat je brat, ne tat

>>131666246
Says the subhuman who lives in a literal 54% white country , because it's actually first world

>>131665976
>I thought this was Crostia trying to take what's left of Slovenia's water clay
There's no "taking" here. The borders were drawn and agreed upon 30 years ago by Slovenia, Italy and Croatia. What's happening now is gibsmedat plain and simple.
Basically, the arguments are:
>you have so much of it, just give away a little
>not giving up our territory for free

>>131666349

Ottomans raided, plundered and raped Slovenia for about 100 years. Don't act like you haven't been Turk'D either shitskin.

>>131666128
Yet the arbiters ruled there was not enough corruption to end the process so it doesnt matter sadly

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>>131658856
Slovenia should be able to use the corridor to have blue water access, but should retain no commercial use of the area otherwise. Let croatia have the resources, and allow slovenia to use it for transport.

>>131663603
why doesn't italy just invade slovenia and croatia and be done with this dispute? it's not like they can do anything to stop you

>>131666128
>imagine standing on land and you're in Croatia, but when you step in the sea you're in Slovenia. That's just fucking retarded.
This. Who thinks this is a good idea? This is people's livelihood at stake here.

>>131666471

Slovenia was never under Ottoman rule čefurčić. Even our language is 100% archaic slavic, where as serbocroatian consists 40% of turcisms. Even your fucking language is just a version of turkish, kek.

REEEEEEEEEEEE
CROATIA GIB ME SEA.
Kek no.

>>131664394
>byzantine lies


>you found out you're getting screwed
you tried

On 22 July 2015 major international scandal occurred during arbitration procedure, when the Croatian daily newspaper Večernji list claimed to be in possession of transcripts and audio recordings[118] showing that a Slovenian judge on the arbitration panel, Jernej Sekolec, had been in collusion with a representative from the Slovenian government. Sekolec, a member of the arbitration panel, allegedly put pressure on other arbitration panel members, Gilbert Guillaume (France), Bruno Simma (Germany) and Vaughan Lowe (UK), to rule in Slovenia's favor, and helped Slovenia by revealing secret communications, which was strictly forbidden by arbitration rules

>We went to arbitrage which is INTERNATIONAL LAW - OBJECTIVE
Nope.
The Arbitration between Croatia and Slovenia is brokered by the European Commission, not
International tribunal for the law of the sea.

AdHoc arbitrage:
'Unusually, the Agreement employs the language of
>‘fairness’ and ‘justice’ in qualifying the result.'

https://www.ejiltalk.org/arbitration-between-croatia-and-slovenia-leaks-wiretaps-scandal-part-2/

>>131666349
>and we didn't.
Did you even exist back then?

>>131666138
>reverse Google the pic
>Kosovar """""Bosnians"""""
>ie Gorani
>ie Mountain dwelling serbobulgars

Bosnians, aside podrinje orthodox/muslim Serbs, are usually whiter than us Hercegshits, and we are mainly italo looking at worst

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>>131666489
>we should let the body accused of corruption decide whether or not it was corrupt

>>131666349
We were in the same exact situation as Hungary regarding the Ottomans. Are you saying Hungarians are turks? The people you associated with since the Slavs arrived on this area?
I like how Slovenes never talk shit about their masters.

>>131666349
At least croatia is pretty and has interesting cities
dubrovnik is a gem

>>131658856

just looking at a map...damn croatia is one hell of an effective coastline jew. nothing against them but im impressed they managed to take so much coastline.

>>131659701
>Europoors are so pussified that war is a scary concept to them

>>131666789
>>131666879

Being THIS turkish, literally nigger-tier IQ.

>>131666704
>40%

>>131666291
>"why didn't Croats die for us :((((((("

>>131658856
Do You realise that croatia offered FREE trespassing to slovenia through croatian sea long ago?

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>>131666417
Your people literally invented a word to excuse the fact that Anglos love to fuck foreigners
Adhom and use false shitty Anglo memes all you want but you are literally the last one that can talk about race purity
>>131666431
So Slovenia just wants more clay for free and you're saying no?
Why is it you guys always fight over the most petty shit I fucking swear

>>131666617
1) Italians can't fight, as demonstrated in WWII when they needed to call for German help at handling the Balkans. Even with Croatian Ustashe support, the Italians still failed at managing the Yugoslav Partisans. They can't do shit, we don't even a need a standing army to defeat them, I could singlehandedly defeat the entire Italian army using a bag of rocks.

2) We're NATO members

>>131666979
>having to share space with this kekec

>>131666582
This is too reasonable for the balkans.

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>>131658856
The thing is that you worked with the judges and we caught you, and dropped out of the kangaroo arbitar court. So whatever the decision will be, it wont matter. And you'll keep entering your "sea" in 1 by 1 fashion. Cheers

>>131666704

Lmao not even what you think I am but ok whatever. Fact remains that the Ottomans didn't need to conquer Slovenia to do damage. As I stated Slovenia was raided, plundered and raped by the Ottomans for 100 years so stop denying you werent turk'd.

>>131658856
Slovenia will lose the case. The waters are Croatian, but you will get an international shipping lane.

>>131666957
Look at a geographical map. Croatia should have had Bosnia whole, but lost much land to the Ottomans, the Dinaric coastal range held the Turks at bay

Slovenians are just Italians in denial

>>131666841
Okay, I like learning about you guys
Always something new
Thank you for being patient

>>131667058
I'm not talking about racial superiority. Even if you're white, your brain is subhuman.
You live in a non white country, which is prosperous and first world, but advocate for keeping Eastern Italian clay shitty and poor to keep it "white". How fucking hypocritical

>>131664478
While we were busy with turks...
You had no balls to do it yourselves - English crusaders did it for you
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Zara

>>131666961
>wanting a war between Europeans

>>131666026
based

>>131666957
There is not to take.Croats were there since 7th century and populated majority this areas throughout history.Only Italians were small minority.

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>>131667058
>Why is it you guys always fight over the most petty shit I fucking swear

Welcome to /ex-yu/

>>131663769
ayy yo biatch get back in da cuckshed before I beat yo white cracka ass

>>131658856
The fact that this is even an issue is pretty astonishing to me. It seems obvious that Croatia should just offer the water, how fucking petty are the people who think otherwise? You seriously think a tiny patch of water is more important than letting your neighbour access international waters? Do you think you're at war or something?

>>131666789
We were both Austro-Hungarian lapdogs, it's just that Slovenes (or whatever they called themselves back then) were stableboys for 1100 years and Croats for 800 years.

Slovenia and Slovenes were never, not even once, mentioned by their name anywhere prior to the 19th century. They quite literally did not exist in official records as anything but Austrians. Never did they have a self governing country/kingdom/state with borders prior to 1991. Their country was built by Austrians and they were considered lower class Austrians for the entirety of their history.

>>131667237
Oh and one more thing: Bosniaks ain't a real ethnicity, as they are either Croats or Serbs. Aside for Rasca/Sanjak "Bosniaks" who are half turk half Serb future taliban

>>131667099

Yeah quite, when do you plan to leave my country -ić?

>>131665391
>The KuK should have been reformed into a Czech/Austrian/Slovene union and Triest should have remained an Austrian port

This, Slovenian coast should be from Monfalcone to Trieste, because that was the area that was majority Slovenian.

What we have now used to be majority Italian, just as Istria was.

>>131658856
first time hearing about it
im with Slovenia

>>131667244
>You live in a non white country
Whatever keeps you from selfharm
https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20150317011622/http://newobserveronline.com/white-americans-remained-shockingly-european-despite-decades-pro-racial-mixing-propaganda-new-dna-study-reveals/?replytocom=492090

>>131667127
Lol,he must be diaspora Croat that returned to Croatia

>>131666979
This is what slovene kikes think of you, Hungarians. What a pathetic "nation".

>>131666876
>The arbiters were replaced
>The arbiters didnt consist of only croats and slovenes
>Being this retarded

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>>131665874
I think you might do alright,although I do like that sign,italian language is beautiful

>>131666876
there was only communication between the slovene government and slovene arbiter.

The remaining 4 arbiters had nothing to do with it.
Because of the discovered communication, the slovene arbiter was removed and an international arbiter (non-slovene) appointed.
At the same time Croatia decided they don’t want to participate any longer and removed their own arbiter. The court then appointed another international arbiter for them.

So, it’s objective.

>>131667421
Not to forget that
>Croatian retained a "border", a crown, a parliament, and a ban
>had been given a national homeguard in the 19th century
>entered the crown because it was inherited by a Hungarian

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>>131667385
The worst of flagposters
at least ancap NAP posts are funny

>>131665044
>denying Slovenia a right to open water
they have right to access open water - without interference
they have no right to claim territorial waters

>>131667058
>So Slovenia just wants more clay for free and you're saying no?
That's the objective truth. Borders were drawn agreed upon almost 30 years ago. Slovenia stands absolutely no chance in the internation court and they know it.

>>131667204
>mountain Croats are Italians

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>>131667458
>future taliban

>>131666759
>by the European Commission

no it’s not. You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about.
The arbitration in part of the Permanent Court of Arbitration. That same court decides on disputes worldwide.
UNCLOS can be enforced through ITLOS or PCA. Slovenia and Croatia agreed to choose PCA.

>>131667475
better behave janez, you wouldn't like argentina, caves even less

>>131658856
Your pic seems reasonable. Good luck bro

>>131658856

I can see the rationale for Slovenia getting a water way but the commercial value to Slovenia is strategic, there is no practical commerce Slovenia can use it for.

Historically the land belonged to the Croats but it holds little current strategic value. There is natural gas deposits below that sea bloc, but the gas requires US$15/mmbtu to extract.

>>131667590
What I love about all this is that you could have maybe won, but you kiked it. And now you aint getting shit no matter what the judges decide top kek

>>131667501
you still don't get my point brainlet. You can be pure white, but you still see shitskins daily.

>>131666291
We didnt let them pass.
You were attacked from the bases that are in Slovenia.
>With Croatia as a buffer between Slovenia and Serbia, Slovenia was able to maintain its independence and position as the most stable and prosperous of the former Yugoslav republics and joined the European Union on 1 May 2004.

>>131665461
cries out in pain while he stabs you in the back

>>131667421
>Slovenia and Slovenes were never, not even once, mentioned by their name anywhere prior to the 19th century

are you retarded?
>Primož Trubar just to name one.

>>131663426
kekked audibly

>>131664611
Comparing slovenia population too serbian

Wow, you really are retarded.

Also Austro Hungary and mandatory four year education under Marija Terezija

>>131668029
Ljubljana mayor Ivan Tavčar literally said slovenes are nothing but Alpine Croats you stupid nigger.
And that was 19th century

>>131667590
Well in any case, whatever the verdict is means fuck all because there is no instrument to actually enforce the verdict. And if you start sending ships, we start sending police and arresting them.

>>131667825

How does it feel knowing you will NEVER be treated as equal to us? You will ALWAYS be the retarded čefur that is here only to pave our roads. Kek. Now gtfo pol and go work for minimum wage, daddy needs a new boat.

>>131668003
go back to tumblr ffs

>>131667874
>not realising the internationally recognised border will sooner or later be enforced.

Even if we lose this and you gain it, you won’t accept the decision. That would be laughable. But of course, if the court decides in your favour, I bet the croatian government will change its mind.

>>131667411
Pričali smo o Američkoj 'melting pot' ideji u vrijeme kada je imigracija u SAD bila predominantno Europska.

>>131668204
It's like asking some German collaborator wether Switzerland should be independent.

>>131666381
Will the European Union survive another decade?

>>131667813
>Slovenia and Croatia agreed to choose PCA
No, Croatia wanted to do it through ITLOS, but you threatened us with stalling EU negotiations. It's like my compatriot said, you could have won, but you kiked yoursevles in trying to kike us.

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>>131668250
really activates my almonds

>>131668346
>>not realising the internationally recognised border will sooner or later be enforced.

corrupted =/= internationally recognized m'nibba
and who will enforce it, you? ;)

>>131667796
>implying that Croats too aren't Italian themselves

>>131666394
>wew lets just go to the ITLOS and solve one patch of border at a time instead of everything at once

>>131668250
>franci is THIS delusional
toppest kek, nothing beats janez thinking he's actually relevant in any way
10/10 sorry i simply can't be legit mad at you

>>131668602
foibe yourself out of the thread signor

>>131668523
the EU will recongise it and use diplomatic pressure on you..
If all else fails, we’ll block you when you try to enter Schengen or when you try to enter Eurozone.

>>131668512
Nvm.

>>131667244
>You live in a non white country
So are you. I heard a strong british accent calling some guy Aziz how much is this in pounds? Turn around and it was two pakis/indians,also he was a manlet,many such cases,sassd

>>131658856

We renounced all claims on the piranian bay when we gave savudria to croatia. Crying about it now is just pointless.

>>131668686
>the EU will recongise it and use diplomatic pressure on you
Any government that accepts a loss of territory is commiting political suicide. It won't happen, no matter how much pressure is applied.
>we’ll block you when you try to enter Schengen or when you try to enter Eurozone
good, both of those things are fucking awful

>>131668655
Then why are you here? Why don't you go back? To your relevant country?

You people are literally nigger tier. Literally. What Somalians are to Germany and what niggers are to the US, this is what you are to us.

>>131668714
Yes and it's actually first world. If your country is good shitskins will literally walk the earth to get there.
His argument for not having Italy retake its clay is that it will be good and immigrants will want to come. Boo hoo.
That's like saying you shouldn't have a beautiful wife because niggers will want to fuck her

>>131668464
If the inhabitants are as dumb as I know they are, it will survive until the end of time.

>>131668735
Nobody loves or supports us in Europe, we have no capable diplomats

Slovenia will get it

Croats should have been forced to ratify the Drnovšek Račan agreement before we let them into the EU. But of course we cucked and let them in without ratification.

>>131668686
>we’ll block you when you try to enter Schengen or when you try to enter Eurozone.
please block us too

>>131668888
Slovenia is a non-country, it's Croatian clay. The Bosnians can stay there for as long as they like <3

>>131668954
>Nobody loves or supports us in Europe
what about germany?

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>>131668954
>we have no capable diplomats
orly

>>131668970
You fucked us full time when entering the EU, so much so that everybody still hates you

>>131669057
Look čefurčić, enough is enough, if you don't watch your mouth you won't even get the minimum wage anymore.

>>131667058
>always fight
Never with Slovenes.
We are resolving conflict in a peaceful way.

>>131668888
i am in my country, i'm croatian and you're the one that is being tolerated here, never forget it, blaž

>>131669100
Naah man, merkel didn't even want to talk too our PM in the latest summit

Nobody did

>>131668236
this
WHEN WILL THEY LEARN

>>131667421
>Slovenians used to be Croats
Literal Serb teir YOU WUZing
It's pretty clear now that most of modern day Croats are converted Serbs

>>131663959
>no Vajdaság
>no Erdély
You had one job.

>>131666381
>Mama Angela will replace you with Africans within the decade anyway.
Pensioners dig up trash for plastic bottles in order to survive here. Our government isn't going to fund refugee welfare. If they don't speak Croatian and have actual relevant skills, they won't be able to survive in Croatia. We don't have any welfare security nets/systems in place to support them.

We should incorporate Trieste, erect the border wall with slovenia and end this shit.

>>131669100
Germany is pissed at the former commie government that tried to enact a law to protect UDBA killers from German judicial process (Lex Perkovic). So now they'll support Slovenia as punishment for that little stunt.

>>131669122
POHRVAĆENA

>>131667389
Gib USA corridor to Alaska...

>>131668970
How could you force a government of another country to ratify anything?
plz I want to know

>>131669248
Stop larping, serbfag.

>>131669460
Not lift our veto until you ratify it.

>>131666012
Lol you guys did the same thing you mongoloid.
>Muh Thompson, hurr durr
>Uboj za narod svoj
Have fun being kicked out of the EU for not following a simple procedure.

>>131669057

m8 let's be real, you are about to implode.

You have big problems ahead of you to solve. There are talks of a 12 billion € bailout for Croatian companies, stemming from Agrokor.

And guess who's going to pay?

Meaningless without a war. Borders are drawn with blood.

>>131669712
easy there, miloš, ištrian here

>>131669375
Perković was protected since the days of HDZ and Gojko Šušak. We still have communists ruling over us.

>>131669774
USA pressured you to lift the veto anyways. Don't pretend you did it out of the kindness of your hearts or to see your former Yugo compatriots join you in the EU.

Washington squeezed you and you folded instantly. There is no shame in this, we would (and have) done the same. After all, what is Slovenia or Croatia to America?

>>131669302
Your govenrment isn't on your side, they will do what their owners in Brussels tell them to. Maybe they will try to squeeze some extra gibs like the Hungarians and block it for a couple of months, but in the end you will get enriched as well. Everybody knows that the ex.yugo states have retained the old commies, they just changed the nameplates.
Africans can outlive Croatians and outbreed them as well.

>>131665690
http://www.yourdictionary.com/to-an-extent

>>131669333
come and take it.

I fuck many slovenian girls
they like me and i like thir pussy even tho its smelly and not sanitary
i never got stds tho cuz i always used condoms
croation girls have smellier pussies but at least their breath doesnt smell like dead babies and they are good a BJs and dont dent your dick

>>131669941
When the fuck did I say that? I said we cucked and let you in without ratification. Honestly I knew you Croats were retarded but I thought you could at least read.

>>131670028
this

>>131670028
>gorizia hoes
>slovenian girls
pick one

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>>131669896
THE gojko susak? nigga he would kill any commie with his hands if he could

>>131670157
Gorizia?, im talking lubjana

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>>131669959
>Africans can outlive Croatians and outbreed them as well.

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>>131670028
Soon.

>>131665702
>I thought croats were white
People aren't uniform in the Balkans. You get everything from white to full on darkies. Density of these varies.

>>131670028
t.errone
United italy was a mistake just like yugoslavia

>>131669959
Not happening. Refugees don't even want to live here.

>>131670225
>women in the capital are whores
Ow gee who would have thought.

>>131669333
Istria is italian, give it BACK.

t. Triestino

>>131661683
This!
>white sharia
he's doing god's work

>>131670225
ljubljana hoes are mostly imported exyu goods

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>>131670225
>bragging about getting laid in lefty paradise

>>131669988
>mostly
>to an extent
Make up your mind.

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>>131670028
>good a BJs and dont dent your dick
>being a thin dicklet

>>131669333
TRST

JE

NAŠ

>>131670511
Retard.

>>131669959
>Your govenrment isn't on your side, they will do what their owners in Brussels tell them to.
Correct. Does Switzerland have a Rothchild contollrd central bank?

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>>131670353
only thing italian in croatia are 100 meters deep caves where your cemeteries are

now piss off zitto animale

zivio TITO !

>>131670564
TRIESTE
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>>131670479
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>>131670350
Lol sad neets my dick saw action all the way to banja luka

truth is sloevenian girls like to be filled with a dick belonging to a man whose ancestors owned her grrat great grandparents