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FUCKING HAPPENING IN GERMANY

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GERMANY TO TEST UNIVERSAL INCOME IN SCHLESWIG HOLSTEIN

IF THIS WORKS, IT WIL BE GERMANY WIDE

http://www.focus.de/finanzen/experten/weik_und_friedrich/grundeinkommen-welche-argumente-dafuer-sprechen_id_7293202.html

WTF ITS FUCKING HAPPENING
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yea yea pretty cool

now about that sauce ma nigga
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>>131652954
>even more welfare for Achmed and Abdul
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Lucky fucks
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We already have a sort of universal income.

Everyone gets $400 + flat + health care in case of long-term unemployment.
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>>131652954
I like it. I could quit my job....like everyone else.
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press F for Germany's economy
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>>131653292

...sigh
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>>131652954
Her tits are perfect, gimme a name before it gets deleted
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>>131652954

How will this not encourage every lazy fuck in the EU to move in and abuse it.
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>>131652954
So what happens when 90 to 99 to 100% of it goes straight into the pockets of shitskins who flood in from every direction?

It fails, that's what happens, because I don't care if they ARE some of the most brainwashed people in existence, no one, and I mean no one, wants to pay taxes, most especially not when 80 to 99 percent of it goes straight to foreigners who don't even try to integrate even a little bit.

Enjoy your rape murder and mayhem, YOU INVITED IT IN!
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>Import over a million retarded third world immigrants.
>Expect UBI to work.
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>>131652954
BRAZIL 2.0
RIP FATHERLAND
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Basic income is the first step to a permanent consumerist underclass.

Money should be earned through the sweat of your brow
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>>131652954
if
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C O M M U N I S M
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>>131652954
>I could stop working
>I could still pay my rent
>I could shitpost and play vidya 24/7
Fuck working then. Where is my neetbux?
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>>131652954
>tfw you are trying to become first world and first world countries trying to level up with you by stooping low. Is this what white guilt is to which Millennials refer these days?
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>>131653361
Fucking hell I hate Germany.
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>>131653650
>even in a future where robotization starts to take the place of human jobs we must toil and suffer in shlomo's factory
you need to kys
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>>131652954
Bye Germany. It's been real.
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>>131652954
is there an incentive not to be a NEET with this?
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>>131652954
oh this is going to be a fucking disaster
>mfw everyone quits their jobs
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>be germany
>most likely be flooded by half of africa/arabia in the next years
>give them even more motivation to come here
I literally can't even
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>>131652954
they should try UBB isntead(universal basic benefits)
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i like the new chavist movement
its gonna be great, trust me, this time, a first world class doing it
gonna be great
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>>131653292
it is not unconditional and destroys any intentions to work. give them a little bit less without conditions and they will work for a little bit extra.
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>>131652954
That's it!

I'm packing and moving to Germany
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>>131654000
>is there an incentive not to be a NEET with this?
Well, living on gibs too long is liable to make you devolve into a nigger.
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>>131652954
Time to take a trip to Germany
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>>131653650
which jobs do you think will a cab driver or a mcdonalds worker do? they are incapable and killnig them is not an option. give them the basics and let them work for every bonus.
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>>131652954
The worst part is that it's not wide scale from the start. The faggots in Schleswig Holstein won't need to keep on working; only those who are persuing their careers will continue to work. This'll have a bad knock-on affect to the rest of Germany who'll now be footing the bill for a small county.

On the other hand, this could be a honey pot for the Achmeds, and maybe it's to "diversify" the peoples of Schleswig Holstein.
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good goy
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Okay so Germans might not want to be working now.
Can I come as a cheap IT labour and live in your country peacefully.
I won't touch your ladies, I'll work hard, pay taxes.
PS- I'm Hindu and I'm really pale.
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Looks like it is time to move to germany.
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>>131652954
>OP NEET weeb gets excited about his government stipend being potentially increased

vid related, it's you op
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41j0viOphew
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>>131652954
Germany YES, and here I come.
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>>131652954
Fucking Krauts seriously. How low are you going to steep? When will you stop?
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>>131653857
Muh sides
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>>131653595
It's Germany, it might just work. But I'm thinking we will see some very big differences in behavior.
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>>131652954
capitalism's last resort to keep the herd tamed
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Fuck yeah, finally I will be able to tattoo all my body ,become transabled, transracial and get a 12 years old boyfriend as I don't need to get a job anymore.

No more boss and peers to judge me, no more social interaction with bigots while I get their money, fuck them.

Thanks government for making my lifestyle possible and letting me be my true self.
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By the way, have you guys heard about this party that just promised to increase the UBI to 6000€/month? Isn't that sweet?
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>>131655252
hitler would be pro ubb and would support wages that you can live on. even nixon was pro ubi...
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>>131655237
>capitalism's last resort to keep the herd tamed
There is still legalizing drug use and prostitution; then you can make them gibs.
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>>131654311
>it is not unconditional and destroys any intentions to work. give them a little bit less without conditions and they will work for a little bit extra.

>they will work

yes they will work jobs that don't get the sate any taxes, they sure a productive for society.

UBI is nothing more than fucking wealth distribution. This makes the ancap meme TAXATION IS THEFT real.
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>>131652954
This is what the globalist kikes want.

globalism and complete control over the populace so you will be completely eating out of their hands.
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>businesses automate everything which causes redundancies
>tax automated systems
>use the money for universal income

What's the problem?

How else do we move to the eventual goal of robots doing all the menial jobs and people being free to either not work or work in jobs they only want to do?

Isn't that an end game for our species?
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>>131653495
>>131653144
Sophie according to google.
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>>131652954
GERMANY

Y E S
E
S

UNIVERSAL INCOME FOR ALL REFUGEES

ABDULLAH CAN NOW SPEND HIS ENTIRE DAY BREEDING YOUR WOMEN WHILE YOUR TAXES PAY FOR HIS INCOME
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>>131655513
>Implying Hitler would be fine with giving desert people money for free
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>>131652954
>be Germany
>try to lead the EU
>only viable thing about the country is the economy
>constantly use their wealth to blackmail other EU nations
>import 244 million refugees
>spend it all housing and financing them

You had one job Merkel, now you've fucked it completely.
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>>131655513
Only if you contribute 100% to the state.
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>>131655891

The final chapter of Germany will be the last small band of Germans making their last stand and begging for a complete German wide nuclear strike from the USA and Russia
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>>131655692

They want to end self-dependence (aka, INDEPENDENCE) of society and create a slave caste of social consumer animals.
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>>131656100
How is what you said different from the UK?
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>>131655692
I always wanted to try myself on beekeeping.

Rant all you want. I'll just keep to my bees then and produce some nice beverages out of it.
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>>131652954
Spoiler: it won't. SH is almost as shitty as NRW or Berlin.

They also want to vote about gay marriage this Friday and don't realize that people will be pissed if they vote for it.
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>>131653821
You actually think you will control the robots? You don't own them. They belong to the rich and you are dependent on their handouts.
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>>131655601
im against ubi and pro ubb, but i dont see any future without it. it will be either revolution or ubi/ubb. 40% jobs or more will be cut by 2030.
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>>131656070
give them the bare minimum and they fuck off. ubi for germans. non germans can straight fuck off.
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>>131656219
Because those 244 million refugees that'll be residing in the EU will remain in the EU, you can finance it now but in 10-20 years you won;t be able to.
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>>131652954
Automation of jobs is happening and with this it's inevitable that we will no longer need to work to survive anymore.
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>>131655513
Hitler was all for those AFTER kicking out everyone who didn't love their country.

UBI only works in a white homogeneous society. No one else works for their community.
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>>131655513
There's a difference between closed borders UBI and socialism and open border UBI socialism, the very few left leaning economists say that socialism can't work with open borders, all communist states had closed borders, Sweden 2 years after the refugee crisis starts to lose its welfare state, I'd totally be a lefty if it wasn't for the fact that all leftist are pro immigration, how stupid can you fucking be when open borders are against your entire fucking ideology, I became a capitalist pig just because I want the world to not get to shit, but after we deal with niggers I want socialism.
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>>131653156
Dat pic.

Fuck.
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>>131652954
Nordic countries have had universal income for ages.
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>>131656532
Arabs ARE Germans, your government says so every day.
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>>131656742
This pretty much. Mexicans and Indians in the US at least work here. Those Rapefugees are going to make Europe into a 3rd world shithole eventually.
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>>131652954
WTF I'M A REFUGEE NOW!
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>>131656210
This will be the future of Europe.

1. Import a gorillion "refugees" who have no skills and no hope of ever integrating as a productive part of society
2. Give them UBI so they can live a slightly better life than they are used to so they are kept docile and obedient
3. End up with a huge block of voters who will always be in favor of big government and daddy state
4. Use that big block to silence and marginalize any dissent among the native population all through "democratic" voting
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>give everyone gibs
>They stop working
>Government can't give gibs anymore
>Society collapses

Perfect
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>>131652954
What exactly happened to "we have to lower pensions and raise the age-gap for pensioneers because there's no money for it"? Was this just another way to target the german population exlusively?
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>>131656769
i agree with you. the main problem are the globalists and their pets that invade europe.
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>>131652954
I guess I'm moving to Germany now
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Can a german answer this. Is your government run by jews trying to destroy your country? Because with every step its going down the toilet. Was in Kassel last week and holy shitballs its all arabs and africans. Was on a street where me and my friends were the only white people, didn't even hear anyone speaking german.
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>>131656824
wait a few years and there will be a race war. even legal immigrants are pissed as fuck in bavaria only cities like berlin are virtue signaling.
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>>131653292
Dont you have to be dark skinned?
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>>131656769
I agree with your statement as well. It's basically overloading the box full pets and expecting to be able to pay for them. It's not economically feesable.
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>>131652954
the problem with testing basic income is twofold

the first is that you cannot test economics effectively

practically speaking though, the long term effects of a particular economic idea wouldn't manifest themselves quick enough for programs like this to be properly tested
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>>131652954
>it's fucking nothing
They want to discuss it. They discuss this simce decades around the world. Stop spreading fakr news OP
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>>131653857
KEK. what is this?
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>>131657199
>Can a german answer this. Is your government run by jews trying to destroy your country?
Yes, isn't it obvious by now?
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>>131657418
ubi is not sustainable with open borders but universal basic benefits would be cheaper than welfare and more efficient accoridng to the ubi studies in finland, india and usa.
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>>131652954
>WTF ITS FUCKING HAPPENING
Elections.
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>>131657199
If anything it's ours (anglos) and Russian's fault.

We have modelled them to be the perfect cucks since losing WW2, all their adults in Merkel's age range grew up with British, American and Russian soldiers everywhere telling them what to do and say.

That event where Merkel tour down the flag someone was waving goes to show, it's not necessarily jews but the product of a country with zero nationalism.
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>>131657199
The majority of today's European politicians were indoctrinated completely in the neomarxim and critical theory of the Frankfurt School. Either directly or indirectly.

Many of them unironically believe that white Europeans are despicable and vile oppressors, that everything wrong in the world is because of the white man and that the world will be better off if white people didn't exist.

White genocide isn't a meme. It's real and it's a direct result of 50 years of higher education being completely controlled by neomarxists, who reframed the power struggle not between the bourgeois and the proletariat, but between the oppressors (white people) and the oppressed (POC)
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>they still believe in the illusion of work necessity

Gibs for everywun when
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>>131656769
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>>131656953
>End up with a huge block of voters who will always be in favor of big government and daddy state

>money runs out in less than 10 years
>south africa x.0 happening
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>>131652954

Great, that means financial collapse in three months
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>>131657604
>according to the ubi studies
not a long enough period of time and no critical mass application to real markets
>would be cheaper
until you realize it will never "replace" other forms of welfare. This is also merely short term consideration. Long term I would dispute it being anything but inflationary

the other problem/truth I've come to believe is that we will have ubi eventually anyway, so debating it is meaningless as it will be commonly accepted because it met the hurdle of not destroying everything so people will think it "worked"

the arguments will mirror those around minimum wage in the future
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Holy shit, if this is true, i would quit my fucking Job, buy a farm an live a life of my own
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>>131657810
Yeah because the Chicago School cucks have done so well over the past decade in running the Economy.
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we have already tried this, it called every single failed socialist/communist state.

America is going to boom with these dumb communist.
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>>131652954
how can i get in on the Shekels? can i move there? german citizen here btw
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>>131656653

Bullshit, it'll just drive down the cost of living and move jobs towards more intellectual persuits.
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>>131658209
you're even more retarded rhan the average burger if you think the USSR, China or Latin America had UBI
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>>131652954
Fug I want to move to Germany now :DD
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>>131658085
>buy a farm
When everyone can afford the farm, the price goes up to accommodate demand. No one will be able to afford land, only outsiders and the government.

You will live in an apartment block like everyone else. Welcome to communism, enjoy your mandatory stay.
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>>131656207
>*static* Americans we iz done, they surround us like night*static*(indistinguishable speech in arabic)
>Americans do it! drop it! danger close danger close!
>Jerry4 confirm danger close, danger close confirm
>JA JA drop it! *static*(gunfire) we see you in Valhalla

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>>131657604

>communism works better than communism

Communism doesn't work, 250+ million dead weren't enough of a hint for you?
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>>131658060
The problem is automation. Jobs are going to be wiped out in 10-15 years thanks to

>Self driving vehicles
>Delivery Drones
>A.I computers
>Machines that take your order and make the food and drinks for you

That is going to wipe out more than 80% of jobs available. UBI is going to be our income and we will just be paid to live.
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>>131658544
you can make the same argument about Christianity
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RIP Euro citizens. Your fucking elder years in comfort are now fucking gone while the liberal politicians spend the tax money. Now your children get to live in fear, abuse, and poor as fuck. Surprised those who are angry sit idle.
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>>131658565

No, 80% of people are going to have to select for intelligence and actually study for a change.
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>>131658618
Christian nations are the richest in the world.
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>>131654331

fuck off we're VOLL
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>>131658768
Mexico, Nigeria, Poland?
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>>131658565
>paid
>to live
No one will give you a handout. You will be killed off.
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>>131653156
what
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>>131658565
I would dispute that

people are making money on more and more frivolous things as the cost of living has gone down and disposable income, or the illusion of disposable income has gone up

replacing employees will result in rock bottom cost of living, which would require rock bottom minimum necessity for living

aka equivalents of streaming culture or the gig economy expanding

that said, we'll never see those effects (or lack thereof) because democrats will win election in 2022 and 2024 on whatever their version of ubi is
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>>131658618

How the fuck is christianity a form of government? Are you retarded? Personal property is the reason we have a civilization in the first place.
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>>131658844
UK, Germany, US, France
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>>131658565
>80%
I don't know where you got that number but I think you're way to optimistic about AI and automation and far to pessimistic about your fellow man.
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>>131658759
Then tell me what jobs will be available to those that do not have the skills or the IQ to perform them?
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>>131658565
oh yea, also population decline worldwide will facilitate less competition for said jobs

and before you point out [niggers], you should realize that once a country hits some sort of critical mass of wealth, their population starts to decline

if you don't think automation will facilitate massive increases in wealth around the world and pulling virtually everybody out of poverty you haven't been paying attention
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Does this mean we'll be seeing more German NEETs shitposting here in the future?
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>>131658918
Separation of church and state is a very very recent thing
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You'd have to be a corporate shill to be against universal income

In an automated and AIB world where 95% of jobs can be automated universal income is the only option to prevent the 1% from keeping all the robot wealth from the rest of us.
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>EU
>in 2017
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>>131652954
if we convince our pakis to leave now lads they may be just in time to get free money before we're stuck with 'em until the crusades
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>>131659169
This desu. All the Europeans are waxing on about the future of their civilization and the real question is what civilization in the future?
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>>131659169
this is like, military force removing whole corrupt fucks bloodlines type of destruction happening in europe
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>>131659008

Cleaning, gardening, waiting tables etc etc etc

Anything that saves people who can earn more money time, like it has always been
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>>131656957
>fucking Greece all over again
Don't worry. Out the ashes will rise a new nation that would make the 3rd Reich shit it's pants
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>>131659147
you don't need to be a neet to get ubi. that's the whole point of it. you can already be a neet in Germany but if you want to work or study, you lose your neetbux immediately
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>>131652954
>Germans literally can't stop destroying their own country
Please do this lol
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>>131659158

So fucking what, are you stupid? I asked you a simple question, to explain your comparison of communism and christianity.
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>>131657199
>Was in Kassel last week and holy shitballs its all arabs and africans. Was on a street where me and my friends were the only white people, didn't even hear anyone speaking german.
I'm regularly in Kassel. Can confirm.
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>>131653292
Yes, all you have to do is sell off any property and use all savings you have and completely expose yourself so they can see that you really REALLY don't have any funds or income.
And after they grant you Harz4, you only have to constantly prove that you are trying to find work and, talk with some guy who hates you when they summon you every 6 weeks and particpate in their Arbeitsbeschaffungsmaßnahmen or they will hit you with sanctions to your meager $400.

It's totally not degrading.
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>>131659459
You are a clinical retard. The Church was an integral part of Western governments for centuries.
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>>131659525

So just liquidize your assets and hide them
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>>131654000
Yes, having a living standard above 800€-1000€ before rent/food/insurance.
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>>131659610

That's not a comparison, you mouthbreeding mommy's drunk mistake
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>>131659525
>Arbeitsbeschaffungsmaßnahmen
The German language has so many gems.
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>>131658911
I agree this will most likely be the first phase of everything is streaming services and less hours maybe part time will be full time work.
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>>131652954
Are you sure its universal or only for tanned Germans?
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>>131656769

Same here my guy.

You can't have socialism of any kind without a healthy national economy and a national pride that encourages people to contribute to that state to provide the social welfare. Socialism is based upon the principle that you are taking care of your distant relatives, the fellows of your nation. The French are all distant relatives of other Frenchmen, so they take care of each other, but French taking care of Algerians doesn't work, because the point is to have the nation care for its own, not for others.
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>>131659808
Nice projection but it's always a fascist tard who can't seem to help but be a mouthbreather. Also, great argument you're making.
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>>131659974

You say communism is like christianity and I asked how they are alike.
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>>131658369
>you're even more retarded rhan the average burger if you think the USSR.

actually it was, they payed all their workers the same, from the shitter cleaner to the top surgeon (at least in the propaganda). Thats the "end goal" of UBI, people will work altruistic and be just happy that they get supplied "enough".
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>>131659827
I like to think about it this way

the current ~5 day work week would be literally impossible at any other period in history

it is because of technological force multipliers that we can reduce the workforce and hours

something like automation would only multiply that effect into infinity

if we could function as a society before income taxation on mostly charity, surely when charity becomes essentially free, people will have no qualms whatsoever donating

>put a quarter in the donation box at mcdonalds3000
>feed a city for a day
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>>131652954
They just think about it. There are massive interests against it. Furthermore I'd prefer doing a negative income tax instead
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>>131659642
They want a complete record of all your finances and assets for at least a few years back and they will keep requesting documents until they are completely statisfied in confirming that you are a poorfag requiering welfare.
Most people that actually need this money probably don't have the time to sell off their stuff and hide it.

The real kicker is that "refugees" don't even need to prove which country they were born in or how old they are and the same welfare is granted to them no questions asked and even in advance.
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>>131660444
>(((german))) wants to discourage saving
checks out
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>>131652954

Hitler > Merkel
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>>131660454
>>They want a complete record of all your finances and assets for at least a few years back and they will keep requesting documents until they are completely statisfied in confirming that you are a poorfag requiering welfare.
Jesus christ, here they are "simply" asking for documents of the last three months, and they did not give a shit about me liquidizing my assets and hiding them.
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>>131660454
Yes basically this is just a coverup for diverting more public money to rapefugees

The amount of native Germans who will be eligible for this, or even want it, is miniscule. Almost all of it will go to Ahmed and Jamal.
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>>131660312
I agree even the millionaires at Silicon Valley had a talk about that being the case where you had UBI and you also worked part time for 3 days out of the week if you wanted more money. There is also rumors UBI might replace Social Security but that remains to be seen.
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>>131660796
Also forgot to mention that Schleswig is Danish clay, give it back you filthy Germans.
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>>131653156
This. What's the point. You're just funding your own replacement.
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>>131653156
>more taxes for Hans
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>>131660454

Of course, it's white genocide.
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>>131659974

For the record, hou are claiming that living in northern europe, north america or lebanon was as bad as living in north korea, venezuela, cuba or the soviet union.
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>>131660796
To the state there is literally no worse crime than trying to cheat the tax office. Rape a kid? Kill a man? Sure, go ahead.. but don't you dare try to keep a Euro of your income untaxed or leech benefits - unless you aren't German, of course.
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>>131661013
any talk of replacing things will come from a compromise from spineless republicans and will be ignored by democrats, who will have the upper hand politically

other forms of welfare will remain intact, or in any case would be reintroduced eventually anyway for the same reasons it was introduced in the first place
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>>131659525
>It's totally not degrading.
Not for Niggers my friend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3fUSIoFla0
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>>131661043
Just as planned
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>>131658401
This.
Germany will turn in a country full of commie blocks, with a few rural enclaves with dachas for the elite.
Go ahead, try communism one more time.
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>>131652954
>>131652954
>see thread about what Germany needs to fix
>make flag saying "make ubi system for Germans"

What the fuck did I just do
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How can people be so stupid it is like politicians are shitworking.
Ideocrisy is now.
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>>131652954
i need to move to germoney and slack
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>>131659525
>It's totally not degrading.

Its not degrading for niggers that arrive with zero property (except the iphones, ipads, gold chains, rayban sunglasses they just hide) and have nothing to hide (except for those rape cases and terrorist affiliations they just pretend never happend) and zero outlook and qualifications for a job
and a background where this situation would make them the by far richest guy in their nigger village.

Its a massive upgrade paid by usefull humans.
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>>131661525
I think a main reason those things are not done yet is simply the laziness of politicians. Because it requires a reform of taxes and welfare. And as everyone can see those things don't happen often and most of the time polioticians just place new laws on top of old ones. They simply go the path of least resistance.
UBI and NIT are a lot of work
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>>131654558
>I'm really pale
no
only blacks, spics and other beautiful PoC accepted
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>>131662399
Found the nigger
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>>131661960
Is that bread kosher?
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>>131661031
>What's the point. You're just funding your own replacement.
Literally the replacement

You think we are against that?
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>>131652954
>file deleted
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>>131652954
You don't think this could work in our favour?

It's like a redistribution mechanism for the Volksgemeinschaft. It would pretty much instill the question in everyone "Why are the fruits of German labour given to Kanaken, Negros and other volksfremde Elemente?".
It's a bit like national socialism without calling it like that and to keep it afloat we would have to have VERY strict rules who's eligible to it. I could see it become a path to the völkischen ideology.
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>>131662465
>it's just laziness
very naive my friend
>campaign for reform
>get destroyed by leeches
>people who want reform don't care about it as much as the leeches
it's called rent seeking
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>>131653156
please tell me this is exaggerated or a mistake
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>>131663106
It's not much but they grow their kids on bread, water and petty theft
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>>131662330
Bumping my own post
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>>131653747
DESIGNATED
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>>131662703
hah die faster faggot
white pride nigger wide
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Only works in a homogene and stable society with high tech and automatically working economy

I would seriously support this commie stuff but we are far behind technology possibilities, importing stupid niggers and the moment we replace workforce with machines left idiots are crying about robot's destroying jobs

Beside that it's not working with humans because we always want to be better and richer than other persons, it's the new survival of the fittest
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>>131663420
White pride can surive. Just not Germans

Think of it as cleaning the white genepool.
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>>131662431
But they don't even have to go through the same bullshit german citizens do.
They get the money pretty much no questions asked and the only requirement is that they maybe need to take (but not finish, no attendence lists) german classes.

It's a complete joke.
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>>131654558
>Okay so Germans might not want to be working now.
Mate, Germans like working as much as you like shitting into designated streets.

There was a survey in several countries about what people fear the most when they grow old and the answers in Italy was they would fear to become ugly and lose status, in Brazil they were afraid of losing sexual potency, in the US it was fear of being poor and being at the sidelines of society.
In Germany people feared they couldn't work anymore.
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>>131652954

Chrome has auto translate
Use it

The new government coalition in Schleswig-Holstein wants to deal with the basic income. This finally brings us into the discussion movement. For a basic income is unavoidable if we want to solve the social problems.

Thanks anon top kek
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>>131654311
>get a little extra

Extra tax on your earned money to feed the slums
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It will probably work because this is small scale and things tend to work small scale.

So it will be hilarious when this gets adopted country wide and it completely fails.
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>>131663992

It will result in a massive national debt, stop paying taxes
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>>131653292

If universal basic income is $400 per week, and all refugees qualify for it, which they will, the 1.2 million you took in will cost you a minimum of 24 billion per year in welfare.
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>>131663992
Not even close dude
Having a successful economy is about hard work and great knowledge which we don't have anymore
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>>131660177
That's not how UBI works, UBI is €1000 that EVERYONE gets, the idea is that if you get welfare there's no point in working if you'd get just €100 more that if you wouldn't, with UBI you'd get €1100 more, thus making people more motivated to work, a medic will still make way more than a garbage man, but the garbage man will also afford other things besides food and rent, it worked in Finland, but Finland is homogeneous, it won't work in Germany.
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>>131664432
>it worked in finland
there is no basis for this claim whatsoever
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>>131664432
UBI in leftard heads is in the end about MUH EQUALITY and solving the problems of the society

Like how can u expect for dumb people to get less paid LMAO
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well shit
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Explain to me how UBI doesn't lead to hyper inflation
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>>131664744
With automation it will be needed if you don't want revolts
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>>131652954
>File deleted

ITS FUCKING HAPPENING
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>>131653156
That would be all cut down. This is the only way to finance this. I bet Ahmeds gets less than today.

>>131653292
And what then? Would you go to work 40+ hrs to earn like 70% of H4 ? But you would if you get 500€ flat and can earn something on top. Or you dont, thats the point. But this people wouldnt work anyways.

>>131653361
It is your freedom then. You have a bit money to survive and do whatever you want. I would bet my ass 90% of working people still would work to have higher standard.
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>>131664823
If it's done properly like those "labor" cards that can only give you shelter and buy low quality food it won't lead to inflation.
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>>131665266
I dont think theres any indication its going to be like that
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>>131659165

why the hell would "corporate shills" care about ubi? if anything, they'd support it, more government leads to more dependents and more complacency, and bigger government, allowing the corporations to essentially collude with the government itself. it's also an excuse for them also to just completely automate and not actually bring jobs into communities.

this isn't the 1900s anymore; corporations are no longer the voices for MUH LOWER GOVERNMENT, they support the state completely knowing the government will essentially shill for them
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>>131665019
Yea and automation is also they key for the "demographic change" but then u rather import niggers and complain why they don't have a job so u brag about why they dont have enough money and force UBI but it doesnt work because everyone would live close to death and taxes will crush your economy and u don't have the automation to do the work anyways because u spent all on social benefits and not on investments on which profits you would pay 95% tax but at least everyone is equal

Fuck this shit country
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Finally, Germany is about doing an hero. Arm yourself and shot at everything slightly brown.
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>>131665377
>If it's done properly
Germany will fail horribly for sure, if it was national socialism however it would work. But obviously it won't be that because Germans are cucks.
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Ffs I'm going to Regensburg in a few days.
Will spent whole summer there.
It better not be shitted with mosques and niggers, you fucking spineless cucks.
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Its not something you can test in one locale and then roll out nationwide and expect the same results...Are Germans actually fuckn retarded?
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>>131652954
This might have actually worked if they did it while they were still white.
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>>131665984
>It better not be shitted with mosques and niggers
Its in Germany. We are past 1960

What the fuck are you expecting?
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>>131665019

that's why there will be a new global war soon. (religious based)

cull the herd and give people a job to do at the same time
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>>131666132
I expected Bavarians to be not as cucked as the north faggots.
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>>131665783
you use corporations as if the vast majority aren't supermassive
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>>131666279
Who has more money? Where do the refugees always go?
Seriously Germany as a whole is fucked.
Anyone saying "but the east" "but bavaria" "but this part" is full of shit
The entirety of Germany is far beyond repair for over 50 years now.
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>>131666279
Just avoid big cities and try not to think about the money you waste on sandniggers, Africa, UNO, Greece, Spain and what not
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>>131664719
Google Finland UBI tests results, people that were unemployed for years found jobs in weeks.
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I think you don't understand the concept - 1000 euro yes, but no social welfare anymore - so you will end up with less money, because you've got to pay everything from those 1000 euros.
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>>131653857
Oh, if only Muslims and Jews did their jobs.
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>>131652954
How to destroy a Country/Region:
1. Add nigger refugees
2. Give them free housing, food, and money
3. Wait for implosion, social unrest, and complete chaotic anarchy

Pass the popcorn. This is gonna be good.
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>>131666724
Brause everyone that worked for years was like fuck that shit why should I still do that and quitted
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>>131666937
1000 deducted from your income and the rest is taxed by 70% and more if they see fit. you understand the concept?
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>>131666307

what? how so? of course when I refer to government collusion I think of these big corporations as super-massive entitites.
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>>131666937
what will happen to the immigrants with 10 kids, 4 relatives claming disability and a rent bill of 3,000 euros.
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>>131666428

what's the distribution of refugees in germany? are there more in the south (BW, Bavaria) or in the North (Brandenburg, SH)? I'd hate if it was more in the South, since they're the only good part of Germany.
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>>131667419
They are everywhere. They are the youth.

Maybe the south can become part of Austria.
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>>131666937
And what happens when you spend it all carelessly and you are still without food and shelter??? Will Germany let you starve or will you get more gibs?
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>>131667087
>State gives €600 welfare
>Minimum wage is €650
Why would you get a job in the current system?
>State gives you UBI €600
>Minimum wage is another €600 thrown in
Now that's 1200€, people will want to work, €600 gets you rent and food, with another €600 from the job you get to buy more shit so you'll want to keep buying this shit, living in a small apartment with fast food is a shit life
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>>131667581
How brown are you?
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>>131667885
Just answer the question faggot
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>>131652954
Gotta love all these shitposts about "m-muh gibmedats" in this thread, while I am suspect of the real motives of this endeavor, I am eager to see how it will work with regards to automation and the economy.
It might be necessary for our species to not only survive such societal changes, but thrive. Its certainly far more favorable then the elite just going full retard and trying to wipe out everyone they see as useless
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>>131666724
But finland is not Germanistan...people won't work here.
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>>131667987
It depends on how brown you are if you get gibs. If you are white and christian you will get nothing. The browner you are the more money you get.
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>>131652954

> We need 10 milion immigrants or the economy will colapse
> We need UBI because automation

I'm the only one missing something here?
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>>131664432

In finland the experiment collapsed almost immediately due to the ridiculous costs involved
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>>131669110
2000 people getting 500€ a month is ridiculously expensive?
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>>131668273

No, it's all to create debt and eradicate whites
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>>131669358

Yes, because single men don't need much to live off.
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>>131669430
>eradicate whites
**eradicate Germans

Whites will survive this. Don't worry.
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>>131670071
>Whites will survive this.
No they will not.
All whites countries will be the new brazil.
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>>131670596
Why would that happen? Why would our suicide drag the other whites with us?
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>>131653156
Pay debnts
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>>131670694

Taxation and the eu army
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>>131652954
I had to switch, to German (meh). Basically the same propaganda we see everywhere popping up. Get ready for temporary uptake of the economy, followed by hyperinflation and misery.
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>>131667335
100% they would have less than now
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>>131667688
this
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>>131659525
It only fucks you over if you're a native German.
If you're a mud or something else, you can pretty much live like a king.
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>>131652954

>basic income after inviting millions upon millions of zero skilled migrants in

Germany is dead
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>>131658565
but we need to import unlimited low/unskilled niggers and shitskins to do all those jobs because no one wants to do them anymore
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>>131674986
You are more than five decades too late. But nice to see everyone realize this at least.
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>>131652954
>WTF ITS FUCKING HAPPENING
A ploy to make the people even more dependent on the state is what's happening.
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>>131656459
new jobs will be created,
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ok to all of you hans out there fucking get as much gibs as possible to crash the system
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>>131667335
What if you only gave it to native citizens and put all the niggers on stamps + 200€ for whatever the fuck else they need?
Why these give these refugees cash money when all they do with it is buy drugs and send it back into their shithole home countries is beyond me anyhow.
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